Re: (idm) the early 80's in new york

From solenoid
Sent Sun, Jul 4th 1999, 00:48

Yeah, I have that 1st Sugarhill rap lp from '79 and it says it is w/the
full crew who later became the On-U Sound house band (Wimbish, le Blanc,
you can even see Wimbish (I guess) on the inside photo)

My related question is:  I just got this 12" of "2 Fly" produced by
Grand.Flash and on the Out____ Music Co____ (I forget, but eerily similar
to "Outward Music Company").  ...So, does anyone know who 2-Fly is?  It is
from '81-'82 I think... sorry for the spotty memory...

On Wed, 30 Jun 1999, eric hill wrote:

> this subject can be fuzzed out pretty far afield, but sugarhill gang and
> treacherous three and cohorts were in full force (ar ar) well before
> planet rock came out. though these are widely considered to be rapping
> without hip-hop - they used disco grooves and leblanc/wimbish studio jams
> - flash's "on the wheels of steel" followed some time after, and "planet
> rock" generally signals the birth of both hip-hop and electro along the
> current of rap. they are coterminous.
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Christalmighty,what the heck does 'coterminous' mean, Eric?  You're
sirtainly verbicious with wordage, Eric... learn that one in one of those
red Netware books or was it some O'Reilly pinup centerfold chart?

Solanoyd

> eric
> 
> On Wed, 30 Jun 1999, Joanisse, Robert wrote:
> 
> >electro was the precursor of hip-hop, not a variant. dr dre made surgery
> >before he made straight outta compton.
>