(idm) Re: ACR (was: "Re: whats up with schematic and MAS")

From Greg Earle
Sent Mon, Feb 15th 1999, 02:37

>> because they are completely valid.  Bands like Crispy Ambulance, Section 25
>> and ACR had their own sound, however similar it was to Joy Division it was
>> still an interesting take on the whole thing,  In many respects I find
>> ACR's Too Each... a far better record than Unknown Pleasures.  And at this
> 
> I agree, "Too Each..." is far more musically interesting.

*gag*  *splutter*  *choke*  *Pepsi spew*

<pissing contest>

Feh ... I thought "To Each..." was weak compared to ACR's really radical
early material like the "The Graveyard and The Ballroom" cassette or "Shack Up"
or the 12"'s like "Do The Du" and "Blown Away" ... and certainly not in a
league with "Unknown Pleasures" or "Closer" ... IMHO of course, given that
those are my other 2 of my top 3 albums of all time, I'll defend them
vigorously ...

Not like I agree with this 100%, but the "Trouser Press Record Guide" said

"   The studied tedium of ``To Each...'' however, nullified the early promise,
as the band buried itself in dreary rhythms and astonishing self-indulgence.
Leader Simon Topping - he of the free-form trumpet that stamped songs like
``The Fox'' (here on a subdued re-make from ``Do The Du'') - evidently
believed that A Certain Ratio would fill the gap left by Joy Division.
Unfortunately, while Joy Division was at least lyrical in its despair,
A Certain Ratio is merely monotonous."

Ouch  :-)

</pissing contest>

The thing about "To Each..." is that ACR went to New Jersey to record it
in the same studio New Order used to record a bunch of stuff in 1981 for
"Movement" ("We've found a dead cheap studio - $55/hour!" - Rob Gretton).
Between that and also using Martin Hannett, they were bound to suffer in
comparison ...

Oh, and about those Gang of Four Rykodisc issues - werd.  I think it's
interesting how movements/sub-genres tend to have 1-2 year "golden periods".
Punk from 1976-1977, Post-Punk from 1979-1980, IDM from 1993-1994.  Discuss  :D

ObIDM: Um, Funkstoerung live in Miami during WMC, with Andrea Parker DJ'ing
       along with Stacey Pullen, DJ SS w/ MC Warren G. and Stakka & Skynet ...
       all at one party!  woot!@!@!  So who's coming?  :-)

        - Greg