Re: herbie (was: Re: (idm) the early 80's in new york)

From solenoid
Sent Mon, Jul 5th 1999, 18:29

On Mon, 5 Jul 1999, eric hill wrote:

> >>hancock's future shock is the shit too. anyone recommend any other hancock 
> >>in this vein? this is about all i have...
> >
> >Herbie's best moments IMO are the "Headhunters" (73) and the "Thrust" (74)
> >albums. Totally doped up electronic funky stuff -- both amazing.

There are also a coule albums by the Headhunters, apparently the backup
musicians from this time... I've seen one reissued, any opinions here?
Looks like vocals are evident (yikes!)

> in addition to these seminal herbie-fusion albums, the original poster is
> no doubt looking for herbie's collaborations with bill laswell, of which
> "future shock" was the first. they collaborated several times throughout
> the 80's, but the most emblematic of the "future shock" sound were two
> more herbie hancock albums: "sound-system" (84) and "perfect machine"
> (88). this is a lot of quite-similar material to stock up on, especially
> if your ears are as weary as mine are of vintage ledernacken drum machines


> (as well as d.st.'s scratching never having progressed much after
> "rockit"), but "perfect machine" might be worth tracking down for a nice

dst was also on some other Celluloid-label projects.  he was ok in his day

> dj's secret weapon called "maiden voyage/p. bop." as far as interesting
> electro-type tracks go though, you're really just searching out one track
> per album (two in the case of "future shock" if, like me, you dig

Yes, I guess there is one good track per ep/lp.  I found "perfect machine"
a little uninspired.  that is, one could easily save the $ for a rustier
gem like "autodrive" (that is theone I meant by "chameleon/whatever", the
GREEN one!!).  

I only recommend the "Metal Beat" 12" because it has samples of Yes "Leave
It" from the same year and a good funk/industrial sound that is fun...

Above all, avoid the "Magic Hands" or whatever that one just before Future
Shock is... ugh!  HH did some dull funk-pop stuff right before and after
Future Shock not for the weak or easily annoyed...

> "autodrive"). for the truly masochistic, the "freakazoid" 12" and a
> maurice starr (i think called "electric drummer") single both have
> "rockit" bites _not_ by herbie himself.
> 
> eric
> 


> onnow: lilienthal : castor & pollux (emanate)

Sheesh when am I gonna get one? !!