From ninphil Sent Tue, Sep 29th 1998, 20:39
From ninphil Sent Tue, Sep 29th 1998, 20:39
> > I look at a band like Laika as an example: they had a ten peice band >when I saw them and it was one of the best live shows I'd ever heard. Amon >Tobin could hire a real fucking band to reproduce his electronic >compositions and my bet is that it would sound fucking amazing. If he's just >going to spin records, then for god's sake charge five bucks and drop the >hype. Ok..here's our defense...at least in regards to Amon Tobin who has, in my opinion a uniquely interesting and honest way of looking at presenting his music. he argues that his music is music made from "found" music. he works with samples and constructs them as noted to orchestrate a "produced" track in studio. He is a producer. When asked by interviewers (a question whic arises often) why he does not do "live" preformances, his response is why should he artificially reproduce his music in a way that that it wasn't actually made in the first place to satisfy a rock/live performance ethic. He says that his music was produced to be played out on vinyl or to be listenned to at home. He feels that the music should be presented the way it was designed to be listenned to. He is not a live musician...and that's ok..his produced music rocks..and that's all we care about >I'd honestly rather see crystal method with their stupid fucking laser show and wanking > >guitars than just watch a DJ spin records to a bunch of people nodding their heads.... -ok...if you feel that way, more power to ya...but I think that's exactly what Amon is trying to avoid...the artificial reproduction..ie using a dat maching and hitting a coupla keyboard samples...wow party down dude that's a performance! > I feel like a sucker. I honestly want to support artists I like, but not >if they're going to go on tour and just spin the same fucking records I can >hear in about twenty other NYC bars on any night of the week for free. We >fans of this music should really stop letting ourselves be suckered by these >fake concerts/fake parties. we feel bad that anyone would leave a ninja night feeling like a sucker...in our defense the gig was advertised as a dj gig...most of our parties are cause 10 peice bands on tour cost a fortune..something we unfortunately just don't have. We have to fly in 4 guys from england, hotel, internal travel pay them...and ultimately the promoter puts the price tag on the event...we request that it don't go over $15..buy NY can be an expensive town. Obviously I wasn't at the show last night, but in my experience Mixmaster Morris is one of the best djs I've ever seen and generally speaking he plays a wide variety of music that I maynot have heard before and mixes so slyly (sorry kids not scratching) that he blends tons of genres and takes you on a journey that is crazy good..its very possible he had an off night in NY and if that's the case, once again... very sorry Last but certainly not least...as far as I understand Jonah's set he is actually travelling with effects and dat and remix equiopment and is playing yet unrealesed stuff and remixing it to some extent. Sorry dude, just had to repond cause ya seemed so mad...but it will be an eternal argument I guess...does dj-ing count as performance..I am sure the IDM archives has reams of heated discussion about this...The thing about dj tours for us is that it means we can afford to bring you an evening of diverse and challengeing music and hopefully bring the ninja-vibe party to a town near you... and hey as for cute girls and drugs...ya gots ta sort that shit out for yourself. Or pay 30 bucks and go to a rave and see some dj's there ninja phil stealthy not wealthy