Re: (idm) phthalo prices

From 9-5SuperSpy
Sent Tue, Mar 23rd 1999, 06:07

I agree with brock. There's no reason anyone should be charging more than
$5 for a CD-r when they won't play on all CD players and the emulsion
deteriorates after a few years rendering them unplayable. (anyone know
exactly how long? 5-10 years?)

I've always through that CD-r's would help level the playing feild for
amateur musicians, but not this way. A full CD-R with color copies runs
around $3, as opposed to about $1.50 for real CD's in a quantity of 1000.
This opens up a great opportunity for artists to sell high quality demos
that can play in most CD players made in the last few years direct to fans
and send them to labels, radio stations, promoters, media, etc. (Much like
brock and company did with the "2 Silver Boxes vs. Ultrawide" CD, very
good btw) They're also great for trading live recordings (please don't
ask me, I won't copy anything for you), early demos, copies of
rediculously overpriced limited edition idm releases, out of print
releases as well as saving money on software, photo cd's, and playstation
games..

I bought the first two phthalo CD-r releases when they were limited to 50
copies, but at $12 and $17 for a CD-r with no artwork at higher quantities
I just don't see the point anymore. I tend to think of CD-R's as a
cassette copy, a cheap alternative to the real thing and I'm not about to
pay more than the real thing for a shoddy replacement.

Frankly, I don't understand why an artist would bother with a CD-r label 
when any artist can buy a CD burner for $300 and do it themselves. At
least Underscore has some really cool packaging that looks like a big
matchbook, but underneath all that it's still not the real thing, and it
still wont play on all CD-players.

np: the history channel.

Brock Suter <xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:

> One night after Space Disco for Fish Tacos, we went out to taco mesa for
> the standard fare, and I remember a fellow IDM lister going out to the
> parking lot with Dimitri to buy a phthalo cd.
>
> The person came back shaking his head, surprised at the astronomical
> amount Dimitri demanded for the artwork less CDR he had just sold him
> 'out of his trunk'.
>
> Just about everyone I know who makes CDR's (myself included) give them
> away, because that's what they're for, distributing music in small
> numbers to people who are enthusiastic about said music.  
>
> If you're going to sell something, do it right.  
> 
> I.E.:  Professional duplication, artwork, etc.
>
> Charging an arm and a leg for a CDR is just plain greedy.
>
> brock.

-Daniel
xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx

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