From Brian Willoughby Sent Tue, May 29th 2018, 04:39
My particular arrangement allows 34 analog inputs, or up to 46 channels = if I have some digital AES3 equipment like the Sony DAT recorder. Originally, the MIO firmware was arranged like a patch bay, with all = kinds of effects available, and virtual patch cables. But they = eventually restructured MIO Console to look more like a mixer, where you = use inserts for effects and don=E2=80=99t really =E2=80=9Cpatch=E2=80=9D = anything. Instead of patching, you build a mixer by adding strips that = are mono, stereo, quad, surround (anything from 1 to 8 channels), = busses, and master outputs. Each mixer strip gets a group of inputs, and = each master bus connects to a group of outputs. There is also an = optional concept of a Monitor Controller that makes some things easier. I bought the ULN-2 in June of 2008. Added a second-hand 2882 in = September for a year-long installation. Upgraded the ULN-2 with 2D in = 2010. These both support up to 96 kHz sampling. I then purchased the = LIO-8 in 2014 for rare 192 kHz sampling needs. These interfaces have all = been rock solid for a decade so far, and I expect them to last forever. The hardware is so flexible that you can use it for live location = recording, in a recording studio, you can also do full FOH and monitor = mixes in a venue with tons of on-board effects, and the converters are = high-quality enough for a mastering studio. I think you can see why they = spend some time in a portable rack. Brian p.s. At the moment, you need a FireWire-capable Mac, but the 3D upgrade = will be adding USB and ethernet interfacing. Large channel counts might = require a second FireWire port that doesn=E2=80=99t share bandwidth with = the first. The 3D solution will not have the bandwidth limitations of = FireWire. FireWire can handle at least 40 channels in both directions, = but not more than about 54 channels. On May 28, 2018, at 8:57 PM, henrique matias <xxxx.xxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> = wrote: > Metric Halo Console does look fun, from what i can see you can use as = some sort of digital patch bay right? >=20 > Very interesting.. How many channels can you get with all the = expansions? >=20 > On 29 May 2018 at 04:49, Brian Willoughby <xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> = wrote: >> One of the reasons that I like the Metric Halo Labs MIO Console is = that you can name the inputs and then build a custom mixer. There=E2=80=99= s no need for routing, per se, because you simply don=E2=80=99t create = mixer strips for unused channels. You can leave everything plugged in = permanently, provided that you have enough channels. You can also drag = the mixer channels around to change the order so that the grouping makes = more sense for a given project. You can then save everything in a file = or even a template for future projects along the same lines. >>=20 >> As someone pointed out earlier in the thread, once you have the = ability to customize, save, and then recall these complex setups, it = becomes very powerful. >>=20 >> My only problem is that I sometimes tear a third of the system out = and move it to a portable rack, so my older saved files no longer = correspond to reality. They=E2=80=99re easy enough to edit if I don=E2=80=99= t want to connect everything up the same way again. >>=20 >> Another minor issue is that the various preamp expansion is not = always of identical quality, so I have to think about which instruments = go on the best preamps, and so on. >>=20 >> Brian >>=20 >>=20 >> On May 28, 2018, at 8:37 PM, henrique matias <xxxx.xxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> = wrote: >> > I would love to hear how people with 32 or more inputs deal routing = and recording. >> >=20 >> > Patch bays surely helps, but having polyphonic synths and effects = on the mixer can easily make you run out of channels even with 32 input = channels, considering a lot of machines have multiple outputs.. >> >=20 >> > On 29 May 2018 at 04:18, Brian Willoughby <xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> = wrote: >> >> I have the MOTU896HD, and it supports the Mackie MCU Pro as a = control surface. You should be able to control basic level, pan, and = mute from the MOTU mixer using the MCU Pro. It=E2=80=99s a great way to = get things under your fingers without adding a bunch of wires and analog = noise sources. I assume that the 828 supports this as well, and it might = even have effects that were added after the 896HD (mk1) came out. >> >>=20 >> >> Brian >> >>=20 >> >> On May 28, 2018, at 10:21 AM, Boniforti Flavio = <xxxxxxxxx.x@xxxxx.xxx> wrote: >> >> > Hey David. >> >> > You know... I'm also working with 24 inputs on 2x ADA8200 and 1x = MOTU828 MK3. But I miss the faders and potentiometers under my fingers! = I *hate* using a mouse for this! >> >> > So, when I get my studio set up again in my new home = (august/september), I will check space requirements and evaluate a = physical mixer - of course with USB/Firewire connectivity to my computer = for my DAW. >> >> >=20 >> >> > F. >> >> >=20 >> >> > 2018-05-28 19:09 GMT+02:00 David Holt <xxxx_xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>: >> >> >> I=E2=80=99m constantly trying to record on my DAW from = in-the-box sources, external analog gear, and several voices from the = modular- some generative, some not. I=E2=80=99m finding myself = increasingly frustrated by trying to coordinate all the sources for = recording and think maybe a mixer is the answer rather than managing the = inputs of an interface through software. How are you guys handling this? = I don=E2=80=99t think a eurorack mixer is the solution, especially for = the price. Anyone using a USB mixer that acts as an interface as well? >> >> >> Thanks- >> >> >> dave >> >> >=20 >> >=20 >=20