Re: [AH] Capturing / Digitizing Video Synthesizers (PAL/NTSC)

From Alexander Smith
Sent Tue, Jun 18th 2019, 01:13

Both look great- but does anything record in a format other than h264? Be gr=
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> On 18 Jun 2019, at 11:05, David Messenger <xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
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> I think the Hauppage stuff should work:
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> https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/925432-REG/hauppauge_1512_hd_pvr_2_=
video.html
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> D/
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>> On 6/17/2019 6:50 PM, Kenny Balys wrote:
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>> Hi Ben,
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>> I had plenty of feedback offline.
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>> Basically, most of the cheapo converters available now take both
>> PAL and NTSC down to 640x480 which is rubbish.
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>> All of the BlackMagic boxes require a very sync'd and stable video
>> feed so useless for most people, wonderful for a few. You need
>> something called a "Time Base Corrector" rack to generate the
>> stable video feed. This, in my mind, is rather silly. We are living
>> in the future now and a decent piece of code should be able to
>> handle what ever crufty video is thrown at their stuff. But no.
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>> If you are using NTSC you can use a Sony Digital-8 camera as a video
>> input/digitizer and then output via FireWire to the 2003 iMac that
>> just everyone has kicking around.
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>> For PAL video, none of the Euro released cameras will act as a video
>> input. This was for copyright reasons if I understand correctly.
>> The excitement and frenzy around the very few PAL Digital-8 recorder
>> decks that come up for sale fully illustrates this.
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>> A really fine solution suggested to me was a dedicated solid state
>> video recorder box from Japan: (thanks to Suit&Tie)
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>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/HDMI-Video-Game-Capture-Recorder-1080p-60fps-Liv=
e-Streaming-Device-TMREC-FHD-F-S/202704704583=20
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>> This seemed a little rich for me so I ordered an El-Cheapo clone
>> from China: (not confirmed to work yet)
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>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/VHS-Camcorder-Hi8-Tape-Converter-Audio-Video-Cap=
ture-8G-MP3-Player-AV-Recorder/202678960641?ssPageName=3DSTRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&=
_trksid=3Dp2060353.m2749.l2649=20
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>> It claims to support full resolution NTSC and PAL. I guess I will see.
>> If not, then I will have to step and get the Japanese unit.
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>> In the event that this thing works, then I will have a little solid state=

>> recorder that I can hang off my modular rack.
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>> Fingers crossed, will report back here if its good.
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>>> On 18.06.19 24:19 , Ben Bridges wrote:
>>> I am also keen on some kind of converter to get analogue video into my c=
omputer
>>> from the RCA out on my VHS or video sytnths.
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>>> I bought a USB capture device under the name EasyCap but it didn't work a=
t all.
>>> If there is a solution available I would like to know.
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>>> Cheers
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>>> Ben
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>>>> On 15/6/2019 10:37 AM, Kenny Balys wrote:
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>>>> What are you using to capture PAL video synth sessions?
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>>>> Many of us here are now using Eurorack and other format video synthesiz=
ers.
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>>>> I would like to see how people are capturing this video.
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>>>> Currently I have two different systems. One is PAL video. The other NTS=
C.
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>>>> For NTSC, capturing is easy. I have a Sony Mini-DV camera that can act
>>>> as a capture / digitizer. This then can be sent to a computer with
>>>> a FireWire link.
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>>>> Sadly, because of European copyright rules, all DV cameras in Europe ha=
ve
>>>> the video capture / digitize function disabled. So no such solution for=
 PAL.
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>>>> I purchased a BlackMagic "Intensity Shuttle" to capture PAL video but
>>>> it is utter rubbish. This device (and all BlackMagic devices I am told)=

>>>> will not capture anything but the most perfect and conditioned TBC'd
>>>> video. Nowhere on the box does it mention this.
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>>>> The entire point of analogue video synthesis is to push the envelope an=
d
>>>> boundaries of video. This will never equal time base corrected video.
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>>>> So the BlackMagic Intensity Shuttle is a useless brick.
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>>>> If anyone on the list is capturing PAL video synth sessions, I would lo=
ve
>>>> to hear what you are using.
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>>>> PS: Hope this is not too OT.
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