(313) Re: (idm) article by moby in Time

From cognition
Sent Thu, Feb 17th 2000, 14:24

agreed, rob. though i'm also a strict
no drugs, no meat/animal products (strict vegetarian)
person (not religious like him, though),
try to do good kind of person with
personal politics and such,
i think moby is a total idiot. other than
that "go!" track he did early on, it's
just been crap, IMO. and i heard him
do a dj set online recently and it was
pathetic the horrible songs he was playing.
if he's not a dj but his "name power" gets
him dj bookings, he could at least play
and expose his followers to some music
of quality. he djed after derrick may and
it was disgusting how moby totally killed
the vibe may had built up. anyway, i'm digressing;
i think it is apalling that white men like
moby and fatboy slim and others bastardize black
standards/spirituals/classics to make their
"electronica" shite. how can that be "music
for the year 2000?" (my quotes) heck,
anyone with access to the Lomax compendiums
can make money off the backs of dead black
*musicians* and *artists* (i'm stressing the
words on purpose). it takes some ethics
to *not* do this, but fatboy, moby, et al
seem content to toss all sense of morals et al
out the window when it comes to making
radio friendly poplectronica. related:
every time i go into the local record store
here, they're playing that aphrodite "album".
the owner and i both agree it stinks, but he
says every time he plays it, he sells copies.
listening to aphrodite, it's obvious that it's
all mantronix' "king of the beats", schooly
d's "saturday night" et al, etc, etc, etc.
but, with aphrodite making the big bucks
and with major label support, does he
clear those samples? NOPE! i can understand
how/why people who press up limited runs of material
on vinyl that uses samples don't clear their
samples, but for someone like aphrodite making
money on the backs of pioneers like schooly d
and mantronix et al and not giving them *any credit*
whatsoever in the liner notes, it shows that he cares
only about the $. he can afford to clear samples, but
chooses not to. the worst thing is that the kids getting
into the aphrodite are *really* getting into the schooly d,
mantronix et al that he's *sampling*, yet, because
he doesn't credit them, schooly d, mantronix and the
others that made his music possible don't benefit. some
are about the $, while others are about the music.
andrew duke

Robert Galbraith wrote:

> Do we really need this level of interactivity.
> Isn't it enough to hear gospel and blues
> stuff over fatboy slim beats. I'm always
> shocked at how the press chooses moby
> as a spokesperson for electronic culture.
>
> Rob
>
> component records
> http://www.mindstorm.com/component
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Frank St.Jacques <xxxxx.xx.xxxxxxx@xxx.xxx>
> To: idm.list <xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2000 4:04 PM
> Subject: (idm) article by moby in Time
>
> Hello,
>
> There is a short article by
> Moby in the February 21st
> issue of Time magazine.  It's
> titled, "How will we Listen
> to Music".  He suggests
> that in the future music will
> be instantly accessible and
> infinitely variable.  For
> example, "People...will be
> able to...take the drums from
> a Led Zepplin song and put
> Billie Holiday's vocals on top
> of them and then play the whole
> thing backward and twice as fast
> but at the original pitch".
> Sounds lovely!  cheers,
>
> frank
>
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