Re: [AH] CS80

From r- jeancarlo
Sent Wed, May 1st 2019, 03:51

Dear Yamaha, your CS80 questions will be promptly answered when you bring b=
ack a batch of IG chips.

> On Apr 30, 2019, at 11:38 PM, Ben Bradley <xxx.xx.xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> wrot=
e:
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> I just double checked this ideascale.com site, you have to register
> (free) and log in (to each company's site on ideascale) to even read
> any of the discussion on the site (at least for some companies - I've
> only signed up for yamahasynth, not sure if I'll add any comments
> there or not). I have the impression that quite a few companies use
> this site to solicit customer feedback, but the site doesn't list who
> uses it outside of a very few examples. I used my Google Fu with
> keyword music to find these others:
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> https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fline6=
.ideascale.com%2F&data=3D02%7C01%7C%7Cbd4c72e8311d4e2fc27708d6cde67a77%=
7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636922787108507375&sdata=
=3D1AY8oZmQux52oKE270i0dD0Bdo49s57H9hSs6JcTXuA%3D&reserved=3D0
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> Sibelius is open for reading without registering:
> https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=3Dhttp%3A%2F%2Fsibeli=
us.ideascale.com%2F&data=3D02%7C01%7C%7Cbd4c72e8311d4e2fc27708d6cde67a7=
7%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636922787108507375&sdata=
=3D0X%2BBUDKEl9Di1Q8%2FleuKtEn9AFtRKXa%2FTteeYRIAG9I%3D&reserved=3D0
> Avid used this, but the text says they've shut down their ideascale
> site and they're doing something similar on their own website:
> https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=3Dhttp%3A%2F%2Favid.v=
enue.ideascale.com%2F&data=3D02%7C01%7C%7Cbd4c72e8311d4e2fc27708d6cde67=
a77%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636922787108507375&sda=
ta=3Dfw97mcnUqP33%2BPTjCL8CA4bV9gHXQW4o1WrAi0hEbqc%3D&reserved=3D0
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> There's this odd one, not a company, just looks like some short ideas
> for daily activities:
> https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fproje=
ctfortnight.ideascale.com%2F&data=3D02%7C01%7C%7Cbd4c72e8311d4e2fc27708=
d6cde67a77%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636922787108507375&=
amp;sdata=3Dr189fpOE%2FuDxPBQKBfUXFwCHjf%2FIfOC9R1VabWI7pkk%3D&reserved=
=3D0
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> I don't really see this as Yamaha "raising a flag" or doing vaporware
> advertising outside of the yamasynth ideascale thing, as the
> discussion there is private. It looks to me a signed-up member got
> excited about seeing "something" about a possible future CS-80, got
> all excited and mentioned it to the synth news sites. Admittedly, it
> appears Yamaha IS asking (a few select people/groups) about it, among
> other possible products. Here's another article on it, from just
> today:
> https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fwww.m=
usicradar.com%2Fnews%2Fis-yamaha-considering-making-a-new-cs-80&data=3D=
02%7C01%7C%7Cbd4c72e8311d4e2fc27708d6cde67a77%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaa=
aaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636922787108517386&sdata=3Dy5IZQqJcGzQiS2PkkXZfmxyKRo5g=
%2BOfoe3LgXamxS3M%3D&reserved=3D0
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>> On Tue, Apr 30, 2019 at 10:31 PM Synth Parts <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx=
> wrote:
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>> Unless they can get the Mitsubishi made voice chips in production again =
there's no point.
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>>> On Tue, Apr 30, 2019 at 7:07 PM Edward Schultheis <xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> w=
rote:
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>>> I think its just fluff to get people excited. Like what behringer did
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>>> On Apr 30, 2019, at 5:51 PM, M V <xx_xxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
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>>> Right. Relying on your in-house team and their market "insight" alone w=
ill just result in the kind of clueless, uninspired garbage that Roland hav=
e been putting out for the last decade.
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>>> ________________________________
>>> From: Mike SynMike <xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2019 7:46 PM
>>> To: Neil Harper; Analogue Heaven AH
>>> Subject: Re: [AH] CS80
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>>> Isn't asking for input like from users this exactly what a marketing re=
search team might do to gather market input?
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>>>> On Apr 30, 2019, at 2:02 PM, Neil Harper <xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> wrote:
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>>>>> On 4/30/19 2:37 PM, Ben Bradley wrote:
>>>>> "If we made a CS-80, do you want a vintage reissue or a modern evolut=
ion?"
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>>>> why don't you ask your designers, engineers and market research teams?=
?
>>>> seriously... hire someone with a vision and figure this shit out yours=
elf.
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>>>> --
>>>> /// Neil Harper
>>>> /// Every Wave is New Until it Breaks
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