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"It's Too Damn Early" features experimental music of many varieties, and also includes field recordings and found sound from time to time. Special show within a show "Sound Museum" examines neglected and forgotten recordings of many kinds. "ITDE" is broadcast from WDBX 91.1FM, a not-for-profit community radio station broadcasting to Southern Illinois-- and now, online. www.wdbx.org Complete information about the show (contact info, playlists for all shows, reviews) is available at: http://home.mchsi.com/~itde DaveX, host --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? 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THANK YOU! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- framework - phonography/field recording; contextual and decontextualized sound activity presented by patrick mcginley we continued our deep exploration of several recent arrivals this week with several tracks from sawako's and/oar release yours gray, and and/oar frontman dale lloyd's stasisfield mp3 release turba/lateral minor. the first few of these melted into a backdrop of ilios' fine crackling venta elektra (on antifrost), and led us eventually to some heavily processed brickwork from lief elggren's the cobblestone is the weapon of the proletariat, and some more soothing sounds from scott taylor's conv mp3 release castaway. this was all preceded by a framework introduction recorded for us london painter and mosaic artist henri simson. next friday, as each first friday of the month, sees the monthly airing of peter cusack's vermillion sounds in the field recording slot; we return the week after, the 11th, for our next edition. the show after that, on the 18th, will be this year's first edition of framework:focus, featuring a live performance by the head of the aforementioned stasisfield mp3 label, john kannenberg, visiting from the states. again, we are always looking for material for the show, whether raw field recordings, field recording based composition or introduction submissions. send material, released or not, on any format, to the address below. we are also hoping to have live performances as often as possible, so if you are in or passing through london please get in touch! framework 31 nevill road london n16 8sl uk xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 28.01.05 this edition will be rebroadcast this wednesday, 02.02.05, at 11:00am gmt (artist / title / album / label) henrietta simson / framework intro recorded in a dripping basement below squeaky floorboards in north london http://www.nennasimson.net ilios / - / vento elektra / antifrost very minimal slow building sounds created from electricity and electrical signals http://www.siteilios.gr, http://www.antifrost.gr sawako / as:unacir a message from the bed of the sea / yours gray / and/oar these first 2 tracks interspersed with ilios electricity show a smoother more tonal sound on sawako's latest... http://homepage.mac.com/oto_s, http://www.and-oar.org dale lloyd / lateral minor / turba/lateral minor / stasisfield staccato bumps and piercing silence give way to warmer organic tones http://www.and-oar.org/dalelloyd.html, http://www.stasisfield.com sawako / hole / yours gray / and/oar darker and heavier here, featuring water, sand, shortwave radio and a clock http://homepage.mac.com/oto_s, http://www.and-oar.org dale lloyd / turba [remedial] / turba/lateral minor / stasisfield layers of crackle and static, lending another perspective to our electrical direction http://www.and-oar.org/dalelloyd.html, http://www.stasisfield.com sawako / cache cache / yours gray / and/oar multipoint field recordings taken in the vicinity of a live performance by toshimaru nakamura http://homepage.mac.com/oto_s, http://www.and-oar.org dale lloyd / turba [imitable] / turba/lateral minor / stasisfield at a guess, a duet for radio and the resonance of empty bottles. the reality...? http://www.and-oar.org/dalelloyd.html, http://www.stasisfield.com lief elggren / no.2 / the cobblestone is the weapon of the proletariat / firework edition heavy processing of the sound of a single throw of a cobblestone in the street outside firework editions http://www.fireworkeditionrecords.com tom wallace / brisbane city centre / - / - the artist says: 'recording made while trying to record the pedestrian crossing sound, suddenly it all kicks off!' xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xx.xx scott taylor / - / castaway / conv more recognisable source materials of water and insects continue to bring us back down to earth, softly http://www.con-v.org lief elggren / no.5 / the cobblestone is the weapon of the proletariat / firework edition another sampling of cobblestone warping http://www.fireworkeditionrecords.com scott taylor / - / castaway / conv machine like rattles, clicks and groans with a hint of dripping and some tonal structuring http://www.con-v.org tom wallace / macritchie reservoir in singapore / - / - this singapore reservoir resonates with birds and insects, the rumble of distant water, and the grit of passing footsteps xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xx.xx -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- framework intro submissions: 1) take yourself and an audio recording device to a location of your choice 2) record for AT LEAST 1 minute before you - 3) read the following text: welcome to framework. framework is a show consecrated to field recording, and it's use in composition. field recording, phonography, the art of sound-hunting; open your ears and listen! 4) continue your recording for AT LEAST 2 minutes after you've finish speaking 5) send the recording on any format to the address above, or as an mp3 via email thanks! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- the framework 2003 cd has been reprinted and is now once again available directly from the resonancefm online shop, along with a selection of other benefit cds, t-shirts, and general paraphernalia. drop in here to have a look: http://www.resonancefm.com/shop.php framework 2003 resonancefm benefit cd featuring highlights from the year's broadcasting rob grant & melanie clifford / framework intro thomas dimuzio / unearth & lift and spear / sonicism / rrrecords chris watson / river mara at night / stepping into the dark / touch johannes helden / - / sketchbook / trente oiseaux toy bizarre / - / kdi dctb 116 / absurd murmer / liquid solid / definition / absurd jgrzinich & seth nehil / the distant edge / confluence / intransitive seth nehil & jgrzinich / the mirrored corner / stria / erewhon annette lissauer / framework intro toby paddock / air, surface and magnetic vibrations / - / - steve roden / - / resonant cities / trente oiseaux francisco lopez / untitled #101 / untitled (2000) / ignis projekt mnortham / ancient sewer pipe, valletta, malta / phonography.org 5 / phonography.org the quiet american / donkey trains leaving marpha, nepal / phonography.org 4 / phonography.org steve barsotti / trainyard presence / phonography.org 5 / phonography.org k. m. krebs / jericho sailing center (nautical gamelan) / phonography.org 4 / phonography.org david daniell / highway 371, forty miles south of farmington, january 19, 1998, 2:25 pm / sem / antiopic joyce hinterding / - / spectral / antiopic/sigma editions david daniell / dixon lake road, july 31, 1999, 5:45 am / sem / antiopic tacet ncv / live on framework jean-luc guionnet & bertrand denzler / live on framework dallas simpson / framework intro --Boundary_(ID_sLospZ4kWXVnC9Ym90E/Tg)-- From ???@??? Mon Jan 31 20:21:37 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34230-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 31 Jan 2005 15:21:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 31 Jan 2005 15:21:37 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 74292 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 31 Jan 2005 20:21:32 +0000 Received: (qmail 74281 invoked from network); Mon, 31 Jan 2005 20:21:32 +0000 Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 21:21:28 +0100 From: Michael Winkler <xxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] what d'ya know Ondes Martinot... To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-Accept-Language: en-us, en, de-ch, de-de, fr-ch Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC; en-US; rv:1.0.2) Gecko/20030208 Netscape/7.02 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx hi ndkent, th_ost & folks! find a re-invented follower of the ondes martenot on this site, the ondéa (f***ing expensive, but if i had the money ... ;-) http://www.chez.com/cslevine/ondes/ there you can listen also some ondea-music. enthusiasted, michael --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Jan 31 17:55:48 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34229-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.86]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 31 Jan 2005 12:55:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 31 Jan 2005 12:55:48 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 16787 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 31 Jan 2005 17:55:44 +0000 Received: (qmail 16769 invoked from network); Mon, 31 Jan 2005 17:55:44 +0000 Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 12:55:40 -0500 From: vze26m98 <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] another interesting release In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <r02010400-1035-5226E47573B111D9B229000D932C0D78@[67.84.254.108]> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mailsmith 2.1.4 (Blindsider) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Somme hack at Sub Rosa wrote on 1/31/05: >more than 140 minutes of the most powerful music ever recorded on earth Nice to know that it's the most powerful on earth... <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Jan 31 16:55:59 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34228-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 31 Jan 2005 11:55:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 31 Jan 2005 11:55:58 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 90686 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 31 Jan 2005 16:55:54 +0000 Received: (qmail 90675 invoked from network); Mon, 31 Jan 2005 16:55:54 +0000 Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 08:55:50 -0800 From: Kim Cascone <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] another interesting release To: microsound_list <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=WINDOWS-1252 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Loop-Detect: 1 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx I was also FWD'd this which also sounds like something that would be found in a typical microsounders CD pile: ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -------------- TIBETAN BUDDHIST RITES FROM THE MONASTORIES OF BHUTAN cd SR222 barcode 5411867112228 recorded by John Levy in 1971 more than 140 minutes of the most powerful music ever recorded on earth ! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------ John Levy, an englishman in Bhutan early seventies Released by Lyrichord in mid-70', all the people who have listen to these vinyls know that it does'nt exist something more powerful, more prodigious and pure than them. John Levy was a london ethnomusicologist who took refuge in tibetan buddhism. So he had all the possibilities to record - with his nagra-stéreo - all the rituals (even the most sacred). We can say that what is discovered here is unique and far behond all what was done after that. All the material is fully remastered and we propose the Levy's collection divided into two discs of ritual and chanting (SR222 / rel date Jan 28, 2005) and one of instrumentals and folk music (SR230, to be released late 2005) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------ The great power of the rituals of the Drupka and Nyingmapa Order On the first volume, a double cd with extented notes, Rituals of the Drupka Order, the primary instrument is the long golden trumpet, along with various drums and percussion and a deep droning bass. Rather than soothingly meditative, the music can be a bit dissonant to Western ears. Chanted and played by 76 Lamas and Monks with long trumpets, shawms, cymbals, drums and other Tibetan instruments in sacred temples. Invited by the king of Bhutan, Levy was afforded every facility for recording monastic music in the principal dzongs (great fort-like monasteries) of the Nyingmapa Order. The ethereal Polytonal throat chanting, the long trumpets, shawms and percussion instruments, the processional music and spectacular mask dances, Tibetan and Bhutanese secular songs and poems, All reproduced with incredibly sonic fidelity! A truly remarkable collection, with extensive liner notes, photographs, and musical illustrations by John Levy. as info, later in the year, we'll publish another volume : Tibetan and Bhutanese Instrumental and Folk Music SR230 The last volume features performances on both Tibetan and Bhutanese lutes and fiddles, beautiful folksongs, and a part of a drama of Tibetan origin performed by a troupe of yak and cow herdsmen of eastern Bhutan. The latter is particularly compelling, the standout performer being Go-Te Do-Pe, who sings and accompanies himself on the dramnyen, a Bhutanese lute. His two songs bear an eerie resemblance to the blues of Junior Kimbrough and other Mississippi hill country musiciansŠ A real blues of the top of the world. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------ CD track listing CD ONE PART ONE Rituals of the Drukpa Order Band 1: In Praise of Genyen. Band 2: Offering of "Golden Drink". Band 3: Exhortation to the Guardian Goddess of Long Life. Band 4: Long Trumpets, "Throat Ornament:. Band 5: Long Trumpets, "Two Notes Prolonged". Band 6: Invitation to Gonpo. Band 7: Petition to Chakchen. Band 8: Invoking Tshetro's Blessings. Band 1: Supplication to the Buddhas. Band 2: Aspiration to be reborn in the Western Paradise. Band 3: Petition to Dramar. Band 4: Prayer for Lama's Long Life. Band 5: Large 'Mani-wheel', with mantra. Bands 6, 7, & 8: Rite to Cure Disease, chanted by nuns. Band 9: 'Tibetan Shawm', Processional Music. Band 10: Processional music for shawms and percussion. Band 11: Long Trumpets, "Auspicious Ending". PART TWO Sacred Dances and Rituals of the Nyingmapa and Drukpa Orders Recorded at the Nyingmapa Monastery, Nyimalug. Band 1: Peling Shachham, Deer Dance. Band 2: Dramitse Ngachlam, The Drum Dance of Dramitse. Bands 3, 4 and 5: Lama Norbu Guamtsho, Ritual dedicated to Padma Sambhava. CD TWO Sacred Dances and Rituals of the Nyingmapa and Drukpa Orders (SUITE) Recorded in the Tongsa Dzong. From the Seven Supplications to Padma Sambhava. Band 1: Entreaty to the Three Buddha-bodies Band 2: Invitation to Padma Sambhava. Band 3: Rise up, Padma. Band 4: Words of Prayer. Band 5: "Tibetan Shawms." part three Temple Rituals and Public Ceremonies Annual Restival, drubchen, Great Tantric Attainment, in Myingmapa Monastery at Kyichu. Band 1: Myule Drelwa, Calling Down of deities to subjugate evil spirit; and Kulwa, its death, stabbed by Black Hat. Band 2: Part of Junbeb, The Coming /down of Grace. Band 3: Monks in procession playing portable instruments followed by chanting of the Heart-Drop Teaching. Recorded in Thimphu. Band 4: Dramnyen Choshe, Song of Offering, with lute (dramnyen). Lute solo, followed by chorus, in praise of sons of Bhutan. Band 5: Dramnyen Choshe, chorus only, Song in Praise of Chinese Silk. Annual Restival of Sacred Dance, at Jampai Lhakhang (Temple of the Future Buddha in Bumthang Dt., E. Bhutan). Bands 1,2 and 3: Monks, a clown, crowds and instruments. Band 4: End of festival, with temple bell, and drums and trumpets. Bands 5 and 6: Wandering ascetic (manip) chanting a Milarepa poem and a mantra. Band 7: Cymbals (silnyen) played solo. Band 8: Cross-flute (zurlim), folk-song from E. Bhutan. Band 9: Another manip chanting Milarepa poem. Band 10: First manip as story-teller. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------ key points * recorded by John Levy in 1971 more than 140 minutes of the most powerful music ever recorded on earth ! * John Levy, who was a london ethnomusicologist, took refuge in tibetan buddhism. He had all the possibilities to record - with his nagra-stéreo - all the rituals, even the most sacred, having every facility for recording monastic music in the principal dzongs (great fort-like monasteries) * Secular songs and poems, reproduced with incredibly sonic fidelity! * de luxe packaging with slipcase ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------ musician TIBETAN AND BUDDHIST RITES FROM THE MONASTORIES OF BHUTAN ref SR222 - 2 cd set 2CD set packaged in a slipcase + booklet packed in 25 units CD boxes shrinked release date January 28, 2005 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Jan 31 16:53:08 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34227-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.113]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 31 Jan 2005 11:53:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 31 Jan 2005 11:53:08 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 88896 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 31 Jan 2005 16:53:04 +0000 Received: (qmail 88886 invoked from network); Mon, 31 Jan 2005 16:53:04 +0000 Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 08:53:00 -0800 From: Kim Cascone <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] interesting new release To: microsound_list <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Loop-Detect: 1 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx I was FWD'd this info by my friends over at Sub Rosa and wanted to share this info with the list since it sounds like something people here would find interesting... KIM ======================================================================== ========= RELEASE DATE JANUARY 21 - 2005 SIMON KEEP interview with the eggs cd SR234 barcode 5411867112341 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------ In confine of silence "The original sound installation consisted of three headphones playing back three different sounds. Though the first set of headphones the sound of snow was heard, close up and sounding like dust or sugar. The second was the sound of a Buddhist monk meditating in an empty room. The last was the sound of volcanic steam seeping out of the sides of a mountain. Alongside the headphones were one thousand origami cranes. The paper was made from photo snapshots of Japan and when made the cranes were hung in ten rows of one hundred. To make one thousand origami cranes is a Japanese symbol of health and longevity. Sound pieces produced from Mini Disc recordings I made in Japan 2002. The audio has been extracted from Hokkaido's volcanic snow-covered landscape. The composition and patterns of the sound are based on the way I heard these sounds; they are inspired by my experience of listening. One of the recordings was made inside a temple. During "Zazen" meditation the sound of an empty room was opening out to me and I was hearing sounds deep into the room. One evening I recorded the sound of an empty midnight landscape, again I was listening into the silence and into the distance. Sounds would ring out from the distance, then a split second later I would hear silent space again." Simon Keep ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------ Simon Keep aka Holkham Simon keep is a young londoner, composer, involved in a series of sound installations. More recently, out of a desire for people to hear/think about sound in a more conscious way, he has been working on a public arts project with Vital Arts at the Royal London Hospital. He has also been working with sound outside of the human audibility, mainly radio waves. Over the summer of 2002 he created a sound triptych for an exhibition in Memphis called "life/afterlife", (based on this inaudible sound.) His up-coming project is working again with Why Not Associates on a sixteen-channel sound installation at the "Cultural Institute of Macau" in China, a video piece filming the sound of moths and a recording project collecting sound samples from England's least noise polluted spaces. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------ Silence as poetic system Walking through snow, my feet crunching on the snow and ice, kicking the snow, sounding like sugar, snow dust. Night-time recording, the silence outside the cabin, red, green and yellow stars, the flashing lights of city. Hearing emptiness, no sound then sound, the imprint of sound in my mind, reverberations of sound in my head and the contemplation of sound. Zazen, the sound of an empty room, listening deep into a room for inherit sound Volcanic eggs, the sound of steam seeping out of a mountainside and poaching eggs. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------ CD track listing Hokkaido (parts 1-13) 1 snow powder dust 2 snow glitch 3 recording silence 4 treated silence 5 snowdrone 1 6 snowdrone 2 7 snow cracks 1 8 snow cracks 2 9 snow cracks 3 10 snow crunch bit 11 night outside cabin 12 cold wind 13 distant Kushiro lights Zazen, Listening to the Room 14 bell waves 15 bell 2 16 zazen bell 1 17 zazen bell 2 18 untitled process 19 listening to the room Interview With the Eggs 20 low eggs 21 treated steam 22 steam wheat 1 23 steam wheat 2 24 interview with the eggs ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------ musician SIMON KEEP ref SR234 standard jewel case 6 pages letterfold booklet packed in 25 units CD boxes shrinked file under Simon Keep / avant garde release date January 21, 2005 -- mailto:xx@xxxxxxx.xxx --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Jan 31 16:02:51 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34226-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 31 Jan 2005 11:02:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 31 Jan 2005 11:02:51 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 72684 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 31 Jan 2005 16:02:36 +0000 Received: (qmail 72670 invoked from network); Mon, 31 Jan 2005 16:02:35 +0000 Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 16:59:03 +0100 From: underscan <xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] UNDERSCAN NEWS To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>, xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_wYI0rwrBTajS4PhqFr0h7w)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Provags-ID: kundenserver.de xxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xx auth:4a4b2770435051328542809f1368b6ea X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_wYI0rwrBTajS4PhqFr0h7w) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit hi here are the latest infos on underscan in 2005 ! we wish u a happy new year and wanted to thank everyone who supported us over the years. all the best from underscan -- Rod "All My Love" EP hitting stores now !!! Rod Morris from Ireland delivers a very emotional insight with this new installement on underscan and front end synthetics. some review excerpts: "Simply put, 'All My Love' is so divine it might have dropped from heaven.." (textura.org) "Bass is a wonderful thing. Rod proves it. 'All my love' is an outstanding track. A slowly evaporating melody unfolding on some delicate electronica noises and beats..." (monochrom.at) The release is brought to you in colaboration with Irish based label Front End Synthetics who are making the release available on CD. For more info and track previews click here please: http://www.underscan.de/Prelisten/us007_preview.html If you want to order any of the items please get in touch mailto:xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx If you want to diretly dowload the tracks please go to http://shopbase.finetunes.net/shopserver/ActionServlet? cmd=labeldetails&labelid=2000 -- Upcoming: NOW Series "NOW" is the new compilation series on Underscan which is brought to you as four 12" vinyl records. A full length CD featuring all the tracks will be released to coincide with the fourth and final EP. NOW presents the current state of the label and what is to be expected in the near future. Featured acts are current Underscan artists such as GRAM, DALEZY, SOMSHIT, ONETHEMA, ROD and MENU:EXIT as well as SCANNER, F. BRETSCHNEIDER, FUNCKARMA, EVEREST, QUENCH, FIBLA and others. NOW 01 (feat. tracks by Funckarma, Gram, Somshit, Pytlik) will be released on 14. March 2005 as a limited 12" (500 copies only) and downloadable mp3. more info online soon ! -- Events: Underscan Labelnite: 10.02.05 Taktik (front, berlin) [live] Menu:Exit (underscan, berlin) [live] Marius Reisser (repeatrepeat, berlin) [dj] NBI (neue berliner initiative) Schönhauserallee 157 | Berlin "All My Love" mini Tour: Rod (underscan, neo ouija, dublin) [live] Menu:Exit (underscan, berlin) [live] Marius Reisser (repeatrepeat, berlin) [dj] 25.02.05 Zentrale Randlage Schönhauserallee 172 | Berlin 26.02.05 Superkronic Markranstaedter Strasse 4 | Leipzig/Plagwitz Underscan Labelnite: 18.03.05 Scanner (bette, underscan, london) [live] Menu:Exit (underscan, berlin) [live] more to be confirmed....watch our site !!! NBI (neue berliner initiative) Schönhauserallee 157 | Berlin -- more info on underscan and related stuff: http://www.underscan.de (new website coming soon !!!) -- --Boundary_(ID_wYI0rwrBTajS4PhqFr0h7w)-- From ???@??? Mon Jan 31 10:35:08 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34225-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 31 Jan 2005 05:35:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 31 Jan 2005 05:35:08 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 46185 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 31 Jan 2005 10:35:07 +0000 Received: (qmail 46153 invoked from network); Mon, 31 Jan 2005 10:35:07 +0000 Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 10:34:45 +0000 From: slow sound system <xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] slow sound system : we're breaking up, cheapmachines, 13 february, london To: Ambient <xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>, Dorkbot London <xxxxxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx>, DorkbotLondon-Blabber <xxxxxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx>, IDM <xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>, lowercase sound <xxxxxxxxx-xxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>, foundry news <xxxx@xxxxxxx.xx>, Microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>, Wire Announcements <xxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>, xxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx, xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <005101c50780$808cb300$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx SLOW SOUND SYSTEM LIE DOWN AND BE COUNTED THE FOUNDRY : 13 FEBRUARY 2005 : 3-8PM, FREE -------------------- 'Quality avant chillage' BBCi 'Unadulterated bliss .' RESONANCE FM -------------------- The slow sound system explores ambient listening, new electronica and pixel manipulation . we return for 2005 with the first of our free listening sessions. Lining up at The Foundry on 13 February are two of London's brightest stars of electronica, last encountered at the London Headphones Festival last year. We're Breaking Up lay down delicate shortwave experiments and electronic snap, crackle & pop. Meanwhile Cheapmachines explores warm noise, field recordings and tape loops. On the bench: digitals, soundscaping and audiocollage from resident djs iMax and Albert, plus digital artworks and flash workouts from Janek Ropinsky. Full details follow. PS! - on the 17th it's Isan, Bovaflux, Fisk Industries and e.g.ø at the Horse Hospital. Organised by our friends [no.signal] and HighpointLowlife. More details at www.no-signal.net. --------------------- ARTIST BIOS WE'RE BREAKING UP (TWOTHOUSANDAND / ANTIOPIC) (US / UK) (LIVE) : shortwave electronica, snap, crackle & pop We're Breaking Up is Michael Rodgers, multi-instrumentalist, free improviser and (with Anthony Guerra) co-founder of the outstanding London-Sydney label TwoThousandAnd. Living in London since 2000, he's now a fixture of the electronica / impro / microsound scene, with TwoThousandAnd really on a roll at the moment. Michael brings a sense of urgency and openness to his own musical projects - collaborators include Paul Hood, Anthony Guerra, Pedro Lourenço and Manuel Mota. Much of his music reflects personal ideas of distance, human relationships, density, and things that are invisible. Michael plays out regularly in London and has also performed in Portugal, Germany, Austria and the USA. 'Restless, shifting drones . a really epic feel. Excellent' SMALLFISH 'Takes the improvisation of electronics to a barren wasteland, it glows and flashes and fizzes to the end' IGLOOMAG 'Yet another fine, fine release from this superb label. Check it out' BAGATELLEN --------------------- CHEAPMACHINES (KABUKIKORE, NID NOD) (UK) (LIVE) : warm noise, field recordings, tape loops Cheapmachines has been in existence since 1997, acting at the interface between noise electronics, generative software, field recordings, tape music and drones. Stark, stunning soundscaping and musique concrete. '. some fine examples of extreme manipulation .' VITAL --------------------- RESIDENTS iMAX, ALBERT (GRAIN OF SOUND, KABUKIKORE, 8BITRECS) (UK / FR) (DJ) : decks, loops and FX JANEK ROPINSKY (KLIKLAK, POP-UP RECS) (D) (VJ): flashwerks, digital sublime --------------------- DETAILS Sunday 13 February, 3-8pm, free admission The Foundry, 84-86 Great Eastern St, London, ec2 : 0207 739 6900 : xxxx@xxxxxxx.xx : www.foundry.tv xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx www.slowsound.net ---------------------- CHECK www.twothousandand.com www.antiopic.com www.a-version.co.uk/cheap/ www.kabukikore.net www.8bitrecs.com www.hardmanbros.com www.jayropinsky.kliklak.net ---------------------- Ends slow sound system lie down and be counted xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx www.slowsound.net ----- in league w/ [no.signal] | not clickable | sonomu | highpointlowlife | midrange | frequenzen ----- ----- new! live sets archive w/motion, recon, crucial felix/timeblind, sebastien roux, adam butler/vert and more http://www.slowsound.net 'small pieces', every friday on Resonance 101.4fm, midnight-1am GMT http://www.resonancefm.com 'there is no hidden meaning', out now on kabuki kore http://www.kabukikore.net ----- ----- london headphones festival 2004 http://www.state51.org/placard 'midrange sessions', forthcoming on coombe records http://www.coomberecords.com slow sound system vs. posset, 'entropy sessions' out now on kabuki kore http://www.kabukikore.net 'first steps' out now on grain of sound http://www.grainofsound.com imax photogallery : kill yr speed http://www.lomohomes.com/imax [no.signal] : promoters of genius http://no-signal.net highpointlowlife : bitmpapped indie-electronic goodness since 01 http://www.highpointlowlife.com sprawl club @ charterhouse http://www.sprawl.org.uk frequenzen, fortnightly on resonance 104.4fm http://www.frequenzen.co.uk sonomu : sound noise music http://www.sonomu.net kultureflash : headlines from london http://www.kultureflash.net ----- no? reply to this email with 'unsubscribe' in the subject line. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Jan 31 05:30:19 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34224-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 31 Jan 2005 00:30:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 31 Jan 2005 00:30:19 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 58484 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 31 Jan 2005 05:30:14 +0000 Received: (qmail 58474 invoked from network); Mon, 31 Jan 2005 05:30:14 +0000 Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2005 21:30:08 -0800 From: David Kendall <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Fwd: February 1st at The Smell To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_+MYPaT1EVmUIkcbgppNENg)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_+MYPaT1EVmUIkcbgppNENg) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > Apologies first for the promotional and second for the last-minute > nature of this message. This should be a great show and I encourage > all to come who can make it. If you do not want receive these kinds of > messages from me, please let me know and I will send you no more > announcements in the future. Thanks. > > -David > > Here's a show on Tuesday February 1st: > > Sejayno (shinth builder Peter Blasser) > God (Bryan Eubanks and Leif Sundstrom from Portland, OR) > Gowns (members of Mae Shi/Blue Silk Sutures) > David Kendall > > This will be happening at the Smell. The show starts at 9pm, and it > costs $5 to get inside. > > This is what David Cotner from the LA Weekly has to say about the > show: > > Flying down from Portland with a little deific slice of circuit-bent > heaven, God (Bryan Eubanks and Leif Sundstrom) uses found electronics, > record players and equalizers in improvisations that warp one’s senses > of Silence and Loud. Likeminded mind-benders Gowns’ sundry > synthesizers and electronics preface David Kendall’s computer world > studies; he prefers to ape the death rattles of analog synths through > the laptop these days. Sejayno is Peter Blasser and Severiano Martinez > — Blasser builds analog synthesizers made from logs and coats, while > poet Martinez plays bells and the tor-tor. This machine — actually a > forhortortor — is a device for twisting and kneading vocals, alongside > the “infinite rambling” of the leather-clad phase shifters known as > ambraziers and the chaotic electronic menace of the kittennettik, all > evolving and devolving into something Blasser calls “serene techno.” > It’s advanced sound-tweaking science mixed with naiveté and innocence > reminiscent of the first time you ever saw something like a car. > > _________________________________________________ > homepage http://davidkendall.net > mp3 http://www.ponyattack.com; http://ruccas.org > _________________________________________________ homepage http://davidkendall.net mp3 http://www.ponyattack.com; http://ruccas.org --Boundary_(ID_+MYPaT1EVmUIkcbgppNENg)-- From ???@??? Sun Jan 30 16:24:28 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34223-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 30 Jan 2005 11:24:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 30 Jan 2005 11:24:27 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 20283 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 30 Jan 2005 16:24:22 +0000 Received: (qmail 20270 invoked from network); Sun, 30 Jan 2005 16:24:21 +0000 Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2005 17:24:16 +0100 From: herv=?ISO-8859-1?B?6Q==?= boghossian <xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx-xx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] LIST New Year News( and related ones) ! 30.01.05 In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BE22C8BF.85AC%xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx-xx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2106 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx hi microsounders, some news for early 2005 from LIST : 1/ NEW RELEASE : Much anticipated GUNTER MULLER & STEINBRUCHEL "perspectives" (List-L6)* The collaboration, created by List for a concert at Geneva Cave12 on december 5th 2003 , born from the desire of List to confront two musicians from different backgrounds and prove that they have so much in common ! This duo worked so well that it was clear from that day that it have to be documented by List ! This cd based on recordings of live improvisation from that day to may 2004 and then edited and reworked by the artists in their studio from june to december 2004, is composed of 12 pieces with a strong unity (+ a bonus track) . duration : 71 minutes mastering : Steinbruchel packaging: digifile design : Steinbruchel photos : Taylor Deupree more info on the artists on : - GUNTER MULLER at http://home.datacomm.ch/g.mueller/mueller.htm - STEINBRUCHEL at http://www.synchron.ch and soon on List website (with bio, samples and a detailed catalog page) you can already check the frontcover design on : http://www.list-en.com * this cd will be available to order from >08.02.05< through List paypal shop (price 14 euros shipping included) and on the next weeks on List distributors and mail-orders around the world . 2/ NEW DISTRIBUTORS : CANADA : 1.8(sec) http://www.1pt8.tk/ SCANDINAVIA : DOT http://www.dotshop.se CHINA : MONITOR http://www.monitor-records.com 3/ NEXT EVENTS : FEBRUARY : 12.02.05 Planetarium > Bruxelles (be) :: live : Herve Boghossian + Colleen http://www.vaartkapoen.be 24.02.05 Kunstraum Walcheturm > Zurich (ch) "Perspectives" cd release concert : :: live : Gunter Muller & Steinbruchel + Herve Boghossian http://www.walcheturm.ch 25.02.05 Bad Bonn > Dudingen (ch) :: live : Hervé Boghossian http://www.badbonn.ch MARCH/APRIL : IN PARIS (fr): SOUND INSTALLATIONS with Bernd Schurer (Domizil) and LIVE (solo) : from STEINBRUCHEL at Centre Culturel Suisse . LIVE from GUNTER MULLER & STEINBRÜCHEL (tbc) . and from HERVE BOGHOSSIAN/STEPHANE RIVES/ MATTHIEU SALADIN TRIO° (tbc) more details soon 4/ NEW PROJECTS : HERVE BOGHOSSIAN new projects currently at work : - °A trio with H.B (guitar feedback) / STEPHANE RIVES (soprano saxophone) / MATTHIEU SALADIN ( amplified bass clarinet & mixing desk ) in the spirit of the H.B "rvb" album, an exploration of electric and amplified or totally acoustic intruments to meet electronic sounds (like sine tones) . _"EUPHONIE" a sequel of "Mouvements" which were released on Raster-Noton last june http://www.raster-noton.de . a step forward on the possibilities of guitar with DSP in a more "pop" touch that the previous one . (euphonie : harmonic suite of sounds in a sentence) thanks for your attention all the best rv --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Jan 30 12:49:09 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34222-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 30 Jan 2005 07:49:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 30 Jan 2005 07:49:08 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 72303 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 30 Jan 2005 12:49:01 +0000 Received: (qmail 72291 invoked from network); Sun, 30 Jan 2005 12:49:01 +0000 Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2005 12:48:26 +0000 From: sound no sound <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] TRACKS ANYONE???? X-Originating-IP: [61.68.52.129] X-Sender: xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Bcc: Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Originating-Email: [xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Jan 2005 12:49:00.0420 (UTC) FILETIME=[11F29C40:01C506CA] Hi All, We're starting a CDR label here in Sydney Australia>>> The name of this label will be Spanish Magic. We are going to start off with a compilation of Australian music. If anyone is interested in contributing a track to this compilation which will be released on May 7th or thereabouts, we would love you to get in contact with us at; xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx or send tracks to: 2/280 Palmer St. Darlinghurst NSW 2010 If you want anymore information or anything please email us or call me on 0404837117 Hope to hear from some of you soon. Cheers, Mark _________________________________________________________________ Are you right for each other? Find out with our Love Calculator: http://fun.mobiledownloads.com.au/191191/index.wl?page=191191text --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Jan 30 01:32:38 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34221-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.113]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 29 Jan 2005 20:32:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 29 Jan 2005 20:32:38 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 27259 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 30 Jan 2005 01:32:36 +0000 Received: (qmail 27245 invoked from network); Sun, 30 Jan 2005 01:32:35 +0000 Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2005 17:32:31 -0800 From: Phil Thomson <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] iPods boot Linux To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: Phil Thomson <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=pVrO+nxXt505JJNk5xchgKhe+vWTpNmVPp78g+kLlUZj9bdEtKS6D7S67zEe3aFBw1hS1A+IuI0gIsfCbXYGs7vI9sH3qm9TmuU5UVvJAe0NJZ2pBjUoLhaBTFr+QUu+UG6p4vOZCoFoN8+5CJrFIdqy6CT522GkWUcVJuMHeak= X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx http://apple.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/01/29/2017244 -- Phil Thomson xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx { home: http://www.sfu.ca/~pthomson/ { blog: http://www.bloglines.com/blog/PhilThomson { label: http://centibel.org/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Jan 29 23:51:27 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34220-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 29 Jan 2005 18:51:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from gx2.optonline.net (gx2.optonline.net [167.206.112.44]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 29 Jan 2005 18:51:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org ([209.237.226.90]) by gx2.optonline.net (InterMail vG.1.00.00.00 201-2136-104-20040331) with SMTP id <20050129235117.FPZR3617.gx2.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> for <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>; Sat, 29 Jan 2005 18:51:17 -0500 Received: (qmail 3187 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 29 Jan 2005 23:51:19 +0000 Received: (qmail 3175 invoked from network); Sat, 29 Jan 2005 23:51:19 +0000 Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2005 00:47:21 +0100 From: th_ost <xxxxxx@xxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] what d'ya know Ondes Martinot... To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <001301c5065c$e09f6eb0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_Ra15HgPs3TXfxLiwHsfI8g)" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Authenticated: #3048294 X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_Ra15HgPs3TXfxLiwHsfI8g) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit thanx for all that info. will get me busy searching down more info/cds. th_ost °°° th_ost: tomoroh hidari_oliver stummer acronymic symbiosis of alter & ego http://www.tomoroh.com/ http://www.stiege44.com/ xxxxxx@xxx.xxx ay, sigue:56825202 >> we gonna fight for your right to apathy... << °°°°° ----- Original Message ----- From: ndkent To: microsound Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 01:08 Subject: [microsound] what d'ya know Ondes Martinot... > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "th_ost" <xxxxxx@xxx.xxx> > To: "microsound" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> > Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 7:34 AM > Subject: Re: [microsound] Ondes Martinot... > > i am very interested in the ondes martenot, but found it hard to find > recordings of it, especially unacommpanied ones. > the only one i have is a recording of olivier messiaen's turangalila > symphony conducted by seiji ozawa. that 3 CD "OHM" set (released by the Elipsis Arts label in 2000) of (mostly) historic electronic music has a Messaien piece - for 4 ondes here goes the album it's from (which I don't have) http://www.amazon.ca/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000006EI8 (if the link doesn't work it's a 1990 CD recorded by and self titled "Ensemble d'Ondes de Montréal") I think the key album (though surely not easily obtained) is a double 1980 LP by Jeanne Loriod "Les Ondes Martenot - 50e Anniversaire de leur invention " on the Musique Francais d'Aujourd'huis label cat# 21.007 ADÈS That's got the full Messiaen "Fête des belles eaux" with the 6 Ondes ensemble, Millhaud & Jolivet pieces for Ondes and piano and then a newly commissioned piece (by Tessier) to play on a 6 ondes ensemble. > does anybody know of other recordings? > also, does anybody know how hard it would be to build one, given there > are > schematics of it to be found (i am absolutely NOT an electronics dyi > person, > just curious:(( ) It's vacuum tube technology though the inventor did update the technology and build some using more modern solid state components before he died. Though it's not really correct to simplify it quite so far, if you think about it, the sound is basically sine waves (though often treated even mechanically resonated within the system) so I'd think at least as much of it's distinction is it's user interface. I played a real one once for a couple minutes. You had the ring on wire that most people probably know about, but what's less known is the keyboard keys are baby sized and the whole mechanism rocks left and right for vibrato effects. So it's a little like a 2 part retinking of the theremin. You can do pitch sweeps. There's an accuracy to the sweeps that takes much longer to master on a real Theremin. But you still have manual vibrato... something well known to string players and vocalists but rarely taken advantage of in electronic music performance (where more or less fixed speed electronic LFOs rule when unexpressive samples aren't used). By the way. Radiohead might very well have bought a real one with their considerable money since then but kind of like like Portishead and their "Theremin", what they were using when their first got associated with the Ondes, and seen in videos of them live was actually a newlymade Analogue Systems French Connection CV keyboard controller meant for their line of analogue synth modules. (likely a prototype to be exact) . Anyway maybe someone will clue me in as to where if anywhere he's or they're playing a real Ondes rather than an Ondes his Analogue Systems inspired by synth controller. http://www.analoguesystems.co.uk/controllers.htm (scroll to the bottom keyboard) Less expected movies with substantial Ondes playing in the scores are Maurice Jarre's "Passage to India" and Elmer Bernstein's "The Field". Takemitsu's "Rising Sun" (the Connery/Snipes film) along with several of his Japanese scores ("Legacy for the Future" was re-issued by DG Japan a few years back). More expected are "Ed Wood" and "Ghost Busters" (also by Elmer Bernstein) nicholas d. kent www,technopop.info --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org --Boundary_(ID_Ra15HgPs3TXfxLiwHsfI8g)-- From ???@??? Sat Jan 29 12:06:30 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34219-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.110]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 29 Jan 2005 07:06:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 29 Jan 2005 07:06:30 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 39417 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 29 Jan 2005 12:06:26 +0000 Received: (qmail 39407 invoked from network); Sat, 29 Jan 2005 12:06:25 +0000 Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2005 13:03:53 +0100 From: Malte Steiner <xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] [OT] Firewall In-reply-to: <002401c50553$62c21c40$xxxxxxxx@xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> Organization: block 4 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; en-US; rv:1.8a6) Gecko/20050111 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <002401c50553$62c21c40$xxxxxxxx@xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Kerio makes a good one http://www.kerio.com/kpf_home.html their personal firewall works good on my Windows Box in the freeware mode. But I second the suggestion to get another physical firewall in front of windows, here it is a Linuxbox securing the network. Windows can internal bypass any given firewall running on it, a sick and twisted system. Cheers, Malte -- Malte Steiner media art + development -www.block4.com- Next events: 11. february Elektronengehirn Concert at Dorkbot Ghent, Belgium more at blog 4, also available as rss feed: http://java.block4.com/blog4/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Jan 29 07:48:23 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34217-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 29 Jan 2005 02:48:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 29 Jan 2005 02:48:22 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 86220 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 29 Jan 2005 07:48:22 +0000 Received: (qmail 86210 invoked from network); Sat, 29 Jan 2005 07:48:22 +0000 Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2005 13:37:53 +0200 From: ".` =?ISO-8859-1?B?sLcnICCxICBgLrAgJ7c=?=" <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] archive.org In-reply-to: <xxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BE214231.26E%xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx hallo, is anyone using archive.org who had problems to log into the server. i believe i have exhausted all methods and thought perhaps someone has had similar issues. my belief is a firewall of any kind is disallowed. is this true and/or are there any suggestions? thanks. . 1001 e*; . · . + . : . t) X t t) z z z z o o o o o 1 o o ! ¬ Ÿ Ð o o- (o )) \\ /| /\ /- o . + .· . € + . º' " ..· - º € . ¬ . 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Sat Jan 29 08:05:23 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34218-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 29 Jan 2005 03:05:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 29 Jan 2005 03:05:22 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 90940 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 29 Jan 2005 08:03:36 +0000 Received: (qmail 90930 invoked from network); Sat, 29 Jan 2005 08:03:35 +0000 Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2005 16:03:20 +0800 From: "xxxx@xxxxx.xxx" <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] archive.org In-reply-to: <BE214231.26E%xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx.xx Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7.1 (Windows/20040626) X-Enigmail-Version: 0.85.0.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <BE214231.26E%xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx yeah sometimes this happens - usually when the server is full or too may users - if it doesn't sort iteslf out soonish just send them a friendly email and they will assist , how soon depends if anyone is working on it on the w/e.... ch-ears ..` °·' ± `.° '· wrote: >hallo, > >is anyone using archive.org who had problems to log into >the server. i believe i have exhausted all methods and >thought perhaps someone has had similar issues. my >belief is a firewall of any kind is disallowed. is this true >and/or are there any suggestions? > >thanks. > > > . 1001 > e*; > . · . + . : >. > t) X >t t) > z >z z z > > o o >o o > o 1 >o o > ! ¬ Ÿ Ð > > o > o- (o )) >\\ /| > /\ /- >o . + > .· . € > + . > > º' " ..· > > > - º > > € . ¬ > . ' > ' > -',. > · > > > > · ` .; > > . '· ` > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >website: http://www.microsound.org > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Jan 29 02:53:08 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34216-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 28 Jan 2005 21:53:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 28 Jan 2005 21:53:08 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 21511 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 29 Jan 2005 02:53:05 +0000 Received: (qmail 21500 invoked from network); Sat, 29 Jan 2005 02:53:05 +0000 Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2005 20:52:57 -0600 (CST) From: Barry Grant <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] [OT] Firewall In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> X-Sender: 168607 X-Sender: unknown To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxx-xxxxxx-xx@xxxxx.xxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: RMM Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <002401c50553$62c21c40$xxxxxxxx@xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx zone alarm See http://www.cleansoftware.org/security/ for more. B > ( 05.01.28 17:06 +0100 ) Noisejihad: > > Can anybody recommend a good, free firewall for windoze? > > http://gentoo.org/ > http://openbsd.org/ [if you're really paranoid] > > but to install, you'd need to wipe windoze, or put another machine on > the network in front of it. it might be easier to buy one of those > linksys router-firewall things. > > -- > \js http://or8.net/~johns ;`^+{"-&= '>> ^ > iraq body count: 15,495 [min] 17,723 [max] > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Jan 29 01:28:13 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34215-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 28 Jan 2005 20:28:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 28 Jan 2005 20:28:13 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 98336 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 29 Jan 2005 01:28:10 +0000 Received: (qmail 98322 invoked from network); Sat, 29 Jan 2005 01:28:08 +0000 Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2005 19:32:32 -0600 From: DaveX <xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Job opportunity at the Exploratorium - FEB 1 deadline! To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <000801c505a2$67d23f40$xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1478 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@x-x.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@x.xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx I'm SO sorry, but this made me laugh. --DaveX Gives me hope that I could find a decent job when I get the hell out of school.... - Scott Carver --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Jan 29 01:23:47 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34214-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 28 Jan 2005 20:23:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 28 Jan 2005 20:23:47 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 94467 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 29 Jan 2005 01:23:44 +0000 Received: (qmail 94454 invoked from network); Sat, 29 Jan 2005 01:23:44 +0000 Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2005 17:23:30 -0800 From: Scott Carver <xxxxxxx@x.xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Job opportunity at the Exploratorium - FEB 1 deadline! In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@x-x.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@x.xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@x-x.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Gives me hope that I could find a decent job when I get the hell out of school.... - Scott Carver On Jan 28, 2005, at 4:47 PM, derek holzer wrote: > This got posted to the Phonography list, but I thought it would be > topical here as well. *Almost* makes me wish I still ive din SF... > > derek > > *** > > AUDIO & SOUND DEVELOPER > Center for Public Exhibition > Full-time position (with some flexibility) > > > SUMMARY: > The Audio and Sound Developer uses strong conceptual, creative, and > technical skills to > develop and redesign exhibits for inclusion in the Exploratorium's new > "Listening" area. > The position is in the Center for Public Exhibition, which has primary > responsibility for the > public museum floor. This is a fixed term, full-time position funded > through September > 2006. Qualified candidates available for less than a full-time > schedule will be considered. > The position will report to the Listening Project Manager. > > > > > > ESSENTIAL FUNCTIONS: > · Design, develop, and produce highly accessible audio-based exhibits > for the new > "Listening" area of the museum floor. > · Evaluate and redesign existing exhibits to fit within the new > "Listening" collection. > · Support the exhibit development efforts of other project team > members by providing > expertise in sound and audio technology. > · Conceptualize, research, and develop materials on topics involving > sound, hearing, and > attentive listening. > · Work collaboratively with scientists, educators, artists, exhibit > developers, and media > professionals on team-based projects. > · Manage own projects, meet deadlines, and attend project team > meetings. > · Additional duties as assigned. > > > > > > > QUALIFICATIONS: > · Bachelors Degree. > · Minimum 3 years experience in audio production and/or sound > manipulation. > · Background or strong interest in science, sound art/design, > humanities, and public > education. > · Demonstrated proficiency in a variety of audio production tools and > software, such as > Peak and Pro Tools. Knowledge of MAX MSP plus at least one other > signal processing > package a plus. > · Familiarity and demonstrated proficiency in state-of-the-art audio > production software. > · Demonstrated troubleshooting and technical problem-solving abilities. > · Excellent communication and interpersonal skills, including ability > to work collaboratively > on project teams. > · Knowledge of inquiry-based teaching strategies helpful. > · Able to lift & carry up to 50 lbs for short distances, move from > place to place, and use a > computer terminal as well as basic office and shop equipment > > > > > > > APPLICATION DEADLINE: > Please submit on or by Tuesday, February 1, 2005. > > > > > > HOW TO APPLY: > This is a fixed-term, full-time (37.5 hours per week), exempt, union > (grade 20, step 1) > position that pays $845.63 per week and includes benefits. This > fixed-term position is to > end on or before September 30, 2006. Qualified candidates available > for less than full- > time will be considered. Please indicate your preferred schedule in > your application. Please > apply by sending cover letter and resume to: > > Dept. CPE-1 > Exploratorium, 3601 Lyon Street, San Francisco, CA 94123 > Fax: (415) 561-0370 > E-mail: xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx (attachments not accepted) > No phone calls please > > > The Exploratorium is committed to a diverse workforce > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/phonography/ > > <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > xxxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx > > <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > > > -- > derek holzer ::: http://www.umatic.nl > ---Oblique Strategy # 36: > "Consult other sources > -promising > -unpromising" > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Jan 29 00:45:08 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34213-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 28 Jan 2005 19:45:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 28 Jan 2005 19:45:08 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 70747 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 29 Jan 2005 00:45:02 +0000 Received: (qmail 70725 invoked from network); Sat, 29 Jan 2005 00:45:01 +0000 Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2005 01:47:25 +0100 From: derek holzer <xxxxx@x-x.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Job opportunity at the Exploratorium - FEB 1 deadline! To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@x-x.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-Accept-Language: en Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041206) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx This got posted to the Phonography list, but I thought it would be topical here as well. *Almost* makes me wish I still ive din SF... derek *** AUDIO & SOUND DEVELOPER Center for Public Exhibition Full-time position (with some flexibility) SUMMARY: The Audio and Sound Developer uses strong conceptual, creative, and technical skills to develop and redesign exhibits for inclusion in the Exploratorium's new "Listening" area. The position is in the Center for Public Exhibition, which has primary responsibility for the public museum floor. This is a fixed term, full-time position funded through September 2006. Qualified candidates available for less than a full-time schedule will be considered. The position will report to the Listening Project Manager. ESSENTIAL FUNCTIONS: · Design, develop, and produce highly accessible audio-based exhibits for the new "Listening" area of the museum floor. · Evaluate and redesign existing exhibits to fit within the new "Listening" collection. · Support the exhibit development efforts of other project team members by providing expertise in sound and audio technology. · Conceptualize, research, and develop materials on topics involving sound, hearing, and attentive listening. · Work collaboratively with scientists, educators, artists, exhibit developers, and media professionals on team-based projects. · Manage own projects, meet deadlines, and attend project team meetings. · Additional duties as assigned. QUALIFICATIONS: · Bachelors Degree. · Minimum 3 years experience in audio production and/or sound manipulation. · Background or strong interest in science, sound art/design, humanities, and public education. · Demonstrated proficiency in a variety of audio production tools and software, such as Peak and Pro Tools. Knowledge of MAX MSP plus at least one other signal processing package a plus. · Familiarity and demonstrated proficiency in state-of-the-art audio production software. · Demonstrated troubleshooting and technical problem-solving abilities. · Excellent communication and interpersonal skills, including ability to work collaboratively on project teams. · Knowledge of inquiry-based teaching strategies helpful. · Able to lift & carry up to 50 lbs for short distances, move from place to place, and use a computer terminal as well as basic office and shop equipment APPLICATION DEADLINE: Please submit on or by Tuesday, February 1, 2005. HOW TO APPLY: This is a fixed-term, full-time (37.5 hours per week), exempt, union (grade 20, step 1) position that pays $845.63 per week and includes benefits. This fixed-term position is to end on or before September 30, 2006. Qualified candidates available for less than full- time will be considered. Please indicate your preferred schedule in your application. Please apply by sending cover letter and resume to: Dept. CPE-1 Exploratorium, 3601 Lyon Street, San Francisco, CA 94123 Fax: (415) 561-0370 E-mail: xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx (attachments not accepted) No phone calls please The Exploratorium is committed to a diverse workforce Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/phonography/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: xxxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ -- derek holzer ::: http://www.umatic.nl ---Oblique Strategy # 36: "Consult other sources -promising -unpromising" --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? 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Fri Jan 28 22:29:41 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34211-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.112]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 28 Jan 2005 17:29:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 28 Jan 2005 17:29:40 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 5502 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 28 Jan 2005 22:29:34 +0000 Received: (qmail 5491 invoked from network); Fri, 28 Jan 2005 22:29:33 +0000 Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2005 14:29:29 -0800 (PST) From: Josh Ronsen <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Re: Ondes Martinot... 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See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=q9g+EhWv/rXBpgJhmHFftfNuZUtY6pyzw3AEwi5c8yTZOw9CoxFVmmnRmi/W/+YoMCuDbw8FNTrbWzVi2EMT6sAewwFH2K1LI6E/9RKhHc6pJdLmX44M228480aTUjovo7SnO6L7VrBOtmr77ZfUFUkCXpf5AcJpjM3GFPoBwno= ; X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx In 1937 Oliver Messiaen wrote a piece for 6 Ondes Martenots, "Fetes Des Belles Eaux." The library near to me has the score but not a recording of it. -Josh Ronsen in Austin, Texas __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! 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Fri Jan 28 22:13:31 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34210-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.113]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 28 Jan 2005 17:13:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 28 Jan 2005 17:13:30 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 104 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 28 Jan 2005 22:13:25 +0000 Received: (qmail 99991 invoked from network); Fri, 28 Jan 2005 22:13:24 +0000 Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2005 16:13:21 -0600 (CST) From: Mika Martini <xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Call for Works Ai-maako 2005 To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_qz+PxeG08sACINmwjnXgbg)" Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=qq7ecOLe/yQiJT0vbR3uUAYTTG2xlfPSznVoZ2EdkbOBl8h0FTuvmzCiTxMaYB4S6JdM4NZoaiHhwcacilpa02xfPB3v+IE4qbRNO/wUl3t9cJt4UHYA8lqO4sfvtN+yUwox/vsKJOmsku0+guiuGcjgdKIyV+uq0v4ci/ZufK8= ; X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_qz+PxeG08sACINmwjnXgbg) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit The Electroacoustical Chilean Community (CECh) has organised for the last four years the Electroacoustic music festival of Santiago de Chile, “Ai-maako”. The fifth edition of this festival will take place between the 17th and the 22nd of october 2005 in the concert hall of the Cultural Center of Spain. During the four years of existence of the festival more than 200 works by composers from diverse countries have been played. The CECh invites the electroacoustical community to participate in this festival. Musical works must be sent before the 30th of April 2005 (the post office stamp will be valid as a reference) to the following address: José Miguel Candela (CECh) Correo Villa La Reina Casilla 104 La Reina -Santiago de Chile Chile The works sent must fulfill the following conditions in order to be eligible: a) Acousmatical or tape pieces. Format: Audio CD, DAT or ADAT Technical notes or diff usion score, in case of multi-channel pieces. Pieces of a duration no longer than 10 minutes. Biography of the composer and programme notes. Spanish translations are welcome (paper and Word document) b) Mixed Pieces (depending on the organisers’ possibilities of available soloists): Works for soloist and electronics. Pieces of a duration no longer than 10 minutes. Format: Audio CD, DAT or ADAT. Technical notes or diffusion score, in case of multi-channel pieces. The instrumental score must be sent by regular or registered post. Demostration recording of the electronic part or of the piece as a whole. Biography of the composer and programme notes. Spanish translations are welcome (paper and Word document) xxxx@xxxx.xx / FRENCH AND SPANISH IN: http://www.cech.cl/Ai-maako_Call_2005.pdf ----> Greeting from Chile, Mika Martini. ------------------------------------------- [M!M] [SCL] [www.mikamartini.scd.cl] --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Todo lo que quieres saber de Estados Unidos, América Latina y el resto del Mundo. Visíta Yahoo! Noticias. --Boundary_(ID_qz+PxeG08sACINmwjnXgbg)-- From ???@??? Fri Jan 28 21:51:53 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34209-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.82]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 28 Jan 2005 16:51:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 28 Jan 2005 16:51:53 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 90867 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 28 Jan 2005 21:51:50 +0000 Received: (qmail 90857 invoked from network); Fri, 28 Jan 2005 21:51:50 +0000 Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2005 13:50:21 -0800 From: roberth <xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] bay area electro acoustic concert free To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <006801c50583$8b7b5ea0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 Content-type: text/plain; reply-type=response; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx THE CENTER FOR CONTEMPORARY MUSIC (CCM) at MILLS COLLEGE presents: SPRING 2005 SONGLINES SERIES: Symposia on Sound, Nature, Technology, and Performance MONDAY, January 31th 7:30 PM - Concert Hall Foyer and Ensemble Room Admission: FREE NICOLAS COLLINS An evening of electro-acoustic works and "hardware-hacked" instrumentation by CCM Composer-in-Residence Nic Collins and Mills student composers. Featured pieces by Collins include "Pea Soup," performed by local bassist George Cremaschi, and "The Talking Cure." Born and raised in New York, Mr. Collins studied composition with Alvin Lucier at Wesleyan University and worked for many years with legendary composer/instrumentalist David Tudor. As a composer he helped pioneer the use of microcomputers in live performance, and has made extensive use of "home-made" electronic circuitry, radio, found sound material, and transformed musical instruments. From 1992-1995 he was Artistic Director of Stichting STEIM (Amsterdam) and in 1996-1997 a DAAD composer-in-residence in Berlin. In 1999 he joined the faculty of the School of the Art Institute of Chicago as the chair of the sound department. for more information contact: John Bischoff, CCM Studios Coordinator 510-430-2331 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? 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Fri Jan 28 19:54:35 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34205-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.109]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 28 Jan 2005 14:54:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 28 Jan 2005 14:54:35 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 28227 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 28 Jan 2005 19:54:30 +0000 Received: (qmail 28210 invoked from network); Fri, 28 Jan 2005 19:54:30 +0000 Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2005 12:54:27 -0700 From: Dan Heidebrecht <xxx.xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Quantum Whistles - Superfluid helium-4 whistles just the right tune To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: Dan Heidebrecht <xxx.xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=huHXhjQAsOtnYYtXAZg8cfUv+q8JX3tzSKwZw3TVRzmsFYh+nj1TLxuIkuU9GVIcLdUZzHzJ/4GcQY3H9TNHMqHyYyAvi7ndOKrM2UpGftNJJCcPCFPMqqL3zkaX9d1mVfeVtI0lXaSV72UF4tdzHZSr+0DmIDIoL9EXmn0SxgY= X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx If you just want to listen: http://www.berkeley.edu/news/media/releases/2005/01/images/He4QuantumWhistle.wav Superfluid helium-4 whistles just the right tune By Robert Sanders, Media Relations | 27 January 2005 BERKELEY – University of California, Berkeley, physicists can now tune in to and hear normally inaudible quantum vibrations, called quantum whistles, enabling them to build very sensitive detectors of rotation or very precise gyroscopes. Quantum whistle Hear the synchronized vibrations from a chorus of more than 4,000 nano-whistles, created when physicists pushed superfluid helium-4 though an array of nanometer-sized holes. Note that the pitch drops as the pressure drops. A quantum whistle is a peculiar characteristic of supercold condensed fluids, in this case superfluid helium-4, which vibrate when you try to push them through a tiny hole. Richard Packard, professor of physics at UC Berkeley, and graduate student Emile Hoskinson knew that many other researchers had failed to produce a quantum whistle by pushing helium-4 through a tiny aperture, which must be no bigger than a few tens of nanometers across - the size of the smallest viruses and about 1,000 times smaller than the diameter of a human hair. To their surprise, however, a chorus of thousands of nano-whistles produced a wail loud enough to hear. This is the first demonstration of whistling in superfluid helium-4. According to Packard and Hoskinson, the purity of the tone may lead to the development of rotation sensors that are sufficiently sensitive to be used for Earth science, seismology and inertial navigation. "You could measure rotational signals from an earthquake or build more precise gyroscopes for submarines," Packard speculated. Four years ago, Packard and his coworkers built and successfully tested a gyroscope based on quantum whistling in superfluid helium-3. But that required cooling the device to a few thousandths of a degree above absolute zero, a highly specialized and time-consuming process. Because the new phenomenon exists at 2 Kelvin - a temperature achievable with off-the-shelf cryo-coolers - the proposed sensors also will be user-friendly to scientists unfamiliar with cryogenic technology. A temperature of 2 Kelvin is the equivalent of minus 456 degrees Fahrenheit. "Because these oscillations appear in helium-4 at a temperature 2,000 times higher than in superfluid helium-3, it may be possible to build sensitive rotation sensors using much simpler technology than previously believed," the researchers wrote in a brief communication appearing in the Jan 27 issue of the journal Nature. Packard noted that sensitive rotation or spin detectors could have application in numerous fields, from geodesy, which charts changes in the spin and wobble of the Earth, to navigation, where gyroscopes are used to guide ships. Though little is now know about the rotational signals from earthquakes, having a sensitive rotation detector might reveal new and interesting phenomena. Quantum whistling is analogous to a phenomenon in another macroscopic quantum system, a superconductor, which develops an oscillating current when a voltage is applied across a non-conducting gap. Nobel Laureates Philip Anderson, Brian Josephson and Richard Feynman predicted in 1962 that the same would happen in superfluids. In the case of superfluids, however, a pressure difference across a tiny hole would cause a vibration in the superfluid at a frequency - the Josephson frequency - that increases as the pressure increases. The fact that the fluid oscillates back and forth through the hole rather than flows from the high-pressure side to the low-pressure side, as a normal liquid would, is one of the many weird aspects of quantum systems like superfluids. Eight years ago, Packard and fellow UC Berkeley physicist Seamus Davis, now at Cornell University, heard such vibrations when pushing superfluid helium-3 through a similar array of 4,225 holes, each 100 nanometers across. Though no simple feat - it took them 10 years to make their experiment whistle, working at one thousandth of a degree Kelvin - it's theoretically easier than with helium-4. For helium-4 to whistle, physicists predicted that the holes either had to be much smaller, pushing the limits of today's technology, or the temperature had to be within a few hundred thousandths of a degree of the temperature at which helium-4 becomes a superfluid, that is, 2 Kelvin. While working with an array of holes 70 nanometers across, essentially testing the apparatus with helium-4 before using it to conduct a helium-3 experiment, Hoskinson was surprised when he put on earphones and heard the characteristic pennywhistle sound as the pitch dropped with the pressure in the device. "Predictions on where the Josephson oscillations would occur put them much closer to the transition temperature than I could hope to go," Hoskinson said. "The fact that I could detect the oscillations with the set-up I had was amazing in itself, and something we're very interested in exploring." He and Packard calculated that the tones were due to a different mechanism, phase slippage, than that producing the whistle in helium-3, though it follows the same relationship between frequency and driving pressure. Phase slippage shouldn't have produced a pure tone at all. The vibrations at the holes should shift randomly and get lost in the noise. Even if phase slippage did produce a constant tone in a single hole, the whistles from the array of 4,225 holes should have been out of phase and the resulting sound less than 100 times louder than that from a single hole. Apparently, Packard said, the vibrating holes somehow achieved synchrony, like crickets chirping in unison on a summer evening, amplifying the sound 4,000 times higher - loud enough to be heard above the background noise of the experiment. "For 40 years, people have been trying to see something like this, but it has always been with single apertures," Hoskinson said. "Maybe it's true that you don't get coherent oscillations with a single aperture, but somehow, with an array of apertures, the noise is suppressed and you hear a coherent whistle." "There was no reason to expect that. I still think it's amazing," Packard added. The research by Packard, Hoskinson and post-doctoral fellow Thomas Haard is supported by the National Science Foundation and by the National Aeronautics and Space Administration. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Jan 28 19:36:00 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34204-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 28 Jan 2005 14:36:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from gx2.optonline.net (gx2.optonline.net [167.206.112.44]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 28 Jan 2005 14:36:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org ([209.237.226.90]) by gx2.optonline.net (InterMail vG.1.00.00.00 201-2136-104-20040331) with SMTP id <20050128193552.TIJQ3617.gx2.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> for <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>; Fri, 28 Jan 2005 14:35:52 -0500 Received: (qmail 22047 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 28 Jan 2005 19:35:49 +0000 Received: (qmail 22036 invoked from network); Fri, 28 Jan 2005 19:35:49 +0000 Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2005 14:35:39 -0500 (EST) From: xxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re:=20[microsound]=A0=20ezmlm=20warning?= To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Thunderbird - Mac OS X sub 207 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_vH+NAkRPLV9Cac/OYAKLdA)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_vH+NAkRPLV9Cac/OYAKLdA) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/28/05 1:51:29 PM, xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx writes: > anybody else getting these for no reason right now? > I get them sporadically from all my hyperreal.org lists. 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Fri Jan 28 19:23:07 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34203-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 28 Jan 2005 14:23:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 28 Jan 2005 14:23:06 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 17032 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 28 Jan 2005 19:23:03 +0000 Received: (qmail 17021 invoked from network); Fri, 28 Jan 2005 19:23:03 +0000 Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2005 14:26:59 -0500 From: graham miller <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] [OT] question about New Yorker article on ice To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73C-SYMPA (Macintosh; U; PPC) Content-type: text/plain; x-mac-creator=4D4F5353; x-mac-type=54455854; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en,fr-CA Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <r02010400-1035-1942544E715711D992BD000D932C0D78@[67.84.254.108]> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx "if you can think of a better way to get ice, i'd like to hear it" apu, the simpsons vze26m98 wrote: > Glenn Bach wrote on 1/28/05: > > >A very off-topic question: I'm looking for an article that appeared a > >few months/years ago in _The New Yorker_ about contemporary > >manufacturing and distribution of ice, particulary the competition > >among several entrepreneurs for the title of "Ice King." > > Is this what you're looking for? It's a review from the April 21, 2003 > issue of the New Yorker. More general searches for "ice" and "king" > didn't turn up much... > > "The Frozen-Water Trade, by Gavin Weightman (Hyperion; $23.95). The idea > sounds fanciful: harvest ice in Massachusetts and sell it to people in > the tropics. But the nineteenth-century entrepreneur Frederic Tudor was > immune to ridicule and single-minded in his conviction that the ice > trade could be profitable. He was also right. This entertaining history > of his crusade to turn New England into the world's ice-maker shows how > the combination of technological innovation and sharp marketing-Tudor > trained bartenders to use ice in cocktails in order to illustrate the > virtues of cold drinks-created an industry that sold thousands of tons > of ice a year to places like India, Cuba, and the American South. As a > case study of the entrepreneurial mind, Weightman's book reminds us that > creating demand can be as important as meeting it." > > Best, > > <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? 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See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=IHhxRHCQ5ySMBlziNZDtHophV/SxH78PfT+s3q9yFhZkmyZn+uLgXjBzW4zRYyH1Hb4VxCmVHEmB8tsHFFcsvReZndpzoH8Qj5wOMoaZe0ZzUZpGXf3G+MQ9bfY3v6bjto72xvIh8GQ5yPYlS6sM2+o9peNARP9dX9fLvdzaz7Y= ; X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx anybody else getting these for no reason right now? I've been getting them every so often, though there is no reason why microsound should be bouncing from my email account since nothing else is and I have plenty of space. ideas? jorge __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! 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Fri Jan 28 18:16:21 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34200-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 28 Jan 2005 13:16:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 28 Jan 2005 13:16:21 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 85348 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 28 Jan 2005 18:16:16 +0000 Received: (qmail 85335 invoked from network); Fri, 28 Jan 2005 18:16:16 +0000 Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2005 13:16:17 -0500 From: John Nowak <xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] In the Defense of Max (was: development environment) In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - jet16.hasweb.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - hyperreal.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - johnnowak.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <r02010400-1035-B8C36799708311D99387000D932C0D78@[67.84.254.108]> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxx.xxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx On Jan 28, 2005, at 10:33 AM, Michal Seta wrote: > PD has the same right-to-left principle. The ambiguities arise in > situations where there are several patch chords originating at the same > outlet. Right. > Regardless > of theoretical premise of the right-to-left principle, taking the > necessary steps to enforce the order in a crucial situation is simply > good practice. Treatment with the slightest bit of care :) I agree here for the most part. On occasion though I'm lazy, and for code I'm likely to never edit again, I like being able to knock it out without trigger objects. ;-) > I do agree with the fact that (visual) dataflow languages don't scale > well. Regardless of how well you encapsulate and abstract, large > projects are not easy to manage. However, I don't follow Max > development and I haven't been near it in years, maybe it makes it > easier now. I speak from a point of view of a PD user. I find that keeping a notebook (virtually or otherwise), or liberally commenting, is necessary for big projects. It can really help sometimes. - John --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Jan 28 18:05:20 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34199-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 28 Jan 2005 13:05:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from gx2.optonline.net (gx2.optonline.net [167.206.112.44]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 28 Jan 2005 13:05:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org ([209.237.226.90]) by gx2.optonline.net (InterMail vG.1.00.00.00 201-2136-104-20040331) with SMTP id <20050128180512.OVEH3617.gx2.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> for <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>; Fri, 28 Jan 2005 13:05:12 -0500 Received: (qmail 76043 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 28 Jan 2005 18:04:52 +0000 Received: (qmail 76022 invoked from network); Fri, 28 Jan 2005 18:04:52 +0000 Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2005 13:04:47 -0500 From: vze26m98 <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] [OT] question about New Yorker article on ice In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <r02010400-1035-1942544E715711D992BD000D932C0D78@[67.84.254.108]> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mailsmith 2.1.4 (Blindsider) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Glenn Bach wrote on 1/28/05: >A very off-topic question: I'm looking for an article that appeared a >few months/years ago in _The New Yorker_ about contemporary >manufacturing and distribution of ice, particulary the competition >among several entrepreneurs for the title of "Ice King." Is this what you're looking for? It's a review from the April 21, 2003 issue of the New Yorker. More general searches for "ice" and "king" didn't turn up much... "The Frozen-Water Trade, by Gavin Weightman (Hyperion; $23.95). The idea sounds fanciful: harvest ice in Massachusetts and sell it to people in the tropics. But the nineteenth-century entrepreneur Frederic Tudor was immune to ridicule and single-minded in his conviction that the ice trade could be profitable. He was also right. This entertaining history of his crusade to turn New England into the world's ice-maker shows how the combination of technological innovation and sharp marketing-Tudor trained bartenders to use ice in cocktails in order to illustrate the virtues of cold drinks-created an industry that sold thousands of tons of ice a year to places like India, Cuba, and the American South. As a case study of the entrepreneurial mind, Weightman's book reminds us that creating demand can be as important as meeting it." Best, <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Jan 28 17:24:25 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34198-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 28 Jan 2005 12:24:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 28 Jan 2005 12:24:24 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 52456 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 28 Jan 2005 17:24:10 +0000 Received: (qmail 52446 invoked from network); Fri, 28 Jan 2005 17:24:10 +0000 Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2005 12:24:08 -0500 From: billy <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] radio. In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx hi list! i fought the post-blizzard down to the radio last night and performed for an hour. solo, i don't know if i'll try that marathon again soon, but hear the music here http://www.bsrlive.com/archives/playlist.php?p=1813 mono, and at 128k microphone, bells, melodica, casio sk-8, max/msp, max/msp problems.... b. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Jan 28 17:16:31 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34197-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 28 Jan 2005 12:16:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 28 Jan 2005 12:16:31 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 48212 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 28 Jan 2005 17:16:25 +0000 Received: (qmail 48202 invoked from network); Fri, 28 Jan 2005 17:16:25 +0000 Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2005 09:18:34 -0800 From: Glenn Bach <xxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] [OT] question about New Yorker article on ice To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro CLI mailer Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.0.2) Gecko/20030208 Netscape/7.02 X-CSULB-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the Helpdesk for more information X-CSULB-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-CSULB-MailScanner-SpamCheck: X-MailScanner-From: xxxxx@xxxxx.xxx X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Hey, all. A very off-topic question: I'm looking for an article that appeared a few months/years ago in _The New Yorker_ about contemporary manufacturing and distribution of ice, particulary the competition among several entrepreneurs for the title of "Ice King." (?) Does this ring a bell? I've tried googling, library searches, etc. Anyone know of this article, or if there is an index of New Yorker articles online somewhere? Any replies off-list would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, G. P.S. It may have appeared in Harper's, but I'm 80% sure it was The New Yorker . . . The New Yorker website doesn't allow you to search their archives . . . --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Jan 28 17:11:13 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34196-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.109]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 28 Jan 2005 12:11:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 28 Jan 2005 12:11:13 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 43875 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 28 Jan 2005 17:11:07 +0000 Received: (qmail 43864 invoked from network); Fri, 28 Jan 2005 17:11:06 +0000 Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2005 09:11:06 -0800 (PST) From: xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx Subject: [microsound] mpls : 2/1/05 : every other tuesday : bryce beverlin ii + john davis, abinadi meza, bill lang + brock davis + alden ikeda In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxx.xx.xxx.xxx.xxx.xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Hostbaby Webmail X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Every Other Tuesday Experimental / improvised performance at Acadia Tuesday February 1st, 2005 1st set : John Davis: bass, Bryce Beverlin II : drums The town continually searches for new ways to dispose of waste in a sound, environmentally safe manner. To that end, the town operates a comprehensive, curbside recycling program, removing from the waste stream those items which can be successfully recycled. In considering the environmental hazards posed by certain household chemicals, the town implemented a program called S.T.O.P. (Stop Throwing Out Pollutants). This program takes ordinary household chemicals such as cleaning sprays, paints, etc. and disposes of them in a way that safeguards our environment. The town holds 10 "S.T.O.P. DAYS" a year at various locations around the town. Look for one in your community. 2nd set : Abinadi Meza : laptop Meza is a sound artist and visual artist who creates soundscapes from original field recordings and sound from film. Recently returned from performing a radio/ installation piece in Stockholm, Sweden, Meza will also will perform in the upcoming Spark Festival of Electronic Music and Art in Minneapolis this February. More info: http://www.abinadimeza.net Meza will present a laptop performance this Tuesday at the Acadia, improvising a soundscape from various sources including field recordings and other found audio. 3rd set: Bill Lang : tenor saxophone, Alden Ikeda : drums and eklectronics Lang and Ikeda have been performing improvised music off on with each for the past 20 years. The roots of it seem to get deeper and darker, like some kind of weird plant. Acadia Cabaret Theater 1931 nicollet avenue south (corner of nicollet & franklin) Minneapolis MN 8 pm door-- music at 8:20 $3 -- all ages http://www.acadiacafe.com The Acadia's been a smoke-free venue since before it was hip. The cafe next door serves food and beverages (including wine and beer), which patrons are permitted to take into the theater with them. The acadia closes at 11 pm, so performances must be over by then. The show usually wraps up well before, so it's a pretty early night for a Tuesday. View the schedule online: http://tcmusic.net/musicianschedule1449.html To hear mp3s of performances from E.O.T. and related events in Minneapolis St Paul, drop by the Earliest Convenience page: http://www.juniorbirdman.com/earliestconvenience For further discussion and promotion of experimental and improvised music in the twin cities, join the tc experimental music yahoogroup at http://yahoogroups.com/group/tc_experimental_music Enjoy! Mike Hallenbeck Cruise director Every Other Tuesday series --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Jan 28 16:17:05 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34195-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.113]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 28 Jan 2005 11:17:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 28 Jan 2005 11:17:05 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 99397 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 28 Jan 2005 16:17:01 +0000 Received: (qmail 99387 invoked from network); Fri, 28 Jan 2005 16:17:01 +0000 Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2005 11:31:30 -0500 From: john saylor <xx@xxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] [OT] Firewall In-reply-to: <002401c50553$62c21c40$xxxxxxxx@xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <002401c50553$62c21c40$xxxxxxxx@xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx hi ( 05.01.28 17:06 +0100 ) Noisejihad: > Can anybody recommend a good, free firewall for windoze? http://gentoo.org/ http://openbsd.org/ [if you're really paranoid] but to install, you'd need to wipe windoze, or put another machine on the network in front of it. it might be easier to buy one of those linksys router-firewall things. -- \js http://or8.net/~johns ;`^+{"-&= '>> ^ iraq body count: 15,495 [min] 17,723 [max] --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Jan 28 16:05:43 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34194-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 28 Jan 2005 11:05:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 28 Jan 2005 11:05:43 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 86597 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 28 Jan 2005 16:05:26 +0000 Received: (qmail 86582 invoked from network); Fri, 28 Jan 2005 16:05:25 +0000 Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2005 17:06:54 +0100 From: Noisejihad <xxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] [OT] Firewall To: List Microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <002401c50553$62c21c40$xxxxxxxx@xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_ieU2FLIsmfici0+j/fCujA)" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_ieU2FLIsmfici0+j/fCujA) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Can anybody recommend a good, free firewall for windoze? -Lars IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII Next: Electrical Bonding on Desolation House >>> www.desolationhouse.com Now: Uncomfortable Positions - mp3-ep on Fukk God >>> www.fukkgod.org key to knowledge on danish noise >>> www.noisejihad.dk art >>> www.ideations.dk www.waldchengarten.dk --Boundary_(ID_ieU2FLIsmfici0+j/fCujA)-- From ???@??? Fri Jan 28 15:27:16 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34193-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 28 Jan 2005 10:27:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 28 Jan 2005 10:27:16 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 59442 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 28 Jan 2005 15:27:11 +0000 Received: (qmail 59430 invoked from network); Fri, 28 Jan 2005 15:27:11 +0000 Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2005 10:33:45 -0500 From: Michal Seta <xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] In the Defense of Max (was: development environment) In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Scanned-By: milter-spamc/0.25.320 (mx2.b2b2c.ca [66.158.128.214]); Fri, 28 Jan 2005 10:27:08 -0500 X-Spam-Status: NO, hits=-5.90 required=7.00 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Lines: 37 References: <r02010400-1035-B8C36799708311D99387000D932C0D78@[67.84.254.108]> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx John Nowak <xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> writes: > I much prefer this method to that of Pd. At least in Max, I can look > and see exactly what will happen. In Pd, which resolves ambiguity via > order of object creation, I haven't the slightest clue what will > happen when looking at it. The right-to-left nature of Max often makes > code easier to read, saves time, and if treated with the slightest bit > of care, never causes any issues. PD has the same right-to-left principle. The ambiguities arise in situations where there are several patch chords originating at the same outlet. I have run into ordering ambiguities problems with Max in the past (note that it might have gotten much better in the past 4-6 years) and order forcing/ensuring I learned with Max, in fact. Regardless of theoretical premise of the right-to-left principle, taking the necessary steps to enforce the order in a crucial situation is simply good practice. Treatment with the slightest bit of care :) > > On the > negative side, as many people have mentioned, it doesn't scale > well; large programs tend to become heaps of spaghetti unless > one spends inordinate amounts of time laying them out. > > Again, if you encapsulate properly, you should, generally speaking, > never have more than 20 or so objects visible in any one patch. I > rarely, if ever do. Hardly a mess. I do agree with the fact that (visual) dataflow languages don't scale well. Regardless of how well you encapsulate and abstract, large projects are not easy to manage. However, I don't follow Max development and I haven't been near it in years, maybe it makes it easier now. I speak from a point of view of a PD user. I do agree, however, that 'heaps of spaghetti' whether laid out or not are bad programming habit. ../MiS --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? 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Fri Jan 28 13:38:10 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34191-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 28 Jan 2005 08:38:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from gx2.optonline.net (gx2.optonline.net [167.206.112.44]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 28 Jan 2005 08:38:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org ([209.237.226.90]) by gx2.optonline.net (InterMail vG.1.00.00.00 201-2136-104-20040331) with SMTP id <20050128133802.VGH3617.gx2.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> for <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>; Fri, 28 Jan 2005 08:38:02 -0500 Received: (qmail 8057 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 28 Jan 2005 13:38:01 +0000 Received: (qmail 8047 invoked from network); Fri, 28 Jan 2005 13:38:01 +0000 Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2005 08:37:58 -0500 From: vze26m98 <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] [ot] development environment In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <r02010400-1035-D32E9CDD713111D98ED6000D932C0D78@[67.84.254.108]> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mailsmith 2.1.4 (Blindsider) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Michal Seta wrote on 1/27/05: >Not that I have something against Mr Dannenberg but the definition on >wikipedia (if one can consider it a reliable resource) is a little >more general than Mr Dannenberg's pedantic categorization. >> >operations. Dataflow languages share some features of functional >> >languages, and were generally developed in order to bring some >> >functional concepts to a language more suitable for numeric >> >processing." Michael- Please explain to me what's more "general" about the Wikipedia definition. Saying that data-flow languages partake of functional concepts seems pretty specific to me. Best, <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Jan 28 06:51:06 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34190-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 28 Jan 2005 01:51:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from gx2.optonline.net (gx2.optonline.net [167.206.112.44]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 28 Jan 2005 01:51:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org ([209.237.226.90]) by gx2.optonline.net (InterMail vG.1.00.00.00 201-2136-104-20040331) with SMTP id <20050128065059.LUFB3617.gx2.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> for <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>; Fri, 28 Jan 2005 01:50:59 -0500 Received: (qmail 37357 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 28 Jan 2005 06:50:56 +0000 Received: (qmail 37346 invoked from network); Fri, 28 Jan 2005 06:50:55 +0000 Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2005 01:50:55 -0500 From: John Nowak <xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] In the Defense of Max (was: development environment) In-reply-to: <r02010400-1035-B8C36799708311D99387000D932C0D78@[67.84.254.108]> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - jet16.hasweb.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - hyperreal.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - johnnowak.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <r02010400-1035-B8C36799708311D99387000D932C0D78@[67.84.254.108]> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx On Jan 27, 2005, at 11:51 AM, vze26m98 wrote: > I think there's some debate as to whether Max/MSP/Pure Data qualifies > as > a data-flow language: > > "The term "data-flow" is not a good description of Max except for the > intuition. Data-flow computers and languages are based on the idea that > (parallel) computations can be synchronized by data. For example, an > addition operator would wait for its two operands before adding them. > Note that this is not at all how Max works. This is not how Max objects work by default. However, you can certainly implement abstractions that work this way. I have a "syncro" abstraction which works similar to the one in Prograph in that it waits until both inlets have data available, and then forwards the data ahead. Regardless, I'm not aware that this is critical for classifying something as a dataflow language. > I will not argue that Max should work this way, I'm quite glad it doesn't actually. > but since it doesn't, one should not call it a > data-flow language. I think "patch language" or "visual programming > language" are better terms. Unfortunately, the former will make no sense to someone who isn't familiar with Pd/Max, and the latter is too generalized to impart any real meaning. > For the rest try: > <http://cf.hum.uva.nl/mmm/papers/dh-93-b.txt> I've read this before, and I feel compelled to write a "The Mins of the Mins of Max" paper. Many of the arguments given are just utter nonsense. Here we go, briefly: - - - > The term "data-flow" is not a good description of Max except for the intuition. This is of course debatable, or at least, this list doesn't agree upon that. > I would add that, despite statements in the manuals and documentation, Max is not an object-oriented language. I assume things were different before, but now Max is only referred to (correctly) as an object-based language. All of the nonsense attached to the definition OO languages is unfortunate in my opinion. I'd prefer a term that's less misleading, but oh well. That said, it is a good thing that Max is not a true OO language for a number of reasons I don't want to get into here. > To me, Max seems to be an imperative language based on timed streams of values flowing through a static network of objects. Again, perhaps this came about after this was written, but Max does not require you to have a static network. Building networks that reconnect themselves, replace parts of themselves, etc, is entirely possible. > Max is claimed to be a music system or musical language, but the only idea of music that Max has is in the (unnecessarily) low-level form of MIDI messages. It does not provide primitives (e.g., notes, chords or ornaments), or control structures (e.g., repeat or slow down) Thank god. > Computation time becomes involved in the problem of timing; if one datum needs a bit more computation than another, it will arrive later at the point at which they are combined. This can break the algorithm, forcing the user to rely on the work- arounds provided (a special re-synchronizing module). If you program in such a way that two parts of a program are racing each other, this is unavoidable. And even then, output from the two competing processes can be easily synced later. > "Even if an algorithm works well, a tiny change ... may break it." Not only do I not understand where this claim comes from, but hell, Max is much harder to mess up than most any textual programming language. Miss some whitespace in Python, and it all goes to hell. Forget a semicolon in C, and you're not going anywhere. Etc. > in the Opcode version of Max, there is a potentially confusing and dangerous mechanism that acts automatically on ambiguities in order; graphic positioning of connections between objects on the screen will determine the message- passing order between these objects. I much prefer this method to that of Pd. At least in Max, I can look and see exactly what will happen. In Pd, which resolves ambiguity via order of object creation, I haven't the slightest clue what will happen when looking at it. The right-to-left nature of Max often makes code easier to read, saves time, and if treated with the slightest bit of care, never causes any issues. > But one has to keep in mind that not all abstractions can be expressed well graphically. Nested loops, variables, references, match patterns, computation history, and recursion are among the constructs with which the conversational mode, in the form of a formal language, can deal much better. Well of course a dataflow language (or whatever you want to call it) will not let you directly translate code written for a traditional control flow language. That said, it is still very easy to implement things like recursion in Max, and the segmented patch cord that loops back make it very easy to spot. Computations can be stored if desired. Even global variables are possible to emulate in a naturally reusable way. I have the abstractions to prove it. You simply send a message via a send object to a receive which talks to the variable. The message you send contains a pointer (yes, I'm using the term loosely) back to a receive where the message was sent from. The receive at the variable holding object (be it an int, float, whatever) sets a forward to send to the receive that is being pointed to, and then sends the data to the forward object. You can abstract it as such that you just store your data in a "variable" object, and then access it whenever you want via a "getvariable" object. Of course to change the value in the variable, you'd just send data to a send object with the variable name as an argument. The point is though, I've only had to do this once in my history of Max programming, and this was for a very unique situation. If you find yourself wanting to use variables all the time in Max, you're thinking in a control flow way, not a dataflow way. > Max supports further extensibility in the form of procedures written in the C language, instead of the ability to abstract from the primitives in the language itself. This is just false -- perhaps it was different 12 years ago. > Furthermore, because Max is advertised as a language with an object-oriented flavor, one would expect a versatile system of data types (classes) and polymorphic modules (objects), which adapt their processing to the type of incoming data and their own identity. Max uses a system similar to prototypes, which has been proved to be approximately functionally equivalent to classes, except that with prototypes you don't have to waste your time making classes for one-off objects, etc. Many fully-featured textual OO languages (Self, Javascript, Rebol, etc) let you work just fine without any classes. http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?PrototypeBasedProgramming > Instead the neat old-fashioned block diagrams [e.g., of Music V-style instruments] that we used to see in articles (e.g., in the older ICMC proceedings), now awkward looking Max patches are often presented-no different symbols for modules, no different line types for different signal types, and a mess of wires. Even if the latter can be cleaned up, users often have to spend more time cleaning up the patch than creating it because the graphical editor does not support state-of-the-art consistency maintenance when moving modules, multiple moves etc. This is simply not true in the case of a decent Max programmer who understands the importance of encapsulation. While Max could use some things to speed graphical building (a clean up command a la Pd, a key command for new objects), generally the graphical nature encourages far more productivity than it wastes time. > On the negative side, as many people have mentioned, it doesn't scale well; large programs tend to become heaps of spaghetti unless one spends inordinate amounts of time laying them out. Again, if you encapsulate properly, you should, generally speaking, never have more than 20 or so objects visible in any one patch. I rarely, if ever do. Hardly a mess. > I would like to be able to click on a "code" object and have a window with editable C open up. Such a thing is now possible via the js and maxlisp objects. - - - Alright, I realize I just provided a rebuttal for something that's 12 year old, and things have changed since then, but if people are going to continue citing it then I suppose it won't hurt if I procrastinate my Max building and write this instead. Okay, back to work. - John --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Jan 28 06:34:41 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34189-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 28 Jan 2005 01:34:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 28 Jan 2005 01:34:41 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 32284 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 28 Jan 2005 06:34:38 +0000 Received: (qmail 32272 invoked from network); Fri, 28 Jan 2005 06:34:37 +0000 Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2005 01:34:28 -0500 From: earphone <xxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] call for works : earphone music To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20040701 (2.0) at filter02.roc.ny.frontiernet.net X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx greetings, earphone music, invites you to submit a track for inclusion on our first compilation cd entitled: earphone 01. earphone music's goal is to document new electronic sound works that are either software or hardware derived. the area of our interest is in the genres of: microsound, lowercase, or something that loosely fits in within those terms. the scheduled date of release is: april 2005, so please have works to us by, march 1st 2005. we are also interested in artwork and/or a design for the cover. > guidelines: 1. please try to keep tracks under 5 minutes so we can have at least 14 artists on the cd. 2. you may submit more than one track, but only one will be on the "earphone 01" compilation. 3. you can submits tracks in any format you wish as long as the file specs are at least, 44.1kHz @ 16bits, you can submit audio files on cd, if you prefer. > what you get: 1. to be part of an ongoing series of documents of electronic music. 2. you will receive 10 copies of the CD that includes your track, a biography with links on our site, etc. 3. our unending appreciation for sharing your work. > where to send: m.mcnulty 620 park ave #319 rochester, ny 14607 u.s. if you have questions please e-mail: xxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx thank you, marc --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Jan 28 06:10:34 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34188-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.83]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 28 Jan 2005 01:10:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 28 Jan 2005 01:10:34 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 25516 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 28 Jan 2005 06:10:34 +0000 Received: (qmail 25504 invoked from network); Fri, 28 Jan 2005 06:10:33 +0000 Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2005 01:10:30 -0500 From: John Nowak <xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] [ot] development environment In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - jet16.hasweb.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - hyperreal.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - johnnowak.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxx.xxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx On Jan 27, 2005, at 8:28 PM, Michal Seta wrote: > John Nowak <xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> writes: > >> In summary, Pd will be your new god, and dataflow programming will be >> your new religion. Convert immediately. > > and to become a true follower and experience some serious community > brainwashing, by all means join #dataflow channel on irc.freenode.org. > You will even be allowed to talk about any other dataflow type > programming languages if you feel inclined. I've been meaning to do this, but I've been having trouble connecting from my dorm's network. I'll go kick some administrator ass or something. > Better even, there will be developers meetings on the channel in a > very near future so you may even get a chance to voice your opinion. > See you there. Lovely! - John --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Jan 28 04:42:09 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34187-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.83]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 27 Jan 2005 23:42:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 27 Jan 2005 23:42:09 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 98606 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 28 Jan 2005 04:42:06 +0000 Received: (qmail 98595 invoked from network); Fri, 28 Jan 2005 04:42:05 +0000 Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 23:48:34 -0500 From: Michal Seta <xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] [ot] development environment In-reply-to: <r02010400-1035-5D33D70F70DA11D99387000D932C0D78@[67.84.254.108]> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Scanned-By: milter-spamc/0.25.320 (mx2.b2b2c.ca [66.158.128.214]); Thu, 27 Jan 2005 23:42:00 -0500 X-Spam-Status: NO, hits=-5.90 required=7.00 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Lines: 37 References: <r02010400-1035-5D33D70F70DA11D99387000D932C0D78@[67.84.254.108]> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx vze26m98 <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> writes: > Michal Seta wrote on 1/27/05: > > >"In computer programming, dataflow languages are a class of > >programming languages that model the program, conceptually if not > >physically, as a directed graph of the data flowing between > >operations. Dataflow languages share some features of functional > >languages, and were generally developed in order to bring some > >functional concepts to a language more suitable for numeric > >processing." > > > >Perhaps some definitions have changed since 1993. > > Michael- > > I don't see how your quote supports an argument for a changed definition > of data-flow languages. This seems like a classic definition of > data-flow and one that Dannenberg wouldn't disagree with either. ok, sorry, I snipped too much of the Dannenberg quote. Relevant portion included below for your convenience. "The term "data-flow" is not a good description of Max except for the intuition. Data-flow computers and languages are based on the idea that (parallel) computations can be synchronized by data. For example, an addition operator would wait for its two operands before adding them. Note that this is not at all how Max works. I will not argue that Max should work this way, but since it doesn't, one should not call it a data-flow language. I think "patch language" or "visual programming language" are better terms." Not that I have something against Mr Dannenberg but the definition on wikipedia (if one can consider it a reliable resource) is a little more general than Mr Dannenberg's pedantic categorization. ../MiS --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Jan 28 03:12:04 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34186-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.109]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 27 Jan 2005 22:12:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 27 Jan 2005 22:12:04 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 62501 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 28 Jan 2005 03:12:01 +0000 Received: (qmail 62490 invoked from network); Fri, 28 Jan 2005 03:12:00 +0000 Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 22:11:54 -0500 From: vze26m98 <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] [ot] development environment In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <r02010400-1035-5D33D70F70DA11D99387000D932C0D78@[67.84.254.108]> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mailsmith 2.1.4 (Blindsider) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Michal Seta wrote on 1/27/05: >"In computer programming, dataflow languages are a class of >programming languages that model the program, conceptually if not >physically, as a directed graph of the data flowing between >operations. Dataflow languages share some features of functional >languages, and were generally developed in order to bring some >functional concepts to a language more suitable for numeric >processing." > >Perhaps some definitions have changed since 1993. Michael- I don't see how your quote supports an argument for a changed definition of data-flow languages. This seems like a classic definition of data-flow and one that Dannenberg wouldn't disagree with either. Best, <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Jan 28 02:16:31 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34185-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.83]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 27 Jan 2005 21:16:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 27 Jan 2005 21:16:31 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 42431 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 28 Jan 2005 02:16:26 +0000 Received: (qmail 42421 invoked from network); Fri, 28 Jan 2005 02:16:26 +0000 Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 21:16:21 -0500 (GMT-05:00) From: colin <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] EM videos To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: colin <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Earthlink Zoo Mail 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx only saw 'drive' so far .. .. but i liked it!! -----Original Message----- From: Joao Duarte <xx.xxx.xxx@xxxxxxx.xx> Sent: Jan 27, 2005 1:58 PM To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] EM videos Here are some nice EM video clips for your enjoyment: http://www.geocities.com/pygar_pygar/index.html Have fun! http://pwp.netcabo.pt/op.cab.pol/index.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Jan 28 01:33:32 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34184-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 27 Jan 2005 20:33:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 27 Jan 2005 20:33:32 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 25144 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 28 Jan 2005 01:33:30 +0000 Received: (qmail 25132 invoked from network); Fri, 28 Jan 2005 01:33:28 +0000 Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 20:39:55 -0500 From: Michal Seta <xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] [ot] development environment In-reply-to: <r02010400-1035-B8C36799708311D99387000D932C0D78@[67.84.254.108]> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Scanned-By: milter-spamc/0.25.320 (mx1.b2b2c.ca [66.158.128.213]); Thu, 27 Jan 2005 20:33:24 -0500 X-Spam-Status: NO, hits=-5.90 required=7.00 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Lines: 24 References: <r02010400-1035-B8C36799708311D99387000D932C0D78@[67.84.254.108]> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx vze26m98 <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> writes: > I think there's some debate as to whether Max/MSP/Pure Data qualifies as > a data-flow language: > > "The term "data-flow" is not a good description of Max except for the > intuition. Data-flow computers and languages are based on the idea that > (parallel) computations can be synchronized by data. For example, an [..snip..] "In computer programming, dataflow languages are a class of programming languages that model the program, conceptually if not physically, as a directed graph of the data flowing between operations. Dataflow languages share some features of functional languages, and were generally developed in order to bring some functional concepts to a language more suitable for numeric processing." Source - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dataflow_language Perhaps some definitions have changed sine 1993. ../MiS --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Jan 28 01:22:08 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34183-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 27 Jan 2005 20:22:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 27 Jan 2005 20:22:07 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 20145 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 28 Jan 2005 01:22:04 +0000 Received: (qmail 20134 invoked from network); Fri, 28 Jan 2005 01:22:04 +0000 Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 20:28:31 -0500 From: Michal Seta <xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] [ot] development environment In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Scanned-By: milter-spamc/0.25.320 (mx2.b2b2c.ca [66.158.128.214]); Thu, 27 Jan 2005 20:21:59 -0500 X-Spam-Status: NO, hits=-5.90 required=7.00 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Lines: 15 References: <xxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx John Nowak <xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> writes: > In summary, Pd will be your new god, and dataflow programming will be > your new religion. Convert immediately. and to become a true follower and experience some serious community brainwashing, by all means join #dataflow channel on irc.freenode.org. You will even be allowed to talk about any other dataflow type programming languages if you feel inclined. Better even, there will be developers meetings on the channel in a very near future so you may even get a chance to voice your opinion. See you there. ../MiS --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Jan 28 00:08:43 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34182-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 27 Jan 2005 19:08:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 27 Jan 2005 19:08:43 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 88109 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 28 Jan 2005 00:08:17 +0000 Received: (qmail 88000 invoked from network); Fri, 28 Jan 2005 00:08:15 +0000 Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 19:08:11 -0500 From: ndkent <xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] what d'ya know Ondes Martinot... To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "th_ost" <xxxxxx@xxx.xxx> > To: "microsound" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> > Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 7:34 AM > Subject: Re: [microsound] Ondes Martinot... > > i am very interested in the ondes martenot, but found it hard to find > recordings of it, especially unacommpanied ones. > the only one i have is a recording of olivier messiaen's turangalila > symphony conducted by seiji ozawa. that 3 CD "OHM" set (released by the Elipsis Arts label in 2000) of (mostly) historic electronic music has a Messaien piece - for 4 ondes here goes the album it's from (which I don't have) http://www.amazon.ca/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000006EI8 (if the link doesn't work it's a 1990 CD recorded by and self titled "Ensemble d'Ondes de Montréal") I think the key album (though surely not easily obtained) is a double 1980 LP by Jeanne Loriod "Les Ondes Martenot - 50e Anniversaire de leur invention " on the Musique Francais d'Aujourd'huis label cat# 21.007 ADÈS That's got the full Messiaen "Fête des belles eaux" with the 6 Ondes ensemble, Millhaud & Jolivet pieces for Ondes and piano and then a newly commissioned piece (by Tessier) to play on a 6 ondes ensemble. > does anybody know of other recordings? > also, does anybody know how hard it would be to build one, given there > are > schematics of it to be found (i am absolutely NOT an electronics dyi > person, > just curious:(( ) It's vacuum tube technology though the inventor did update the technology and build some using more modern solid state components before he died. Though it's not really correct to simplify it quite so far, if you think about it, the sound is basically sine waves (though often treated even mechanically resonated within the system) so I'd think at least as much of it's distinction is it's user interface. I played a real one once for a couple minutes. You had the ring on wire that most people probably know about, but what's less known is the keyboard keys are baby sized and the whole mechanism rocks left and right for vibrato effects. So it's a little like a 2 part retinking of the theremin. You can do pitch sweeps. There's an accuracy to the sweeps that takes much longer to master on a real Theremin. But you still have manual vibrato... something well known to string players and vocalists but rarely taken advantage of in electronic music performance (where more or less fixed speed electronic LFOs rule when unexpressive samples aren't used). By the way. Radiohead might very well have bought a real one with their considerable money since then but kind of like like Portishead and their "Theremin", what they were using when their first got associated with the Ondes, and seen in videos of them live was actually a newlymade Analogue Systems French Connection CV keyboard controller meant for their line of analogue synth modules. (likely a prototype to be exact) . Anyway maybe someone will clue me in as to where if anywhere he's or they're playing a real Ondes rather than an Ondes his Analogue Systems inspired by synth controller. http://www.analoguesystems.co.uk/controllers.htm (scroll to the bottom keyboard) Less expected movies with substantial Ondes playing in the scores are Maurice Jarre's "Passage to India" and Elmer Bernstein's "The Field". Takemitsu's "Rising Sun" (the Connery/Snipes film) along with several of his Japanese scores ("Legacy for the Future" was re-issued by DG Japan a few years back). More expected are "Ed Wood" and "Ghost Busters" (also by Elmer Bernstein) nicholas d. kent www,technopop.info --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Jan 27 22:09:34 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34180-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 27 Jan 2005 17:09:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 27 Jan 2005 17:09:34 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 32667 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 27 Jan 2005 22:09:30 +0000 Received: (qmail 32657 invoked from network); Thu, 27 Jan 2005 22:09:30 +0000 Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 16:14:00 -0600 From: DaveX <xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Ondes Martinot... To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <000701c504bd$81382e80$xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1478 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <r02010400-1035-F2BA0D12707211D99387000D932C0D78@[67.84.254.108]> <000e01c50485$a9f340e0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> <001701c504a3$4567ad50$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> <000a01c504ab$c8a1e8e0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> <000c01c504b5$bb3520a0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx "still i can't help considering radiohead a bore trying to depress teenagers, which, according to lisa simpson, is "like shooting fish in a barrel"..." There's truth in what little Lisa said, but still, I can't say it's quite as boring as listening to the end result of the 56k challenge. Have you got around to listening to "Hail to the Thief" yet? It's some very nice music, maybe you'll find something to enjoy there. Lots of neat things going on. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Jan 27 22:12:49 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34181-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.111]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 27 Jan 2005 17:12:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 27 Jan 2005 17:12:48 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 35228 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 27 Jan 2005 22:12:44 +0000 Received: (qmail 35217 invoked from network); Thu, 27 Jan 2005 22:12:43 +0000 Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 23:12:32 +0100 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F6rn_Eriksson?= <xxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] Ringtones project To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <024901c504bd$514789a0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2527 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <r02010400-1035-F2BA0D12707211D99387000D932C0D78@[67.84.254.108]> <000e01c50485$a9f340e0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> <001701c504a3$4567ad50$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> <000a01c504ab$c8a1e8e0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> <000c01c504b5$bb3520a0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Project prolonged. Three submissions yet - give it a try. 3n is my favourite signal. http://microsound.nexthop.net/bin/view.cgi/Main/RingTones Other projects (56k, DerridaMemorial) to be found over at: http://microsound.nexthop.net/bin/view.cgi/Main/CollaborativeAudio /Björn Eriksson --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Jan 27 21:22:23 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34179-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 27 Jan 2005 16:22:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 27 Jan 2005 16:22:23 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 4360 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 27 Jan 2005 21:22:19 +0000 Received: (qmail 4348 invoked from network); Thu, 27 Jan 2005 21:22:17 +0000 Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 22:18:21 +0100 From: th_ost <xxxxxx@xxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Ondes Martinot... To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <000c01c504b5$bb3520a0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_ah19BrFh1FNBKgcdV8QaGg)" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Authenticated: #3048294 X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <r02010400-1035-F2BA0D12707211D99387000D932C0D78@[67.84.254.108]> <000e01c50485$a9f340e0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> <001701c504a3$4567ad50$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> <000a01c504ab$c8a1e8e0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_ah19BrFh1FNBKgcdV8QaGg) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit >>Got a problem with that? *lol* (that: of all the musicmaking entities out there it has to be radiohead?!!!?;((( ) yes! well, actually not really, since (or rather: as long as) nobody forces me to listen to them. the interview and other material on their website proved an interesting reading - so thanx for the info, nonetheless. still i can't help considering radiohead a bore trying to depress teenagers, which, according to lisa simpson, is "like shooting fish in a barrel"... th_ost °°° th_ost: tomoroh hidari_oliver stummer acronymic symbiosis of alter & ego http://www.tomoroh.com/ http://www.stiege44.com/ xxxxxx@xxx.xxx ay, sigue:56825202 >> we gonna fight for your right to apathy... << °°°°° --Boundary_(ID_ah19BrFh1FNBKgcdV8QaGg)-- From ???@??? Thu Jan 27 20:12:24 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34178-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 27 Jan 2005 15:12:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 27 Jan 2005 15:12:23 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 62962 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 27 Jan 2005 20:12:21 +0000 Received: (qmail 62952 invoked from network); Thu, 27 Jan 2005 20:12:21 +0000 Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 12:11:17 -0800 From: roberth <xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Ondes Martinot... To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <009201c504ac$7e2c5dd0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <r02010400-1035-F2BA0D12707211D99387000D932C0D78@[67.84.254.108]> <000e01c50485$a9f340e0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx on vinyl there was a musical heritage lp of messian chamber music, the ondes maritnot was not solo, but was in a small group setting. i still see this record for cheap robert ----- Original Message ----- From: "th_ost" <xxxxxx@xxx.xxx> To: "microsound" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 7:34 AM Subject: Re: [microsound] Ondes Martinot... i am very interested in the ondes martenot, but found it hard to find recordings of it, especially unacommpanied ones. the only one i have is a recording of olivier messiaen's turangalila symphony conducted by seiji ozawa. does anybody know of other recordings? also, does anybody know how hard it would be to build one, given there are schematics of it to be found (i am absolutely NOT an electronics dyi person, just curious:(( ) thanx for any info oliver °°° th_ost: tomoroh hidari_oliver stummer acronymic symbiosis of alter & ego http://www.tomoroh.com/ http://www.stiege44.com/ xxxxxx@xxx.xxx ay, sigue:56825202 >> we gonna fight for your right to apathy... << °°°°° ----- Original Message ----- From: vze26m98 To: microsound Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 15:51 Subject: [microsound] Ondes Martinot... Maurice Martenot, luthier de l'electronique 1990. , Quebec 312 p. Croissy-Beaubourg: Dervy. ISBN: 2-85076-333-0 Special Features: illus., port., bibliog., list of works, discog., index Abstract: History of the ondes martenot, based in large part on interviews conducted with Maurice Martenot (the inventor), his wife, sisters, and sons; Marcel Maniere, Martenot's assistant during the last 30 years of his life; and performer Jeanne Loriod. Provides lists of performers; institutions that offer instruction in the instrument; places where one or more ondes martenot are to be found; and compositions featuring it.(Calderisi, Maria) <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Jan 27 20:02:57 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34176-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 27 Jan 2005 15:02:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 27 Jan 2005 15:02:57 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 55311 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 27 Jan 2005 20:02:39 +0000 Received: (qmail 55300 invoked from network); Thu, 27 Jan 2005 20:02:38 +0000 Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 14:07:08 -0600 From: DaveX <xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Ondes Martinot... To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <000a01c504ab$c8a1e8e0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1478 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <r02010400-1035-F2BA0D12707211D99387000D932C0D78@[67.84.254.108]> <000e01c50485$a9f340e0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> <001701c504a3$4567ad50$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Got a problem with that? *lol* DaveX of all the musicmaking entities out there it has to be radiohead?!!!?;((( °°°°° ----- Original Message ----- From: bruce tovsky To: microsound Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 18:15 Subject: Re: [microsound] Ondes Martinot... i do believe that jonny greenwood of radiohead is one of the devotees of the ondes, and has featured it on recordings of his own music as well as radiohead's. you can hear his use of the ondes on the kid a/amnesiac sessions. here's a link to an interview in the computer music journal: http://www.ateaseweb.com/news/archive/001014.php cheers bruce On Jan 27, 2005, at 10:34 AM, th_ost wrote: > i am very interested in the ondes martenot, but found it hard to find > recordings of it, especially unacommpanied ones. > the only one i have is a recording of olivier messiaen's turangalila > symphony conducted by seiji ozawa. > > does anybody know of other recordings? > also, does anybody know how hard it would be to build one, given there > are schematics of it to be found (i am absolutely NOT an electronics > dyi person, just curious:(( ) > > thanx for any info bruce tovsky www.skeletonhome.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Jan 27 20:02:59 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34177-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.112]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 27 Jan 2005 15:02:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 27 Jan 2005 15:02:59 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 56239 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 27 Jan 2005 20:02:52 +0000 Received: (qmail 56226 invoked from network); Thu, 27 Jan 2005 20:02:51 +0000 Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 12:02:49 -0800 (PST) From: Wayne Jackson <xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] RE: MIDI software question/webcam as a controller? To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=eE28JpvSZBbJdcCN8gyy4tsi7VdIPUh9MO2CBM76oZwvivYax+9EKaFEGun1hgKka2fVd13k7noSIkcRYvBgYpCkpIADJSxq4FMgDnH6JJWCnlVuB2DWChclp8H1lygDDSq6yDumdevsEd17P4Om8KE8md1TOdbNlrSBkyijH2g= ; X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > I=B9m looking for software that will accomplish a somewhat > simple task: using > a webcam to detect color, motion, light, etc and translate > that information > into midi information. Tim Thompson has implemented this as an undocumented part of his KeyKit algorithmic music framework (for Windows only, so far as I know): http://nosuch.com/keykit/ I've played with it personally and the results are very compelling. You should contact Tim personally with any questions. -Wayne xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Get it on your mobile phone. http://mobile.yahoo.com/maildemo --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Jan 27 19:10:02 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34175-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.113]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 27 Jan 2005 14:10:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 27 Jan 2005 14:10:02 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 22086 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 27 Jan 2005 19:09:59 +0000 Received: (qmail 22076 invoked from network); Thu, 27 Jan 2005 19:09:59 +0000 Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 20:06:13 +0100 From: th_ost <xxxxxx@xxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Ondes Martinot... To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <001701c504a3$4567ad50$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_PHj3UkFD9t4NTtX3gcojew)" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Authenticated: #3048294 X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <r02010400-1035-F2BA0D12707211D99387000D932C0D78@[67.84.254.108]> <000e01c50485$a9f340e0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_PHj3UkFD9t4NTtX3gcojew) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit of all the musicmaking entities out there it has to be radiohead?!!!?;((( °°° th_ost: tomoroh hidari_oliver stummer acronymic symbiosis of alter & ego http://www.tomoroh.com/ http://www.stiege44.com/ xxxxxx@xxx.xxx ay, sigue:56825202 >> we gonna fight for your right to apathy... << °°°°° ----- Original Message ----- From: bruce tovsky To: microsound Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 18:15 Subject: Re: [microsound] Ondes Martinot... i do believe that jonny greenwood of radiohead is one of the devotees of the ondes, and has featured it on recordings of his own music as well as radiohead's. you can hear his use of the ondes on the kid a/amnesiac sessions. here's a link to an interview in the computer music journal: http://www.ateaseweb.com/news/archive/001014.php cheers bruce On Jan 27, 2005, at 10:34 AM, th_ost wrote: > i am very interested in the ondes martenot, but found it hard to find > recordings of it, especially unacommpanied ones. > the only one i have is a recording of olivier messiaen's turangalila > symphony conducted by seiji ozawa. > > does anybody know of other recordings? > also, does anybody know how hard it would be to build one, given there > are schematics of it to be found (i am absolutely NOT an electronics > dyi person, just curious:(( ) > > thanx for any info bruce tovsky www.skeletonhome.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org --Boundary_(ID_PHj3UkFD9t4NTtX3gcojew)-- From ???@??? Thu Jan 27 18:59:21 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34174-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 27 Jan 2005 13:59:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 27 Jan 2005 13:59:21 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 14156 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 27 Jan 2005 18:59:01 +0000 Received: (qmail 14143 invoked from network); Thu, 27 Jan 2005 18:59:00 +0000 Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 18:58:53 +0000 From: Joao Duarte <xx.xxx.xxx@xxxxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] EM videos To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_NFb5lSWsLDbYvVz2h6ZHBg)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Jan 2005 18:58:56.0581 (UTC) FILETIME=[40A6BF50:01C504A2] --Boundary_(ID_NFb5lSWsLDbYvVz2h6ZHBg) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Here are some nice EM video clips for your enjoyment: http://www.geocities.com/pygar_pygar/index.html Have fun! http://pwp.netcabo.pt/op.cab.pol/index.html --Boundary_(ID_NFb5lSWsLDbYvVz2h6ZHBg)-- From ???@??? Thu Jan 27 18:35:23 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34173-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.82]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 27 Jan 2005 13:35:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 27 Jan 2005 13:35:22 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 274 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 27 Jan 2005 18:35:19 +0000 Received: (qmail 264 invoked from network); Thu, 27 Jan 2005 18:35:19 +0000 Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 12:39:49 -0600 From: DaveX <xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Yasunao Tone To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <000e01c5049f$95dfa3e0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1478 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx The same goes for me. Contact us both. Maybe a combined effort will help uncover a recording of his... DaveX > I'm looking for any live performances or other rare audio by Yasunao > Tone. Should you have something please contact me and we can work out a > trade. > Please contact me off list. > > best, > Jacob > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Jan 27 18:14:03 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34172-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.110]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 27 Jan 2005 13:14:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 27 Jan 2005 13:14:03 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 85681 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 27 Jan 2005 18:13:58 +0000 Received: (qmail 85659 invoked from network); Thu, 27 Jan 2005 18:13:56 +0000 Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 19:13:23 +0100 From: Jacob Ludvigsen <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] Yasunao Tone To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Virus-Scanned: by mail (at) galnet.dk X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Hi I'm looking for any live performances or other rare audio by Yasunao Tone. Should you have something please contact me and we can work out a trade. Please contact me off list. best, Jacob --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Jan 27 17:42:26 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34170-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.109]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 27 Jan 2005 12:42:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 27 Jan 2005 12:42:26 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 71774 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 27 Jan 2005 17:42:21 +0000 Received: (qmail 71763 invoked from network); Thu, 27 Jan 2005 17:42:20 +0000 Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 09:53:43 -0800 From: Jonathan Zorn <xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Ondes Martinot... In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <r02010400-1035-F2BA0D12707211D99387000D932C0D78@[67.84.254.108]> <000e01c50485$a9f340e0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx I think the Messiaen piece Oraision on the compilation OHM early pioneers of electronic music is a solo for ondes martenot. Also Messiaen's opera St Francois d'Assise features an ondes martenot trio. jonathan On Jan 27, 2005, at 9:15 AM, bruce tovsky wrote: > i do believe that jonny greenwood of radiohead is one of > the devotees of the ondes, and has featured it on recordings > of his own music as well as radiohead's. you can hear his > use of the ondes on the kid a/amnesiac sessions. > here's a link to an interview in the computer music journal: > http://www.ateaseweb.com/news/archive/001014.php > cheers > bruce > > On Jan 27, 2005, at 10:34 AM, th_ost wrote: > >> i am very interested in the ondes martenot, but found it hard to find >> recordings of it, especially unacommpanied ones. >> the only one i have is a recording of olivier messiaen's turangalila >> symphony conducted by seiji ozawa. >> >> does anybody know of other recordings? >> also, does anybody know how hard it would be to build one, given >> there are schematics of it to be found (i am absolutely NOT an >> electronics dyi person, just curious:(( ) >> >> thanx for any info > > bruce tovsky > www.skeletonhome.com > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Jan 27 17:43:23 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34171-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.109]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 27 Jan 2005 12:43:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 27 Jan 2005 12:43:22 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 72875 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 27 Jan 2005 17:43:20 +0000 Received: (qmail 72865 invoked from network); Thu, 27 Jan 2005 17:43:20 +0000 Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 09:43:18 -0800 (PST) From: Matt Davignon <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Re: Show announcements = costly faux-pas? In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Ok... thanks for the encouragement, folks. Here's a link to the full text of tonight's (thursday) show of Antimatter and Miba in San Francisco. www.bayimproviser.com/luggagestore I'll only post events here that are likely to be interesting in a "microsound" context. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Jan 27 17:24:33 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34169-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.109]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 27 Jan 2005 12:24:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 27 Jan 2005 12:24:33 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 63060 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 27 Jan 2005 17:24:29 +0000 Received: (qmail 63050 invoked from network); Thu, 27 Jan 2005 17:24:29 +0000 Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 12:24:26 -0500 From: vze26m98 <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Ondes Martinot... In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <r02010400-1035-4B711A77708811D99387000D932C0D78@[67.84.254.108]> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mailsmith 2.1.4 (Blindsider) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx bruce tovsky wrote on 1/27/05: >i do believe that jonny greenwood of radiohead is one of >the devotees of the ondes, and has featured it on recordings >of his own music as well as radiohead's. Jeanne Loriod was supposed to record w/Radiohead, but sadly passed away... <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Jan 27 17:23:50 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34168-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.109]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 27 Jan 2005 12:23:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 27 Jan 2005 12:23:50 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 61504 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 27 Jan 2005 17:23:44 +0000 Received: (qmail 61494 invoked from network); Thu, 27 Jan 2005 17:23:43 +0000 Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 17:23:35 +0000 From: Domonkos Nagy <xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] [ot] development environment In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxx-xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Jan 2005 17:23:36.0789 (UTC) FILETIME=[EF63C050:01C50494] well, the windows version is not really complete. it lacks e.g. scheduling, OSCresponder, GUI... On Thu, Jan 27, 2005 at 04:34:28PM +0000, Edward George wrote: > Actually, i seem to remember downloading a windows port of > supercollider from sourceforge. > So the option is there i reckon for windows people if they fancy it. > > *PureData* --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Jan 27 17:15:35 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34167-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 27 Jan 2005 12:15:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 27 Jan 2005 12:15:35 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 53582 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 27 Jan 2005 17:15:31 +0000 Received: (qmail 53572 invoked from network); Thu, 27 Jan 2005 17:15:30 +0000 Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 12:15:25 -0500 From: bruce tovsky <xxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Ondes Martinot... In-reply-to: <000e01c50485$a9f340e0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Errors-to: xxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <r02010400-1035-F2BA0D12707211D99387000D932C0D78@[67.84.254.108]> <000e01c50485$a9f340e0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx i do believe that jonny greenwood of radiohead is one of the devotees of the ondes, and has featured it on recordings of his own music as well as radiohead's. you can hear his use of the ondes on the kid a/amnesiac sessions. here's a link to an interview in the computer music journal: http://www.ateaseweb.com/news/archive/001014.php cheers bruce On Jan 27, 2005, at 10:34 AM, th_ost wrote: > i am very interested in the ondes martenot, but found it hard to find > recordings of it, especially unacommpanied ones. > the only one i have is a recording of olivier messiaen's turangalila > symphony conducted by seiji ozawa. > > does anybody know of other recordings? > also, does anybody know how hard it would be to build one, given there > are schematics of it to be found (i am absolutely NOT an electronics > dyi person, just curious:(( ) > > thanx for any info bruce tovsky www.skeletonhome.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Jan 27 16:51:52 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34165-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 27 Jan 2005 11:51:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 27 Jan 2005 11:51:52 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 38477 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 27 Jan 2005 16:51:48 +0000 Received: (qmail 38466 invoked from network); Thu, 27 Jan 2005 16:51:48 +0000 Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 11:51:41 -0500 From: vze26m98 <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] [ot] development environment In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <r02010400-1035-B8C36799708311D99387000D932C0D78@[67.84.254.108]> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mailsmith 2.1.4 (Blindsider) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx John Nowak wrote on 1/27/05: >nearly any type of application. Anyone who tells you that SC is more >powerful because it is a "real" or "textual" language is not familiar >with the true nature of dataflow programming. It is a very powerful and >In summary, Pd will be your new god, and dataflow programming will be >your new religion. Convert immediately. John- I think there's some debate as to whether Max/MSP/Pure Data qualifies as a data-flow language: "The term "data-flow" is not a good description of Max except for the intuition. Data-flow computers and languages are based on the idea that (parallel) computations can be synchronized by data. For example, an addition operator would wait for its two operands before adding them. Note that this is not at all how Max works. I will not argue that Max should work this way, but since it doesn't, one should not call it a data-flow language. I think "patch language" or "visual programming language" are better terms. Since Max is not a data-flow language, it lacks many of their nice properties. Interestingly, most signal processing, and certainly DSP based on unit generators, is essentially data-flow computation. Even the Max extensions for signal processing on the IRCAM Signal Processing Workstation follow the data-flow paradigm, resulting in a mismatch between the event-based Max operators and the signal/data-flow-based Max operators. The boxes and lines look the same, but the underlying semantics are quite different. This is a manifestation of some of the problems that Desain and Honing describe." Roger Dannenberg Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania USA For the rest try: <http://cf.hum.uva.nl/mmm/papers/dh-93-b.txt> Best, <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Jan 27 17:01:38 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34166-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.112]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 27 Jan 2005 12:01:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 27 Jan 2005 12:01:37 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 44174 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 27 Jan 2005 17:01:35 +0000 Received: (qmail 44162 invoked from network); Thu, 27 Jan 2005 17:01:34 +0000 Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 16:34:28 +0000 From: Edward George <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] [ot] development environment In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: Edward George <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=pP/NQcbULUhp883veq14rgg7M2H1O/2k8CHzJAOP0xWrI94UJAh+Gwp3JYOe4VDZFNeelPLl0VTahfSXN10f55wbYFBwAiqhnWNF9Kitl7aY555YTRkw6N6JxOckSaDzY0ADFGkN6It3EAToXW9OI9el9X5vmTsnqP9Kov7nCJ8= X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >Supercollider doesn't run on Windows anyway Actually, i seem to remember downloading a windows port of supercollider from sourceforge. So the option is there i reckon for windows people if they fancy it. *PureData* --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Jan 27 16:19:48 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34164-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.83]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 27 Jan 2005 11:19:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 27 Jan 2005 11:19:48 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 21816 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 27 Jan 2005 16:19:44 +0000 Received: (qmail 21803 invoked from network); Thu, 27 Jan 2005 16:19:44 +0000 Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 11:19:47 -0500 From: John Nowak <xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] [ot] development environment In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - jet16.hasweb.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - hyperreal.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - johnnowak.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx On Jan 27, 2005, at 10:08 AM, john saylor wrote: >> supercollider and puredata seem to be the best two choices. which >> should i learn first? > > pd > > cross platform > active development > 'cousin' of max > can do as much as you have brain to make it > open source > > you'll need to work to get it to do what you want- but it can do pretty > much anything you'll want it to. I agree with this 100%. Supercollider is more flexible only in the sense that signal objects can be manipulated more dynamically while audio processing is occurring, although often you can get the same thing done in Pd/Max via pre-scripting, matrix~ objects, etc. Otherwise, dataflow languages like Pd are hugely powerful for building nearly any type of application. Anyone who tells you that SC is more powerful because it is a "real" or "textual" language is not familiar with the true nature of dataflow programming. It is a very powerful and non-domain-specific paradigm. That said, not everyone's brain is compatible with it. Some people find SC easier than Pd, although I'd say most of the time people find Pd easier (if for no other reason than that there is less initial shock). Supercollider doesn't run on Windows anyway, so unless you're willing to switch to Linux or BSD (which you should of course, if for no other reason than to avoid people telling you to switch), you have to go with Pd. That said, it kicks ass. I prefer Max due to the tons of excellent documentation, easy standalone building, wider array of externals (although Pd is catching up for sure), and Jitter (although gridflow is also becoming very viable as far as I can tell). Of course you can always learn Pd and move to Max later if you want. I installed Pd for the first time a few weeks back, and I was able to begin working immediately. The only real differences are how ordering ambiguities are resolved (I prefer the Max method) how abstraction instantiation is dealt with in regards to arguments (I prefer the Pd method), and if you can edit abstractions or not (you can in Pd, and you can't in Max, but saving an editing abstraction in Pd is functionally equivalent to editing the original in Max anyway). There are of course many features that they do not share, but as far as the core concepts go, that's about it (as far as I can tell). Someone correct me if I'm missing some mid-level differences, which I likely am as I'm not Pd expert. In summary, Pd will be your new god, and dataflow programming will be your new religion. Convert immediately. - John --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Jan 27 16:07:22 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34163-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 27 Jan 2005 11:07:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 27 Jan 2005 11:07:21 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 12733 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 27 Jan 2005 16:07:15 +0000 Received: (qmail 12723 invoked from network); Thu, 27 Jan 2005 16:07:15 +0000 Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 11:08:43 -0500 From: Mike Hansen <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] CKLN FM's Whynot Jazz playlist for January 12, 2005 To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.553) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > Dear Artist and Label > > Welcome to the radio program Whynot Jazz on Toronto's CKLN FM 88.1. > Heard Every Wednesday Morning from 7am-11am est, 1pm thru most of > Europe and noon in the UK. 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Thu Jan 27 15:38:22 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34162-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 27 Jan 2005 10:38:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from gx2.optonline.net (gx2.optonline.net [167.206.112.44]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 27 Jan 2005 10:38:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org ([209.237.226.90]) by gx2.optonline.net (InterMail vG.1.00.00.00 201-2136-104-20040331) with SMTP id <20050127153814.STLQ3617.gx2.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> for <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>; Thu, 27 Jan 2005 10:38:14 -0500 Received: (qmail 96988 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 27 Jan 2005 15:38:13 +0000 Received: (qmail 96972 invoked from network); Thu, 27 Jan 2005 15:38:12 +0000 Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 16:34:07 +0100 From: th_ost <xxxxxx@xxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Ondes Martinot... To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <000e01c50485$a9f340e0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_nBV+u24IWcKECOS3PcfcGA)" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Authenticated: #3048294 X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <r02010400-1035-F2BA0D12707211D99387000D932C0D78@[67.84.254.108]> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_nBV+u24IWcKECOS3PcfcGA) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit i am very interested in the ondes martenot, but found it hard to find recordings of it, especially unacommpanied ones. the only one i have is a recording of olivier messiaen's turangalila symphony conducted by seiji ozawa. does anybody know of other recordings? also, does anybody know how hard it would be to build one, given there are schematics of it to be found (i am absolutely NOT an electronics dyi person, just curious:(( ) thanx for any info oliver °°° th_ost: tomoroh hidari_oliver stummer acronymic symbiosis of alter & ego http://www.tomoroh.com/ http://www.stiege44.com/ xxxxxx@xxx.xxx ay, sigue:56825202 >> we gonna fight for your right to apathy... << °°°°° ----- Original Message ----- From: vze26m98 To: microsound Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 15:51 Subject: [microsound] Ondes Martinot... Maurice Martenot, luthier de l'electronique 1990. , Quebec 312 p. Croissy-Beaubourg: Dervy. ISBN: 2-85076-333-0 Special Features: illus., port., bibliog., list of works, discog., index Abstract: History of the ondes martenot, based in large part on interviews conducted with Maurice Martenot (the inventor), his wife, sisters, and sons; Marcel Maniere, Martenot's assistant during the last 30 years of his life; and performer Jeanne Loriod. Provides lists of performers; institutions that offer instruction in the instrument; places where one or more ondes martenot are to be found; and compositions featuring it.(Calderisi, Maria) <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org --Boundary_(ID_nBV+u24IWcKECOS3PcfcGA)-- From ???@??? 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Thu Jan 27 15:09:33 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34160-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.82]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 27 Jan 2005 10:09:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 27 Jan 2005 10:09:33 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 79869 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 27 Jan 2005 15:09:23 +0000 Received: (qmail 79836 invoked from network); Thu, 27 Jan 2005 15:09:23 +0000 Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 16:09:21 +0100 (CET) From: Onda Sonora Radio <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] CONTENTS ONDA SONORA 26/01/05 To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_M0MFDCMNucbY3COQtc+UeA)" Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_M0MFDCMNucbY3COQtc+UeA) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit ONDA SONORA, Madrid (ES) Radio Círculo de Bellas Artes 100.4 FM - Miércoles/Wednesday 15h - www.circulobellasartes.com Radio Autónoma 88.8 FM - Mar-Jue/Tue-Thu 16h - www.uam.es/ra Escucha en directo a cualquier hora / Listen live real time - www.ondasonoraradio.com _________________________________ CONTENTS ONDA SONORA 26/01/05 01. REUBER Track: Foreverof Album: VA Tempo Technik Teamwork Label: Staubgold Timo Reuber es un músico electrónico de raíces psicodélicas que mantiene lazos musicales con Markus Detmer, fundador de Staubgold, en su proyecto conjunto Klangwart, y que recientemente publicaba, precisamente en este sello alemán, su tercer álbum, "Kintopp", un trabajo lleno de secuencias de diferentes contextos ensambladas a modo de collage. Este, sin embargo, es el corte de Reuber incluído en el último recopilatorio de Staubgold, "Tempo Technik Teamwork", un doble cd que documenta las múltiples caras de un sello polifacético Timo Reuber is an electronic musician of psychedelic roots keeping musical knots with Markus Detmer (Staubgold founder) in their combined project Klangwart. He recently releaseded in this German label his third album, "Kintopp", a work filled with sequences of different contexts assembled as a kind of collage. This is, however, the track included by Reuber in the last compilation of the label, "Tempo Technik Teamwork", a double cd that documents the multiple faces of a versatile company 02. MINIT Track: Ij Muiden Album: Now Right Here Label: Staubgold Continuamos con Minit, un proyecto originario de Sydney con residencia actual en Berlin, formado por Jasmine Guffond y Torben Tilly. Se trata de un disco disturbante, mitad emocional mitad frío, mitad ruido, mitad armonía, titulado "Now Right Here", un trabajo que evoluciona hipnóticamente y se desarrolla a través de samplings, procesado digital y técnicas electroacústicas We continue with Minit, a Sydney native project with current residence in Berlin, formed by Jasmine Guffond and Torben Tilly. It is a disturbing record, half emotional half cold, half noise, half harmony, entitled "Now Right Here", a work that evolves hypnotically and is developed through samplings, digital processing and electro-acoustic techniques 03. DEAN ROBERTS Track: Part 1 Title: And the Black Moths Play the Grand Cinema Label: Staubgold Segundo trabajo del neozelandés Dean Roberts, originalmente publicado por Ritornell el año 2000 y recientemente reeditado por Staubgold, un álbum en el que Roberts posiblemente alcanzó la cima de su carrera, aunque ha continuado publicando varios discos más a través del sello Kranky Second work of the neozelander Dean Roberts, originally released by Ritornell the year 2000 and recently reissued by Staubgold, an album in which Roberts maybe reached his higher point, although he has several more releases on the Kranky label 04. AUTISTIC DAUGHTERS Track: Spend It On The Enemy (While It Was Raining) Album: Jealousy and Diamond Label: Staubgold Proyecto conjunto de Dean Roberts junto a los vieneses Martin Brandlmayr (Radian, Trapist) y Werner Dafeldecker (a quien conocemos como componente de Polwechsel y por sus múltiples obras de colaboración con otros improvisadores de prestigio): The Autistic Daughters. Este es su primer trabajo: "Jealousy and Diamond", publicado a medias por Staubgold desde Alemania, en su versión vinilo, y Kranky en los Estados Unidos, en su versión cd Project Dean Roberts together with the Vienesse artists Martin Brandlmayr (Radian, Trapist) and Werner Dafeldecker (we know him as a component of Polwechsel and for his multiple collaborative works with other prestiged improvisators): The Autistic Daughters. This is their first work together, released by both Staubgold from Germany, the vinyl version, and Kranky in the United States, the cd 05. BRANDLMAYR/ DAFELDECKER/ NEMETH/ SIEWERT Track: Part 5 Album: Die Instabilität Der Symetrie Label: Doc / Grob Recordings Desde Austria, el percusionista Martin Brandlmayr y el contrabajista Werner Dafeldecker, a quienes se unen en esta ocasión el músico electrónico Stefan Nemeth, director también del sello Mosz y el guitarrista y productor Martin Siewert, todos con un background musical común, dado que se han cruzado los unos con los otros muchas veces y en muy diferentes proyectos, del pop a la pura improvisación From Austria, percusionist Martin Brandlmayr and bassist Werner Dafeldecker, joined in this occasion by electronic musician Stefan Nemeth, as well director of the Mosz label, and guitarist and productor Martin Siewert, all with a common musical background, since they have crossed each other many times and in very different projects, from pop music to pure improvisation 06. VITOR JOAQUIM Track: Vii Album: A Rose is a Rose Label: dOc Vitor Joaquim, artista multidisciplinar portugués que comenzó trabajando en teatro, cine e interpretación y que posteriormente comenzó a desarrollar un extenso trabajo como creador de atmósferas y sonidos originales para todo tipo de formatos: danza, cine, vídeo o instalaciones, hasta que publicara en 1997 su primer disco, "Tales From Chaos". Desde entonces, ha editado en Cronica Electronica y más recientemente para el sello austríaco dOC Vitor Joaquim, Portuguese multidisciplinar artist that began working for theater, cinema and interpretation, later started to develop an extensive work as a creator of atmospheres and original sounds for all kind of productions: dance, cinema, video or installations, until he released in 1997 his first record, "Tales From Chaos". From then on, he has released some more works in Cronica Electronica and more recently for the Austrian label dOC 07. OYSTER Track: Coins Causing Galvanic Corrosion Album: Oyster Label: Fukk God Colaboración entre dos músicos originarios de Florida, Danny L. y Greg Kowalsky, al que conocíamos por sus trabajos bajo el alias Osso Bucco, un proyecto para el que han tomado el sobrenombre Oyster que investiga en armonías sutiles y texturas densas, editado por Fukk God Let's Create, netlabel dedicado a distribuir gratuitamente via internet sonidos electrónicos de raíz abstracta Collaboration between two Florida native musicians, Danny L. and Greg Kowalsky (Osso Bucco), a project for which they have taken the Oyster moniker, investigating in subtle harmonies and dense textures. Released by Fukk God Let's Create, a netlabel dedicated to the free distribution of abstract electronic sounds via internet 08. KARL MIDHOLM Track: 2 Album: Drömminge EP Label: Fukk God Acabamos en el sello Fukk God con el "Drömminge EP" de Karl Midholm, artista sueco que lleva varios trabajando en el campo del ambient noise bajo el sobrenombre Ovum, aunque ésta es la segunda referencia que edita bajo su propio nombre, un disco que en ocasiones recuerda a la división más ambiental de Kranky y en otras, como ésta, desarrolla paisajes sonoros de inspiración más industrial We end in the Fukk God netlabel with Karl Midholm's "Drömminge EP", a Swedish artist that has been working in the field of ambient noise under the Ovum moniker, although this is his second reference under his own name, a record that remembers to the most environmental division of Kranky at times, and develops sound landscapes of a more industrial inspiration at other times, as this one ______ Nota: Este mensaje no ha sido solicitado, pero consideramos que podría interesarte. De no ser así, responde con un mensaje titulado "borrame" y serás inmediatamente eliminado del mailing. Muchas gracias Note: This is an undemanded message, but we have considered it could be interesting for you. If that’s not the case, then reply us with this subject for the message: "delete me", and you will be inmediately out from the mailing. Thank you --------------------------------- --Boundary_(ID_M0MFDCMNucbY3COQtc+UeA)-- From ???@??? Thu Jan 27 14:53:57 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34159-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 27 Jan 2005 09:53:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 27 Jan 2005 09:53:57 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 72178 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 27 Jan 2005 14:53:50 +0000 Received: (qmail 72165 invoked from network); Thu, 27 Jan 2005 14:53:50 +0000 Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 10:08:11 -0500 From: john saylor <xx@xxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] [ot] development environment In-reply-to: <xxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx hi ( 05.01.26 22:17 -0500 ) david golightly: > i'm slowly becoming disillusioned with Csound well, i've always thought csound is better as a non-real [imaginary?] time tool. for composers and their descendants. > supercollider and puredata seem to be the best two choices. which > should i learn first? pd cross platform active development 'cousin' of max can do as much as you have brain to make it open source you'll need to work to get it to do what you want- but it can do pretty much anything you'll want it to. -- \js ;~|+}\= ]:> http://or8.net/~johns .{)\. iraq body count: 15,493 [min] 17,721 [max] --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Jan 27 14:51:44 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34158-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.112]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 27 Jan 2005 09:51:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 27 Jan 2005 09:51:43 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 70478 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 27 Jan 2005 14:51:40 +0000 Received: (qmail 70467 invoked from network); Thu, 27 Jan 2005 14:51:40 +0000 Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 09:51:38 -0500 From: vze26m98 <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Ondes Martinot... In-reply-to: <r02010400-1035-E196E12E706B11D99387000D932C0D78@[67.84.254.108]> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <r02010400-1035-F2BA0D12707211D99387000D932C0D78@[67.84.254.108]> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mailsmith 2.1.4 (Blindsider) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Maurice Martenot, luthier de l'electronique 1990. , Quebec 312 p. Croissy-Beaubourg: Dervy. ISBN: 2-85076-333-0 Special Features: illus., port., bibliog., list of works, discog., index Abstract: History of the ondes martenot, based in large part on interviews conducted with Maurice Martenot (the inventor), his wife, sisters, and sons; Marcel Maniere, Martenot's assistant during the last 30 years of his life; and performer Jeanne Loriod. Provides lists of performers; institutions that offer instruction in the instrument; places where one or more ondes martenot are to be found; and compositions featuring it.(Calderisi, Maria) <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? 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Thu Jan 27 14:01:26 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34156-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 27 Jan 2005 09:01:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 27 Jan 2005 09:01:22 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 50022 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 27 Jan 2005 14:01:06 +0000 Received: (qmail 50010 invoked from network); Thu, 27 Jan 2005 14:01:05 +0000 Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 09:01:02 -0500 From: vze26m98 <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] monsier brel and madame loriod In-reply-to: <R02010100-1037-32728446705B11D9A9A1000D933B19D8@[84.132.119.1]> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <r02010400-1035-E196E12E706B11D99387000D932C0D78@[67.84.254.108]> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mailsmith 2.1.4 (Blindsider) Content-type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx stephan mathieu wrote on 1/27/05: >this morning i've heard a version of 'ne me quitte pas' by jacques >brel featuring jeanne loriod on the ondes martenot, an absolutely >stunning performance. now i dont seem to find any info on wich album >this recording can be found. Sure it's not the original recording? (Barclay LP 80.470, 1972) "Elle a même touché quelque peu au cinéma en participant à l’enregistrement des musiques de Maurice Jarre pour Lawrence d’Arabie, et à la variété en collaborant avec Jacques Brel pour sa célèbre chanson Ne me quitte pas..." <http://www.musimem.com/obi-0701-1201.htm> <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Jan 27 13:11:11 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34155-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 27 Jan 2005 08:11:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 27 Jan 2005 08:11:11 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 39036 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 27 Jan 2005 13:11:07 +0000 Received: (qmail 39024 invoked from network); Thu, 27 Jan 2005 13:11:06 +0000 Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 13:11:03 +0000 From: Richard Whitelaw <xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Capsule at the Spitz, London To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BE1E98E7.3B28%xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.4.030702.0 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Capsule presents Supersonic treats from the city of Birmingham Live performances from: Black Galaxy vs Kreepa (ex napalm death/scorn) ZX Spectrum Orchestra (feat. Brian Duffy + Mike in Mono ex Plone) Esquilax Visuals by Beat13 Record Stalls: Static Caravan/Experimental Seafood/Type Saturday 29th January THE SPITZ. 109 COMMERCIAL ST. OLD SPITALFIELDS MARKET. LONDON. E1 6BG 8.30pm - till late £5 In recent years, Birmingham has developed a potent electronica scene, breeding artists such as Plone, Broadcast, Pram, Magnetophone, Scorn, Sand, Tele:Funken, The Modified Toy Orchestra, Dreams Of Tall Buildings, PCM and Mike In Mono. Innovative artists need innovative record labels. The current Birmingham scene is bristling with vital new set-ups that are dedicated to the music's confrontational byways, without relinquishing its funky pulse... Black Galaxy features Nicholas Bullen whose abrasive work in Napalm Death initiated a new musical genre known as 'Grindcore' and later a member of the dark, isolationist and dub-influenced Scorn. In collaboration with Simon Mabbutt they fuse cold and alien galactic soundscapes with minimal warped bass and glacial rhythmic underpinnings to create nocturnal sonorities. kREEPA mix electronic and acoustic elements to create improvisations that explore the dynamic interplay between acousmatic synthesis and instrumental approaches. (Members of Sand) ZX Spectrum Orchestra (feat. Brian Duffy + Mike in Mono) its capability to create a more unconventional sound is limitless. Everything you will see and hear is derived from a steep and logistic learning curve. Peek, Poke and Merge. Brian Duffy / Modified Toy Orchestra works with electronic sound toys that have been rewired and reconfigured to create a series of musical instruments each creating their own new electronic sounds which oscillate between the familiar function of the toys and new sounds far removed from the original function. Mike In Mono (UK Halfeaten Records) aka Mike Johnston is better known as member of Birmingham's kitsch electronica trio Plone (Warp). His ever growing fondness for 'spoken word' is now a relished element in the mike-in-mono show. Esquilax are a shiny party plastic new wave avant-garde pop terror group -possessed by Devo, raised by Agoraphobic Nosebleed. A sample of forthcoming treats at the Supersonic Festival due to take place on 15th/16th July 05 at the Custard Factory Birmingham. http://www.capsule.org.uk For images or further info contact Lisa/Jenny 0121 248 2252 xxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx.xx --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Jan 27 12:01:46 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34154-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.114]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 27 Jan 2005 07:01:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 27 Jan 2005 07:01:45 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 21553 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 27 Jan 2005 12:01:41 +0000 Received: (qmail 21543 invoked from network); Thu, 27 Jan 2005 12:01:40 +0000 Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 13:01:36 +0100 From: stephan mathieu <xxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] monsier brel and madame loriod In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <R02010100-1037-32728446705B11D9A9A1000D933B19D8@[84.132.119.1]> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mailsmith 2.1.1 (Blindsider) Demo Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx this morning i've heard a version of 'ne me quitte pas' by jacques brel featuring jeanne loriod on the ondes martenot, an absolutely stunning performance. now i dont seem to find any info on wich album this recording can be found. any help is greatly appreaciated, please contact me off-list - stephan --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Jan 27 09:30:00 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34153-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 27 Jan 2005 04:30:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 27 Jan 2005 04:30:00 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 85606 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 27 Jan 2005 09:29:59 +0000 Received: (qmail 85594 invoked from network); Thu, 27 Jan 2005 09:29:59 +0000 Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 01:29:53 -0800 From: Phil Thomson <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] [spam] Vancouver: pino the frog + Phil Thomson, Jan 28 @ BLIM To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: Phil Thomson <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=rpdXIju0Slb92P2UGmA3KNOqPFHecv7/D+cn8hwjweCvVjoqd1byIIbaV3lUSQC3OX/d3IwZVJ3QVSuicuDmFASScqMvm7y0WTDEFmiwqVpU4LIn+fP+jrrWy8ofI8qHiH1uvwB4LMaI4sw4rPMf+t0VVjzeVyI////V7N1gXrU= X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Hey all, Anyone in the Vancouver area might want to check out a show @ BLIM (#600 - 23 W. Pender) this Friday. Me and a guy named pino the frog (http://www.fragm.net/pinothefrog/) are playing. There is another show the same night at Video In as well, featuring coin gutter among others. Phil -- Phil Thomson xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx { home: http://www.sfu.ca/~pthomson/ { blog: http://www.bloglines.com/blog/PhilThomson { label: http://centibel.org/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Jan 27 07:15:10 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34152-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.113]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 27 Jan 2005 02:15:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 27 Jan 2005 02:15:09 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 18346 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 27 Jan 2005 07:15:09 +0000 Received: (qmail 18336 invoked from network); Thu, 27 Jan 2005 07:15:09 +0000 Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 02:15:05 -0500 From: koen <xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Tonic 01/28 - Queens (Jane, 14K | NYC) Mountains (Aero & Anderegg, Apestaarje | NYC) To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BE1DFF27.C1F%xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Please come join us MIDNIGHT 01/28 UPSTAIRS at Tonic :: Queens (Jane, 14K | NYC) : Queens is Scott Mou's solo project. When he's not performing as Queens, he works at Other Music, performs as Jane with one of the Animal Collective guys and as 14K with Hisham (ex-Black Dice), and is also one hell of a minimal techno DJ. Queens is quiet electro-acoustic drones done very well. Mountains (Aero & Anderegg, Apestaarje | NYC) : Mountains is new project from Apestaarje label barons Brendon Anderegg and Koen Holtkamp, who are more known for their minimal and melodic Aero & Anderegg projects. Mountains covers a lot of ground, sweetly drifting between minimal electronic and new folk. For tonights show they promise something a little louder, including an accordian... Tonic is located at 107 Norfolk Street between Delancey and Rivington Streets in Manhattan's Lower East Side. You can take the F train to Delancey Street or the J/M/Z trains to Essex Street. Once you exit the station walk east (towards the Williamsburg bridge) on Delancey Street and take your first left onto Norfolk. You will see Tonic about half up the block on your left. apestaartje www.staartje.com ............................................................................. OUT NOW :: sebastien roux - pillow (staartje017) cd COMING SOON :: mountains - s/t (staartje018) cd ............................................................................ NEW ADDRESS :: 782 manhattan ave #2L brooklyn ny 11222 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Jan 27 04:48:57 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34151-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.114]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 26 Jan 2005 23:48:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 26 Jan 2005 23:48:57 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 74533 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 27 Jan 2005 04:48:56 +0000 Received: (qmail 74519 invoked from network); Thu, 27 Jan 2005 04:48:55 +0000 Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 23:55:13 -0500 From: Michal Seta <xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] MIDI software question/webcam as a controller? In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Scanned-By: milter-spamc/0.25.320 (mx1.b2b2c.ca [66.158.128.213]); Wed, 26 Jan 2005 23:48:50 -0500 X-Spam-Status: NO, hits=-5.90 required=7.00 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Lines: 15 References: <BE1D7D5E.328C%xxxx_xxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx bruce tovsky <xxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> writes: > as has already been mentioned, there are objects in > the jitter video package for max/msp that do this very > thing. you might also check out softVNS and isadora. > cheers > bruce gridflow (www.gridflow.ca) will do that too. Well, actually, gridflow will pull numbers off your images and you do the rest with vanilla PD. Source code for your perusal is also available. ../MiS --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Jan 27 04:15:33 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34150-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.110]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 26 Jan 2005 23:15:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 26 Jan 2005 23:15:33 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 64453 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 27 Jan 2005 04:15:29 +0000 Received: (qmail 64443 invoked from network); Thu, 27 Jan 2005 04:15:29 +0000 Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 05:17:36 +0100 From: derek holzer <xxxxx@x-x.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] [ot] development environment In-reply-to: <xxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxx@x-x.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041206) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx I use Pure Data exclusively for live performance, installations and recording, but it is something of a rabbit hole once you fall in. CSound is ancient, and not meant for realtime at all. SuperCollider is neat, powerful, and a step deeper into the learning curve than a graphical environment like PD or Max/MSP [but more suited to realtime DSP in its own way]. If you are really worried about platform, the PD would be a better choice, as it is available for windoze, OSX, Linux, and Irix. If you are seriously concerned about platfrom, however, you might investigate Linux as an architecture-independent solution. In the end I found the benefits of Linux outweighed the lerning curve immensely. In short, my advice would be to check out PD on whatever platform you dig. Get on the mailing list and ask a bizillion questions, caiuse that's the only way you'll learn anything. Once you run into dead ends with the realtime, learn to optimize PD better or start playing with SuperCollider. The stuff you learned from PD will only help, as PD is *far* better at data-flow processing than SC. Then install Linx on every piece of hardware you have and really go to town ;-) In fact, the best option would be to combine PD+SC on Linux via OSC, or maybe even build a sweet interface in Java or Proce55ing. good luck and see you on the frequency again soon, d. david golightly wrote: > hello list, > i'm slowly becoming disillusioned with Csound - my first real > development platform - because of its poor real-time performance. i'm > ready to learn a new language, then. i'd like to use max/msp but can't > afford it (i KNEW i never should have graduated from school!). so i'd > like some feedback, offlist if you prefer: supercollider and puredata > seem to be the best two choices. which should i learn first? what have > you used? what would you avoid? what has the best all-around learning > curve/power of control tradeoff? how about live performance? (no > pricey commercial software please!) i'm using an 800mhz windoze xp > desktop pc and an 300mhz ibook so anything that runs on both platforms > would be ideal. -- derek holzer ::: http://www.umatic.nl ---Oblique Strategy # 36: "Consult other sources -promising -unpromising" --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Jan 27 04:10:23 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34149-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 26 Jan 2005 23:10:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 26 Jan 2005 23:10:23 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 60368 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 27 Jan 2005 04:10:11 +0000 Received: (qmail 60358 invoked from network); Thu, 27 Jan 2005 04:10:10 +0000 Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 04:10:05 +0000 From: xxxxxxx@xxx.xxx Subject: Re: [microsound] Self-promo/new release To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Oct 18 2004) Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_hzsK4pfO8Yz7RlmcMXOr0w)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Authenticated-Sender: dGlvbmxlZUBhdHQubmV0 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_hzsK4pfO8Yz7RlmcMXOr0w) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit hey, i have a sampler w/ you on it....it came in CABNET magazine -t -------------- Original message from Al C <xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>: -------------- > Hi all, > > Since some people have claimed that they don't mind self promotion type > posts, Here ya go... > > New omnid full legth release on Retinascan Records. Go here for details/mp3 > clips: http://www.retinascan.de/compactdiscs/fcd48.htm > > also out now: > > omnid "Wrong Number" 3"cd-r on Authorised Version > http://www.a-version.co.uk/releases.htm > > best, > albert casais > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > --Boundary_(ID_hzsK4pfO8Yz7RlmcMXOr0w)-- From ???@??? Thu Jan 27 03:20:28 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34148-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 26 Jan 2005 22:20:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 26 Jan 2005 22:20:28 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 39975 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 27 Jan 2005 03:20:27 +0000 Received: (qmail 39965 invoked from network); Thu, 27 Jan 2005 03:20:27 +0000 Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 22:17:32 -0500 From: david golightly <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] [ot] development environment X-Originating-IP: [64.253.118.140] X-Sender: xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Bcc: Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Originating-Email: [xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Jan 2005 03:18:01.0129 (UTC) FILETIME=[CE946990:01C5041E] hello list, i'm slowly becoming disillusioned with Csound - my first real development platform - because of its poor real-time performance. i'm ready to learn a new language, then. i'd like to use max/msp but can't afford it (i KNEW i never should have graduated from school!). so i'd like some feedback, offlist if you prefer: supercollider and puredata seem to be the best two choices. which should i learn first? what have you used? what would you avoid? what has the best all-around learning curve/power of control tradeoff? how about live performance? (no pricey commercial software please!) i'm using an 800mhz windoze xp desktop pc and an 300mhz ibook so anything that runs on both platforms would be ideal. thanks david --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Jan 27 02:14:27 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34147-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.110]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 26 Jan 2005 21:14:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 26 Jan 2005 21:14:23 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 14988 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 27 Jan 2005 02:14:19 +0000 Received: (qmail 14978 invoked from network); Thu, 27 Jan 2005 02:14:19 +0000 Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 02:11:53 +0000 (GMT) From: "xxxxx@xxxx.xxx" <xxxxx@xxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Re: [phonography] seeking a contact for Thanos Chrysakis. X-Originating-IP: [64.40.55.72] To: xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx Cc: xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx.xx, xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx.xxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: WebMail Version 2.0 Content-type: text/plain Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-UNTD-OriginStamp: ymnrZTwhqAK9vTzSuWCxvUlywOzAdUA1m+vWDb7mPmWCtYy+uEcaqA== X-ContentStamp: 7:3:2484182486 X-MAIL-INFO: 3d133aaa574aaa73e7b793fa9edb9363476b631e02c79ef30e6a5b0b8ba38e6e7f1ee3ae1bebeb2ba3fe6ecf0a6e2fbb232b7f133b1adff79797faab638adf3ab79a9a4e8fba4b9b5a37afe3c3872abbbbdb9ea3ea0b0bee5f577aa327e76e93b3fe57e7e767d76f02fe0a2b4747 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Robert, As far as I know, xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx.xx is still his e-mail address. I am also sending this to him, so if it returns to me then maybe he changed it recently. Best, Dale Dale Lloyd: http://www.and-oar.org/dalelloyd.html and/OAR: http://www.and-oar.org/ NEW: Turba / Lateral Minor (Stasisfield.com) NEW: Volatile And Fixed Principles (leerraum) Hi, I'm wondering (and hoping) that someone on the list can help put me in touch with the sound artist Thanos Chrysakis, or even if you are on this list yourself Thanos. I've been emailing a freenet uk address but it's being returned. This is quite urgent and concerns 'drift | resonant cities' (of which I am the curator. Thanks in advance to anyone who can help. Regards. Robert King --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Jan 27 01:54:16 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34146-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 26 Jan 2005 20:54:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from gx2.optonline.net (gx2.optonline.net [167.206.112.44]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 26 Jan 2005 20:54:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org ([209.237.226.90]) by gx2.optonline.net (InterMail vG.1.00.00.00 201-2136-104-20040331) with SMTP id <20050127015409.IUFN3617.gx2.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> for <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>; Wed, 26 Jan 2005 20:54:09 -0500 Received: (qmail 6765 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 27 Jan 2005 01:54:03 +0000 Received: (qmail 6751 invoked from network); Thu, 27 Jan 2005 01:54:02 +0000 Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 21:01:02 -0500 From: Al C <xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Self-promo/new release To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BE1DB58D.8081%xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Hi all, Since some people have claimed that they don't mind self promotion type posts, Here ya go... New omnid full legth release on Retinascan Records. Go here for details/mp3 clips: http://www.retinascan.de/compactdiscs/fcd48.htm also out now: omnid "Wrong Number" 3"cd-r on Authorised Version http://www.a-version.co.uk/releases.htm best, albert casais --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Jan 27 00:39:34 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34145-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 26 Jan 2005 19:39:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from gx2.optonline.net (gx2.optonline.net [167.206.112.44]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 26 Jan 2005 19:39:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org ([209.237.226.90]) by gx2.optonline.net (InterMail vG.1.00.00.00 201-2136-104-20040331) with SMTP id <20050127003927.FCIG3617.gx2.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> for <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>; Wed, 26 Jan 2005 19:39:27 -0500 Received: (qmail 73413 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 27 Jan 2005 00:39:28 +0000 Received: (qmail 73402 invoked from network); Thu, 27 Jan 2005 00:39:28 +0000 Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 01:39:24 +0100 From: Arie van Schutterhoef <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] MIDI software question/webcam as a controller? In-reply-to: <xxxxx.xxx.xxx.xxx.x.xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx.xxx.x> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <l03130303be1de8433b9a@[213.84.105.55]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@x-x.xxx> <BE1D7D5E.328C%xxxx_xxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@x-x.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >i believe Image/ine development has halted. -Dead as a dead parrot can be and that's pretty dead.... http://www.mtholyoke.edu/~ebarnes/python/dead-parrot.htm AvS . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ...................................................................... ` |Schreck Ensemble . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . + ` |# -laboratory for live electro-acoustic music- # | | http://www.schreck.nl/ | | http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/ | ` *===========================================================++ ` |Compositions http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/compo.html | ` |Samples http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/samp.html | ` |Patches http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/pat.html | ` |Videos http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/video.html | ` |Scores http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/scores.html | *===========================================================++ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ...................................................................... --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Jan 27 00:34:07 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34144-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.112]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 26 Jan 2005 19:34:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 26 Jan 2005 19:34:07 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 69433 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 27 Jan 2005 00:34:05 +0000 Received: (qmail 69421 invoked from network); Thu, 27 Jan 2005 00:34:04 +0000 Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 00:34:00 +0000 From: xxxx-xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx Subject: Re: Re: [microsound] MIDI software question/webcam as a controller? To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Openwave WebEngine, version 2.8.13.1 (webedge20-101-1100-20040114) Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx you could also check VNS (very nervous system) http://homepage.mac.com/davidrokeby/softVNS.html j-l > > From: tkrakowiak <xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> > Date: 2005/01/26 on PM 10:10:47 GMT > To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> > Ämne: Re: [microsound] MIDI software question/webcam as a controller? > > > check out STEIM software, Big Eye > > http://www.steim.org/steim/products.html > > > cheers > t > > > On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 17:01:18 -0500, Adam Young <xxxx_xxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> > wrote: > > > > > I¹m looking for software that will accomplish a somewhat simple task: > > using > > a webcam to detect color, motion, light, etc and translate that > > information > > into midi information. I¹d be shocked if this hasn¹t been done already, > > and > > I¹d really like to find a download of an application or even some source > > code to do this, as I really don¹t want to ³reinvent the wheel².. > > > > Thanks. > > -adam > > > > adam young > > tractile.net | direwires.com | adyo.info > > > > > > > > -- > Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Jan 27 00:20:09 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34143-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 26 Jan 2005 19:20:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 26 Jan 2005 19:20:09 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 62370 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 27 Jan 2005 00:19:57 +0000 Received: (qmail 62358 invoked from network); Thu, 27 Jan 2005 00:19:57 +0000 Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 16:19:54 -0800 (PST) From: Sean Rooney <xxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] MIDI software question/webcam as a controller? In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@x-x.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Cc: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: xxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx Message-id: <xxxxx.xxx.xxx.xxx.x.xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx.xxx.x> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <BE1D7D5E.328C%xxxx_xxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@x-x.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx i believe Image/ine development has halted. http://www.image-ine.org/ /sean > Have a look at the GEM and PDP externals for Pure Data. They're open > source and very configurable. You could also look at EyesWeb for > windoze, or Imagine for the Mac. > > derek > > > > Adam Young wrote: >> I¹m looking for software that will accomplish a somewhat simple task: >> using >> a webcam to detect color, motion, light, etc and translate that >> information >> into midi information. I¹d be shocked if this hasn¹t been done already, >> and >> I¹d really like to find a download of an application or even some source >> code to do this, as I really don¹t want to ³reinvent the wheel².. > > > -- > derek holzer ::: http://www.umatic.nl > ---Oblique Strategy # 36: > "Consult other sources > -promising > -unpromising" > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? 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Wed Jan 26 23:15:37 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34141-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 26 Jan 2005 18:15:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 26 Jan 2005 18:15:36 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 27418 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 26 Jan 2005 23:15:27 +0000 Received: (qmail 27407 invoked from network); Wed, 26 Jan 2005 23:15:26 +0000 Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 23:13:32 +0000 From: scott allison <xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] MIDI Controllers In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx> X-Originating-IP: [68.165.209.33] X-Sender: xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Bcc: Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Originating-Email: [xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Jan 2005 23:14:01.0337 (UTC) FILETIME=[B8956E90:01C503FC] I have half a dre bank (two pocket controlers) 32 knobs, they are great, very tiny, steel, the pots are solid. main draw back - you have to carry the big ass wallwarts and use a usb/midi interface. The evolution stuff felt kinda cheap and toy like to me, all plastic parts, I bet if you had one of those controllers in a bag and say was on a bus there would be a really good chance you would find that the knobs had broken off, I say go with the german engineering if you can, I got mine off ebay for fairly cheap. >are the knobs sturdy enough for heavy use? i noticed the evolution >uc33 knobs seem to wear out. >the faderfox.de controllers are very nice too. and battery operated. >>I have the Drehbank, and it's a great controller. The >>editor leaves a lot to be desired, but generally I just >>leave the Drehbank programmed to do MIDI CC 1-64 and assign >>away in software. Part of my current live kit is Ableton >>with a Drehbank. It's a lethal combination. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Jan 26 22:39:33 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34140-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.110]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 26 Jan 2005 17:39:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 26 Jan 2005 17:39:32 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 12901 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 26 Jan 2005 22:39:26 +0000 Received: (qmail 12891 invoked from network); Wed, 26 Jan 2005 22:39:26 +0000 Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 17:41:45 -0500 From: michael trommer <xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] MIDI Controllers In-reply-to: <BE1D45A4.3283%xxxx_xxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BE1D86D9.1D1%xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.0.0.1309 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx I like the evolution uc-33e a lot...cheap, simple, versatile, light & portable...great fun with ableton. Build quality seems ok, but not spectacular (I have an encore electronics slidemate that's built like a tank...i think their 'knobby' controller' is now on sale, but be aware that there is no osX editor for the thing... www.encoreelectronics.com) On 1/26/05 1:03 PM, "Adam Young" <xxxx_xxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> wrote: > Hello... I¹m basically looking for something with tons of knobs and possibly > a few sliders (14 or 32) > > I really like this: http://www.doepfer.de/db_e.htm > > Anything similar out there? Anything CHEAPER? > > I¹d forgo the sliders, as the machine above definitely would work... > > adam young > tractile.net | direwires.com | adyo.info > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Jan 26 22:27:36 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34139-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 26 Jan 2005 17:27:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 26 Jan 2005 17:27:36 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 5408 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 26 Jan 2005 22:27:29 +0000 Received: (qmail 5398 invoked from network); Wed, 26 Jan 2005 22:27:29 +0000 Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 17:27:21 -0500 From: bruce tovsky <xxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] MIDI software question/webcam as a controller? In-reply-to: <BE1D7D5E.328C%xxxx_xxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Errors-to: xxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=WINDOWS-1252 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <BE1D7D5E.328C%xxxx_xxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx as has already been mentioned, there are objects in the jitter video package for max/msp that do this very thing. you might also check out softVNS and isadora. cheers bruce On Jan 26, 2005, at 5:01 PM, Adam Young wrote: > > I’m looking for software that will accomplish a somewhat simple task: > using > a webcam to detect color, motion, light, etc and translate that > information > into midi information. I’d be shocked if this hasn’t been done > already, and > I’d really like to find a download of an application or even some > source > code to do this, as I really don’t want to “reinvent the wheel”.. > > Thanks. > -adam > > adam young > tractile.net | direwires.com | adyo.info > > > bruce tovsky www.skeletonhome.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Jan 26 22:13:51 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34138-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.82]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 26 Jan 2005 17:13:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 26 Jan 2005 17:13:50 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 97552 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 26 Jan 2005 22:13:44 +0000 Received: (qmail 97505 invoked from network); Wed, 26 Jan 2005 22:13:44 +0000 Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 23:15:56 +0100 From: derek holzer <xxxxx@x-x.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] MIDI software question/webcam as a controller? In-reply-to: <BE1D7D5E.328C%xxxx_xxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@x-x.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-Accept-Language: en Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041206) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <BE1D7D5E.328C%xxxx_xxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Have a look at the GEM and PDP externals for Pure Data. They're open source and very configurable. You could also look at EyesWeb for windoze, or Imagine for the Mac. derek Adam Young wrote: > I¹m looking for software that will accomplish a somewhat simple task: using > a webcam to detect color, motion, light, etc and translate that information > into midi information. I¹d be shocked if this hasn¹t been done already, and > I¹d really like to find a download of an application or even some source > code to do this, as I really don¹t want to ³reinvent the wheel².. -- derek holzer ::: http://www.umatic.nl ---Oblique Strategy # 36: "Consult other sources -promising -unpromising" --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Jan 26 22:13:00 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34137-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.83]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 26 Jan 2005 17:13:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 26 Jan 2005 17:12:59 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 96167 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 26 Jan 2005 22:12:57 +0000 Received: (qmail 96132 invoked from network); Wed, 26 Jan 2005 22:12:55 +0000 Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 17:12:50 -0500 From: Eloy Anzola <xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: RE: [microsound] MIDI software question/webcam as a controller? In-reply-to: <BE1D7D5E.328C%xxxx_xxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> To: 'microsound' <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxx> Organization: groovylab MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4510 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - liberty.dnsprotect.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - hyperreal.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - groovylab.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Eric Singer's MAX/MSP object Cyclop does exactly that: http://www.ericsinger.com/cyclopsmax.html hope it helps, Eloy ----- xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx http://groovylab.com/ > -----Original Message----- > From: Adam Young [mailto:xxxx_xxxxx@xxxxxx.xx] > Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 5:01 PM > To: microsound > Subject: [microsound] MIDI software question/webcam as a controller? > > > > I¹m looking for software that will accomplish a somewhat > simple task: using > a webcam to detect color, motion, light, etc and translate > that information > into midi information. I¹d be shocked if this hasn¹t been > done already, and > I¹d really like to find a download of an application or even > some source > code to do this, as I really don¹t want to ³reinvent the wheel².. > > Thanks. > -adam > > adam young > tractile.net | direwires.com | adyo.info > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Jan 26 22:07:26 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34136-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.111]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 26 Jan 2005 17:07:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 26 Jan 2005 17:07:26 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 92409 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 26 Jan 2005 22:07:15 +0000 Received: (qmail 92396 invoked from network); Wed, 26 Jan 2005 22:07:14 +0000 Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 17:10:47 -0500 From: tkrakowiak <xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] MIDI software question/webcam as a controller? In-reply-to: <BE1D7D5E.328C%xxxx_xxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=utf-8 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Opera M2/7.54 (FreeBSD, build 751) X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <BE1D7D5E.328C%xxxx_xxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx check out STEIM software, Big Eye http://www.steim.org/steim/products.html cheers t On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 17:01:18 -0500, Adam Young <xxxx_xxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> wrote: > > I¹m looking for software that will accomplish a somewhat simple task: > using > a webcam to detect color, motion, light, etc and translate that > information > into midi information. I¹d be shocked if this hasn¹t been done already, > and > I¹d really like to find a download of an application or even some source > code to do this, as I really don¹t want to ³reinvent the wheel².. > > Thanks. > -adam > > adam young > tractile.net | direwires.com | adyo.info > > -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Jan 26 22:01:28 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34135-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.112]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 26 Jan 2005 17:01:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 26 Jan 2005 17:01:27 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 87403 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 26 Jan 2005 22:01:23 +0000 Received: (qmail 87390 invoked from network); Wed, 26 Jan 2005 22:01:23 +0000 Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 17:01:18 -0500 From: Adam Young <xxxx_xxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] MIDI software question/webcam as a controller? To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BE1D7D5E.328C%xxxx_xxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_+xmx794/nYShbHHgeF4NFQ)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.1.2418 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_+xmx794/nYShbHHgeF4NFQ) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I¹m looking for software that will accomplish a somewhat simple task: using a webcam to detect color, motion, light, etc and translate that information into midi information. I¹d be shocked if this hasn¹t been done already, and I¹d really like to find a download of an application or even some source code to do this, as I really don¹t want to ³reinvent the wheel².. Thanks. -adam adam young tractile.net | direwires.com | adyo.info --Boundary_(ID_+xmx794/nYShbHHgeF4NFQ)-- From ???@??? Wed Jan 26 21:20:33 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34134-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.109]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 26 Jan 2005 16:20:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 26 Jan 2005 16:20:33 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 61091 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 26 Jan 2005 21:20:28 +0000 Received: (qmail 61081 invoked from network); Wed, 26 Jan 2005 21:20:28 +0000 Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 14:20:23 -0700 From: Dan Heidebrecht <xxx.xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] MIDI Controllers In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: Dan Heidebrecht <xxx.xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=Cc5GH8HPdjYEdICGZ9LzhCgVuPdoxq8pq1j+sCirkRbTvIQYElwRN/SSMMWGwfpDAGMBScqSLOldGkYYY/FSD0jB0Pu4QdhkY/8NJ9yL8UbVfkYwfBlkthMmtn5uAP6XJf5uQoZo1E524aCzquJnCjXwsImTkzhH8eAQg2LBDd4= X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <BE1D45A4.3283%xxxx_xxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx@xxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx i've been using the bcr2000 for about 3-5 hours a day for the last two months. it's been powered on continuously. i generally don't like the quality of behringer equipment - this seems to be an exception for me. the knob action loosened up a little bit - but they don't move side-to-side or anything like that, and the values they send are solid (i.e. they don't drift). the faderfox controllers look really nice - but they won't ship them to the US - otherwise i would have tried them. On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 21:56:59 +0100, robert van heumen <xxxxxx@xxxxx.xx> wrote: > are the knobs sturdy enough for heavy use? i noticed the evolution uc33 > knobs seem to wear out. > the faderfox.de controllers are very nice too. and battery operated. > robert > > > On Jan 26, 2005, at 19:45, Tom Butcher wrote: > > > > > I have the Drehbank, and it's a great controller. The > > editor leaves a lot to be desired, but generally I just > > leave the Drehbank programmed to do MIDI CC 1-64 and assign > > away in software. Part of my current live kit is Ableton > > with a Drehbank. It's a lethal combination. > > > > t > > > >> Hello... I¹m basically looking for something with tons of knobs and > >> possibly > >> a few sliders (14 or 32) > >> > >> I really like this: http://www.doepfer.de/db_e.htm > >> > >> Anything similar out there? Anything CHEAPER? > >> > >> I¹d forgo the sliders, as the machine above definitely would work... > >> > >> adam young > >> tractile.net | direwires.com | adyo.info > >> > >> > >> > > > > --- > > Tom Butcher > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > website: http://www.microsound.org > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Jan 26 21:13:11 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34133-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 26 Jan 2005 16:13:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 26 Jan 2005 16:13:10 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 55374 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 26 Jan 2005 21:13:09 +0000 Received: (qmail 55364 invoked from network); Wed, 26 Jan 2005 21:13:08 +0000 Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 13:12:10 -0800 From: roberth <xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Show announcements To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <003301c503eb$d147f900$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 Content-type: text/plain; reply-type=response; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx i also like release announcements and gigs anouncements, even if they aren't in my city they are interesting. robert horton ----- Original Message ----- From: "david golightly" <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> To: <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 11:56 AM Subject: Re: [microsound] Show announcements = costly faux-pas? > second that. i actually really look forward to release announcements, > especially when done by artists themselves and not by labels etc.... > listening to each other's work is at least as important as discussing it. > as for shows, i like knowing about things going on - it helps to know > about venues and scenes in different parts of the world where one can > play, if passing through. also, at this point the volume isn't nearly so > high as to be irritating. > > can't very well have theory without practice, can we... > > david g > >>From: "Pat Gillis" <xxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> >>Reply-To: "Pat Gillis" <xxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> >>To: <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> >>Subject: Re: [microsound] Show announcements = costly faux-pas? >>Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 20:59:27 -0500 >> >>I guess it is a list admin question, but so long as the show referred to >>is within the realm of what the list is 'about', what's the problem? Is >>there some expectation that members are here only to discuss tools, >>techniques, history and critical theory, with nothing to offer by way of >>public expression of their own efforts (or shut up about it if they do)? >>In which case, are release announcements ever more unacceptable? >> >>Just curious. >> >>Pat > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Jan 26 20:58:10 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34132-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 26 Jan 2005 15:58:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 26 Jan 2005 15:58:10 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 45859 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 26 Jan 2005 20:57:15 +0000 Received: (qmail 45520 invoked from network); Wed, 26 Jan 2005 20:57:08 +0000 Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 21:56:59 +0100 From: robert van heumen <xxxxxx@xxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] MIDI Controllers In-reply-to: <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx@xxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <BE1D45A4.3283%xxxx_xxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx@xxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx are the knobs sturdy enough for heavy use? i noticed the evolution uc33 knobs seem to wear out. the faderfox.de controllers are very nice too. and battery operated. robert On Jan 26, 2005, at 19:45, Tom Butcher wrote: > > I have the Drehbank, and it's a great controller. The > editor leaves a lot to be desired, but generally I just > leave the Drehbank programmed to do MIDI CC 1-64 and assign > away in software. Part of my current live kit is Ableton > with a Drehbank. It's a lethal combination. > > t > >> Hello... I¹m basically looking for something with tons of knobs and >> possibly >> a few sliders (14 or 32) >> >> I really like this: http://www.doepfer.de/db_e.htm >> >> Anything similar out there? Anything CHEAPER? >> >> I¹d forgo the sliders, as the machine above definitely would work... >> >> adam young >> tractile.net | direwires.com | adyo.info >> >> >> > > --- > Tom Butcher > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? 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Wed Jan 26 20:09:19 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34130-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.82]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 26 Jan 2005 15:09:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 26 Jan 2005 15:09:19 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 6183 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 26 Jan 2005 20:09:11 +0000 Received: (qmail 6082 invoked from network); Wed, 26 Jan 2005 20:09:10 +0000 Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 21:08:36 +0100 From: tl <xxxxxx.xx@xxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] [ot] q for traktion users In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: de, en-us, en Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; de-AT; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20041217 X-Authenticated: #10712873 X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx hope this can answer your question: http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=64644 for future tracktion related questions check the tracktion/'raw material software' forum: http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=22 normally you get useful answers from tracktion aficionados... 8pointer. Kim Cascone wrote: > I'm working on a sound installation project in Mackie's Traktion > 1.6.0.1 - they announced this version as a free download a couple of > months ago... > being indoctrinated primarily in Pro Tools I got past Traktion's > 'pseudo-Live' interface, managed to create an edit, placed clips into > it and now I want to mix it down using a midi fader box... > so my question is: can I assign midi controllers (continuous > controllers and not keynums) to a tracks volume (or a VST for that > matter)? and if so, how do I do this? > I get the feeling this might be a Traktion 2.0 feature... :( > if not then is there an FOSS program for OS X that can do this? --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Jan 26 19:57:41 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34129-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 26 Jan 2005 14:57:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 26 Jan 2005 14:57:41 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 97842 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 26 Jan 2005 19:57:10 +0000 Received: (qmail 97809 invoked from network); Wed, 26 Jan 2005 19:57:10 +0000 Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 14:56:43 -0500 From: david golightly <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Show announcements = costly faux-pas? In-reply-to: <011601c5034a$ab4de800$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx> X-Originating-IP: [64.253.118.140] X-Sender: xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Bcc: Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Originating-Email: [xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Jan 2005 19:57:05.0449 (UTC) FILETIME=[35C40190:01C503E1] second that. i actually really look forward to release announcements, especially when done by artists themselves and not by labels etc.... listening to each other's work is at least as important as discussing it. as for shows, i like knowing about things going on - it helps to know about venues and scenes in different parts of the world where one can play, if passing through. also, at this point the volume isn't nearly so high as to be irritating. can't very well have theory without practice, can we... david g >From: "Pat Gillis" <xxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> >Reply-To: "Pat Gillis" <xxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> >To: <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> >Subject: Re: [microsound] Show announcements = costly faux-pas? >Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 20:59:27 -0500 > >I guess it is a list admin question, but so long as the show referred to is >within the realm of what the list is 'about', what's the problem? Is there >some expectation that members are here only to discuss tools, techniques, >history and critical theory, with nothing to offer by way of public >expression of their own efforts (or shut up about it if they do)? In which >case, are release announcements ever more unacceptable? > >Just curious. > >Pat --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Jan 26 19:24:59 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34127-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 26 Jan 2005 14:24:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from gx2.optonline.net (gx2.optonline.net [167.206.112.44]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 26 Jan 2005 14:24:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org ([209.237.226.90]) by gx2.optonline.net (InterMail vG.1.00.00.00 201-2136-104-20040331) with SMTP id <20050126192453.OXPA3617.gx2.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> for <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>; Wed, 26 Jan 2005 14:24:53 -0500 Received: (qmail 70561 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 26 Jan 2005 19:24:49 +0000 Received: (qmail 70549 invoked from network); Wed, 26 Jan 2005 19:24:48 +0000 Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 12:24:45 -0700 From: Dan Heidebrecht <xxx.xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] MIDI Controllers In-reply-to: <BE1D45A4.3283%xxxx_xxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: Dan Heidebrecht <xxx.xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=Y4CgLzqgYJaisrHAkcKAzjLcxEpbv/u/0J5Ygl/+5azUt4uXlOEjO+lhytfyPpHTZvsyl7mJ7c+9sCVX6pvzVcF81xXXBs8fjM+TjJ9DJTsdOKCK+O/Z2Ed3V7HhretXVdY4rPRrQJ5Y4AkJVyYafXz7M0JEI/H5NtpC9kmW7oM= X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <BE1D45A4.3283%xxxx_xxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx I've been using the Behringer BCR2000 for a few months now - very reliable and easy to set up: 32 endless rotary controllers for less than USD200. http://www.behringer.com/BCR2000/index.cfm?lang=ENG they also have one with 8 motorized faders that costs just a little more than USD200: http://www.behringer.com/BCF2000/index.cfm?lang=ENG On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 13:03:32 -0500, Adam Young <xxxx_xxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> wrote: > Hello... I¹m basically looking for something with tons of knobs and possibly > a few sliders (14 or 32) > > I really like this: http://www.doepfer.de/db_e.htm > > Anything similar out there? Anything CHEAPER? > > I¹d forgo the sliders, as the machine above definitely would work... > > adam young > tractile.net | direwires.com | adyo.info > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Jan 26 19:03:30 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34126-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 26 Jan 2005 14:03:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 26 Jan 2005 14:03:30 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 56570 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 26 Jan 2005 19:03:07 +0000 Received: (qmail 56560 invoked from network); Wed, 26 Jan 2005 19:03:07 +0000 Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 14:06:37 -0500 From: tkrakowiak <xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] MIDI Controllers In-reply-to: <BE1D45A4.3283%xxxx_xxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=utf-8 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Opera M2/7.54 (FreeBSD, build 751) X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <BE1D45A4.3283%xxxx_xxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx hey, check out www.ucapps.de best, t On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 13:03:32 -0500, Adam Young <xxxx_xxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> wrote: > Hello... I¹m basically looking for something with tons of knobs and > possibly > a few sliders (14 or 32) > > I really like this: http://www.doepfer.de/db_e.htm > > Anything similar out there? Anything CHEAPER? > > I¹d forgo the sliders, as the machine above definitely would work... > > adam young > tractile.net | direwires.com | adyo.info > > -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Jan 26 18:53:17 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34125-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 26 Jan 2005 13:53:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 26 Jan 2005 13:53:17 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 49231 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 26 Jan 2005 18:53:07 +0000 Received: (qmail 49218 invoked from network); Wed, 26 Jan 2005 18:53:06 +0000 Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 13:53:01 -0500 From: "Martine H. Crispo" <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] MIDI Controllers In-reply-to: <BE1D45A4.3283%xxxx_xxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.609) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=WINDOWS-1252 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <BE1D45A4.3283%xxxx_xxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Evolution UC-33e Very cheap and easy to use! but... the manual sucks! http://www.evolution.co.uk/company/news_ucc33e.htm > Hello... I’m basically looking for something with tons of knobs and > possibly > a few sliders (14 or 32) > > I really like this: http://www.doepfer.de/db_e.htm > > Anything similar out there? Anything CHEAPER? > > I’d forgo the sliders, as the machine above definitely would work... > > adam young > tractile.net | direwires.com | adyo.info > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Jan 26 18:48:35 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34124-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.109]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 26 Jan 2005 13:48:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 26 Jan 2005 13:48:35 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 45791 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 26 Jan 2005 18:48:30 +0000 Received: (qmail 45780 invoked from network); Wed, 26 Jan 2005 18:48:30 +0000 Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 10:45:47 -0800 (PST) From: Tom Butcher <xxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] MIDI Controllers In-reply-to: <BE1D45A4.3283%xxxx_xxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx@xxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=X-UNKNOWN Content-transfer-encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <BE1D45A4.3283%xxxx_xxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> X-Authentication-warning: tank.x09music.com: tom owned process doing -bs List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx I have the Drehbank, and it's a great controller. The editor leaves a lot to be desired, but generally I just leave the Drehbank programmed to do MIDI CC 1-64 and assign away in software. Part of my current live kit is Ableton with a Drehbank. It's a lethal combination. t > Hello... I¹m basically looking for something with tons of knobs and possibly > a few sliders (14 or 32) > > I really like this: http://www.doepfer.de/db_e.htm > > Anything similar out there? Anything CHEAPER? > > I¹d forgo the sliders, as the machine above definitely would work... > > adam young > tractile.net | direwires.com | adyo.info > > > --- Tom Butcher --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Jan 26 18:32:21 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34123-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.109]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 26 Jan 2005 13:32:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 26 Jan 2005 13:32:20 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 38058 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 26 Jan 2005 18:32:17 +0000 Received: (qmail 38045 invoked from network); Wed, 26 Jan 2005 18:32:16 +0000 Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 13:32:10 -0500 From: bruce tovsky <xxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] MIDI Controllers In-reply-to: <BE1D45A4.3283%xxxx_xxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Errors-to: xxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=WINDOWS-1252 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <BE1D45A4.3283%xxxx_xxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx if you are handy with a soldering iron, and have a lot of spare time (and patience) you might try these: http://www.ucapps.de/index.html http://www.doepfer.de/home_e.htm the first link (to the midibox forum, a diy group) is the more comprehensive one, lots of info and an active user forum. the doepfer stuff is more basic but still well thought-out and people are doing interesting stuff with it. cheers bruce On Jan 26, 2005, at 1:03 PM, Adam Young wrote: > Hello... I’m basically looking for something with tons of knobs and > possibly > a few sliders (14 or 32) > > I really like this: http://www.doepfer.de/db_e.htm > > Anything similar out there? Anything CHEAPER? > > I’d forgo the sliders, as the machine above definitely would work... > > adam young > tractile.net | direwires.com | adyo.info > > > bruce tovsky www.skeletonhome.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Jan 26 18:03:44 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34122-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.82]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 26 Jan 2005 13:03:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 26 Jan 2005 13:03:44 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 23687 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 26 Jan 2005 18:03:40 +0000 Received: (qmail 23677 invoked from network); Wed, 26 Jan 2005 18:03:40 +0000 Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 13:03:32 -0500 From: Adam Young <xxxx_xxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] MIDI Controllers To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BE1D45A4.3283%xxxx_xxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_QPwHm8mWX6qUraL+bmNXkg)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.1.2418 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_QPwHm8mWX6qUraL+bmNXkg) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello... I¹m basically looking for something with tons of knobs and possibly a few sliders (14 or 32) I really like this: http://www.doepfer.de/db_e.htm Anything similar out there? Anything CHEAPER? I¹d forgo the sliders, as the machine above definitely would work... adam young tractile.net | direwires.com | adyo.info --Boundary_(ID_QPwHm8mWX6qUraL+bmNXkg)-- From ???@??? Wed Jan 26 19:31:40 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34128-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.82]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 26 Jan 2005 14:31:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 26 Jan 2005 14:31:40 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 73653 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 26 Jan 2005 19:31:36 +0000 Received: (qmail 73639 invoked from network); Wed, 26 Jan 2005 19:31:36 +0000 Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 09:53:04 -0800 From: Kim Cascone <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] [ot] q for traktion users To: microsound_list <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Loop-Detect: 1 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx I'm working on a sound installation project in Mackie's Traktion 1.6.0.1 - they announced this version as a free download a couple of months ago... being indoctrinated primarily in Pro Tools I got past Traktion's 'pseudo-Live' interface, managed to create an edit, placed clips into it and now I want to mix it down using a midi fader box... so my question is: can I assign midi controllers (continuous controllers and not keynums) to a tracks volume (or a VST for that matter)? and if so, how do I do this? I get the feeling this might be a Traktion 2.0 feature... :( if not then is there an FOSS program for OS X that can do this? --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Jan 25 15:06:20 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34111-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.112]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 25 Jan 2005 10:06:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 25 Jan 2005 10:06:19 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 10816 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 25 Jan 2005 15:06:17 +0000 Received: (qmail 10800 invoked from network); Tue, 25 Jan 2005 15:06:16 +0000 Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 16:05:57 +0100 From: Kassen <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] [ot] the 56k challenge To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <00a001c503b8$8b180480$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> <00e001c4fa93$a4fb36c0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@x-x.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx derek holzer; > Another idea would be to provide song "fragements" that could be > arranged randomly, in a playlist, or by some other set of instructions. > There was a whole bunch of stuff done on the Fallt site a while back > that simply used the broswer's "refresh" function to mix a series of > *extremely* small fragments. Total size of the various "tracks" ranged > started somewhere around 6 or 12 Kb. I think maybe Pimmon was involved > in that project. Similarly, Gescom´s release "MD" takes advantage of the data compression of minidisks. Because of the data compression and thus the relatively large buffer minidisk players can be randomised or programed so there will be audio without gaps inbetween tracks. Quite usefull, I think, to be able to use such advantages of a medium. It would´ve been nice if such releases would be more common and usable as a creative plaything, much like locked grooves on records. Kas. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Jan 25 14:59:06 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34110-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 25 Jan 2005 09:59:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 25 Jan 2005 09:59:06 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 6885 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 25 Jan 2005 14:59:03 +0000 Received: (qmail 6875 invoked from network); Tue, 25 Jan 2005 14:59:02 +0000 Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 15:58:41 +0100 From: Kassen <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] thoughts on the 56k chalenge and other things To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <007901c503b7$87f97be0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx greg g; > no, you're missing the point. everyone here is really obsessed with all > these "constraints" and stuff, like only using certain software or encoding, > or certain samples, like the microsound releases for example. Makes perfect sense. It might be hard to find some rules to determine wether something is indeed good but then again, it´s not that much easier to objectively verify some random piece was indeed based on -say- field recordings of Berlin or inspired by some writer..... The one problem might be that people who write very high quality material will often also be very critical of themselves while a lot of mediocre pieces come from people who believe themselves to be "the new messiah" (or Aphex or Tiesto as the case may be). This might adversely affect the selection of pieces uploaded. Perhaps your project should be based on people sending in "good" pieces by their friends (of cource with the permission of those friends)? I don´t think I´m even completely joking here. The more I contemplated that paragraph before hitting "send" the more sense it made. Kas. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Jan 26 02:11:55 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34121-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.112]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 25 Jan 2005 21:11:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 25 Jan 2005 21:11:55 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 52949 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 26 Jan 2005 02:11:53 +0000 Received: (qmail 52939 invoked from network); Wed, 26 Jan 2005 02:11:53 +0000 Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 18:11:49 -0800 (PST) From: Aaron Ximm <xxxxx@xxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] [EVENT][SF,cA] Field Effects 21 To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx@xxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-WELL-Auth: Yes X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.80/682/Mon Jan 24 10:53:43 2005 clamav-milter version 0.80j on smtp.well.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx As long as the topic is quasi-tolerated events announcements, I might as well take the opportunity to announce: Field Effects 21 ~ featuring ~ Yuko Nexus6 & Mariko Tijiri Scott Arford Friday, January 28th, 2005 Doors 8 pm show around 9 964 Natoma, San Francisco, CA (USA) $6-10 requested donation, no one turned away Seating mostly on futons and beanbags to encourage comfortable deep listening. Depending on weather hot or cold drinks will be available. With luck someone will bake cookies. Much more about the show: http://www.quietamerican.org/fe21.html More about the series: http://www.fieldeffects.org aaron xxxxx@xxxx.xxx http://www.quietamerican.org | quod omne animal post | | cogitum est triste... | --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Jan 26 02:00:53 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34120-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 25 Jan 2005 21:00:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from gx2.optonline.net (gx2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.112.44]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 25 Jan 2005 21:00:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org ([209.237.226.90]) by gx2.optonline.net (InterMail vG.1.00.00.00 201-2136-104-20040331) with SMTP id <20050126020047.LNAV28021.gx2.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> for <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>; Tue, 25 Jan 2005 21:00:47 -0500 Received: (qmail 48523 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 26 Jan 2005 02:00:46 +0000 Received: (qmail 48513 invoked from network); Wed, 26 Jan 2005 02:00:46 +0000 Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 20:59:27 -0500 From: Pat Gillis <xxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Show announcements = costly faux-pas? To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: Pat Gillis <xxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <011601c5034a$ab4de800$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx> Organization: Set Management, Inc. MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_dgXV5EZMGY/cNP/Ybfna9w)" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH at out011.verizon.net from [70.21.95.184] at Tue, 25 Jan 2005 20:00:37 -0600 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_dgXV5EZMGY/cNP/Ybfna9w) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I guess it is a list admin question, but so long as the show referred to is within the realm of what the list is 'about', what's the problem? Is there some expectation that members are here only to discuss tools, techniques, history and critical theory, with nothing to offer by way of public expression of their own efforts (or shut up about it if they do)? In which case, are release announcements ever more unacceptable? Just curious. Pat --Boundary_(ID_dgXV5EZMGY/cNP/Ybfna9w)-- From ???@??? Wed Jan 26 01:48:37 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34119-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.113]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 25 Jan 2005 20:48:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 25 Jan 2005 20:48:37 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 42268 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 26 Jan 2005 01:48:32 +0000 Received: (qmail 42257 invoked from network); Wed, 26 Jan 2005 01:48:31 +0000 Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 02:48:09 +0100 From: ale*** <xxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] 70's Japanese electronic music To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <011001c50349$1d281830$xxxxxxxx@xxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1478 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx I just found it out on Earlabs: From the booklet: Since the foundation of the studio of radio NHK, Tokyo in 1954, the development of electro-acoustic music in Japan has shown a constant exchange between national tradition and techniques imported from the West. The Japanese contribution is especially interesting in the field of combied electronic instrumental music. Japan has a rich variety of traditional instruments, and there are many which blend particularly happily with electronically produced sound. However, the meeting of the two sound-worlds has been most rewarding in musical froms where both modern techniques and traditional eleemnts are readily adoptable and sometimes singularly convergent. Elements borrowed by Mayuzumi and Moroi from the vocal puntuations of the Noo theatre, or the sound patterns of the shamizen are significant in this respect. Such borrowings might determine perhaps a refined breaking-up of the beat, or afain a stretching of tempo in accordance with the flow of the musical material. From the standpoint of our own western conception of tempo, we still sense an alien quality in Japanese electro-acoustic music. http://www.earlabs.org/label/lc/lc012b.htm some microsounders may find it interesting. Best, ale*** --- http://www.pachinkostudio.com http://www.12k.com/term/term10.htm --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Jan 26 00:56:02 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34118-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.111]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 25 Jan 2005 19:56:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 25 Jan 2005 19:56:00 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 19959 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 26 Jan 2005 00:56:00 +0000 Received: (qmail 19949 invoked from network); Wed, 26 Jan 2005 00:55:59 +0000 Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 16:55:56 -0800 (PST) From: Sean Rooney <xxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Show announcements = costly faux-pas? In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Cc: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: xxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx Message-id: <xxxxx.xxx.xxx.xxx.x.xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx.xxx.x> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx well, i don't know if there's a list rule against it or not, but I for one don't mind announcements. Especially shows like this one, which looks really good. /sean > I was just about to put a show announcement on here, > then realized that I seem to be one of very few people > who does this. Have I been bugging people with these > all this time? This is a venue that includes > "microsoundy" stuff in the range of what we book. > > Here's the announcement in very brief mode > > Thu, 1/27 8-10 pm. > Luggage Store Gallery > 1007 Market St @ 6th > San Francisco > $6-10 sliding scale > > Electronic glitches, drones, hums, textures, washes, > perhaps some notes. > > with miba (Kristin Miltner & Mark Bartscher) > and Antimatter (Xopher Davidson) > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Jan 26 00:49:59 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34117-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 25 Jan 2005 19:49:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 25 Jan 2005 19:49:59 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 16497 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 26 Jan 2005 00:49:56 +0000 Received: (qmail 16486 invoked from network); Wed, 26 Jan 2005 00:49:56 +0000 Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 01:49:47 +0100 From: Arie van Schutterhoef <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound]'S T A L A G M I E T E N 1' (ahum...) In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-Sender: xxxxxx@xxx.xxxxxx.xx (Unverified) To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Cc: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <l03130300be1c96398021@[213.84.105.55]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <l03130301be0dd25fae4f@[213.84.105.55]> <l03130301be0dd25fae4f@[213.84.105.55]> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >i was listening to 'stalagmieten 1' -That's very nice of you... >and wished to hear it stretched out somewhat ... -Which you clearly did... >in order to be aware of the harmonies -Repeated listening could be beneficial.. >without having to work quite so hard. -Practise makes perfect... >for educational purposes only, probably, most likely. -I think that I don't this easy offering of other one's work so much: 1: You changed it beyond any recognition and didn't add anything to it yourself, which be kind of an interpretation; 2. What kind of educational purposes do you have in mind? 3. Most importantly, you never asked me in the first place... So I would prefer that you do these things first before you place this on your server, in the mean time either refer to it's original location on the web or remove it. I'm not against your suggestion about 'educational purposes', but this is not a proper way of conduct. AvS . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ...................................................................... ` |Schreck Ensemble . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . + ` |# -laboratory for live electro-acoustic music- # | | http://www.schreck.nl/ | | http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/ | ` *===========================================================++ ` |Compositions http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/compo.html | ` |Samples http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/samp.html | ` |Patches http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/pat.html | ` |Videos http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/video.html | ` |Scores http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/scores.html | *===========================================================++ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ...................................................................... --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Jan 25 23:39:55 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34116-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.110]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 25 Jan 2005 18:39:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 25 Jan 2005 18:39:55 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 73188 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 25 Jan 2005 23:39:51 +0000 Received: (qmail 73174 invoked from network); Tue, 25 Jan 2005 23:39:51 +0000 Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 15:38:51 -0800 From: Bill Jarboe <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound]' S T A L A G M I E T E N 1 ' In-reply-to: <l03130301be0dd25fae4f@[213.84.105.55]> X-Originating-IP: 4.243.39.214 To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=simple; s=test1; d=earthlink.net; h=Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Message-Id:Content-Transfer-Encoding:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer; b=BPz2cJOdUeXagfkC2HX/hgVapaIdBYnr44+ZgXYOlNP9hvY9CmS2bfiEicADPgRY; X-ELNK-Trace: f6dd78c2ac81c6498eb596e2db90c20d239a348a220c2609f22e04fcb920638841ed09ee547ea29ba8438e0f32a48e08350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <l03130301be0dd25fae4f@[213.84.105.55]> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx hi, i was listening to 'stalagmieten 1' and wished to hear it stretched out somewhat ...in order to be aware of the harmonies without having to work quite so hard. ( 17.9 mb zipped mp4 ) for educational purposes only, probably, most likely. http://klatch.co.uk/billjarboe/Stalagmiet1aifT2.mp4.zip Bill On Jan 14, 2005, at 11:48 AM, Arie van Schutterhoef wrote: > > > ' S T A L A G M I E T E N 1 ' > > - Arie van Schutterhoef - > > > http://knorretje.hku.nl/~schreck/SmietMP3/Stalagmiet1.mp3 > > > Realized in the home-studio of the composer. > Original sounds recorded with the BassBoxes > http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/bassbox.html > in the 'Veem'-Theatre, Amsterdam, during recording > sessions with Hans van Eck and Hans van Koolwijk. > > Recorded different flutes on the BassBoxes, through > extreme close-miking to capture the varying spectra > and timbres, that were triggered by tightly structured > pulse-trains, according to the Fibonacci-series. > > Sound treatment using different FFT-processes and > cross-convolution. Used programs were 'Ceres3','MetaSynth', ' > SoundHack', 'SonicWorx Artist' and 'Csound'on running on > Silicon Graphics and Apple Computers. > > > > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > ..................................................................... > > ` |Schreck Ensemble . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . + > > ` |# -laboratory for live electro-acoustic music- # | > | http://www.schreck.nl/ | > | http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/ | > ` *===========================================================++ > ` |Compositions http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/compo.html | > ` |Samples http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/samp.html | > ` |Patches http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/pat.html | > ` |Videos http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/video.html | > > ` |Scores http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/scores.html | > > *===========================================================++ > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > ..................................................................... > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Jan 25 23:11:59 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34115-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.110]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 25 Jan 2005 18:11:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 25 Jan 2005 18:11:59 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 48634 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 25 Jan 2005 23:11:56 +0000 Received: (qmail 48620 invoked from network); Tue, 25 Jan 2005 23:11:56 +0000 Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 15:11:53 -0800 (PST) From: Matt Davignon <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Show announcements = costly faux-pas? In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx I was just about to put a show announcement on here, then realized that I seem to be one of very few people who does this. Have I been bugging people with these all this time? This is a venue that includes "microsoundy" stuff in the range of what we book. Here's the announcement in very brief mode Thu, 1/27 8-10 pm. Luggage Store Gallery 1007 Market St @ 6th San Francisco $6-10 sliding scale Electronic glitches, drones, hums, textures, washes, perhaps some notes. with miba (Kristin Miltner & Mark Bartscher) and Antimatter (Xopher Davidson) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Jan 25 22:14:05 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34114-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.83]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 25 Jan 2005 17:14:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 25 Jan 2005 17:14:05 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 8055 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 25 Jan 2005 22:14:03 +0000 Received: (qmail 8040 invoked from network); Tue, 25 Jan 2005 22:14:02 +0000 Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 23:13:59 +0100 From: Jose Luis Gonzalez <xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] European Distribution In-reply-to: <001201c50231$6e3ef540$xxxxxxxx@xxxxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: Jose Luis Gonzalez <xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=Vk4UqxuWscnoC9BlzC0yNtQAVirFTavKWv+kQl7q1Dirys6lLTeKQHbA/6Zj2LZcZVMs/pUo+4WJrkoCni70gRNqMFetd1JwA8ZbGUznGHW68zgJvjq4ae0hfxFtI/aVsiTgGHy2XdIr/tx6SmJmXvhB/zSjd16o1dHk8IRyJ0k= X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> <002501c501d4$92928ea0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> <001201c50231$6e3ef540$xxxxxxxx@xxxxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx I forget to comment you two spanish e music distributors (Level and jaxx records both in madrid) it might be easy to contact with them through internet good luck On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 16:25:15 -0000, David @ Audiobulb <xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx.xx> wrote: > Does anyone know who are considered the most electronic music friendly > distributors in the Europe? > > I'm looking for coverage in Scandinavia, France, Germany, Spain in > particular.... Would appreciate any links to reputable companies dealing > with those territories. > > Who is Mille Plateaux with now? > > Thanks David > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Jan 25 17:50:38 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34113-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 25 Jan 2005 12:50:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 25 Jan 2005 12:50:38 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 78177 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 25 Jan 2005 17:50:35 +0000 Received: (qmail 78167 invoked from network); Tue, 25 Jan 2005 17:50:35 +0000 Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 12:49:17 -0500 From: Pat Gillis <xxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] NYC Onkyo Fest in April 2005 To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: Pat Gillis <xxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <004f01c50306$31b7e6b0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx> Organization: Set Management, Inc. MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_q3aMqqFkSnpny9p7Ui3djA)" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH at out002.verizon.net from [70.21.95.184] at Tue, 25 Jan 2005 11:50:28 -0600 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_q3aMqqFkSnpny9p7Ui3djA) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Go here for details: http://www.japansociety.org/events/event_detail.cfm?id_event=1702597446&id_performance=536554939 cheers, Pat (my first post to this list, I'm subbed to the digest) --Boundary_(ID_q3aMqqFkSnpny9p7Ui3djA)-- From ???@??? 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(trx1) .Wang Inc. (trx2) .Dan Warburton .Warmdesk .Keith Fullerton Whitman .Wobbly (trx1) .Wobbly (trx2) .Christopher Willits Y .Tetsuro Yasunaga Z .z_e_l_l_e (trx1) .z_e_l_l_e (trx2) .Zenial [Palsecam] .Zeitblom .Harald "Sack" Ziegler .Carlos Zingaro 123... .87 central .*0 : .. .. .. Curated by TU M' : .. .. .. Thanks to K.Michael Babcock / Aesova for the web space. .. .. .. .. Tu M'p3 www.tu-m.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Jan 25 11:43:31 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34108-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 25 Jan 2005 06:43:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 25 Jan 2005 06:43:31 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 58256 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 25 Jan 2005 11:43:27 +0000 Received: (qmail 58245 invoked from network); Tue, 25 Jan 2005 11:43:26 +0000 Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 12:43:23 +0100 From: Marco Messina <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] R:[microsound] European Distribution In-reply-to: <001201c50231$6e3ef540$xxxxxxxx@xxxxx> To: "microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BE1BEF6B.6D1F%xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_ZZlW5yea83Ma5TYsIh0XdA)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.0.0.040405 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_ZZlW5yea83Ma5TYsIh0XdA) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Ciao, I¹ m working with MDM <http://www.mutualism.de/> Very professional and friendly Best marco messina [] [] [] [] [] [] http://www.mousikelab.com/ http://www.novenove.it/ http://www.folderstudio.com/ [] [] [] [] [] [] Da: "David @ Audiobulb" <xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx.xx> Risposta: "microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Data: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 16:25:15 -0000 A: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Oggetto: [microsound] European Distribution Does anyone know who are considered the most electronic music friendly distributors in the Europe? I'm looking for coverage in Scandinavia, France, Germany, Spain in particular.... Would appreciate any links to reputable companies dealing with those territories. Who is Mille Plateaux with now? Thanks David --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org --Boundary_(ID_ZZlW5yea83Ma5TYsIh0XdA)-- From ???@??? Tue Jan 25 11:47:34 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34109-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 25 Jan 2005 06:47:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 25 Jan 2005 06:47:34 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 60042 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 25 Jan 2005 11:47:27 +0000 Received: (qmail 59751 invoked from network); Tue, 25 Jan 2005 11:47:26 +0000 Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 11:46:54 +0100 From: douglas benford <xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxxxx.xx.xx> Subject: [microsound] INTERPLAY 3 in London X-Sender: xxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xx.xx To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <a06110426be1bd3dcacbe@[81.152.102.194]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_6cmKnhI8X6Z81INhx2b/IQ)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_6cmKnhI8X6Z81INhx2b/IQ) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sprawl presents INTERPLAY 3 - 2005 the 3rd mini-festival of international collaborations Weds 9th and Thurs 10th February 2005 Once again London's haven for experimental audio, Sprawl, will be inviting a selection of International artists for 2 nights of unique live collaborations, traversing the sonic realms of minimal & post-techno beats, new dub, voice, pop, jazz and improvisation. Interplay 3 is dedicated to uncovering new relationships as well as established clashes of style and technique, from novel instrumental approaches to twisted technology. Weds 9th Feb POLE (scape/mute) + DEADBEAT (scape/Intr_version) MARKUS SCHMICKLER (pluramon) + THOMAS LEHN (mimeo) MAX EASTLEY (obscure/bip hop) + FREEFORM (skam/sub rosa) Thurs 10th Feb STEPHAN MATHIEU (orthlorng/sirr) + SI-CUT.DB (fallt/bip-hop) LEAFCUTTER JOHN (planet mu) + JANEK SCHAEFER (audiOh!/sirr) SCANNER (sub rosa/bette) + IRIS GARRELFS (bip hop) PLUS: The early evening will feature a sound based visual programme, including audio-visual collaborations from DFuse, who have worked with Burnt Friedmann, Kid 606 and recently Beck This project is supported by the Goethe-Institut London and the PRS Foundation VENUE: Spitz, Spitalfields Market,109 Commercial Street, London E1 8BG DATE: Wednesday 9th and Thursday 10th February 2005 TIME: 8pm - midnight PRICE: £8 / £6 concs, £12 for both nights BOX OFFICE: 0207 392 9032, www.spitz.co.uk CONTACT: xxxx@xxxxxx.xxx.xx WEB: www.sprawl.org.uk --Boundary_(ID_6cmKnhI8X6Z81INhx2b/IQ)-- From ???@??? Tue Jan 25 04:53:40 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34107-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.113]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 24 Jan 2005 23:53:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 24 Jan 2005 23:53:40 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 6687 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 25 Jan 2005 04:53:38 +0000 Received: (qmail 6677 invoked from network); Tue, 25 Jan 2005 04:53:38 +0000 Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 23:53:30 -0500 From: Kurt Ralske <xxxxxxxx@xxxx-xxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Morton Feldman: Triadic Memories To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BE1B3AFA.2BAD9%xxxxxxxx@xxxx-xxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.0.2006 X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Morton Feldman: Triadic Memories Michael Century, piano Kurt Ralske, video Friday January 28 / 8pm Chapel and Cultural Center at Rensselaer Troy, NY Triadic Memories was composed in 1979, one of Morton Feldman's long, ruminative late works. Quiet throughout and eccentrically repetitive, this piece invites the listener to experience a now-unusual kind of long duration. For this performance, a newly created video will be projected, inspired by Feldman's interest in the carpets of the Middle East. The composer was struck by parallels between his own off-centered, memory-twisting rhythms and what he called the "disproportionate symmetry" of certain Turkish rugs' skewed repetition of motif. Created by Kurt Ralske, this video is not a literally synchronized accompaniment, but a parallel and complementary track that scans, scrolls, cross-fades and morphs between mostly detailed carpet images. In this conjuncture of music and image, we propose another kind of disproportionate symmetry. Whereas Feldman recast musical time with aspects of the stasis and scale of painting and textiles, here the static carpet image is rendered with aspects of Feldman's ineffable quietude and slow tempos. Michael Century is a musician and professor in the Department of the Arts at Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute. http://www.arts.rpi.edu/people/century/ Kurt Ralske is a NYC-based video artist, composer, and programmer. Co-winner in 2003 of Transmediale first prize for media art, he recently created the video installation permanently on view in the the lobby of the re-opened Museum of Modern Art. More info and directions http://www.rpi.edu/web/C+CC/ccc/ccc.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Jan 24 20:32:01 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34101-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.113]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 24 Jan 2005 15:32:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 24 Jan 2005 15:32:00 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 14897 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 24 Jan 2005 20:31:56 +0000 Received: (qmail 14881 invoked from network); Mon, 24 Jan 2005 20:31:55 +0000 Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 02:21:32 +0200 From: ".` =?ISO-8859-1?B?sLcnICCxICBgLrAgJ7c=?=" <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] thoughts on the 56k chalenge and other things In-reply-to: <xxxx.xxx.xxx.xxx.x.xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx.xxx.x> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BE1B5DAC.27%xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Sean Rooney Geschrieben hat . :: . ::: : . > Hi, my opinion only . . . >Is there some usefulness in being > able to make small sounds/scores? yes > Do people expect/hope to find some > creative tactics that could be used elsewhere? yes > Or is it the creative > challenge itself, separate from anything that might be learned from it? yes > of course, afterwards what can be achieved with small files need not be so strict as to require a 56k limitation - but, for web-based audio personally have discovered some very interesting facts about mp3 encoding and what not. useful too. merci ! > /sean . 1001 € . . € € € ' € ® . €€ .·€ · ·. € €. . € . . · € ´·. · € ´ · . . --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Jan 24 23:38:04 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34106-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 24 Jan 2005 18:38:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 24 Jan 2005 18:38:04 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 93482 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 24 Jan 2005 23:38:00 +0000 Received: (qmail 93472 invoked from network); Mon, 24 Jan 2005 23:37:59 +0000 Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 00:39:58 +0100 From: derek holzer <xxxxx@x-x.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Berlin.Soundscape-FM.Net To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@x-x.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041206) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx CALL FOR CONTRIBUTIONS Berlin.Soundscape-FM : A City of Sounds : 4-8 February 2005 http://berlin.soundscape-fm.net "How would you build a city of sounds?" Berlin.Soundscape-FM is a collaborative soundwork, featuring field recordings taken from the city of Berlin, which will be broadcast locally via FM radio during the Transmediale 05 festival, and archived in a user-uploadable database complete with an interactive soundmap of the city. During the days of 4-8 February 2005, sound artists, amateur sound hunters, phonographers, among other interested participants, will collaborate on gathering sounds from different places within the city of Berlin. A physical workspace, located at the Transmediale Festival in the Haus der Kulturen der Welt, will be a post-production booth for the gathered sounds which can be uploaded immediately in a database system. Uploads can also be made remotely via the Internet. The uploaded sounds are accessible online via an interactive sound map, and will be broadcasted via several local FM radio programs in Berlin during the Festival. We are seeking contributions of environmental recordings made in the city of Berlin during any time period. Be it the sound of autos around Alexanderplatz, distant Turkish music overheard in Kreuzberg or the rain hitting the gutter outside a flat window in Friedrichshain, you will be able to upload it to the Soundscape-FM server by locating your sound on a scalable map of Berlin. To contribute, please send an email to xxxxx@xxxxxx.xx with the subject "Berlin.Soundscape-FM.net login", and please give a short description of the sounds you would like to upload. Please note that, while "found" music is acceptable as content, this project is not a forum for people's bands or solo musical projects. Such tracks, along with direct transfers of copyrighted material, will be removed. Thanks for understanding ;-) Berlin.Soundscape-FM.net has been created by Sara Kolster, Derek Holzer and Marc Boon for the Transmediale 05 Festival's BASEMENT workspace, curated by Carsten Stabenow and Stefan Rikeles. The Soundscape-FM project was originally commissioned for the Garage Festival 2004, with inspiration from Yannick Dauby and the Phonographic Migrations series, and with technical assistance from Olaf Matthes. http://berlin.soundscape-fm.net http://www.soundscape-fm.net contact: xxxxx@xxxxxx.xx -- derek holzer ::: http://www.umatic.nl ---Oblique Strategy # 36: "Consult other sources -promising -unpromising" --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Jan 24 18:51:29 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34092-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.109]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 24 Jan 2005 13:51:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 24 Jan 2005 13:51:29 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 53986 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 24 Jan 2005 18:51:23 +0000 Received: (qmail 53974 invoked from network); Mon, 24 Jan 2005 18:51:23 +0000 Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 00:40:52 +0200 From: ".` =?iso-8859-1?Q?=B0=B7=27=20=B1=20=60=2E=B0=20=27=B7=7F?=" <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] thoughts on the 56k chalenge and other things To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75C-CCK-MCD {C-UDP; EBM-APPLE} (Macintosh; U; PPC) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-Accept-Language: en Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> <002501c501d4$92928ea0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> <000801c50230$15673be0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx hallo, the 56k challenge = great $%#*!@ idea. perhaps, we should share research and methods so we can all learn best course of aktion. i hope the consensus is to move forward. . 1001 ¿ . .: . ][+ l º • a - d · · .º : ·. ` . · • å b · n g . : . · .º : . · '. ` º: . --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Jan 24 22:16:23 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34105-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 24 Jan 2005 17:16:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 24 Jan 2005 17:16:23 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 66147 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 24 Jan 2005 22:16:16 +0000 Received: (qmail 66131 invoked from network); Mon, 24 Jan 2005 22:16:15 +0000 Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 22:16:16 +0000 From: ". m u r m e r ." <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] [playlist] framework - 21.01.05 To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <016c01c50262$52b96720$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_wvNX2IMfwRsh2jATICJQQA)" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_wvNX2IMfwRsh2jATICJQQA) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit framework broadcasts live every friday (except the first one of each month) on resonance104.4fm in london (uk) or worldwide on http://www.resonancefm.com between 8:30 and 9:30pm gmt, and is repeated the following wednesday between 11:00am and 12:00 noon gmt next live broadcast: 27.01.05 ~ time zone converter: http://www.thesaturnv.com/converter.html RESONANCE FM'S PROGRAMMING IS PRODUCED ENTIRELY BY VOLUNTEERS; PLEASE HELP US TO CONTINUE BY MAKING A DONATION. 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THANK YOU! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- framework - phonography/field recording; contextual and decontextualized sound activity presented by patrick mcginley we took detailed looks at a few releases in this edition, namely the latest instalment of the phonography organisation's series of raw field recording compilations. we also listened to several tracks from crouton's reissue of an early irr. app. (ext.) work, dust pincher appliances, keith berry's latest release buddha's mile, and a recent release from the copyleft netlabel test tube by spanish artist ubeboet. coming up this friday, we'll be listening, among other things, to the and/oar release by sawako, yours gray, and some internet-released work (on the netlabel stasisfield) by and/oar's (and phonography.org's) own dale lloyd. again, we are always looking for material for the show, whether raw field recordings, field recording based composition or introduction submissions. send material, released or not, on any format, to the address below. we are also hoping to have live performances as often as possible, so if you are in or passing through london please get in touch! framework 31 nevill road london n16 8sl uk xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 21.01.05 this edition will be rebroadcast this wednesday, 25.01.05, at 11:00am gmt (artist / title / album / label) adam wimbush / framework intro recorded through the window of a bathroom in barbados, featuring the voice of a mysterious woman known only as liz xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx.xx murmer / 38,000 for madrid / phonography.org 6 (compilation) / phonography.org the sound of a stadiumful of people during a minute's silence http://www.phonography.org irr. app (ext.) / narcoinvitatorintraphasieschatological music box / dust pincher appliances / crouton crackling chorus of music boxes and rumbling drones http://www.holocenesound.org/irr, http://www.croutonmusic.com frederic yarm / bottle neck traffic / phonography.org 6 (compilation) / phonography.org acoustic processing applied through the capture of sound from inside a bottle http://www.phonography.org keith berry / - / buddha's mile / authorised version sublime field recordings and tonal elements slowly develop and disperse http://www.inbetweensilence.com, http://www.a-version.co.uk/ josh russell / wall mounted gas heater overheating and shutting down / phonography.org 6 (compilation) / phonography.org almost industrial sounding chaotic rhythms, crackles and rumblings http://www.phonography.org irr. app (ext.) / a body rendered disjecta membra through the application of dust pincher appliances / dust pincher appliances / crouton rhythmic mechanics and clacking bones are pervaded over by a dysfunctional intercom http://www.holocenesound.org/irr, http://www.croutonmusic.com perri lynch / walking through eyebeam / phonography.org 6 (compilation) / phonography.org reverberations of public space with an odd collection of mechanical and (mechanically?) natural sound http://www.phonography.org ubeboet / north wind / bleak ep / test tube metallic rain and organic scratchings filter through multi-levelled tonescapes xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx, http://www.monocromatica.com/netlabel mathieu ruhlmann / water pipe pond drone / phonography.org 6 (compilation) / phonography.org ubiquitous narrow pipe reverberations tempered with an active environment enfolding it http://www.phonography.org irr. app. (ext.) / desist in ceasing to cease to exist / dust pincher appliances / crouton more layerings of indiscernible acoustic sources and percussing found objects http://www.holocenesound.org/irr, http://www.croutonmusic.com ubeboet / nocturno (danny kreutzfeldt version) / bleak ep / test tube hissing and collapsing tones lead through the erosion xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx, http://www.monocromatica.com/netlabel -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- framework intro submissions: 1) take yourself and an audio recording device to a location of your choice 2) record for AT LEAST 1 minute before you - 3) read the following text: welcome to framework. framework is a show consecrated to field recording, and it's use in composition. field recording, phonography, the art of sound-hunting; open your ears and listen! 4) continue your recording for AT LEAST 2 minutes after you've finish speaking 5) send the recording on any format to the address above, or as an mp3 via email thanks! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- the framework 2003 cd has been reprinted and is now once again available directly from the resonancefm online shop, along with a selection of other benefit cds, t-shirts, and general paraphernalia. drop in here to have a look: http://www.resonancefm.com/shop.php framework 2003 resonancefm benefit cd featuring highlights from the year's broadcasting rob grant & melanie clifford / framework intro thomas dimuzio / unearth & lift and spear / sonicism / rrrecords chris watson / river mara at night / stepping into the dark / touch johannes helden / - / sketchbook / trente oiseaux toy bizarre / - / kdi dctb 116 / absurd murmer / liquid solid / definition / absurd jgrzinich & seth nehil / the distant edge / confluence / intransitive seth nehil & jgrzinich / the mirrored corner / stria / erewhon annette lissauer / framework intro toby paddock / air, surface and magnetic vibrations / - / - steve roden / - / resonant cities / trente oiseaux francisco lopez / untitled #101 / untitled (2000) / ignis projekt mnortham / ancient sewer pipe, valletta, malta / phonography.org 5 / phonography.org the quiet american / donkey trains leaving marpha, nepal / phonography.org 4 / phonography.org steve barsotti / trainyard presence / phonography.org 5 / phonography.org k. m. krebs / jericho sailing center (nautical gamelan) / phonography.org 4 / phonography.org david daniell / highway 371, forty miles south of farmington, january 19, 1998, 2:25 pm / sem / antiopic joyce hinterding / - / spectral / antiopic/sigma editions david daniell / dixon lake road, july 31, 1999, 5:45 am / sem / antiopic tacet ncv / live on framework jean-luc guionnet & bertrand denzler / live on framework dallas simpson / framework intro --Boundary_(ID_wvNX2IMfwRsh2jATICJQQA)-- From ???@??? Mon Jan 24 22:15:53 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34104-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 24 Jan 2005 17:15:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 24 Jan 2005 17:15:53 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 65145 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 24 Jan 2005 22:15:48 +0000 Received: (qmail 65135 invoked from network); Mon, 24 Jan 2005 22:15:47 +0000 Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 22:14:16 +0000 From: scott allison <xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: RE: [microsound] hard disk recorders roundup In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@x-x.xxx> X-Originating-IP: [68.165.209.33] X-Sender: xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Bcc: Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Originating-Email: [xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Jan 2005 22:15:02.0331 (UTC) FILETIME=[265878B0:01C50262] A possible solution to the high price of buying pro-level audio gear - one of my old roomates from undergrad works for a pro audio shop in LA, they rent out everything from the Fostex FR2 all the way up to the Aaton Cantar and can send the gear via Fed Ex, also they have a huge selection of extemely sensitive mics for rent, I never considered that before, but it could save you a lot of money, if you say knew that for a weekend you are planning a trip to make recordings and wanted to rent the gear for a fraction of the price instead of buying it. This could way of working could allow you to choose specific gear for specific types of recordings/recording situations and never really have to own anything. I see this method as sort of a way around starting to drop thousands on gear, instead maybe, get a R1 and a very good mic, then rent the rest of the gear when needed. Save your money, buy a house instead. Also, no one has mentioned this, but you can also rent/buy a portable Nagra, which is a tape based system, some people will argue/perfer this medium over digital, granted the fidelity ceiling is lower, but I wonder, would the Nagra sound better than most stuff under 1000$?, say like the R1? The portable Nagras, even used, are not cheap. I wonder is Watson used a Nagra for his older recordings? Also on the very cheap end is the micro-cassette recorder, I know a few people who have managed to make some really really excellent recordings with a micro-cassette recorder using an external mic, granted its a mono medium. Best Scott >A couple people asked me offlist what I thought might be a higher >grade portable HD recorder than the Editrol R1 I mentioned earlier. >Specifically, pro-quality recorders with XLR connections, digital >IO, USB or firewire, more than 2 channels, ability to burn CDRs, >decent battery life, etc... This list got posted to the Phonography >list by Mark Griswold a while back, and I consider it an excellent >starting point if you have USD 1500+ to spend and want the same kind >of gear that gets used by video and film production companies to do >their sound. > >http://www.trewaudio.com/downloads.htm >http://www.trewaudio.com/download/non%20linear%20comp%20chart.pdf > >Based on the research I've done [but no field testing yet!], my >recommendations for stereo would go to either the HHB Portadisk >[msrp USD 1600] or the Fostex FR2 [msrp USD 1500], depending on >which features and interface strikes you best. > >You can get 4 channels from the Sound Devices 744T [msrp 4,250], >while Fostex makes a 6 channel model for about 8,500,. HHB has an 8 >channel monster going for 10,000, and Zaxcom's Deva V hauls a >whopping 10 channels for USD 13,00. Top of the line, the Bentley of >non-linear recorders, is the 8 channel Aaton Cantar, ringing in >around 14,500, but man is it sweet!http --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Jan 24 22:03:41 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34103-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 24 Jan 2005 17:03:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 24 Jan 2005 17:03:41 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 57132 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 24 Jan 2005 22:03:39 +0000 Received: (qmail 57121 invoked from network); Mon, 24 Jan 2005 22:03:38 +0000 Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 14:03:31 -0800 From: Galen Elfert <xxxxxxxx@xxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] Re: L.E.M.U.R. In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx@xxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i X-Virus-Scanned: by antibody.sfu.ca running antivirus scanner X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx So near and yet so far: http://www.capturedbyrobots.com/ > From: Kim Cascone <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> > Subject: L.E.M.U.R. > > http://www.juilliard.edu/update/journal/j_articles385.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Jan 24 21:08:15 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34102-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 24 Jan 2005 16:08:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 24 Jan 2005 16:08:15 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 31874 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 24 Jan 2005 21:08:13 +0000 Received: (qmail 31862 invoked from network); Mon, 24 Jan 2005 21:08:12 +0000 Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 22:07:56 +0100 From: stephan mathieu <xxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] re: Hippo MP3 In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Cc: xxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <R02010100-1037-05B4B3FC6E4C11D983B9000D933B19D8@[84.132.111.74]> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mailsmith 2.1.1 (Blindsider) Demo Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx hi lars > it seems that the amount of CD's released with > usable sounds are limited (more like slim to none). for a great hippo recording you could check chris watsons 'outside the circle of fire' CD on touch. although, the recording isnt necessarily 'usable'. - stephan --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Jan 24 20:24:27 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34100-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 24 Jan 2005 15:24:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 24 Jan 2005 15:24:26 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 9247 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 24 Jan 2005 20:24:07 +0000 Received: (qmail 9125 invoked from network); Mon, 24 Jan 2005 20:24:06 +0000 Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 12:24:03 -0800 (PST) From: carl kruger <xxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] [ot] robo-wars: land of the brave In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=JIZ2MWi9FZa5e2wt06or6uNNMAf9O/Gh/bfWAlh5P9wHTWyPODKJTcAOnTYDcDPXmJoOWMPl1VmFd4IyiqenC5wtCI6HdhwZktoCRXDIg5Hx7BJDccLDqwsAA8tlZpYrEC0QVpm9BwujjAKVBOl6j3wSuPdVZ6hsuk5FvDaeHpI= ; X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx these colors don't run ... they roll ... > here's one for all the arthur kroker fans... > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4199935.stm __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Easier than ever with enhanced search. Learn more. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Jan 24 20:23:27 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34099-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 24 Jan 2005 15:23:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 24 Jan 2005 15:23:27 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 7897 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 24 Jan 2005 20:23:21 +0000 Received: (qmail 7887 invoked from network); Mon, 24 Jan 2005 20:23:20 +0000 Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 21:23:17 +0100 From: Arie van Schutterhoef <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] thoughts on the 56k chalenge and other things In-reply-to: <xxxx.xxx.xxx.xxx.x.xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx.xxx.x> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <l03130301be1b09887dba@[213.84.105.55]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> <002501c501d4$92928ea0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> <000801c50230$15673be0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >Is there some usefulness in being able to make small sounds/scores? -Brevity. AvS . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ...................................................................... ` |Schreck Ensemble . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . + ` |# -laboratory for live electro-acoustic music- # | | http://www.schreck.nl/ | | http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/ | ` *===========================================================++ ` |Compositions http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/compo.html | ` |Samples http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/samp.html | ` |Patches http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/pat.html | ` |Videos http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/video.html | ` |Scores http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/scores.html | *===========================================================++ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ...................................................................... --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Jan 24 20:19:32 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34098-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.113]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 24 Jan 2005 15:19:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 24 Jan 2005 15:19:32 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 4328 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 24 Jan 2005 20:19:26 +0000 Received: (qmail 4317 invoked from network); Mon, 24 Jan 2005 20:19:26 +0000 Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 12:19:24 -0800 (PST) From: Sean Rooney <xxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] thoughts on the 56k chalenge and other things In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Cc: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: xxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx Message-id: <xxxx.xxx.xxx.xxx.x.xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx.xxx.x> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> <002501c501d4$92928ea0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> <000801c50230$15673be0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Hi, An honest question (not trying to prolong a flamewar): what is it about this challenge that appeals to people (I know the reasons that some list members don't like it)? Is there some usefulness in being able to make small sounds/scores? Do people expect/hope to find some creative tactics that could be used elsewhere? Or is it the creative challenge itself, separate from anything that might be learned from it? Like I said, its an honest question, not intended to find fault or anything. Just trying to understand the appeal. /sean > > hallo, > > > the 56k challenge = great $%#*!@ idea. perhaps, > we should share research and methods so we can all > learn best course of aktion. > > i hope the consensus is to move forward. > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Jan 24 20:09:44 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34097-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 24 Jan 2005 15:09:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 24 Jan 2005 15:09:44 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 97358 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 24 Jan 2005 20:09:39 +0000 Received: (qmail 97347 invoked from network); Mon, 24 Jan 2005 20:09:39 +0000 Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 15:13:36 -0500 From: graham miller <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] [ot] robo-wars To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73C-SYMPA (Macintosh; U; PPC) Content-type: text/plain; x-mac-creator=4D4F5353; x-mac-type=54455854; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable X-Accept-Language: en,fr-CA Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx now, if we could only get skynet up and running... Patrick Valiquet wrote: > here's one for all the arthur kroker fans... > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4199935.stm > > ===== > ØäPnî?áÃ`Ìgx9KlóS•Ìh´9»=œ®_®*ö±ql°<|Pô“)”ì1xS@?ñì?eúë©? > Çñ=*>2åûMsØ?h#Õxk·#Í6*ü:´kB*÷Ú©¶*ö“™GÎ3ü>u4Öÿ***Ú÷ç5 > À8¡ http://fragm.net/pinothefrog/ @*ø’ÈWϱïÚU€IéÑ**1Ñmà?s > è+?5E“)I? 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Mon Jan 24 19:47:38 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34096-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.114]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 24 Jan 2005 14:47:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 24 Jan 2005 14:47:38 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 87395 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 24 Jan 2005 19:47:35 +0000 Received: (qmail 87384 invoked from network); Mon, 24 Jan 2005 19:47:34 +0000 Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 14:47:31 -0500 (EST) From: Patrick Valiquet <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] [ot] robo-wars To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx here's one for all the arthur kroker fans... http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4199935.stm ===== ØäPnîáÃ`Ìgx9KlóS•Ìh´9»=œ®_®½ö±ql°<|Pô“)”ì¹xS@‹ñìðeúë© Çñ=Ž>²åûMsØ›h#Õ×k·#Í6žü:´kB*÷Ú©¶½ö“™Gγü>u4ÖÿžŽ¾Ú÷ç5 À8¡ http://fragm.net/pinothefrog/ @½ø’ÈWϱïÚU¤IéѼž¹ÑmàÝs è+ý5E“)IÐ ÃBâÅ/²@A€gºžët(‹eÙį–mè0%—íDcWïýŸ_Ÿ‰— þ[>¿B±¸ Ÿ_i}¾Ëï³5ý_/çËÿ,¿k—믾C`©rÉ?Ÿ Ä×îõ$2,‚µðÈd7’ ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Jan 24 19:13:58 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34094-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 24 Jan 2005 14:13:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 24 Jan 2005 14:13:58 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 69008 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 24 Jan 2005 19:13:55 +0000 Received: (qmail 68981 invoked from network); Mon, 24 Jan 2005 19:13:53 +0000 Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 14:17:35 -0500 From: graham miller <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] thoughts on the 56k chalenge and other things To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73C-SYMPA (Macintosh; U; PPC) Content-type: text/plain; x-mac-creator=4D4F5353; x-mac-type=54455854; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable X-Accept-Language: en,fr-CA Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> <002501c501d4$92928ea0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> <000801c50230$15673be0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx great signature!! ".` °·' ± `.° '·" wrote: > hallo, > > the 56k challenge = great $%#*!@ idea. perhaps, > we should share research and methods so we can all > learn best course of aktion. > > i hope the consensus is to move forward. > > . 1001 > > > > ¿ . .: . ][+ > > l º > • a > - d > · > > · .º : > ·. ` > > > . > · > > • å > > b · n > > g > . : . · .º : > . · '. > ` º: . > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Jan 24 19:16:02 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34095-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 24 Jan 2005 14:16:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 24 Jan 2005 14:16:02 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 71158 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 24 Jan 2005 19:15:58 +0000 Received: (qmail 71138 invoked from network); Mon, 24 Jan 2005 19:15:57 +0000 Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 20:17:30 +0100 From: derek holzer <xxxxx@x-x.xxx> Subject: [microsound] hard disk recorders roundup To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@x-x.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041206) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx A couple people asked me offlist what I thought might be a higher grade portable HD recorder than the Editrol R1 I mentioned earlier. Specifically, pro-quality recorders with XLR connections, digital IO, USB or firewire, more than 2 channels, ability to burn CDRs, decent battery life, etc... This list got posted to the Phonography list by Mark Griswold a while back, and I consider it an excellent starting point if you have USD 1500+ to spend and want the same kind of gear that gets used by video and film production companies to do their sound. http://www.trewaudio.com/downloads.htm http://www.trewaudio.com/download/non%20linear%20comp%20chart.pdf Based on the research I've done [but no field testing yet!], my recommendations for stereo would go to either the HHB Portadisk [msrp USD 1600] or the Fostex FR2 [msrp USD 1500], depending on which features and interface strikes you best. You can get 4 channels from the Sound Devices 744T [msrp 4,250], while Fostex makes a 6 channel model for about 8,500,. HHB has an 8 channel monster going for 10,000, and Zaxcom's Deva V hauls a whopping 10 channels for USD 13,00. Top of the line, the Bentley of non-linear recorders, is the 8 channel Aaton Cantar, ringing in around 14,500, but man is it sweet! Save your milk-money ;-) d -- derek holzer ::: http://www.umatic.nl ---Oblique Strategy # 36: "Consult other sources -promising -unpromising" --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Jan 24 18:51:35 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34093-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 24 Jan 2005 13:51:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 24 Jan 2005 13:51:35 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 54493 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 24 Jan 2005 18:51:28 +0000 Received: (qmail 54439 invoked from network); Mon, 24 Jan 2005 18:51:28 +0000 Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 10:51:25 -0800 (PST) From: zach layton <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] [ann] Zs and David Grubbs at galapagos 1/26 In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=4PNsufRTYC6V+zB2UvUdDC8JR80lQklqgD6cURjZpvxgjzz05yngk8yghYjxKvEDw+rU6/6BOAyD2+wYhr2h8PajkeXwudQJyQdY95BUz4W69MpubdBpY4mIEXfgRzikDIQ3VCMbqo83tm7axeSYOfznqIOFldLm63iSrdaxS94= ; X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Wednesday, Jan 26th, 10pm... DARMSTADT @ Galapagos presents: Zs with special guest DJ David Grubbs of Drag City and Gastr del Sol! New York's brutal chamber sextet, Zs (www.zzzsss.com) is a band working between the worlds of Avant Rock and New Music. Mostly instrumental, the music often explores the extremes of compositional complexity and virtuosity as well as extended repetition. The sound ranges from bombastic Prog Rock counterpoint to barely audible breathing sounds. Several members contribute compositions, and some pieces are written collaboratively. Zs formed in January 2002 and began performing in September, sharing bills with the Flying Luttenbachers, Touchdown, Gang Gang Dance, Young People, Ty Braxton and other experimental acts in New York and around the Northeast. They also performed in conjunction with Wet Ink Musics, a non-profit curatorial group for New Music, opening for seminal composer Christian Wolff. David Grubbs is a Brooklyn-based musician and writer. His most recent album is "A Guess at the Riddle" (Drag City/FatCat). He has played in Gastr del Sol, The Red Krayola, and Squirrel Bait; directs the Blue Chopsticks record label; and contributes music criticism to the Sueddeutsche Zeitung. All this and more at Darmstadt: Classics of the Avant-Garde listening party $5.00....10pm - late. galapagos 70 north 6 street, williamsburg, ny, 718.384.4586 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Jan 24 18:13:15 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34091-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 24 Jan 2005 13:13:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 24 Jan 2005 13:13:15 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 33046 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 24 Jan 2005 18:13:10 +0000 Received: (qmail 33036 invoked from network); Mon, 24 Jan 2005 18:13:10 +0000 Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 19:14:37 +0100 From: Noisejihad <xxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] Hippo MP3 To: List Microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <014a01c50240$906137a0$xxxxxxxx@xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_1hcEmh1ju7WUoIFFEKpGRA)" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_1hcEmh1ju7WUoIFFEKpGRA) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey all I've uploaded a track, entirely made of sound from hippos, made for and performed at the opening of an exhibition last friday. All the source material were incredibly low-bit and badly compressed soundclips found on the internet, as it seems that the amount of CD's released with usable sounds are limited (more like slim to none). Same goes with the hippo, i discovered, it doesn't have a wide variety of sounds and nor does it use those sounds too often. Anyway the track is called "Post digital hippo collapse" (22.02 m/s - 20.1mb) and can be downloaded from the audio section, bottompage, here www.waldchengarten.dk Comments are welcomed, but please keep them off list... enjoy! Lars IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII Next: Electrical Bonding on Desolation House >>> www.desolationhouse.com Now: Uncomfortable Positions - mp3-ep on Fukk God >>> www.fukkgod.org key to knowledge on danish noise >>> www.noisejihad.dk art >>> www.ideations.dk www.waldchengarten.dk --Boundary_(ID_1hcEmh1ju7WUoIFFEKpGRA)-- From ???@??? Mon Jan 24 17:40:09 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34090-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 24 Jan 2005 12:40:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 24 Jan 2005 12:40:09 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 13028 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 24 Jan 2005 17:39:48 +0000 Received: (qmail 13016 invoked from network); Mon, 24 Jan 2005 17:39:48 +0000 Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 09:38:35 -0800 From: chthonic <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] acoustic and electronic? [was: Death of electronic music] To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>, microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: <IMail v6.05 EVAL> Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: Arie van Schutterhoef <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> Reply-To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 22:16:01 +0100 >>absolutely true. my order to FE last week included both german >>electronic artist chronomad and folk enigma jandek. >-Now the next phase is: > how to inter-connect acoustic and electronic? we do that in our music all the time. some of the tracks are like what i thought "folktronica" would be...folky guitar and singing with crunchy electronic beats. others are electronic-based with acoustic elements. not sure if the best examples are online, but if anyone's interested: http://www.dreamintodust.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Jan 24 16:26:22 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34089-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.112]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 24 Jan 2005 11:26:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 24 Jan 2005 11:26:21 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 78305 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 24 Jan 2005 16:26:17 +0000 Received: (qmail 78293 invoked from network); Mon, 24 Jan 2005 16:26:17 +0000 Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 16:25:15 +0000 From: "David @ Audiobulb" <xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx.xx> Subject: [microsound] European Distribution To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <001201c50231$6e3ef540$xxxxxxxx@xxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 Content-type: text/plain; reply-type=original; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> <002501c501d4$92928ea0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Does anyone know who are considered the most electronic music friendly distributors in the Europe? I'm looking for coverage in Scandinavia, France, Germany, Spain in particular.... Would appreciate any links to reputable companies dealing with those territories. Who is Mille Plateaux with now? Thanks David --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Jan 24 16:12:19 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34088-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.109]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 24 Jan 2005 11:12:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 24 Jan 2005 11:12:19 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 71064 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 24 Jan 2005 16:12:13 +0000 Received: (qmail 71054 invoked from network); Mon, 24 Jan 2005 16:12:13 +0000 Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 10:16:38 -0600 From: DaveX <xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] thoughts on the 56k chalenge and other things To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <000801c50230$15673be0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1478 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> <002501c501d4$92928ea0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > your expectations were too high. Don't flatter yourself. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Jan 24 14:19:47 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34087-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 24 Jan 2005 09:19:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 24 Jan 2005 09:19:47 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 33592 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 24 Jan 2005 14:19:41 +0000 Received: (qmail 33581 invoked from network); Mon, 24 Jan 2005 14:19:41 +0000 Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 09:33:40 -0500 From: john saylor <xx@xxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] thoughts on the 56k chalenge and other things In-reply-to: <002501c501d4$92928ea0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> <002501c501d4$92928ea0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx hi ( 05.01.23 23:21 -0600 ) DaveX: > For some smart folks, who really seem to love music, you sure do work > hard at making composition into some sort of stupid game. you are making an 'OR' when it may be an 'AND': loving music OR playing music games [games can be stupid, but don't have to be] > Frankly, I'm disappointed as hell in the quality of discussion at this > list. your expectations were too high. -- \js &http://or8.net/~johns $ ''=&$'! \*<_-@` !~%{@ ) iraq body count: 15,458 [min] 17,683 [max] --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Jan 24 12:03:39 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34086-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.110]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 24 Jan 2005 07:03:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 24 Jan 2005 07:03:39 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 92364 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 24 Jan 2005 12:03:33 +0000 Received: (qmail 92354 invoked from network); Mon, 24 Jan 2005 12:03:33 +0000 Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 09:03:32 -0300 (ART) From: Zusammen Hangslos <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] [OT] Hardware for Live Performance To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Anyone has played live with the Roland SP-808 Groove Sampler? http://www.loopers-delight.com/tools/sp808/sp808.html Is it enough for a good experimental electronic music performance when the sources are previously created into softwares? Does it handle a huge base wav file and some wav samples in a 100mb zip withou crashing? Please respond me off-list. Thanks and best, Zusa _______________________________________________________ Yahoo! Acesso Grátis - Instale o discador do Yahoo! agora. http://br.acesso.yahoo.com/ - Internet rápida e grátis --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Jan 24 07:30:33 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34085-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 24 Jan 2005 02:30:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 24 Jan 2005 02:30:33 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 70585 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 24 Jan 2005 07:30:32 +0000 Received: (qmail 70575 invoked from network); Mon, 24 Jan 2005 07:30:31 +0000 Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 23:30:23 -0800 From: Sean Rooney <xxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] [ot] the 56k challenge In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@x.xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@x.xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx I think the reason most people focused on that is because that's what was explicitly asked for: From the original email proposal: "i have an idea for a microsound project . lets all compose a work that is over one minute and is no more than 56k in size [wav or mp3]" /sean On Jan 23, 2005, at 8:29 PM, Scott Carver wrote: > Exactly. If the central tenets of the challenge are (a) 56k (b) sound, > then mp3 is probably the the least interesting ways of going about > this. It seems to me there are any number of ways a sound (a sonic > experience?) could be transmitted in a 56k file... I don't think the > way to start is thinking in terms of off-the-shelf data compression > like mp3. Software is one way to approach the problem, but I think > there is a lot of territory here that is left being unexplored. > > - Scott Carver > >> Certainly. >> >> I found it kind of interesting that most people on this list who >> responded immediately focused on mp3s and reducing their size. As if >> the only way to do it is to externally source a larger linear audio >> file you captured and compress it as much as possible > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Jan 24 05:42:26 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34084-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 24 Jan 2005 00:42:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 24 Jan 2005 00:42:06 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 43417 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 24 Jan 2005 05:40:11 +0000 Received: (qmail 43401 invoked from network); Mon, 24 Jan 2005 05:40:11 +0000 Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 21:40:04 -0800 From: Scott Carver <xxxxxxx@x.xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] [ot] the 56k challenge In-reply-to: <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx@xxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@x.xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@x.xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx@xxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx I imagine there might be some territory to be covered by taking the lead of Cardew (by way of Treatise), and creating a 56k file with no explicit decoding procedure at all. - Scott On Jan 23, 2005, at 8:37 PM, Aaron Ximm wrote: >> this. It seems to me there are any number of ways a sound (a sonic >> experience?) could be transmitted in a 56k file... I don't think the > > MIDI files are arguably at least as portable as MP3s. > > And that's a lot of tablature in plaintext... > > fast > > > ----(2)-0-----------(5)-0-------------(2)-0----------(3)(2) > -0---------- > > ------------(3)-5------------(3)-5-----------(3)-5-------------(3) > -5--- > --... > --... > --... > --... > > :D > > aaron > > xxxxx@xxxx.xxx > http://www.quietamerican.org > > | quod omne animal post | > | cogitum est triste... | > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Jan 24 05:17:12 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34083-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.111]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 24 Jan 2005 00:17:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 24 Jan 2005 00:17:12 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 37760 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 24 Jan 2005 05:17:11 +0000 Received: (qmail 37747 invoked from network); Mon, 24 Jan 2005 05:17:11 +0000 Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 23:21:34 -0600 From: DaveX <xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] thoughts on the 56k chalenge and other things To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <002501c501d4$92928ea0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1478 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx " no, you're missing the point. everyone here is really obsessed with all these "constraints" and stuff" *snip* My thoughts exactly. For some smart folks, who really seem to love music, you sure do work hard at making composition into some sort of stupid game. Frankly, I'm disappointed as hell in the quality of discussion at this list. Hopefully, things will improve, but I think I will be lurking until then. DaveX --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Jan 24 04:37:37 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34082-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.109]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 23 Jan 2005 23:37:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 23 Jan 2005 23:37:37 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 25371 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 24 Jan 2005 04:37:36 +0000 Received: (qmail 25361 invoked from network); Mon, 24 Jan 2005 04:37:36 +0000 Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 20:37:30 -0800 (PST) From: Aaron Ximm <xxxxx@xxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] [ot] the 56k challenge In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@x.xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx@xxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-WELL-Auth: Yes X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.80/678/Fri Jan 21 19:20:18 2005 clamav-milter version 0.80j on smtp.well.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@x.xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > this. It seems to me there are any number of ways a sound (a sonic > experience?) could be transmitted in a 56k file... I don't think the MIDI files are arguably at least as portable as MP3s. And that's a lot of tablature in plaintext... fast ----(2)-0-----------(5)-0-------------(2)-0----------(3)(2)-0---------- ------------(3)-5------------(3)-5-----------(3)-5-------------(3)-5--- --... --... --... --... :D aaron xxxxx@xxxx.xxx http://www.quietamerican.org | quod omne animal post | | cogitum est triste... | --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Jan 24 04:29:13 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34081-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 23 Jan 2005 23:29:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 23 Jan 2005 23:29:12 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 21681 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 24 Jan 2005 04:29:12 +0000 Received: (qmail 21671 invoked from network); Mon, 24 Jan 2005 04:29:11 +0000 Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 20:29:04 -0800 From: Scott Carver <xxxxxxx@x.xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] [ot] the 56k challenge In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@x.xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Exactly. If the central tenets of the challenge are (a) 56k (b) sound, then mp3 is probably the the least interesting ways of going about this. It seems to me there are any number of ways a sound (a sonic experience?) could be transmitted in a 56k file... I don't think the way to start is thinking in terms of off-the-shelf data compression like mp3. Software is one way to approach the problem, but I think there is a lot of territory here that is left being unexplored. - Scott Carver > Certainly. > > I found it kind of interesting that most people on this list who > responded immediately focused on mp3s and reducing their size. As if > the only way to do it is to externally source a larger linear audio > file you captured and compress it as much as possible --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Jan 24 04:18:30 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34080-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 23 Jan 2005 23:18:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 23 Jan 2005 23:18:29 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 18318 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 24 Jan 2005 04:18:14 +0000 Received: (qmail 18306 invoked from network); Mon, 24 Jan 2005 04:18:13 +0000 Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 20:17:38 -0800 From: Kevin Ponto <xxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] thoughts on the 56k chalenge and other things In-reply-to: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Provags-ID: perfora.net xxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx login:85f6f213efa75345adbd40246e580591 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Don't worry Greg, I got it...and it was funny. In fact, I propose that for the next 24 hours, the members of this list only post comment to the list that display a good sense of humor... now that's a challenge. k On Jan 23, 2005, at 7:19 PM, greg g wrote: > no, you're missing the point. everyone here is really obsessed with > all these "constraints" and stuff, like only using certain software or > encoding, or certain samples, like the microsound releases for > example. > > so this obviously is a parody of that... how about the constraints > being "good music" for a change > > > >> From: (chris) mandra <xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> >> Reply-To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> >> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> >> Subject: Re: [microsound] thoughts on the 56k chalenge and other >> things >> Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 22:13:21 -0500 >> >> I think greg means "good" as determined by whomever sends something >> in. If you think you're stuff is "good", send it (if you want) >> But I'm just guessing. >> chris >> On Jan 23, 2005, at 10:06 PM, greg g wrote: >> >>> you are thinking way too hard >>> >>> just chill >>> >>> >>>> From: <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> >>>> Reply-To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> >>>> To: "microsound" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> >>>> Subject: Re: [microsound] thoughts on the 56k chalenge and other >>>> things >>>> Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 21:56:24 -0500 >>>> >>>> "good" as determined by who? >>>> are you proposing that your subjective judgement represents a >>>> consensus? >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "greg g" <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> >>>> To: <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> >>>> Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2005 9:20 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [microsound] thoughts on the 56k chalenge and other >>>> things >>>> >>>> >>>> > that's why it's a challenge >>>> > >>>> > better get started. i'm serious >>>> > >>>> > >From: (chris) mandra <xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> >>>> > >Reply-To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> >>>> > >To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> >>>> > >Subject: Re: [microsound] thoughts on the 56k chalenge and other >>>> things >>>> > >Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 21:17:28 -0500 >>>> > > >>>> > >that'll be a small site... >>>> > >On Jan 23, 2005, at 9:13 PM, greg g wrote: >>>> > > >>>> > >>i propose the "good music" challenge--only good music >>>> submissions plz, >>>> > >>that's the only constraint. i'll host the files free >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >>>From: xxxxxxx@xxx.xxx >>>> > >>>Reply-To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> >>>> > >>>To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx) >>>> > >>>Subject: [microsound] thoughts on the 56k chalenge and other >>>> things >>>> > >>>Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 01:07:57 +0000 >>>> > >>> >>>> > >>>the reason i proposed the 56k challenge was because i wanted >>>> to see >>>> what >>>> > >>>would happen if people are limited by certain restraints >>>> .............be >>>> > >>>it physiccal, mental, sonic or file size.....i could have just >>>> as >>>> easily >>>> > >>>proposed a project that involved everyone composing music/art >>>> using >>>> > >>>nothing, but text files or the color red or even better only >>>> the left >>>> or >>>> > >>>right channel. the reason why i chose 56k or smaller was that >>>> i am on a >>>> > >>>cheap laptop in indiana and im working w/ a 56k modem and im >>>> getting >>>> > >>>tired of trying to down load 9MB or larger files....also i >>>> wanted to >>>> > >>>challenge my self to write something that i could easily >>>> upload/down >>>> > >>>load. i personally dont care what format you make the >>>> file.....just >>>> keep >>>> > >>>it under 56k. >>>> > >>> >>>> > >>>-thaniel ion lee///bridle wire >>>> > >>> >>>> > >>>oh, ya >>>> > >>> >>>> > >>>359 true and untrue I statements >>>> > >>>by thaniel ion lee >>>> > >>>online from january 23rd til february 23rd >>>> > >>>located at >>>> > >>>http://thanielionlee.com/ >>>> > >>> >>>> > >>>if you would like to comment on the work kindly send the >>>> comment to >>>> > >>>xxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx ....do not ......i repeat do not send >>>> it to >>>> > >>>everyone who got this email >>>> > >> >>>> > >>>> >>_________________________________________________________________ >>>> > >>FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar - get it now! >>>> > >>http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >>>> >>------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> -- - >>>> > >>To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >>>> > >>For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >>>> > >>website: http://www.microsound.org >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >mandra >>>> > >c:410.258.5281 >>>> > >h:301 772 7376 >>>> > > >>>> > >realtime experimentalist / guitarist for Telesma >>>> > >creator of "the manDrum" >>>> > >...jamming the mainstream in the zips >>>> > >http://defDumbAndBass.com >>>> > >http://telesma23.com >>>> > >http://skywheel.com >>>> > > >>>> > >Come to my very happening *happening* >>>> > >the defDumbAndBass fREAKoUT! >>>> > >happening the 3rd Sunday of EVERY month >>>> > >@ the Royal - 1542 Light Street, Baltimore, MD >>>> > >watch, listen, dance, relax and explore the "known unknowns" >>>> > > >>>> > >AND check out "e+@13" - a new show the first Thursday of every >>>> month at >>>> the >>>> > >13th Floor in Baltimore highlighting live aspects of electronic >>>> music. >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > >>>> >------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> -- >>>> > >To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >>>> > >For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >>>> > >website: http://www.microsound.org >>>> > > >>>> > >>>> > _________________________________________________________________ >>>> > Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! 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Check out the new MSN Search! >>> http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ >>> >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >>> For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >>> website: http://www.microsound.org >>> >>> >> mandra >> c:410.258.5281 >> h:301 772 7376 >> >> realtime experimentalist / guitarist for Telesma >> creator of "the manDrum" >> ...jamming the mainstream in the zips >> http://defDumbAndBass.com >> http://telesma23.com >> http://skywheel.com >> >> Come to my very happening *happening* >> the defDumbAndBass fREAKoUT! >> happening the 3rd Sunday of EVERY month >> @ the Royal - 1542 Light Street, Baltimore, MD >> watch, listen, dance, relax and explore the "known unknowns" >> >> AND check out "e+@13" - a new show the first Thursday of every month >> at the 13th Floor in Baltimore highlighting live aspects of >> electronic music. >> >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> website: http://www.microsound.org >> > > _________________________________________________________________ > Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's > FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Jan 24 04:06:15 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34079-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 23 Jan 2005 23:06:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 23 Jan 2005 23:06:15 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 15506 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 24 Jan 2005 04:06:13 +0000 Received: (qmail 15496 invoked from network); Mon, 24 Jan 2005 04:06:13 +0000 Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 23:07:01 -0500 From: mandra <xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> (chris) Subject: Re: [microsound] thoughts on the 56k chalenge and other things In-reply-to: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx ergo, even though I missed your point, what I wrote is apropos... On Jan 23, 2005, at 10:19 PM, greg g wrote: > no, you're missing the point. everyone here is really obsessed with > all these "constraints" and stuff, like only using certain software or > encoding, or certain samples, like the microsound releases for > example. > > so this obviously is a parody of that... how about the constraints > being "good music" for a change > > > >> From: (chris) mandra <xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> >> Reply-To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> >> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> >> Subject: Re: [microsound] thoughts on the 56k chalenge and other >> things >> Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 22:13:21 -0500 >> >> I think greg means "good" as determined by whomever sends something >> in. If you think you're stuff is "good", send it (if you want) >> But I'm just guessing. >> chris >> On Jan 23, 2005, at 10:06 PM, greg g wrote: >> >>> you are thinking way too hard >>> >>> just chill >>> >>> >>>> From: <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> >>>> Reply-To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> >>>> To: "microsound" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> >>>> Subject: Re: [microsound] thoughts on the 56k chalenge and other >>>> things >>>> Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 21:56:24 -0500 >>>> >>>> "good" as determined by who? >>>> are you proposing that your subjective judgement represents a >>>> consensus? >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "greg g" <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> >>>> To: <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> >>>> Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2005 9:20 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [microsound] thoughts on the 56k chalenge and other >>>> things >>>> >>>> >>>> > that's why it's a challenge >>>> > >>>> > better get started. i'm serious >>>> > >>>> > >From: (chris) mandra <xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> >>>> > >Reply-To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> >>>> > >To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> >>>> > >Subject: Re: [microsound] thoughts on the 56k chalenge and other >>>> things >>>> > >Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 21:17:28 -0500 >>>> > > >>>> > >that'll be a small site... >>>> > >On Jan 23, 2005, at 9:13 PM, greg g wrote: >>>> > > >>>> > >>i propose the "good music" challenge--only good music >>>> submissions plz, >>>> > >>that's the only constraint. i'll host the files free >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >>>From: xxxxxxx@xxx.xxx >>>> > >>>Reply-To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> >>>> > >>>To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx) >>>> > >>>Subject: [microsound] thoughts on the 56k chalenge and other >>>> things >>>> > >>>Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 01:07:57 +0000 >>>> > >>> >>>> > >>>the reason i proposed the 56k challenge was because i wanted >>>> to see >>>> what >>>> > >>>would happen if people are limited by certain restraints >>>> .............be >>>> > >>>it physiccal, mental, sonic or file size.....i could have just >>>> as >>>> easily >>>> > >>>proposed a project that involved everyone composing music/art >>>> using >>>> > >>>nothing, but text files or the color red or even better only >>>> the left >>>> or >>>> > >>>right channel. the reason why i chose 56k or smaller was that >>>> i am on a >>>> > >>>cheap laptop in indiana and im working w/ a 56k modem and im >>>> getting >>>> > >>>tired of trying to down load 9MB or larger files....also i >>>> wanted to >>>> > >>>challenge my self to write something that i could easily >>>> upload/down >>>> > >>>load. i personally dont care what format you make the >>>> file.....just >>>> keep >>>> > >>>it under 56k. >>>> > >>> >>>> > >>>-thaniel ion lee///bridle wire >>>> > >>> >>>> > >>>oh, ya >>>> > >>> >>>> > >>>359 true and untrue I statements >>>> > >>>by thaniel ion lee >>>> > >>>online from january 23rd til february 23rd >>>> > >>>located at >>>> > >>>http://thanielionlee.com/ >>>> > >>> >>>> > >>>if you would like to comment on the work kindly send the >>>> comment to >>>> > >>>xxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx ....do not ......i repeat do not send >>>> it to >>>> > >>>everyone who got this email >>>> > >> >>>> > >>>> >>_________________________________________________________________ >>>> > >>FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar - get it now! >>>> > >>http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >>>> >>------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> -- - >>>> > >>To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >>>> > >>For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >>>> > >>website: http://www.microsound.org >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >mandra >>>> > >c:410.258.5281 >>>> > >h:301 772 7376 >>>> > > >>>> > >realtime experimentalist / guitarist for Telesma >>>> > >creator of "the manDrum" >>>> > >...jamming the mainstream in the zips >>>> > >http://defDumbAndBass.com >>>> > >http://telesma23.com >>>> > >http://skywheel.com >>>> > > >>>> > >Come to my very happening *happening* >>>> > >the defDumbAndBass fREAKoUT! >>>> > >happening the 3rd Sunday of EVERY month >>>> > >@ the Royal - 1542 Light Street, Baltimore, MD >>>> > >watch, listen, dance, relax and explore the "known unknowns" >>>> > > >>>> > >AND check out "e+@13" - a new show the first Thursday of every >>>> month at >>>> the >>>> > >13th Floor in Baltimore highlighting live aspects of electronic >>>> music. >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > >>>> >------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> -- >>>> > >To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >>>> > >For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >>>> > >website: http://www.microsound.org >>>> > > >>>> > >>>> > _________________________________________________________________ >>>> > Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! 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Check out the new MSN Search! >>> http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ >>> >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >>> For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >>> website: http://www.microsound.org >>> >>> >> mandra >> c:410.258.5281 >> h:301 772 7376 >> >> realtime experimentalist / guitarist for Telesma >> creator of "the manDrum" >> ...jamming the mainstream in the zips >> http://defDumbAndBass.com >> http://telesma23.com >> http://skywheel.com >> >> Come to my very happening *happening* >> the defDumbAndBass fREAKoUT! >> happening the 3rd Sunday of EVERY month >> @ the Royal - 1542 Light Street, Baltimore, MD >> watch, listen, dance, relax and explore the "known unknowns" >> >> AND check out "e+@13" - a new show the first Thursday of every month >> at the 13th Floor in Baltimore highlighting live aspects of >> electronic music. >> >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> website: http://www.microsound.org >> > > _________________________________________________________________ > Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! 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Mon Jan 24 03:20:09 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34078-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 23 Jan 2005 22:20:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 23 Jan 2005 22:20:09 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 2298 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 24 Jan 2005 03:20:05 +0000 Received: (qmail 2287 invoked from network); Mon, 24 Jan 2005 03:20:05 +0000 Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 03:19:47 +0000 From: greg g <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] thoughts on the 56k chalenge and other things In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-Originating-IP: [138.88.196.220] X-Sender: xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Bcc: Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Originating-Email: [xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Jan 2005 03:20:01.0091 (UTC) FILETIME=[96D7E930:01C501C3] no, you're missing the point. everyone here is really obsessed with all these "constraints" and stuff, like only using certain software or encoding, or certain samples, like the microsound releases for example. so this obviously is a parody of that... how about the constraints being "good music" for a change >From: (chris) mandra <xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> >Reply-To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> >To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> >Subject: Re: [microsound] thoughts on the 56k chalenge and other things >Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 22:13:21 -0500 > >I think greg means "good" as determined by whomever sends something in. If >you think you're stuff is "good", send it (if you want) >But I'm just guessing. >chris >On Jan 23, 2005, at 10:06 PM, greg g wrote: > >>you are thinking way too hard >> >>just chill >> >> >>>From: <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> >>>Reply-To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> >>>To: "microsound" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> >>>Subject: Re: [microsound] thoughts on the 56k chalenge and other things >>>Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 21:56:24 -0500 >>> >>>"good" as determined by who? >>>are you proposing that your subjective judgement represents a consensus? >>> >>>----- Original Message ----- >>>From: "greg g" <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> >>>To: <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> >>>Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2005 9:20 PM >>>Subject: Re: [microsound] thoughts on the 56k chalenge and other things >>> >>> >>> > that's why it's a challenge >>> > >>> > better get started. i'm serious >>> > >>> > >From: (chris) mandra <xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> >>> > >Reply-To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> >>> > >To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> >>> > >Subject: Re: [microsound] thoughts on the 56k chalenge and other >>>things >>> > >Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 21:17:28 -0500 >>> > > >>> > >that'll be a small site... >>> > >On Jan 23, 2005, at 9:13 PM, greg g wrote: >>> > > >>> > >>i propose the "good music" challenge--only good music submissions >>>plz, >>> > >>that's the only constraint. i'll host the files free >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >>>From: xxxxxxx@xxx.xxx >>> > >>>Reply-To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> >>> > >>>To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx) >>> > >>>Subject: [microsound] thoughts on the 56k chalenge and other >>>things >>> > >>>Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 01:07:57 +0000 >>> > >>> >>> > >>>the reason i proposed the 56k challenge was because i wanted to >>>see >>>what >>> > >>>would happen if people are limited by certain restraints >>>.............be >>> > >>>it physiccal, mental, sonic or file size.....i could have just as >>>easily >>> > >>>proposed a project that involved everyone composing music/art >>>using >>> > >>>nothing, but text files or the color red or even better only the >>>left >>>or >>> > >>>right channel. the reason why i chose 56k or smaller was that i am >>>on a >>> > >>>cheap laptop in indiana and im working w/ a 56k modem and im >>>getting >>> > >>>tired of trying to down load 9MB or larger files....also i wanted >>>to >>> > >>>challenge my self to write something that i could easily >>>upload/down >>> > >>>load. i personally dont care what format you make the >>>file.....just >>>keep >>> > >>>it under 56k. >>> > >>> >>> > >>>-thaniel ion lee///bridle wire >>> > >>> >>> > >>>oh, ya >>> > >>> >>> > >>>359 true and untrue I statements >>> > >>>by thaniel ion lee >>> > >>>online from january 23rd til february 23rd >>> > >>>located at >>> > >>>http://thanielionlee.com/ >>> > >>> >>> > >>>if you would like to comment on the work kindly send the comment >>>to >>> > >>>xxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx ....do not ......i repeat do not send it >>>to >>> > >>>everyone who got this email >>> > >> >>> > >>_________________________________________________________________ >>> > >>FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar - get it now! >>> > >>http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >>> >>-------------------------------------------------------------------- - >>> > >>To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >>> > >>For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >>> > >>website: http://www.microsound.org >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >mandra >>> > >c:410.258.5281 >>> > >h:301 772 7376 >>> > > >>> > >realtime experimentalist / guitarist for Telesma >>> > >creator of "the manDrum" >>> > >...jamming the mainstream in the zips >>> > >http://defDumbAndBass.com >>> > >http://telesma23.com >>> > >http://skywheel.com >>> > > >>> > >Come to my very happening *happening* >>> > >the defDumbAndBass fREAKoUT! >>> > >happening the 3rd Sunday of EVERY month >>> > >@ the Royal - 1542 Light Street, Baltimore, MD >>> > >watch, listen, dance, relax and explore the "known unknowns" >>> > > >>> > >AND check out "e+@13" - a new show the first Thursday of every month >>>at >>>the >>> > >13th Floor in Baltimore highlighting live aspects of electronic >>>music. >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > >>> >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> > >To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >>> > >For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >>> > >website: http://www.microsound.org >>> > > >>> > >>> > _________________________________________________________________ >>> > Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's >>>FREE! >>> > http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ >>> > >>> > >>> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >>> > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >>> > website: http://www.microsound.org >>> > >>> >>> >>>--------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >>>For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >>>website: http://www.microsound.org >>> >> >>_________________________________________________________________ >>Don’t just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! >>http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ >> >> >>--------------------------------------------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >>For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >>website: http://www.microsound.org >> >> >mandra >c:410.258.5281 >h:301 772 7376 > >realtime experimentalist / guitarist for Telesma >creator of "the manDrum" >...jamming the mainstream in the zips >http://defDumbAndBass.com >http://telesma23.com >http://skywheel.com > >Come to my very happening *happening* >the defDumbAndBass fREAKoUT! >happening the 3rd Sunday of EVERY month >@ the Royal - 1542 Light Street, Baltimore, MD >watch, listen, dance, relax and explore the "known unknowns" > >AND check out "e+@13" - a new show the first Thursday of every month at >the 13th Floor in Baltimore highlighting live aspects of electronic music. > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >website: http://www.microsound.org > _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! 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Mon Jan 24 03:12:40 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34077-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.110]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 23 Jan 2005 22:12:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 23 Jan 2005 22:12:39 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 99758 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 24 Jan 2005 03:12:33 +0000 Received: (qmail 99747 invoked from network); Mon, 24 Jan 2005 03:12:33 +0000 Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 22:13:21 -0500 From: mandra <xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> (chris) Subject: Re: [microsound] thoughts on the 56k chalenge and other things In-reply-to: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx I think greg means "good" as determined by whomever sends something in. If you think you're stuff is "good", send it (if you want) But I'm just guessing. chris On Jan 23, 2005, at 10:06 PM, greg g wrote: > you are thinking way too hard > > just chill > > >> From: <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> >> Reply-To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> >> To: "microsound" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> >> Subject: Re: [microsound] thoughts on the 56k chalenge and other >> things >> Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 21:56:24 -0500 >> >> "good" as determined by who? >> are you proposing that your subjective judgement represents a >> consensus? >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "greg g" <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> >> To: <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> >> Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2005 9:20 PM >> Subject: Re: [microsound] thoughts on the 56k chalenge and other >> things >> >> >> > that's why it's a challenge >> > >> > better get started. i'm serious >> > >> > >From: (chris) mandra <xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> >> > >Reply-To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> >> > >To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> >> > >Subject: Re: [microsound] thoughts on the 56k chalenge and other >> things >> > >Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 21:17:28 -0500 >> > > >> > >that'll be a small site... >> > >On Jan 23, 2005, at 9:13 PM, greg g wrote: >> > > >> > >>i propose the "good music" challenge--only good music submissions >> plz, >> > >>that's the only constraint. i'll host the files free >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >>>From: xxxxxxx@xxx.xxx >> > >>>Reply-To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> >> > >>>To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx) >> > >>>Subject: [microsound] thoughts on the 56k chalenge and other >> things >> > >>>Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 01:07:57 +0000 >> > >>> >> > >>>the reason i proposed the 56k challenge was because i wanted to >> see >> what >> > >>>would happen if people are limited by certain restraints >> .............be >> > >>>it physiccal, mental, sonic or file size.....i could have just as >> easily >> > >>>proposed a project that involved everyone composing music/art >> using >> > >>>nothing, but text files or the color red or even better only the >> left >> or >> > >>>right channel. the reason why i chose 56k or smaller was that i >> am on a >> > >>>cheap laptop in indiana and im working w/ a 56k modem and im >> getting >> > >>>tired of trying to down load 9MB or larger files....also i >> wanted to >> > >>>challenge my self to write something that i could easily >> upload/down >> > >>>load. i personally dont care what format you make the >> file.....just >> keep >> > >>>it under 56k. >> > >>> >> > >>>-thaniel ion lee///bridle wire >> > >>> >> > >>>oh, ya >> > >>> >> > >>>359 true and untrue I statements >> > >>>by thaniel ion lee >> > >>>online from january 23rd til february 23rd >> > >>>located at >> > >>>http://thanielionlee.com/ >> > >>> >> > >>>if you would like to comment on the work kindly send the comment >> to >> > >>>xxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx ....do not ......i repeat do not send it >> to >> > >>>everyone who got this email >> > >> >> > >>_________________________________________________________________ >> > >>FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar - get it now! >> > >>http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >>-------------------------------------------------------------------- >> - >> > >>To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> > >>For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> > >>website: http://www.microsound.org >> > >> >> > >> >> > >mandra >> > >c:410.258.5281 >> > >h:301 772 7376 >> > > >> > >realtime experimentalist / guitarist for Telesma >> > >creator of "the manDrum" >> > >...jamming the mainstream in the zips >> > >http://defDumbAndBass.com >> > >http://telesma23.com >> > >http://skywheel.com >> > > >> > >Come to my very happening *happening* >> > >the defDumbAndBass fREAKoUT! >> > >happening the 3rd Sunday of EVERY month >> > >@ the Royal - 1542 Light Street, Baltimore, MD >> > >watch, listen, dance, relax and explore the "known unknowns" >> > > >> > >AND check out "e+@13" - a new show the first Thursday of every >> month at >> the >> > >13th Floor in Baltimore highlighting live aspects of electronic >> music. >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > >To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> > >For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> > >website: http://www.microsound.org >> > > >> > >> > _________________________________________________________________ >> > Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - >> it's FREE! >> > http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ >> > >> > >> > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> > website: http://www.microsound.org >> > >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> website: http://www.microsound.org >> > > _________________________________________________________________ > Don’t just search. Find. 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Mon Jan 24 03:07:20 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34076-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.113]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 23 Jan 2005 22:07:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 23 Jan 2005 22:07:20 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 96746 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 24 Jan 2005 03:07:08 +0000 Received: (qmail 96686 invoked from network); Mon, 24 Jan 2005 03:07:06 +0000 Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 03:06:48 +0000 From: greg g <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] thoughts on the 56k chalenge and other things In-reply-to: <00ba01c501c0$4cfb1880$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx.xxxxxxx.xxx> X-Originating-IP: [138.88.196.220] X-Sender: xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Bcc: Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Originating-Email: [xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Jan 2005 03:07:01.0316 (UTC) FILETIME=[C60FB040:01C501C1] you are thinking way too hard just chill >From: <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> >Reply-To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> >To: "microsound" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> >Subject: Re: [microsound] thoughts on the 56k chalenge and other things >Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 21:56:24 -0500 > >"good" as determined by who? >are you proposing that your subjective judgement represents a consensus? > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "greg g" <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> >To: <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> >Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2005 9:20 PM >Subject: Re: [microsound] thoughts on the 56k chalenge and other things > > > > that's why it's a challenge > > > > better get started. i'm serious > > > > >From: (chris) mandra <xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> > > >Reply-To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> > > >To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> > > >Subject: Re: [microsound] thoughts on the 56k chalenge and other things > > >Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 21:17:28 -0500 > > > > > >that'll be a small site... > > >On Jan 23, 2005, at 9:13 PM, greg g wrote: > > > > > >>i propose the "good music" challenge--only good music submissions plz, > > >>that's the only constraint. i'll host the files free > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >>>From: xxxxxxx@xxx.xxx > > >>>Reply-To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> > > >>>To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx) > > >>>Subject: [microsound] thoughts on the 56k chalenge and other things > > >>>Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 01:07:57 +0000 > > >>> > > >>>the reason i proposed the 56k challenge was because i wanted to see >what > > >>>would happen if people are limited by certain restraints >.............be > > >>>it physiccal, mental, sonic or file size.....i could have just as >easily > > >>>proposed a project that involved everyone composing music/art using > > >>>nothing, but text files or the color red or even better only the left >or > > >>>right channel. the reason why i chose 56k or smaller was that i am on >a > > >>>cheap laptop in indiana and im working w/ a 56k modem and im getting > > >>>tired of trying to down load 9MB or larger files....also i wanted to > > >>>challenge my self to write something that i could easily upload/down > > >>>load. i personally dont care what format you make the file.....just >keep > > >>>it under 56k. > > >>> > > >>>-thaniel ion lee///bridle wire > > >>> > > >>>oh, ya > > >>> > > >>>359 true and untrue I statements > > >>>by thaniel ion lee > > >>>online from january 23rd til february 23rd > > >>>located at > > >>>http://thanielionlee.com/ > > >>> > > >>>if you would like to comment on the work kindly send the comment to > > >>>xxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx ....do not ......i repeat do not send it to > > >>>everyone who got this email > > >> > > >>_________________________________________________________________ > > >>FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar - get it now! > > >>http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ > > >> > > >> > > >>--------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >>To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > >>For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > >>website: http://www.microsound.org > > >> > > >> > > >mandra > > >c:410.258.5281 > > >h:301 772 7376 > > > > > >realtime experimentalist / guitarist for Telesma > > >creator of "the manDrum" > > >...jamming the mainstream in the zips > > >http://defDumbAndBass.com > > >http://telesma23.com > > >http://skywheel.com > > > > > >Come to my very happening *happening* > > >the defDumbAndBass fREAKoUT! > > >happening the 3rd Sunday of EVERY month > > >@ the Royal - 1542 Light Street, Baltimore, MD > > >watch, listen, dance, relax and explore the "known unknowns" > > > > > >AND check out "e+@13" - a new show the first Thursday of every month at >the > > >13th Floor in Baltimore highlighting live aspects of electronic music. > > > > > > > > > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > >For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > >website: http://www.microsound.org > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's >FREE! > > http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > website: http://www.microsound.org > > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >website: http://www.microsound.org > _________________________________________________________________ Don’t just search. Find. 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Mon Jan 24 03:00:37 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34075-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.111]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 23 Jan 2005 22:00:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 23 Jan 2005 22:00:37 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 93818 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 24 Jan 2005 03:00:33 +0000 Received: (qmail 93808 invoked from network); Mon, 24 Jan 2005 03:00:33 +0000 Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 21:56:24 -0500 From: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx Subject: Re: [microsound] thoughts on the 56k chalenge and other things To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <00ba01c501c0$4cfb1880$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx.xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx "good" as determined by who? are you proposing that your subjective judgement represents a consensus? ----- Original Message ----- From: "greg g" <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> To: <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2005 9:20 PM Subject: Re: [microsound] thoughts on the 56k chalenge and other things > that's why it's a challenge > > better get started. i'm serious > > >From: (chris) mandra <xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> > >Reply-To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> > >To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> > >Subject: Re: [microsound] thoughts on the 56k chalenge and other things > >Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 21:17:28 -0500 > > > >that'll be a small site... > >On Jan 23, 2005, at 9:13 PM, greg g wrote: > > > >>i propose the "good music" challenge--only good music submissions plz, > >>that's the only constraint. i'll host the files free > >> > >> > >> > >>>From: xxxxxxx@xxx.xxx > >>>Reply-To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> > >>>To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx) > >>>Subject: [microsound] thoughts on the 56k chalenge and other things > >>>Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 01:07:57 +0000 > >>> > >>>the reason i proposed the 56k challenge was because i wanted to see what > >>>would happen if people are limited by certain restraints ..............be > >>>it physiccal, mental, sonic or file size.....i could have just as easily > >>>proposed a project that involved everyone composing music/art using > >>>nothing, but text files or the color red or even better only the left or > >>>right channel. the reason why i chose 56k or smaller was that i am on a > >>>cheap laptop in indiana and im working w/ a 56k modem and im getting > >>>tired of trying to down load 9MB or larger files....also i wanted to > >>>challenge my self to write something that i could easily upload/down > >>>load. i personally dont care what format you make the file.....just keep > >>>it under 56k. > >>> > >>>-thaniel ion lee///bridle wire > >>> > >>>oh, ya > >>> > >>>359 true and untrue I statements > >>>by thaniel ion lee > >>>online from january 23rd til february 23rd > >>>located at > >>>http://thanielionlee.com/ > >>> > >>>if you would like to comment on the work kindly send the comment to > >>>xxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx ....do not ......i repeat do not send it to > >>>everyone who got this email > >> > >>_________________________________________________________________ > >>FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar - get it now! > >>http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ > >> > >> > >>--------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > >>For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > >>website: http://www.microsound.org > >> > >> > >mandra > >c:410.258.5281 > >h:301 772 7376 > > > >realtime experimentalist / guitarist for Telesma > >creator of "the manDrum" > >...jamming the mainstream in the zips > >http://defDumbAndBass.com > >http://telesma23.com > >http://skywheel.com > > > >Come to my very happening *happening* > >the defDumbAndBass fREAKoUT! > >happening the 3rd Sunday of EVERY month > >@ the Royal - 1542 Light Street, Baltimore, MD > >watch, listen, dance, relax and explore the "known unknowns" > > > >AND check out "e+@13" - a new show the first Thursday of every month at the > >13th Floor in Baltimore highlighting live aspects of electronic music. > > > > > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > >For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > >website: http://www.microsound.org > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! > http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Jan 24 02:23:37 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34074-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.111]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 23 Jan 2005 21:23:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 23 Jan 2005 21:23:36 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 82687 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 24 Jan 2005 02:23:34 +0000 Received: (qmail 82677 invoked from network); Mon, 24 Jan 2005 02:23:34 +0000 Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 21:23:30 -0500 From: Peter Price <xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] L.E.M.U.R. In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.552) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx This past fall I saw Mari Kimura demonstrate and talk about her work at Harvestworks in NYC. I was surprised and heartened to learn that she teaches a class in interactive performance technique where these juliard kids not only have to play with computers but have to learn to do there own programing in max/msp. Not quite the bastion of 19th century musical values it once was I guess. On Sunday, January 23, 2005, at 08:45 PM, Kim Cascone wrote: > http://www.juilliard.edu/update/journal/j_articles385.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Jan 24 02:21:11 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34073-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.82]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 23 Jan 2005 21:21:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 23 Jan 2005 21:21:10 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 81292 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 24 Jan 2005 02:21:05 +0000 Received: (qmail 81281 invoked from network); Mon, 24 Jan 2005 02:21:04 +0000 Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 02:20:35 +0000 From: greg g <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] thoughts on the 56k chalenge and other things In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-Originating-IP: [138.88.196.220] X-Sender: xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Bcc: Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Originating-Email: [xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Jan 2005 02:21:00.0979 (UTC) FILETIME=[58C5B030:01C501BB] that's why it's a challenge better get started. i'm serious >From: (chris) mandra <xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> >Reply-To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> >To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> >Subject: Re: [microsound] thoughts on the 56k chalenge and other things >Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 21:17:28 -0500 > >that'll be a small site... >On Jan 23, 2005, at 9:13 PM, greg g wrote: > >>i propose the "good music" challenge--only good music submissions plz, >>that's the only constraint. i'll host the files free >> >> >> >>>From: xxxxxxx@xxx.xxx >>>Reply-To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> >>>To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx) >>>Subject: [microsound] thoughts on the 56k chalenge and other things >>>Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 01:07:57 +0000 >>> >>>the reason i proposed the 56k challenge was because i wanted to see what >>>would happen if people are limited by certain restraints .............be >>>it physiccal, mental, sonic or file size.....i could have just as easily >>>proposed a project that involved everyone composing music/art using >>>nothing, but text files or the color red or even better only the left or >>>right channel. the reason why i chose 56k or smaller was that i am on a >>>cheap laptop in indiana and im working w/ a 56k modem and im getting >>>tired of trying to down load 9MB or larger files....also i wanted to >>>challenge my self to write something that i could easily upload/down >>>load. i personally dont care what format you make the file.....just keep >>>it under 56k. >>> >>>-thaniel ion lee///bridle wire >>> >>>oh, ya >>> >>>359 true and untrue I statements >>>by thaniel ion lee >>>online from january 23rd til february 23rd >>>located at >>>http://thanielionlee.com/ >>> >>>if you would like to comment on the work kindly send the comment to >>>xxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx ....do not ......i repeat do not send it to >>>everyone who got this email >> >>_________________________________________________________________ >>FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar – get it now! 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Mon Jan 24 02:16:45 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34072-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.112]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 23 Jan 2005 21:16:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 23 Jan 2005 21:16:45 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 79283 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 24 Jan 2005 02:16:41 +0000 Received: (qmail 79272 invoked from network); Mon, 24 Jan 2005 02:16:41 +0000 Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 21:17:28 -0500 From: mandra <xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> (chris) Subject: Re: [microsound] thoughts on the 56k chalenge and other things In-reply-to: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx that'll be a small site... On Jan 23, 2005, at 9:13 PM, greg g wrote: > i propose the "good music" challenge--only good music submissions plz, > that's the only constraint. i'll host the files free > > > >> From: xxxxxxx@xxx.xxx >> Reply-To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> >> To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx) >> Subject: [microsound] thoughts on the 56k chalenge and other things >> Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 01:07:57 +0000 >> >> the reason i proposed the 56k challenge was because i wanted to see >> what would happen if people are limited by certain restraints >> .............be it physiccal, mental, sonic or file size.....i could >> have just as easily proposed a project that involved everyone >> composing music/art using nothing, but text files or the color red or >> even better only the left or right channel. the reason why i chose >> 56k or smaller was that i am on a cheap laptop in indiana and im >> working w/ a 56k modem and im getting tired of trying to down load >> 9MB or larger files....also i wanted to challenge my self to write >> something that i could easily upload/down load. i personally dont >> care what format you make the file.....just keep it under 56k. >> >> -thaniel ion lee///bridle wire >> >> oh, ya >> >> 359 true and untrue I statements >> by thaniel ion lee >> online from january 23rd til february 23rd >> located at >> http://thanielionlee.com/ >> >> if you would like to comment on the work kindly send the comment to >> xxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx ....do not ......i repeat do not send it to >> everyone who got this email > > _________________________________________________________________ > FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar – get it now! > http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > mandra c:410.258.5281 h:301 772 7376 realtime experimentalist / guitarist for Telesma creator of "the manDrum" ....jamming the mainstream in the zips http://defDumbAndBass.com http://telesma23.com http://skywheel.com Come to my very happening *happening* the defDumbAndBass fREAKoUT! happening the 3rd Sunday of EVERY month @ the Royal - 1542 Light Street, Baltimore, MD watch, listen, dance, relax and explore the "known unknowns" AND check out "e+@13" - a new show the first Thursday of every month at the 13th Floor in Baltimore highlighting live aspects of electronic music. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Jan 24 02:14:10 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34071-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 23 Jan 2005 21:14:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 23 Jan 2005 21:14:10 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 77411 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 24 Jan 2005 02:14:05 +0000 Received: (qmail 77401 invoked from network); Mon, 24 Jan 2005 02:14:04 +0000 Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 02:13:26 +0000 From: greg g <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: RE: [microsound] thoughts on the 56k chalenge and other things In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> X-Originating-IP: [138.88.196.220] X-Sender: xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Bcc: Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Originating-Email: [xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Jan 2005 02:14:00.0855 (UTC) FILETIME=[5E5BDA70:01C501BA] i propose the "good music" challenge--only good music submissions plz, that's the only constraint. i'll host the files free >From: xxxxxxx@xxx.xxx >Reply-To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> >To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx) >Subject: [microsound] thoughts on the 56k chalenge and other things >Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 01:07:57 +0000 > >the reason i proposed the 56k challenge was because i wanted to see what >would happen if people are limited by certain restraints .............be it >physiccal, mental, sonic or file size.....i could have just as easily >proposed a project that involved everyone composing music/art using >nothing, but text files or the color red or even better only the left or >right channel. the reason why i chose 56k or smaller was that i am on a >cheap laptop in indiana and im working w/ a 56k modem and im getting tired >of trying to down load 9MB or larger files....also i wanted to challenge my >self to write something that i could easily upload/down load. i personally >dont care what format you make the file.....just keep it under 56k. > >-thaniel ion lee///bridle wire > >oh, ya > >359 true and untrue I statements >by thaniel ion lee >online from january 23rd til february 23rd >located at >http://thanielionlee.com/ > >if you would like to comment on the work kindly send the comment to >xxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx ....do not ......i repeat do not send it to >everyone who got this email _________________________________________________________________ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar – get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? 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To: microsound_list <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Loop-Detect: 1 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx http://www.juilliard.edu/update/journal/j_articles385.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Jan 24 01:08:04 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34069-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.113]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 23 Jan 2005 20:08:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 23 Jan 2005 20:08:04 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 55784 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 24 Jan 2005 01:08:01 +0000 Received: (qmail 55768 invoked from network); Mon, 24 Jan 2005 01:08:01 +0000 Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 01:07:57 +0000 From: xxxxxxx@xxx.xxx Subject: [microsound] thoughts on the 56k chalenge and other things To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx) Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Oct 18 2004) Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_Y7XO1drzZpoGk6l5ZCCpvw)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Authenticated-Sender: dGlvbmxlZUBhdHQubmV0 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_Y7XO1drzZpoGk6l5ZCCpvw) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit the reason i proposed the 56k challenge was because i wanted to see what would happen if people are limited by certain restraints .............be it physiccal, mental, sonic or file size.....i could have just as easily proposed a project that involved everyone composing music/art using nothing, but text files or the color red or even better only the left or right channel. the reason why i chose 56k or smaller was that i am on a cheap laptop in indiana and im working w/ a 56k modem and im getting tired of trying to down load 9MB or larger files....also i wanted to challenge my self to write something that i could easily upload/down load. i personally dont care what format you make the file.....just keep it under 56k. -thaniel ion lee///bridle wire oh, ya 359 true and untrue I statements by thaniel ion lee online from january 23rd til february 23rd located at http://thanielionlee.com/ if you would like to comment on the work kindly send the comment to xxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx ....do not ......i repeat do not send it to everyone who got this email --Boundary_(ID_Y7XO1drzZpoGk6l5ZCCpvw)-- From ???@??? Mon Jan 24 00:05:35 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34068-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 23 Jan 2005 19:05:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 23 Jan 2005 19:05:35 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 37316 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 24 Jan 2005 00:05:30 +0000 Received: (qmail 37304 invoked from network); Mon, 24 Jan 2005 00:05:29 +0000 Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 19:03:16 -0500 From: ndkent <xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] [ot] the 56k challenge To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > At variable bit rate MP3, lower frequencies require less information to > encode than higher frequencies. With some calculation, you could make a > pretty long bass drone that would still come in under 56K easy. I > remember something like a 10 minute Slub track using this technique > that > still fit on a floppy. > > Likewise, a MIDI file, PD patch or any other essentially "textual" > instructions for playing a "track" need not take up more than a few Kb > of space. Certainly. I found it kind of interesting that most people on this list who responded immediately focused on mp3s and reducing their size. As if the only way to do it is to externally source a larger linear audio file you captured and compress it as much as possible Lo-Fi fetish aside, maybe I'm old or something but the first thing that popped into my mind was that this was intended as a retro code programming challenge to begin with, not the challenge of compressing linear data. I'm old enough to remember when programmers would get props for fast and efficient code rather than tell others by default to go buy themselves a faster machine with more RAM or else they are never going to run that bloatware app. Round about 1989 I was working at a college computer lab with a room full of already aged IMB PC XTs (pre-286 machines) - so there were quite a few afternoons when no classes were held. I came up with some code, probably compiled Turbo Pascal, all of about 6K that would make the PC output insect-like clicking sounds to the speakers along with some no frills graphics made with repeated line segments that drew sort of palm tree leaves on the screens. So that was my app. Kind of lame on one computer but quite a surround environment running on all 16-20 machines in the room. ndkent http://www.technopop.info/ndkent/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Jan 23 22:54:24 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34067-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 23 Jan 2005 17:54:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 23 Jan 2005 17:54:24 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 17495 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 23 Jan 2005 22:54:21 +0000 Received: (qmail 17485 invoked from network); Sun, 23 Jan 2005 22:54:21 +0000 Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 17:54:19 -0500 From: billy <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Death of electronic music In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <l03130303be19c426ade6@[213.84.105.55]> <l03130302be19adde7142@[213.84.105.55]> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> <l03130300be19a282c5d8@[213.84.105.55]> <BE11AAD5.2CB1%xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> <xxxxx.xx.xx.xxx.xxx.xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> <l03130300be19a282c5d8@[213.84.105.55]> <l03130301be19a5516ed9@[213.84.105.55]> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> <l03130302be19adde7142@[213.84.105.55]> <l03130303be19c426ade6@[213.84.105.55]> <l03130304be19ca562227@[213.84.105.55]> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx I also consider john's response to be "doing it well" well! On Jan 23, 2005, at 5:31 PM, John Nowak wrote: > > On Jan 23, 2005, at 4:41 PM, Arie van Schutterhoef wrote: > >>> by doing it well. > >> -Which applied method would this mean? > > Do you consider yourself an artist? > > - John > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Jan 23 22:45:12 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34066-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 23 Jan 2005 17:45:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 23 Jan 2005 17:45:12 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 13778 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 23 Jan 2005 22:45:09 +0000 Received: (qmail 13767 invoked from network); Sun, 23 Jan 2005 22:45:09 +0000 Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 16:49:05 -0600 From: john kannenberg <xxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] NEW : Ernesto Rodrigues / ARCHIVE : Takuji Tokiwa X-Originating-IP: 209.86.107.64 X-Sender: xxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx@mail.stasisfield.com To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <p06002001be19da0fbcb2@[209.86.104.143]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-ELNK-Trace: 8044adbcdf4a5156069ad2b59907cf439ef193a6bfc3dd48649d19f7ae5ba044c8a0837e0a6cce0b666fa475841a1c7a350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx ----------------------------------------------- Stasisfield begins the 2005 release season with a new recording and an old favorite. ----------------------------------------------- + NEW RELEASE ----------------------------------------------- SF-4001: Prisma : Ernesto Rodrigues ----------------------------------------------- Portugese violinist, composer, and Creative Sources Recordings label head Ernesto Rodrigues begins our fourth year with a set of acoustic improvised music recorded in Lisbon, Portugal. Recorded by a trio consisting of Rodrigues on violin and viola, Michael Thieke on clarinet and alto clarinet, and Guilherme Rodrigues on cello and pocket trumpet, the three tracks in Prisma move from sparsely claustrophobic twittering percussive noises to hi-frequency drones and expansive breathing exercises to deceptively simple plucked strings and bowed notes. Along the way, the structure of the tracks' musical events becomes denser, yet the sounds break free of their original condensed field to paint a broad acoustic landscape. A challenging, compelling set of music. Available for download and streaming at: [ http://www.stasisfield.com/releases/year04/sf-4001.html ] ----------------------------------------------- ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ----------------------------------------------- + ARCHIVE RELEASE ----------------------------------------------- [A new feature at Stasisfield: every month we will present a release from a previous year that has been taken offline and archived onto our series of MP3 archive CDRs, making it available for one month only. Our first back-online archive release comes from the Stasisfield : Year 01 Archive CDR. ] ----------------------------------------------- SF-1006 : Four Tears : Takuji Tokiwa ----------------------------------------------- Composed by Japanese sound artist Takuji Tokiwa, Four Tears is "an electroacoustic symphonic poem." Its four distinct movements each display a slightly different acoustic approach, moving from manipulated field recordings to layers of synthesized sound. The four movements build slowly and contemplatively, meandering between ambient drones and visceral noise. Originally released 13.05.2002 Available for download at: [ http://www.stasisfield.com/releases/archive/ ] ----------------------------------------------- As always, thanks for listening. ----------------------------------------------- -- >> john kannenberg [ http://www.johnkannenberg.com ] [ http://www.stasisfield.com ] --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Jan 23 22:41:36 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34065-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.113]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 23 Jan 2005 17:41:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 23 Jan 2005 17:41:36 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 10304 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 23 Jan 2005 22:41:33 +0000 Received: (qmail 10293 invoked from network); Sun, 23 Jan 2005 22:41:33 +0000 Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 17:41:33 -0500 From: John Nowak <xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Death of electronic music In-reply-to: <l03130306be19d6cb0fac@[213.84.105.55]> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-PopBeforeSMTPSenders: xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx,xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - jet16.hasweb.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - hyperreal.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - johnnowak.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <l03130304be19ca562227@[213.84.105.55]> <l03130303be19c426ade6@[213.84.105.55]> <l03130302be19adde7142@[213.84.105.55]> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> <l03130300be19a282c5d8@[213.84.105.55]> <BE11AAD5.2CB1%xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> <xxxxx.xx.xx.xxx.xxx.xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> <l03130300be19a282c5d8@[213.84.105.55]> <l03130301be19a5516ed9@[213.84.105.55]> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> <l03130302be19adde7142@[213.84.105.55]> <l03130303be19c426ade6@[213.84.105.55]> <l03130304be19ca562227@[213.84.105.55]> <l03130306be19d6cb0fac@[213.84.105.55]> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx On Jan 23, 2005, at 5:38 PM, Arie van Schutterhoef wrote: >> Do you consider yourself an artist? > -No a toilet-cleaner, especially when it comes to > remarks containing thoughts you are propagating... > Generally flushing the toilet will do the job. > Detergents are not really needed, just clean water. Can you really blame me? > "Which applied method would this mean?" Come on now. - John --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Jan 23 22:38:58 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34064-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.110]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 23 Jan 2005 17:38:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 23 Jan 2005 17:38:58 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 8338 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 23 Jan 2005 22:38:55 +0000 Received: (qmail 8328 invoked from network); Sun, 23 Jan 2005 22:38:54 +0000 Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 23:38:50 +0100 From: Arie van Schutterhoef <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Death of electronic music In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <l03130306be19d6cb0fac@[213.84.105.55]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <l03130304be19ca562227@[213.84.105.55]> <l03130303be19c426ade6@[213.84.105.55]> <l03130302be19adde7142@[213.84.105.55]> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> <l03130300be19a282c5d8@[213.84.105.55]> <BE11AAD5.2CB1%xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> <xxxxx.xx.xx.xxx.xxx.xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> <l03130300be19a282c5d8@[213.84.105.55]> <l03130301be19a5516ed9@[213.84.105.55]> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> <l03130302be19adde7142@[213.84.105.55]> <l03130303be19c426ade6@[213.84.105.55]> <l03130304be19ca562227@[213.84.105.55]> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >Do you consider yourself an artist? -No a toilet-cleaner, especially when it comes to remarks containing thoughts you are propagating... Generally flushing the toilet will do the job. Detergents are not really needed, just clean water. AvS . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ...................................................................... ` |Schreck Ensemble . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . + ` |# -laboratory for live electro-acoustic music- # | | http://www.schreck.nl/ | | http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/ | ` *===========================================================++ ` |Compositions http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/compo.html | ` |Samples http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/samp.html | ` |Patches http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/pat.html | ` |Videos http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/video.html | ` |Scores http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/scores.html | *===========================================================++ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ...................................................................... --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Jan 23 22:31:34 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34063-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.111]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 23 Jan 2005 17:31:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 23 Jan 2005 17:31:34 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 5266 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 23 Jan 2005 22:31:31 +0000 Received: (qmail 5255 invoked from network); Sun, 23 Jan 2005 22:31:31 +0000 Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 17:31:31 -0500 From: John Nowak <xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Death of electronic music In-reply-to: <l03130304be19ca562227@[213.84.105.55]> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-PopBeforeSMTPSenders: xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx,xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - jet16.hasweb.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - hyperreal.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - johnnowak.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <l03130303be19c426ade6@[213.84.105.55]> <l03130302be19adde7142@[213.84.105.55]> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> <l03130300be19a282c5d8@[213.84.105.55]> <BE11AAD5.2CB1%xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> <xxxxx.xx.xx.xxx.xxx.xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> <l03130300be19a282c5d8@[213.84.105.55]> <l03130301be19a5516ed9@[213.84.105.55]> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> <l03130302be19adde7142@[213.84.105.55]> <l03130303be19c426ade6@[213.84.105.55]> <l03130304be19ca562227@[213.84.105.55]> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx On Jan 23, 2005, at 4:41 PM, Arie van Schutterhoef wrote: >> by doing it well. > -Which applied method would this mean? Do you consider yourself an artist? - John --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Jan 23 21:58:35 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34062-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 23 Jan 2005 16:58:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 23 Jan 2005 16:58:35 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 95967 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 23 Jan 2005 21:58:30 +0000 Received: (qmail 95944 invoked from network); Sun, 23 Jan 2005 21:58:30 +0000 Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 16:58:27 -0500 From: billy <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Death of electronic music In-reply-to: <l03130304be19ca562227@[213.84.105.55]> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <l03130303be19c426ade6@[213.84.105.55]> <l03130302be19adde7142@[213.84.105.55]> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> <l03130300be19a282c5d8@[213.84.105.55]> <BE11AAD5.2CB1%xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> <xxxxx.xx.xx.xxx.xxx.xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> <l03130300be19a282c5d8@[213.84.105.55]> <l03130301be19a5516ed9@[213.84.105.55]> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> <l03130302be19adde7142@[213.84.105.55]> <l03130303be19c426ade6@[213.84.105.55]> <l03130304be19ca562227@[213.84.105.55]> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx this would mean - making conscious choices as to one's acoustic and electonic instruments - in a solo situation, avoiding this "dsp'd to death" thing that has been mentioned, in this context, I mean using the acoustic instrument as a signifier, while letting one's electronics simply makes cool noises out of this signifier. - in a group situation, knowing one's limits as a musician, (for instance, that an electronic player can easily just turn it up in order make his/herself heard, as opposed to performing a compelling moment or series of moments), basically, know yr instrument - be a musician, not a programmer (duh there is programming involved, but i am always a musician _first_) - content over appearance personally AvS, i feel that "doing it well" is self explanatory. what "doing it well" is varies from ears to ears - I may not like one musician "doing it well" but I should be able to hear how "well it is done" if an artist does not know "doing it well" in context of their own or someone else's work, they are not working, or watching, or listening, hard enough. b. On Jan 23, 2005, at 4:41 PM, Arie van Schutterhoef wrote: >> by doing it well. > -Which applied method would this mean? > > AvS > > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > ..................................................................... > > ` |Schreck Ensemble . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . + > > ` |# -laboratory for live electro-acoustic music- # | > | http://www.schreck.nl/ | > | http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/ | > ` *===========================================================++ > ` |Compositions http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/compo.html | > ` |Samples http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/samp.html | > ` |Patches http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/pat.html | > ` |Videos http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/video.html | > > ` |Scores http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/scores.html | > > *===========================================================++ > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > ..................................................................... > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Jan 23 21:41:43 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34061-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 23 Jan 2005 16:41:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 23 Jan 2005 16:41:43 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 90977 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 23 Jan 2005 21:41:40 +0000 Received: (qmail 90963 invoked from network); Sun, 23 Jan 2005 21:41:39 +0000 Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 22:41:36 +0100 From: Arie van Schutterhoef <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Death of electronic music In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <l03130304be19ca562227@[213.84.105.55]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <l03130303be19c426ade6@[213.84.105.55]> <l03130302be19adde7142@[213.84.105.55]> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> <l03130300be19a282c5d8@[213.84.105.55]> <BE11AAD5.2CB1%xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> <xxxxx.xx.xx.xxx.xxx.xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> <l03130300be19a282c5d8@[213.84.105.55]> <l03130301be19a5516ed9@[213.84.105.55]> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> <l03130302be19adde7142@[213.84.105.55]> <l03130303be19c426ade6@[213.84.105.55]> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >by doing it well. -Which applied method would this mean? AvS . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ...................................................................... ` |Schreck Ensemble . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . + ` |# -laboratory for live electro-acoustic music- # | | http://www.schreck.nl/ | | http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/ | ` *===========================================================++ ` |Compositions http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/compo.html | ` |Samples http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/samp.html | ` |Patches http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/pat.html | ` |Videos http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/video.html | ` |Scores http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/scores.html | *===========================================================++ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ...................................................................... --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Jan 23 21:35:26 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34060-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.110]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 23 Jan 2005 16:35:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 23 Jan 2005 16:35:26 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 89067 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 23 Jan 2005 21:35:22 +0000 Received: (qmail 89056 invoked from network); Sun, 23 Jan 2005 21:35:22 +0000 Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 16:35:20 -0500 From: billy <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Death of electronic music In-reply-to: <l03130303be19c426ade6@[213.84.105.55]> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <l03130302be19adde7142@[213.84.105.55]> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> <l03130300be19a282c5d8@[213.84.105.55]> <BE11AAD5.2CB1%xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> <xxxxx.xx.xx.xxx.xxx.xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> <l03130300be19a282c5d8@[213.84.105.55]> <l03130301be19a5516ed9@[213.84.105.55]> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> <l03130302be19adde7142@[213.84.105.55]> <l03130303be19c426ade6@[213.84.105.55]> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx by doing it well. On Jan 23, 2005, at 4:16 PM, Arie van Schutterhoef wrote: >> absolutely true. my order to FE last week included both german >> electronic artist chronomad and folk enigma jandek. > -Now the next phase is: > how to inter-connect acoustic and electronic? > > AvS > > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > ..................................................................... > > ` |Schreck Ensemble . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . + > > ` |# -laboratory for live electro-acoustic music- # | > | http://www.schreck.nl/ | > | http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/ | > ` *===========================================================++ > ` |Compositions http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/compo.html | > ` |Samples http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/samp.html | > ` |Patches http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/pat.html | > ` |Videos http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/video.html | > > ` |Scores http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/scores.html | > > *===========================================================++ > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > ..................................................................... > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Jan 23 21:16:10 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34059-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 23 Jan 2005 16:16:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 23 Jan 2005 16:16:10 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 83159 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 23 Jan 2005 21:16:05 +0000 Received: (qmail 83149 invoked from network); Sun, 23 Jan 2005 21:16:05 +0000 Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 22:16:01 +0100 From: Arie van Schutterhoef <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Death of electronic music In-reply-to: <p05210600be19c0a2829d@[64.63.223.117]> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <l03130303be19c426ade6@[213.84.105.55]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <l03130302be19adde7142@[213.84.105.55]> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> <l03130300be19a282c5d8@[213.84.105.55]> <BE11AAD5.2CB1%xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> <xxxxx.xx.xx.xxx.xxx.xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> <l03130300be19a282c5d8@[213.84.105.55]> <l03130301be19a5516ed9@[213.84.105.55]> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> <l03130302be19adde7142@[213.84.105.55]> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >absolutely true. my order to FE last week included both german >electronic artist chronomad and folk enigma jandek. -Now the next phase is: how to inter-connect acoustic and electronic? AvS . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ...................................................................... ` |Schreck Ensemble . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . + ` |# -laboratory for live electro-acoustic music- # | | http://www.schreck.nl/ | | http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/ | ` *===========================================================++ ` |Compositions http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/compo.html | ` |Samples http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/samp.html | ` |Patches http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/pat.html | ` |Videos http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/video.html | ` |Scores http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/scores.html | *===========================================================++ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ...................................................................... --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Jan 23 21:13:58 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34058-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 23 Jan 2005 16:13:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 23 Jan 2005 16:13:58 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 81897 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 23 Jan 2005 21:13:55 +0000 Received: (qmail 81886 invoked from network); Sun, 23 Jan 2005 21:13:55 +0000 Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 16:13:46 -0500 From: Anthony Saunders <xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Death of electronic music In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <BE11AAD5.2CB1%xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> <xxxxx.xx.xx.xxx.xxx.xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xx.xxx.xx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx On Jan 23, 2005, at 2:17 PM, John McCaig wrote: > > but seriously, i think what has ending is technical difficulty of > making electronic music. > now, anyone with a computer can make some in an evening, its up to > artists to now to make Art. we just cannot be awed by DSP magic > anymores. content will be king. while I agree that the tools to make very impressive electronic music are now readily available at reasonable prices, understanding it and leveraging it to make "dsp magic" is still fairly inaccessible. It might be easy to make "crazy" breakbeat drill'n'bass style these days. Actually, I know it is, cuz I make a lot of that stuff. But getting it to sound "right" is hard and knowing how best to leverage the tools you have at hand takes enormous effort. It's easier and easier every day for people to "punk rock" on their computers and bitch about software costing a few hundred dollars when it does the job of a $4,000 synth. The "progressive rock" side of electronic music will continue just fine. Autechre will still impress the hell out of people. In fact, I'd say that the easier it is to access the basic tools of computer music, the more people will actually understand why certain technical feats are impressive, possibly inflating the cult of "DSP Magic". (before people read what too far into what I'm saying accusing me of being an elitist snob, I'll point out that I love gabber and trackers... and Autechre for that matter.) Anthony --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Jan 23 20:44:03 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34057-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 23 Jan 2005 15:44:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 23 Jan 2005 15:44:03 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 73300 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 23 Jan 2005 20:43:59 +0000 Received: (qmail 73290 invoked from network); Sun, 23 Jan 2005 20:43:59 +0000 Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 16:00:20 -0500 From: chthonic streams <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Death of electronic music In-reply-to: <l03130302be19adde7142@[213.84.105.55]> X-Sender: chthonic%xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxx.xxxxxxxxxx.xxx To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <p05210600be19c0a2829d@[64.63.223.117]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> <l03130300be19a282c5d8@[213.84.105.55]> <BE11AAD5.2CB1%xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> <xxxxx.xx.xx.xxx.xxx.xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> <l03130300be19a282c5d8@[213.84.105.55]> <l03130301be19a5516ed9@[213.84.105.55]> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> <l03130302be19adde7142@[213.84.105.55]> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > >so to >dismiss music purely because the sound >>originates from an electronic source >-The opposite is also the case. > It nice to remind the electronic laptop performance warriors > that all nice sounds don't have to be electronic... absolutely true. my order to FE last week included both german electronic artist chronomad and folk enigma jandek. d. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Jan 23 20:21:26 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34056-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 23 Jan 2005 15:21:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 23 Jan 2005 15:21:26 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 66373 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 23 Jan 2005 20:21:15 +0000 Received: (qmail 66358 invoked from network); Sun, 23 Jan 2005 20:21:15 +0000 Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 15:20:59 -0500 From: Cory <xxx.xxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Death of electronic music In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_F4abSvx/yjbduZ7bhpmPwQ)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=IMlqBKf/Ga5i2+RpywJK+gASqpqiSfdpK61k6rbgICnGIsbyc+1mpumziznCXzf355Int67i+uOiSya2rHWwBao0LEi0RcYno6kgmq4sfclcy47rq8p47iBqWvou0eBz0qKnJg+VIfI7qNeeKg6uckZKCUNgzy0WYIW89LrdiM8= X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <l03130300be19a282c5d8@[213.84.105.55]> <BE11AAD5.2CB1%xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> <xxxxx.xx.xx.xxx.xxx.xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> <l03130300be19a282c5d8@[213.84.105.55]> <l03130301be19a5516ed9@[213.84.105.55]> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> <p05210603be19adea1bf1@[64.63.223.117]> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_F4abSvx/yjbduZ7bhpmPwQ) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit yes! I seem to remember this exact same argument pertaining to every single style/genre/sub-culture I've ever been involved with. after 15 some years of my involvement in music it is getting a little old! ------------------------------------- audio @ http://www.myspace.com/myo On Jan 23, 2005, at 3:11 PM, John Nowak wrote: > > On Jan 23, 2005, at 2:49 PM, chthonic streams wrote: > >> however, here i believe such a topic is splitting hairs, preaching to >> the converted, or just annoying people. > > Beautiful. :-) > > - John > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > --Boundary_(ID_F4abSvx/yjbduZ7bhpmPwQ)-- From ???@??? 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Sun Jan 23 20:12:18 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34055-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 23 Jan 2005 15:12:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 23 Jan 2005 15:12:18 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 62664 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 23 Jan 2005 20:11:57 +0000 Received: (qmail 62654 invoked from network); Sun, 23 Jan 2005 20:11:56 +0000 Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 15:11:57 -0500 From: John Nowak <xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Death of electronic music In-reply-to: <p05210603be19adea1bf1@[64.63.223.117]> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-PopBeforeSMTPSenders: xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx,xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - jet16.hasweb.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - hyperreal.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - johnnowak.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <l03130300be19a282c5d8@[213.84.105.55]> <BE11AAD5.2CB1%xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> <xxxxx.xx.xx.xxx.xxx.xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> <l03130300be19a282c5d8@[213.84.105.55]> <l03130301be19a5516ed9@[213.84.105.55]> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> <p05210603be19adea1bf1@[64.63.223.117]> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx On Jan 23, 2005, at 2:49 PM, chthonic streams wrote: > however, here i believe such a topic is splitting hairs, preaching to > the converted, or just annoying people. Beautiful. :-) - John --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Jan 23 19:33:32 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34052-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 23 Jan 2005 14:33:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 23 Jan 2005 14:33:31 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 48950 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 23 Jan 2005 19:33:26 +0000 Received: (qmail 48940 invoked from network); Sun, 23 Jan 2005 19:33:26 +0000 Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 14:49:59 -0500 From: chthonic streams <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Death of electronic music In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-Sender: chthonic%xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxx.xxxxxxxxxx.xxx To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <p05210603be19adea1bf1@[64.63.223.117]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <l03130300be19a282c5d8@[213.84.105.55]> <BE11AAD5.2CB1%xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> <xxxxx.xx.xx.xxx.xxx.xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> <l03130300be19a282c5d8@[213.84.105.55]> <l03130301be19a5516ed9@[213.84.105.55]> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >On Jan 23, 2005, at 2:07 PM, Arie van Schutterhoef wrote: > >>>Or rather, a completely unimportant notion that I've read 100 times >>>since I began signing up for mailing lists. > >>-Maybe not all people spend their time in that way and they >> might find this an important topic to be reminded of. >> Maybe as remedy to your overload, try unsubscribing. > >How is this knowledge important, and who are these people that need >to be reminded of it? i think some people could benefit from thinking about it that way for a few seconds, but these are people who would never be on this list. i'm talking about mind-numbingly traditionalist people who fancy themselves musical purists. they worship at the altar of blues-based rock guitar or still bemoan when dylan went electric, without considering all the electronic gadgets that make their heroes sound the way they do, whether onstage or on record. unless people sit in a small room with the musicians singing and playing an acoustic with no sound support whatsoever, they're experiencing some measure of electronics affecting the music (and even the smallest amount makes a significant difference). so to dismiss music purely because the sound originates from an electronic source is not seeing the forest for the trees. however, here i believe such a topic is splitting hairs, preaching to the converted, or just annoying people. d. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Jan 23 19:47:20 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34053-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 23 Jan 2005 14:47:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 23 Jan 2005 14:47:20 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 53298 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 23 Jan 2005 19:47:13 +0000 Received: (qmail 53288 invoked from network); Sun, 23 Jan 2005 19:47:13 +0000 Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 20:47:10 +0100 From: Arie van Schutterhoef <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Death of electronic music In-reply-to: <p05210603be19adea1bf1@[64.63.223.117]> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <l03130302be19adde7142@[213.84.105.55]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> <l03130300be19a282c5d8@[213.84.105.55]> <BE11AAD5.2CB1%xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> <xxxxx.xx.xx.xxx.xxx.xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> <l03130300be19a282c5d8@[213.84.105.55]> <l03130301be19a5516ed9@[213.84.105.55]> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >so to >dismiss music purely because the sound >originates from an electronic source -The opposite is also the case. It nice to remind the electronic laptop performance warriors that all nice sounds don't have to be electronic... 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Sun Jan 23 19:25:32 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34051-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 23 Jan 2005 14:25:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 23 Jan 2005 14:25:32 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 45022 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 23 Jan 2005 19:25:29 +0000 Received: (qmail 45012 invoked from network); Sun, 23 Jan 2005 19:25:29 +0000 Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 11:24:29 -0800 From: Bill Jarboe <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Death of electronic music In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-Originating-IP: 4.243.33.50 To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=simple; s=test1; d=earthlink.net; h=Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Message-Id:Content-Transfer-Encoding:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer; b=AjoQ3jBJSpjx4BfTSpyF3DQN9vnuUZOfim37KdUWZ9FLO389F6g539Uopv7gL7Zv; X-BrightmailFiltered: true X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== X-ELNK-Trace: f6dd78c2ac81c6498eb596e2db90c20d239a348a220c2609823211e059ef72f6db25538d7b30d3d42601a10902912494350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <BE11AAD5.2CB1%xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> <xxxxx.xx.xx.xxx.xxx.xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> <03c001c5017a$b19bc1e0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx On Jan 23, 2005, at 10:53 AM, John Nowak wrote: > > On Jan 23, 2005, at 1:28 PM, Glenn Folkvord ((Hyperion Media)) wrote: > >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "graham miller" <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> >> >>> as soon as music is recorded it becomes electronic music. anything >>> music >>> produced by a speaker is electronic music. >> >> No, it becomes electronic sound. > > Ah christ... Must I really see this same blather again? Yes, you must. > > Go to your rooms. I'm already in my room. > > I guess there might be a difference between 'electronic sound' and 'electronic music' , the latter requiring a listener while the former doesn't require a listener. Of course this brings to mind the age old proverb: " If a tree fell on the moderately priced ($6,195 + shipping) tannoy monitors and no-one was there to hear it , was the person who wasn't there a) a lousy gardener b) an incompetent audio engineer c) someone with an exciting social life. " I think it is an axiom which is constantly being reevaluated, though and this is one reason there is such a huge market for electronic music. Bill --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Jan 23 19:23:39 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34050-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.114]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 23 Jan 2005 14:23:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 23 Jan 2005 14:23:39 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 43810 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 23 Jan 2005 19:23:35 +0000 Received: (qmail 43791 invoked from network); Sun, 23 Jan 2005 19:23:35 +0000 Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 14:23:37 -0500 From: John Nowak <xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Death of electronic music In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-PopBeforeSMTPSenders: xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx,xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - jet16.hasweb.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - hyperreal.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - johnnowak.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <BE11AAD5.2CB1%xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> <xxxxx.xx.xx.xxx.xxx.xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xx.xxx.xx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx On Jan 23, 2005, at 2:17 PM, John McCaig wrote: >> Blah blah blah blah blah -- that's what you sound like to me! >> >> ;-) > > i fart on you. That's the spirit. ;-) > but seriously, i think what has ending is technical difficulty of > making electronic music. In regards to commercial applications, yes. It is very easy for someone to fire up Reason and knock out some tunes. Of course, there are still areas and applications that require a lot of knowledge and experience. Morphing one sound into another still amuses my friends pretty well (or at least I'd think it would). > now, anyone with a computer can make some in an evening, its up to > artists to now to make Art. we just cannot be awed by DSP magic > anymores. content will be king. I'm not sure if I agree with this or not, but if it is true, it can only be a good thing. I've heard far too many warbling sine waves out of academia in my day... and I've not even been around that long. ;-) - John --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Jan 23 19:19:42 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34049-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.109]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 23 Jan 2005 14:19:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 23 Jan 2005 14:19:42 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 42365 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 23 Jan 2005 19:19:39 +0000 Received: (qmail 42355 invoked from network); Sun, 23 Jan 2005 19:19:39 +0000 Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 14:19:41 -0500 From: John Nowak <xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Death of electronic music In-reply-to: <l03130301be19a5516ed9@[213.84.105.55]> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-PopBeforeSMTPSenders: xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx,xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - jet16.hasweb.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - hyperreal.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - johnnowak.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <l03130300be19a282c5d8@[213.84.105.55]> <BE11AAD5.2CB1%xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> <xxxxx.xx.xx.xxx.xxx.xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> <l03130300be19a282c5d8@[213.84.105.55]> <l03130301be19a5516ed9@[213.84.105.55]> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx On Jan 23, 2005, at 2:07 PM, Arie van Schutterhoef wrote: >> Or rather, a completely unimportant notion that I've read 100 times >> since I began signing up for mailing lists. > -Maybe not all people spend their time in that way and they > might find this an important topic to be reminded of. > Maybe as remedy to your overload, try unsubscribing. How is this knowledge important, and who are these people that need to be reminded of it? I was only teasing before (as evidenced by the blatant winking emoticon), but now I'm curious. Enlighten me. - John --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Jan 23 19:17:33 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34048-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.111]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 23 Jan 2005 14:17:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 23 Jan 2005 14:17:33 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 39816 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 23 Jan 2005 19:17:25 +0000 Received: (qmail 39804 invoked from network); Sun, 23 Jan 2005 19:17:25 +0000 Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 11:17:21 -0800 From: John McCaig <xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Death of electronic music In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: John McCaig <xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=TsUodIcJ8C8wrHV6Ajcp+PCUFddn/zQQuvOY4AHOsQzFbHf4TvAJTS9jPH9VOUO/QQiyvCYxxTeRmHcTE+FTwtMV6e92ATONTfwiOPK2V3q47z28rxfJS52SL3Dse+dYSb9NCVJDp7goAXcWjZLwJLzSP7F7eLM2CQVJw3D7MB4= X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <BE11AAD5.2CB1%xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> <xxxxx.xx.xx.xxx.xxx.xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xx.xxx.xx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 13:55:22 -0500, John Nowak <xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote: > Blah blah blah blah blah -- that's what you sound like to me! > > ;-) > > - John > i fart on you. but seriously, i think what has ending is technical difficulty of making electronic music. now, anyone with a computer can make some in an evening, its up to artists to now to make Art. we just cannot be awed by DSP magic anymores. content will be king. xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Jan 23 19:07:45 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34047-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.110]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 23 Jan 2005 14:07:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 23 Jan 2005 14:07:45 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 36645 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 23 Jan 2005 19:07:39 +0000 Received: (qmail 36635 invoked from network); Sun, 23 Jan 2005 19:07:38 +0000 Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 20:07:35 +0100 From: Arie van Schutterhoef <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Death of electronic music In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <l03130301be19a5516ed9@[213.84.105.55]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <l03130300be19a282c5d8@[213.84.105.55]> <BE11AAD5.2CB1%xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> <xxxxx.xx.xx.xxx.xxx.xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> <l03130300be19a282c5d8@[213.84.105.55]> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >Or rather, a completely unimportant notion that I've read 100 times >since I began signing up for mailing lists. -Maybe not all people spend their time in that way and they might find this an important topic to be reminded of. Maybe as remedy to your overload, try unsubscribing. It can have some comforting benefits. >Blah blah blah blah blah -- that's what you sound like to me! -Thank you John... 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Sun Jan 23 18:55:26 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34046-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.113]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 23 Jan 2005 13:55:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 23 Jan 2005 13:55:25 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 32601 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 23 Jan 2005 18:55:20 +0000 Received: (qmail 32591 invoked from network); Sun, 23 Jan 2005 18:55:20 +0000 Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 13:55:22 -0500 From: John Nowak <xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Death of electronic music In-reply-to: <l03130300be19a282c5d8@[213.84.105.55]> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-PopBeforeSMTPSenders: xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx,xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - jet16.hasweb.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - hyperreal.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - johnnowak.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <BE11AAD5.2CB1%xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> <xxxxx.xx.xx.xxx.xxx.xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> <l03130300be19a282c5d8@[213.84.105.55]> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx On Jan 23, 2005, at 1:52 PM, Arie van Schutterhoef wrote: >> No, it becomes electronic sound > -An important notion, people tend to forget, or perhaps > not even aware of. > Like a lot of things... Or rather, a completely unimportant notion that I've read 100 times since I began signing up for mailing lists. Blah blah blah blah blah -- that's what you sound like to me! ;-) - John --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Jan 23 18:53:42 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34045-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 23 Jan 2005 13:53:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 23 Jan 2005 13:53:42 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 31429 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 23 Jan 2005 18:53:39 +0000 Received: (qmail 31419 invoked from network); Sun, 23 Jan 2005 18:53:39 +0000 Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 13:53:40 -0500 From: John Nowak <xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Death of electronic music In-reply-to: <03c001c5017a$b19bc1e0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-PopBeforeSMTPSenders: xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx,xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - jet16.hasweb.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - hyperreal.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - johnnowak.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <BE11AAD5.2CB1%xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> <xxxxx.xx.xx.xxx.xxx.xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> <03c001c5017a$b19bc1e0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx On Jan 23, 2005, at 1:28 PM, Glenn Folkvord ((Hyperion Media)) wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "graham miller" <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> > >> as soon as music is recorded it becomes electronic music. anything >> music >> produced by a speaker is electronic music. > > No, it becomes electronic sound. Ah christ... Must I really see this same blather again? Go to your rooms. - John --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Jan 23 18:52:22 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34044-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.114]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 23 Jan 2005 13:52:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 23 Jan 2005 13:52:22 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 30292 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 23 Jan 2005 18:52:18 +0000 Received: (qmail 30282 invoked from network); Sun, 23 Jan 2005 18:52:17 +0000 Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 19:52:13 +0100 From: Arie van Schutterhoef <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Death of electronic music In-reply-to: <03c001c5017a$b19bc1e0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <l03130300be19a282c5d8@[213.84.105.55]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <BE11AAD5.2CB1%xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> <xxxxx.xx.xx.xxx.xxx.xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >No, it becomes electronic sound. -An important notion, people tend to forget, or perhaps not even aware of. Like a lot of things... 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Sun Jan 23 18:38:19 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34043-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.114]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 23 Jan 2005 13:38:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 23 Jan 2005 13:38:19 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 25662 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 23 Jan 2005 18:38:12 +0000 Received: (qmail 25645 invoked from network); Sun, 23 Jan 2005 18:38:11 +0000 Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 19:28:25 +0100 From: "Glenn Folkvord (Hyperion Media)" <xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Death of electronic music To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <03c001c5017a$b19bc1e0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <BE11AAD5.2CB1%xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> <xxxxx.xx.xx.xxx.xxx.xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx ----- Original Message ----- From: "graham miller" <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> > as soon as music is recorded it becomes electronic music. anything music > produced by a speaker is electronic music. No, it becomes electronic sound. Best greetings from Glenn Chief editor @ Electronic Shadows http://www.jarretribute.com http://www.electronicshadows.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Jan 23 14:34:18 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34042-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 23 Jan 2005 09:34:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 23 Jan 2005 09:34:18 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 77366 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 23 Jan 2005 14:34:14 +0000 Received: (qmail 77354 invoked from network); Sun, 23 Jan 2005 14:34:13 +0000 Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 14:34:12 +0000 From: Catskin Royale <xxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] [ot] portable computers [WAS: minidisc recorders] In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@x-x.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: Catskin Royale <xxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=lxGhpLqQeXGgLNDJXsEqmAUTZHL5jzBGiGe5Sx/0xtCQq/zPawMvlpmpLcnZBpvRsi90mmGBUQDHTTt4B9u++WRMFFKafMfJXEbitDCgwAsMey/Ls832xZsMzWJgs6+UG8xwdVkjIeTiKe+Ob8VLBMN2yfmPkxYg+VNUPl6jGFQ= X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@x-x.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 20:32:44 +0100, derek holzer <xxxxx@x-x.xxx> wrote: > Hi Eric, > > Eric b wrote: > > On a somewhat related note anyone have any experience > > running Linux on their ipod for th purpose of field > > recordings? > > ive have used this system. i have found that the background noise present in the recording is too great for when recording anything quiet, but acceptable in more noisy situations. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Jan 23 14:17:11 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34041-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 23 Jan 2005 09:17:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 23 Jan 2005 09:17:11 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 73908 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 23 Jan 2005 14:17:07 +0000 Received: (qmail 73898 invoked from network); Sun, 23 Jan 2005 14:17:06 +0000 Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 14:17:04 +0000 (GMT) From: Alex Perepelycia <xxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx.xx> Subject: [microsound] new EP on-line To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Dear Microsounders, I've attached a link to some new tracks. Hope U enjoy them. All the best. @. http://www.archive.org/audio/audio-details-db.php?collection=dreamland_recordings&collectionid=dlnet024 ___________________________________________________________ ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - all new features - even more fun! http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Jan 23 10:59:25 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34040-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 23 Jan 2005 05:59:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 23 Jan 2005 05:59:25 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 36534 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 23 Jan 2005 10:59:23 +0000 Received: (qmail 36524 invoked from network); Sun, 23 Jan 2005 10:59:23 +0000 Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 11:59:15 +0100 From: ".kspr" <xxxx@x-xxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] [ot] Roberto Pflech To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@x-xxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx This is very off topic, I'm sorry. I am hosting some sounds from an experimental sound artist with a very special sound and approach towards electronic music. Roberto Pflech uses real instruments like drums, piano, guitar and organ. I find the music very interesting and just thought I might share it with you. Check Roberto Pflech and his music here: http://rpflech.cjb.net There's a 3-track ep available at his website, download it for free as high quality mp3. Regards - /.kspr http://kspr.pale-dawn.dk http://monobond.pale-dawn.dk --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Jan 23 07:12:24 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34039-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 23 Jan 2005 02:12:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 23 Jan 2005 02:12:24 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 3864 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 23 Jan 2005 07:12:22 +0000 Received: (qmail 3854 invoked from network); Sun, 23 Jan 2005 07:12:21 +0000 Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 02:17:12 -0500 From: chad vollrath <xxxxxx@xxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Re: privilege, boundaries and class X-Sender: xxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxx (Unverified) To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <x.x.x.x.x.xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For a Marxist the material relationships present in the production and consumption of the music are necessarily of primary concern. Hence we can't really ask if Adorno COULD fuck...we can only ask questions about the forces that construct him as a "fucker," or one who gets "fucked." :-) "Adorno is at his best when he critiques the economic systems and structures that, in his view, are the machinations of culture. His cutting tone and slicing critique are some kind of relief at the turn of the 21C... However, when he attempts to turn aesthetics to ethical critique, he is not so much generalizing as condemning an essential aspect of existence: the rhythm of repetition that, one comes to realise, touches our world .. the sun up, the sun down .. we dance, we drink, we sleep, we make love .. Adorno's lack of understanding of rhythm-- no, scratch that -- that he can't FEEL rhythm worries the shit out of me .. how did Adorno make love without rhythm? How did he dance in bed? How did he see the sun everyday? How did he write sans the rhythm, the very ritual, the discipline and masochism required to write over and over again?" Totally. There are so many great thinkers guilty of doing exactly this. Heidegger's writing on art for example. I like these moments though: moments in which the thinker makes a puzzlingly reductive move with respect to a certain phenomenon in the culture in which they find themselves. These moments remind us that thinking is inextricably tied to the thinker's cultural and historical moment. Jazz for Adorno was not our jazz, even if we're listening to the same records - music is never a "timeless classic". As others have pointed out, his critique of jazz was rooted in where and when he lived. It is my opinion that Adorno's comments on jazz say much more about the history of jazz than they do about Adorno. Were his opinions eccentric? Perhaps, but Heidegger was a Nazi. From our perspective it's hard to be more "eccentric" than being a Nazi sympathizer. Perhaps, like Heidegger, he might call this a "blunder" if he had had more time to reflect. Had Heidegger owned a time machine, he never would have supported the Nazis. Had Adorno been privy to our perspective, it would be difficult to believe that he would persist in his obviously shortsighted condemnation. My point: you gotta know when to hold em, know when to fold em. Or...you can't polish a turd. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Jan 23 06:49:23 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34038-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 23 Jan 2005 01:49:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 23 Jan 2005 01:49:23 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 98259 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 23 Jan 2005 06:49:21 +0000 Received: (qmail 98248 invoked from network); Sun, 23 Jan 2005 06:49:20 +0000 Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 07:51:07 +0100 From: derek holzer <xxxxx@x-x.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] [ot] the 56k challenge In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@x-x.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041206) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> <00e001c4fa93$a4fb36c0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx At variable bit rate MP3, lower frequencies require less information to encode than higher frequencies. With some calculation, you could make a pretty long bass drone that would still come in under 56K easy. I remember something like a 10 minute Slub track using this technique that still fit on a floppy. Another idea would be to provide song "fragements" that could be arranged randomly, in a playlist, or by some other set of instructions. There was a whole bunch of stuff done on the Fallt site a while back that simply used the broswer's "refresh" function to mix a series of *extremely* small fragments. Total size of the various "tracks" ranged started somewhere around 6 or 12 Kb. I think maybe Pimmon was involved in that project. Likewise, a MIDI file, PD patch or any other essentially "textual" instructions for playing a "track" need not take up more than a few Kb of space. thinking out of the box, d. Chris Bryan wrote: > It seems to me that it is impossible to have a .mp3 or .wav that is > more than 1min and 56k or less. I think 60k is the smallest you can > get 1 min of .wav or .mp3. > > I looked around on the net, and tried a bunch of programs and the only > thing I could come up with would be to use a different file type. > If I'm missing something, or there is some program that can bypass > these limitations could someone clue me in. > > If I'm right, and the project is an impossibility should we decide on > a revision? How about .ogg files. This would give us lots of time to > work with. > > -Chris -- derek holzer ::: http://www.umatic.nl ---Oblique Strategy # 36: "Consult other sources -promising -unpromising" --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Jan 23 05:54:02 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34037-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.111]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 23 Jan 2005 00:54:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 23 Jan 2005 00:54:02 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 88039 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 23 Jan 2005 05:54:00 +0000 Received: (qmail 88029 invoked from network); Sun, 23 Jan 2005 05:54:00 +0000 Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 23:53:53 -0600 From: Chris Bryan <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] [ot] the 56k challenge In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: Chris Bryan <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=f1/om5JLQnIX1TWEvJ5tHzgDi1epzd+oWTWnzz/TtaCg3XfRz6LWagRlAiz0/Dfqu/VMaZw0/tKG5Pvv4AW5WGxE+hqhR0uaMvLxLfMG/FQ8U4Nf8vwAEIW7+EJ2mJhqRFviJ4FmH16lZCAf8eyv5TgZsSnhht4xlNxcfj07598= X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> <00e001c4fa93$a4fb36c0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx It seems to me that it is impossible to have a .mp3 or .wav that is more than 1min and 56k or less. I think 60k is the smallest you can get 1 min of .wav or .mp3. I looked around on the net, and tried a bunch of programs and the only thing I could come up with would be to use a different file type. If I'm missing something, or there is some program that can bypass these limitations could someone clue me in. If I'm right, and the project is an impossibility should we decide on a revision? How about .ogg files. This would give us lots of time to work with. -Chris -- |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| (1.8)sec.records www.1pt8.tk |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Jan 23 04:33:32 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34036-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 23:33:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 22 Jan 2005 23:33:32 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 67853 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 23 Jan 2005 04:33:24 +0000 Received: (qmail 67841 invoked from network); Sun, 23 Jan 2005 04:33:23 +0000 Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 23:33:17 -0500 From: John Nowak <xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] [ot] portable computers [WAS: minidisc recorders] In-reply-to: <000801c500ff$550e7b00$xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-PopBeforeSMTPSenders: xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx,xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - jet16.hasweb.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - hyperreal.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - johnnowak.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@x-x.xxx> <000801c500ff$550e7b00$xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx On Jan 22, 2005, at 10:55 PM, DaveX wrote: > How about the Mini Macs? I bet they'd make a nice field recorder. > Hell, I'd > drag a car battery and a 386 into the jungle if I thought I could get > some > cool noises. *lol* For the price of a new mini disc recorder, I'd pick up a used iBook. It doesn't take much horsepower to record a single track to disk. You'd have a lot of space too. Crap battery life though, and much more awkward to use and carry around. Hm. Ah what do I care... I get all my source material from Audio Hijack and the ITMS... - John --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Jan 23 03:50:59 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34035-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 22:50:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 22 Jan 2005 22:50:59 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 56855 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 23 Jan 2005 03:50:56 +0000 Received: (qmail 56843 invoked from network); Sun, 23 Jan 2005 03:50:55 +0000 Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 21:55:08 -0600 From: DaveX <xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] [ot] portable computers [WAS: minidisc recorders] To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <000801c500ff$550e7b00$xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1478 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@x-x.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx How about the Mini Macs? I bet they'd make a nice field recorder. Hell, I'd drag a car battery and a 386 into the jungle if I thought I could get some cool noises. *lol* DaveX --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Jan 22 19:31:02 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34034-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 14:31:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 22 Jan 2005 14:31:02 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 67711 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 22 Jan 2005 19:30:59 +0000 Received: (qmail 67701 invoked from network); Sat, 22 Jan 2005 19:30:58 +0000 Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 20:32:44 +0100 From: derek holzer <xxxxx@x-x.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] [ot] portable computers [WAS: minidisc recorders] In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@x-x.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041206) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Hi Eric, Eric b wrote: > On a somewhat related note anyone have any experience > running Linux on their ipod for th purpose of field > recordings? So happy to hear that someone else has an interest in this kind of hacking. I'm doing some work with IPAQs and Linux at STEIM next March, trying to build an algorithmic field recording device. But the whole package gets pretty bulky: IPAQ, extra battery/CF card jacket, external 2496 preamp/AD converter, plus a Bluetooth GPS for tagging sounds with location information. You can read about it here: http://www.umatic.nl/projects_pandev.html In the end, I'm not sure I'd recommend an IPAQ as a rugged field solution. The interface is a bit too wierd, with the stylus and all, and battery life is a serious issue. For the kind of cash it takes buy an IPAQ and trick it out with CF soundcard and external preamp/AD unit, you could almost certainly buy a dedicated HD recorder. But you wouldn't be able to program the HD recorder to do fancy tricks, and that's where it gets wild! So I'd be *very* interested to know if Ipod + Linux could be used for something similar. I'll also be checking out lunchbox-sized computers running on mini-ITX motherboards for a more cost-efficient way of handling the idea, but almost everybody and their dog [within a certain socioeconomic bracket, anyway] seem to have an Ipod. My whole point is that, once you have access to OS running all these portable devices, you have a small, portable computer that is probably faster than your average desktop of five years ago! Good for much more than playing MP3s or storing phone numbers. Keep me up to date on it. best, Derek -- derek holzer ::: http://www.umatic.nl ---Oblique Strategy # 36: "Consult other sources -promising -unpromising" --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Jan 22 19:08:32 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34033-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 14:08:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 22 Jan 2005 14:08:32 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 61051 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 22 Jan 2005 19:08:25 +0000 Received: (qmail 61040 invoked from network); Sat, 22 Jan 2005 19:08:25 +0000 Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 11:08:22 -0800 (PST) From: Eric b <xxxx_xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] [ot] minidisc recorders In-reply-to: <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx@xxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=Vz6xhPX5/6g+19o6vgcg2GkHPmdN9h0MKcLtftZ1bfAJBDt7oQWsE98gmaYXQBqkKmN5rKHPP/bTbJGQsshx+XIAxv42VbhjDn/NXOHh5etCo43sivN3CHZnNLUQKYoEES3LiZa9irDbmKAkOHkNIATChLgujTM0CYnzLvvLVUA= ; X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx On a somewhat related note anyone have any experience running Linux on their ipod for th purpose of field recordings? Apparently i can record uncompressed audio at 96khz now. I've sucessfully installed podzilla on my ipod just can't find a way to set my mic levels in the OS. Which leads me to believe that i might have to find an external pre amp. --- Aaron Ximm <xxxxx@xxxx.xxx> wrote: > Another comment on my hobby horse: > > > wow this is cool, forget md's then...what do you > mean by it produces small > > The big unsolved -- for me -- issue with all CF/HD > recorders (as opposed > to either DAT or MD) is the "single point of > failure" problem. Almost as > big is the having-enough-media-in-the-field problem. > > Neither are big issues if you're doing excursion > recording from your > house, or traveling with a laptop, but on longer > trips, this is a REAL > problem. There are various portable boxes made for > photographers that > will rip CF cards to a backup HD or burn CD(s), but > then you're carrying > around a bunch of relatively fragile disks -- > nonideal. > > This problem moved from the theoretical to the > extremely relevant for me > earlier this year when my day kit bag was stolen > while I was traveling. I > lost my recorder, mics, and a few hours of > recordings. > > If it'd been an HD recorder (as I'd thought of > bringing), it would have > been several weeks worth of work... > > Something to consider! > > best, > aaron > > xxxxx@xxxx.xxx > http://www.quietamerican.org > > | quod omne animal post | > | cogitum est triste... | > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? All your favorites on one personal page – Try My Yahoo! http://my.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Jan 22 17:47:18 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34032-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 12:47:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 22 Jan 2005 12:47:18 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 37802 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 22 Jan 2005 17:47:15 +0000 Received: (qmail 37792 invoked from network); Sat, 22 Jan 2005 17:47:15 +0000 Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 12:47:17 -0500 From: John Nowak <xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] [ot] Fwd: Lifestyles of the Rich and Heartless In-reply-to: <BE16A1D4.433C%xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-PopBeforeSMTPSenders: xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx,xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - jet16.hasweb.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - hyperreal.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - johnnowak.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <BE16A1D4.433C%xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx On Jan 21, 2005, at 12:11 PM, precursor wrote: >> Inauguration: Lifestyles of the Rich and Heartless > > that hurts!!!!...its insane to be sane in this world, aint it? I can't even be concerned about the inauguration spending to be honest. The fact that people are complaining about this recently more than the millions we spend in Iraq every day shows how insane the American public is as a whole. - John, part of the American public --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Jan 22 05:10:39 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34030-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.112]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 00:10:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 22 Jan 2005 00:10:39 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 84111 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 22 Jan 2005 05:10:38 +0000 Received: (qmail 84101 invoked from network); Sat, 22 Jan 2005 05:10:38 +0000 Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 23:14:59 -0600 From: DaveX <xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] call for demos To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <002701c50041$5211ce20$xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1478 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> <00c601c5001c$f214c960$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxx> <001601c50040$b2808040$xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx either that, or its the cleverest plug I wish I'd thought of first. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Jan 22 05:10:11 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34029-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 00:10:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 22 Jan 2005 00:10:11 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 83207 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 22 Jan 2005 05:10:11 +0000 Received: (qmail 83197 invoked from network); Sat, 22 Jan 2005 05:10:11 +0000 Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 23:14:31 -0600 From: DaveX <xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] call for demos To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <002101c50041$41bb5f00$xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1478 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> <00c601c5001c$f214c960$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxx> <001601c50040$b2808040$xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx fuck. sorry. I swear I tried to sent that offlist. oh well. beat my ass already. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Jan 22 05:06:13 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34028-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 00:06:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 22 Jan 2005 00:06:13 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 81641 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 22 Jan 2005 05:06:12 +0000 Received: (qmail 81630 invoked from network); Sat, 22 Jan 2005 05:06:11 +0000 Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 23:10:31 -0600 From: DaveX <xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] call for demos To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <001601c50040$b2808040$xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1478 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> <00c601c5001c$f214c960$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx John-- Regarding: "I'm going to try something else, a series of split CDRs, thirty minutes allocated for each artist, with two per release. Anyway, if you're interested in this project get in touch off list." Can you give me a little more info? I'm curious if you have a deadline going right now, or details, etc. My name is DaveX. I work with experimental sound in pretty much every variety, I rarely have any real boundaries. And interestingly enough, I have one of those Knurl 3" limited editions that Alan sent me, so I thought that was a nice sign that your label was something I would dig on. At any rate, right now, I am working on some extended pieces involving slow sound, and homemade turntable setups to produce different sounds, also with experimental tone arms and needle setups. The project is not yet complete, but should be fairly soon. If this is something you might be interested in, I could send it your way. Let me know your preferred method of arrival, possibly an FTP? In addition, I wanted to let you know about my radio show, which incidentally, is where I am already apparently playing your latest release, ha ha. I'll have to mention that this evening. Full details of the show are at: http://home.mchsi.com/~itde but the nitty-gritty is that I broadcast from a not-for-profit community radio station and host a weekly show featuring experimental music of all types. I routinely play long cuts, I never play excerpts, and I'm not picky about what format I receive submissions in, just so long as the sound is equal to or greater than the sound of an ordinary car radio. I'd love to be able to review some submissions from Cohort, since my goal is to be able to play the finest experimental music available today. If you sign up for the e-mail list (which only gets about one mail from me a week) then you can get playlists, and individual show info, usually the same day of the show. My station, WDBX, broadcasts terrestrially at 91.1FM in Southern Illinois, and also live online. Check www.wdbx.org for info on that. I'd appreciate hearing back from you on these matters, thanks so much! DaveX ps-- if you see Alan, tell him "hi" for me. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Jan 22 00:54:58 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34027-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.83]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 19:54:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 21 Jan 2005 19:54:58 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 95817 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 22 Jan 2005 00:54:56 +0000 Received: (qmail 95807 invoked from network); Sat, 22 Jan 2005 00:54:56 +0000 Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 16:53:50 -0800 From: roberth <xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] call for demos To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <00c601c5001c$f214c960$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 Content-type: text/plain; reply-type=original; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx hi john i emailed a few days ago but haven't heard from you. i wanted more info about your compilation. what are you looking for. deadline. mailing address and whether you are ok with sound designer 2 files. thanks robert horton ----- Original Message ----- From: <xxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> To: <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Sent: Monday, January 17, 2005 11:28 PM Subject: [microsound] Re: call for demos > Hello Microsounders, > > John Gore here from Cohort Records. I"ve tried comps but can't seem to get > enough tracks for one bloody CDR release. Or maybe it's the fact that it's > a > CDR. (If it is I'd appreciate the feedback on this issue since it's a > major > frigging time waster to go through this process every 6 months and have it > fail). I > don't know, but I'm going to try something else, a series of split CDRs, > thirty minutes allocated for each artist, with two per release. Anyway, if > you're > interested in this project get in touch off list. But please, no mp3 > files. I > know it's a bit old fashioned but I want wave files. > > John > http://cohortrecords.0catch.com > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Jan 22 00:39:11 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34026-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.82]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 19:39:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 21 Jan 2005 19:39:11 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 83193 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 22 Jan 2005 00:39:08 +0000 Received: (qmail 83174 invoked from network); Sat, 22 Jan 2005 00:39:08 +0000 Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 18:38:20 -0600 From: Francisco Alvarez Alvarez <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] more noise In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> X-Originating-IP: [81.41.180.138] X-Sender: xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Bcc: Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Originating-Email: [xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Jan 2005 00:39:04.0678 (UTC) FILETIME=[C658B860:01C5001A] Hi! new ART GALLERY interested in sound, noise and alternative art behaviour: DF_ARTE CONTEMPORANEA. Santiago de Compostela (Galicia, SPAIN). xx_xxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx Now: GREENS. ANTONIO BALLESTER. Jan.8 to Feb.12 2005. 24 Drawings (green pencil) on paper(70x100 cm). Images from the web page of Guardia Civil (Spanish Public Order Forces dressed in dark green) showing their activities against crime. The artist also build a table with the incriminatory objects of a drug dealers gang (obviously, all the drugs and chemical products are fake -or legal- material). AT THE OPENING, GREAT NOISE EVENT WITH: GRANDMOFFWORK(MADRID)voices+big muff,bass+driller,trumpet,TV,tone generator,recorded ?????? on CD,drums,flying objects... GUESTS: BAIKAL-a.k.a.LA BESCHEISSEN UNDERGROUND-(from LLANES,ASTURIAS):voice,prepared guitar. VX featuring 5735 (from ?????????): iBook(SuperCollider). Almost 40 minutes of noise,feedback and distortion stopped by the police! All recorded by GRANDMOFFOWRK & filmed by artist ANTONIO BALLESTER. MORE: Dec.16 2004 at TRONIC DISEASE (MADRID):GRANDMOFFWORK + PAN_SONIC. Dec.16 2004 to Jan.21 2005 at LOS 29 ENCHUFES EN ESPACIO F (MADRID): ANTONIO BALLESTER. JUST A LITTLE CRIME, NEW DOMINIONS. Reconstruction (with cheap materials and artist own clothes) of a crime scene. Four corpses -3 guys, 1 cop- in a public park. The expo ends with... ANOTHER GREAT NOISE EVENT with GRANDMOFFWORK. Also filmed by the artist. _________________________________________________________________ T1msn Fotos: Todo lo que quieres saber sobre fotografía digital http://search.t1msn.com.mx/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Jan 22 00:31:50 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34025-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 19:31:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 21 Jan 2005 19:31:50 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 79518 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 22 Jan 2005 00:31:46 +0000 Received: (qmail 79507 invoked from network); Sat, 22 Jan 2005 00:31:46 +0000 Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 16:31:39 -0800 (PST) From: Aaron Ximm <xxxxx@xxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] [ot] minidisc recorders In-reply-to: <BE16A40D.4343%xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx@xxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-WELL-Auth: Yes X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.80/677/Fri Jan 21 09:50:45 2005 clamav-milter version 0.80j on smtp.well.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <BE16A40D.4343%xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Another comment on my hobby horse: > wow this is cool, forget md's then...what do you mean by it produces small The big unsolved -- for me -- issue with all CF/HD recorders (as opposed to either DAT or MD) is the "single point of failure" problem. Almost as big is the having-enough-media-in-the-field problem. Neither are big issues if you're doing excursion recording from your house, or traveling with a laptop, but on longer trips, this is a REAL problem. There are various portable boxes made for photographers that will rip CF cards to a backup HD or burn CD(s), but then you're carrying around a bunch of relatively fragile disks -- nonideal. This problem moved from the theoretical to the extremely relevant for me earlier this year when my day kit bag was stolen while I was traveling. I lost my recorder, mics, and a few hours of recordings. If it'd been an HD recorder (as I'd thought of bringing), it would have been several weeks worth of work... Something to consider! best, aaron xxxxx@xxxx.xxx http://www.quietamerican.org | quod omne animal post | | cogitum est triste... | --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Jan 21 18:15:33 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34023-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.109]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 13:15:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 21 Jan 2005 13:15:33 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 99209 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 21 Jan 2005 18:15:24 +0000 Received: (qmail 99199 invoked from network); Fri, 21 Jan 2005 18:15:24 +0000 Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 13:22:54 -0500 From: Ben <xxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] [mp3] addenda update 2004/+ new To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.606) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - secure.wehostusa.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - hyperreal.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - seasonalbk.net X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx greetings thanks for the support and feedback from so many people over 2004 new sounds on addenda for january 2005 from omnid - - 2004 addenda archive _ sounds from Andy Hayleck, sawako, Sebastien Roux, the beige channel, sc.all, Kenneth Kirschner, NY Phonographers Union Performance, Ian Epps, Accelera Deck, radio bcst from Ian Epps / Andy Graydon/ benowen, and Luxury Estates. - - new work posted each month. http://www.seasonalbk.net/_addenda.html best wishes ben www.seasonalbk.net --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Jan 21 18:21:48 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34024-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 13:21:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 21 Jan 2005 13:21:48 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 2000 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 21 Jan 2005 18:21:44 +0000 Received: (qmail 1990 invoked from network); Fri, 21 Jan 2005 18:21:43 +0000 Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 13:21:40 -0500 From: Peter Price <xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Re: privilege, boundaries and class In-reply-to: <BE16AC9D.1A6B1%xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.552) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Hi Tobias, You're right...i have conflated the piece "Fuck Art, Let's Dance" which you linked to some time ago into your last post to this group without making that clear. Also I should have clarified my thoughts on your rhythmic reductionism. The meshing of a musicalogicaly reductive definition of rhythm with a broad non musical definition is how your "naturalization" of particular musical forms functions. Your stuff about "posing a question of affect" is either too cagey or too subtle for me. But I will try to pick it up some time when I have more time to think. "rhythm as affect?" Maybe something like the "intensive" qualities of rhythm rather than "extensive" qualities? But I do see a change in your thinking...before the question was if Adorno could dance, now its if he can fuck. On Friday, January 21, 2005, at 12:57 PM, tobias c. van Veen wrote: > hi Peter, > > - First, you might want to parse what is presented as "my" writing -- > I have > presented a number of possible theses and reduxes -- these are possible > avenues of thought, and this has been made explicit; > > - I never once mentioned electronic dance music; nor did I ever say I > "prefer music.. this way;" nor would I characterize what I am trying > to do > as "naturalizing;" (an upcoming publication of a talk I have at SLS > Paris > last summer actually discusses city grids to binary and digital logic, > among > other things); > > - I think mentioning rhythm as the rhythm of making love to the sun to > that > of culture is a fairly broad definition of rhythm and hardly > "musicological" > nor "reductive;" I never once mentioned a time signature nor any > metric; > > - I think what you mistake in my writing for "ethical critique" > (though I > would never wish to restrain your critique) would perhaps better be > described as "posing a question of affect" -- if only for the sake of > accuracy; > > - You might want to re-read and notice the performative switch from > understanding to FEEL -- to qualify this -- a switch from the critique > of > judgement to that of affect (I use "feel" as most people will get this > term.. however on the critical level I would wish to make a distinction > between affect and emotion, between, say, the theories of Lawrence > Grossberg > over affect and Brian Massumi -- however it doesn't matter if nobody > knows > these references, what I am getting at is a sense of affect -- rhythm > as > affect -- which has nothing to do with metrics, mathematics, > quantification, > calculation, nor the sensory faculties of emotion): > > "However, when [Adorno] attempts to turn aesthetics to ethical > critique, he > is not so much generalizing as condemning an essential aspect of > existence: > the rhythm of repetition that, one comes to realise, touches our world > .. > the sun up, the sun down .. we dance, we drink, we sleep, we make love > .. > Adorno's lack of understanding of rhythm-- no, scratch that -- that he > can't > FEEL rhythm worries the shit out of me .. how did Adorno make love > without > rhythm? How did he dance in bed? How did he see the sun everyday?" > > In this paragraph: > > > rhythm of repetition > touches > FEEL > > also a "scratch:" a thought posed and removed, reframed from > "understanding" > (Kant) to "FEEL" (affect, we might think Deleuze / Massumi here if > anyone > wishes to follow the trail of references I usually leave out when > writing > emails in a casual manner .. ) > > .. no mention here of dance music, metrics, counting time, a certain > BPM, > preferring anything, etc. > > Instead I want to pose the questions: > > ".. how did Adorno make love without rhythm? How did he dance in bed? > How > did he see the sun everyday?" > > > Which reminds me, just now, of the question Derrida poses in the > DERRIDA > documentary -- he wanted to know what the major philosophers were like > in > bed.. Heidegger.. Kant.. > > So how about Adorno? Did he ever lighten up? > Did he ever get a hard-on for Emma Goldman? > > cheers, > > tV > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Jan 21 17:57:10 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34022-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.113]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 12:57:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 21 Jan 2005 12:57:10 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 90701 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 21 Jan 2005 17:57:06 +0000 Received: (qmail 90691 invoked from network); Fri, 21 Jan 2005 17:57:05 +0000 Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 12:57:01 -0500 From: "tobias c. van Veen" <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Re: privilege, boundaries and class In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: Microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BE16AC9D.1A6B1%xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.4.030702.0 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx hi Peter, - First, you might want to parse what is presented as "my" writing -- I have presented a number of possible theses and reduxes -- these are possible avenues of thought, and this has been made explicit; - I never once mentioned electronic dance music; nor did I ever say I "prefer music.. this way;" nor would I characterize what I am trying to do as "naturalizing;" (an upcoming publication of a talk I have at SLS Paris last summer actually discusses city grids to binary and digital logic, among other things); - I think mentioning rhythm as the rhythm of making love to the sun to that of culture is a fairly broad definition of rhythm and hardly "musicological" nor "reductive;" I never once mentioned a time signature nor any metric; - I think what you mistake in my writing for "ethical critique" (though I would never wish to restrain your critique) would perhaps better be described as "posing a question of affect" -- if only for the sake of accuracy; - You might want to re-read and notice the performative switch from understanding to FEEL -- to qualify this -- a switch from the critique of judgement to that of affect (I use "feel" as most people will get this term.. however on the critical level I would wish to make a distinction between affect and emotion, between, say, the theories of Lawrence Grossberg over affect and Brian Massumi -- however it doesn't matter if nobody knows these references, what I am getting at is a sense of affect -- rhythm as affect -- which has nothing to do with metrics, mathematics, quantification, calculation, nor the sensory faculties of emotion): "However, when [Adorno] attempts to turn aesthetics to ethical critique, he is not so much generalizing as condemning an essential aspect of existence: the rhythm of repetition that, one comes to realise, touches our world .. the sun up, the sun down .. we dance, we drink, we sleep, we make love .. Adorno's lack of understanding of rhythm-- no, scratch that -- that he can't FEEL rhythm worries the shit out of me .. how did Adorno make love without rhythm? How did he dance in bed? How did he see the sun everyday?" In this paragraph: rhythm of repetition touches FEEL also a "scratch:" a thought posed and removed, reframed from "understanding" (Kant) to "FEEL" (affect, we might think Deleuze / Massumi here if anyone wishes to follow the trail of references I usually leave out when writing emails in a casual manner .. ) ... no mention here of dance music, metrics, counting time, a certain BPM, preferring anything, etc. Instead I want to pose the questions: ".. how did Adorno make love without rhythm? How did he dance in bed? How did he see the sun everyday?" Which reminds me, just now, of the question Derrida poses in the DERRIDA documentary -- he wanted to know what the major philosophers were like in bed.. Heidegger.. Kant.. So how about Adorno? Did he ever lighten up? Did he ever get a hard-on for Emma Goldman? cheers, tV --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Jan 21 17:39:16 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34021-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.111]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 12:39:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 21 Jan 2005 12:39:15 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 81776 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 21 Jan 2005 17:39:12 +0000 Received: (qmail 81766 invoked from network); Fri, 21 Jan 2005 17:39:12 +0000 Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 12:39:08 -0500 From: Peter Price <xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Re: privilege, boundaries and class In-reply-to: <BE1686BD.1A690%xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.552) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Tobias, I disagree with almost everything you are saying here which makes it a little difficult to know where to start. Part of it is that I think I must have a different way of parsing what I read. I am not getting some of the readings you are finding in your quotes from Adorno, and feel like you are missing (or ignoring) a lot in these quotes that I see as significant. Much of this comes down to , as you have rightly pointed out, a question of the meaning of "rhythm." Adorno says he is using the word "rhythmical" in the "everyday sense" and the goes on to define this usage. He does this so that his meaning will be clear to those who might be used to thinking of the term with a broader musicological meaning. To make some sense of your comments it is important to note that your use of the term "rhythmic" is also of this "everyday sense." So we can with your permission include you in a quote like > To play > rhythmically means, to these people, to play in such a way that even if > pseudo-individualizations--counter-accents and other > "differentiations"-occur, the relation to the ground meter is > preserved. To > be musical means to them to be capable of following given rhythmical > patterns without being disturbed by "individualizing" aberrations, and > to > fit even the syncopations into the basic time units. A modern paraphraze of this might be "a music is rhythmic if any musically illiterate wanker can nod his head to the beat." Actually your understanding of "rhythm" is even more reductive than the understanding Adorno was complaining about, because at least back in the day popular dance music could be in either duple or triple meter over a broad range of tempos. I am willing to bet that when you say "rhythm" you mean a steady four on the floor within a tempo range of 100-160 beats per minute, and likely furthermore a structural organization (if one exists at all past the meter unit) emphasizing the logical units of binary code: 2, 4, 8, 16, 32, 64 etc. Can great music be made within these restrictions? Of course. I am a huge fan of....fill in your own blank here. But if this is what "rhythm" has come to mean than we certainly have lost a lot of musical possibilities. That you prefer your music structured this way is understandable...it is closely related to the functioning of our machines, the rectilinear grids of our cites, and yes to the bilateral symetry of our bodies....but not for instance the triple meter beating of our heart. The tendancy to try and naturalize industrialized dance music with mythic third world purity and natural "rhythmic" cycles of the planet is particularly misguided it seems to me as neither the natural world nor remaining pre-literate cultural forms are organized in ways that mimic the functioning of our machines. You complained about Adorno turning aesthetic critic into ethical critique. But I feel this much more strongly in your writing...for instance below... > However, when he attempts to turn aesthetics to ethical critique, > he is not so much generalizing as condemning an essential aspect of > existence: the rhythm of repetition that, one comes to realise, > touches our > world .. the sun up, the sun down .. we dance, we drink, we sleep, we > make > love .. Adorno's lack of understanding of rhythm-- no, scratch that -- > that > he can't FEEL rhythm worries the shit out of me .. how did Adorno make > love > without rhythm? How did he dance in bed? How did he see the sun > everyday? In your schema here its almost like you are denying the very personhood of someone if they don't share your very reductive understanding of "rhythm." --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Jan 21 17:21:37 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34020-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 12:21:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 21 Jan 2005 12:21:37 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 73231 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 21 Jan 2005 17:21:18 +0000 Received: (qmail 73221 invoked from network); Fri, 21 Jan 2005 17:21:18 +0000 Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 12:20:29 -0500 From: precursor <xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] [ot] minidisc recorders In-reply-to: <BE155DB6.432%xxxxx@xxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BE16A40D.4343%xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.0.6 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx on 1/20/05 7:08 AM, Sascha Bondzio at xxxxx@xxx.xxx wrote: > Am 20.01.2005 15:02 Uhr schrieb "xxxxxxx@xxx.xxx" unter <xxxxxxx@xxx.xxx>: > >> can anyone kindly suggest a minidisc player/recorder w/ a microphonejack. >> thats good for making field recordings and is under 300 dollars. >> -t > > > Hi t, > > I can not recommend Minidisc-Recorder. > I have bought recently an Archos Gmini 120. It has a WAV-recordingfunction, > produces however unfortunately small interferences. Show you that... Thats > to be recommended... > > http://www.edirol.com/products/info/r1.html > > > Greatings > Sascha > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > wow this is cool, forget md's then...what do you mean by it produces small interference's ??? --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Jan 21 17:11:17 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34019-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 12:11:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 21 Jan 2005 12:11:17 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 68395 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 21 Jan 2005 17:11:04 +0000 Received: (qmail 68385 invoked from network); Fri, 21 Jan 2005 17:11:03 +0000 Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 12:11:00 -0500 From: precursor <xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] [ot] Fwd: Lifestyles of the Rich and Heartless In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BE16A1D4.433C%xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.0.6 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx on 1/21/05 9:03 AM, Bill Ashline at xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx wrote: >> >> by Christy Harvey, Judd Legum and Jonathan Baskin >> with Nico Pitney and Mipe Okunseinde >> >> Inauguration: Lifestyles of the Rich and Heartless >> >> Due to $17 million worth of inaugural security - paid for by the city of >> Washington, D.C. - the Progress Report is unable to access its office. >> Never fear - it takes a lot more than that to keep us down. We put this >> list together for you ahead of time. Your regularly scheduled Progress >> Report returns tomorrow. >> >> A look at this week's festivities by the numbers: >> >> $40 million: >> <http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/nation/ny-uscost0118,0,4726940.story >> ?coll=ny-nation-big-pix> >> Cost of Bush inaugural ball festivities, not counting security costs. >> >> $2,000: <http://www.csmonitor.com/2005/0119/p03s01-uspo.html> Amount FDR >> spent on the inaugural in 1945...about $20,000 in today's dollars. >> >> $20,000: >> <http://www.ritzcarlton.com/hotels/washington_dc/overview/pressreleases/inaug >> ural_amenities.html> >> Cost of yellow roses purchased for inaugural festivities by D.C.'s Ritz >> Carlton. >> >> 200: >> <http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=544&u=/ap/20050114/ap_on_go_pr_wh/ >> inaugural_price_tag_3&printer=1> >> Number of Humvees outfitted with top-of-the-line armor for troops in >> Iraq that could have been purchased with the amount of money blown on >> the inauguration. >> >> $10,000: <http://www.philly.com/mld/dailynews/news/local/10678137.htm> >> Price of an inaugural package at the Fairmont Hotel, which includes a >> Beluga caviar and Dom Perignon reception, a chauffeured Rolls Royce and >> two actors posing as "faux" Secret Service agents, complete with black >> sunglasses and cufflink walkie-talkies. >> >> 400: <http://www.csmonitor.com/2005/0119/p03s01-uspo.html> Pounds of >> lobster provided for "inaugural feeding frenzy" at the exclusive >> Mandarin Oriental hotel. >> >> 3,000: <http://www.csmonitor.com/2005/0119/p03s01-uspo.html> Number of >> "Laura Bush Cowboy cookies" provided for "inaugural feeding frenzy" at >> the Mandarin hotel. >> >> $1: <http://kutv.com/topstories/topstories_story_014105652.html> Amount >> per guest President Carter spent on snacks for guests at his inaugural >> parties. To stick to a tight budget, he served pretzels, peanuts, >> crackers and cheese and had cash bars. >> >> 22 million: >> <http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=544&u=/ap/20050114/ap_on_go_pr_wh/ >> inaugural_price_tag_3&printer=1> >> Number of children in regions devastated by the tsunami who could have >> received vaccinations and preventive health care with the amount of >> money spent on the inauguration. >> >> 1,160,000: <http://www.worldonfire.ca/donations.html> Number of girls >> who could be sent to school for a year in Afghanistan with the amount of >> money lavished on the inauguration. >> >> $15,000: <http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4282216> >> The down payment to rent a fur coat paid by one gala attendee who didn't >> want the hassle of schlepping her own through the airport. >> >> $200,500: >> <http://www.usatoday.com/travel/hotels/2005-01-06-inauguration_x.htm> >> Price of a room package at D.C.'s Mandarin Oriental, including >> presidential suite, chauffeured Mercedes limo and outfits from Neiman >> Marcus. >> >> 2,500: <http://news.bostonherald.com/politics/view.bg?articleid=63696> >> Number of U.S. troops used to stand guard as President Bush takes his >> oath of office >> >> 26,000: >> <http://www.oregonlive.com/letters/oregonian/index.ssf?/base/editorial/110613 >> 9753241490.xml> >> Number of Kevlar vests for U.S. soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan that >> could be purchased for $40 million. >> >> $290: <http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4187023.stm> Bonus that could >> go to each American solider serving in Iraq, if inauguration funds were >> used for that purpose. >> >> $6.3 million: <http://www.citizen.org/pressroom/release.cfm?ID=1860> >> Amount contributed by the finance and investment industry, which works >> out to be 25 percent of all the money collected. >> >> $17 million: <http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4187023.stm> Amount of >> money the White House is forcing the cash-strapped city of Washington, >> D.C., to pony up for inauguration security. >> >> 9: <http://www.csmonitor.com/2005/0119/p03s01-uspo.html> Percentage of >> D.C. residents who voted for Bush in 2004. >> >> 66: <http://abcnews.go.com/images/Politics/972a1BushPreInaugural.pdf> >> Percentage of Americans who think this over-the-top inauguration should >> have been scaled back. >> > > that hurts!!!!...its insane to be sane in this world, aint it? --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Jan 21 16:58:49 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34018-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 11:58:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 21 Jan 2005 11:58:49 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 61418 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 21 Jan 2005 16:58:44 +0000 Received: (qmail 61404 invoked from network); Fri, 21 Jan 2005 16:58:44 +0000 Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 11:58:42 -0500 From: precursor <xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] green jeans In-reply-to: <x.x.x.x.x.xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BE169EF2.433B%xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.0.6 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx on 1/21/05 3:14 AM, chad vollrath at xxxxxx@xxx.xxx wrote: > "...unless of course it's fashionable to participate in a PC-feel-good > fashion marketing plan...e.g. last night I heard something on NPR w/r/t > Bank of America building a 'green' skyscraper in NYC" > Ha ha - I missed the discussion, but I love the idea of a green skyscraper. > Some of you may be interested in this re: current discussions. It's a > project I'm working on with Carbon Defense League. www.peoplesjeans.com > It's a fake business idea that we plan to begin pitching to investment > groups in a couple months and documenting their responses. Doing a bunch > of "focus groups" too. One request: don't forward the link. It will be a > hard sell if everyone knows it's a joke. > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > :-) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Jan 21 15:15:32 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34017-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.83]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 10:15:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 21 Jan 2005 10:15:32 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 22632 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 21 Jan 2005 15:15:28 +0000 Received: (qmail 22622 invoked from network); Fri, 21 Jan 2005 15:15:28 +0000 Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 10:15:25 -0500 From: "tobias c. van Veen" <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Re: privilege, boundaries and class In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: Microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BE1686BD.1A690%xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.4.030702.0 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > so while taking Adorno to task for his dismissal of Jazz is not > privileged or bourgeois, dismissing Adorno on the grounds that music > can be separated from the political-economic forces that shape it is. Yah, bingo. One must wrestle with Adorno. For those soundbiting the "Adorno couldn't dance" comment, it was a subtle hint -- "At the dances I was one of the most untiring and gayest. One evening a cousin of Sasha [Alexander Berkman], a young boy, took me aside. With a grave face, as if he were about to announce the death of a dear comrade, he whispered to me that it did not behoove an agitator to dance. Certainly not with such reckless abandon, anyway. It was undignified for one who was on the way to become a force in the anarchist movement. My frivolity would only hurt the Cause. I grew furious at the impudent interference of the boy. I told him to mind his own business, I was tired of having the Cause constantly thrown into my face. I did not believe that a Cause which stood for a beautiful ideal, for anarchism, for release and freedom from conventions and prejudice, should demand the denial of life and joy. I insisted that our Cause could not expect me to become a nun and that the movement should not be turned into a cloister. If it meant that, I did not want it. "I want freedom, the right to self-expression, everyboy's right to beautiful, radiant things." Anarchism meant that to me, and I would live it in spite of the whole world--prisons, persecution, everything. Yes, even in spite of the condemnation of my own comrades I would live my beautiful ideal." Emma Goldman, _Living My Life_, New York: Knopf, 1934, p. 56. If I can't dance I don't want to be part of your revolution If I can't dance I don't want to be in your revolution If I can't dance to it, it's not my revolution [np.. Adorno: http://www2.rz.hu-berlin.de/fpm/texte/adorno.htm ] "[37] Individuals of the rhythmically obedient type are mainly found among the youth--the so-called radio generation. They are most susceptible to a process of masochistic adjustment to authoritarian collectivism. The type is not restricted to any one political attitude. The adjustment to anthropophagous collectivism is found as often among left-wing political groups as among right-wing groups. Indeed, both overlap: repression and crowd mindedness overtake the followers of both trends. The psychologies tend to meet despite the surface distinctions in political attitudes." "39] This obedient type is the rhythmical type, the word "rhythmical" being used in its everyday sense. Any musical experience of this type is based upon the underlying, unabating time unit of the music--its "beat." To play rhythmically means, to these people, to play in such a way that even if pseudo-individualizations--counter-accents and other "differentiations"-occur, the relation to the ground meter is preserved. To be musical means to them to be capable of following given rhythmical patterns without being disturbed by "individualizing" aberrations, and to fit even the syncopations into the basic time units. This is the way in which their response to music immediately expresses their desire to obey. However, as the standardized meter of dance music and of marching suggests the coordinated battalions of a mechanical collectivity, obedience to this rhythm by overcoming the responding individuals leads them to conceive of themselves as agglutinized with the untold millions of the meek who must be similarly overcome. Thus do the obedient inherit the earth." --> .. if I had to choose between Goldman and Adorno, I'm down twirling with Goldman (I bet she could really shake it), while Adorno rants in the corner, or sits in concert at some oldskool new music audience/performer deal, in a chair, listening for the individual moment of revolution .. meanwhile, the dancers revolve and r/evolve .. Adorno's critique, here stripped down not to jazz but to the essence of its aesthetics, is quite simple: it equates rhythm with authoritarianism, to the "obedient type." I.e., any culture with rhythm is thus authoritarian-collective and obedient. It is a particular "type." I.e., all pan-African cultures are obviously simply obedient at their essence, to extend the argument. But so are gypsies. So are the rites of carnival, the ball, the masquerade, the drunken dance, the jive, swing, the jig.. it looks like every culture is an "obedient type." This either loses the meaning of "type" or this "type" is applied with a criteria that would have to be discerned. Whoever they are, "They are most susceptible to a process of masochistic adjustment to authoritarian collectivism." Possible redux: for Adorno, rhythm is plain wrong: it leads to everyone acting in the same way, just like how everyone dances all in the same way, right? --> Or, so we should obey Adorno, right? Afterall, he keeps repeating it. Possible thesis: it seems to me that, if we wanted to push it, Adorno's writing is the more authoritarian of the two -- like poor Alex whispering in Emma's ear as he sees her give way to Nietzschean abandon, Dionysus .. a hint of insecurity in that which moves collectively, without the great intellectual individual demarcating right from wrong in the cultural superstructure..? Dance, at least in its European sphere of meaning, is also masochistic, and masochism for Adorno is a negative value (contra Deleuze, Foucault, etc., who were all very interested in masochism as a way to delimit the body and to reconfigure control). We would need to spend some time on masochism here, Sacher-Masoch.. could Adorno not give up his impenetrable fortress of purity for a minute to give his feet a spin? Possible investigation: for Adorno, the only type of freedom is "individualization" -- an odd thing for a Marxist, but perhaps not -- one would have to spend some time picking apart how Adorno understands the Marxist concept of individuation and individuality as distinct from the capitalist pressure to "be your own person" (as a consumer--pick your iPod colour) to the individualist or atomist view of society (in capitalist economics -- the "rational agent" in ethics). Redux: the issue with Adorno isn't the "Jazz he was critiquing at the time" as an aberrance of "real Jazz from North America" but rather that he condemns rhythm over and over again. Possible thesis: Adorno as somewhat blind to the necessity of rhythm and those other kinds of rhythms to be found in life -- for what is revolution but a rhythm that turns around and around? Of course we understand why -- the torchlit Nazi gatherings, the repetition of military marches and chants -- but to equate this with dance, with festival, with carnival, with ritual and movement, is to not only negate the difference between the two but also to mistake the one for the many, the particular for the general, the actual for the virtual, the act for the law. It abstracts from Nazi use of ritual to condemn all ritual. It misrecognises collective obedience to collective embodiment _of collectivity_. To what directions, tendencies, means or ends collectivity is spun is not the essence of collectivity-itself. Possible thesis: that abstracting type leads to negation. Consider similar authoritarian arguments found in Nazi condemnation of racial types. For Adorno, there are "obedient types;" for the Nazis, there are "racial types" (who also are usually characterized as "obedient"). Possible thesis: the language of Adorno (which would have to be read in German), considered here in its implications, but also the way in which Adorno sets up "types" and the structure of his argument concerning rhythm and types in the movement of abstraction (is this a negative dialectical method? what are the implications of this method?). Drifting thoughts // Adorno is at his best when he critiques the economic systems and structures that, in his view, are the machinations of culture. His cutting tone and slicing critique are some kind of relief at the turn of the 21C... However, when he attempts to turn aesthetics to ethical critique, he is not so much generalizing as condemning an essential aspect of existence: the rhythm of repetition that, one comes to realise, touches our world .. the sun up, the sun down .. we dance, we drink, we sleep, we make love .. Adorno's lack of understanding of rhythm-- no, scratch that -- that he can't FEEL rhythm worries the shit out of me .. how did Adorno make love without rhythm? How did he dance in bed? How did he see the sun everyday? How did he write sans the rhythm, the very ritual, the discipline and masochism required to write over and over again? Hell .. I wouldn't want to be part of any alternative political arrangement where I couldn't dance and swing .. and spin .. the authoritarian USSR shut down discos ... in a relentless and violent fashion .. as did our "democracies" contra rave culture, etc. -- any movement of collective gathering threatens any hegemonic theory of power -- this is perhaps too naïve -- we need to read Graham St. John.. Repeat, over and over. tV --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Jan 22 14:27:00 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34031-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.109]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 09:27:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 22 Jan 2005 09:27:00 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 91715 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 22 Jan 2005 14:26:56 +0000 Received: (qmail 91705 invoked from network); Sat, 22 Jan 2005 14:26:56 +0000 Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 15:26:00 +0100 From: Sascha Bondzio <xxxxx@xxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] [ot] minidisc recorders In-reply-to: <BE16A40D.4343%xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BE16CF88.44B%xxxxx@xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/9.0.2509 X-Authenticated: #18191925 X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Am 21.01.2005 18:20 Uhr schrieb "precursor" unter <xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>: > on 1/20/05 7:08 AM, Sascha Bondzio at xxxxx@xxx.xxx wrote: > >> Am 20.01.2005 15:02 Uhr schrieb "xxxxxxx@xxx.xxx" unter <xxxxxxx@xxx.xxx>: >> >>> can anyone kindly suggest a minidisc player/recorder w/ a microphonejack. >>> thats good for making field recordings and is under 300 dollars. >>> -t >> >> >> Hi t, >> >> I can not recommend Minidisc-Recorder. >> I have bought recently an Archos Gmini 120. It has a WAV-recordingfunction, >> produces however unfortunately small interferences. Show you that... Thats >> to be recommended... >> >> http://www.edirol.com/products/info/r1.html >> >> >> Greatings >> Sascha >> >> >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> website: http://www.microsound.org >> > > wow this is cool, forget md's then...what do you mean by it produces small > interference's ??? Hi! If you´re recording silent fields e.g. ticks of a clock, whispering, marimba or so, you hear afterwards on your recording on the right channel a periodical noise. It is always then, if the Buffer is full and the data are written on the disk. That´s a great pity, since the quality is very good otherwise. I have connected an OKM II with an A3-Adaptor (www.soundman.de). Now the Gmini operates as a Backup-HD for recorded CF´s from the R1. The problem of MD is the ATRAC coding. Take good Headphones or Monitors - you will hear - and feel... - it. I think, MP3 at 192 and higher and/or VBR sounds much better. But if you´re interesting in very good results, you will take an DAT or the R1. Bye Sascha --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Jan 21 14:04:25 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34016-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 09:04:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 21 Jan 2005 09:04:24 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 88749 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 21 Jan 2005 14:03:55 +0000 Received: (qmail 88738 invoked from network); Fri, 21 Jan 2005 14:03:55 +0000 Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 23:03:54 +0900 From: Bill Ashline <xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] [ot] Fwd: Lifestyles of the Rich and Heartless (fwd) In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xx.xx.xxx> To: William Ashline <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx.xx>, Microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: Bill Ashline <xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=BK5YBDXMrHdoELUj+4Z/1av3ALC9fJhJLnpMl//FJqCf/zHmUIX/50JDyZUPcDkHiWD4qnKiYQDlZF312lwGNfJmsLW0rGZnwAV26juQIRihDqFb/omSm73Kl98/2+P3TzyxbsmCnD0Ze5FZp4NtdMDzF9fckHQKCjSOrD7jyfw= X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xx.xx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > >by Christy Harvey, Judd Legum and Jonathan Baskin >with Nico Pitney and Mipe Okunseinde > >Inauguration: Lifestyles of the Rich and Heartless > >Due to $17 million worth of inaugural security - paid for by the city of >Washington, D.C. - the Progress Report is unable to access its office. >Never fear - it takes a lot more than that to keep us down. We put this >list together for you ahead of time. Your regularly scheduled Progress >Report returns tomorrow. > >A look at this week's festivities by the numbers: > >$40 million: ><http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/nation/ny-uscost0118,0,4726940.story?coll=ny-nation-big-pix> >Cost of Bush inaugural ball festivities, not counting security costs. > >$2,000: <http://www.csmonitor.com/2005/0119/p03s01-uspo.html> Amount FDR >spent on the inaugural in 1945...about $20,000 in today's dollars. > >$20,000: ><http://www.ritzcarlton.com/hotels/washington_dc/overview/pressreleases/inaugural_amenities.html> >Cost of yellow roses purchased for inaugural festivities by D.C.'s Ritz >Carlton. > >200: ><http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=544&u=/ap/20050114/ap_on_go_pr_wh/inaugural_price_tag_3&printer=1> >Number of Humvees outfitted with top-of-the-line armor for troops in >Iraq that could have been purchased with the amount of money blown on >the inauguration. > >$10,000: <http://www.philly.com/mld/dailynews/news/local/10678137.htm> >Price of an inaugural package at the Fairmont Hotel, which includes a >Beluga caviar and Dom Perignon reception, a chauffeured Rolls Royce and >two actors posing as "faux" Secret Service agents, complete with black >sunglasses and cufflink walkie-talkies. > >400: <http://www.csmonitor.com/2005/0119/p03s01-uspo.html> Pounds of >lobster provided for "inaugural feeding frenzy" at the exclusive >Mandarin Oriental hotel. > >3,000: <http://www.csmonitor.com/2005/0119/p03s01-uspo.html> Number of >"Laura Bush Cowboy cookies" provided for "inaugural feeding frenzy" at >the Mandarin hotel. > >$1: <http://kutv.com/topstories/topstories_story_014105652.html> Amount >per guest President Carter spent on snacks for guests at his inaugural >parties. To stick to a tight budget, he served pretzels, peanuts, >crackers and cheese and had cash bars. > >22 million: ><http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=544&u=/ap/20050114/ap_on_go_pr_wh/inaugural_price_tag_3&printer=1> >Number of children in regions devastated by the tsunami who could have >received vaccinations and preventive health care with the amount of >money spent on the inauguration. > >1,160,000: <http://www.worldonfire.ca/donations.html> Number of girls >who could be sent to school for a year in Afghanistan with the amount of >money lavished on the inauguration. > >$15,000: <http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4282216> >The down payment to rent a fur coat paid by one gala attendee who didn't >want the hassle of schlepping her own through the airport. > >$200,500: ><http://www.usatoday.com/travel/hotels/2005-01-06-inauguration_x.htm> >Price of a room package at D.C.'s Mandarin Oriental, including >presidential suite, chauffeured Mercedes limo and outfits from Neiman >Marcus. > >2,500: <http://news.bostonherald.com/politics/view.bg?articleid=63696> >Number of U.S. troops used to stand guard as President Bush takes his >oath of office > >26,000: ><http://www.oregonlive.com/letters/oregonian/index.ssf?/base/editorial/1106139753241490.xml> >Number of Kevlar vests for U.S. soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan that >could be purchased for $40 million. > >$290: <http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4187023.stm> Bonus that could >go to each American solider serving in Iraq, if inauguration funds were >used for that purpose. > >$6.3 million: <http://www.citizen.org/pressroom/release.cfm?ID=1860> >Amount contributed by the finance and investment industry, which works >out to be 25 percent of all the money collected. > >$17 million: <http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4187023.stm> Amount of >money the White House is forcing the cash-strapped city of Washington, >D.C., to pony up for inauguration security. > >9: <http://www.csmonitor.com/2005/0119/p03s01-uspo.html> Percentage of >D.C. residents who voted for Bush in 2004. > >66: <http://abcnews.go.com/images/Politics/972a1BushPreInaugural.pdf> >Percentage of Americans who think this over-the-top inauguration should >have been scaled back. > -- "Artists tear percepts out of their perceptions, in the same way that Impressionist painters twist our perception of light by showing us their impression of it with colour instead of line, creating a percept called Impressionism. 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Fri Jan 21 09:44:23 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34013-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.83]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 04:44:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 21 Jan 2005 04:44:23 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 22001 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 21 Jan 2005 09:44:19 +0000 Received: (qmail 21973 invoked from network); Fri, 21 Jan 2005 09:44:18 +0000 Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 09:43:51 +0000 From: slow sound system <xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] slow sound system on resonance 104.4fm, tonight To: Ambient <xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>, Dorkbot London <xxxxxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx>, DorkbotLondon-Blabber <xxxxxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx>, IDM <xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>, lowercase sound <xxxxxxxxx-xxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>, foundry news <xxxx@xxxxxxx.xx>, Microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>, Wire Announcements <xxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>, xxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx, xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <018f01c4ff9d$be917a90$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_zYWsGPfadaAvwoap/ZvjuQ)" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_zYWsGPfadaAvwoap/ZvjuQ) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit SLOW SOUND SYSTEM LIE DOWN AND BE COUNTED SMALL PIECES, MIDNIGHT-1AM GMT, RESONANCE 104.4FM the 'small pieces' show runs every friday night on resonance 104.4fm. small pieces is an audio platform for the london leftfield electronica community to display its wares. tonight the slow sound system is in the chair. expect the usual selection of relaxed audio, with new / old tracks by (among others) lau nau, sebastien roux, the sighs, diego morales, pharoah sanders, chas smith, accrual, the marcia blaine school for girls, we're breaking up, kapital band 1 and the heavenly gospel singers. those in London, set your receivers to resonance 104.4fm. everyone else, go to www.resonancefm.com for live streaming audio. happy listening! slow sound system lie down and be counted xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx www.slowsound.net ----- in league w/ [no.signal] | not clickable | sonomu | highpointlowlife | midrange | frequenzen ----- ----- new! live sets archive w/motion, recon, crucial felix/timeblind, sebastien roux, adam butler/vert and more http://www.slowsound.net 'small pieces', every friday on Resonance 101.4fm, midnight-1am BST http://www.resonancefm.com 'there is no hidden meaning', out now on kabuki kore http://www.kabukikore.net ----- ----- london headphones festival 2004 http://www.state51.org/placard 'midrange sessions', forthcoming on coombe records http://www.coomberecords.com slow sound system vs. posset, 'entropy sessions' out now on kabuki kore http://www.kabukikore.net 'first steps' out now on grain of sound http://www.grainofsound.com imax photogallery : kill yr speed http://www.lomohomes.com/imax frequenzen, fortnightly on resonance 104.4fm http://www.frequenzen.co.uk sonomu : sound noise music http://www.sonomu.net highpointlowlife : guitars and laptops live happily ever after http://www.highpointlowlife.com [no.signal] : promoters of genius http://nosignal.slab.org kultureflash : headlines from london http://www.kultureflash.net sprawl club @ charterhouse http://www.sprawl.org.uk ----- no? reply to this email with 'unsubscribe' in the subject line. --Boundary_(ID_zYWsGPfadaAvwoap/ZvjuQ)-- From ???@??? Fri Jan 21 08:10:12 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34012-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.110]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 03:10:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 21 Jan 2005 03:10:12 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 99491 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 21 Jan 2005 08:10:11 +0000 Received: (qmail 99480 invoked from network); Fri, 21 Jan 2005 08:10:11 +0000 Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 03:14:55 -0500 From: chad vollrath <xxxxxx@xxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] green jeans X-Sender: xxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxx (Unverified) To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <x.x.x.x.x.xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx "...unless of course it's fashionable to participate in a PC-feel-good fashion marketing plan...e.g. last night I heard something on NPR w/r/t Bank of America building a 'green' skyscraper in NYC" Ha ha - I missed the discussion, but I love the idea of a green skyscraper. Some of you may be interested in this re: current discussions. It's a project I'm working on with Carbon Defense League. www.peoplesjeans.com It's a fake business idea that we plan to begin pitching to investment groups in a couple months and documenting their responses. Doing a bunch of "focus groups" too. One request: don't forward the link. It will be a hard sell if everyone knows it's a joke. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Jan 21 04:29:58 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34011-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 20 Jan 2005 23:29:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 20 Jan 2005 23:29:58 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 31711 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 21 Jan 2005 04:29:57 +0000 Received: (qmail 31700 invoked from network); Fri, 21 Jan 2005 04:29:57 +0000 Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 20:29:50 -0800 From: Kim Cascone <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Re: privilege, boundaries and class To: microsound_list <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Loop-Detect: 1 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > I guess my confusion resulted and still resides in not understanding > how taking Adorno to task for his dismissal of jazz in 'the jazz > quote' is privileged or bourgeois. Maybe its my insistence of > focusing solely on the music that makes it that way. As I stated > earlier, I don't really have a complaint about Adorno on the whole, as > I've not read enough of him to muster a complaint. it is hard for most americans to read Marxist philosophy because a) the 'real' left has no coherent presence or voice in the US; the result being a lack of 'leftist culture', b) the US mindset: soviet styled communism 'failed' which delegated the US system of democracy as the 'winner' - result: Marx has been reduced to being a quaint and problematic philosopher who is no longer valid and c) Marxism as a cultural critique has been paved over by young fashionistas spouting po-mo Sokal-like rants...as a result it is difficult to casually take Adorno to task without placing the discourse in the broader context of Marxist cultural criticism... Adorno was a great thinker but he drew from many other wonderful Marxist thinkers around him (e.g. the Frankfurt School) and before him (like Newton, he stood on the shoulders of giants)...so his opinions about Jazz were most likely not unique to him but might have been typical of someone of his political background and exposure (as Tad pointed out) to what 'Jazz' consisted of in Germany circa 1940's... since most Marxist critique looks at the politcal-economic context in which a particular set of events takes place culture can not be analyzed/critiqued in a vacuum isolated from the forces that shape it and bring it into our lives...trying to bracket music off into a corner by itself serves no-one except music journalists trying to be 'on the tip' and people needing their music reviews reduced to clever soundbites...while we can (and do) pretend that music is separate from political-economic forces, the truth is that it isn't... so while taking Adorno to task for his dismissal of Jazz is not privileged or bourgeois, dismissing Adorno on the grounds that music can be separated from the political-economic forces that shape it is. for a broad introduction to Adorno you might want to check out a collection of his essays titled: "Prisms" http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0262510251/ref=lpr_g_2/ 103-2427804-5497424?v=glance&s=books there is a used copy or two through Amazon for around $10.00 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Jan 21 01:45:22 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34010-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.112]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 20 Jan 2005 20:45:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 20 Jan 2005 20:45:22 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 54080 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 21 Jan 2005 01:45:21 +0000 Received: (qmail 54070 invoked from network); Fri, 21 Jan 2005 01:45:20 +0000 Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 20:45:11 -0500 (EST) From: xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx Subject: [microsound] apologies for last thread X-Sender: xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: PHP Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: ID = fdd4796dd84a3368810ccfb1492b26c4 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx duhh should have been off list....pressed the wrong button..sorry! _______________________________________________ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Jan 21 01:44:21 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34009-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 20 Jan 2005 20:44:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 20 Jan 2005 20:44:20 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 53014 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 21 Jan 2005 01:44:15 +0000 Received: (qmail 53004 invoked from network); Fri, 21 Jan 2005 01:44:15 +0000 Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 20:44:06 -0500 (EST) From: xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx Subject: Re: [microsound] [ot] minidisc recorders X-Sender: xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: PHP Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: ID = fdd4796dd84a3368810ccfb1492b26c4 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx just read a thread about your minidisc being up for sale? it is still available?... let me know Carlos _______________________________________________ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Jan 21 01:34:09 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34008-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.110]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 20 Jan 2005 20:34:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 20 Jan 2005 20:34:09 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 47200 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 21 Jan 2005 01:34:06 +0000 Received: (qmail 47190 invoked from network); Fri, 21 Jan 2005 01:34:05 +0000 Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 17:34:01 -0800 (PST) From: Aaron Ximm <xxxxx@xxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] [ot] minidisc recorders In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@x.xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx@xxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-WELL-Auth: Yes X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.80/674/Tue Jan 18 12:27:28 2005 clamav-milter version 0.80j on smtp.well.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@x.xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Just to clarify Scott's comments: > I got one a year ago or more for under $200. You'll still have to > transfer to a computer the old fashioned analog way, but there are > really no other options. Last I heard, it was still impossible to > download recorded tracks from minidisc digitally... thank you Sony & With a component deck like my 1998-model Sony JB920 you can do realtime digital transfers over SPDIF. No analog stage in this, but you do get the decoded 16/44 stream, not the original ATRAC. I've been doing this since 98. Only downside it's realtime, you must have SPDIF/optical ins on your soundcard, and you must "record" the incoming file with audio software. There ARE custom solutions that rip the ATRAC to your PC for software decompression, I have such a system but it's rickety and obsolete. HiMD would be better in every regard. The new HiMD *does* allow (as I wrote in a previous mail) uploading of recordings via USB, which can end up as non-DRM .WAV files on your PC, with no analog stage. Since it's USB 1 though apparently the speed advantage over realtime when transferring uncompressed 16/44 recordings (which HiMD allows) is minimal... :/ best, aaron xxxxx@xxxx.xxx http://www.quietamerican.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Jan 21 00:31:57 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34007-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 20 Jan 2005 19:31:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 20 Jan 2005 19:31:57 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 25775 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 21 Jan 2005 00:31:54 +0000 Received: (qmail 25765 invoked from network); Fri, 21 Jan 2005 00:31:53 +0000 Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 16:31:47 -0800 (PST) From: Aaron Ximm <xxxxx@xxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] [ot] minidisc recorders In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@x-x.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.x@xxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-WELL-Auth: Yes X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.80/674/Tue Jan 18 12:27:28 2005 clamav-milter version 0.80j on smtp.well.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> <007701c4ff19$749b8130$xxxxxxxx@xxxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@x-x.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Subjective comments below... I agree with most of Derek's points btw re: connectors, A/D, etc. Derek wrote: > 2) No digital outs. This means the DA converter of the MD, and then the Just to clarify Derek's later comments, the new HiMD decks can transfer digitally at higher than realtime -- with the limitation that as he says, you must use their Windows application to do it. Once uploaded, a second trivial step is necessary to convert uploaded recordings to non-DRM .WAV files. Both compressed and un-compressed recordings can be uploaded this way. Sony's own software does not allow you to "unlock" recordings made through portables' optical digital inputs. However, an enterprising MD fan has made a convertor utility themselves which WILL unlock recordings made through the digital ins. QED you can use a high-quality pre/AD box like a Zerofire or maybe the Core Sound Mic2496, send the signal via optical in to the HiMD portable, record uncompressed PCM 16/44 and then upload it and decode to WAV on your PC. Not QUITE as useful as a drag-and-drop CF/HD recorder with no limitations, but my number one reason for still using MD is that my original MDs are my permanent reliable archival medium of everything that I record. I never have to burn CDs/DVDs, remember to back up, etc... (My other reasons are battery consumption and size). > 3) No digital ins [at least on newer models, my old MZ-R35 had an Many don't but many actually do, check the equipment browser at minidisc.org for a model-by-model breakdown. > Getting a recordable MP3 player [like the some of the IRiver models] is > an option, but your still stuck with many problems, namely compressed iRiver recorders have now stopped supporting uncompressed recording; the most likely reason is they have never been able to get the uncompressed recording feature on their last generation of recorders working correctly. It notoriously drops hundreds of samples regularly if unpredictably (presumably it can't keep up with the data stream)... But despite all these fits and starts it's a golden era for portable quality recording. FWIW I still regularly record with/perform with a set of 5+ year old Sony MZ-R50's and MZ-R37's purchased on eBay for an average price of $60 each. The MZ-R50 in particular is a TANK with a great interface, dedicated line out, optical in, etc. Downsides are that it's big and uses proprietary rechargeables internally (though it can run off AAs with a screw-on case). best, aaron xxxxx@xxxx.xxx http://www.quietamerican.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Jan 20 23:10:04 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34006-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 20 Jan 2005 18:10:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 20 Jan 2005 18:10:04 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 98883 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 20 Jan 2005 23:10:01 +0000 Received: (qmail 98872 invoked from network); Thu, 20 Jan 2005 23:10:00 +0000 Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 18:11:00 -0500 From: Joe Milutis <xxxxxxx@xxx.xx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] [ot] minidisc recorders In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BE15A4B4.827F%xxxxxxx@xxx.xx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.0.2006 X-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-SpamCheck: X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Portable CD recorders from marantz, and I think the other portable Cd recorders I looked into, weren't really portable. That is, even though they look portable, their suggested use was for studio (something to do with no guarantees that the jostling wouldn't disrupt the recording, but the only thing I clearly remember now is that they were not good in the field. ) However, I use both the portable minidisc marantz (now phased out) and the portable solid state marantz, and am pleased with both. J On 1/20/05 2:12 PM, "mandra (chris)" <xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote: > what about portable CD recorders - like the Marantz? > On Jan 20, 2005, at 2:00 PM, derek holzer wrote: > >> I used a Sony MZ-R35 for years. It's from about 1999, back when they >> built things a bit more sturdy, and it has yet to fail me. I'd be a >> little nervous about the newer make MDs, which get closer and closer >> to the size of a credit card and generally don't look nearly so >> robust. I also really liked the "jog-wheel" function. See here: >> >> http://www.minidisc.org/part_Sony_MZ-R35.html >> >> In general, however, the things I disliked about Minidiscs were this: >> >> 1) Bad AD converters, very noisy!!! Consumer grade stuff will always >> be like this. I tend to record *very* tiny sounds, and every dB of >> noise floor I can remove counts. >> >> 2) No digital outs. This means the DA converter of the MD, and then >> the AD converter of whatever you are capturing with, add up even more >> noise. You could get a full-sized MD deck for the digital out, but >> that doesn't really help you "in the field" if you need to capture and >> edit something right away. >> >> 3) No professional connections. This means balanced, XLR microphone >> connections. Ask any audio technician, and they will probably tell you >> that the mismatched impedence between a pro mike and the >> consumer-grade input probably adds more noise than all the other >> factors combined! >> >> 3) No digital ins [at least on newer models, my old MZ-R35 had an >> optical line in]. This I suppose is some Digital Rights Manipulation >> scheme, to keep clean copies of CDs from making their way between MD >> players. But it's a pain if you want to bypass the crappy MD mike >> inputs and AD converters with an aftermarket preamp/AD unit. The only >> consolation is that you can use an external preamp and then the line >> input, allowing the use of balanced XLRs [if you have such a preamp], >> but the transfer to the MD is still analog. >> >> OTOH, the ATRAC compression never bothered me too much. But for the >> lack of professional mike inputs, I might even consider the new HiMD >> format except that the software to extract the audio is proprietary >> Sony stuff, and I'm just not down with that. Use an open standard and >> you'll get my attention and hard-earned cash. >> >> I would recommend to get a portable DAT from EBay, but as most people >> know, this standard is going to be quite dead soon enough, as nobody >> makes parts or tapes any more. A Sony TR-[something] usually goes for >> between USD 300 and 500, and I am still using just such a model. >> Inputs aren't great, but it has full digital IO which is something I >> really needed. I could record something and then immediately offload >> it digitally to my laptop and get to work on it. >> >> My honest advice would be to save your pennies a little longer and go >> for one of the new hard-disk based recorders. They usually have much >> better inputs and AD converters [although maybe not with XLR inputs], >> can do 24/96 [usually] and most importantly are fully digital IO >> compatible, so you can use whatever preamp/AD you want, so can easily >> offload to your computer with no sound quality loss or stupid >> proprietary formats. >> >> The R1 Editrol looks like a nice starter unit, and goes for +/- USD >> 500: >> >> http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/R1Edirol/ >> >> Getting a recordable MP3 player [like the some of the IRiver models] >> is an option, but your still stuck with many problems, namely >> compressed audio format and crappy consumer-grade inputs. In general, >> there seems to be a huge conspiricy on the part of hardware >> manufacturers to keep decent-quality sound recording *out* of the >> hands of the masses... >> >> Good luck, >> d. >> >> -- >> derek holzer ::: http://www.umatic.nl >> ---Oblique Strategy # 36: >> "Consult other sources >> -promising >> -unpromising" >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> website: http://www.microsound.org >> >> > mandra > c:410.258.5281 > h:301 772 7376 > > realtime experimentalist / guitarist for Telesma > creator of "the manDrum" > ...jamming the mainstream in the zips > http://defDumbAndBass.com > http://telesma23.com > http://skywheel.com > > Come to my very happening *happening* > the defDumbAndBass fREAKoUT! > happening the 3rd Sunday of EVERY month > @ the Royal - 1542 Light Street, Baltimore, MD > watch, listen, dance, relax and explore the "known unknowns" > > AND check out "e+@13" - a new show the first Thursday of every month at > the 13th Floor in Baltimore highlighting live aspects of electronic > music. > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? 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Thu Jan 20 20:55:55 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34004-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.82]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 20 Jan 2005 15:55:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 20 Jan 2005 15:55:55 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 31078 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 20 Jan 2005 20:55:46 +0000 Received: (qmail 31011 invoked from network); Thu, 20 Jan 2005 20:55:46 +0000 Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 12:55:43 -0800 (PST) From: smr242 <xxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] audi In-reply-to: <xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_AgeN7/MIoO/6kPP9w8yI4g)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=ImCNCB78+FdvJJEznBej3bZz7SdkffGZJU5yP2g130fQgRXWqcqUbyX+bhWmNdGDMBC6XgTjmcWglnHMnR8OE8z4s34mOYCq6kmDo1A8IC3CngiXEJu1Q9sqKwwXKhgj75FU8LpRVgoMnyxHVwwM/J9TCT+E7DALwq/ddmsuWL0= ; X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_AgeN7/MIoO/6kPP9w8yI4g) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit according to the site http://www.whatsthattune.co.uk it is: Company: Audi Product: A6 Artist: Tankerville - Entangled Year: 2004 Description: Advert for Audi A6 sarah-michelle geller <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote: does anyone know the name and the author of the music on the new audi advert in the UK in which a black car slowly explodes into letters which float down a city street, some of which form the words 'versprung', 'durch' and 'technik'? 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Thu Jan 20 20:55:31 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34003-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.113]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 20 Jan 2005 15:55:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 20 Jan 2005 15:55:31 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 29963 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 20 Jan 2005 20:55:27 +0000 Received: (qmail 29951 invoked from network); Thu, 20 Jan 2005 20:55:27 +0000 Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 21:51:32 +0100 From: th_ost <xxxxxx@xxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] [ot] minidisc recorders To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <002501c4ff31$d2ea3020$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_KTKBgK1ULZaN3kLKzrlAaQ)" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Authenticated: #3048294 X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@x-x.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_KTKBgK1ULZaN3kLKzrlAaQ) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit ----- Original Message ----- From: derek holzer >I hope I'm not the only person who finds this important... i had to find out the "hard way"...:(( thost °°° th_ost: tomoroh hidari_oliver stummer acronymic symbiosis of alter & ego http://www.tomoroh.com/ http://www.stiege44.com/ xxxxxx@xxx.xxx ay, sigue:56825202 >> we gonna fight for your right to apathy... << °°°°° --Boundary_(ID_KTKBgK1ULZaN3kLKzrlAaQ)-- From ???@??? Thu Jan 20 20:24:08 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34002-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.111]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 20 Jan 2005 15:24:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 20 Jan 2005 15:24:08 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 15918 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 20 Jan 2005 20:24:04 +0000 Received: (qmail 15907 invoked from network); Thu, 20 Jan 2005 20:24:03 +0000 Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 15:23:59 -0500 (EST) From: xxxxxxx@xxx.xxx Subject: Re: [microsound] audi To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xx.xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 8.0 for Windows sub 670 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_ZlRnPxzOkuTkt9oemq+OGw)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_ZlRnPxzOkuTkt9oemq+OGw) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 20/01/2005 18:20:31 GMT Standard Time, xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx writes: > does anyone know the name and the author of the music on the new audi > advert > in the UK in which a black car slowly explodes into letters which float down > > a city street, some of which form the words 'versprung', 'durch' and > 'technik'? (i apologise for my bad german) > > dunno, but it was directed by a french duo apparently, you can view the ad, with music, on the audi uk website, but I couldn't find any credits... "He who has rejected his demons badgers us to death with his angels" Henri Michaux --Boundary_(ID_ZlRnPxzOkuTkt9oemq+OGw)-- From ???@??? Thu Jan 20 19:40:15 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34001-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 20 Jan 2005 14:40:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 20 Jan 2005 14:40:15 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 97632 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 20 Jan 2005 19:40:13 +0000 Received: (qmail 97622 invoked from network); Thu, 20 Jan 2005 19:40:12 +0000 Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 14:39:10 -0500 From: precursor <xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] [ot] minidisc recorders In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@x-x.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BE15730E.4313%xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.0.6 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx on 1/20/05 2:00 PM, derek holzer at xxxxx@x-x.xxx wrote: > I used a Sony MZ-R35 for years. It's from about 1999, back when they > built things a bit more sturdy, and it has yet to fail me. I'd be a > little nervous about the newer make MDs, which get closer and closer to > the size of a credit card and generally don't look nearly so robust. I > also really liked the "jog-wheel" function. See here: > > http://www.minidisc.org/part_Sony_MZ-R35.html > > In general, however, the things I disliked about Minidiscs were this: > > 1) Bad AD converters, very noisy!!! Consumer grade stuff will always be > like this. I tend to record *very* tiny sounds, and every dB of noise > floor I can remove counts. i would recommend than getting a sony mic such as a ECM-MC907 , this mic sounds amazing with sony's md's, low noise, wide imaging. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Jan 20 19:36:30 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34000-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.109]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 20 Jan 2005 14:36:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 20 Jan 2005 14:36:30 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 96015 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 20 Jan 2005 19:36:27 +0000 Received: (qmail 96004 invoked from network); Thu, 20 Jan 2005 19:36:27 +0000 Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 20:37:56 +0100 From: derek holzer <xxxxx@x-x.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] [ot] minidisc recorders In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@x-x.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-Accept-Language: en Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041206) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mika Martini wrote: > "Last I heard, it was still impossible to download recorded tracks from minidisc digitally..." > > ¿this is true??? even in the Sony Hi-MD MZ-NH700 ?? Like I just wrote, you can transfer digitally from a full-sized deck, but not from a portable. Doesn't help you much "in the field". The HiMD is a nice idea, but it uses a proprietary system to do it. That means you are trapped with *their* software to do your transfers. Nobody else can write a different utility to do the trick. So if you have an unsupported OS [like Linux, maybe also Mac OS9, for example] or you want a feature that doesn't exist [maybe you'd like to "gate" the input so you don't record silence, or whatever...] it cannot be done. I hope I'm not the only person who finds this important... d. -- derek holzer ::: http://www.umatic.nl ---Oblique Strategy # 36: "Consult other sources -promising -unpromising" --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Jan 20 19:36:00 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33999-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.114]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 20 Jan 2005 14:36:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 20 Jan 2005 14:36:00 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 94575 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 20 Jan 2005 19:35:56 +0000 Received: (qmail 94558 invoked from network); Thu, 20 Jan 2005 19:35:55 +0000 Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 20:36:19 +0100 From: derek holzer <xxxxx@x-x.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] [ot] minidisc recorders In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@x-x.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-Accept-Language: en Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041206) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mika Martini wrote: > "Last I heard, it was still impossible to download recorded tracks from minidisc digitally..." > > ¿this is true??? even in the Sony Hi-MD MZ-NH700 ?? Like I just wrote, you can transfer digitally from a full-sized deck, but not from a portable. Doesn't help you much "in the field". The HiMD is a nice idea, but it uses a proprietary system to do it. That means you are trapped with *their* software to do your transfers. Nobody else can write a different utility to do the trick. So if you have an unsupported OS [like Linux] or you want a feature that doesn't exist [maybe you'd like to "gate" the input so you don't record silence, or whatever...] it cannot be done. I hope I'm not the only person who finds this important... d. -- derek holzer ::: http://www.umatic.nl ---Oblique Strategy # 36: "Consult other sources -promising -unpromising" --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Jan 20 19:11:52 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33998-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.113]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 20 Jan 2005 14:11:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 20 Jan 2005 14:11:52 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 77933 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 20 Jan 2005 19:11:49 +0000 Received: (qmail 77922 invoked from network); Thu, 20 Jan 2005 19:11:49 +0000 Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 14:12:36 -0500 From: mandra <xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> (chris) Subject: Re: [microsound] [ot] minidisc recorders In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@x-x.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> <007701c4ff19$749b8130$xxxxxxxx@xxxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@x-x.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx what about portable CD recorders - like the Marantz? On Jan 20, 2005, at 2:00 PM, derek holzer wrote: > I used a Sony MZ-R35 for years. It's from about 1999, back when they > built things a bit more sturdy, and it has yet to fail me. I'd be a > little nervous about the newer make MDs, which get closer and closer > to the size of a credit card and generally don't look nearly so > robust. I also really liked the "jog-wheel" function. See here: > > http://www.minidisc.org/part_Sony_MZ-R35.html > > In general, however, the things I disliked about Minidiscs were this: > > 1) Bad AD converters, very noisy!!! Consumer grade stuff will always > be like this. I tend to record *very* tiny sounds, and every dB of > noise floor I can remove counts. > > 2) No digital outs. This means the DA converter of the MD, and then > the AD converter of whatever you are capturing with, add up even more > noise. You could get a full-sized MD deck for the digital out, but > that doesn't really help you "in the field" if you need to capture and > edit something right away. > > 3) No professional connections. This means balanced, XLR microphone > connections. Ask any audio technician, and they will probably tell you > that the mismatched impedence between a pro mike and the > consumer-grade input probably adds more noise than all the other > factors combined! > > 3) No digital ins [at least on newer models, my old MZ-R35 had an > optical line in]. This I suppose is some Digital Rights Manipulation > scheme, to keep clean copies of CDs from making their way between MD > players. But it's a pain if you want to bypass the crappy MD mike > inputs and AD converters with an aftermarket preamp/AD unit. The only > consolation is that you can use an external preamp and then the line > input, allowing the use of balanced XLRs [if you have such a preamp], > but the transfer to the MD is still analog. > > OTOH, the ATRAC compression never bothered me too much. But for the > lack of professional mike inputs, I might even consider the new HiMD > format except that the software to extract the audio is proprietary > Sony stuff, and I'm just not down with that. Use an open standard and > you'll get my attention and hard-earned cash. > > I would recommend to get a portable DAT from EBay, but as most people > know, this standard is going to be quite dead soon enough, as nobody > makes parts or tapes any more. A Sony TR-[something] usually goes for > between USD 300 and 500, and I am still using just such a model. > Inputs aren't great, but it has full digital IO which is something I > really needed. I could record something and then immediately offload > it digitally to my laptop and get to work on it. > > My honest advice would be to save your pennies a little longer and go > for one of the new hard-disk based recorders. They usually have much > better inputs and AD converters [although maybe not with XLR inputs], > can do 24/96 [usually] and most importantly are fully digital IO > compatible, so you can use whatever preamp/AD you want, so can easily > offload to your computer with no sound quality loss or stupid > proprietary formats. > > The R1 Editrol looks like a nice starter unit, and goes for +/- USD > 500: > > http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/R1Edirol/ > > Getting a recordable MP3 player [like the some of the IRiver models] > is an option, but your still stuck with many problems, namely > compressed audio format and crappy consumer-grade inputs. In general, > there seems to be a huge conspiricy on the part of hardware > manufacturers to keep decent-quality sound recording *out* of the > hands of the masses... > > Good luck, > d. > > -- > derek holzer ::: http://www.umatic.nl > ---Oblique Strategy # 36: > "Consult other sources > -promising > -unpromising" > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > mandra c:410.258.5281 h:301 772 7376 realtime experimentalist / guitarist for Telesma creator of "the manDrum" ....jamming the mainstream in the zips http://defDumbAndBass.com http://telesma23.com http://skywheel.com Come to my very happening *happening* the defDumbAndBass fREAKoUT! happening the 3rd Sunday of EVERY month @ the Royal - 1542 Light Street, Baltimore, MD watch, listen, dance, relax and explore the "known unknowns" AND check out "e+@13" - a new show the first Thursday of every month at the 13th Floor in Baltimore highlighting live aspects of electronic music. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Jan 20 19:05:18 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33997-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 20 Jan 2005 14:05:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 20 Jan 2005 14:05:17 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 74001 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 20 Jan 2005 19:05:15 +0000 Received: (qmail 73989 invoked from network); Thu, 20 Jan 2005 19:05:15 +0000 Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 13:05:12 -0600 (CST) From: Mika Martini <xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] [ot] minidisc recorders In-reply-to: <xxxxx.xxx.xxx.xxx.x.xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx.xxx.x> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_1LggCTNviqXnqHgWagrWhg)" Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=mMPJFg5Wz/IunP0ANzVBiRz4K+cM9EW5y64YjOrJArzLarDZRm65CASzFeH1FMdJ/tM3+Tky6AEhTzfr4irZuCiKktXMD87ar92+nL+DkPkljmqbNIakpenhgg4FH6OG1tHnxVRlHuBna2EfZaOS6awZmrxXtHGZd7zFqqArSxs= ; X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_1LggCTNviqXnqHgWagrWhg) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit "Last I heard, it was still impossible to download recorded tracks from minidisc digitally..." ¿this is true??? even in the Sony Hi-MD MZ-NH700 ?? Mika. xxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx wrote: http://www.minidisco.com is a very good source. /sean > The Sharp MT190 definitely rocks. They can be a bit tough to find, but > I got one a year ago or more for under $200. You'll still have to > transfer to a computer the old fashioned analog way, but there are > really no other options. Last I heard, it was still impossible to > download recorded tracks from minidisc digitally... thank you Sony & > co. > > http://minidisc.org/equipment_browser.html is a good resource, btw. > > - Scott Carver > > On Jan 20, 2005, at 6:02 AM, xxxxxxx@xxx.xxx wrote: > >> can anyone kindly suggest a minidisc player/recorder w/ a >> microphonejack. thats good for making field recordings and is under >> 300 dollars. >> -t > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org ------------------------------------------- [M!M] [SCL] [www.mikamartini.scd.cl] --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Todo lo que quieres saber de Estados Unidos, América Latina y el resto del Mundo. Visíta Yahoo! Noticias. --Boundary_(ID_1LggCTNviqXnqHgWagrWhg)-- From ???@??? Thu Jan 20 18:58:44 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33996-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.113]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 20 Jan 2005 13:58:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 20 Jan 2005 13:58:44 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 70908 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 20 Jan 2005 18:58:36 +0000 Received: (qmail 70898 invoked from network); Thu, 20 Jan 2005 18:58:35 +0000 Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 20:00:02 +0100 From: derek holzer <xxxxx@x-x.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] [ot] minidisc recorders In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@x-x.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041206) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> <007701c4ff19$749b8130$xxxxxxxx@xxxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx I used a Sony MZ-R35 for years. It's from about 1999, back when they built things a bit more sturdy, and it has yet to fail me. I'd be a little nervous about the newer make MDs, which get closer and closer to the size of a credit card and generally don't look nearly so robust. I also really liked the "jog-wheel" function. See here: http://www.minidisc.org/part_Sony_MZ-R35.html In general, however, the things I disliked about Minidiscs were this: 1) Bad AD converters, very noisy!!! Consumer grade stuff will always be like this. I tend to record *very* tiny sounds, and every dB of noise floor I can remove counts. 2) No digital outs. This means the DA converter of the MD, and then the AD converter of whatever you are capturing with, add up even more noise. You could get a full-sized MD deck for the digital out, but that doesn't really help you "in the field" if you need to capture and edit something right away. 3) No professional connections. This means balanced, XLR microphone connections. Ask any audio technician, and they will probably tell you that the mismatched impedence between a pro mike and the consumer-grade input probably adds more noise than all the other factors combined! 3) No digital ins [at least on newer models, my old MZ-R35 had an optical line in]. This I suppose is some Digital Rights Manipulation scheme, to keep clean copies of CDs from making their way between MD players. But it's a pain if you want to bypass the crappy MD mike inputs and AD converters with an aftermarket preamp/AD unit. The only consolation is that you can use an external preamp and then the line input, allowing the use of balanced XLRs [if you have such a preamp], but the transfer to the MD is still analog. OTOH, the ATRAC compression never bothered me too much. But for the lack of professional mike inputs, I might even consider the new HiMD format except that the software to extract the audio is proprietary Sony stuff, and I'm just not down with that. Use an open standard and you'll get my attention and hard-earned cash. I would recommend to get a portable DAT from EBay, but as most people know, this standard is going to be quite dead soon enough, as nobody makes parts or tapes any more. A Sony TR-[something] usually goes for between USD 300 and 500, and I am still using just such a model. Inputs aren't great, but it has full digital IO which is something I really needed. I could record something and then immediately offload it digitally to my laptop and get to work on it. My honest advice would be to save your pennies a little longer and go for one of the new hard-disk based recorders. They usually have much better inputs and AD converters [although maybe not with XLR inputs], can do 24/96 [usually] and most importantly are fully digital IO compatible, so you can use whatever preamp/AD you want, so can easily offload to your computer with no sound quality loss or stupid proprietary formats. The R1 Editrol looks like a nice starter unit, and goes for +/- USD 500: http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/R1Edirol/ Getting a recordable MP3 player [like the some of the IRiver models] is an option, but your still stuck with many problems, namely compressed audio format and crappy consumer-grade inputs. In general, there seems to be a huge conspiricy on the part of hardware manufacturers to keep decent-quality sound recording *out* of the hands of the masses... Good luck, d. -- derek holzer ::: http://www.umatic.nl ---Oblique Strategy # 36: "Consult other sources -promising -unpromising" --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Jan 20 18:56:01 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33995-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 20 Jan 2005 13:56:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 20 Jan 2005 13:56:01 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 66883 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 20 Jan 2005 18:55:53 +0000 Received: (qmail 66870 invoked from network); Thu, 20 Jan 2005 18:55:53 +0000 Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 13:55:18 -0500 From: precursor <xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] [ot] minidisc recorders In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BE1568C6.4309%xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.0.6 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx on 1/20/05 9:02 AM, xxxxxxx@xxx.xxx at xxxxxxx@xxx.xxx wrote: > can anyone kindly suggest a minidisc player/recorder w/ a microphonejack. > thats good for making field recordings and is under 300 dollars. > -t > sony mz-r55, along with a sony ecm-ms907 mic and your set...this disk recorder is a little bit old, but is made well compared to the latest ones which im afraid would break from a simple drop. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Jan 20 18:50:38 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33994-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 20 Jan 2005 13:50:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 20 Jan 2005 13:50:38 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 62108 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 20 Jan 2005 18:50:31 +0000 Received: (qmail 62073 invoked from network); Thu, 20 Jan 2005 18:50:31 +0000 Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 13:50:23 -0500 From: Adam Young <xxxx_xxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] Greetings In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BE15679F.3202%xxxx_xxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.1.2418 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Just wanted to say hello to everyone, I'm new to the list. Name's Adam Young, I am 1/2 of the minimal techno outfit "Tractile" and produce experiemental ambient material under the name "Direwires". I'm from Southern Ontario in Canada. Tractile will be releasing records soon, Direwires material has no official plans currently and I've been really trying to find a home for it lately. Folks with labels and people familiar with labels - maybe you could help me find an appropriate placement? This list looks great. Can't wait to contribute to the microsound projects if there are any in the future. -adam www.tractile.net | www.direwires.com | www.yearofthemachine.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Jan 20 18:39:51 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33993-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.110]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 20 Jan 2005 13:39:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 20 Jan 2005 13:39:51 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 55548 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 20 Jan 2005 18:39:42 +0000 Received: (qmail 55538 invoked from network); Thu, 20 Jan 2005 18:39:41 +0000 Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 13:39:33 -0500 From: Adam Young <xxxx_xxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] Greetings In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BE156515.31FE%xxxx_xxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.1.2418 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Just wanted to say hello to everyone, I'm new to the list. Name's Adam Young, I am 1/2 of the minimal techno outfit "Tractile" and produce experiemental ambient material under the name "Direwires". I'm from Southern Ontario in Canada. Tractile will be releasing records soon, Direwires material has no official plans currently and I've been really trying to find a home for it lately. Folks with labels and people familiar with labels - maybe you could help me find an appropriate placement? This list looks great. Can't wait to contribute to the microsound projects if there are any in the future. -adam www.tractile.net | www.direwires.com | www.yearofthemachine.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Jan 20 18:20:13 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33992-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 20 Jan 2005 13:20:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 20 Jan 2005 13:20:13 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 45802 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 20 Jan 2005 18:20:07 +0000 Received: (qmail 45788 invoked from network); Thu, 20 Jan 2005 18:20:05 +0000 Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 21:19:11 +0300 From: sarah-michelle geller <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] audi In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xx-xxxxxxxxxx> X-Originating-IP: [80.225.51.190] X-Sender: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Bcc: Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Originating-Email: [xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Jan 2005 18:20:01.0982 (UTC) FILETIME=[A83AF5E0:01C4FF1C] does anyone know the name and the author of the music on the new audi advert in the UK in which a black car slowly explodes into letters which float down a city street, some of which form the words 'versprung', 'durch' and 'technik'? 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Thu Jan 20 18:10:56 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33991-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 20 Jan 2005 13:10:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 20 Jan 2005 13:10:56 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 40319 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 20 Jan 2005 18:10:43 +0000 Received: (qmail 40307 invoked from network); Thu, 20 Jan 2005 18:10:42 +0000 Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 13:11:32 -0500 From: mandra <xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> (chris) Subject: Re: [microsound] [ot] minidisc recorders In-reply-to: <007701c4ff19$749b8130$xxxxxxxx@xxxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> <007701c4ff19$749b8130$xxxxxxxx@xxxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx BTW- the one that lasted a loooong time was a sony mz-r30 - about a third larger than current sony units (and much more robust it would seem) also, the reporters @ NPR use minidiscs as well mostly the mzb100 (though they always use external mics as the npr engineers disconnect the built in stereo mic. Also has a built in speaker, which could be useful. chris On Jan 20, 2005, at 12:57 PM, ale*** wrote: > From my experience the Sonys are plagued with problems (even though > they > look cool), if you can try a Sharp, generally they are more reliable. > Just my 2 cents... > > ale*** > > --- > http://www.pachinkostudio.com > http://www.12k.com/term/term10.htm > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <xxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> > To: <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> > Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2005 3:02 PM > Subject: [microsound] [ot] minidisc recorders > > >> can anyone kindly suggest a minidisc player/recorder w/ a >> microphonejack. > thats good for making field recordings and is under 300 dollars. >> -t > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > mandra c:410.258.5281 h:301 772 7376 realtime experimentalist / guitarist for Telesma creator of "the manDrum" ....jamming the mainstream in the zips http://defDumbAndBass.com http://telesma23.com http://skywheel.com Come to my very happening *happening* the defDumbAndBass fREAKoUT! happening the 3rd Sunday of EVERY month @ the Royal - 1542 Light Street, Baltimore, MD watch, listen, dance, relax and explore the "known unknowns" AND check out "e+@13" - a new show the first Thursday of every month at the 13th Floor in Baltimore highlighting live aspects of electronic music. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Jan 20 18:07:13 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33990-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 20 Jan 2005 13:07:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 20 Jan 2005 13:07:12 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 36435 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 20 Jan 2005 18:07:07 +0000 Received: (qmail 36425 invoked from network); Thu, 20 Jan 2005 18:07:07 +0000 Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 13:07:05 -0500 (GMT-05:00) From: Matthew Mitchell <xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] privilege, boundaries and class To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: Matthew Mitchell <xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Earthlink Zoo Mail 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > I undoubtedly feel privileged to be a > musician, to be able to think about such things, and to live in the > country in > which I live, the recent political situation notwithstanding. >>that statement is another discussion altogether...but in passing: why do you feel privileged to live in your country - which I am assuming to be the US given the reference to the 'recent political situation' in your statement...but most countries have had 'recent political situations' and I could be wrong here... Yeah, its the US - I was originally trying to avoid trumpeting a 'proud to be an American' tone which I find distasteful in many others who use it. I guess what makes me feel that way, not intending to sound proud, is a general love of life and the general feeling that what has made that possible for me is my location, though in retrospect time is the other big factor. So I guess its not the US per se, it just happens to be so, if that makes sense. >>also, aren't borders/nation-states et. al. just 'artificial' constructs that we are sold through indoctrination and media? and if they are artificial why do we cling to them? what real purpose do these boundaries serve? That's a huge question that I don't have time to explore really at the moment, but my basic response would be no. >>in any event, by using the term 'privilege' I didn't mean 'the feeling of gratitude' but an 'immunity' from the underlying mechanisms and agendas of consumer capitalism...a state of 'privilege' tends to blind those who have had life-long indoctrination by western power structures...our privileged way of life colors how we see things (or not see things), our unquestioned bourgeois life-style of convenience which some person in a remote part of the planet has made available to us through their labor...we wall all this off so that it remains hidden...this is the psychic defense mechanism of 'freedom' we learn to acquire in a late stage capitalist society...a system where markets aren't free but manipulated and programmed to benefit the corporate power structures that sustain them...the point being that privilege creates a state of being made politically unaware and isolated by the very act of consumption... I understand what you're saying. That tendency for Americans to be not politically aware is why I've tried for years to be as politically aware as I can. I guess my confusion resulted and still resides in not understanding how taking Adorno to task for his dismissal of jazz in 'the jazz quote' is privileged or bourgeois. Maybe its my insistence of focusing solely on the music that makes it that way. As I stated earlier, I don't really have a complaint about Adorno on the whole, as I've not read enough of him to muster a complaint. -matt www.mattmitchell.us Listen to free music, read the blog, sign the guestbook! --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Jan 20 18:00:27 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33989-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.110]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 20 Jan 2005 13:00:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 20 Jan 2005 13:00:27 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 30567 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 20 Jan 2005 18:00:23 +0000 Received: (qmail 30557 invoked from network); Thu, 20 Jan 2005 18:00:23 +0000 Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 13:01:07 -0500 From: mandra <xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> (chris) Subject: Re: [microsound] [ot] minidisc recorders In-reply-to: <001101c4ff14$f925a840$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <p06110404be15710a7389@[172.16.1.34]> <001101c4ff14$f925a840$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx From my experience with the minidisc (used one steadily from 1999 until last year when it finally died) - if it is subjected to constant vibration for over a minute or so w/ out pause it will shut off - that's why I always sat it on a towel or folded t-shirt when recording shows with it. Generally a fine enough unit for archiving things to not really be released for audiophiles, but the adtrac encoding is a little weird i.e. my audio technica stereo mic always picked up people talking at shows, but thanks to adtrac, I could never really make out individual words from voices in a crowd - creating instant paul lanskyish chatter... chris On Jan 20, 2005, at 12:25 PM, th_ost wrote: > > > Sony MZ-NHF900 HiMD > http://minidisc.org/hi-md_faq.html > >> can anyone kindly suggest a minidisc player/recorder w/ a >> microphonejack. thats good for making field recordings and is under >> 300 dollars. >> -t > > > > - i've got the MZ-NHF700 myself. it's a nice unit, can transfer files > to pc via usb, but i did have some problems with transmitting wav/pcm > format files, as sonic stage (the somewhat fascist prog that comes > with it for that purpose) seems to automatically encode them when > transferring... i read that an update version has wav export, though, > so i need to check again... (was partially lazy about it) > > only downside so far (got it since october), i tried recording a > live-act, and it automatically switched off 2 times... might have been > some "faulty" autorecord settings on my behalf as well, so i am > carefull with downright criticism... > > anyway, the whole nhf series seems decent, esp. the one gb hi-md > feature... > (you can even use it as an external hd, drag and drop from win > exploder...) > > best, > oliver > °°° > th_ost: tomoroh hidari_oliver stummer > acronymic symbiosis of alter & ego > > http://www.tomoroh.com/ > http://www.stiege44.com/ > xxxxxx@xxx.xxx > ay, sigue:56825202 > >>> we gonna fight for your right to apathy... << > °°°°° > > mandra c:410.258.5281 h:301 772 7376 realtime experimentalist / guitarist for Telesma creator of "the manDrum" ....jamming the mainstream in the zips http://defDumbAndBass.com http://telesma23.com http://skywheel.com Come to my very happening *happening* the defDumbAndBass fREAKoUT! happening the 3rd Sunday of EVERY month @ the Royal - 1542 Light Street, Baltimore, MD watch, listen, dance, relax and explore the "known unknowns" AND check out "e+@13" - a new show the first Thursday of every month at the 13th Floor in Baltimore highlighting live aspects of electronic music. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Jan 20 17:57:11 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33988-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.82]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 20 Jan 2005 12:57:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 20 Jan 2005 12:57:11 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 27974 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 20 Jan 2005 17:57:08 +0000 Received: (qmail 27964 invoked from network); Thu, 20 Jan 2005 17:57:08 +0000 Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 18:57:05 +0100 From: ale*** <xxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] [ot] minidisc recorders To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <007701c4ff19$749b8130$xxxxxxxx@xxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1478 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx From my experience the Sonys are plagued with problems (even though they look cool), if you can try a Sharp, generally they are more reliable. Just my 2 cents... ale*** --- http://www.pachinkostudio.com http://www.12k.com/term/term10.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: <xxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> To: <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2005 3:02 PM Subject: [microsound] [ot] minidisc recorders > can anyone kindly suggest a minidisc player/recorder w/ a microphonejack. thats good for making field recordings and is under 300 dollars. > -t --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Jan 20 17:57:03 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33987-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 20 Jan 2005 12:57:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 20 Jan 2005 12:57:03 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 26932 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 20 Jan 2005 17:56:51 +0000 Received: (qmail 26836 invoked from network); Thu, 20 Jan 2005 17:56:50 +0000 Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 09:56:48 -0800 (PST) From: xxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx Subject: Re: [microsound] [ot] minidisc recorders In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@x.xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Cc: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxx.xxx.xxx.xxx.x.xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx.xxx.x> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@x.xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx http://www.minidisco.com is a very good source. /sean > The Sharp MT190 definitely rocks. They can be a bit tough to find, but > I got one a year ago or more for under $200. You'll still have to > transfer to a computer the old fashioned analog way, but there are > really no other options. Last I heard, it was still impossible to > download recorded tracks from minidisc digitally... thank you Sony & > co. > > http://minidisc.org/equipment_browser.html is a good resource, btw. > > - Scott Carver > > On Jan 20, 2005, at 6:02 AM, xxxxxxx@xxx.xxx wrote: > >> can anyone kindly suggest a minidisc player/recorder w/ a >> microphonejack. thats good for making field recordings and is under >> 300 dollars. >> -t > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Jan 20 17:51:50 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33986-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.110]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 20 Jan 2005 12:51:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 20 Jan 2005 12:51:50 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 23009 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 20 Jan 2005 17:51:45 +0000 Received: (qmail 22999 invoked from network); Thu, 20 Jan 2005 17:51:45 +0000 Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 12:51:41 -0500 From: skippy random <xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Adorno redux In-reply-to: <r02010400-1035-7233895F6B0311D99E80000D932C0D78@[67.84.254.108]> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.552) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx for anyone interested in researching what Adorno may or may not have said on music I recommend the following collection: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0520231597/ qid=1106243107/sr=8-1/ref=pd_csp_1/104-2881749- 3491128?v=glance&s=books&n=507846 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Jan 20 17:28:52 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33985-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.109]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 20 Jan 2005 12:28:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 20 Jan 2005 12:28:52 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 11249 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 20 Jan 2005 17:28:49 +0000 Received: (qmail 11235 invoked from network); Thu, 20 Jan 2005 17:28:48 +0000 Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 18:25:00 +0100 From: th_ost <xxxxxx@xxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] [ot] minidisc recorders To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <001101c4ff14$f925a840$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_rgCdnuxnbGmb1DbBsYiXJQ)" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Authenticated: #3048294 X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <p06110404be15710a7389@[172.16.1.34]> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_rgCdnuxnbGmb1DbBsYiXJQ) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sony MZ-NHF900 HiMD http://minidisc.org/hi-md_faq.html >can anyone kindly suggest a minidisc player/recorder w/ a >microphonejack. thats good for making field recordings and is under >300 dollars. >-t - i've got the MZ-NHF700 myself. it's a nice unit, can transfer files to pc via usb, but i did have some problems with transmitting wav/pcm format files, as sonic stage (the somewhat fascist prog that comes with it for that purpose) seems to automatically encode them when transferring... i read that an update version has wav export, though, so i need to check again... (was partially lazy about it) only downside so far (got it since october), i tried recording a live-act, and it automatically switched off 2 times... might have been some "faulty" autorecord settings on my behalf as well, so i am carefull with downright criticism... anyway, the whole nhf series seems decent, esp. the one gb hi-md feature... (you can even use it as an external hd, drag and drop from win exploder...) best, oliver °°° th_ost: tomoroh hidari_oliver stummer acronymic symbiosis of alter & ego http://www.tomoroh.com/ http://www.stiege44.com/ xxxxxx@xxx.xxx ay, sigue:56825202 >> we gonna fight for your right to apathy... << °°°°° --Boundary_(ID_rgCdnuxnbGmb1DbBsYiXJQ)-- From ???@??? Thu Jan 20 17:03:43 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33984-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 20 Jan 2005 12:03:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 20 Jan 2005 12:03:43 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 1727 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 20 Jan 2005 17:03:41 +0000 Received: (qmail 1717 invoked from network); Thu, 20 Jan 2005 17:03:41 +0000 Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 09:03:38 -0800 From: Scott Carver <xxxxxxx@x.xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] [ot] minidisc recorders In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@x.xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx The Sharp MT190 definitely rocks. They can be a bit tough to find, but I got one a year ago or more for under $200. You'll still have to transfer to a computer the old fashioned analog way, but there are really no other options. Last I heard, it was still impossible to download recorded tracks from minidisc digitally... thank you Sony & co. http://minidisc.org/equipment_browser.html is a good resource, btw. - Scott Carver On Jan 20, 2005, at 6:02 AM, xxxxxxx@xxx.xxx wrote: > can anyone kindly suggest a minidisc player/recorder w/ a > microphonejack. thats good for making field recordings and is under > 300 dollars. > -t --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Jan 20 16:51:28 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33983-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.82]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 20 Jan 2005 11:51:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 20 Jan 2005 11:51:27 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 93479 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 20 Jan 2005 16:51:25 +0000 Received: (qmail 93469 invoked from network); Thu, 20 Jan 2005 16:51:25 +0000 Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 11:50:52 -0500 From: vze26m98 <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Adorno redux In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <r02010400-1035-7233895F6B0311D99E80000D932C0D78@[67.84.254.108]> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mailsmith 2.1.4 (Blindsider) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Matthew Mitchell wrote on 1/20/05: > Here's what I wrote, as a reminder: "Adorno was far too subtle to >simply look for a justification for his own tastes. that would be an >unbelievably dumb reading of Adorno." I have to agree with Bill. As much as you may not like it, it's a critique of an action, not a person. There's a big difference between saying: "That was a dumb thing to do." and "You're dumb." (Which wasn't what Bill said.) >To imply that someone would be offended by a 'misreading' is just >utterly preposterous. I said from the outset that Adorno was simply >justifying his own tastes. It seemed to me that, regardless of the >larger social agenda he had, he was simply speaking a lot of nonsense >about the music while not dealing with the music at all. If someone is >offended by my actually saying that, well, then, they can get over it! Well, "offended" might not be what I'd offer, but "uninterested in continuing the conversation" is pretty close. Adorno did deal very explicitly with the music of his time. Sadly, most of us are too lazy to discover/understand what the music of his time was. For those with some energy try: J. Bradford Robinson, "Jazz Reception in Germany: in Search of a Shimmy Figure" in _Music and Peformance during the Weimar Republic_, edited by Bryan Gilliam, Cambridge Studies in Performance Practice 3, Cambridge, 1994. Best, Tad <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Jan 20 16:45:10 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33982-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 20 Jan 2005 11:45:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 20 Jan 2005 11:45:10 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 88323 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 20 Jan 2005 16:45:06 +0000 Received: (qmail 88312 invoked from network); Thu, 20 Jan 2005 16:45:05 +0000 Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 08:45:03 -0800 From: Kim Cascone <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] privilege, boundaries and class To: microsound_list <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Loop-Detect: 1 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > I undoubtedly feel privileged to be a > musician, to be able to think about such things, and to live in the > country in > which I live, the recent political situation notwithstanding. that statement is another discussion altogether...but in passing: why do you feel privileged to live in your country - which I am assuming to be the US given the reference to the 'recent political situation' in your statement...but most countries have had 'recent political situations' and I could be wrong here... also, aren't borders/nation-states et. al. just 'artificial' constructs that we are sold through indoctrination and media? and if they are artificial why do we cling to them? what real purpose do these boundaries serve? in any event, by using the term 'privilege' I didn't mean 'the feeling of gratitude' but an 'immunity' from the underlying mechanisms and agendas of consumer capitalism...a state of 'privilege' tends to blind those who have had life-long indoctrination by western power structures...our privileged way of life colors how we see things (or not see things), our unquestioned bourgeois life-style of convenience which some person in a remote part of the planet has made available to us through their labor...we wall all this off so that it remains hidden...this is the psychic defense mechanism of 'freedom' we learn to acquire in a late stage capitalist society...a system where markets aren't free but manipulated and programmed to benefit the corporate power structures that sustain them... unless of course it's fashionable to participate in a PC-feel-good fashion marketing plan...e.g. last night I heard something on NPR w/r/t Bank of America building a 'green' skyscraper in NYC - Bof A's real motives are submerged while the consumer gets the friendly face on all this posturing...if BofA were really to be effective at being 'green' they would take their resources and re-distribute it to building an infrastructure of greenness rather than erecting a monument to their own political-correctness...not that what they are doing is 'wrong' per se but that is another discussion and I am digressing...the point being that privilege creates a state of being made politically unaware and isolated by the very act of consumption... sorry for the fragmented scattered thoughts but still nursing my first cup of French roast! :) > However, for > anyone who owns a computer to take someone to task for a position they > see > as bourgeois is beyond rich, in my opinion. you are misreading the term bourgeois...I mean it as more of a mind-set and less of a power to consume afforded to particular class structure... --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Jan 20 16:14:10 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33981-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.82]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 20 Jan 2005 11:14:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 20 Jan 2005 11:14:10 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 72513 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 20 Jan 2005 16:14:07 +0000 Received: (qmail 72502 invoked from network); Thu, 20 Jan 2005 16:14:07 +0000 Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 16:13:11 +0000 From: Juan Gil <xxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: RE: [microsound] Hit Song Science & Adorno In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> X-Originating-IP: [80.34.102.50] X-Sender: xxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Bcc: Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Originating-Email: [xxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Jan 2005 16:14:05.0560 (UTC) FILETIME=[10407780:01C4FF0B] That could reinforce the Adornian criticism to the popular music related with the fact of the "standardization". I dont support the Adorno ideas out of the context in what he wrote it but i think that it could work with some industrialize styles. HSS (Hit song Science) seem to justify it if its efficiency is tested. [i apologize to you for my english] Juan >From: Phil Thomson <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> >Reply-To: Phil Thomson <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> >To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> >Subject: [microsound] Hit Song Science >Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 07:52:09 -0800 > >Keywords: AI, hit song selection, automation of taste > >http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/01/18/1329238 > > >-- >Phil Thomson >xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx > >{ home: http://www.sfu.ca/~pthomson/ >{ blog: http://www.bloglines.com/blog/PhilThomson >{ label: http://centibel.org/ > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >website: http://www.microsound.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? 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These guys have shared the stage as an opening act with the likes of Jack Rose, Six Organs of Admittance, MV & EE, Tony Conrad, and most recently Austin's own Weird Weeds. Now they are bringing their wild neo-folk stylings to Austin for a show you won't want to miss. The Bronze Eye (Oklahoma City, OK) - Glitchy turntable loops and found sound. Inalonelyplace (Austin, TX) - Ambient soundtrack muzac performed live along with a short film. Saturday, Jan. 22 show starts at 8, doors at 7 $5.00 http://spagirus.ivdt.net --- Alex Perepelycia <xxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx.xx> wrote: From: Alex Perepelycia <xxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx.xx> Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 08:53:03 +0000 (GMT) To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Subject: [microsound] Alexis Perepelycia New EP Dear all, I,ve just want to share with U some music. Click on the link below. All the best. Alexis. http://www.archive.org/audio/audio-details-db.php?collection=dreamland_recordings&collectionid=dlnet024&from=recentAdditions&PHPSESSID=91a3c0f5d3acc531a18b8e28ea159bed ___________________________________________________________ ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - all new features - even more fun! http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org _____________________________________________________________ Get FREE Email and FREE Websites at http://www.chaosmagic.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Jan 20 15:52:15 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33979-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 20 Jan 2005 10:52:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 20 Jan 2005 10:52:15 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 62526 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 20 Jan 2005 15:52:12 +0000 Received: (qmail 62516 invoked from network); Thu, 20 Jan 2005 15:52:12 +0000 Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 10:52:09 -0500 (GMT-05:00) From: Matthew Mitchell <xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Adorno redux To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: Matthew Mitchell <xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Earthlink Zoo Mail 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > One last thing: I didn't know that calling people (or statements > made by people, whatever) 'unbelievably dumb' recently became acceptable > discourse on this list. I guessed I missed that memo. >>Try to read a bit more subtly, Matt. I talked about what "would" be dumb readings of Adorno. If that offends, just think of how offensive the readings are to people like Kim, Peter, and me. Prideful displays of ignorance--followed by the inevitable resentment when called on it. Here's what I wrote, as a reminder: "Adorno was far too subtle to simply look for a justification for his own tastes. that would be an unbelievably dumb reading of Adorno." To imply that someone would be offended by a 'misreading' is just utterly preposterous. I said from the outset that Adorno was simply justifying his own tastes. It seemed to me that, regardless of the larger social agenda he had, he was simply speaking a lot of nonsense about the music while not dealing with the music at all. If someone is offended by my actually saying that, well, then, they can get over it! I'll ignore alll the other garbage except to say that for you to complain about 'misreadings and facile reductions' is hilarious. At any rate, this is ridiculous, so I'm personally through with this thread. -matt www.mattmitchell.us Listen to free music, read the blog, sign the guestbook! --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Jan 20 15:08:08 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33978-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 20 Jan 2005 10:08:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 20 Jan 2005 10:08:08 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 39672 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 20 Jan 2005 15:08:05 +0000 Received: (qmail 39659 invoked from network); Thu, 20 Jan 2005 15:08:04 +0000 Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 10:08:07 -0500 From: John Nowak <xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] new member introduction In-reply-to: <001401c4ff01$51f6de80$xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> <001401c4ff01$51f6de80$xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx On Jan 20, 2005, at 10:04 AM, DaveX wrote: > Hello. My name is DaveX. You're from the future, aren't you! > "As knives, so does one man sharpen another." Unless both men have knives. Then they kill each other. - John --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Jan 20 15:02:13 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33976-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.114]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 20 Jan 2005 10:02:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 20 Jan 2005 10:02:13 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 34969 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 20 Jan 2005 15:02:10 +0000 Received: (qmail 34959 invoked from network); Thu, 20 Jan 2005 15:02:10 +0000 Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 09:04:20 -0600 From: DaveX <xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] new member introduction To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <001401c4ff01$51f6de80$xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1478 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Hello. My name is DaveX. I am a new member of the .microsound list; I thought I might take an opportunity to introduce myself. I am an experimental sound artist in Southern Illinois. I am very interested in trying to make sounds and recordings that are what I think of as "sounds from the future", or sounds that have no connection to the present. I am also interested in using these sounds to overwhelm the self, and possibly transform the experience of the listener into something more like an "accident" rather than a controlled action. I often find that my music is lacking some element that would make me satisfied with it, although I am often very satisfied with the process of creating it, and the ideas surrounding its composition, etc. For the past five years, I have hosted a weekly experimental radio show at a volunteer run, not-for-profit community radio station. Anyone wanting more info on that can e-mail me directly: itde AT mchsi.com In addition; I collect produce stickers, solid color plastic animals, photomat photos, remote controls for the Midwest Clicker Museum, Jimmy Swaggart albums, pictures of cattle, and bizarre vinyl. I am hoping that by being a part of this list, I'll be able to further understand a lot of what I didn't "get" in Curtis Roads book. *lol* DaveX ps- I love discussion. If I bring something up in an e-mail that is interesting to you, and maybe not terribly useful to the general microsound list, don't hesitate to e-mail me. "As knives, so does one man sharpen another." --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Jan 20 15:04:54 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33977-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 20 Jan 2005 10:04:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 20 Jan 2005 10:04:54 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 36892 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 20 Jan 2005 15:04:51 +0000 Received: (qmail 36877 invoked from network); Thu, 20 Jan 2005 15:04:51 +0000 Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 10:03:01 -0500 From: John Nowak <xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] [ot] minidisc recorders In-reply-to: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Another alternative is to pick up a used one off eBay. The interfaces on Sony minidisk players (and most of their products actually) are horrid. I picked up a used Sharp player for $40 on eBay. Sounds good enough for my purposes, and the recording interface is very intuitive. Actually, hell, if you want mine, let me know. Cheap cheap. I never use the thing... bought it for field recordings but never actually made any. Comes with lots of stuff... :-) - John --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Jan 20 14:39:10 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33974-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.114]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 20 Jan 2005 09:39:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 20 Jan 2005 09:39:09 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 23647 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 20 Jan 2005 14:39:06 +0000 Received: (qmail 23636 invoked from network); Thu, 20 Jan 2005 14:39:06 +0000 Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 14:38:47 +0000 From: scott allison <xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: RE: [microsound] [ot] minidisc recorders In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> X-Originating-IP: [68.165.209.33] X-Sender: xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Bcc: Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Originating-Email: [xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Jan 2005 14:39:02.0114 (UTC) FILETIME=[C8BBAC20:01C4FEFD] >can anyone kindly suggest a minidisc player/recorder w/ a microphonejack. thats good for making field recordings and is under 300 dollars. >-t This is a new one of the sony HI MD series. http://www.sonystyle.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/eCS/Store/en/-/USD/SY_DisplayProductInformation-Start?ProductSKU=MZNHF800KIT&Dept=pa&CategoryName=pa_DigitalMusicPlayers_MiniDisc_HiMDWalkman It does not record at 24 bit like most minidisc recorders (24 bit at ATRAC mind you), but the sony can record 16 bit uncompressed files, and if your on a PC, using the software, you can transfer the files from the mini disc to your Hard drive directly (sony has not created a version of the software for the mac), with out having to waste quality re-recording your recordings on to your computer. Also the unit can use the 1 gig discs, lots of storage space. it sells for around 250$, a friend of mine just got one of these, he is a total gear freak, and really likes/recommends the unit. For around 450$ Edirol has a nice unit called somethign like the R1 or maybe it s the R4, it can record 24 bit uncompressed, it uses flash cards, and can transfer the files via USB 2.0, it is supposed to have a decent ADC, so the extra $ could result in better recordings. Personally I have not had a chance to try one of these out, anyone have any real expreience with this handheld unit? --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Jan 20 14:48:31 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33975-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 20 Jan 2005 09:48:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 20 Jan 2005 09:48:31 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 29244 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 20 Jan 2005 14:48:28 +0000 Received: (qmail 29232 invoked from network); Thu, 20 Jan 2005 14:48:28 +0000 Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 08:33:50 -0600 From: Rob Danielson <xxxx@xxx.xxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] [ot] minidisc recorders In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.x et> X-Sender: xxxx@xxxxxx.xxx.xxx.xxx To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <p06110404be15710a7389@[172.16.1.34]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_e1PM67GPlwzRAeycjprAiw)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.x et> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_e1PM67GPlwzRAeycjprAiw) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sony MZ-NHF900 HiMD http://minidisc.org/hi-md_faq.html >can anyone kindly suggest a minidisc player/recorder w/ a >microphonejack. thats good for making field recordings and is under >300 dollars. >-t -- Rob Danielson Film Department University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee --Boundary_(ID_e1PM67GPlwzRAeycjprAiw)-- From ???@??? Thu Jan 20 14:02:09 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33973-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 20 Jan 2005 09:02:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 20 Jan 2005 09:02:09 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 7339 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 20 Jan 2005 14:02:05 +0000 Received: (qmail 7329 invoked from network); Thu, 20 Jan 2005 14:02:05 +0000 Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 14:02:03 +0000 From: xxxxxxx@xxx.xxx Subject: [microsound] [ot] minidisc recorders To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx) Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Oct 18 2004) Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_nzLK3mQmREtEOvYnYkCiXg)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Authenticated-Sender: dGlvbmxlZUBhdHQubmV0 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_nzLK3mQmREtEOvYnYkCiXg) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit can anyone kindly suggest a minidisc player/recorder w/ a microphonejack. thats good for making field recordings and is under 300 dollars. -t --Boundary_(ID_nzLK3mQmREtEOvYnYkCiXg)-- From ???@??? Fri Jan 21 12:13:28 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34015-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 07:13:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 21 Jan 2005 07:13:27 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 57177 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 21 Jan 2005 12:13:21 +0000 Received: (qmail 57165 invoked from network); Fri, 21 Jan 2005 12:13:21 +0000 Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 13:12:27 +0100 From: Sascha Bondzio <xxxxx@xxx.xxx> Subject: FW: [microsound] [ot] minidisc recorders In-reply-to: <BE155DB6.432%xxxxx@xxx.xxx> To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BE155EBB.436%xxxxx@xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/9.0.2509 X-Authenticated: #18191925 X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx ............................................................................. > can anyone kindly suggest a minidisc player/recorder w/ a microphonejack. > thats good for making field recordings and is under 300 dollars. > -t Hi t, I can not recommend Minidisc-Recorder. I have bought recently an Archos Gmini 120. It has a WAV-recordingfunction, produces however unfortunately small interferences. Show you that... Thats to be recommended... http://www.edirol.com/products/info/r1.html Greatings Sascha --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Jan 21 12:09:06 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34014-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.112]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 07:09:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 21 Jan 2005 07:09:06 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 54724 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 21 Jan 2005 12:09:01 +0000 Received: (qmail 54714 invoked from network); Fri, 21 Jan 2005 12:09:01 +0000 Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 13:08:06 +0100 From: Sascha Bondzio <xxxxx@xxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] [ot] minidisc recorders In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BE155DB6.432%xxxxx@xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/9.0.2509 X-Authenticated: #18191925 X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Am 20.01.2005 15:02 Uhr schrieb "xxxxxxx@xxx.xxx" unter <xxxxxxx@xxx.xxx>: > can anyone kindly suggest a minidisc player/recorder w/ a microphonejack. > thats good for making field recordings and is under 300 dollars. > -t Hi t, I can not recommend Minidisc-Recorder. I have bought recently an Archos Gmini 120. It has a WAV-recordingfunction, produces however unfortunately small interferences. Show you that... Thats to be recommended... http://www.edirol.com/products/info/r1.html Greatings Sascha --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? 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Thu Jan 20 04:47:07 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33971-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 23:47:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 19 Jan 2005 23:47:06 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 61429 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 20 Jan 2005 04:47:05 +0000 Received: (qmail 61418 invoked from network); Thu, 20 Jan 2005 04:47:04 +0000 Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 13:46:57 +0900 From: Bill Ashline <xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Adorno redux In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: Bill Ashline <xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=l1pr1lkjXbSYiNjuNYf5tAwZRcCu5JwbHEuLGCQJx//CHUjGHopKPFX1KxwHtI06QBUI/noB3aa1vuPMAxOGoFNmAqBlyl/Hqnr47tcyhZhaRmLGazAvrR9u5yslhmMdqnfOd4N30AUtzLF+nWal70Q3bw+lxIXHC7ofWzPFKos= X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 16:47:1 -0500, Matthew Mitchell <xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote: > > I guess I should have made clear in my > 'unbelievably dumb' reading of that Adorno quote that I was really responding to > that quote in particular and have not much of an opinion yet regarding Adorno on > the whole, having read only bits and pieces scattered over the years. >What > it set off in me was a general revulsion for music criticism that deals little > with the actual music and instead speaks in sweeping generalities. > At any rate, my real, only semi-related complaint that always stews in my > brain is that 98% of music critics seem to actually know nothing about > music. Rather odd here, don't you think, to indict music critics for making sweeping generalizations and knowing not of which they speak and yet making a sweeping indictment of Adorno with having read only "bits and pieces?" Music critics are primarily journalists. If there are faults in the profession of music criticism (I'd say there are quite a few-- and so we agree for once, Matt), I'd say they have more to do with the field of journalism itself, which is prone to be highly superficial and not very critical at all. Adorno doesn't come from such a background. He was a philosopher--one who also studied music, though contrary to your assumption, this doesn't necessarily provide one with any special privileges or advantages. If you have deft ears, you can be a music "critic," and anyone who listens to music seriously basically is whether they get paid for it or not. Outsiders to musical production can often be very perceptive. > However, for > anyone who owns a computer to take someone to task for a position they see > as bourgeois is beyond rich, in my opinion. Come on, Matt. The sign of being bourgeois is not the ownership of a personal computer in late capitalist consumer society. That's just a tad bit simple. The sign of being bourgeois is being able to have an opinion about something before taking the time to think it through and do your homework, don't you think? Kim was talking about misreadings and implying facile reductions. There was a time, not that long ago, when people would be embarrassed to post their uninformed opinions publicly. But in these times of faith-based politics, ignorance is triumphant--and rewarded--that's what we call "bourgeois." > Even the 'best' critics with whom I often agree and > to whom I look for opinions regarding recordings I haven't yet heard will make a > statement or two occasionally that reveals shocking ignorance towards the most > basic building blocks of the music they're reviewing. The literary > community probably wouldn't take too kindly to critics who didn't understand > basic sentence structure, just as I'm sure art critics are probably expected to > know how to recognize the color blue. The same holds true about critics of philosophers, I'd say. > > One last thing: I didn't know that calling people (or statements > made by people, whatever) 'unbelievably dumb' recently became acceptable > discourse on this list. I guessed I missed that memo. Try to read a bit more subtly, Matt. I talked about what "would" be dumb readings of Adorno. If that offends, just think of how offensive the readings are to people like Kim, Peter, and me. Prideful displays of ignorance--followed by the inevitable resentment when called on it. Here's what I wrote, as a reminder: "Adorno was far too subtle to simply look for a justification for his own tastes. that would be an unbelievably dumb reading of Adorno." On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 08:51:34 -0800, Kim Cascone <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote: >And while some > people dismiss Adorno as a old school Marxist cultural curmudgeon (who > couldn't dance) I see most current (mis)readings of his work as simply > privileged and bourgeois. I think Adorno is very much needed in these > times. I couldn't agree more. Adorno was written for times like these. -- "Artists tear percepts out of their perceptions, in the same way that Impressionist painters twist our perception of light by showing us their impression of it with colour instead of line, creating a percept called Impressionism. Deleuze states that this creates a completely new habit of thought, one that twists our nerves and creates "a crack in the skull" (Parnet 1996). " --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Jan 20 04:00:45 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33970-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 23:00:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 19 Jan 2005 23:00:45 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 47925 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 20 Jan 2005 04:00:42 +0000 Received: (qmail 47912 invoked from network); Thu, 20 Jan 2005 04:00:41 +0000 Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 13:00:37 +0900 From: Bill Ashline <xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Fwd: [microsound] essay on TWiki site In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: Microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: Bill Ashline <xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=NTlpSH69IcZNd134rFwB/K96WS80Yn9wLmpBn2mrefgL/1tu3L5umCa96anWf9ZcAq1cgyXO4d0/yksN3Z9toHpW3lKXDfHXyokiiL0XZ8rWV/D0ClCL3Krn7F6u56+qfA3afLtpnLI2mxQPx7KLJ+th8UACcYZ3IVJdiQLE9WQ= X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 09:08:58 -0800 (PST), jeff gburek <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> wrote: > i wonder, bill, if this is the problem with those who > read their adorno and write with it in mind, rather > than write/work against it as much as they write/work > against the dominating culture (can we speak of > counter-culture heroism, a kind of follow the leader > dynamic even if attentions are best yet not idiotic > enough?---the tendency to conflate all dominant > culture with the nazist, when the conditions we live > in are quite different. yeah, sure, Jeff. One must always caution against such forms of heroism. But Adorno wasn't attempting to conflate all forms of dominant culture with Nazism. he was trying to critique the mode of thought that Nazism triumphed and even if our conditions are much more different than Nazism today, the mode of thought which was Adorno's target certainly hasn't gone away. My reason for chiming in here wasn't that Adorno's work lacked problems. it's that there's no texture in any discussion about him on a music list. Everyone cites all the cliches, the facile reductions, the cheap shots. it gets annoying to read such garbage when a person like Adorno is far more worthy of a serious undertaking than anyone posting on this board, myself included. If a single person on an email list could accomplish in an entire lifetime what Adorno managed to do in a single year, it would be remarkable, especially today. Sometimes you have to earn your spurs to criticize. On some of these posts people wear their lack of homework with pathetic pride. Adorno and Horkheimer close the Dialectic of Enlightenment with a brief essay on the genesis of stupidity, which is probably apropos in this context: "Stupidity is a scar. It can stem from one of many activities--physical or mental--or from all. Every partial stupidity of a man denotes a spot where the play of stirring muscles was thwarted instead of encouraged." -- "Artists tear percepts out of their perceptions, in the same way that Impressionist painters twist our perception of light by showing us their impression of it with colour instead of line, creating a percept called Impressionism. Deleuze states that this creates a completely new habit of thought, one that twists our nerves and creates "a crack in the skull" (Parnet 1996). 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Thu Jan 20 00:21:31 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33969-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 19:21:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 19 Jan 2005 19:21:31 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 53909 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 20 Jan 2005 00:20:56 +0000 Received: (qmail 53889 invoked from network); Thu, 20 Jan 2005 00:20:56 +0000 Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 16:20:45 -0800 From: Richard Zvonar <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] ACF/LA Recording Workshop with Ronan Chris Murphy Jan. 29 In-reply-to: <BE146222.42CD%xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <p0620073abe14a933ad22@[192.168.0.3]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_R/dPML0K9h7zQ8x8u9WDdA)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <BE146222.42CD%xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_R/dPML0K9h7zQ8x8u9WDdA) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit At 7:14 PM -0500 1/19/05, precursor wrote: >sounds like an interesting place to be...wish we had something like this in >NYC :( Check out Harvestworks/Studio PASS: http://www.harvestworks.org/ They have a lot of great classes: http://www.harvestworks.org/education/menu.php?area=registration Artist residencies too: http://www.harvestworks.org/artistopp/artisttemplate_AIR.php?submitid=1 -- ______________________________________________________________ Richard Zvonar, PhD (818) 788-2202 http://www.zvonar.com http://salamandersongs.com http://ill-wind.com --Boundary_(ID_R/dPML0K9h7zQ8x8u9WDdA)-- From ???@??? Thu Jan 20 00:15:12 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33968-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 19:15:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 19 Jan 2005 19:15:11 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 48917 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 20 Jan 2005 00:14:57 +0000 Received: (qmail 48907 invoked from network); Thu, 20 Jan 2005 00:14:57 +0000 Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 19:14:42 -0500 From: precursor <xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] ACF/LA Recording Workshop with Ronan Chris Murphy Jan. 29 In-reply-to: <p06200732be14816b5a2f@[192.168.0.3]> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BE146222.42CD%xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.0.6 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx sounds like an interesting place to be...wish we had something like this in NYC :( --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Jan 20 00:12:22 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33967-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 19:12:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 19 Jan 2005 19:12:22 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 41649 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 20 Jan 2005 00:05:39 +0000 Received: (qmail 41635 invoked from network); Thu, 20 Jan 2005 00:05:39 +0000 Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 01:05:35 +0100 (CET) From: Onda Sonora Radio <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] CONTENTS ONDA SONORA 19/01/05 To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_Nknj3h17xo8OMScJBqxLCg)" Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_Nknj3h17xo8OMScJBqxLCg) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit ONDA SONORA, Madrid (ES) Radio Círculo de Bellas Artes 100.4 FM - Miércoles/Wednesday 15h - www.circulobellasartes.com Radio Autónoma 88.8 FM - Mar-Jue/Tue-Thu 16h - www.uam.es/ra Escucha en directo a cualquier hora / Listen live real time - www.ondasonoraradio.com _________________________________ CONTENTS ONDA SONORA 19/01/05 01. STEINBRÜCHEL Track: 1 Album: Skizzen Label: Bine Comenzamos con el suizo Ralph Steinbrüchel y su nuevo trabajo para el sello alemán Bine Records, una obra minimalista y contemplativa titulada "Skizzen", un mosaico de texturas sonoras entre la frialdad de Richard Chartier y los bocetos policromáticos de Taylor Deupree, un arranque cargado de intenciones para el programa de hoy, que pretende rozar lo subliminal Today we begin with Ralph Steinbrüchel (Switzerland) and his new work for the German imprint Bine Records, a minimalist and contemplative work entitled "Skizzen", a mosaic of sound textures between Richard Chartier's coldness and Taylor Deupree's multi-coloured sketches 02. SHUTTLE 358 Track: Ask Album: Chessa Label: 12K El californiano Dan Abrams, Shuttle 358, con su nuevo trabajo, "Chessa", el cuarto de su carrera y el tercero en el sello 12K, que dirige precisamente desde Nueva York Taylor Deupree. Continuamos con ambientes confeccionados a base de microsonidos, esta vez en un tono algo más humano y menos distante The Californian Dan Abrams, Shuttle 358, with his new work "Chessa", the fourth in his career and the third in the 12K imprint that is directed from New York by Taylor Deupree. We continue with atmospheres made up with microsounds, this time with a more human and less more distant approach 03. DRONAEMENT Track: Dronæment Album: Ezoterick Soundzcapes CDR Label: Mystery Sea Los sonidos de Dronaement, proyecto en solitario iniciado a finales de los 90 por el alemán Marcus Obst, un explorador del underground que ha colaborado en los últimos tiempos con Jim de Jong y Sebastien Roux, y que presenta un nuevo trabajo en solitario, "Ezoteric Soundzcapes", editado desde Bélgica por Mystery Sea The sounds of Dronaement, solo project began in the late 90s by the German Marcus Obst, a explorer of the underground scene that has collaborated in the last times with Jim de Jong and Sebastien Roux. Now he presents a new solo work, "Ezoteric Soundzcapes", released in Mystery Sea, from Belgium 04. ELUVIUM Track: Calm Of The Cast-Light Cloud Crocodile) Album: Talk Amongst The Trees Label: Temporary Residence Suenan los sonidos tratados de guitarra y piano, que dan un toque minimalista y emotivo al mismo tiempo a este "Talk Amongst The Trees", tercer disco en la compañía Temporary Residence del joven Matthew Cooper, Eluvium, desde la costa oeste de los Estados Unidos The treated guitar and piano sounds give a minimalist and emotive touch at the same time to this "Talk Amongst The Trees", third record in the Temporary Residence company for the young Matthew Cooper, Eluvium, residing in the U.S. Western Coast 05. ATELEIA Track: Tested By Habit, Strata And Brine Album: Swimming Against The Moments Label: Antiopic Aterrizamos en Nueva York para escuchar a James Elliott, más conocido por su sobrenombre Ateleia, quien incorpora en su debut sonidos de múltiples fuentes que procesa según patrones y estructuras conscientemente cercanos al pop, al ambient y a la electrónica, aunque manteniendo toques austeros, desencajados e hipnóticos: este es el corte final de "Swimming Against The Moments" We land in New York to listen to James Elliott, better known for his Ateleia moniker, who incorporates in his debut sounds from multiple sources that are processed according to patterns and structures consciously near to pop music, ambient and electronica, although maintaining an austere, disjointed and hypnotic touch: this it is the final track of "Swimming Against The Moments" 06. WILLIAM BASINSKI Artist: William Basinski Title: Silent Night Label: 2062 Último trabajo publicado por William Basinski en su propio sello 2062, uno de los muchos proyectos de este neoyorkino de adopción en el campo audiovisual, aunque sobre todo destaca como investigador de la escucha subconsciente, a través de largas obras que se valen de loops de cinta, emisiones de radio y, como en este caso, sintetizadores electrónicos. "Silent Night" dura una hora de la que vas a poder escuchar una extensa muestra de 20 minutos The last work released by William Basinski in his own 2062 label, one of the many projects of this adopted-newyorker in the audiovisual field, although he is mainly known as an investigator of subconscious listening, through long works that use tape loops, radio emissions and, like in this case, electronic synthesizers ______ Nota: Este mensaje no ha sido solicitado, pero consideramos que podría interesarte. 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Wed Jan 19 21:38:52 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33965-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 16:38:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 19 Jan 2005 16:38:52 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 60114 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 19 Jan 2005 21:38:51 +0000 Received: (qmail 60104 invoked from network); Wed, 19 Jan 2005 21:38:50 +0000 Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 16:47:01 -0500 From: Matthew Mitchell <xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Adorno redux To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: EarthLink MailBox 5.05.11 (Windows) Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_dmzRZIH57E93WdmXm8Sdxw)" X-Priority: Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-EM-Version: 5, 0, 0, 0 X-EM-Registration: #3003520714B31D032830 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_dmzRZIH57E93WdmXm8Sdxw) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I guess I should have made clear in my 'unbelievably dumb' reading of that Adorno quote that I was really responding to that quote in particular and have not much of an opinion yet regarding Adorno on the whole, having read only bits and pieces scattered over the years. What it set off in me was a general revulsion for music criticism that deals little with the actual music and instead speaks in sweeping generalities. While social implications are interesting, they are secondary to me, as the artist has little control over them once the art is created. The Adorno snippet on jazz (that I unfortunately don't have anymore) struck me as beyond presumptuous in the way he dismissed jazz without dealing with virtually any aspect of the actual music itself; it mostly struck me as a guy who simply didn't like jazz trying to construct an edifice to support his dislike. Undoubtedly it suffered a bit out of context; did he name names elsewhere? The impression I get is a position such as this, where the music itself is paramount and social considerations are of secondary importance, is what passes for 'privileged and bourgeois.' I undoubtedly feel privileged to be a musician, to be able to think about such things, and to live in the country in which I live, the recent political situation notwithstanding. However, for anyone who owns a computer to take someone to task for a position they see as bourgeois is beyond rich, in my opinion. At any rate, my real, only semi-related complaint that always stews in my brain is that 98% of music critics seem to actually know nothing about music. (Adorno is obviously an exception, having studied with Berg - I'm kind of moving on a tangent here.) For some reason, this has been OK for years and years now. Even the 'best' critics with whom I often agree and to whom I look for opinions regarding recordings I haven't yet heard will make a statement or two occasionally that reveals shocking ignorance towards the most basic building blocks of the music they're reviewing. The literary community probably wouldn't take too kindly to critics who didn't understand basic sentence structure, just as I'm sure art critics are probably expected to know how to recognize the color blue. One last thing: I didn't know that calling people (or statements made by people, whatever) 'unbelievably dumb' recently became acceptable discourse on this list. I guessed I missed that memo. -mm www.mattmitchell.us Download and listen to free music, sign the guestbook, read the blog! --Boundary_(ID_dmzRZIH57E93WdmXm8Sdxw)-- From ???@??? 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Wed Jan 19 20:21:07 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33963-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 15:21:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 19 Jan 2005 15:21:07 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 16316 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 19 Jan 2005 20:20:47 +0000 Received: (qmail 16305 invoked from network); Wed, 19 Jan 2005 20:20:46 +0000 Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 15:20:42 -0500 From: vze26m98 <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Adorno redux In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <r02010400-1035-980AEE006A5711D98BBE000D932C0D78@[67.84.254.108]> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mailsmith 2.1.4 (Blindsider) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Kim Cascone wrote on 1/19/05: >while I don't necessarily agree with Adorno's stance on Jazz What Adorno was listening to in Germany we'd hardly recognize as Jazz. Hyper-inflation in post-war Germany had generally kept America bands and recordings out of the country, except for a quick appearance by Sam Wooding's Orchestra as part of the "Chocolate Kiddies'" review. Wooding was cut from the James Reese Europe school of "jazz" music, which had more to do with Vernon and Irene Castle than King Oliver. If you give a listen to Dajos Bela, or the Erik Wenskat-Ochester, you'll find the music to be largely the gypsy influenced pop music of the day with the lead violin traded in for a saxophone... Best, Tad <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Jan 19 19:30:08 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33962-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 14:30:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 19 Jan 2005 14:30:08 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 93127 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 19 Jan 2005 19:29:41 +0000 Received: (qmail 93084 invoked from network); Wed, 19 Jan 2005 19:29:40 +0000 Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 12:27:43 -0700 From: John Hopkins <xxxxxxxx@xxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Adorno redux In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-Sender: john.hopkins%xxxxxxxx.xx@xxx.xxxxxxxxxxx.xx To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <a06100503be14650e38b3@[192.168.0.4]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > >Lastly, not only is electronic music dead but maybe post-modernism >needs a funeral too? Po-Mo was still-born in 1985... jh --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Jan 19 18:26:01 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33961-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.83]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 13:26:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 19 Jan 2005 13:26:01 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 62776 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 19 Jan 2005 18:25:44 +0000 Received: (qmail 62766 invoked from network); Wed, 19 Jan 2005 18:25:43 +0000 Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 10:25:41 -0800 (PST) From: jeff gburek <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Adorno redux In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=jNlOA4yRusc8LqwYBe/tXApLMC74PQie8/Ylvwrd/6VhXDMs/np+Aajza8YRVUDYmmHiwRhgSBuwsTw11dqHsOUfvsQ/VdaXaENJXN06gB32qJ/hYqgN6bNPQVrxa4tyVVZ4pMC7lX+yVOri7sizrf1Dr9mYw3T4sMeJCBUkLKk= ; X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx been sprinkling sand over it when i pass by... --- Kim Cascone <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote: > > Its nice to see some kind of defense of poor old > Adorno on this list. > > I second this and feel that Adorno's crit of the > culture industry is > spot on - even more so today...while I don't > necessarily agree with > Adorno's stance on Jazz (yet I came to appreciate > dodecaphonic music in > a new way thru his writings) I do see some validity > in what he is > trying to express on that subject...and I also agree > with Bill's > comment(s): "Adorno was rather looking at culture > after industrial > capitalism to interrogate its most degrading > aspects." And while some > people dismiss Adorno as a old school Marxist > cultural curmudgeon (who > couldn't dance) I see most current (mis)readings of > his work as simply > privileged and bourgeois. I think Adorno is very > much needed in these > times. > Also, reading the Situationists work a little closer > might reveal some > irony a filter-feeding first reading at Uni might > miss. > Lastly, not only is electronic music dead but maybe > post-modernism > needs a funeral too? > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! 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Wed Jan 19 17:20:36 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33958-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 12:20:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 19 Jan 2005 12:20:36 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 20729 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 19 Jan 2005 17:20:09 +0000 Received: (qmail 20719 invoked from network); Wed, 19 Jan 2005 17:20:09 +0000 Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 12:33:32 -0500 From: john saylor <xx@xxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] [ot] 1983 pix of Bill Gates in Teen Beat magazine [Now with link!] In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>, Phil Thomson <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx hi ( 05.01.18 22:29 -0800 ) Phil Thomson: > http://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=272750&st=0&#entry585309992 my 11 year old daughter gets some magazines like this and i recently saw bill grace their pages once again. in the photo, he's looking directly at the tits of some starlet who's walking in front of him. and he has this huge grin on his face ... -- \js *'-?([<}+ }}&$| ">[=$http://or8.net/~john iraq body count: 15,365 [min] 17,582 [max] --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Jan 19 17:11:09 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33956-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.112]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 12:11:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 19 Jan 2005 12:11:09 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 11681 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 19 Jan 2005 17:09:57 +0000 Received: (qmail 11627 invoked from network); Wed, 19 Jan 2005 17:09:55 +0000 Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 09:08:58 -0800 (PST) From: jeff gburek <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] essay on TWiki site In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>, Bill Ashline <xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=cyTVJyXdACDOWomLzl8EaLwyhh6sW9sptbZspsSkOhdTevf/OOhtZmlXE5O/JqC7w4gGyI2Bp/eU3+xGtOMIDFxb25Y6caAG6Ifu5zH4DIAPnDYBwfniT3t3q+bYC1x1KzULUs0+jrI5B50BGKrr9o41Pnh7JuCL7dWSRP/5qyM= ; X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx If anything, Adorno was overly sensitive > to the degrading > cultural conditions that produced the Nazis, which > is why he was wrong > about jazz. i wonder, bill, if this is the problem with those who read their adorno and write with it in mind, rather than write/work against it as much as they write/work against the dominating culture (can we speak of counter-culture heroism, a kind of follow the leader dynamic even if attentions are best yet not idiotic enough?---the tendency to conflate all dominant culture with the nazist, when the conditions we live in are quite different. the shadow of newer evils is falling over us. if the corruption of mind control is written in at the level of the syllable and the sentence, at the determination/delimitation of an object...i do not say it is impossible to criticize, but that the critique must be supsicious of its own exertions...all writing is always written in a different context than when it is read... --- Bill Ashline <xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> wrote: > On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 14:38:55 -0500, Matthew Mitchell > <xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote: > > > > In those Adorno quotes, there's certainly a > persistence of attempts to > > present as fact something that is essentially a > matter of personal taste, which > > is ultimately what makes music criticism so > suspect. > > No. There's an attempt to read music according to > its unquestioned > ideological alignments. Adorno was far too subtle > to simply look for > a justification for his own tastes. that would be > an unbelievably > dumb reading of Adorno. Adorno was rather looking > at culture after > industrial capitalism to interrogate its most > degrading aspects. > We're not talking Stanley Crouch here--we're talking > a stellar social > thinker forced into exile during the period of Nazi > control of > Germany. If anything, Adorno was overly sensitive > to the degrading > cultural conditions that produced the Nazis, which > is why he was wrong > about jazz. But he wasn't necessarily wrong about > certain aspects of > popular culture. It's easy to forget that jazz was > a popular form, > perhaps the preeminent one, when Adorno and > Horkheimer wrote the > Dialectic of Enlightenment. > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? All your favorites on one personal page – Try My Yahoo! http://my.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Jan 19 17:18:39 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33957-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.82]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 12:18:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 19 Jan 2005 12:18:39 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 18295 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 19 Jan 2005 17:18:17 +0000 Received: (qmail 18284 invoked from network); Wed, 19 Jan 2005 17:18:17 +0000 Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 08:51:34 -0800 From: Kim Cascone <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Adorno redux To: microsound_list <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Loop-Detect: 1 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > Its nice to see some kind of defense of poor old Adorno on this list. I second this and feel that Adorno's crit of the culture industry is spot on - even more so today...while I don't necessarily agree with Adorno's stance on Jazz (yet I came to appreciate dodecaphonic music in a new way thru his writings) I do see some validity in what he is trying to express on that subject...and I also agree with Bill's comment(s): "Adorno was rather looking at culture after industrial capitalism to interrogate its most degrading aspects." And while some people dismiss Adorno as a old school Marxist cultural curmudgeon (who couldn't dance) I see most current (mis)readings of his work as simply privileged and bourgeois. I think Adorno is very much needed in these times. Also, reading the Situationists work a little closer might reveal some irony a filter-feeding first reading at Uni might miss. Lastly, not only is electronic music dead but maybe post-modernism needs a funeral too? --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Jan 19 17:21:46 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33959-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.114]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 12:21:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 19 Jan 2005 12:21:45 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 22069 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 19 Jan 2005 17:21:41 +0000 Received: (qmail 22059 invoked from network); Wed, 19 Jan 2005 17:21:41 +0000 Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 17:48:48 +0100 From: Sergio Luque <xxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] pitchbend envelopes To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - yr1.hostingwired.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - hyperreal.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - sergioluque.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > I used to really enjoy the ability to draw pitchbend envelopes on > sound files of any length in Soundedit on the mac. Does anyone know > of a tool that has this functionality that runs on mac osx? SoundHack http://www.soundhack.com/freeware.php In the menu bar, go to: Hack > Phase Vocoder Click on: Pitch Scale, Scaling Function & Edit Function -- Sergio http://www.sergioluque.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Jan 19 17:41:43 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33960-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 12:41:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 19 Jan 2005 12:41:42 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 35379 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 19 Jan 2005 17:41:10 +0000 Received: (qmail 35368 invoked from network); Wed, 19 Jan 2005 17:41:10 +0000 Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 08:17:58 -0800 From: Galen Elfert <xxxxxxxx@xxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] Re: iTunes visualizer... In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i X-Virus-Scanned: by antibody.sfu.ca running antivirus scanner X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx It looks to me like the video equivalent of a filtered, fedback delay line. The previous frame is blurred, warped and dimmed and added to the current one. A great technique with sound too. Galen > > >anybody know any hard facts as to how this actually works=3F i mean, the > >waveform part is pretty obvious, but the damn thing never ceases to > >amaze me in terms of its interpretation of audio... i almost just want > >to put a video camera on the screen and shoot the whole thing live as a > >music video... > > > >g. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Jan 19 16:00:57 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33955-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 11:00:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 19 Jan 2005 11:00:57 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 7662 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 19 Jan 2005 16:00:39 +0000 Received: (qmail 7652 invoked from network); Wed, 19 Jan 2005 16:00:38 +0000 Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 08:00:32 -0800 (PST) From: jeff gburek <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] essay on TWiki site In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=tQYx/wrgfmzEOIkQQFDz2SaS4NO5KzhllDMLAV76Wj73++IbKkSsznevuI29vUHHfaC1FCVBA0wKqAPQ7IvNXr/6QmjenXizSL49TIHZD/yZ578H5UcZCWqY3icJ+w1NTKpv7RxZsGKJirzHBS7Cfw3wvVwJXMXWbPv6uOR/yfQ= ; X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx i'd like to rephrase for my own purposes: it's nice to see somebody willing to attack dominant poop-culture calcifications and under-lid stys to permit/inspire more freedom of thought and actions. the adorno paradigm is a bit predominant in academia (a tribute to its viral stamina) but the relative flexibility of sphincters is a question of input/output dynamics, is it not? muscle as metaphor. joyce showed the mind to be an intestine. a useless organ if you eat only sugar. nietzchean ruminance. is that anachronistic? from a century when there was time to think? adorno needs to be in the high schools where the image/information structuring most thoughtlessly begins. but for the rest of life a thinking less dreary would be more enabling, i have humbly found, after years of critiquing into my empty echoing head --- Peter Price <xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote: > Its nice to see some kind of defense of poor old > Adorno on this list. > > I for one would like to see a better critique of > Adorno than "he > probably couldn't dance." > > I suspect something like > > http://www2.rz.hu-berlin.de/fpm/texte/adorno.htm > > is more relevant now in the age of global > entertainment than at the > time it was written. > > Does anyone one have a better critique than that he > had a tight > sphincter? > ? > > > On Tuesday, January 18, 2005, at 09:56 PM, Bill > Ashline wrote: > > > From: Bill Ashline <xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> > > Date: Tue Jan 18, 2005 9:56:27 PM US/Eastern > > To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> > > Subject: Re: [microsound] essay on TWiki site > > Reply-To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> > > Reply-To: Bill Ashline <xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> > > > > On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 14:38:55 -0500, Matthew > Mitchell > > <xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote: > >> > >> In those Adorno quotes, there's certainly a > persistence of attempts to > >> present as fact something that is essentially a > matter of personal > >> taste, which > >> is ultimately what makes music criticism so > suspect. > > > > No. There's an attempt to read music according to > its unquestioned > > ideological alignments. Adorno was far too subtle > to simply look for > > a justification for his own tastes. that would be > an unbelievably > > dumb reading of Adorno. Adorno was rather looking > at culture after > > industrial capitalism to interrogate its most > degrading aspects. > > We're not talking Stanley Crouch here--we're > talking a stellar social > > thinker forced into exile during the period of > Nazi control of > > Germany. If anything, Adorno was overly sensitive > to the degrading > > cultural conditions that produced the Nazis, which > is why he was wrong > > about jazz. But he wasn't necessarily wrong about > certain aspects of > > popular culture. It's easy to forget that jazz > was a popular form, > > perhaps the preeminent one, when Adorno and > Horkheimer wrote the > > Dialectic of Enlightenment. > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > For additional commands, e-mail: > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > website: http://www.microsound.org > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! 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Wed Jan 19 15:36:04 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33954-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 10:36:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 19 Jan 2005 10:36:04 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 94442 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 19 Jan 2005 15:35:36 +0000 Received: (qmail 94431 invoked from network); Wed, 19 Jan 2005 15:35:35 +0000 Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 10:35:34 -0500 (EST) From: monotonaut <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] Re: Broken Sleep -German tour dates In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx confirmed: wednesday february 2 in ulm @hansen added: sunday february 6 in frankfurt @tanshaus west promoter & venue info: http://experimentalelektronik.de --- monotonaut <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx> wrote: > wednesday january 26 > ravensburg @spa > w/ phantastic pubbah and assymetric bandit > > friday january 28 > hamburg @hoer bar > > wednesday february 2 > ulm @hansen (tbc) > > friday february 4 > rostock on the stubnitz > (illbient floor w/ trouble clef, tzii, gamaboy, > v.dma, > no name project; drill, noise, breakcore, noisecore > floor: deadman, fuel in sekt, alesh trash, surbont, > tambour major) > > saturday february 5 > dresden @az conni > mp3 links- http://freewebs.com/brokensleep > > Broken Sleep is the dark, abstract dronescape .... ===== http://freewebs.com/brokensleep __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. So do we. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Jan 19 13:57:35 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33953-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 08:57:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 19 Jan 2005 08:57:34 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 50319 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 19 Jan 2005 13:57:09 +0000 Received: (qmail 50301 invoked from network); Wed, 19 Jan 2005 13:57:09 +0000 Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 09:13:32 -0500 From: chthonic streams <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Death of electronic music (disco reflections) In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-Sender: chthonic%xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxx.xxxxxxxxxx.xxx To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <p05210600be141a18e96f@[64.63.223.176]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >Hmm, so would you say New Order is "Intelligent Dance Music"? :) bingo! what other dance music has lyrics that ponder staying in rather than going out, consider one's true nature versus the image everyone else sees, or are so arrestingly vague you're left wondering about them long after the song's stopped playing? and unlike most of what is called IDM, you can actually dance to it. > > Subject: Re: [microsound] Death of electronic music (disco reflections) >> Message-Id: <p05210600be11ce450eea@[64.63.223.128]> >> >> >One thing about the electronic music in discos and other clubs: They >> >are not meant to reflect our time >and future. Or help us understand >> >something deeper about those issues. It is pure entertainment. >> >> there are exceptions of course. the main one coming to mind being new >> order. >> > > d. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Jan 19 11:20:33 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33952-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.109]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 06:20:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 19 Jan 2005 06:20:33 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 98793 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 19 Jan 2005 11:20:13 +0000 Received: (qmail 98778 invoked from network); Wed, 19 Jan 2005 11:20:11 +0000 Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 12:09:34 +0100 From: th_ost <xxxxxx@xxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] pitchbend envelopes To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <001101c4fe17$5c556620$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_MRaW/kvTQGGT96fhe3HnQg)" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Authenticated: #3048294 X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> <a05200f01be13a3711464@[192.168.0.100]> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_MRaW/kvTQGGT96fhe3HnQg) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit you could also do this with cecilia i guess: https://sourceforge.net/projects/cecilia/ this has different moduls - from pitch-shift/time stretch to granular and fft. certain parameters like overall length, volume, etc. are set with sliders, the rest is done by drawing graphs along an xy matrix... the data is then send to csound to be calculated. great soundqual imho, and the "non-realtime, graph approach is really great to work out detailed morphs/modulation, etc. windoze version here: http://music.ucdavis.edu/re4m/cecilia/ lunix: is available at above sourceforge link (no, i am not getting paid, but i love this prog....:) shitchpifting agogo., th_ost °°° th_ost: tomoroh hidari_oliver stummer acronymic symbiosis of alter & ego http://www.tomoroh.com/ http://www.stiege44.com/ xxxxxx@xxx.xxx ay, sigue:56825202 >> we gonna fight for your right to apathy... << °°°°° --Boundary_(ID_MRaW/kvTQGGT96fhe3HnQg)-- From ???@??? Wed Jan 19 10:21:52 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33951-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.82]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 05:21:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 19 Jan 2005 05:21:52 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 78041 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 19 Jan 2005 10:21:32 +0000 Received: (qmail 78030 invoked from network); Wed, 19 Jan 2005 10:21:32 +0000 Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 10:21:30 +0000 From: autistici <xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] new autistici web-site To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <002e01c4fe10$a5735f30$xxxxxxxx@xxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_7iok6ppw9SjlPhYc4WhsWQ)" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_7iok6ppw9SjlPhYc4WhsWQ) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit hi list i have a fascination with abstract micro-sounds, ambience and near silence i would like to extend an invitation to visit my new web-site you will find 8 mp3 tracks free to download and some relevant information/links would value feedback + happy to engage in discussions _/| www.autistici.com |\_ _/| abstract ambience :: broken space |\_ --Boundary_(ID_7iok6ppw9SjlPhYc4WhsWQ)-- From ???@??? Wed Jan 19 06:29:54 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33950-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.113]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 01:29:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 19 Jan 2005 01:29:54 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 7118 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 19 Jan 2005 06:29:30 +0000 Received: (qmail 7056 invoked from network); Wed, 19 Jan 2005 06:29:30 +0000 Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 22:29:24 -0800 From: Phil Thomson <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] [ot] 1983 pix of Bill Gates in Teen Beat magazine [Now with link!] In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: Phil Thomson <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=scE4savi6zTQkHc8bJFPx+Ruv0ceSQR1nV0RsnAYMuHERZ8lLAyQgCjnzCxmC3jYA5OSEVlkcwZcLy30eaZZ7J41inC3sxhUvxW9fgwDjw8aowEjukZQMPO0Ah3KCIV1gUbkcrAR+mT3UcemOYwSNhn165HmrOwAcKMQaKheDYE= X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Duh. http://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=272750&st=0&#entry585309992 On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 21:36:49 -0800 (PST), Brian Klein wrote: > you forgot to paste the link here. > > > --- Phil Thomson <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> wrote: > > > Warning: These images may be intensely disturbing to > > users of Linux or > > other non-Windows operating systems. Viewer > > discretion is advised. > > > > Phil > > > > > > -- > > Phil Thomson > > xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx > > > > { home: http://www.sfu.ca/~pthomson/ > > { blog: http://www.bloglines.com/blog/PhilThomson > > { label: http://centibel.org/ > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > For additional commands, e-mail: > > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > website: http://www.microsound.org > > > > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail - now with 250MB free storage. Learn more. > http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 > -- Phil Thomson xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx { home: http://www.sfu.ca/~pthomson/ { blog: http://www.bloglines.com/blog/PhilThomson { label: http://centibel.org/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Jan 19 05:44:16 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33949-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.112]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 00:44:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 19 Jan 2005 00:44:16 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 91458 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 19 Jan 2005 05:43:28 +0000 Received: (qmail 91436 invoked from network); Wed, 19 Jan 2005 05:43:27 +0000 Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 16:43:20 +1100 From: Steve Adam <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] pitchbend envelopes In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-Sender: xxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx.xx To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <a05200f01be13a3711464@[192.168.0.100]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >I used to really enjoy the ability to draw pitchbend envelopes on >sound files of any length in Soundedit on the mac. Does anyone know >of a tool that has this functionality that runs on mac osx? Thanks SoundHack can do something along these lines with its Varispeed function and it is free: http://www.soundhack.com/freeware.php S. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Jan 19 04:34:54 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33948-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 23:34:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 18 Jan 2005 23:34:54 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 68500 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 19 Jan 2005 04:34:44 +0000 Received: (qmail 68488 invoked from network); Wed, 19 Jan 2005 04:34:44 +0000 Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 23:34:38 -0500 From: Peter Price <xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] essay on TWiki site In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.552) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Its nice to see some kind of defense of poor old Adorno on this list. I for one would like to see a better critique of Adorno than "he probably couldn't dance." I suspect something like http://www2.rz.hu-berlin.de/fpm/texte/adorno.htm is more relevant now in the age of global entertainment than at the time it was written. Does anyone one have a better critique than that he had a tight sphincter? ? On Tuesday, January 18, 2005, at 09:56 PM, Bill Ashline wrote: > From: Bill Ashline <xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> > Date: Tue Jan 18, 2005 9:56:27 PM US/Eastern > To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> > Subject: Re: [microsound] essay on TWiki site > Reply-To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> > Reply-To: Bill Ashline <xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> > > On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 14:38:55 -0500, Matthew Mitchell > <xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote: >> >> In those Adorno quotes, there's certainly a persistence of attempts to >> present as fact something that is essentially a matter of personal >> taste, which >> is ultimately what makes music criticism so suspect. > > No. There's an attempt to read music according to its unquestioned > ideological alignments. Adorno was far too subtle to simply look for > a justification for his own tastes. that would be an unbelievably > dumb reading of Adorno. Adorno was rather looking at culture after > industrial capitalism to interrogate its most degrading aspects. > We're not talking Stanley Crouch here--we're talking a stellar social > thinker forced into exile during the period of Nazi control of > Germany. If anything, Adorno was overly sensitive to the degrading > cultural conditions that produced the Nazis, which is why he was wrong > about jazz. But he wasn't necessarily wrong about certain aspects of > popular culture. It's easy to forget that jazz was a popular form, > perhaps the preeminent one, when Adorno and Horkheimer wrote the > Dialectic of Enlightenment. > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Jan 19 02:56:36 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33947-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 21:56:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 18 Jan 2005 21:56:36 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 31007 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 19 Jan 2005 02:56:32 +0000 Received: (qmail 30995 invoked from network); Wed, 19 Jan 2005 02:56:31 +0000 Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 11:56:27 +0900 From: Bill Ashline <xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] essay on TWiki site In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: Bill Ashline <xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=WTbvRrO5w6COWfip7h1kKp7DEo0i6HaFlvxC6hD8bTa9VJNbmTIy425HfsS0xYsMilsw1fAocP/cyEHHzWY4XXx9i8HBazpZoOLPRNctw7ZO8UgUo5U8Arj292DG+/tNj5G0conI9Cgd8CmWLxMLzNbfogSldpo7RXOebI2kfhQ= X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 14:38:55 -0500, Matthew Mitchell <xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote: > > In those Adorno quotes, there's certainly a persistence of attempts to > present as fact something that is essentially a matter of personal taste, which > is ultimately what makes music criticism so suspect. No. There's an attempt to read music according to its unquestioned ideological alignments. Adorno was far too subtle to simply look for a justification for his own tastes. that would be an unbelievably dumb reading of Adorno. Adorno was rather looking at culture after industrial capitalism to interrogate its most degrading aspects. We're not talking Stanley Crouch here--we're talking a stellar social thinker forced into exile during the period of Nazi control of Germany. If anything, Adorno was overly sensitive to the degrading cultural conditions that produced the Nazis, which is why he was wrong about jazz. But he wasn't necessarily wrong about certain aspects of popular culture. It's easy to forget that jazz was a popular form, perhaps the preeminent one, when Adorno and Horkheimer wrote the Dialectic of Enlightenment. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Jan 19 02:52:19 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33946-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 21:52:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 18 Jan 2005 21:52:18 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 28158 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 19 Jan 2005 02:52:14 +0000 Received: (qmail 28147 invoked from network); Wed, 19 Jan 2005 02:52:14 +0000 Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 18:52:09 -0800 From: Phil Thomson <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] [ot] 1983 pix of Bill Gates in Teen Beat magazine To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: Phil Thomson <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=HmHXMBMICBT88qT/XwVtqjkdDXoBwaHK5ukRbi9oBIXXQSIXBdjlWOGwTpKKqK5J3HmBpbe8p5eth0IP4tXNdkCj6s9LqF4VfHCYCCaWrArv3b0hh2reT7gqOkGPYXw1jvnUVpbu3fExtXFa6u3dFU0+tXbzhORpLMpmShFBtWM= X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Warning: These images may be intensely disturbing to users of Linux or other non-Windows operating systems. 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Tue Jan 18 20:57:26 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33944-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 15:57:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 18 Jan 2005 15:57:25 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 60491 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 18 Jan 2005 20:57:12 +0000 Received: (qmail 60479 invoked from network); Tue, 18 Jan 2005 20:57:12 +0000 Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 15:58:23 -0500 From: Mike Hansen <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] CKLN FM's Whynot Jazz playlist for January 5, 2005 To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.553) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > Dear Artist and Label > > Welcome to the radio program Whynot Jazz on Toronto's CKLN FM 88.1. > Heard Every Wednesday Morning from 7am-11am est, 1pm thru most of > Europe and noon in the UK. Available around the world at: > > www.ckln.fm > > Here is the playlist from the last Whynot Jazz Program. Please note > that radio program, hosted by Mike Hansen, takes an outside > examination of new improvised and jazz musics. Whynotjazz is one of > the very few voices for progessive new music heard in Toronto or > around the world. > > This week's show featured the Top 10 of the year, Honourable mentions > and new titles to look out for. > > Why Not? > 2005/01/05 > > > Artist > Song Title > Album Title > Label > > > Axel Dorner/Tony Buck > Durch and Durch > Durch and Durch > Vitamin Records > > > > Beins/Marwedel/Vorfeld > Pump > Misiiki > Rossbin Productions > > > > John Tilbury/Eddie Prevost > S > Discrete Moments > Matchless Recordings > > > > Brodie West/Han Bennink > Berlin Bob > Brodie and Han > independent > > > > Koch/Schutz/Studer > The Whispering and Hammer Ritual > Life Tied > Intakt Records > > > > Iks > Desert Flowers > Abstr cncr > Ora > Records > > > > Birgit Ulher/Ernst Thoma > Orangered > Slants > Unit Records > > > > Wolfgang Mitterer > Radio Fractal Part 1 > Radio Fractal/Beat Music > Hathut Records > > > > Nilsson Sandell duo > Strings and Densities > Strings and Objects > LJ Records > > > > Smash and Teeny > Kite storm Warning > Gathering > Spool Records > > > > Nilan Perera > Specious Post Literate > Harmless Love > independent > > > > Pau Torres > Lot Old Radio > My Wrong Mood > Testing Ground Records > > > > Cremaster > 6 > Flysch > G3G Records > > > > Lee Renaldo/Dave Dyment > Fire 2 > New Life After Fire > Art Metropole > > > > Stars Like Fleas > I've Pumped Your Stomach and Broken Through Your Skin > Sun Lights Down on the Fence > Praemedia > > > > Mimeo > cd 1 part 1 > Lifting Concrete Lightly > Serpentine Gallery > > > > M. 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Keep Listening > > > Thanks > Mike > > > Mike Hansen > CKLN FM 88.1 > Whynot Jazz Program > 79 Benson Ave. > Toronto,On > Canada > M6G 2H7 > xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Jan 18 19:18:29 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33943-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 14:18:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 18 Jan 2005 14:18:29 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 9596 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 18 Jan 2005 19:18:08 +0000 Received: (qmail 9583 invoked from network); Tue, 18 Jan 2005 19:18:06 +0000 Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 20:17:08 +0100 From: Kassen <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] pitchbend envelopes To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <007301c4fd92$53afcfe0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > I used to really enjoy the ability to draw pitchbend envelopes on sound > files of any length in Soundedit on the mac. Does anyone know of a tool > that has this functionality that runs on mac osx? Thanks Ableton Live can do that. The good bit is that the time streching is granular there and you get to modulate the settings of the algorithem with envelopes over the whole file too. Sadly the free demo can´t save (I think) or render to disk (sure about that one) but you could just record the output. Try it Kas --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Jan 18 19:11:53 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33942-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.83]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 14:11:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 18 Jan 2005 14:11:53 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 3009 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 18 Jan 2005 19:11:34 +0000 Received: (qmail 2999 invoked from network); Tue, 18 Jan 2005 19:11:33 +0000 Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 11:07:30 -0800 From: Richard Zvonar <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] pitchbend envelopes In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <p06200708be130ee18a9b@[192.168.0.3]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx At 1:53 PM -0500 1/18/05, Peter Price wrote: >I used to really enjoy the ability to draw pitchbend envelopes on >sound files of any length in Soundedit on the mac. Does anyone know >of a tool that has this functionality that runs on mac osx? Thanks Speed from SoundToys (RTAS only). -- ______________________________________________________________ Richard Zvonar, PhD (818) 788-2202 http://www.zvonar.com http://salamandersongs.com http://ill-wind.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Jan 18 18:53:38 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33941-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 13:53:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 18 Jan 2005 13:53:37 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 92074 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 18 Jan 2005 18:53:13 +0000 Received: (qmail 92064 invoked from network); Tue, 18 Jan 2005 18:53:13 +0000 Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 13:53:10 -0500 From: Peter Price <xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] pitchbend envelopes In-reply-to: <20050117.174846.2716.1.xxxxx@xxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.552) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx I used to really enjoy the ability to draw pitchbend envelopes on sound files of any length in Soundedit on the mac. Does anyone know of a tool that has this functionality that runs on mac osx? Thanks --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Jan 18 15:52:17 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33940-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 10:52:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 18 Jan 2005 10:52:16 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 557 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 18 Jan 2005 15:52:12 +0000 Received: (qmail 501 invoked from network); Tue, 18 Jan 2005 15:52:11 +0000 Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 07:52:09 -0800 From: Phil Thomson <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Hit Song Science To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: Phil Thomson <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=UIuUnP/wFRKNxEXk1mJMqvY3FHy5nEPQ4yVaBn47X31Lv24dW2OJmfA3COMrcTx0S32BL3Cl57vGFzkKrm0hmSYLvuHUVpCpRk1Si9vP3PN0Nhg4W0tfa+ZI1kKRDf9LzLDGk3zqQ/62LR5ZaoMiAmFyrO/WL+afoTw0Wx55fSY= X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Keywords: AI, hit song selection, automation of taste http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/01/18/1329238 -- Phil Thomson xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx { home: http://www.sfu.ca/~pthomson/ { blog: http://www.bloglines.com/blog/PhilThomson { label: http://centibel.org/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Jan 18 15:51:05 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33939-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 10:51:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 18 Jan 2005 10:51:05 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 99151 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 18 Jan 2005 15:50:54 +0000 Received: (qmail 99141 invoked from network); Tue, 18 Jan 2005 15:50:53 +0000 Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 15:50:46 +0000 From: David William Newman <xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx.xx> Subject: [microsound] Re: Death of electronic music (disco reflections) In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxx-xxxxxx-xx@xxxxxxx.xx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Remote_Addr: 213.121.212.121 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx I don't believe its useful to generalize or categorise the meaning or depth of any piece of music based on genre alone.... Any track has the potential to move people, to offer insight or reflection.... all released music connects deeply with some-people somewhere.... Sitting in isolation and saying this track is art or meaningful and this track is not appears like misplaced omnipotence to me.... I believe it is all relative and all subjective.... Electronic dance music has the potential to tap into people's desires to be social, to move, to flirt and fall in love to share an experience.... There is often social commentary in there too.... even hedonistic desires and a celebration of material or bling culture are a valid reflection of parts of the human experience. Intelligent Dance Music = music for the head more than the feet. It provides a format that works for those who are not in the disco and require a less repetitive stimuli to focus their experience on the audio. Dance music is never going to die.... its too tied in with primitive basic human desires (the beat of the heart (120-160 bpm), the need to socialise, the need to find a sexual partner). People have always danced :) xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx writes: > Hmm, so would you say New Order is "Intelligent Dance Music"? :) > >> Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 15:20:17 -0500 >> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> >> From: chthonic streams <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> >> Subject: Re: [microsound] Death of electronic music (disco reflections) >> Message-Id: <p05210600be11ce450eea@[64.63.223.128]> >> >> >One thing about the electronic music in discos and other clubs: They >> >are not meant to reflect our time >and future. Or help us understand >> >something deeper about those issues. It is pure entertainment. >> >> there are exceptions of course. the main one coming to mind being new >> order. >> >> d. >> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Jan 18 15:31:56 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33938-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 10:31:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 18 Jan 2005 10:31:56 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 90871 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 18 Jan 2005 15:31:52 +0000 Received: (qmail 90861 invoked from network); Tue, 18 Jan 2005 15:31:52 +0000 Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 10:31:50 -0500 From: xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx Subject: Re: [microsound] Death of electronic music (disco reflections) In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME::Lite 1.5 (F2.73; T1.001; A1.64; B3.05; Q3.03) Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Sasl-Enc: OFrJ2sGrEm3mmAIRi90LnA 1106062310 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Hmm, so would you say New Order is "Intelligent Dance Music"? :) > Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 15:20:17 -0500 > To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> > From: chthonic streams <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> > Subject: Re: [microsound] Death of electronic music (disco reflections) > Message-Id: <p05210600be11ce450eea@[64.63.223.128]> > > >One thing about the electronic music in discos and other clubs: They > >are not meant to reflect our time >and future. Or help us understand > >something deeper about those issues. It is pure entertainment. > > there are exceptions of course. the main one coming to mind being new > order. > > d. > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Jan 18 15:14:59 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33937-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.110]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 10:14:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 18 Jan 2005 10:14:58 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 83179 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 18 Jan 2005 15:14:54 +0000 Received: (qmail 83168 invoked from network); Tue, 18 Jan 2005 15:14:54 +0000 Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 07:14:52 -0800 (PST) From: jeff gburek <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] -help In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm Comment: DomainKeys? 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Tue Jan 18 15:11:08 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33936-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.109]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 10:11:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 18 Jan 2005 10:11:08 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 81653 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 18 Jan 2005 15:11:04 +0000 Received: (qmail 81643 invoked from network); Tue, 18 Jan 2005 15:11:03 +0000 Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 07:11:01 -0800 (PST) From: jeff gburek <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] -help In-reply-to: <BE10E11C.4660%xxxxx@xxxxx.xx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=Th29jFS0+WOq9YibnCcsQvlgjFpTfbQu3PYwLswju02FD613HYhl1O42joxbD/2LhLboj5BStA515sd75k7BJPpsK/VGfmC69oP1EBDIkciEs4mGyDMSnZuCdA9/H4hTlXvX6w8tdRbKfSM5SrGKv36jDjO7rgaFFIhnxOJGJlM= ; X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Dear Sofus, on this note, of sense from no sense, i'd like to introduce myself to you. my name given me is jeff gburek. i am new to microsound list but very inspired by the ideas and processes in play and i am soon to be in denmark. i come with my project with a dancer see, www.djalma.com if you would like to hear some music samples, try this site for mp3: http://artists.iuma.com/IUMA/Bands/Jeff_Gburek/ it's a strange, ready-made kind of site, but it's free for use. make sure to take most recent sounds...some are quite old and i will be taking those down. i use e.gitarre through signal processing + musique conccrete... We have a teaching gig and a performance in Copenhagen and we are trying to find other ways to extend the stay in the DEnmark. Do you have any performance venues in Aarhus we might approach? Maybe we can collaborate on a show? WE are open to explorinbg possibilities. We are coming to stay either in Berlin or Amsterdam or Paris, depends on what happens in the organizing. I hope to hear from you! best, Jeff Gburek erg <xxxxx@xxxxx.xx> wrote: > when in doubt - make no sense > > > -help > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > For additional commands, e-mail: > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > website: http://www.microsound.org > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! 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Tue Jan 18 11:50:30 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33935-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.114]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 06:50:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 18 Jan 2005 06:50:30 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 34849 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 18 Jan 2005 11:50:26 +0000 Received: (qmail 34838 invoked from network); Tue, 18 Jan 2005 11:50:25 +0000 Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 12:51:04 +0100 From: Davide Morelli <xxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] event pro UNICEF - call for partecipation To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <004f01c4fd54$03caf790$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 Content-type: text/plain; reply-type=original; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx hi all, here in Livorno (near Pisa and Firenze, Tuscany, Italy) saturday 22 and sunday 23 at the "Fuoricentro" venue (center for artistic experimentation) we will organize a collection pro UNICEF. From 7.00pm to 2.00am there will be theatre, music, various live performances, etc... I would really love to set up a space dedicated to microsound music. Who wants her/his music to be played please contact me offlist with: - links to mp3 (as many as you want) - your name/nick, your song/piece name - a short description of your music (it will be displayed while your music played) optional: - curriculum vitae + a general (it must not be short) description of your compositional process (max 1 page, for a small self-made publication) We (me and Valerio Ianitto, Fuoricentro's booker) hope to receive a lot of answers as we would like to let our city know this movement. best regards, d --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Jan 18 09:32:38 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33934-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 04:32:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 18 Jan 2005 04:32:38 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 3664 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 18 Jan 2005 09:32:39 +0000 Received: (qmail 3652 invoked from network); Tue, 18 Jan 2005 09:32:39 +0000 Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 18:32:38 +0900 From: yosuke hayashi <xxxxx-xx@xxxxx.xx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] japanese music magazines? In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Virus-Status: clean(F-Secure/virusgw_smtp/206/mail) X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Hello, I like these magazines. http://www.bekkoame.ne.jp/ha/p-market/ http://afterhours.img8.com/ And This is the most recommendable one. Vol.3 and 4 are written in English and Japanese. http://www.slidelab.com/okfred.html best. > Might be worth checking The Illustrated Ape Japan Cult issue from > December - features Ryuichi Sakamoto amongst other stuff. > >>> >>> >>>> does anyone know of any good japanese music magazines that feature >>>> electronic artists? >>> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Jan 18 09:15:00 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33933-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.109]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 04:15:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 18 Jan 2005 04:15:00 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 254 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 18 Jan 2005 09:15:01 +0000 Received: (qmail 224 invoked from network); Tue, 18 Jan 2005 09:15:00 +0000 Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 18:14:58 +0900 From: yosuke hayashi <xxxxx-xx@xxxxx.xx.xx> Subject: [microsound] Re: microsound Digest 17 Jan 2005 22:20:16 -0000 Issue 1333 In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Virus-Status: clean(F-Secure/virusgw_smtp/206/mail) X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Hello, I like these magazines. http://www.bekkoame.ne.jp/ha/p-market/ http://afterhours.img8.com/ And This is the most recommendable one. Vol.3 and 4 are written in English and Japanese. http://www.slidelab.com/okfred.html best. > Might be worth checking The Illustrated Ape Japan Cult issue from > December - features Ryuichi Sakamoto amongst other stuff. > >>> >>> >>>> does anyone know of any good japanese music magazines that feature >>>> electronic artists? >>> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Jan 18 07:29:04 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33932-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 02:29:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 18 Jan 2005 02:29:03 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 75014 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 18 Jan 2005 07:29:04 +0000 Received: (qmail 75003 invoked from network); Tue, 18 Jan 2005 07:29:04 +0000 Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 02:28:51 -0500 (EST) From: xxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx Subject: [microsound] Re: call for demos To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5038 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_Zs0CGecSt9iWkSfwhKiGCw)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_Zs0CGecSt9iWkSfwhKiGCw) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Microsounders, John Gore here from Cohort Records. I"ve tried comps but can't seem to get enough tracks for one bloody CDR release. Or maybe it's the fact that it's a CDR. (If it is I'd appreciate the feedback on this issue since it's a major frigging time waster to go through this process every 6 months and have it fail). I don't know, but I'm going to try something else, a series of split CDRs, thirty minutes allocated for each artist, with two per release. Anyway, if you're interested in this project get in touch off list. But please, no mp3 files. I know it's a bit old fashioned but I want wave files. John http://cohortrecords.0catch.com --Boundary_(ID_Zs0CGecSt9iWkSfwhKiGCw)-- From ???@??? Tue Jan 18 06:52:48 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33931-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 01:52:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 18 Jan 2005 01:52:48 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 67443 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 18 Jan 2005 06:52:48 +0000 Received: (qmail 67433 invoked from network); Tue, 18 Jan 2005 06:52:48 +0000 Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 22:51:45 -0800 From: Bill Jarboe <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Death of electronic music In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-Originating-IP: 4.243.38.66 To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=simple; s=test1; d=earthlink.net; h=Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Message-Id:Content-Transfer-Encoding:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer; b=RAI7tB2XJFtpaHWhZ3+YfHpdbx0Th6vjSeR/HH9BpREfSPUENaxHUOwhprQelKKD; X-ELNK-Trace: f6dd78c2ac81c6498eb596e2db90c20d239a348a220c26092df9ee6998493571af9235c974db73202601a10902912494350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <BE11AAD5.2CB1%xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> <xxxxx.xx.xx.xxx.xxx.xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx On Jan 17, 2005, at 8:29 PM, John Nowak wrote: > > On Jan 17, 2005, at 7:23 PM, graham miller wrote: > >> as soon as music is recorded it becomes electronic music. anything >> music >> produced by a speaker is electronic music. > > Oh now now, let's not get anal about it... http://www.headheritage.co.uk/anal/ > - JN > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Jan 18 06:25:01 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33930-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 01:25:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 18 Jan 2005 01:25:01 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 61513 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 18 Jan 2005 06:24:49 +0000 Received: (qmail 61503 invoked from network); Tue, 18 Jan 2005 06:24:48 +0000 Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 22:24:43 -0800 (PST) From: jake elliott <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] ot new york city To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx hey new yorkers; i'll be in nyc this weekend (thu 1/20 to mon 1/24) - can anyone recommend any shows? i'm totally lost! thanks! jake --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Jan 18 06:13:19 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33929-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 01:13:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 18 Jan 2005 01:13:19 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 58291 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 18 Jan 2005 06:13:09 +0000 Received: (qmail 58281 invoked from network); Tue, 18 Jan 2005 06:13:08 +0000 Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 01:13:03 -0500 From: ndkent <xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] japanese music magazines? To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > does anyone know of any good japanese music magazines that feature > electronic artists? I think the audience for the subject gravitated online. As for print magazines my take is there are more sorts of art/design/style magazines that sort of touch the subject as a theme or something happening to cover. The other trend is a lot of these publications are very infrequent... the good example is the already mentioned is the bilingual ex-pat magazine OKFred. They'll do different theme issues and cover foreigners who are into Japanese pop culture. I don't know magazine history but I suspect Studio Voice was a cornerstone for that magazine genre. They focus on different theme issues with music as potential but not constant subject matter. Overall they would fall into the style magazine genre. Barfout is a well known music as style magazine Of more on-topic interest is the record buff oriented Marquee. I used to see Ele-king magazine filled with a lot of electronic music, but I've not seen one in a long time so I suspect it's no longer published. Remix Magazine (Japan) seems to just do standard club stuff. Studio and Recording Magazine seems to have long been the best music technology mag. A number of music technology magazines are out there. (Keyboard Japan for instance) That brings up something vaguely interesting. I'd think the DTM genre -Desktop Music - is sort of the antithesis of Microsound (or is it merely a hobby rather than a genre? though I'm sure to some that would be a put down). It's people using softsynths and MIDI modules to do tight programmed arrangements of commercial music. The obvious commercial outlet was game music and still is ringtone programming. While on the Japanese magazine subject, I'm always happy to hear about online sites that go deeper than reprinting press material and ad hoc reviews. nicholas d. kent http://www.technopop.info/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Jan 18 04:31:58 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33928-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.82]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 23:31:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 17 Jan 2005 23:31:58 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 37553 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 18 Jan 2005 04:31:55 +0000 Received: (qmail 37540 invoked from network); Tue, 18 Jan 2005 04:31:55 +0000 Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 23:31:48 -0500 From: John Nowak <xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Death of electronic music In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Or better yet, fuck talk, let's art? Not quite as catchy I suppose... But bloody hell, 99% of all music from any "genre" is crap. That's just how it goes. Go make something that isn't crap. That will help. *has a headache and can't waste any more time talking nonsense* - John On Jan 17, 2005, at 1:23 PM, Peter Price wrote: > well as Tobias said "Fuck Art, Let's Dance" > > > On Monday, January 17, 2005, at 11:48 AM, _dino lupelli_ wrote: > >> Crying for it: >> a lot of crap called electronic music (in discos of course) is >> killing the >> idea of something helpful to understand our times or future. >> >> Maybe is me bored by those things, maybe someone else agree. >> >> Dl --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Jan 18 04:29:40 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33927-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 23:29:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 17 Jan 2005 23:29:39 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 36076 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 18 Jan 2005 04:29:38 +0000 Received: (qmail 36066 invoked from network); Tue, 18 Jan 2005 04:29:38 +0000 Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 23:29:17 -0500 From: John Nowak <xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Death of electronic music In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <BE11AAD5.2CB1%xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> <xxxxx.xx.xx.xxx.xxx.xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx On Jan 17, 2005, at 7:23 PM, graham miller wrote: > as soon as music is recorded it becomes electronic music. anything > music > produced by a speaker is electronic music. Oh now now, let's not get anal about it... - JN --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Jan 18 04:13:00 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33926-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 23:13:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 17 Jan 2005 23:13:00 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 31341 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 18 Jan 2005 04:12:48 +0000 Received: (qmail 31331 invoked from network); Tue, 18 Jan 2005 04:12:48 +0000 Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 23:12:41 -0500 From: "Langel Janson L. Bookbinder Esq. IX" <xxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Death of electronic music (disco reflections) To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: "Langel Janson L. Bookbinder Esq. IX" <xxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <015b01c4fd13$f4f66190$xxxxxxxx@xxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - host68.ipowerweb.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - hyperreal.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - firteen.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <BE11A4C4.A8%xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx 80's detroit techno is lame i guess maybe that reflects the time > On 1/17/05 3:20 PM, "chthonic streams" <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote: > > >> One thing about the electronic music in discos and other clubs: They > >> are not meant to reflect our time >and future. Or help us understand > >> something deeper about those issues. It is pure entertainment. > > Not so sure that's necessarily always the case...What about 80's detroit > techno ? > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Jan 18 01:49:58 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33925-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.110]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 20:49:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 17 Jan 2005 20:49:58 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 91992 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 18 Jan 2005 01:49:54 +0000 Received: (qmail 91980 invoked from network); Tue, 18 Jan 2005 01:49:54 +0000 Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 17:48:45 -0800 From: xxxxx@xxxx.xxx Subject: [microsound] tops of 2004 and other news To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <20050117.174846.2716.1.xxxxx@xxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Juno 5.0.33 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_4SZCg67VtIy9gjN4SM3qpw)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-UNTD-OriginStamp: ymnrZTwhqAK9vTzSuWCxvWL1Yc1D1qYB2TewERMyU4bK6ikPHPZaqQ== X-ContentStamp: 13:6:2703450509 X-MAIL-INFO: 270509a181444d80cda5b195e93d70cd912920e0ada559e1d4c0b0e5edf991005975e030b400c9f055d0f0311165b45189a9b4b10454b140d9d18935609499ddd4c4217d74403d4534151580e59164ade170ade1a0e4e1f961c0f534c101810449e9d075a951fdb451fd3124fd6df4b06df4b4d4d4c4542130f4dd5d7d89e020f1a049f9c999f01961a4d0d040c114749d9d6071bd0d14b909d5 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_4SZCg67VtIy9gjN4SM3qpw) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello forever-dying and regenerating electronic musicians and other .micronauts, ;-) After being away from this list for a while, I'm not sure if anyone posted notice of the 2004 favorite lists page which has been up at the and/OAR site since the beginning of the year. I started doing this last year and it generated a lot of interest, so I thought I would try to do it every year. As indicated on the page, it will be updated as more lists arrive and I plan to keep the page up until around the end of February. If someone on a Mac with Internet Explorer can't access the text link on the main page, there's mention of the page with an image link at the a/O News page. I also wanted to mention that new additions have been coming into the a/O Diffusion page like: STEINBRÜCHEL: Skizzen (Bine Music) CIVYIU KKLIU: 111111 (Banned Productions) CHRISTOPHER DELAURENTI: Sand Point Sound Gazetteer (SPACE/VERGE) HACO: Stereo Bugscope 00 (Improvised Music Of Japan) ERNIE ALTHOFF: Heliosonics (NMA) YUKO NEXUS6: Translation Of Sightseeing (Onomato) ....with more on the way, so if you have time, please check it out. And I wanted to extend the news of the sad demise of S'agita Recordings (from Italy) that happened this month. http://www.logoplasm.org/sagita/ Over the years, they issued fine releases by artists such as Frans De Waard, Michael Northam, Entrelacs (Northam &Yannick Dauby), Mathieu Ruhlmann, Fhievel, Phil Thomsen, Alessandro Fogar, Murmer, their own logoplasm project, and several other Italian artists. They also kindly issued a release of mine back in 2003. For whatever reason they had to stop, I wish Paolo and Laura the best in all things in the road ahead! And best wishes to all this coming year. Dale Dale Lloyd: http://www.and-oar.org/dalelloyd.html and/OAR: http://www.and-oar.org/ NEW: Turba / Lateral Minor (Stasisfield.com) NEW: Volatile And Fixed Principles (leerraum) --Boundary_(ID_4SZCg67VtIy9gjN4SM3qpw)-- From ???@??? Tue Jan 18 01:20:13 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33924-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.112]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 20:20:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 17 Jan 2005 20:20:13 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 82646 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 18 Jan 2005 01:20:11 +0000 Received: (qmail 82633 invoked from network); Tue, 18 Jan 2005 01:20:10 +0000 Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 02:20:04 +0100 From: Jakob Riis <xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re(2): [microsound] Death of electronic music To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx@xxxx.xxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: CTM PowerMail version 5.1 build 4340 English <http://www.ctmdev.com> Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx mandag 17. januar 2005, kl. 21:27 +0100 , skrev chthonic streams: >la musique électronique est mort, vive la musique électronique! Mais oui, DACAPO!!!!!!!!: "elektronisk musik er død, elektronisk musik leve!" (undskyld mit dårlige dansk). Lad os feste, danse, kneppe og ud'art'e os......... tout le monde!!!!!!!, just for the ..*..*....*...... of it! (but puhleaze, no more Police.....) :- jDK --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Jan 18 01:18:31 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33923-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.83]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 20:18:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 17 Jan 2005 20:18:30 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 81466 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 18 Jan 2005 01:18:29 +0000 Received: (qmail 81456 invoked from network); Tue, 18 Jan 2005 01:18:29 +0000 Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 02:18:23 +0100 From: Jakob Riis <xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] iTunes visualizer... To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx@xxxx.xxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: CTM PowerMail version 5.1 build 4340 English <http://www.ctmdev.com> Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx I guess this is not official but it seems to me that the iTunes visualizer is no more than a licence of 'g-force'. maybe this isn't really 'news'. But anyhow, you can check it out here: <http:// www.soundspectrum.com/g-force/index.html>. You can even custumize 'g- force' with your own scripts <http://www.soundspectrum.com/g-force/ Documentation/customizing.html>. .-) jDK søndag 16. januar 2005, kl. 3:50 +0100 , skrev graham miller: >anybody know any hard facts as to how this actually works? i mean, the >waveform part is pretty obvious, but the damn thing never ceases to >amaze me in terms of its interpretation of audio... i almost just want >to put a video camera on the screen and shoot the whole thing live as a >music video... > >g. > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >website: http://www.microsound.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Jan 18 00:48:03 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33922-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 19:48:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 17 Jan 2005 19:48:02 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 69354 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 18 Jan 2005 00:47:55 +0000 Received: (qmail 69342 invoked from network); Tue, 18 Jan 2005 00:47:54 +0000 Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 16:47:49 -0800 From: Phil Thomson <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Re: WebHosts page on the Twiki In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: Phil Thomson <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=G9aTtEocYuBH9Nuj4uQQ+2wvjwovxo8K5CUxjwrajhbVwT9F/4LgS6899f7YQ2Uv9S9SUiu/18LVtHOSD0txLK6G/1prD7Pqz2K+Toien+Q4PGsiMOZIwP7xk1cHFXUWK7YAwxc+TUfM1WdLOjHuINw7edHCDg94ZWIMObFSLGM= X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Hi all, Thanks to those who posted info on web-hosting services on the Twiki. Those who have already, and those who are soon to post, please don't forget to include info on rates and bandwidth and so on. These are important factors in many people's decision to use one over another. Including mine. Phil On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 02:46:19 -0800, Phil Thomson <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> wrote: > Hi all, > > I am nearing the end of my MFA, and will soon no longer have access to > my SFU webspace and SSH account. I am in the market for a new place to > host my stuff, as well as just to be able to have access to a > filespace I can get to no matter where I am. Rather than post yet > another request for info on hosting services to the list, I have added > a page to the Twiki server with info on hosting services that would be > useful for microsound-ish purposes. > > Please add links to this page. I have already added some info and > links on a couple of free services (archive.org and scene.org), but > for my purposes, I will probably need a pay service, so I hope myself > and others can get useful info from this page once some links have > been added. > > Link to main page: http://microsound.nexthop.net/bin/view.cgi/Main/WebHome > > Link to new WebHosts page: > http://microsound.nexthop.net/bin/view.cgi/Main/WebHosts > > Phil > > > -- > Phil Thomson > xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx > > { home: http://www.sfu.ca/~pthomson/ > { blog: http://www.bloglines.com/blog/PhilThomson > { label: http://centibel.org/ > -- Phil Thomson xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx { home: http://www.sfu.ca/~pthomson/ { blog: http://www.bloglines.com/blog/PhilThomson { label: http://centibel.org/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Jan 18 00:20:10 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33921-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.109]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 19:20:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 17 Jan 2005 19:20:10 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 59430 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 18 Jan 2005 00:20:08 +0000 Received: (qmail 59418 invoked from network); Tue, 18 Jan 2005 00:20:07 +0000 Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 19:23:59 -0500 From: graham miller <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Death of electronic music To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73C-SYMPA (Macintosh; U; PPC) Content-type: text/plain; x-mac-creator=4D4F5353; x-mac-type=54455854; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en,fr-CA Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <BE11AAD5.2CB1%xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> <xxxxx.xx.xx.xxx.xxx.xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx as soon as music is recorded it becomes electronic music. anything music produced by a speaker is electronic music. Jonathan Hughes wrote: > > Crying for it: > > a lot of crap called electronic music (in discos of course) is killing the > > idea of something helpful to understand our times or future. > > I don't think the stuff they're playing in discos is "electronic music" -- > it's disco (or, more likely, house or trance). I suppose it is mainly > electronic in origin, but so is a lot of rock and even country music these > days. If you're worried that people are using the term "electronic music" > as an umbrella term for house, techno, trance, glitch, microsound, > ambient, etc., there's probably not a whole lot that can be done about it. > The general public often uses terms that are either 1. not accepted by > those within the the communities they are describing, or 2. are very > subjective. > > To me, Johnny Cash is definitely country music and Shania Twain is > definitely absolutely not, but the country music industry seems to think > otherwise. > > Jonathan > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Jan 17 23:22:53 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33920-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 18:22:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 17 Jan 2005 18:22:52 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 38188 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 17 Jan 2005 23:22:02 +0000 Received: (qmail 38036 invoked from network); Mon, 17 Jan 2005 23:21:58 +0000 Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 00:21:48 +0100 From: ".kspr" <xxxx@x-xxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Death of electronic music (disco reflections) In-reply-to: <BE11A4C4.A8%xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@x-xxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <BE11A4C4.A8%xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > Not so sure that's necessarily always the case...What about 80's > detroit > techno ? That's right. There will always be exceptions. Same goes for clubs that have a theme, like goth-clubs, for example. But I was refering to what I thought of an ordinary club with dance-music. But here as well, there will always be exceptions. It's not the "artist" that decides the outcome of his or hers work.. /.kspr ..monobond http://monobond.pale-dawn.dk ..kspr Patches http://kspr.pale-dawn.dk --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Jan 17 22:29:40 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33919-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 17:29:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 17 Jan 2005 17:29:40 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 22774 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 17 Jan 2005 22:29:37 +0000 Received: (qmail 22764 invoked from network); Mon, 17 Jan 2005 22:29:36 +0000 Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 17:29:33 -0500 From: precursor <xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Death of electronic music In-reply-to: <BE11D62C.2CD9%xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BE11A67D.4275%xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.0.6 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx on 1/17/05 2:53 PM, _dino lupelli_ at xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx wrote: > If art doesn't exist why do people love it? > The death of electronic music is just the beginning of a new era, I guess! > > So let's talk about what's going on now! > > dl > >> The false is forever the lead in everything, continually dragging along the fools: the truth brings up the rear, is late, and limps along upon the arm of time. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Jan 17 22:20:20 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33918-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.82]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 17:20:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 17 Jan 2005 17:20:20 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 17284 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 17 Jan 2005 22:20:14 +0000 Received: (qmail 17272 invoked from network); Mon, 17 Jan 2005 22:20:14 +0000 Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 17:22:12 -0500 From: michael trommer <xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Death of electronic music (disco reflections) In-reply-to: <p05210600be11ce450eea@[64.63.223.128]> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BE11A4C4.A8%xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.0.0.1309 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx On 1/17/05 3:20 PM, "chthonic streams" <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote: >> One thing about the electronic music in discos and other clubs: They >> are not meant to reflect our time >and future. Or help us understand >> something deeper about those issues. It is pure entertainment. Not so sure that's necessarily always the case...What about 80's detroit techno ? --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? 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THANK YOU! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- framework - phonography/field recording; contextual and decontextualized sound activity presented by patrick mcginley a fine mix this edition based around peter cusack's recent release, baikal ice, as a skeleton - these frozen, crackling recordings mixed well with dallas simpson's delicate natural soundscape and john hudak's abstracted suspended ringing. our initial softness was brought to bay by joe colley's malfunctioning equipment in two tracks from one of my favorite releases from last year, desperate attempts at beauty (this is the second set of tracks we've featured from this disc), and a rare compositional outing for toshiya tsunoda (from the split lp whose opposite face - justin bennett's cacerolada - was featured before it's release last year, and then again in one of our end of 2004 wrap-up shows). as the new year shapes up i can announce that framework:focus will be continuing for the foreseeable future as a regular feature. my goal will be to produce one focus edition per month (starting with february), which will generally air on the 3rd friday - thus this year's first should be on 18.02.05. i hope you enjoy the focus format - i, for one, have been enjoying their evolution over the past few months! one more time: i start each (regular) edition of framework with an introduction recorded by a listener/contributor, and have had many fine, fine examples over the past few years. but lately my stock has been running low - perhaps the novelty of the request has worn off, but please, if ever you would consider submitting a framework introduction for airplay, whether you are an experienced phonographer or have never held a tape recorder, i would be honored to receive your contribution! every intro submission sent in to date has been used, so it's a sure-fire way to get some airplay! see the guidelines below the playlist... again, we are always looking for material for the show, whether raw field recordings, field recording based composition or introduction submissions. send material, released or not, on any format, to the address below. we are also hoping to have live performances as often as possible, so if you are in or passing through london please get in touch! framework 31 nevill road london n16 8sl uk xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 14.01.05 this edition will be rebroadcast this wednesday, 19.01.05, at 11:00am gmt (artist / title / album / label) keith de mendonca / framework intro one last intro from this prolific contributor - this one a recording of geese in st james park, london http://www.dismbody.demon.co.uk/home.html peter cusack / floating icicles rocked by waves / baikal ice (spring 2003) / rer megacorp underwater recording of shards of broken ice sheets floating on the surface of the lake xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx, http://www.rermegacorp.com dallas simpson / on discovering some more notes of willow in spring / the adoration of willow - stoke bardolph / - the latest in a series of works dedicated to the discovery of sonic essences of willow trees http://www.waterpump.f9.co.uk john hudak / - / room with sky / spekk unidentifiable sources ring with abstract references to a bedroom and it's view of the outside world http://www.johnhudak.net, http://www.spekk.net peter cusack / ferry mores at jetty / baikal ice (spring 2003) / rer megacorp underwater recording of a small ferry that crosses the mouth of angara river xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx, http://www.rermegacorp.com joe colley / burn memory (test for headphone rattle) / desperate attempts at beauty / auscultare/groundfault tense rumbling composition of electronic buzzes and hums http://www.groundfault.net toshiya tsunoda / dertiende mixer / cleavage of acoustics / stichting mixer acoustic captures of vibrations and electronic sounds passed through various gates and composed with stereo separation http://www.stichtingmixer.nl peter cusack / guardians / baikal ice (spring 2003) / rer megacorp echoing capture of the guard dogs of the village of lystvanka xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx, http://www.rermegacorp.com joe colley / headache (diagnostic testpulse for blown pa) / desperate attempts at beauty / auscultare/groundfault rhythmic pulses and cracks, more composition for malfunctioning electronic equipment? http://www.groundfault.net john kannenberg / for agnes martin / four painters / stasisfield digital manipulations of wind-rustled leaves create sonic interpretations of this painter's work http://www.stasisfield.com peter cusack / baikal ice flow split 2 / baikal ice (spring 2003) / rer megacorp underwater recordings of two flows of compacted icicles splitting apart xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx, http://www.rermegacorp.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- framework intro submissions: 1) take yourself and an audio recording device to a location of your choice 2) record for AT LEAST 1 minute before you - 3) read the following text: welcome to framework. framework is a show consecrated to field recording, and it's use in composition. field recording, phonography, the art of sound-hunting; open your ears and listen! 4) continue your recording for AT LEAST 2 minutes after you've finish speaking 5) send the recording on any format to the address above, or as an mp3 via email thanks! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- the framework 2003 cd has been reprinted and is now once again available directly from the resonancefm online shop, along with a selection of other benefit cds, t-shirts, and general paraphernalia. drop in here to have a look: http://www.resonancefm.com/shop.php framework 2003 resonancefm benefit cd featuring highlights from the year's broadcasting rob grant & melanie clifford / framework intro thomas dimuzio / unearth & lift and spear / sonicism / rrrecords chris watson / river mara at night / stepping into the dark / touch johannes helden / - / sketchbook / trente oiseaux toy bizarre / - / kdi dctb 116 / absurd murmer / liquid solid / definition / absurd jgrzinich & seth nehil / the distant edge / confluence / intransitive seth nehil & jgrzinich / the mirrored corner / stria / erewhon annette lissauer / framework intro toby paddock / air, surface and magnetic vibrations / - / - steve roden / - / resonant cities / trente oiseaux francisco lopez / untitled #101 / untitled (2000) / ignis projekt mnortham / ancient sewer pipe, valletta, malta / phonography.org 5 / phonography.org the quiet american / donkey trains leaving marpha, nepal / phonography.org 4 / phonography.org steve barsotti / trainyard presence / phonography.org 5 / phonography.org k. m. krebs / jericho sailing center (nautical gamelan) / phonography.org 4 / phonography.org david daniell / highway 371, forty miles south of farmington, january 19, 1998, 2:25 pm / sem / antiopic joyce hinterding / - / spectral / antiopic/sigma editions david daniell / dixon lake road, july 31, 1999, 5:45 am / sem / antiopic tacet ncv / live on framework jean-luc guionnet & bertrand denzler / live on framework dallas simpson / framework intro --Boundary_(ID_sl7HOHyo8gUdP3E27m6KKA)-- From ???@??? Mon Jan 17 20:35:37 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33916-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.82]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 15:35:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 17 Jan 2005 15:35:36 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 78116 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 17 Jan 2005 20:35:13 +0000 Received: (qmail 78083 invoked from network); Mon, 17 Jan 2005 20:35:11 +0000 Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 15:35:08 -0500 From: Peter Price <xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Death of electronic music (disco reflections) In-reply-to: <p05210600be11ce450eea@[64.63.223.128]> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.552) Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_un/MA6D0h5BVAGUI1sXADQ)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_un/MA6D0h5BVAGUI1sXADQ) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In the “real world” however I think it seems pretty clear that there is an entertainment/art line somewhere. After all, some of us seem to be building our career on disputing where exactly this line lies. To pretend the line simply does not exist is usually pretty disingenuous. Our understanding of this line is culturally determined…a group like this will have a somewhat broad agreement about where to place Britney Spears on the entertainment/art continuum, and likely a less broad agreement about Autechre (or fill in the blank yourself). As Tobias demonstrated in his two essays he provided links for, these questions are not without consequence because how they are answered determines the possibilities for expressing ourselves in our desired way (by being funded, curated, booked, invested in, etc.) Furthermore I have never understood what exactly we gain by saying art doesn’t exist? Would it be equally valid to say that entertainment doesn’t exist? If not, what does this inequality say about our culture? Everyone agrees that entertainment is an existing sphere of activity, but the sphere of Art is hotly contended. Is this because art defines itself against entertainment, making entertainment primary? Is this just another way of saying that the desire to be entertained is universal but the desire to be (what? Arted?) is felt by a smaller group of people (mutant perhaps?) On Monday, January 17, 2005, at 03:20 PM, chthonic streams wrote: >> One thing about the electronic music in discos and other clubs: They >> are not meant to reflect our time >and future. Or help us understand >> something deeper about those issues. It is pure entertainment. > > there are exceptions of course. the main one coming to mind being new > order. > > d. > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > --Boundary_(ID_un/MA6D0h5BVAGUI1sXADQ)-- From ???@??? Mon Jan 17 20:11:47 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33913-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.81]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 15:11:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 17 Jan 2005 15:11:47 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 69158 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 17 Jan 2005 20:11:33 +0000 Received: (qmail 69147 invoked from network); Mon, 17 Jan 2005 20:11:32 +0000 Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 15:27:50 -0500 From: chthonic streams <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Death of electronic music In-reply-to: <BE11D62C.2CD9%xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> X-Sender: chthonic%xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxx.xxxxxxxxxx.xxx To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <p05210602be11cf7d5859@[64.63.223.198]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <BE11D62C.2CD9%xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >If art doesn't exist why do people love it? >The death of electronic music is just the beginning of a new era, I guess! >So let's talk about what's going on now! la musique électronique est mort, vive la musique électronique! d. 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Mon Jan 17 20:21:52 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33915-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 15:21:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 17 Jan 2005 15:21:52 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 73558 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 17 Jan 2005 20:21:37 +0000 Received: (qmail 73548 invoked from network); Mon, 17 Jan 2005 20:21:36 +0000 Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 12:21:33 -0800 From: John McCaig <xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] iTunes visualizer... In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: John McCaig <xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=jIBCNok6koVglMexWtHyvOUy/QF/f3pqg/bS7xRe4BW+RlHA0+ea6RU5jtzNXYbn35/Gx7VWmlK3/3zo3mvlik6xPVgY+8GNIp3EbCvLho3AmStCZrumQkPFu7sb7nqmm5LQBkbjwnx1u2y4vUowiYEEbs2XdJLThr+Y6z2lVS0= X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx if you download the max/msp/jitter package, there even is patch in the examples called 'maxtunes' recreates its pretty good (alltho a little more simply) and explains how it works in the process :) On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 21:50:18 -0500, graham miller <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> wrote: > anybody know any hard facts as to how this actually works? i mean, the > waveform part is pretty obvious, but the damn thing never ceases to > amaze me in terms of its interpretation of audio... i almost just want > to put a video camera on the screen and shoot the whole thing live as a > music video... > > g. > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > -- john mcCaig | www.johnmccaig.com xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Jan 17 20:11:57 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33914-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 15:11:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 17 Jan 2005 15:11:57 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 69228 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 17 Jan 2005 20:11:35 +0000 Received: (qmail 69214 invoked from network); Mon, 17 Jan 2005 20:11:34 +0000 Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 15:20:17 -0500 From: chthonic streams <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Death of electronic music (disco reflections) In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@x-xxxxx.xx> X-Sender: chthonic%xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxx.xxxxxxxxxx.xxx To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <p05210600be11ce450eea@[64.63.223.128]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@x-xxxxx.xx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >One thing about the electronic music in discos and other clubs: They >are not meant to reflect our time >and future. Or help us understand >something deeper about those issues. It is pure entertainment. there are exceptions of course. the main one coming to mind being new order. d. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Jan 17 19:44:57 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33911-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 14:44:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 17 Jan 2005 14:44:57 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 56618 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 17 Jan 2005 19:44:46 +0000 Received: (qmail 56608 invoked from network); Mon, 17 Jan 2005 19:44:45 +0000 Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 20:53:00 +0100 From: _dino lupelli_ <xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Death of electronic music In-reply-to: <002001c4fccb$c15bb530$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> To: Microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BE11D62C.2CD9%xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.0.0.1309 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at libero.it serv1 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx If art doesn't exist why do people love it? The death of electronic music is just the beginning of a new era, I guess! So let's talk about what's going on now! dl > > "Fuck Dance, Let's Art" > > i prefer: "let's fuck, dance and art!" > > with the notion accepted that none of the above exists, but we do it anyway... > > > ...th_ost > °°° > th_ost: tomoroh hidari_oliver stummer > acronymic symbiosis of alter & ego > > http://www.tomoroh.com/ > http://www.stiege44.com/ > xxxxxx@xxx.xxx > ay, sigue:56825202 > >>> we gonna fight for your right to apathy... << > °°°°° > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Jan 17 19:47:44 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33912-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 14:47:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 17 Jan 2005 14:47:44 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 59076 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 17 Jan 2005 19:47:33 +0000 Received: (qmail 59061 invoked from network); Mon, 17 Jan 2005 19:47:32 +0000 Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 20:47:28 +0100 From: ".kspr" <xxxx@x-xxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Death of electronic music In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@x-xxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx One thing about the electronic music in discos and other clubs: They are not meant to reflect our time and future. Or help us understand something deeper about those issues. It is pure entertainment. But maybe the music played in discos and clubs really do reflect our time and future and actually helps us understand it: that kind of music have only one function, and that is to entertain. Considering our present time I find it highly relevant. People are used to, these days, to get entertained, to consume, to throw away. The music played in discos is just as much part of the play, as any other quiz show on television. And another thing, take Britney Spears or her alike, is it not art that she can sell millions of albums? Is it not art that Andy Warhol could charge 500 USD for opening the window in The Factory for 15 minuts to let the noise from New York embrace the people there? I don't think that everything, including music and other "art" stuff, should have that speciel label "art". Art is just a function, a way of communication. And some music have another function that you don't have to make you reflect upon a lot of deep stuff. It just sounds good. I am truly happy about the existence of that kind of music in my record collection. I would be fed up with it if I had to do that every time I listened to music. Another fucntion could be to entertain or to make people dance. -best /.kspr ..monobond http://monobond.pale-dawn.dk ..kspr Patches http://kspr.pale-dawn.dk On Jan 17, 2005, at 20:29, Peter Price wrote: > I agree that there is no such "thing" as art in the same way I don't > think there is any such "thing" as consciousness. I suspect that "Art" > like "consciousness" is an emergent property of a certain kind of > organization...a non linear irruption out of pattern, a > deterritorialization from the actual towards the virtual...non > localizable but entirely immanent. > > > On Monday, January 17, 2005, at 02:14 PM, Cory wrote: > >> is it not obvious to everyone else that this is a solid waste of time >> and effort?! >> >> there is not such thing as 'art' (gasp!) >> >> art is only a communication, the integrity and honesty of which the >> only defining value >> >> dance is only one manifestation of the communication of joy >> >> ------------------------------------- >> audio @ http://www.myspace.com/myo > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Jan 17 19:39:44 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33910-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 14:39:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 17 Jan 2005 14:39:44 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 52955 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 17 Jan 2005 19:39:35 +0000 Received: (qmail 52942 invoked from network); Mon, 17 Jan 2005 19:39:33 +0000 Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 20:35:46 +0100 From: th_ost <xxxxxx@xxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Death of electronic music To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>, xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <002001c4fccb$c15bb530$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_L8/NctCPcJZ275PyBteyXw)" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Authenticated: #3048294 X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_L8/NctCPcJZ275PyBteyXw) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit "Fuck Dance, Let's Art" i prefer: "let's fuck, dance and art!" with the notion accepted that none of the above exists, but we do it anyway... ....th_ost °°° th_ost: tomoroh hidari_oliver stummer acronymic symbiosis of alter & ego http://www.tomoroh.com/ http://www.stiege44.com/ xxxxxx@xxx.xxx ay, sigue:56825202 >> we gonna fight for your right to apathy... << °°°°° --Boundary_(ID_L8/NctCPcJZ275PyBteyXw)-- From ???@??? Mon Jan 17 19:29:16 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33909-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 14:29:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 17 Jan 2005 14:29:16 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 46648 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 17 Jan 2005 19:29:06 +0000 Received: (qmail 46638 invoked from network); Mon, 17 Jan 2005 19:29:06 +0000 Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 14:29:01 -0500 From: Peter Price <xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Death of electronic music In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.552) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx I agree that there is no such "thing" as art in the same way I don't think there is any such "thing" as consciousness. I suspect that "Art" like "consciousness" is an emergent property of a certain kind of organization...a non linear irruption out of pattern, a deterritorialization from the actual towards the virtual...non localizable but entirely immanent. On Monday, January 17, 2005, at 02:14 PM, Cory wrote: > is it not obvious to everyone else that this is a solid waste of time > and effort?! > > there is not such thing as 'art' (gasp!) > > art is only a communication, the integrity and honesty of which the > only defining value > > dance is only one manifestation of the communication of joy > > ------------------------------------- > audio @ http://www.myspace.com/myo --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Jan 17 19:15:04 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33908-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 14:15:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 17 Jan 2005 14:15:04 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 38443 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 17 Jan 2005 19:14:54 +0000 Received: (qmail 38390 invoked from network); Mon, 17 Jan 2005 19:14:53 +0000 Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 14:14:49 -0500 From: Cory <xxx.xxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Death of electronic music In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_XaIKYp27syJnPBWGLA1luQ)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=ecYISbaF9v4T0voxiDeL/4vmHzOUUaScb71bjo8uUcZVhv9U+4Yci3lyEqKxvs5/RQcM8e2I1DM+2ohwTRJHkNmcqWwBSE8aYuRvbAGD4KicSt5yYI9qjMkhmMllahqIoaDWZ1Ja4GShi80PERBpR2uGGMRBbazglWXhXbDeAdo= X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_XaIKYp27syJnPBWGLA1luQ) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit is it not obvious to everyone else that this is a solid waste of time and effort?! there is not such thing as 'art' (gasp!) art is only a communication, the integrity and honesty of which the only defining value dance is only one manifestation of the communication of joy ------------------------------------- audio @ http://www.myspace.com/myo --Boundary_(ID_XaIKYp27syJnPBWGLA1luQ)-- From ???@??? Mon Jan 17 18:46:11 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33907-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 13:46:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 17 Jan 2005 13:46:11 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 27089 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 17 Jan 2005 18:46:02 +0000 Received: (qmail 27079 invoked from network); Mon, 17 Jan 2005 18:46:02 +0000 Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 13:54:11 -0500 From: Matthew Mitchell <xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Death of electronic music To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: EarthLink MailBox 5.05.11 (Windows) Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_UhWd2dD7tWoMF3u1XzzEYA)" X-Priority: Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-EM-Version: 5, 0, 0, 0 X-EM-Registration: #3003520714B31D032830 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_UhWd2dD7tWoMF3u1XzzEYA) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The record label Charhizma's website has a variation I prefer: "Fuck Dance, Let's Art" -mm well as Tobias said "Fuck Art, Let's Dance" On Monday, January 17, 2005, at 11:48 AM, _dino lupelli_ wrote: Crying for it: a lot of crap called electronic music (in discos of course) is killing the idea of something helpful to understand our times or future. Maybe is me bored by those things, maybe someone else agree. www.mattmitchell.us Download and listen to free music, sign the guestbook, read the blog! --Boundary_(ID_UhWd2dD7tWoMF3u1XzzEYA)-- From ???@??? Mon Jan 17 18:45:40 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33906-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 13:45:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 17 Jan 2005 13:45:40 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 26122 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 17 Jan 2005 18:45:31 +0000 Received: (qmail 26111 invoked from network); Mon, 17 Jan 2005 18:45:30 +0000 Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 13:45:24 -0500 (EST) From: Jonathan Hughes <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Death of electronic music In-reply-to: <BE11AAD5.2CB1%xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx Message-id: <xxxxx.xx.xx.xxx.xxx.xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.1 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <BE11AAD5.2CB1%xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > Crying for it: > a lot of crap called electronic music (in discos of course) is killing the > idea of something helpful to understand our times or future. I don't think the stuff they're playing in discos is "electronic music" -- it's disco (or, more likely, house or trance). I suppose it is mainly electronic in origin, but so is a lot of rock and even country music these days. If you're worried that people are using the term "electronic music" as an umbrella term for house, techno, trance, glitch, microsound, ambient, etc., there's probably not a whole lot that can be done about it. The general public often uses terms that are either 1. not accepted by those within the the communities they are describing, or 2. are very subjective. To me, Johnny Cash is definitely country music and Shania Twain is definitely absolutely not, but the country music industry seems to think otherwise. Jonathan --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Jan 17 18:23:49 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33905-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 13:23:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 17 Jan 2005 13:23:48 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 16297 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 17 Jan 2005 18:23:37 +0000 Received: (qmail 16286 invoked from network); Mon, 17 Jan 2005 18:23:37 +0000 Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 13:23:34 -0500 From: Peter Price <xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Death of electronic music In-reply-to: <BE11AAD5.2CB1%xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.552) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx well as Tobias said "Fuck Art, Let's Dance" On Monday, January 17, 2005, at 11:48 AM, _dino lupelli_ wrote: > Crying for it: > a lot of crap called electronic music (in discos of course) is killing > the > idea of something helpful to understand our times or future. > > Maybe is me bored by those things, maybe someone else agree. > > Dl > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Jan 17 16:39:58 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33904-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 11:39:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 17 Jan 2005 11:39:58 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 77867 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 17 Jan 2005 16:39:48 +0000 Received: (qmail 77853 invoked from network); Mon, 17 Jan 2005 16:39:48 +0000 Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 17:48:05 +0100 From: _dino lupelli_ <xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] Death of electronic music To: Microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BE11AAD5.2CB1%xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.0.0.1309 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at libero.it serv3 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Crying for it: a lot of crap called electronic music (in discos of course) is killing the idea of something helpful to understand our times or future. Maybe is me bored by those things, maybe someone else agree. Dl --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? 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Other labels added to 'shop' To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: "(1.8)sec.records" <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=bHkDtP0PsL+ASSplZ6FCqKQ4gCvtm8Xld9SARsXtzf85DmmnVxeX8IuGdq7oPTYWfIudgbtzqla+tlkuScbS0ojApbmZX9/47/7TnFrNnj/bzYiyS4MfREQoM6jhlM5Ocnuh5oh2f9le0REMDnP0i4Cx/MSp4a/SnJw2fND0xEY= X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (1.8)sec.records Jan. Update. Hello Everyone, Just wanted to let everyone know that new labels have been added to the 'shop' page. Many Trente Oiseaux CDs With CDs from 12k/Line/Happy, List, And/oar on the way. Shipping discounts on multiple orders. The (1.8)sec.archive project has an ongoing call for submissions. Info available under 'projects'. Watch for some exciting upcoming CDs in the next few months. best, chris -- |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| (1.8)sec.records www.1pt8.tk |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Jan 17 15:02:49 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33902-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.82]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 10:02:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 17 Jan 2005 10:02:48 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 44617 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 17 Jan 2005 15:02:43 +0000 Received: (qmail 44607 invoked from network); Mon, 17 Jan 2005 15:02:42 +0000 Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 16:02:37 +0100 From: cvia <xxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Tiramizu _ new cds ! Dailleau-Toeplitz ///PacJap To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-ME-UUID: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx.xx X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx [sorry for cross posting] cdr 007 "a cd, two artists, one on left and the other one on right magic stereo, your head is just in the middle of the music" cdr 008 "PacJap is gathering 8 french and japanese artists with a machine, the D-system. One can be a japanese guy and sings loudly La Marseillaise." /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// //////////////////////////////////////////////////// :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::TIRAMIZ NEWS:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// //////////////////////////////////////////////////// OUT NOW !!!!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -------------------- L.DAILLEAU / K.T TOEPLITZ Topographie des terror audio cdr tiracdr-007 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -------------------- PACJAP D-system V.1.0 audio cdr tiracdr-008 more infos :::: http://www.tiramizu.net /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// //////////////////////////////////////////////////// /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// //////////////////////////////////////////////////// L.DAILLEAU / K.T TOEPLITZ Laurent Dailleau is the sole French Theremin virtuoso player, hyperactive musician on the different international scenes of electroacoustic and improvised music featuring into festivals like Musique Action , and with cd releases on Sonoris , 33revpermi, 23five . K.T. Toeplitz is the sole French BassComputer virtuoso player, hyperactive musician on the different international scenes of electroacoustic and composed music featuring into festivals like März Musik , and with cd releases on Sonoris, RecordingsOfSleazeArt, 23five, Vice Schalplatten. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -------------------- PACJAP -- D-SYSTEM Functions of the machine: to disable the common activities as playing an instrument or speaking or also making sound activities. Maybe we can use it to transform a keyboarded text to a kind of musical sounds. The real project is to take a reality or an activity and to give another reality, so the user must learn or use his environment in a different manner than normally. tiramizu ----------------------------------- xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx ---> [christian vialard] http://www.tiramizu.net ----------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Jan 17 10:54:07 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33901-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.113]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 05:54:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 17 Jan 2005 05:54:07 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 76483 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 17 Jan 2005 10:54:09 +0000 Received: (qmail 76473 invoked from network); Mon, 17 Jan 2005 10:54:08 +0000 Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 05:57:59 -0500 From: graham miller <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] searching for jason amm/solvent e-mail... To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73C-SYMPA (Macintosh; U; PPC) Content-type: text/plain; x-mac-creator=4D4F5353; x-mac-type=54455854; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en,fr-CA Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <v03110701be112794624b@[151.24.133.197]> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx nope, unfortunately... Nicole catalano wrote: > >anyone have his e-mail? > > > >the xxxx@xxxxxxx records e-mail is full, apparently... > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Jan 17 09:47:26 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33900-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 04:47:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 17 Jan 2005 04:47:26 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 97103 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 17 Jan 2005 09:47:26 +0000 Received: (qmail 97093 invoked from network); Mon, 17 Jan 2005 09:47:26 +0000 Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 09:29:10 +0100 From: nicola catalano <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] searching for jason amm/solvent e-mail... X-Sender: xxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxxxxx.xx To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <v03110701be112794624b@[151.24.133.197]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at libero.it serv4 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >anyone have his e-mail? > >the xxxx@xxxxxxx records e-mail is full, apparently... > >g. > >p.s. if you don't know who this is, check him out. sublime cheeky >minimal analogue instrumental synth pop. 808s in full effect. > try this: xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx + + + + + + + + + + + + + + { { d i s c o g r a p h y } } z_e_l_l_e | nth | line (http://www.12k.com) aug 2001 z_e_l_l_e | rjctd::nw | cubicfabric (http://www.cubicmusic.com/fabric/index.html) nov 2003 "zen enlightenment lifts life energy" on tu M'p3 (http://www.tu-m.com) jan 2002 "shayozoku" on tu M'p3 (http://www.tu-m.com) sept 2002 "tief herz" on lib. (http://www.cubicmusic.com/fabric/index.html) june 2003 "rjctd 11" on netmage 04 @ the wire 239 (http://www.netmage.it) or (http://www.thewire.co.uk) jan 2004 UPCOMING "kitanai" on star6_789' v.2 (http://www.star6789.tk/) TBA SOUND EXHIBITION "rjctd 9" (from rjctd::nw) @ Ecoute | Centre Pompidou | Paris, France | 22 Sept, 2004 - 17 Jan, 2005 | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | REVIEWS http://www.12k.com/line/linepress.htm | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | "battiti" daily radio programme (12:00am) on rai-radio3 :: third channel of italian national broadcasting company http://www.radio.rai.it/radio3/battiti/index.cfm | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | columnist on: "blow up" (monthly) http://www.blowupmagazine.com "rumore" (monthly) http://www.rumoremag.com + + + + + + + + + + + + + + NICOLA CATALANO c/o MAURIZIO MARTUSCIELLO Via Sant'Arcangelo di Romagna, 45 00127 Roma Italia ph. ++39 06 52370975 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Jan 17 08:22:00 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33899-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.111]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 03:22:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 17 Jan 2005 03:22:00 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 74483 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 17 Jan 2005 08:22:01 +0000 Received: (qmail 74473 invoked from network); Mon, 17 Jan 2005 08:22:01 +0000 Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 09:25:37 +0100 From: steinbr=?ISO-8859-1?B?/A==?=chel <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] japanese music magazines? In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BE113511.5F7F%xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.4.030702.0 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - server17.hostpoint.ch X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - hyperreal.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [26 6] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - synchron.ch X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx here: http://www.faderbyheadz.com best, ralph. Am 16.1.2005 22:30 Uhr schrieb "andrew jones" unter <xxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx>: > you can try OK Fred and > Fader by Headz. > no idea on a contact for Fader but let me know > if you find one. > > thanks, > a > > On Jan 16, 2005, at 2:31 PM, Jorge Bachmann wrote: > >> try this URL, there are a few experimental artists. >> >> http://www.japanimprov.com/ >> >> paz >> J21 >> >> On Jan 14, 2005, at 11:07 AM, jfrede wrote: >> >>> does anyone know of any good japanese music magazines that feature >>> electronic artists? >> >> >> justino >> aka jorge bachmann sculpture-photography-sound >> P.O.Box 15953 >> San Francisco, CA 94115-0953 >> M-415-706-9629 >> W-415-750-3517 http://www.anihilo.com >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> website: http://www.microsound.org >> >> > Andrew Jones > 912 Euclid Ave. > Birmingham, AL, 35213 > 407-927-7607 > blog: dignifieddevil.blogspot.com ---- aim: liminal18 > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > > -- ..:.: http://www.synchron.ch :.:. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Jan 17 03:35:28 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33898-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 22:35:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 16 Jan 2005 22:35:28 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 85466 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 17 Jan 2005 03:35:26 +0000 Received: (qmail 85447 invoked from network); Mon, 17 Jan 2005 03:35:25 +0000 Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 22:39:17 -0500 From: graham miller <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] searching for jason amm/solvent e-mail... To: IDM List <xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>, Microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73C-SYMPA (Macintosh; U; PPC) Content-type: text/plain; x-mac-creator=4D4F5353; x-mac-type=54455854; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en,fr-CA Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx anyone have his e-mail? the xxxx@xxxxxxx records e-mail is full, apparently... g. p.s. if you don't know who this is, check him out. sublime cheeky minimal analogue instrumental synth pop. 808s in full effect. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Jan 17 02:46:31 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33897-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 21:46:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 16 Jan 2005 21:46:31 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 75246 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 17 Jan 2005 02:46:25 +0000 Received: (qmail 75236 invoked from network); Mon, 17 Jan 2005 02:46:24 +0000 Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 21:50:18 -0500 From: graham miller <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] iTunes visualizer... To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73C-SYMPA (Macintosh; U; PPC) Content-type: text/plain; x-mac-creator=4D4F5353; x-mac-type=54455854; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en,fr-CA Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx anybody know any hard facts as to how this actually works? i mean, the waveform part is pretty obvious, but the damn thing never ceases to amaze me in terms of its interpretation of audio... i almost just want to put a video camera on the screen and shoot the whole thing live as a music video... g. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Jan 17 02:27:31 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33896-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.110]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 21:27:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 16 Jan 2005 21:27:31 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 70585 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 17 Jan 2005 02:27:26 +0000 Received: (qmail 70574 invoked from network); Mon, 17 Jan 2005 02:27:25 +0000 Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 03:27:24 +0100 From: Sofus Forsberg <xxxxx@xxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] -help In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BE10E11C.4660%xxxxx@xxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/9.0.2509 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx when in doubt - make no sense > -help > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Jan 17 02:27:10 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33895-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 21:27:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 16 Jan 2005 21:27:10 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 69648 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 17 Jan 2005 02:27:08 +0000 Received: (qmail 69638 invoked from network); Mon, 17 Jan 2005 02:27:08 +0000 Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 21:27:02 -0500 From: vze26m98 <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] microsound vs. DJ culture In-reply-to: <l03130305be0f4ea64c69@[213.84.105.55]> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <r02010400-1035-45E01211682F11D9A7D5000D932C0D78@[67.84.254.108]> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mailsmith 2.1.4 (Blindsider) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Arie van Schutterhoef wrote on 1/15/05: >BTW: I feel in this respect that the intellectual tension > felt by Stockhausen originates from the cultural devastation, > that occured after WW2 in Europe. Which was felt througout > generations after that and until recently this seems > to have been mastered in some kind of way. From an earlier post: "It was more than an emotional and psychological upheaval, living through the war. Everyone had recollections, images, experiences and impressions involving different senses, but especially recollections of extraordinary sounds heard during air-raids, sirens, explosions, bombing. A person suffering from shock is often more acutely disturbed by sound than sight. Several composers, among them Stockhausen, Berio, Xenakis, report detailed accounts of aural phenomena which have remained with them twenty years after the experience. The war had accustomed them to a sound world which had never seemed possible before and each one had to adjust to it in his own way. This assimilation took many forms; it explains why, for instance, musique concrete was so quickly accepted by this generation as a perfectly natural extension of the sound continuum they had perceived, and secondly, the violence, anger and horror of the war could be transformed into a music which was openly aggressive, brutal and violent.... Boulez' earliest compositions bear such directions as 'violent, abrupt, brutal, without expressive nuance.' 'I think that music should be collective spellbinding and hysteria, violently real -- following the direction of Antonin Artaud.' was his viewpoint just after the war." Nouritza Matossian, _Xenakis_, 1986 <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Jan 16 23:38:21 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33894-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.82]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 18:38:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 16 Jan 2005 18:38:21 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 22734 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 16 Jan 2005 23:38:20 +0000 Received: (qmail 22724 invoked from network); Sun, 16 Jan 2005 23:38:20 +0000 Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 23:37:58 +0000 From: scott allison <xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] books about synthesis In-reply-to: <BE1014AF.4635%xxxxx@xxxxx.xx> X-Originating-IP: [69.143.15.35] X-Sender: xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Bcc: Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Originating-Email: [xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Jan 2005 23:38:14.0319 (UTC) FILETIME=[727F63F0:01C4FC24] >i would that "the computer music turorial" by curtis roads is very good >reading. not just on synthesis. CMT, is great, I am reading it right now, covers alot of ground, but really only skims the surface of alot of subjects, CMT opens up with a basic explanation of basic elements then builds upon that. There are a few places where it deals with formuals, but CMT has really helped me understand the many different possiblities of digital thinking, atleast in terms of a basic introduction. Its a huge book and also covers other things like mixers, sound art possiblities, realtime software, digital studio set-ups, and notes to more info for a deeper read on the subjects. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Jan 16 23:37:40 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33893-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.81]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 18:37:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 16 Jan 2005 18:37:39 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 21785 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 16 Jan 2005 23:37:37 +0000 Received: (qmail 21775 invoked from network); Sun, 16 Jan 2005 23:37:36 +0000 Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 15:36:27 -0800 From: Bill Jarboe <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] -help In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx> X-Originating-IP: 4.242.105.128 To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=simple; s=test1; d=earthlink.net; h=Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Message-Id:Content-Transfer-Encoding:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer; b=WzyITl+3uCjR62R+/29fMy3CLD5CSO5ZFIAJhIhRNRj9qv9eCWkZir7YZQZIfiwi; X-ELNK-Trace: f6dd78c2ac81c6498eb596e2db90c20d239a348a220c26093d8542c7bfc8daa373e1570d0714d1a03ca473d225a0f487350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx ? Bill direct strategy # 943: talk interesting nonsense until someone forces you to stop. On Jan 16, 2005, at 1:50 PM, Sabastian Boaz wrote: > -help > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Jan 16 23:05:19 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33892-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.83]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 18:05:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 16 Jan 2005 18:05:18 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 11955 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 16 Jan 2005 23:05:16 +0000 Received: (qmail 11943 invoked from network); Sun, 16 Jan 2005 23:05:16 +0000 Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 00:06:30 +0100 From: jerome joy <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Tiramizu _ new cds ! In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-Sender: xxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxxxx.xxx To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <v04003a0abe10a187f8e3@[192.168.0.2]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-ME-UUID: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx.xx X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx [english and french mixed] cdr 007 "Un disque, deux artistes, un par canal donc de la stéréo, c'est magique, la musique est pile entre vos deux oreilles" "a cd, two artists, one on left and the other one on right magic stereo, your head is just in the middle of the music" cdr 008 Pacjap est la réunion de 8 artistes français et japonais plus une machine, le D-system. On peut être japonais et chanter la Marseillaise à tue tête. "PacJap is gathering 8 french and japanese artists with a machine, the D-system. One can be a japanese guy and sings loudly La Marseillaise." /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// //////////////////////////////////////////////////// :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::TIRAMIZU NEWS:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// //////////////////////////////////////////////////// OUT NOW !!!!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -------------------- L.DAILLEAU / K.T TOEPLITZ Topographie des terror audio cdr tiracdr-007 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -------------------- PACJAP D-system V.1.0 audio cdr tiracdr-008 more infos :::: http://www.tiramizu.net /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// //////////////////////////////////////////////////// /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// //////////////////////////////////////////////////// L.DAILLEAU / K.T TOEPLITZ Laurent Dailleau is the sole French Theremin virtuoso player, hyperactive musician on the different international scenes of electroacoustic and improvised music featuring into festivals like Musique Action , and with cd releases on Sonoris , 33revpermi, 23five . K.T. Toeplitz is the sole French BassComputer virtuoso player, hyperactive musician on the different international scenes of electroacoustic and composed music featuring into festivals like März Musik , and with cd releases on Sonoris, RecordingsOfSleazeArt, 23five, Vice Schalplatten. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -------------------- PACJAP -- D-SYSTEM Functions of the machine: to disable the common activities as playing an instrument or speaking or also making sound activities. Maybe we can use it to transform a keyboarded text to a kind of musical sounds. The real project is to take a reality or an activity and to give another reality, so the user must learn or use his environment in a different manner than normally. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Jan 16 22:13:21 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33891-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.83]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 17:13:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 16 Jan 2005 17:13:21 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 96479 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 16 Jan 2005 22:13:16 +0000 Received: (qmail 96465 invoked from network); Sun, 16 Jan 2005 22:13:16 +0000 Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 23:11:43 +0100 From: Risonanza Magnetica - S <x@xxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] FFWD_MAG#2 TOUR In-reply-to: <xxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BE10A52F.44E4%x@xxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.0.0.1309 X-Authenticated-Sender: x@xxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Spam-Processed: company.mail, Sun, 16 Jan 2005 23:15:30 +0100 (not processed: message from valid local sender) X-MDRemoteIP: 80.116.73.134 X-Return-Path: x@xxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-MDAV-Processed: company.mail, Sun, 16 Jan 2005 23:15:34 +0100 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For those who pass through ItalyŠ .......................... Wednesday, 19th january Spazio Lima, Milano FFWD_MAG#2'S INTRODUCTION features: "Landscape07 - Houses study B" [video installation] + "Landscape05 - there's no place like home" .::invernomuto::. [live media] DDD [live set] Download the press sheet [IT]: http://www.ffwdmag.org/download/ffwd_SpazioLima190105.pdf Following other FFWD_MAG#2 tour dates: - 4th february | Fondazione Adriano Olivetti, Roma - 4th february (night) | Metaverso, Roma - 5th february | Spazio Kappa, Prato - 8th february | RAUM, Bologna - 16th february | AB+, Torino - 19th february | Rebecca Container Gallery, Genova - 19th february (night) | Barfly, Genova - 27th february | various places [neanche], Faenza Download ffwd_mag#2 tour flyer: http://www.ffwdmag.org/download/ffwd2_flyer_02.zip .......................... ffwd_mag#2 is still available!!! 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Sun Jan 16 22:00:12 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33890-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 17:00:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 16 Jan 2005 17:00:12 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 89137 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 16 Jan 2005 22:00:10 +0000 Received: (qmail 89126 invoked from network); Sun, 16 Jan 2005 22:00:10 +0000 Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 21:59:18 +0000 From: choncey langford <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] LA microsounders -aesthetic / academic X-Originating-IP: [68.70.72.248] X-Sender: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Bcc: Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Originating-Email: [xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Jan 2005 22:00:07.0223 (UTC) FILETIME=[BD83D470:01C4FC16] THURS JAN 20 @the Silver Lake Lounge Los Angeles Books On Tape www.beatpunk.com Bookmobile www.woodsonlateral.com Tehn www.nnnnnnnn.org The Matic A promising night of experimental electronic music. Tehn - A MUST SEE for those interested in midi /dsp external devices. "commercial products offer an opportunity to embrace a methodology. so we adapt ourselves. perhaps we should adapt technology, not our intentions. yet defying conformity will not itself spawn genius. properly conceived, a combination of interface and functionality will only facilitate more sincere process. we may become more ourselves." _________________________________________________________________ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar – get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Jan 16 21:57:46 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33889-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.110]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 16:57:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 16 Jan 2005 16:57:46 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 87750 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 16 Jan 2005 21:57:45 +0000 Received: (qmail 87739 invoked from network); Sun, 16 Jan 2005 21:57:44 +0000 Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 21:57:37 +0000 From: Peter Coyte <xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] japanese music magazines? In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Might be worth checking The Illustrated Ape Japan Cult issue from December - features Ryuichi Sakamoto amongst other stuff. >> >> >>> does anyone know of any good japanese music magazines that feature >>> electronic artists? >> > Peter Coyte http://www.petercoyte.co.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Jan 16 21:51:03 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33888-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 16:51:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 16 Jan 2005 16:51:03 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 81545 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 16 Jan 2005 21:50:59 +0000 Received: (qmail 81535 invoked from network); Sun, 16 Jan 2005 21:50:59 +0000 Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 16:50:56 -0500 From: Sabastian Boaz <xxxx@xxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] -help To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx -help --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Jan 16 21:31:18 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33887-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.82]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 16:31:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 16 Jan 2005 16:31:18 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 75333 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 16 Jan 2005 21:31:16 +0000 Received: (qmail 75323 invoked from network); Sun, 16 Jan 2005 21:31:16 +0000 Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 16:31:11 -0500 From: Peter Price <xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] composer vs. dj In-reply-to: <BE0F084D.1A2CC%xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.552) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx a follow up to m y last "vs" question... what distinguishes a "composer" from a "DJ?" Is "composer" a viable category at all? What role does institutional legitimation play in defining these categories? What about "sound art?" If there is no way to draw a art/not-art line what meaning does art have after sound? Is there similar confusion in other art forms? If not is that because of some special condition of music or its modes of production/representation/consumption? --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Jan 16 21:29:55 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33886-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 16:29:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 16 Jan 2005 16:29:54 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 74195 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 16 Jan 2005 21:29:50 +0000 Received: (qmail 74185 invoked from network); Sun, 16 Jan 2005 21:29:50 +0000 Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 16:30:03 -0500 From: andrew jones <xxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] japanese music magazines? In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx you can try OK Fred and Fader by Headz. no idea on a contact for Fader but let me know if you find one. thanks, a On Jan 16, 2005, at 2:31 PM, Jorge Bachmann wrote: > try this URL, there are a few experimental artists. > > http://www.japanimprov.com/ > > paz > J21 > > On Jan 14, 2005, at 11:07 AM, jfrede wrote: > >> does anyone know of any good japanese music magazines that feature >> electronic artists? > > > justino > aka jorge bachmann sculpture-photography-sound > P.O.Box 15953 > San Francisco, CA 94115-0953 > M-415-706-9629 > W-415-750-3517 http://www.anihilo.com > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > Andrew Jones 912 Euclid Ave. Birmingham, AL, 35213 407-927-7607 blog: dignifieddevil.blogspot.com ---- aim: liminal18 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Jan 16 19:32:14 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33883-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 14:32:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 16 Jan 2005 14:32:12 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 30499 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 16 Jan 2005 19:32:07 +0000 Received: (qmail 30489 invoked from network); Sun, 16 Jan 2005 19:32:07 +0000 Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 19:31:55 +0000 From: greg g <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] microsound vs. DJ culture In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxx.xx> X-Originating-IP: [67.180.103.214] X-Sender: xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Bcc: Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Originating-Email: [xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Jan 2005 19:32:04.0433 (UTC) FILETIME=[0EF5A410:01C4FC02] personally i think the majority of mainstream remixing (and what's considered "underground") mostly comes from a possessive desire... one thinks oh man i love this track, i need to make it more my own. and also more of creating connections between artists and scenes... most remixing i don't think really makes for very good music. i don't listen to very many remixes. the word remix is really cliche and overused, so remixing is a lost art in my opinion. consider the differences between remixing and sampling... righto >From: Christos Carras <xxx@xxxxxx.xx> >Reply-To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> >To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> >Subject: Re: [microsound] microsound vs. DJ culture >Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 19:56:44 +0200 > >john saylor wrote: > >> >>but that is how they establish an individual and open releationship to >>the world of sound- by re-using the material. instead of thinking of the >>available world as 'sounds you can make with a piano' or 'sounds you can >>make with a couple of guitars, drums, and a ton of amplification'; this >>is 'sounds you can make with electronic audio processing'. >> >>musicians always try to copy what they like. how many bands try to sound >>like kraftwerk once in a while? re-using [re-contextualizing] sounds >>made by others is just a more direct way of acknowledging the influence. >> >>so while there are plenty of problems in the world today- i see re-mix >>culture as a positive thing, an example of how the creative impulse >>refuses to die. >> >> >> >music has a strange capacity to coalesce into something that feels >coherent, unlike language or even visual imagery which more easily brings >out the contradictions that some "re-contextualisations" can generate. of >course there are extreme strategies of montage that don't function this >way, but overall i don't see that re-mixing often gets further than >confirming the interesting age-old observation that "we never bathe in the >same river twice". but again, maybe i don't have enough exposure to re-mix >pieces and shall certainly try to get hold of some that were mentioned. > >cc > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >website: http://www.microsound.org > _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! 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Sun Jan 16 19:33:06 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33884-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 14:33:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 16 Jan 2005 14:33:06 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 31761 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 16 Jan 2005 19:33:04 +0000 Received: (qmail 31751 invoked from network); Sun, 16 Jan 2005 19:33:04 +0000 Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 11:31:28 -0800 From: Jorge Bachmann <xxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] japanese music magazines? In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx try this URL, there are a few experimental artists. http://www.japanimprov.com/ paz J21 On Jan 14, 2005, at 11:07 AM, jfrede wrote: > does anyone know of any good japanese music magazines that feature > electronic artists? justino aka jorge bachmann sculpture-photography-sound P.O.Box 15953 San Francisco, CA 94115-0953 M-415-706-9629 W-415-750-3517 http://www.anihilo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Jan 16 20:00:58 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33885-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 15:00:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 16 Jan 2005 15:00:58 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 41790 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 16 Jan 2005 20:00:56 +0000 Received: (qmail 41777 invoked from network); Sun, 16 Jan 2005 20:00:55 +0000 Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 10:33:30 -0800 From: Kim Cascone <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] the rise of shuffle mode To: microsound_list <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Loop-Detect: 1 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx http://www.cityofsound.com/blog/2005/01/the_rise_and_ri.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Jan 16 17:54:31 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33882-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 12:54:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 16 Jan 2005 12:54:31 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 99412 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 16 Jan 2005 17:54:29 +0000 Received: (qmail 99402 invoked from network); Sun, 16 Jan 2005 17:54:28 +0000 Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 19:56:44 +0200 From: Christos Carras <xxx@xxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] microsound vs. DJ culture In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (Windows/20040913) X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx john saylor wrote: > >but that is how they establish an individual and open releationship to >the world of sound- by re-using the material. instead of thinking of the >available world as 'sounds you can make with a piano' or 'sounds you can >make with a couple of guitars, drums, and a ton of amplification'; this >is 'sounds you can make with electronic audio processing'. > >musicians always try to copy what they like. how many bands try to sound >like kraftwerk once in a while? re-using [re-contextualizing] sounds >made by others is just a more direct way of acknowledging the influence. > >so while there are plenty of problems in the world today- i see re-mix >culture as a positive thing, an example of how the creative impulse >refuses to die. > > > music has a strange capacity to coalesce into something that feels coherent, unlike language or even visual imagery which more easily brings out the contradictions that some "re-contextualisations" can generate. of course there are extreme strategies of montage that don't function this way, but overall i don't see that re-mixing often gets further than confirming the interesting age-old observation that "we never bathe in the same river twice". but again, maybe i don't have enough exposure to re-mix pieces and shall certainly try to get hold of some that were mentioned. cc --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Jan 16 17:44:57 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33881-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.110]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 12:44:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 16 Jan 2005 12:44:57 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 96706 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 16 Jan 2005 17:44:55 +0000 Received: (qmail 96696 invoked from network); Sun, 16 Jan 2005 17:44:54 +0000 Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 12:44:53 -0500 From: "tobias c. van Veen" <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] microsound vs. DJ culture In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> To: Microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>, "jan.larsson" <xx@xxxxxx.xx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BE101245.1A331%xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.4.030702.0 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Yes, the entire quote notes this paradox: "After all, it is more Marx than Marx: property in remix culture, theoretically at least, is a shared kind of "resource" (although the reality, as I've recently written elsewhere, is far more along the lines of wanting to have one's cake and eat it too -- owning a remix, etc. -- there is much work to be done, I feel, in seeing where this is leading us...)." However, as Bas notes, there is also something of collectivity here. - tV > > ? what writings of marx are you referring to? > > wouldnt it be more correct to say that 'remix culture' is more > capitalist than capitalism? > > the remixer using (without permission and/or payment) the labors of > other workers to further his own capital ('name'/trademark is future > capital). > > > 2005-01-16 kl. 07.05 skrev tobias c. van Veen: > >> direction? After all, it is more Marx than Marx: property in remix >> culture, >> theoretically at least, is a shared kind of "resource" (although the > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > tobias c. van Veen -----------++++ http://www.quadrantcrossing.org -- http://www.thisistheonlyart.com -- McGill Communication + Philosophy ICQ: 18766209 | AIM: thesaibot +++ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Jan 16 17:39:54 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33879-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.81]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 12:39:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 16 Jan 2005 12:39:54 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 93629 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 16 Jan 2005 17:39:51 +0000 Received: (qmail 93619 invoked from network); Sun, 16 Jan 2005 17:39:51 +0000 Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 19:42:06 +0200 From: Christos Carras <xxx@xxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] books about synthesis In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (Windows/20040913) X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx a more "for dummies" style (though that's perhaps a bit unfair) is Eduardo Reck Miranda, Computer Sound Synthesis for the Electronic Musician. focal press, 1998 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Jan 16 17:41:06 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33880-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 12:41:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 16 Jan 2005 12:41:03 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 94658 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 16 Jan 2005 17:41:01 +0000 Received: (qmail 94648 invoked from network); Sun, 16 Jan 2005 17:41:00 +0000 Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 12:40:59 -0500 From: "tobias c. van Veen" <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Re: microsound Digest 16 Jan 2005 00:39:36 -0000 Issue 1331 In-reply-to: <p06200701be101c2b27cf@[217.43.21.143]> To: Microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>, Joseph Young <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BE10115B.1A32F%xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.4.030702.0 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Sometime this year, a rather substantive piece on Spooky and _Rhythm Science_ will (hopefully) be available on http://www.electronicbookreview.com in the Music Sound Noise thread. cheers, tobias > Try also DJ Spooky -Rhythm Science (the book, not the album) > > > At 12:39 am +0000 16/1/05, xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx wrote: >> Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 17:50:05 -0500 >> To: Microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> >> From: "tobias c. van Veen" <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> >> Subject: The Turntable - Charles Mudede >> Message-ID: <BE0F084D.1A2CC%xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> >> >> The Turntable >> Charles Mudede >> >> >> http://www.ctheory.net/text_file.asp?pick=382 >> >> "Scratch 1 >> >> The line between electronic and live music is unbroken. The forms may appear >> impressively distinct but they are organized around the same act: playing a >> musical instrument (a keyboard, drum pads, so on). In electronic music -- >> which finds its most popular moment in the '70s, German band Kraftwerk -- a >> musician plays a musical instrument and is concerned about, for instance, >> the key he/she is playing in. This is not the case with hiphop. Hiphop is >> organized around the act of replaying music; and it is this act, replaying, >> that marks the real rupture in the mode or method of production." >> >> [...] >> >> tobias c. van Veen -----------++++ >> http://www.quadrantcrossing.org -- >> http://www.thisistheonlyart.com -- >> McGill Communication + Philosophy >> ICQ: 18766209 | AIM: thesaibot +++ > tobias c. van Veen -----------++++ http://www.quadrantcrossing.org -- http://www.thisistheonlyart.com -- McGill Communication + Philosophy ICQ: 18766209 | AIM: thesaibot +++ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Jan 16 17:15:29 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33878-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.111]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 12:15:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 16 Jan 2005 12:15:29 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 87647 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 16 Jan 2005 17:15:26 +0000 Received: (qmail 87637 invoked from network); Sun, 16 Jan 2005 17:15:26 +0000 Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 09:15:24 -0800 From: Phil Thomson <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Tim Hecker email To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: Phil Thomson <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=A+r5d4yCVS0QbHubfsBMNz5XUvIhwPiH8w+b4yIjseWj6lcQPmQxWBt96ZbecdNLhV4GomDPpUwW0GiCbFd1oqYl3+nzJeFXDnBEjTt0sUTZzKwVwe7CWnHgrVAtjZeL9teL3Cvf4gTp2CaE61WF1ZMK8VrI+DPbV84IHzGvtVY= X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Hi all, Looking to contact Tim Hecker for the sonus gallery. If someone knows how to reach him, could you email me *offlist*? Phil -- Phil Thomson xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx { home: http://www.sfu.ca/~pthomson/ { blog: http://www.bloglines.com/blog/PhilThomson { label: http://centibel.org/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Jan 16 16:54:46 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33877-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 11:54:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 16 Jan 2005 11:54:46 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 81499 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 16 Jan 2005 16:54:41 +0000 Received: (qmail 81489 invoked from network); Sun, 16 Jan 2005 16:54:40 +0000 Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 11:54:32 -0500 (EST) From: xxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx Subject: [microsound] ST. Louis - sunday. jan 16th To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Thunderbird - Mac OS X sub 24 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_nd03uub8gWqP+48XsUuWIQ)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_nd03uub8gWqP+48XsUuWIQ) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit hello all in st. louis...tonight at the lemp neighborhood arts center (lemp-arts.org) a show of experimental and noise music: performing will be: n-tron: from ohio. amazing realtime casette manipulation leslie keffer: also from ohio. droney hybrid of tapes, circuit bent instruments, and processors. locals: eric hall mark sarich ghost ice more info is at lemp-arts.org thanks! - j --Boundary_(ID_nd03uub8gWqP+48XsUuWIQ)-- From ???@??? Sun Jan 16 16:30:30 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33876-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.109]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 11:30:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 16 Jan 2005 11:30:29 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 75374 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 16 Jan 2005 16:30:27 +0000 Received: (qmail 75364 invoked from network); Sun, 16 Jan 2005 16:30:26 +0000 Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 11:30:24 -0500 From: billy <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] microsound vs. DJ culture In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx in the "History of Music" there is a significant tradition of reinterpretation or integration or quoting or re-arrangement of previous original works. it is not so common in the "History of Contemporary Music" b/c of images of the individualist associated with rock/roll. i feel one of the problems w/ "remix culture" is that it has a tendency to be lazy/thoughtless. which musically comes off more as a listing of current fads in DIY production than as a statement or poetic abstraction. (see relative sustainability of "movements" in remix culture. in general, i see music currently being permeated more by small micro-movemnts, so maybe i shouldn't generalize TOO much) i understand as a weird consumer-style tendency - to consume and expel as much as possible. (for a fine indictment of sampling, see eddie prevost's new book p.21 - 'ascendancy of sound over sense') it is hard for me to draw lines like "smart sampling" or "dumb remixing" but i'm feeling the pressure of those qualifiers - and i DO have a fondness for a great sampling or ecstatic remix (a couple of regular dj mixes do populate my itunes) hm. b. > hi > > ( 05.01.15 23:48 +0200 ) Christos Carras: >> it seems to me that the re-use of tracks is dangerously close to >> manifesting a cultural problem, viz the inability of the contemporary >> subject (consumer and artist) to break through the mirror and >> establish an individual and / or open relation to the world of sound. > > but that is how they establish an individual and open releationship to > the world of sound- by re-using the material. instead of thinking of > the > available world as 'sounds you can make with a piano' or 'sounds you > can > make with a couple of guitars, drums, and a ton of amplification'; this > is 'sounds you can make with electronic audio processing'. > > musicians always try to copy what they like. how many bands try to > sound > like kraftwerk once in a while? re-using [re-contextualizing] sounds > made by others is just a more direct way of acknowledging the > influence. > > so while there are plenty of problems in the world today- i see re-mix > culture as a positive thing, an example of how the creative impulse > refuses to die. > > -- > \js >/*http://or8.net/~johns : ]%-/.$<`] [='.^ > iraq body count: 15,365 [min] 17,582 [max] > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Jan 16 15:25:59 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33874-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 10:25:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 16 Jan 2005 10:25:58 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 57941 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 16 Jan 2005 15:25:56 +0000 Received: (qmail 57930 invoked from network); Sun, 16 Jan 2005 15:25:55 +0000 Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 10:38:56 -0500 From: john saylor <xx@xxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] microsound vs. DJ culture In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx hi ( 05.01.15 23:48 +0200 ) Christos Carras: > it seems to me that the re-use of tracks is dangerously close to > manifesting a cultural problem, viz the inability of the contemporary > subject (consumer and artist) to break through the mirror and > establish an individual and / or open relation to the world of sound. but that is how they establish an individual and open releationship to the world of sound- by re-using the material. instead of thinking of the available world as 'sounds you can make with a piano' or 'sounds you can make with a couple of guitars, drums, and a ton of amplification'; this is 'sounds you can make with electronic audio processing'. musicians always try to copy what they like. how many bands try to sound like kraftwerk once in a while? re-using [re-contextualizing] sounds made by others is just a more direct way of acknowledging the influence. so while there are plenty of problems in the world today- i see re-mix culture as a positive thing, an example of how the creative impulse refuses to die. -- \js >/*http://or8.net/~johns : ]%-/.$<`] [='.^ iraq body count: 15,365 [min] 17,582 [max] --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Jan 16 15:42:13 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33875-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.82]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 10:42:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 16 Jan 2005 10:42:13 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 62452 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 16 Jan 2005 15:42:10 +0000 Received: (qmail 62442 invoked from network); Sun, 16 Jan 2005 15:42:10 +0000 Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 07:34:11 -0800 From: Richard Zvonar <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] books about synthesis In-reply-to: <IAEPLP$xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <p06200706be103809e8b2@[192.168.0.3]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_iTR481iQllVxnyRePV15Zg)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <IAEPLP$xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_iTR481iQllVxnyRePV15Zg) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit At 12:08 PM +0100 1/16/05, lorenzo_brutti\@libero\.it wrote: >i'd like to read some "for dummies" books about synthesis Synthesis is NOT for dummies! However, there are many books for intelligent neophytes. A couple of classics from the analog era, if you can find them, are: Allen Strange. Electronic Music: Systems, Techniques, and Controls Thomas Wells & Eric Vogel. The Technique of Electronic Music A very good history is: Joel Chadabe. Electric Sound: The Past and Promise of Electronic Music -- ______________________________________________________________ Richard Zvonar, PhD (818) 788-2202 http://www.zvonar.com http://salamandersongs.com http://ill-wind.com --Boundary_(ID_iTR481iQllVxnyRePV15Zg)-- From ???@??? Sun Jan 16 13:59:06 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33873-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.112]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 08:59:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 16 Jan 2005 08:59:05 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 37172 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 16 Jan 2005 13:59:02 +0000 Received: (qmail 37162 invoked from network); Sun, 16 Jan 2005 13:59:02 +0000 Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 14:59:00 +0100 (MET) From: Bas Van Heur <xxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] microsound vs. DJ culture To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxx.xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 1.6 (Global Message Exchange) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Authenticated: #17505637 X-Flags: 0001 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > wouldnt it be more correct to say that 'remix culture' is more > capitalist than capitalism? > > the remixer using (without permission and/or payment) the labors of > other workers to further his own capital ('name'/trademark is future > capital). to a certain extent, a probable yes. But such an argument ignores the affective (and embodied) aspect of making and sharing music i.e. why dealing with and listening to sound is so much fun. Reducing this to these kind of static structures brings the death to all creative 'enterprises'. As I come to think of it, maybe it might be useful to think through the consequences of these critiques that see "sharing resources" i.e. dealing with / contemplating on products of others as merely an expression of capitalism. Couldn't it be that this represents a particularly stubborn case of individualist Eurocentric logic (to refer to some of the earlier discussions in this thread)? In any case, black i.e. subaltern i.e. whatever-as-long-as-it-is-not-white voices surely have had less problems with accepting and embracing a collective (or at the very least relational) identity as a strategy of resistance. bas van heur editor / cut.up.magazine / www.cut-up.com -- +++ GMX - die erste Adresse für Mail, Message, More +++ 1 GB Mailbox bereits in GMX FreeMail http://www.gmx.net/de/go/mail --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Jan 16 13:29:00 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33872-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 08:29:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 16 Jan 2005 08:29:00 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 31028 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 16 Jan 2005 13:28:56 +0000 Received: (qmail 31018 invoked from network); Sun, 16 Jan 2005 13:28:56 +0000 Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 13:28:48 +0000 From: Joseph Young <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Re: microsound Digest 16 Jan 2005 00:39:36 -0000 Issue 1331 In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <p06200701be101c2b27cf@[217.43.21.143]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Try also DJ Spooky -Rhythm Science (the book, not the album) At 12:39 am +0000 16/1/05, xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx wrote: >Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 17:50:05 -0500 >To: Microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> >From: "tobias c. van Veen" <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> >Subject: The Turntable - Charles Mudede >Message-ID: <BE0F084D.1A2CC%xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> > >The Turntable >Charles Mudede > > > http://www.ctheory.net/text_file.asp?pick=382 > >"Scratch 1 > >The line between electronic and live music is unbroken. The forms may appear >impressively distinct but they are organized around the same act: playing a >musical instrument (a keyboard, drum pads, so on). In electronic music -- >which finds its most popular moment in the '70s, German band Kraftwerk -- a >musician plays a musical instrument and is concerned about, for instance, >the key he/she is playing in. This is not the case with hiphop. Hiphop is >organized around the act of replaying music; and it is this act, replaying, >that marks the real rupture in the mode or method of production." > >[...] > >tobias c. van Veen -----------++++ >http://www.quadrantcrossing.org -- >http://www.thisistheonlyart.com -- >McGill Communication + Philosophy >ICQ: 18766209 | AIM: thesaibot +++ -- joseph_young "composing with sound" http://www.josephyoung.co.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Jan 16 12:24:56 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33871-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 07:24:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 16 Jan 2005 07:24:56 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 14760 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 16 Jan 2005 12:24:52 +0000 Received: (qmail 14747 invoked from network); Sun, 16 Jan 2005 12:24:51 +0000 Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 13:24:48 +0100 From: Marco Messina <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] R:[microsound] japanese music magazines? In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: "microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BE101BA0.699D%xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_OmmsZ79QmyCn08cezr93ug)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.0.0.040405 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_OmmsZ79QmyCn08cezr93ug) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ciao, check: http://www.realtokyo.co.jp/english/ and afterhours xxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xx-xx.xx.xx marco messina [] [] [] [] [] [] http://www.mousikelab.com/ http://www.novenove.it/ http://www.folderstudio.com/ [] [] [] [] [] [] > > does anyone know of any good japanese music magazines that feature electronic > artists? > > j.frede > current location: los angeles, ca > www.jfrede.com > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > --Boundary_(ID_OmmsZ79QmyCn08cezr93ug)-- From ???@??? Sun Jan 16 11:55:21 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33870-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 06:55:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 16 Jan 2005 06:55:20 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 2505 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 16 Jan 2005 11:55:16 +0000 Received: (qmail 2495 invoked from network); Sun, 16 Jan 2005 11:55:16 +0000 Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 12:55:11 +0100 From: Sofus Forsberg <xxxxx@xxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] books about synthesis In-reply-to: <IAEPLP$xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BE1014AF.4635%xxxxx@xxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/9.0.2509 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx hi i would that "the computer music turorial" by curtis roads is very good reading. not just on synthesis. sofus > hello dudes, > i'd like to read some "for dummies" books about synthesis: techniques, history > and so on... > can you suggest me some titles? > > byethanks > lorenzo > > -.- > np. the mothers of invention.freak out! > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > Libero ADSL: 3 mesi gratis e navighi a 1.2 Mega. E poi hai l'Adsl senza limiti > a meno di 1 euro al giorno. > Abbonati subito senza costi di attivazione su http://www.libero.it > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Jan 16 11:37:31 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33869-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.82]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 06:37:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 16 Jan 2005 06:37:31 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 97922 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 16 Jan 2005 11:37:24 +0000 Received: (qmail 97912 invoked from network); Sun, 16 Jan 2005 11:37:23 +0000 Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 03:37:22 -0800 (PST) From: Jason Thomas <xxxx@xxxxx-xxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] books about synthesis In-reply-to: <IAEPLP$xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Computer Music by Dodge and Jerse is a good standard and starting point. Regarding the history aspect of your question, I have a few more specific recommendations: Historical CD of Computer Synthesis, WERGO, WE152-3. Contains several of the first computer synthesized pieces (and psychoacoustic experiments) realized at Bell Telephone Laboratories. Also contains an excellent booklet with explanations and Risset's introductory catalog of sounds. James Tenney, Selected Works 1961-69, New World Records. Good liner notes in booklet insert describing several of the works contained in the CD, many of which were also realized at bell. Electro-Acoustic Music, Barry Schrader (No longer in print, contains overview of several techniques and interviews with several composers.) First issue of Die Reihe, covering electronic music in the WDR studio, edited by Stockhausen and Eimert, includes Stockhausen's article on Study No. 2. An English edition of all 8 volumes was printed by presser, possibly available to you via an academic library. Not sure about your specific interests but these are good starting points. Later, Jason --- "xxxxxxx_xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx" <xxxxxxx_xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> wrote: > hello dudes, > i'd like to read some "for dummies" books about > synthesis: techniques, history > and so on... > can you suggest me some titles? > > byethanks > lorenzo > > -.- > np. the mothers of invention.freak out! > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > Libero ADSL: 3 mesi gratis e navighi a 1.2 Mega. E > poi hai l'Adsl senza limiti a meno di 1 euro al > giorno. > Abbonati subito senza costi di attivazione su > http://www.libero.it > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > ===== Jason Thomas 346 N. 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Sun Jan 16 11:08:20 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33868-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 06:08:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 16 Jan 2005 06:08:20 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 89259 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 16 Jan 2005 11:08:21 +0000 Received: (qmail 89249 invoked from network); Sun, 16 Jan 2005 11:08:20 +0000 Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 12:08:13 +0100 From: "xxxxxxx_xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx" <xxxxxxx_xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] books about synthesis To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <IAEPLP$xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Sensitivity: 3 X-XaM3-API-Version: 4.1 (B27pl2) X-type: 0 X-SenderIP: 82.51.95.31 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at libero.it serv4 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx hello dudes, i'd like to read some "for dummies" books about synthesis: techniques, history and so on... can you suggest me some titles? byethanks lorenzo -.- np. the mothers of invention.freak out! ____________________________________________________________ Libero ADSL: 3 mesi gratis e navighi a 1.2 Mega. 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Sun Jan 16 10:46:55 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33867-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.114]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 05:46:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 16 Jan 2005 05:46:54 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 82167 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 16 Jan 2005 10:46:26 +0000 Received: (qmail 82155 invoked from network); Sun, 16 Jan 2005 10:46:25 +0000 Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 02:46:19 -0800 From: Phil Thomson <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] WebHosts page on the Twiki To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: Phil Thomson <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=R184KPt1627KLiYw9DxiR3yWKLnB8ueOiFfp8WT5V0YbYATRvfsg0IElI4Kfea45C/Tn78gdiRjrhkRZeF8Pxn5zoSyzrNqXGcx8VPRri6Qf+waYfxDTiTrkA0FFE3SlCHEYWLrxkbHUIVwWXaNWEELQ9E2GMxQl1S+4ya7xDnk= X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Hi all, I am nearing the end of my MFA, and will soon no longer have access to my SFU webspace and SSH account. 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Link to main page: http://microsound.nexthop.net/bin/view.cgi/Main/WebHome Link to new WebHosts page: http://microsound.nexthop.net/bin/view.cgi/Main/WebHosts Phil -- Phil Thomson xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx { home: http://www.sfu.ca/~pthomson/ { blog: http://www.bloglines.com/blog/PhilThomson { label: http://centibel.org/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Jan 16 08:10:24 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33866-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.83]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 03:10:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 16 Jan 2005 03:10:24 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 55869 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 16 Jan 2005 08:10:25 +0000 Received: (qmail 55857 invoked from network); Sun, 16 Jan 2005 08:10:24 +0000 Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 09:10:16 +0100 From: "jan.larsson" <xx@xxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] microsound vs. DJ culture In-reply-to: <BE0F6E5D.1A2F4%xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> X-Originating-IP: 83.227.119.238 To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Mail-Handler: MailHop Outbound by DynDNS.org X-Report-Abuse-To: xxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx (see http://www.mailhop.org/outbound/abuse.html for abuse reporting information) X-MHO-User: mockba X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <BE0F6E5D.1A2F4%xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx ? what writings of marx are you referring to? wouldnt it be more correct to say that 'remix culture' is more capitalist than capitalism? the remixer using (without permission and/or payment) the labors of other workers to further his own capital ('name'/trademark is future capital). 2005-01-16 kl. 07.05 skrev tobias c. van Veen: > direction? After all, it is more Marx than Marx: property in remix > culture, > theoretically at least, is a shared kind of "resource" (although the --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Jan 16 06:05:44 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33865-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 01:05:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 16 Jan 2005 01:05:43 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 28358 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 16 Jan 2005 06:05:39 +0000 Received: (qmail 28345 invoked from network); Sun, 16 Jan 2005 06:05:39 +0000 Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 01:05:33 -0500 From: "tobias c. van Veen" <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] microsound vs. DJ culture In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> To: Christos Carras <xxx@xxxxxx.xx> Cc: Microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BE0F6E5D.1A2F4%xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.4.030702.0 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx hi Christo, Thanks for these excellent thoughts. I guess what I am boiling down to is the persistence of "criticism" or the "critic." I'd rather entertain the idea of investigating systems of complexity which counterpoint to studies on affect, relays, forces. There are different ways of saying this. And that what often irks me are theories of "aesthetic" "critique" that imply certain ethical and epistemological universals. To knock on a couple of things you mention below .. I don't think it's ever necessary to feel one is "real" to hip-hop. I think this is missing the point -- too many cultural studies academics wring their hands without ever stopping to think that perhaps the issue is "critique" in the first place, or the fact that no one is born to hip-hop, or anything else: you've just gotta be down with it, i.e., show some interest in learning more about it .. if there's a territorial "keep-out" attitude to hip-hop which claims that you've got to be "keepin' it real" to get it, a little research will also show, within hip-hop, those who disagree with that kind of exclusivity. So join the party. I.e., what matters is that one grants one's object of study the latitude from which to develop a relation with its environment, further, an articulation of that surrounding (a re-definition feedback loop). You suggested something quite similar at the end of your first email; we should simply extend that idea one step further to accept that this very criterion might be subject to reconstruction and displacement via the process itself. This makes things more difficult than most people want to -- I think most of us would much rather take shortcuts. Unfortunately this leaves us with perhaps well-meaning essays that look ridiculous with the passing of time, because they don't take the time to reflect on the variable alterations of that which is under discussion. The question as to where this leaves one as a "critical listener" perhaps might lead one to remix whether "critical" is the point of entry of "listening" .. to rethink the context in which "critical" became the criterion itself of analysis. As for Adorno.. I see no reason why the reappropriation of counter-culture invalidates its affect and effects, nor reduces its force, historical agency, its struggles, ruptures and archives... to say otherwise would be to _grant the cultures and structures of reappropriation--what is usually called "consumer capitalism," i.e. but also the right--its power without question_. Adorno's analysis often has the uncanny effect of rendering capital's control much stronger, perhaps, than it is. There is a degree of negative fatalism at work in an analysis that so strongly dismisses that which makes us happy. Making weird music wouldn't have magically solved the issue of reappropriation of counterculture. True, Captain Beefheart hasn't been resold (yet) as Volkswagon ads, but neither did he start a revolution. Nor do you hear him all that often these days .. The cycle of reappropriation perhaps has to be distinctly thought from that of capitalism and the culture industries. Recycling is the basis of remix culture, which sees the sharing of art and music as positive rather than negative. Could Adorno have dug an understanding of property in this direction? After all, it is more Marx than Marx: property in remix culture, theoretically at least, is a shared kind of "resource" (although the reality, as I've recently written elsewhere, is far more along the lines of wanting to have one's cake and eat it too -- owning a remix, etc. -- there is much work to be done, I feel, in seeing where this is leading us...). Adorno should have read more Hunter S. Thompson. Thanks again Christos -- enough from me for a bit .. best, tobias > Hi Tobias > > that was interesting. > >> Q-- >> >> Although I am wondering why are you comparing "'mainstream' dj practice" >> with Stockhausen et al? >> >> Wouldn't a better example be Janek Schaefer with Stockhausen? >> Or, Algorithm with Berio? >> How about Q-Bert with Mahler? >> >> > My comparison was a reaction to another post where i think i saw a > "genealogy" being drawn from Stockhausen and Varese to DJ culture. but > you're right that one should compare mainstream to mainstream... > >> For certainly Stockhausen is not a "mainstream composer" -- perhaps the >> equivalent to "mainstream dj practice" would be Vivaldi.. >> >> Stockhausen's Telemusic with John Oswald's Plunderphonics? >> >> There has to be a fair and accurate example from each genre.. each of which >> is not a genre at all, per se, but a conceptual differentiation in the >> approach to sound. >> >> The tension you speak of in new music may not exist in dj culture for the >> reason that this tension holds less meaning in a music originating from >> recorded music. Although even then this tension certainly also exists, say, >> in remix culture and where this meets dj culture (say Negativland, John >> Oswald, also Kid Koala, DJ Danger Mouse, etc). But this tension is not the >> primary affect nor effect of a dj set orientated at ritual gathering, for >> example, in which the tension is not over the conceptual understanding of >> icon and property, but rather in the purely sonic event (which is more >> "musical" than Stockhausen, in a sense). >> >> > and this in turn raises the question of how much does one include in > criticism. to take another Adorno example: he once wrote something to > the effect that he could never consider a song writtten with traditional > harmonic structures, cadences etc to be a real vehicle for criticism of > the Vietnam war. this approach evacuates the dimension of reception and > the social identification that a song provides, perhaps a vital part of > any anti-war movement (or any movement for that matter). with the > benefit of hindsight, when we see how easily "counter culture" was > recuperated by (sorry) the culture industry, maybe there is a point here. > >> One a tradition _from_ recorded sound (dj culture); the other, with history >> and aesthetic categories developed _before_ recorded sound. Of course both >> are intraweaved extensively. But to continue with a categorical separation, >> dj culture cannot exist sans recordable media. Thus its aesthetic is >> developed from recordable media as its conditions of possibility. New music, >> while incorporating recorded media, works with an aesthetic inherited from a >> history of music grounded in performance by players of specific >> bodily-involved instruments. This is only one aspect of difference in >> respect to media and technology; there are also socio-political, cultural >> differences in the context in which music is made and produced. Dj culture >> very much, I think, engages a culture of carnival, which has its own >> histories in both European and other cultures. We could also speak of sonic >> territory in the birth of djing in Jamaica, the hip-hop ensemble in NYC, the >> shamanistic role of the dj in what Maffesoli and Graham St John call >> "neo-tribal" cultures, etc. >> >> > indeed, there are "socio-political, cultural differences in the context > in which music is made and produced". but then do we need to understand > them in depth to be able to formulate a criticism of the music? in all > honesty, i don't think i'll ever be in a position to intimately > understand the specificity of NYC hip-hop ensembles (and i would hazard > a guess that for most of the people who listen to hip-hop, the social > specificity is more an object of "safe" phantasm than real > identification), so where does that leave me as a critical listener? > assuming many musics do establish a sonic territory and even that this > territory may be the scene of a politicaly charged struggle do they > automatically get the benefit, as music, of whatever support one might > want to give that particular struggle? > >> And each example also loses its status as such: we would have to do so from >> the acquisition of two approaches to two histories of sound (two >> singularities that are also differential in theme). Just as we recognise >> Stockhausen's individuality (by the criteria you propose), we would have to >> recognise Q-Bert's, for example; although perhaps should we not consider >> Q-Bert from an aesthetic pertaining to that particular themeatic approach? >> Ie, to analyse Q-Bert through the complex narratology he engages in hip-hop >> (the same could be done with Dj Shadow, which at one point I likened, to >> much chagrin from critics, to Proust), but also to the development of unique >> skill (his crab-scratch) and forms of scratch-notation. Likewise, Janek >> Schaefer has redesigned the turntable instrument while Martin Tetreault has >> deconstructed the turntable as apparatus. >> >> >> >> > maybe a fundamental question is whether there really are many parallel > value systems for any particular critic. not to confuse what i might > enjoy with what i can build a critical discourse around. > but i take note and shall go and listen! > > tara > > cc > tobias c. van Veen -----------++++ http://www.quadrantcrossing.org -- http://www.thisistheonlyart.com -- McGill Communication + Philosophy ICQ: 18766209 | AIM: thesaibot +++ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Jan 16 03:13:59 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33864-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 22:13:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 15 Jan 2005 22:13:58 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 92551 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 16 Jan 2005 03:13:58 +0000 Received: (qmail 92539 invoked from network); Sun, 16 Jan 2005 03:13:58 +0000 Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 04:13:54 +0100 From: Arie van Schutterhoef <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] new release / rotor plus In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx.xx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <l03130308be0f8c19bd78@[213.84.105.55]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <l03130307be0f8803c78e@[213.84.105.55]> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> <l03130307be0f8803c78e@[213.84.105.55]> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >I also saw a helicopter drop a swimming pool in a lake 'true -Thus: case proven. If any... AvS . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ...................................................................... ` |Schreck Ensemble . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . + ` |# -laboratory for live electro-acoustic music- # | | http://www.schreck.nl/ | | http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/ | ` *===========================================================++ ` |Compositions http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/compo.html | ` |Samples http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/samp.html | ` |Patches http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/pat.html | ` |Videos http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/video.html | ` |Scores http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/scores.html | *===========================================================++ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ...................................................................... --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Jan 16 03:07:19 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33863-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.83]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 22:07:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 15 Jan 2005 22:07:19 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 88112 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 16 Jan 2005 03:07:18 +0000 Received: (qmail 88092 invoked from network); Sun, 16 Jan 2005 03:07:18 +0000 Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 16:07:09 +1300 From: Simon Kong <xxx@xxxxxxx.xx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] new release / rotor plus In-reply-to: <l03130307be0f8803c78e@[213.84.105.55]> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx.xx> Organization: www.obscure.co.nz MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (Macintosh/20040913) X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> <l03130307be0f8803c78e@[213.84.105.55]> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Arie van Schutterhoef wrote: >>most loverly microsounder >>rotor plus > > -Condoms & Helicopters required... > (Just being a nuissance, so ignore when needed...) > I learned yesterday that a lavender oil is a prophylactic ! :and that a prophylactic is anything that block disease I also saw a helicopter drop a swimming pool in a lake 'true .simon --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Jan 16 02:58:13 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33862-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.109]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 21:58:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 15 Jan 2005 21:58:13 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 84322 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 16 Jan 2005 02:58:12 +0000 Received: (qmail 84312 invoked from network); Sun, 16 Jan 2005 02:58:12 +0000 Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 03:58:07 +0100 From: Arie van Schutterhoef <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] new release / rotor plus In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx.xx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <l03130307be0f8803c78e@[213.84.105.55]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >most loverly microsounder >rotor plus -Condoms & Helicopters required... (Just being a nuissance, so ignore when needed...) AvS . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ...................................................................... ` |Schreck Ensemble . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . + ` |# -laboratory for live electro-acoustic music- # | | http://www.schreck.nl/ | | http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/ | ` *===========================================================++ ` |Compositions http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/compo.html | ` |Samples http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/samp.html | ` |Patches http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/pat.html | ` |Videos http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/video.html | ` |Scores http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/scores.html | *===========================================================++ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ...................................................................... --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Jan 16 02:27:51 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33861-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 21:27:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 15 Jan 2005 21:27:50 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 77283 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 16 Jan 2005 02:27:49 +0000 Received: (qmail 77273 invoked from network); Sun, 16 Jan 2005 02:27:49 +0000 Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 15:27:04 +1300 From: Simon Kong <xxx@xxxxxxx.xx.xx> Subject: [microsound] new release / rotor plus In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx.xx> Organization: www.obscure.co.nz MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (Macintosh/20040913) X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx new release from arguably New Zealand's most loverly microsounder rotor plus MAP KEY WINDOW http://www.rtcnz.com/ rotor plus ' is generationaly one of our oldest electronic artist know under many guise and soundforms with rotor plus being the quietest and possibly the most fitting form the latest release consists of three simply titled tracks beginning middle end (with video viewable on the website) escape into the eternal understanding of memories ' like quite walks in the garden or sushi lunches with friends . waking up at dance parties or bicycles, kites & summer, nighttime alone rotor plus is a unique connection to the land the people and the stories that are New Zealand ' it is careful illustration of talent and time, composed with a cherish and love that makes the special qualities of rotor plus glisten like electric dew drops ' full of hope, musings, laughter and a few upsets . some innocence questions and ancient understandings ' urban brashness dissipates into the clear distortion of the pacific sky as we like to say down here . 'good on ya mate' .simon --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Jan 16 01:36:54 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33860-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 20:36:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 15 Jan 2005 20:36:54 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 65520 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 16 Jan 2005 01:36:52 +0000 Received: (qmail 65510 invoked from network); Sun, 16 Jan 2005 01:36:52 +0000 Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 19:36:45 -0600 From: Jeremy Dickens <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Sounds from Saturn's rings In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Lots of good Huygens sound information can be found at http://www.planetary.org/sounds/huygens_sounds.html and http://www.esa.int/esaCP/SEM85Q71Y3E_index_0.html The ESA page features a recording generated by the radar returns (rather than of an acoustical nature) that is really quite nice. Needless to say, I'm working on some pieces based on these sources. Anyone else? Jeremy PS - Gino - John Sharp sends his regards! Jeremy Dickens / Logickal Offnominal Audio Discrepancy Recordings PO Box 290692, Nashville, TN 37229-0692 http://www.offnominal.com xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx On Jan 14, 2005, at 5:27 PM, Robair, Gino wrote: > Folks, > I don't remember seeing this on the list (apologies if it's already > been posted, but it might be worth another listen): > > http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/cassini/multimedia/pia06410.html > > <<This movie shows the Cassini spacecraft as it flew in and out of > Saturn's ring plane, with accompanying sounds recorded by Cassini's > radio and plasma wave science instrument. On June 30, 2004, the > spacecraft crossed the ring plane, where its high-gain antenna was > bombarded with dust particles that produced this cacophony of sound > reminiscent of a hailstorm. Exciting the rings produces similar sights > and sounds, which are seen at the end of the movie. > The graph at the bottom of the movie corresponds to the sound waves, > highlighting changes in intensity. >> > http://www.nasa.gov/mov/61980main_PIA06410-Sounds-movie.mov > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Jan 16 01:13:45 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33859-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.110]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 20:13:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 15 Jan 2005 20:13:45 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 57970 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 16 Jan 2005 01:13:41 +0000 Received: (qmail 57960 invoked from network); Sun, 16 Jan 2005 01:13:41 +0000 Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 17:13:37 -0800 (PST) From: Renick Bell <xxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Finding Balance mp3s In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=udTsHoKOLCNmaXqgyrOlXfN//jeYJmxewjQAqZLhNnV7EGvypxAcxZwD25SwGk4RinIJwvRwn5FznJFAmyhdkf7IlXd/AZAKgqHv0GUbeBRpqTRs76ygugGbVISvDNHkDQF1uFpOBiD7ojCWKlNxv97VbRTAzxVMyk49Xxba2Ms= ; X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Previously unreleased EP from The Third Second... beats noise ambient soundscape glitch electronic electroacoustic download free: Side A (14:42): http://the3rd2nd.com/fb/01_A.mp3 Side B (15:02): http://the3rd2nd.com/fb/02_B.mp3 Info: http://the3rd2nd.com/the3rd2nd/archives/000019.html#000019 More mp3s at: http://the3rd2nd.com/the3rd2nd/archives/cat_releases.html Enjoy! ===== Renick Bell http://www.the3rd2nd.com __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 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Sun Jan 16 00:39:37 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33858-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 19:39:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 15 Jan 2005 19:39:37 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 46188 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 16 Jan 2005 00:39:35 +0000 Received: (qmail 46177 invoked from network); Sun, 16 Jan 2005 00:39:35 +0000 Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 01:39:26 +0100 From: Davide Morelli <xxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] R: [microsound] ? for Csounders In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <KKEHKBKMENKGANGNKPPIMEECCPAA.xxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx if you run CSound on Windows you should try the Maldonado version of CSound: CsoundAV it is focused on realtime. http://www.csounds.com/csoundav/ an example of what can be dome with it is this excellend granular sw: DensityShell downloadable at http://www.alessandro-petrolati.com/ dm > -----Messaggio originale----- > Da: jeff gburek [mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx] > Inviato: sabato 15 gennaio 2005 17.42 > A: microsound > Oggetto: [microsound] ? for Csounders > > > > microsounders, can anyone tell me about Csound's > audioin opcode? i'd like to add live input capacity to > the Cecilia program I am running and Cecilia runs atop > Csound..any leads appreciated... jg > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! 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Sat Jan 15 23:35:08 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33857-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 18:35:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 15 Jan 2005 18:35:08 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 24501 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 15 Jan 2005 23:35:06 +0000 Received: (qmail 24491 invoked from network); Sat, 15 Jan 2005 23:35:06 +0000 Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 17:34:56 -0600 From: Francisco Alvarez Alvarez <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: RE: [microsound] microsound vs. DJ culture In-reply-to: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> X-Originating-IP: [81.41.182.101] X-Sender: xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Bcc: Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Originating-Email: [xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Jan 2005 23:35:03.0101 (UTC) FILETIME=[D61C16D0:01C4FB5A] "And in phenomenal existence there is nothing that is independent of everything else. Given that there is Continuity, everything is a degree or aspect of whatever everything else is. Consequently there is no way of defining anything, except in terms of itself. Try any alleged definition. What is an island? An island is a body of land completely surrounded by water. And what is a body of land that is completely surrounded by water? " Charles Hoy Fort. "Lo!", 1931 _________________________________________________________________ T1msn Search. Todo lo que buscas ahora más rapido http://search.t1msn.com.mx/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Jan 15 22:57:20 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33856-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 17:57:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 15 Jan 2005 17:57:20 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 13098 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 15 Jan 2005 22:57:18 +0000 Received: (qmail 13088 invoked from network); Sat, 15 Jan 2005 22:57:18 +0000 Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 23:56:39 +0100 From: sk-1 <xx-x@xx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Sounds from Saturn's rings In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > graham miller wrote: > >> the titan shots are far out right now... this is so exciting. >> >> alien oceans of methane... >> >> is huygens recording any actual sound on titan? >> >> http://www.esrin.esa.it/export/esaCP/SEM85Q71Y3E_index_0.html Sk --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Jan 15 22:56:32 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33855-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 17:56:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 15 Jan 2005 17:56:31 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 12027 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 15 Jan 2005 22:56:30 +0000 Received: (qmail 12016 invoked from network); Sat, 15 Jan 2005 22:56:30 +0000 Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 23:56:26 +0100 From: Arie van Schutterhoef <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] microsound vs. DJ culture In-reply-to: <BE0F0742.1A2C4%xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <l03130305be0f4ea64c69@[213.84.105.55]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >The tension you speak of in new music -Isn't that also an intellectual tension? I'm not sure DJ Culture has that... AvS BTW: I feel in this respect that the intellectual tension felt by Stockhausen originates from the cultural devastation, that occured after WW2 in Europe. Which was felt througout generations after that and until recently this seems to have been mastered in some kind of way. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ...................................................................... ` |Schreck Ensemble . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . + ` |# -laboratory for live electro-acoustic music- # | | http://www.schreck.nl/ | | http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/ | ` *===========================================================++ ` |Compositions http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/compo.html | ` |Samples http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/samp.html | ` |Patches http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/pat.html | ` |Videos http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/video.html | ` |Scores http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/scores.html | *===========================================================++ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ...................................................................... --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Jan 15 22:50:11 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33854-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 17:50:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 15 Jan 2005 17:50:11 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 9941 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 15 Jan 2005 22:50:10 +0000 Received: (qmail 9930 invoked from network); Sat, 15 Jan 2005 22:50:10 +0000 Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 17:50:05 -0500 From: "tobias c. van Veen" <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] The Turntable - Charles Mudede To: Microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BE0F084D.1A2CC%xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.4.030702.0 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx The Turntable Charles Mudede http://www.ctheory.net/text_file.asp?pick=382 "Scratch 1 The line between electronic and live music is unbroken. The forms may appear impressively distinct but they are organized around the same act: playing a musical instrument (a keyboard, drum pads, so on). In electronic music -- which finds its most popular moment in the '70s, German band Kraftwerk -- a musician plays a musical instrument and is concerned about, for instance, the key he/she is playing in. This is not the case with hiphop. Hiphop is organized around the act of replaying music; and it is this act, replaying, that marks the real rupture in the mode or method of production." [...] tobias c. van Veen -----------++++ http://www.quadrantcrossing.org -- http://www.thisistheonlyart.com -- McGill Communication + Philosophy ICQ: 18766209 | AIM: thesaibot +++ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Jan 15 22:48:38 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33853-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.83]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 17:48:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 15 Jan 2005 17:48:37 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 8245 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 15 Jan 2005 22:48:31 +0000 Received: (qmail 8235 invoked from network); Sat, 15 Jan 2005 22:48:31 +0000 Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 23:48:27 +0100 From: Arie van Schutterhoef <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] microsound vs. DJ culture In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <l03130304be0f4cf3e600@[213.84.105.55]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >(as charlemagne palestine has pointed out, a good interval or amount of >cognac) -I think I would agree with charlemagne palestine, but not with his choice of cognag (Martell VS), Although I think he uses it as a kind of daily grease. He's a very kind man, I don't think he would mind me saying this, on the cognac we would probably (dis)agree... AvS . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ...................................................................... ` |Schreck Ensemble . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . + ` |# -laboratory for live electro-acoustic music- # | | http://www.schreck.nl/ | | http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/ | ` *===========================================================++ ` |Compositions http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/compo.html | ` |Samples http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/samp.html | ` |Patches http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/pat.html | ` |Videos http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/video.html | ` |Scores http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/scores.html | *===========================================================++ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ...................................................................... --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Jan 15 22:45:47 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33852-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 17:45:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 15 Jan 2005 17:45:47 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 6536 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 15 Jan 2005 22:45:43 +0000 Received: (qmail 6526 invoked from network); Sat, 15 Jan 2005 22:45:43 +0000 Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 17:45:38 -0500 From: "tobias c. van Veen" <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] microsound vs. DJ culture In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> To: Microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Cc: Christos Carras <xxx@xxxxxx.xx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BE0F0742.1A2C4%xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.4.030702.0 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx dear c, These are excellent observations and well spoken .. Q-- Although I am wondering why are you comparing "'mainstream' dj practice" with Stockhausen et al? Wouldn't a better example be Janek Schaefer with Stockhausen? Or, Algorithm with Berio? How about Q-Bert with Mahler? For certainly Stockhausen is not a "mainstream composer" -- perhaps the equivalent to "mainstream dj practice" would be Vivaldi.. Stockhausen's Telemusic with John Oswald's Plunderphonics? There has to be a fair and accurate example from each genre.. each of which is not a genre at all, per se, but a conceptual differentiation in the approach to sound. The tension you speak of in new music may not exist in dj culture for the reason that this tension holds less meaning in a music originating from recorded music. Although even then this tension certainly also exists, say, in remix culture and where this meets dj culture (say Negativland, John Oswald, also Kid Koala, DJ Danger Mouse, etc). But this tension is not the primary affect nor effect of a dj set orientated at ritual gathering, for example, in which the tension is not over the conceptual understanding of icon and property, but rather in the purely sonic event (which is more "musical" than Stockhausen, in a sense). One a tradition _from_ recorded sound (dj culture); the other, with history and aesthetic categories developed _before_ recorded sound. Of course both are intraweaved extensively. But to continue with a categorical separation, dj culture cannot exist sans recordable media. Thus its aesthetic is developed from recordable media as its conditions of possibility. New music, while incorporating recorded media, works with an aesthetic inherited from a history of music grounded in performance by players of specific bodily-involved instruments. This is only one aspect of difference in respect to media and technology; there are also socio-political, cultural differences in the context in which music is made and produced. Dj culture very much, I think, engages a culture of carnival, which has its own histories in both European and other cultures. We could also speak of sonic territory in the birth of djing in Jamaica, the hip-hop ensemble in NYC, the shamanistic role of the dj in what Maffesoli and Graham St John call "neo-tribal" cultures, etc. And each example also loses its status as such: we would have to do so from the acquisition of two approaches to two histories of sound (two singularities that are also differential in theme). Just as we recognise Stockhausen's individuality (by the criteria you propose), we would have to recognise Q-Bert's, for example; although perhaps should we not consider Q-Bert from an aesthetic pertaining to that particular themeatic approach? Ie, to analyse Q-Bert through the complex narratology he engages in hip-hop (the same could be done with Dj Shadow, which at one point I likened, to much chagrin from critics, to Proust), but also to the development of unique skill (his crab-scratch) and forms of scratch-notation. Likewise, Janek Schaefer has redesigned the turntable instrument while Martin Tetreault has deconstructed the turntable as apparatus. This differentiation thus has to approach the criteria you propose at the end, namely, > viz the inability > of the contemporary subject (consumer and artist) to break through the > mirror and establish an individual and / or open relation to the world > of sound. --> This criterion, however, must be subject to question from the vantage of dj culture, insofar as the latter proposes _its own_ aesthetic criteria (and debates, contradictions, paradoxes, etc., "within" its constitutive boundaries). best, tobias > b) dj culture: what does the practice of 'recombining' existing musics > tell us about our culture, especially when we elevate it to the level > that dj-ing purports to achieve. using other musics in compositions is > certainly nothing new. a european approach can be found in Mahler and > later Berio of course (to mention just them) and an american approach is > Ives. but the way that composers use "found sounds" including "found > music" has a tension, either through montage that explicitly reveals the > facticity of the process or through the shock value (for example > Stockhausen's Telemusic or Hymnen) because of the way it corodes > established sound-icons. from the [very] little i know about > "mainstream" dj practice, it seems to me that the re-use of tracks is > dangerously close to manifesting a cultural problem, viz the inability > of the contemporary subject (consumer and artist) to break through the > mirror and establish an individual and / or open relation to the world > of sound. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Jan 15 22:25:15 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33849-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.109]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 17:25:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 15 Jan 2005 17:25:15 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 98604 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 15 Jan 2005 22:25:10 +0000 Received: (qmail 98593 invoked from network); Sat, 15 Jan 2005 22:25:09 +0000 Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 17:33:10 -0500 From: Matthew Mitchell <xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] microsound vs. DJ culture To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: EarthLink MailBox 5.05.11 (Windows) Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_a8EC0L++NDVozN/QSwJrAA)" X-Priority: Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-EM-Version: 5, 0, 0, 0 X-EM-Registration: #3003520714B31D032830 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_a8EC0L++NDVozN/QSwJrAA) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I fourth that...-mm the re-use of tracks is dangerously close to manifesting a cultural problem, viz the inability of the contemporary subject (consumer and artist) to break through the mirror and establish an individual and / or open relation to the world of sound. -I think the supportive exclimation in some cultures would be formulated in the word: bingo! In all modesty I would like to express there might be some truth in your observation... AvS www.mattmitchell.us Download and listen to free music, sign the guestbook, read the blog! --Boundary_(ID_a8EC0L++NDVozN/QSwJrAA)-- From ???@??? Sat Jan 15 22:28:56 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33850-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.81]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 17:28:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 15 Jan 2005 17:28:56 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 378 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 15 Jan 2005 22:28:55 +0000 Received: (qmail 366 invoked from network); Sat, 15 Jan 2005 22:28:54 +0000 Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 14:28:51 -0800 (PST) From: xxxxxxx@x.xxxxxxxxxx.xxx Subject: Re: [microsound] ? for Csounders In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx@xxxxxx.x.xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx I believe you use the in (ins for stereo, inq or quad) opcode. You've got to specify where Csound should get the sound by using the -i flag I believe, ala csound -i stdin -o ... -s ... (http://www.lakewoodsound.com/csound/hypertext/sigio/in.htm for more details) There might be slightly different ways of doing this depending on your version of Csound, but I think the in opcode is always the one to use. In my experience, csounds realtime performance can be pretty poor. However, I know that there are people out there doing realtime csound work, so it might be that I simply didn't have things set things up correctly. Good luck. - Scott Carver On Sat, 15 Jan 2005, jeff gburek wrote: > > microsounders, can anyone tell me about Csound's > audioin opcode? i'd like to add live input capacity to > the Cecilia program I am running and Cecilia runs atop > Csound..any leads appreciated... jg > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! 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Sat Jan 15 22:29:01 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33851-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 17:29:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 15 Jan 2005 17:29:01 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 631 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 15 Jan 2005 22:28:56 +0000 Received: (qmail 373 invoked from network); Sat, 15 Jan 2005 22:28:55 +0000 Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 17:28:50 -0500 From: billy <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] microsound vs. DJ culture In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx ah...i'll fifth (as charlemagne palestine has pointed out, a good interval or amount of cognac) well-said. (though i'll have it be known that i am "for" sampling in it's most enjoyable and/or thoughtful manifestations....) On Jan 15, 2005, at 5:33 PM, Matthew Mitchell wrote: > > I fourth that...-mm > > > > > > > the re-use of tracks is > > dangerously close to manifesting a cultural problem, viz the > inability > > of the contemporary subject (consumer and artist) to break through > the > > mirror and establish an individual and / or open relation to the > world > > of sound. > > -I think the supportive exclimation in some cultures would be > > formulated in the word: > > bingo! > > > > In all modesty I would like to express there might be some truth > > in your observation... > > > > AvS > > www.mattmitchell.us > > Download and listen to free music, sign the guestbook, read the blog! --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Jan 15 22:18:49 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33848-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.109]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 17:18:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 15 Jan 2005 17:18:48 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 95985 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 15 Jan 2005 22:18:45 +0000 Received: (qmail 95975 invoked from network); Sat, 15 Jan 2005 22:18:44 +0000 Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 23:18:41 +0100 From: Arie van Schutterhoef <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] microsound vs. DJ culture In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <l03130303be0f46445402@[213.84.105.55]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > the re-use of tracks is >dangerously close to manifesting a cultural problem, viz the inability >of the contemporary subject (consumer and artist) to break through the >mirror and establish an individual and / or open relation to the world >of sound. -I think the supportive exclimation in some cultures would be formulated in the word: bingo! In all modesty I would like to express there might be some truth in your observation... 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Sat Jan 15 21:57:52 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33847-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.82]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 16:57:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 15 Jan 2005 16:57:52 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 90239 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 15 Jan 2005 21:57:50 +0000 Received: (qmail 90228 invoked from network); Sat, 15 Jan 2005 21:57:50 +0000 Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 00:00:06 +0200 From: Christos Carras <xxx@xxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Sounds from Saturn's rings In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (Windows/20040913) X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx graham miller wrote: >the titan shots are far out right now... this is so exciting. > >alien oceans of methane... > >is huygens recording any actual sound on titan? > > from reuters: "Along with scientific instruments that measure the components of Titan's atmosphere, Huygens carried a sound recorder and lamp to look for signs of surface liquid." cc >"Robair, Gino" wrote: > > > >>Folks, >>I don't remember seeing this on the list (apologies if it's already been posted, but it might be worth another listen): >> >>http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/cassini/multimedia/pia06410.html >> >><<This movie shows the Cassini spacecraft as it flew in and out of Saturn's ring plane, with accompanying sounds recorded by Cassini's radio and plasma wave science instrument. On June 30, 2004, the spacecraft crossed the ring plane, where its high-gain antenna was bombarded with dust particles that produced this cacophony of sound reminiscent of a hailstorm. Exciting the rings produces similar sights and sounds, which are seen at the end of the movie. >>The graph at the bottom of the movie corresponds to the sound waves, highlighting changes in intensity. >> >> >>http://www.nasa.gov/mov/61980main_PIA06410-Sounds-movie.mov >> >>--------------------------------------------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >>For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >>website: http://www.microsound.org >> >> > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >website: http://www.microsound.org > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Jan 15 21:46:02 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33846-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 16:46:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 15 Jan 2005 16:46:02 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 84544 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 15 Jan 2005 21:45:59 +0000 Received: (qmail 84533 invoked from network); Sat, 15 Jan 2005 21:45:59 +0000 Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 23:48:15 +0200 From: Christos Carras <xxx@xxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] microsound vs. DJ culture In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (Windows/20040913) X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx evening all! a) Adorno the racist: there are certainly many examples of musics that Adorno did not listen to enough - jazz (post big band especially) and many forms of electronic music of the 50's and 60's especially. however his critique of jazz is related to colour only insofar as he felt that black musicians were perpetuating their own oppression by playing to white audiences in forms that reinforced their servitude. personally i think that for certain styles there is more than a grain of truth in that, though there are many many examples of jazz and later improvised music breaking absolutely from anything that resembles this model, that Adorno never took the time to deal with. generally he had a rough time with anything that stayed too close to traditional forms and i don't think he was much of a dancer either. to indulge in a hypothesis : Adorno probably wouldn't have been a klezmer fan either. b) dj culture: what does the practice of 'recombining' existing musics tell us about our culture, especially when we elevate it to the level that dj-ing purports to achieve. using other musics in compositions is certainly nothing new. a european approach can be found in Mahler and later Berio of course (to mention just them) and an american approach is Ives. but the way that composers use "found sounds" including "found music" has a tension, either through montage that explicitly reveals the facticity of the process or through the shock value (for example Stockhausen's Telemusic or Hymnen) because of the way it corodes established sound-icons. from the [very] little i know about "mainstream" dj practice, it seems to me that the re-use of tracks is dangerously close to manifesting a cultural problem, viz the inability of the contemporary subject (consumer and artist) to break through the mirror and establish an individual and / or open relation to the world of sound. christos Peter Price wrote: > What is the relationship between "microsound" and "DJ culture?" Is the > first a subset of the second...a stylistic genre? Are they completely > separate, culturally autonomous realms? Or somewhere in between? > > If DJ culture is about popular music, is microsound about unpopular > music? > > What role does race legitimately play in musical discourse. Is DJ > culture really related more to "people of color" than what? non-DJ > culture? Is microsound a music of people of non-color? > > Does the terminology "DJ Culture" itself prevent critique by > presenting itself as more than just music. In what way is this really > the case? > > I am trying to answer these questions for myself with little > definitive luck so far. Can anyone help me out? > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Jan 15 21:29:40 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33845-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.82]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 16:29:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 15 Jan 2005 16:29:40 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 79794 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 15 Jan 2005 21:29:38 +0000 Received: (qmail 79784 invoked from network); Sat, 15 Jan 2005 21:29:38 +0000 Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 16:29:31 -0500 From: Cory <xxx.xxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] microsound vs. DJ culture In-reply-to: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_zMgdciVwGgMz/7C43++Qvg)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=VxptJu/BJNjrCax5KIUF6J967PApz7ru/83Kw0hONlXQNrTPVKYLxkmUvWbQbko9j5rHaTvVbr2n33RiXY7mP4PWLwxJUrQVuFP2ki5qTf1KEYVwumGdXKe1VuJwqCA+un2BH/y2ejZP9fvOGx3dJ3mPvIXt3iYixNKgJWMYi7E= X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_zMgdciVwGgMz/7C43++Qvg) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I second that......... On Jan 15, 2005, at 3:00 PM, Filipe Galante wrote: > Microsound is already part of the dj culture as well. > Althoug it starts a more intelectualized music, dj culture quickly > reapropriated it and uses it. > The same happens backwards microsound also appropriates technics and > ideas from dj culture. > So I see no need for a definition or separation between the two of > them. > Dj culture is infected by stckahausen, Varese, and this ideas also > move themselves in microsound. > In this global media network this separation should not exist - it > bring us bat to the debate of high art vs popular culture that should > no longuer exist a long time ago. ------------------------------------- audio @ http://www.myspace.com/myo --Boundary_(ID_zMgdciVwGgMz/7C43++Qvg)-- From ???@??? Sat Jan 15 21:12:53 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33844-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.81]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 16:12:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 15 Jan 2005 16:12:53 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 75807 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 15 Jan 2005 21:12:51 +0000 Received: (qmail 75796 invoked from network); Sat, 15 Jan 2005 21:12:50 +0000 Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 23:15:06 +0200 From: Christos Carras <xxx@xxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] essay on TWiki site In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (Windows/20040913) X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx graham miller wrote: >reeks of adorno idiocy... > > oy! lay off Teddy! > > >>http://microsound.nexthop.net/bin/view.cgi/Main/IbanezEssay >>I also created a link to it from the main page so you can find it there >>as well: >>http://microsound.nexthop.net/bin/view.cgi/Main/WebHome >>enjoy! >>KIM >> >>--------------------------------------------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >>For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >>website: http://www.microsound.org >> >> > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >website: http://www.microsound.org > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Jan 15 20:22:04 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33843-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 15:22:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 15 Jan 2005 15:22:03 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 64175 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 15 Jan 2005 20:22:01 +0000 Received: (qmail 64159 invoked from network); Sat, 15 Jan 2005 20:22:01 +0000 Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 21:21:57 +0100 From: Arie van Schutterhoef <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] microsound vs. DJ culture In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <l03130302be0f2b570012@[213.84.105.55]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <BE0ED1BD.1A295%xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> <BE0ED1BD.1A295%xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >next? -toilet-paper, shoe-laces, door-knobs, unfoldable umbrella's and a parachute... AvS . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ...................................................................... ` |Schreck Ensemble . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . + ` |# -laboratory for live electro-acoustic music- # | | http://www.schreck.nl/ | | http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/ | ` *===========================================================++ ` |Compositions http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/compo.html | ` |Samples http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/samp.html | ` |Patches http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/pat.html | ` |Videos http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/video.html | ` |Scores http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/scores.html | *===========================================================++ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ...................................................................... --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Jan 15 20:03:46 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33842-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.110]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 15:03:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 15 Jan 2005 15:03:46 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 58310 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 15 Jan 2005 20:03:44 +0000 Received: (qmail 58300 invoked from network); Sat, 15 Jan 2005 20:03:44 +0000 Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 15:03:38 -0500 From: billy <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] microsound vs. DJ culture In-reply-to: <BE0ED1BD.1A295%xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <BE0ED1BD.1A295%xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx it is also a fantastic tension to deal with as an artist. a "line" that is best dealt with when ignored entirely, no? refuse to force yourself to either side and you end up as a glorious beginner - doing something NEW! (i'm running a dj/vj course this spring and this divide is "the moment" of the course) i think "claiming" either side definitely causes troubles for "legitimacy" or (gasp) "authenticity" but the artist should be cognizant of where he/she may fall when someone drops that line on them. personally, i listen to the music first. sometimes a "really high-operating artsy" release can contain in it the more "simple" pleasures of a more "popular" work....a very "popular" artist (oh, let's say DJ Spooky, to keep within the subject) may put out a large and praised body of work whose popularity I cannot understand. next? b. On Jan 15, 2005, at 1:57 PM, tobias c. van Veen wrote: > Sounds like the topic of an intensive paper -- if not book. > > Of note, I'm intrigued by the "vs." -- I've been a dj since the early > '90s, > and a lover of all forms of experimental and other music since I began > digging sound. > > I see no "vs.," I hear no "vs." ... well I guess I do it hear .. but > why? > > I bought Silent records and discovered electro-acoustoc at the same > time as > industrial, acieed house, Detroit techno .. punk, grunge, jazz, > psychedelia.. minimalism, repetition, happenings .. stockhausen, > boulez, > technotronic .. > > What I do hear are a lot of people trying to draw lines in the sound -- > > -- for reasons not of qualification [the marking of differentiation of > application, performance, style, etc] but the aesthetic-ethical > demarcating > of boundaries of legitimacy .. something else entirely .. > > Time to get out into that more brilliant sun, > > tobias > > ps. Of note, > > "The Black, the White, and the Mutek." Stylusmagazine.com, > 2003-02-10. > http://www.stylusmagazine.com/feature.php?ID=37 > >> What is the relationship between "microsound" and "DJ culture?" Is the >> first a subset of the second...a stylistic genre? Are they completely >> separate, culturally autonomous realms? Or somewhere in between? >> >> If DJ culture is about popular music, is microsound about unpopular >> music? >> >> What role does race legitimately play in musical discourse. Is DJ >> culture really related more to "people of color" than what? non-DJ >> culture? Is microsound a music of people of non-color? >> >> Does the terminology "DJ Culture" itself prevent critique by >> presenting >> itself as more than just music. In what way is this really the case? >> >> I am trying to answer these questions for myself with little >> definitive >> luck so far. Can anyone help me out? >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> website: http://www.microsound.org >> > > > > tobias c. van Veen -----------++++ > http://www.quadrantcrossing.org -- > http://www.thisistheonlyart.com -- > McGill Communication + Philosophy > ICQ: 18766209 | AIM: thesaibot +++ > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Jan 15 20:01:22 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33841-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.114]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 15:01:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 15 Jan 2005 15:01:20 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 57043 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 15 Jan 2005 20:01:18 +0000 Received: (qmail 57033 invoked from network); Sat, 15 Jan 2005 20:01:17 +0000 Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 20:00:19 +0000 From: Filipe Galante <xxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: RE: [microsound] microsound vs. DJ culture In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-Originating-IP: [81.178.115.17] X-Sender: xxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Bcc: Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Originating-Email: [xxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Jan 2005 20:01:15.0176 (UTC) FILETIME=[F8121280:01C4FB3C] Microsound is already part of the dj culture as well. Althoug it starts a more intelectualized music, dj culture quickly reapropriated it and uses it. The same happens backwards microsound also apropriates technics and ideas from dj culture. So I see no need for a defenition or saeparation bvetween the two of them. Dj culture is infected by stckahausen, Varese, and this ideas also movbe thjemselves in microsound. In this global media network this separation should not exist - it bring us bat to the debate of high art vs popular culture that should no longuer exist a long time ago. >From: Peter Price <xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> >Reply-To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> >To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> >Subject: [microsound] microsound vs. DJ culture >Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 13:13:51 -0500 > >What is the relationship between "microsound" and "DJ culture?" Is the >first a subset of the second...a stylistic genre? Are they completely >separate, culturally autonomous realms? Or somewhere in between? > >If DJ culture is about popular music, is microsound about unpopular music? > >What role does race legitimately play in musical discourse. Is DJ culture >really related more to "people of color" than what? non-DJ culture? Is >microsound a music of people of non-color? > >Does the terminology "DJ Culture" itself prevent critique by presenting >itself as more than just music. In what way is this really the case? > >I am trying to answer these questions for myself with little definitive >luck so far. Can anyone help me out? > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >website: http://www.microsound.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Jan 15 19:30:53 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33840-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.83]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 14:30:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 15 Jan 2005 14:30:53 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 49940 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 15 Jan 2005 19:30:51 +0000 Received: (qmail 49929 invoked from network); Sat, 15 Jan 2005 19:30:51 +0000 Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 14:38:55 -0500 From: Matthew Mitchell <xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] essay on TWiki site To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: EarthLink MailBox 5.05.11 (Windows) Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_q6QoSTtNomZh/SttECdRnw)" X-Priority: Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-EM-Version: 5, 0, 0, 0 X-EM-Registration: #3003520714B31D032830 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_q6QoSTtNomZh/SttECdRnw) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Is there a persistence of dominant Eurocentric logic kicking around? In those Adorno quotes, there's certainly a persistence of attempts to present as fact something that is essentially a matter of personal taste, which is ultimately what makes music criticism so suspect. Oh, almost forgot: IMHO! Whew, that was close. www.mattmitchell.us Download and listen to free music, sign the guestbook, read the blog! --Boundary_(ID_q6QoSTtNomZh/SttECdRnw)-- From ???@??? Sat Jan 15 19:17:19 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33839-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 14:17:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 15 Jan 2005 14:17:18 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 45586 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 15 Jan 2005 19:17:16 +0000 Received: (qmail 45576 invoked from network); Sat, 15 Jan 2005 19:17:16 +0000 Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 20:17:12 +0100 From: Arie van Schutterhoef <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] essay on TWiki site In-reply-to: <BE0ECF86.1A293%xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <l03130301be0f1b77449a@[213.84.105.55]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >Is there a persistence of dominant Eurocentric logic kicking around? -I thought we got rid of that ages ago... Especially in the current world we should get rid of any dominant -----centric logic. However everyone is inclinded to a certain dominant -----centric logic. So nothing has changed much. Only adding more cynicism perhaps... 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Sat Jan 15 19:13:32 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33838-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.110]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 14:13:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 15 Jan 2005 14:13:32 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 43319 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 15 Jan 2005 19:13:30 +0000 Received: (qmail 43309 invoked from network); Sat, 15 Jan 2005 19:13:29 +0000 Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 11:13:26 -0800 From: Phil Thomson <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Calling all Canadian microsounders In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: Phil Thomson <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=EbjYqiz7bpeDwaZ38pvi0PnmKr8SCN2VUAWI/HqemMQBCG4mjKFmAHTCNy4S2FZM0w6txJsdf7WLUdT5805ZS3y8XG7x6P/e9nlnG7cpNnpBJkvqrQdCZsRSpWdnO+Gd0BgzScPoxQNJa45PPBBd7gwdbxGnf+f4LOFuOaNDz7o= X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Yesterday Kim posted a link to 'the space between' - a sound gallery curated by Katharine Norman, which is at: http://www.sonus.ca/curators/norman/ Thanks Kim for posting this. I am curating another gallery in this series which is oriented towards "post-digital" musics by Canadian artists, as well as related practices in video, text, image, etc. If you are interested in participating, please contact me offlist. The galleries are going up soon as I understand, but I would be glad to add material even after their launch. Mostly I've had a rather tepid response so far, which I'm putting up to people being somewhat jaded about having stuff up on the net, which is much less glamorous than it used to be. But I would very much like to assemble as many Canadian artists working in "post-digital" musics/practices (which for me, includes, but it is not strictly limited to, glitch and microsound) in one place. I know such nationalism has less of a place in our "quasi-post-geographical" globality, but I also think Canadian artists deserve special recognition for their contributions. So please contact me if you're an interested Canadian artist/writer/theorist/bathtub designer, etc. Thanks in advance. Phil -- Phil Thomson xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx { home: http://www.sfu.ca/~pthomson/ { blog: http://www.bloglines.com/blog/PhilThomson { label: http://centibel.org/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Jan 15 18:57:27 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33837-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.112]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 13:57:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 15 Jan 2005 13:57:27 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 39643 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 15 Jan 2005 18:57:23 +0000 Received: (qmail 39633 invoked from network); Sat, 15 Jan 2005 18:57:22 +0000 Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 13:57:17 -0500 From: "tobias c. van Veen" <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] microsound vs. DJ culture In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: Microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Cc: Peter Price <xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BE0ED1BD.1A295%xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.4.030702.0 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Sounds like the topic of an intensive paper -- if not book. Of note, I'm intrigued by the "vs." -- I've been a dj since the early '90s, and a lover of all forms of experimental and other music since I began digging sound. I see no "vs.," I hear no "vs." ... well I guess I do it hear .. but why? I bought Silent records and discovered electro-acoustoc at the same time as industrial, acieed house, Detroit techno .. punk, grunge, jazz, psychedelia.. minimalism, repetition, happenings .. stockhausen, boulez, technotronic .. What I do hear are a lot of people trying to draw lines in the sound -- -- for reasons not of qualification [the marking of differentiation of application, performance, style, etc] but the aesthetic-ethical demarcating of boundaries of legitimacy .. something else entirely .. Time to get out into that more brilliant sun, tobias ps. Of note, "The Black, the White, and the Mutek." Stylusmagazine.com, 2003-02-10. http://www.stylusmagazine.com/feature.php?ID=37 > What is the relationship between "microsound" and "DJ culture?" Is the > first a subset of the second...a stylistic genre? Are they completely > separate, culturally autonomous realms? Or somewhere in between? > > If DJ culture is about popular music, is microsound about unpopular > music? > > What role does race legitimately play in musical discourse. Is DJ > culture really related more to "people of color" than what? non-DJ > culture? Is microsound a music of people of non-color? > > Does the terminology "DJ Culture" itself prevent critique by presenting > itself as more than just music. In what way is this really the case? > > I am trying to answer these questions for myself with little definitive > luck so far. Can anyone help me out? > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > tobias c. van Veen -----------++++ http://www.quadrantcrossing.org -- http://www.thisistheonlyart.com -- McGill Communication + Philosophy ICQ: 18766209 | AIM: thesaibot +++ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Jan 15 18:47:57 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33836-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 13:47:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 15 Jan 2005 13:47:57 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 35531 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 15 Jan 2005 18:47:53 +0000 Received: (qmail 35521 invoked from network); Sat, 15 Jan 2005 18:47:53 +0000 Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 13:47:50 -0500 From: "tobias c. van Veen" <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] essay on TWiki site In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: Microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>, Peter Price <xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BE0ECF86.1A293%xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.4.030702.0 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx ola, > Where does John Cage say "Jazz is the future." I had thought that John > Cage had a rather dim view of Jazz as well, but I think I must have > been misinformed. "Percussion music is a contemporary transition from keyboard-influenced music to the all-sound music of the future. Any sound is acceptable to the composer of percussion music; he explores the academically forbidden ³non-musical² field of sound insofar as is manually possible. Methods of writing percussion music have as their goal the rhythmic structure of a composition. As soon as these methods are crystallized into one or several widely accepted methods, the means will exist for group improvisations of unwritten but culturally important music. This has already taken place in Oriental cultures and in hot jazz." ³The Future of Music: Credo.² Silence: Lectures and Writings by John Cage. Hanover: Weslayan UP, 1973. p. 5. I talk a little about this -- for reasons of dissecting aesthetic categories tied to arts funding in canada -- in: "FUCK ART LET¹S DANCE." Fuse 26.3 (2003). pp. 12-19. Online in PDF at: http://www.quadrantcrossing.org/papers/FuckArtLet'sDance-FUSE[72].pdf > On what are you basing the idea that Adorno "did not dig musics and > styles of performance originating from cultures of colour" "The aim of jazz is the mechanical reproduction of a regressive moment, a castration symbolism. 'Give up your masculinity, let yourself be castrated,' the eunuchlike sound of the jazz band both mocks and proclaims, 'and you will be rewarded, accepted into a fraternity which shares the mystery of impotence with you, a mystery revealed at the moment of the initiation rite." Theodor Adorno (1981). "Perennial Fashion - Jazz", Prisms, p.129, Trans. Samuel Weber and Shierry Weber. Cambridge, Mass: MIT Press. also: "Jazz is the false liquidation of art - instead of utopia becoming reality it disappears from the picture." "Jazz is music which fuses the most rudimentary melodic, harmonic, metric and formal structure with the ostensibly disruptive principle of syncopation, yet without ever really distrubing the crude unity of the basic rhythm, the identically sustained metre, the quarter-note . . . The wild antics of the first jazz bands from the South, New Orleans above all, and those from Chicago, have been toned down with the growth of commercialization and of the audience, and continued scholarly efforts to recover some of this original animation, whether called 'swing' or 'bebop', inexorably succumb to commercial requirements and quickly lose their sting. The syncopation principle, which at first had to call attention to itself by exaggeration, has in the meantime become so self-evident that it no longer needs to accentuate the weak beats as was formally required. Anyone still using such accents today is derided as 'corny', as out-of-date as 1927 evening dress . . . there is the tendency, especially among those devotees who have adopted it as a Weltanschauung, to regard it falsely as a break-through of original, untrammelled nature, as a triumph over the musty museum-culture . . . However little doubt there can be regarding the African elements in jazz, it is no less certain that everything unruly in it was from the very beginning integrated into a strict scheme, that its rebellious gestures are accompanied by the tendency to blind obeisance, much like the sado-masochistic type described by analytic psychology, the person who charges against the father-figure while secretly admiring him, who seeks to emulate him and in turn derives enjoyment from the subordination he overtly detests. This propensity accelerates the standardization, commercialization and rigidification of the medium." "the perennial fashion-jazz." trans. by samuel and shierry weber. in _the adorno reader_. ed. by brian o'connor. oxford uk and malden ma: 2000. 268-9. --> As you can see, Adorno does target the commercialization of jazz, but even then, he berates the "African elements" for their stylisms (mainly aspects of repetition / control). My guess is that Adorno was too tight to dance. He probably wouldn't have got along well with Nietzsche or Rosa Luxembourg. > Do you think this paints him as a racist, and was that your intention? No. Is there, however, an insertion of race as a constituent element, a condition of possibility for the assertion of an aesthetic criterion in critical theory? That's a good question. Is there a continual erasure of race as determining the "critical reception" of styles of music, art, conceptual rearrangement in the "artworld"? This is a question a "critical theory" might ask, but it could only be asked by asking itself in which ways its criticality is defined by its tenuous relation to (the exclusion of) race. For example, in the next email you ask: "What role does race legitimately play in musical discourse." Already we've presupposed a criterion of (aesthetic) legitimacy, of legitimacy in general -- which presupposes a logical if not ethical category, at the least a category of authenticity (truth). Is there a persistence of dominant Eurocentric logic kicking around? Perhaps.. > Also, could you lead me to some info about Nam June Paik's interest in > DJ culture. This also slipped past my radar. He (thanks Kim for picking up my gender slip -- or slip of sex) did a few interesting collage and sculptural works with records and record players. I discovered this in an intensive and wonderful presentation by curator Carrie Gates at the _Phantom Power_ festival in North Bay, Ontario, last winter. Carrie is part of Vinyl Interventions: http://www.vinylinterventions.com/ I'd encourage her to put this together into a history of the use of vinyl! She's got a crazy powerpoint presentation of almost everything I've ever seen of vinyl use in creative ways. best, tobias --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? 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Sat Jan 15 18:13:55 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33834-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.109]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 13:13:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 15 Jan 2005 13:13:55 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 22942 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 15 Jan 2005 18:13:52 +0000 Received: (qmail 22932 invoked from network); Sat, 15 Jan 2005 18:13:52 +0000 Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 13:13:51 -0500 From: Peter Price <xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] microsound vs. DJ culture To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.552) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx What is the relationship between "microsound" and "DJ culture?" Is the first a subset of the second...a stylistic genre? Are they completely separate, culturally autonomous realms? Or somewhere in between? If DJ culture is about popular music, is microsound about unpopular music? What role does race legitimately play in musical discourse. Is DJ culture really related more to "people of color" than what? non-DJ culture? Is microsound a music of people of non-color? Does the terminology "DJ Culture" itself prevent critique by presenting itself as more than just music. In what way is this really the case? I am trying to answer these questions for myself with little definitive luck so far. Can anyone help me out? --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Jan 15 18:11:14 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33833-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 13:11:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 15 Jan 2005 13:11:10 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 21660 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 15 Jan 2005 18:10:47 +0000 Received: (qmail 21650 invoked from network); Sat, 15 Jan 2005 18:10:47 +0000 Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 10:10:48 -0800 From: xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx (peter nyboer) Subject: [microsound] sounds of the descent X-Sender: xxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>, xxxx_xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <v02140b17be0f0d0dda31@[192.168.0.102]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx http://www.esa.int/esaCP/SEM85Q71Y3E_index_0.html |\/|\/|\/|\/|\/|\/|\/|\/|\/|\/| The Clover Club 1 1/2 oz gin 1/4 oz grenadine 3/4 oz lemon juice 1 white of egg shake vigorously with ice and strain into cocktail glass |\/|\/|\/|\/|\/|\/|\/|\/|\/|\/| --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Jan 15 17:48:36 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33832-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 12:48:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 15 Jan 2005 12:48:36 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 15775 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 15 Jan 2005 17:48:32 +0000 Received: (qmail 15765 invoked from network); Sat, 15 Jan 2005 17:48:32 +0000 Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 17:47:46 +0000 From: Benjamin Green <x@xxxxxxx.xxxxx.xx.xx> Subject: [microsound] [as] To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxxxx.xx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040616 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Jan 2005 17:49:01.0904 (UTC) FILETIME=[7F78D500:01C4FB2A] ....as... airs: every SUNDAY 00:00h 104.4FM [london, uk] live streams: http://www.resonancefm.com url: http://66.225.223.75/as/ contribute: ord1nal[at]shell.reverse.net Submit a series of instructions - which I carry out [together with friends, the public, patches, etc.] to create the piece/program. Texts may/will be shifted, transformed, layered, etc as/if necessary. Dialogue will be initiated. Due credit(s) will given. ......... No further updates will be posted by me to any mailing lists. If you wish receive news by email, register here: http://66.225.223.75/as/contact.php ......... 2005-01-16 00:00:00 Jonathan Coleclough [as] is [a single transition] score: Jonathan Coleclough [December 2004] execution: Benjamin Green Make two field recordings, each an hour long. Play both recordings simultaneously, but start with only one audible. Gradually change the relative volumes of the two recordings so that one fades from audible to inaudible while simultaneously the other rises from inaudible to audible. Try to change the volume slowly enough that the transition is imperceptible - so that you don't notice the volume of either recording changing. Try to change the two volumes by hand if possible, using manual controls such as faders. Stop when the transition is complete. If hour-long recordings aren't long enough, think about how to proceed. ......... 2005-01-23 00:00:00 Yoshida Tatsuya as a... ...composer: [GROUP/title] RUINS/Komnigriss RUINS/Djubatchegromm KOREKYOJINN/Betwixt KOREKYOJINN/Freestone TOHKICHI/ RONRUINS/Vokshimra DAISANMYAKU-X/pirenee CICALA MVTA/Herakrion CICALA MVTA/Stara Planina ZUBI ZUVA/theme1 ZUBI ZUVA/Europe ZUBI ZUVA/Dara Cell TAIRIKUOTOKO VS SANMYAKUONNA/White Shadow AKATEN/Zipper,Camera,Wine,Petbottle,Carpentars YOSHIDA TATSUYA/Sempre Moll KOENJIHYAKKEI/Visqaguell KOENJIHYAKKEI/Arramidda Horrva ...improvisor: [NO SONG TITLES] SEKKUTSUJIINN (Yoshida Tatsuya dr/Sato Kenji bass) Daimonji (Hoppy Kamiyama:key/Nasuno Mitsuru:bass/Yoshdia:dr) RUINS RUINS Acid Mothers Temple SWR (Kawabata Makoto/Tsuyama Atsushi/Yoshida) the World Heritage (Katsui Yuji/Kido Natsuki/Nasuno Mitsuru/Yoshida) KNEAD (Haino Keiji/Sasaki Hisashi/Yoshida) Sun Head Ring (Haino Keiji/Nasuno Mitsuru/Yoshida) Haino & Yoshida Tohkichi (Fujii Satoko/Yoshida) RUINZHATPVA (Yamamoto Seiichi/Tsuyama Atsushi/Yoshida) UY (Uchihashi Kazuhisa/Yoshida) ......... 2005-01-30 00:00:00 Mark Trayle one hour as 13 views of santa ana 13 audio snapshots of ex-urban LA taken at the top of the hour, subtly and sometimes not-so-subtly processed. i recorded this mid-december, whlie we were having one of our episodes of hot and dry winds from the northeast, known as the santa ana winds. they weren't particularly hot this time, but they were quite constant throughoutthe evening. the period 'audiographed' was from midnight to noon, inclusive. while making it i imagined that the audience would be lying on the floor with headphones on... ......... 2005-02-06 00:00:00 Achim Wollscheid Gemini score: Achim Wollscheid execution: Benjamin Green ...there is one thing that came to my mind in regard to context... meaning about the place where the radio is - how about asking 10 (avarage... maybe more or less, depends on the length of your broadcast) people around the radio (meaning outside, in the street) for a title they would like to hear in the context of the radioshow Gemini? They opt for a piece they would like to hear and you chose a piece to accompany this specific piece... the choice as to what makes the link (title, sound, chance...) is up to you. Meaning the broadcast would come up as a series of pairs or couples. The questioning would, of course, have to happen some time in advance to give you time to chose. Also it might be helpful to tell the interrogated (?) the whole story... 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Sat Jan 15 17:38:58 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33831-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.113]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 12:38:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 15 Jan 2005 12:38:58 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 9646 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 15 Jan 2005 17:38:55 +0000 Received: (qmail 9635 invoked from network); Sat, 15 Jan 2005 17:38:55 +0000 Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 12:38:53 -0500 From: Peter Price <xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] essay on TWiki site In-reply-to: <BE0E1B1F.1A243%xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.552) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Hi Tobias, I would like to try to respond to your comments, but first I want some more information about some of the things you mentioned: Where does John Cage say "Jazz is the future." I had thought that John Cage had a rather dim view of Jazz as well, but I think I must have been misinformed. On what are you basing the idea that Adorno "did not dig musics and styles of performance originating from cultures of colour" Do you think this paints him as a racist, and was that your intention? Also, could you lead me to some info about Nam June Paik's interest in DJ culture. This also slipped past my radar. thanks, peter On Saturday, January 15, 2005, at 12:58 AM, tobias c. van Veen wrote: > If this is at all considered to be representative of even a critique > of dj > culture, the least I can say is that it is, as Graham hinted at, > authoritarian and, perhaps worse, incredibly boring. In fact, it's even > insulting to Adorno, who had much more interesting and even subtle > things to > say of the culture industries, despite also indulging in this similar > parallel to the article -- not digging various musics and styles of > performance originating from cultures of colour (Jamaica, > African-Americans, > etc -- Adorno's favourite demon in music was jazz. John Cage, on the > other > hand, saw jazz as the future. And for that matter, Nam June Paik, > grandmother of new media, dug vinyl and dj culture too .. just giving > some > counter-balance on this tip .. do I sound like a broken record? Only > because > issues of RACE seem so occluded in this context .. ). > > Kid Koala? Scratch Picklz? Jeff Mills? > Grandmaster Flash's Adventures on the Wheels of Steel? > Dj Rolando? Underground Resistance? Dj T-1000? > Richie Hawtin? Phillip Sherburne? > Frankie Bones? Laurent Garnier? > Dj CRAZE? Q-Bert? [they developed SCRATCH NOTATION .. ] > Mixmaster Mike? > Fishead? > Dan Doormouse? > Algorithm? > > MARTIN TETREAULT? > > PHILLIP JECK? > > ESTHER BOURDAGES? > > NAM JUNE PAIK? > > JANEK SCHAEFER? > > > .. all djs .. > > It's not even worth responding to: this kind of pseudo-aesthetic > garbage > mainly consists of bad stereotypes masquerading authoritarian > aesthetics as > "cultural critique." > > Poor Debord. > > - tV > >> reeks of adorno idiocy... >> >>> >>> http://microsound.nexthop.net/bin/view.cgi/Main/IbanezEssay >>> I also created a link to it from the main page so you can find it >>> there >>> as well: >>> http://microsound.nexthop.net/bin/view.cgi/Main/WebHome >>> enjoy! >>> KIM >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >>> For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >>> website: http://www.microsound.org >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> website: http://www.microsound.org >> > > > > tobias c. van Veen -----------++++ > http://www.quadrantcrossing.org -- > http://www.thisistheonlyart.com -- > McGill Communication + Philosophy > ICQ: 18766209 | AIM: thesaibot +++ > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Jan 15 16:41:41 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33830-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 11:41:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 15 Jan 2005 11:41:41 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 94195 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 15 Jan 2005 16:41:39 +0000 Received: (qmail 94185 invoked from network); Sat, 15 Jan 2005 16:41:39 +0000 Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 08:41:37 -0800 (PST) From: jeff gburek <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] ? for Csounders In-reply-to: <l03130301be0dd25fae4f@[213.84.105.55]> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=4XadK15czyss9Era7AAa4w1/MpChWNCLYHsXQqbBhdLgrh9IhNZFeNpsCWZtrFosTkKlL48D5ZA6SVg0yoXfSVakTMljdm+rbyvLlAmNLVcTg5LsUjfHMORIAkKB6QM5KwJUeM0jxPXeqQDMGjEycNN2OzxDNmbpfbks3HQIEHM= ; X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx microsounders, can anyone tell me about Csound's audioin opcode? i'd like to add live input capacity to the Cecilia program I am running and Cecilia runs atop Csound..any leads appreciated... jg __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! 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Sat Jan 15 16:40:17 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33829-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 11:40:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 15 Jan 2005 11:40:17 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 93026 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 15 Jan 2005 16:40:15 +0000 Received: (qmail 93016 invoked from network); Sat, 15 Jan 2005 16:40:14 +0000 Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 10:40:12 -0600 From: Chris Bryan <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] live streaming event tonight 8pm CST To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: Chris Bryan <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=C9YbjAyygNPmwKT/+sDU6O72ADzvJOq8bBhfHmv/H+RYm4xLOcA5mjwSxfkMqpvDgw1vU9PwesozeJVDf6MuEOeTvKaPzUZQnOBJ85ep+PQMw3MQ1FU8fXiAZtDmANWnVOk5YwmC+flpkER/aLfK0CyeCKHFwB20xX0CAPVA9tA= X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx live streaming event tonight Just letting everyone know that there is a live streaming 'deep listening' event tonight. 8:00 pm to 9:30 pm CST - performances by 3x3is9, Sandee Moore, Mink/Dim Coast collaboration. info: http://www.cheapmeat.net/ArtsBirthday.html stream: http://cheapmeat.net/ArtsBdayLive.html -- |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| (1.8)sec.records www.1pt8.tk |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Jan 15 16:08:24 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33828-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 11:08:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 15 Jan 2005 11:08:24 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 79382 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 15 Jan 2005 16:08:20 +0000 Received: (qmail 79371 invoked from network); Sat, 15 Jan 2005 16:08:20 +0000 Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 17:08:21 +0100 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F6rn_Eriksson?= <xxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] 56k TWiki To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <00e701c4fb1c$6f7bb1d0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2527 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Please don't take these away! I think CollaborativeAudio topic serves as a platform for different ongoing (?) projects and also makes the first page not to be overloaded with too many diff. projects. I think RingTones project is a nice one - actually I have your 3n as signal - it is scaring myself and my neighbourhood every day. My "ringtone1.mp3" is a real file made for this project. The other there is just testfiles... I was there at the TWiki and made some notes and prolonged the project until 1 febr. (so come on, you who wants to download specially designed ringtones for your cell phones) A question related...the deletion of files in an attachment rows - is it only possible for special authorized users on TWiki? DerridaMemorial is another project that should be nice if it could take off imo. Yours, Björn ----- Original Message ----- From: "john saylor" <xx@xxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> To: <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2005 3:42 AM Subject: [microsound] 56k TWiki > hi > > i have put up a minimal 56k project page: > http://microsound.nexthop.net/bin/view.cgi/Main/FiftySixK > > it's up to you to make a submission [or add rules ...]. > > also, i think i'm going to remove the ring tones and colloborative audio > pages since they are unused. the only things posted there are test > files. if you think this is a bad idea, please speak up within a week or > those pages will be 'recycled'. > > -- > \js [!:(? http://or8.net/~johns ' <([/*[' ( > iraq body count: 15,339 [min] 17,556 [max] > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Jan 15 06:21:34 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33827-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.112]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 01:21:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 15 Jan 2005 01:21:34 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 67927 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 15 Jan 2005 06:21:35 +0000 Received: (qmail 67916 invoked from network); Sat, 15 Jan 2005 06:21:35 +0000 Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 01:21:30 -0500 (EST) From: monotonaut <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] Broken Sleep -German tour dates To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx wednesday january 26 ravensburg @spa w/ phantastic pubbah and assymetric bandit friday january 28 hamburg @hoer bar wednesday february 2 ulm @hansen (tbc) friday february 4 rostock on the stubnitz (illbient floor w/ trouble clef, tzii, gamaboy, v.dma, no name project; drill, noise, breakcore, noisecore floor: deadman, fuel in sekt, alesh trash, surbont, tambour major) saturday february 5 dresden @az conni mp3 links- http://freewebs.com/brokensleep Broken Sleep is the dark, abstract dronescape project of Colin Hendry. He was a founding member of the now-defunct Mediacore collective, which organized "low-brow" experimental and hardcore electronic music events in Vancouver, Canada. His "glitchcomassault" can include lo-fi analogue field recordings and metallic folk instruments such as those collected on his recent trip to india, neapl, and tibet. He has opened for artists such as Pan Sonic, Synapscape, Crank Sturgeon, Dev79, and Dave Phillips. This will be his third small European tour an second as "Broken Sleep". The name has sonic and symbolic meaning, and is a common experience for this graveyard shift worker. ===== http://freewebs.com/brokensleep __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! 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Sat Jan 15 05:58:16 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33826-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.110]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 00:58:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 15 Jan 2005 00:58:16 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 62432 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 15 Jan 2005 05:58:14 +0000 Received: (qmail 62422 invoked from network); Sat, 15 Jan 2005 05:58:14 +0000 Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 00:58:07 -0500 From: "tobias c. van Veen" <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] essay on TWiki site In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> To: Microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>, graham miller <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BE0E1B1F.1A243%xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.4.030702.0 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx If this is at all considered to be representative of even a critique of dj culture, the least I can say is that it is, as Graham hinted at, authoritarian and, perhaps worse, incredibly boring. In fact, it's even insulting to Adorno, who had much more interesting and even subtle things to say of the culture industries, despite also indulging in this similar parallel to the article -- not digging various musics and styles of performance originating from cultures of colour (Jamaica, African-Americans, etc -- Adorno's favourite demon in music was jazz. John Cage, on the other hand, saw jazz as the future. And for that matter, Nam June Paik, grandmother of new media, dug vinyl and dj culture too .. just giving some counter-balance on this tip .. do I sound like a broken record? Only because issues of RACE seem so occluded in this context .. ). Kid Koala? Scratch Picklz? Jeff Mills? Grandmaster Flash's Adventures on the Wheels of Steel? Dj Rolando? Underground Resistance? Dj T-1000? Richie Hawtin? Phillip Sherburne? Frankie Bones? Laurent Garnier? Dj CRAZE? Q-Bert? [they developed SCRATCH NOTATION .. ] Mixmaster Mike? Fishead? Dan Doormouse? Algorithm? MARTIN TETREAULT? PHILLIP JECK? ESTHER BOURDAGES? NAM JUNE PAIK? JANEK SCHAEFER? ... all djs .. It's not even worth responding to: this kind of pseudo-aesthetic garbage mainly consists of bad stereotypes masquerading authoritarian aesthetics as "cultural critique." Poor Debord. - tV > reeks of adorno idiocy... > >> >> http://microsound.nexthop.net/bin/view.cgi/Main/IbanezEssay >> I also created a link to it from the main page so you can find it there >> as well: >> http://microsound.nexthop.net/bin/view.cgi/Main/WebHome >> enjoy! >> KIM >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> website: http://www.microsound.org > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > tobias c. van Veen -----------++++ http://www.quadrantcrossing.org -- http://www.thisistheonlyart.com -- McGill Communication + Philosophy ICQ: 18766209 | AIM: thesaibot +++ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Jan 15 04:46:24 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33825-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 23:46:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 14 Jan 2005 23:46:24 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 43265 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 15 Jan 2005 04:45:59 +0000 Received: (qmail 43255 invoked from network); Sat, 15 Jan 2005 04:45:58 +0000 Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 23:46:25 -0500 From: mandra <xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> (chris) Subject: Re: [microsound] [ot] the 56k challenge In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=UTF-8 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> <00e001c4fa93$a4fb36c0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx You also might find this compression chart interesting: http://www.sericyb.com.au/sc/audio.html mandra On Jan 14, 2005, at 9:40 PM, Murat GüneÅŸ wrote: > those interested in the aesthetics of low quality encoding might find > this interesting: a net label called "20kbps rec." puts out releases > in 20kbps mp3 format only: > > http://20kbps.sofapause.ch/ > > i'm sure there are others out there. > > on Fri, 14 Jan 2005 16:44:46 -0800, b.phenix <xx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote: > >> >> itunes allows down to 16kbps stereo files but in AAC and mp3. same >> goes for DSP-Quattro and i think Logic (don't have my key with me to >> open up and look). >> >> i like the idea of a two part project. step on have everyone create >> the 56k files, part two have people remix the collection of materials >> (into normal file size or not). >> >> On Jan 14, 2005, at 3:49 PM, Björn Eriksson wrote: >> >> I like this project idea! Is there anyone out there who has some >> pointers to good (or bad) encoders that produces... let's say 8kbps >> mono mp3 or even more lo-fi? My ordinary tools won't let me make as >> bad files as this!... >> >> or am I thinking all wrong?... (if we speak tracker files [*.mod] I >> guess it is more easy to make small files, but the original post >> proposed mp3 or wav) >> >> Maybe it is possible to manipulate the the mp3 files like change data >> in the headers etcetera to make the files small, but that is all new >> to me and maybe unrealistic to solve easy. >> >> Anyway, here is a site with facts about the header info on mp3's >> http://www.mp3-tech.org/programmer/frame_header.html >> >> /Björn >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> website: http://www.microsound.org >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> website: http://www.microsound.org >> > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > mandra c:410.258.5281 h:301 772 7376 realtime experimentalist / guitarist for Telesma creator of "the manDrum" ....jamming the mainstream in the zips http://defDumbAndBass.com http://telesma23.com http://skywheel.com Come to my very happening *happening* the defDumbAndBass fREAKoUT! happening the 3rd Sunday of EVERY month @ the Royal - 1542 Light Street, Baltimore, MD watch, listen, dance, relax and explore the "known unknowns" AND check out "e+@13" - a new show the first Thursday of every month at the 13th Floor in Baltimore highlighting live aspects of electronic music. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Jan 15 04:09:35 2005 X-POP3-Rcpt: xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx Received: from mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.69]) by host.redundant-webservers.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j0F49ZUc020696 for <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 23:09:35 -0500 Received: from [67.84.254.108] (ool-4354fe6c.dyn.optonline.net [67.84.254.108]) by mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 23:09:35 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 23:09:34 -0500 From: "xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx" <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: list archives? In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> To: john saylor <xx@xxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> Cc: xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx, xxxxxxxxxx-xxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx Message-id: <r02010400-1035-43E3195C66AB11D996A4000D932C0D78@[67.84.254.108]> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mailsmith 2.1.4 (Blindsider) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 Hi John- I didn't have much time during the past school semester to update the archives and have still been coming down from all the work. I hope to get it up to date before Feb 1st, but if there's someone eager to take over the library, I wouldn't want to stand in their way. Let me know what your thoughts are... Best, Tad john saylor wrote on 1/14/05: >i notice the last stuff you have in the archive appears to be from >july 2004. do you have any plans to include more recent posts in it? > >please don't misunderstand, the archive as it stands is a most useful >resource. i am simply wondering if your current circumstances permit >you to maintain it. <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> From ???@??? Sat Jan 15 02:49:35 2005 X-POP3-Rcpt: xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx Received: from wave.dnsalias.org (wave.ne.client2.attbi.com [24.60.166.189]) by host.redundant-webservers.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j0F2nZUc018225 for <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 21:49:35 -0500 Received: by wave.dnsalias.org (Postfix, from userid 1002) id 9A31910705; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 22:02:21 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 22:02:21 -0500 From: john saylor <xx@xxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> To: xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx Cc: xxxxxxxxxx-xxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx Subject: list archives? Message-ID: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i hi i notice the last stuff you have in the archive appears to be from july 2004. do you have any plans to include more recent posts in it? please don't misunderstand, the archive as it stands is a most useful resource. i am simply wondering if your current circumstances permit you to maintain it. -- \js { \$%}!`["& #http://or8.net/~johns iraq body count: 15,339 [min] 17,556 [max] From ???@??? Sat Jan 15 02:56:56 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33824-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 21:56:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 14 Jan 2005 21:56:56 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 6285 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 15 Jan 2005 02:56:55 +0000 Received: (qmail 6275 invoked from network); Sat, 15 Jan 2005 02:56:55 +0000 Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 18:56:47 -0800 From: Brook Hinton <xxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Mac mini - the Cynthia! In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.618) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-DSLExtreme-MailGate-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-DSLExtreme-MailGate: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-From: xxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx OK not exactly microsound - but the fact that this already exists is just great: http://www.cyndustries.com/modules_minimac.cfm Serge-esque modular synth and DAW combined, courtesy of the macmini. -- Brook Hinton --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Jan 15 02:29:56 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33822-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.110]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 21:29:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 14 Jan 2005 21:29:56 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 96067 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 15 Jan 2005 02:29:55 +0000 Received: (qmail 96057 invoked from network); Sat, 15 Jan 2005 02:29:55 +0000 Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 21:42:37 -0500 From: john saylor <xx@xxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] 56k TWiki To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx hi i have put up a minimal 56k project page: http://microsound.nexthop.net/bin/view.cgi/Main/FiftySixK it's up to you to make a submission [or add rules ...]. also, i think i'm going to remove the ring tones and colloborative audio pages since they are unused. the only things posted there are test files. if you think this is a bad idea, please speak up within a week or those pages will be 'recycled'. -- \js [!:(? http://or8.net/~johns ' <([/*[' ( iraq body count: 15,339 [min] 17,556 [max] --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Jan 15 02:40:40 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33823-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.109]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 21:40:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 14 Jan 2005 21:40:40 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 443 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 15 Jan 2005 02:40:40 +0000 Received: (qmail 433 invoked from network); Sat, 15 Jan 2005 02:40:40 +0000 Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 04:40:30 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-9?B?TXVyYXQgR/xuZf4=?= <xxxxxx@xxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] [ot] the 56k challenge In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=iso-8859-9 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Opera M2/7.54u1 (Win32, build 3918) X-Authenticated: #12624905 X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> <00e001c4fa93$a4fb36c0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx those interested in the aesthetics of low quality encoding might find this interesting: a net label called "20kbps rec." puts out releases in 20kbps mp3 format only: http://20kbps.sofapause.ch/ i'm sure there are others out there. on Fri, 14 Jan 2005 16:44:46 -0800, b.phenix <xx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote: > > itunes allows down to 16kbps stereo files but in AAC and mp3. same goes > for DSP-Quattro and i think Logic (don't have my key with me to open up > and look). > > i like the idea of a two part project. step on have everyone create the > 56k files, part two have people remix the collection of materials (into > normal file size or not). > > On Jan 14, 2005, at 3:49 PM, Björn Eriksson wrote: > > I like this project idea! Is there anyone out there who has some > pointers to good (or bad) encoders that produces... let's say 8kbps mono > mp3 or even more lo-fi? My ordinary tools won't let me make as bad files > as this!... > > or am I thinking all wrong?... (if we speak tracker files [*.mod] I > guess it is more easy to make small files, but the original post > proposed mp3 or wav) > > Maybe it is possible to manipulate the the mp3 files like change data in > the headers etcetera to make the files small, but that is all new to me > and maybe unrealistic to solve easy. > > Anyway, here is a site with facts about the header info on mp3's > http://www.mp3-tech.org/programmer/frame_header.html > > /Björn > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Jan 15 01:06:38 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33821-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.111]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 20:06:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 14 Jan 2005 20:06:38 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 71269 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 15 Jan 2005 01:06:36 +0000 Received: (qmail 71259 invoked from network); Sat, 15 Jan 2005 01:06:36 +0000 Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 20:06:23 -0500 From: Peter Price <xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] essay on TWiki site In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.552) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx would you care to explain what you mean? please... On Friday, January 14, 2005, at 01:13 PM, graham miller wrote: > reeks of adorno idiocy... > >> >> http://microsound.nexthop.net/bin/view.cgi/Main/IbanezEssay >> I also created a link to it from the main page so you can find it >> there >> as well: >> http://microsound.nexthop.net/bin/view.cgi/Main/WebHome >> enjoy! >> KIM >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> website: http://www.microsound.org > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Jan 15 00:57:34 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33820-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 19:57:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 14 Jan 2005 19:57:34 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 66694 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 15 Jan 2005 00:57:24 +0000 Received: (qmail 66683 invoked from network); Sat, 15 Jan 2005 00:57:24 +0000 Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 17:57:20 -0700 From: Dan Heidebrecht <xxx.xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] [ot] the 56k challenge In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: Dan Heidebrecht <xxx.xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=o+rScPDk+D0tMz3udww6lBPYlnR2MNRCzI9f50u74dEJ916yCbubfTV8CvynoaDgi3/JDE2V+jM9RfO1WQwgIzm8uXq1DTV7ME4olBJ1O7k3oChHGuWmXa1W1XqzWhq3SMCiRx4+XNRxDNBhgwfpajgMJH8VexWTIFi8BVeZSOI= X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> <00e001c4fa93$a4fb36c0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx I just encoded a 1 minute, 4 second, 8 bit, 8Khz WAV file to mp3 using lame (8 Khz setting). It's 60Kbytes. lame is at: http://lame.sourceforge.net there's a mac version of lame here: http://www.pyehouse.com/lynn/lamework.php dan. On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 16:44:46 -0800, b. phenix <xx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote: > > itunes allows down to 16kbps stereo files but in AAC and mp3. same > goes for DSP-Quattro and i think Logic (don't have my key with me to > open up and look). > > i like the idea of a two part project. step on have everyone create > the 56k files, part two have people remix the collection of materials > (into normal file size or not). > > On Jan 14, 2005, at 3:49 PM, Björn Eriksson wrote: > > I like this project idea! Is there anyone out there who has some > pointers to good (or bad) encoders that produces... let's say 8kbps > mono mp3 or even more lo-fi? My ordinary tools won't let me make as bad > files as this!... > > or am I thinking all wrong?... (if we speak tracker files [*.mod] I > guess it is more easy to make small files, but the original post > proposed mp3 or wav) > > Maybe it is possible to manipulate the the mp3 files like change data > in the headers etcetera to make the files small, but that is all new to > me and maybe unrealistic to solve easy. > > Anyway, here is a site with facts about the header info on mp3's > http://www.mp3-tech.org/programmer/frame_header.html > > /Björn > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Jan 15 00:44:01 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33818-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 19:44:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 14 Jan 2005 19:44:01 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 61364 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 15 Jan 2005 00:44:00 +0000 Received: (qmail 61354 invoked from network); Sat, 15 Jan 2005 00:44:00 +0000 Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 16:44:46 -0800 From: "b.phenix" <xx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] [ot] the 56k challenge In-reply-to: <00e001c4fa93$a4fb36c0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.618) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> <00e001c4fa93$a4fb36c0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx itunes allows down to 16kbps stereo files but in AAC and mp3. same goes for DSP-Quattro and i think Logic (don't have my key with me to open up and look). i like the idea of a two part project. step on have everyone create the 56k files, part two have people remix the collection of materials (into normal file size or not). On Jan 14, 2005, at 3:49 PM, Björn Eriksson wrote: I like this project idea! Is there anyone out there who has some pointers to good (or bad) encoders that produces... let's say 8kbps mono mp3 or even more lo-fi? My ordinary tools won't let me make as bad files as this!... or am I thinking all wrong?... (if we speak tracker files [*.mod] I guess it is more easy to make small files, but the original post proposed mp3 or wav) Maybe it is possible to manipulate the the mp3 files like change data in the headers etcetera to make the files small, but that is all new to me and maybe unrealistic to solve easy. Anyway, here is a site with facts about the header info on mp3's http://www.mp3-tech.org/programmer/frame_header.html /Björn --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Jan 15 00:54:44 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33819-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 19:54:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 14 Jan 2005 19:54:44 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 65350 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 15 Jan 2005 00:54:40 +0000 Received: (qmail 65339 invoked from network); Sat, 15 Jan 2005 00:54:40 +0000 Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 16:31:43 -0800 From: Kim Cascone <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] 'the space between' - a sound gallery curated by Katharine Norman To: microsound_list <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Loop-Detect: 1 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx http://www.sonus.ca/curators/norman/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Jan 15 00:07:17 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33817-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 19:07:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 14 Jan 2005 19:07:16 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 50798 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 15 Jan 2005 00:07:14 +0000 Received: (qmail 50788 invoked from network); Sat, 15 Jan 2005 00:07:14 +0000 Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 19:11:07 -0500 From: graham miller <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Sounds from Saturn's rings To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73C-SYMPA (Macintosh; U; PPC) Content-type: text/plain; x-mac-creator=4D4F5353; x-mac-type=54455854; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en,fr-CA Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx the titan shots are far out right now... this is so exciting. alien oceans of methane... is huygens recording any actual sound on titan? "Robair, Gino" wrote: > Folks, > I don't remember seeing this on the list (apologies if it's already been posted, but it might be worth another listen): > > http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/cassini/multimedia/pia06410.html > > <<This movie shows the Cassini spacecraft as it flew in and out of Saturn's ring plane, with accompanying sounds recorded by Cassini's radio and plasma wave science instrument. On June 30, 2004, the spacecraft crossed the ring plane, where its high-gain antenna was bombarded with dust particles that produced this cacophony of sound reminiscent of a hailstorm. Exciting the rings produces similar sights and sounds, which are seen at the end of the movie. > The graph at the bottom of the movie corresponds to the sound waves, highlighting changes in intensity. >> > > http://www.nasa.gov/mov/61980main_PIA06410-Sounds-movie.mov > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Jan 14 23:49:13 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33816-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 18:49:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 14 Jan 2005 18:49:13 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 43934 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 14 Jan 2005 23:49:12 +0000 Received: (qmail 43924 invoked from network); Fri, 14 Jan 2005 23:49:12 +0000 Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 00:49:08 +0100 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F6rn_Eriksson?= <xxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] [ot] the 56k challenge To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <00e001c4fa93$a4fb36c0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2527 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx I like this project idea! Is there anyone out there who has some pointers to good (or bad) encoders that produces... let's say 8kbps mono mp3 or even more lo-fi? My ordinary tools won't let me make as bad files as this!... or am I thinking all wrong?... (if we speak tracker files [*.mod] I guess it is more easy to make small files, but the original post proposed mp3 or wav) Maybe it is possible to manipulate the the mp3 files like change data in the headers etcetera to make the files small, but that is all new to me and maybe unrealistic to solve easy. Anyway, here is a site with facts about the header info on mp3's http://www.mp3-tech.org/programmer/frame_header.html /Björn --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Jan 14 23:27:58 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33815-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.81]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 18:27:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 14 Jan 2005 18:27:58 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 36156 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 14 Jan 2005 23:27:56 +0000 Received: (qmail 36146 invoked from network); Fri, 14 Jan 2005 23:27:56 +0000 Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 17:27:37 -0600 From: "Robair, Gino" <xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Sounds from Saturn's rings To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6603.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Thread-topic: microsound Digest 1 Jan 2005 19:13:40 -0000 Issue 1322 Thread-index: AcTwNj+OL01JJqx+QH6Izqgu1VSolgKWf4bK Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Jan 2005 23:27:37.0585 (UTC) FILETIME=[A225FE10:01C4FA90] Folks, I don't remember seeing this on the list (apologies if it's already been posted, but it might be worth another listen): http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/cassini/multimedia/pia06410.html <<This movie shows the Cassini spacecraft as it flew in and out of Saturn's ring plane, with accompanying sounds recorded by Cassini's radio and plasma wave science instrument. On June 30, 2004, the spacecraft crossed the ring plane, where its high-gain antenna was bombarded with dust particles that produced this cacophony of sound reminiscent of a hailstorm. Exciting the rings produces similar sights and sounds, which are seen at the end of the movie. The graph at the bottom of the movie corresponds to the sound waves, highlighting changes in intensity. >> http://www.nasa.gov/mov/61980main_PIA06410-Sounds-movie.mov --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Jan 14 21:20:30 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33814-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 16:20:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 14 Jan 2005 16:20:30 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 84632 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 14 Jan 2005 21:20:29 +0000 Received: (qmail 84618 invoked from network); Fri, 14 Jan 2005 21:20:28 +0000 Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 13:20:25 -0800 (PST) From: jeff gburek <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] box 'O CD's/outboard In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=OR8s4R0FDO8fADnld9Gmywq58TrxzXDsA8KAZ2aJYtfKFB066ZOo86bHFUAv542GQdylsfl2JIq2vXiDR+CQfK1VrB+hNdX/hjRy2uT1JWZXTKBwmwATxdjsQOADB21LN59+I1eZI4tp2GSMqYGsSudI1l+W9zUsO/B/8A+ZHaI= ; X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx sorry meant that last off-list --- jeff gburek <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> wrote: > kim, > this is off your post tpic but your shortcut may > help > me. i want to input live audio to cecilia. what do i > need? is it possible? > thanks for any help, jeff gburek > --- Kim Cascone <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote: > > > sorry but the 1 box I had to send off has already > > been claimed...I'm > > sure there will be a box #2 but I'm still trying > to > > clear out some > > stuff from my studio... > > anyone need any outboard gear? these items are > *NOT > > FREE* but I have a > > dbx stereo enhancer, a peavey graphic stereo EQ > and > > a Niche fader box > > styled MIDI controller...email me off list if > you're > > interested...they > > are all going for cheap cheap cheap... > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > For additional commands, e-mail: > > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > website: http://www.microsound.org > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! 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See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=PnJFk+1UFquuTAGW7awmfnxz8mEMwxnn2IwzeaCWjSOg9qXhfLZYhgywtj8+UXWmghddOEcM/TziO10d3lZBrkr+ou7VU6MicyqS4/PoSDvhcLXvPoehAaNv11620OasQSeHsEOGi9QFd6P+UwfOYwBFnWPVz7lwpZ4NdG2MBrA= ; X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx kim, this is off your post tpic but your shortcut may help me. i want to input live audio to cecilia. what do i need? is it possible? thanks for any help, jeff gburek --- Kim Cascone <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote: > sorry but the 1 box I had to send off has already > been claimed...I'm > sure there will be a box #2 but I'm still trying to > clear out some > stuff from my studio... > anyone need any outboard gear? these items are *NOT > FREE* but I have a > dbx stereo enhancer, a peavey graphic stereo EQ and > a Niche fader box > styled MIDI controller...email me off list if you're > interested...they > are all going for cheap cheap cheap... > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 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Fri Jan 14 20:58:14 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33812-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 15:58:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 14 Jan 2005 15:58:14 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 74506 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 14 Jan 2005 20:58:01 +0000 Received: (qmail 74486 invoked from network); Fri, 14 Jan 2005 20:58:00 +0000 Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 21:01:08 +0000 From: "eric n." <xxxx@xxxxxxx.xx.xx> Subject: [microsound] =?ISO-8859-1?Q?[n.s]_on_resonance_FM:_tonight_12am_'special_Ital?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?y'_+_live_e.g.=F8?= To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_PgQDTpgBt9fxfVamV/7qMg)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_PgQDTpgBt9fxfVamV/7qMg) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit hello all -- [new website --> http://www.no-signal.net ++ catch a sound star ++ subscribe to the new mailing list under the Idoia.org server] -- While we prepare for our upcoming Italian projects (25.01 > 29.01), another late reminder for tonight's show on ResonanceFM 104.4 | www.resonancefm.com. TUNE IN / LOG ON -- [no.signal] | SMALL PIECES --> '[no.signal] in Italia' with + live guest our own e.g.ø (www.egzero.org) + first insight on UPCOMING [no.signal] _distribution (MOSZ and APESTAARTJE label). -- [when]: friday 14.01 | 12-1am gmt [what]: selected works from one of the projects presented in Italy this month: [1]: TARANTATA: a new project by Leafcutter John, Kaffe Matthews and Janek Schaefer --> www.no-signal.net/tarantata [2]: [no.signal] @ NETMAGE: GRAIN_SCAPES (GREG.DAVIS/SEBASTIEN/ROUX) + PHILL NIBLOCK/THOMAS ANKERSMIT --> www.no-signal.net/netmage05 [3]: SPACE IS THE PLACE with Leafcutter John and [no.signal]'s own e.g.ø --> www.no-signal.net/space -- expect tracks by: Greg Davis, Sébastien Roux, Leafcutter John, Thomas Ankersmit, Kaffe Matthews, Phill Niblock, Minamo, Kapital Band 1 [++] ||| more info to come soon... good listening -- [no.signal] www.no-signal.net infoATno-signal.net --Boundary_(ID_PgQDTpgBt9fxfVamV/7qMg)-- From ???@??? Fri Jan 14 19:49:01 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33811-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 14:49:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 14 Jan 2005 14:49:01 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 43934 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 14 Jan 2005 19:48:58 +0000 Received: (qmail 43924 invoked from network); Fri, 14 Jan 2005 19:48:56 +0000 Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 20:48:52 +0100 From: Arie van Schutterhoef <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound]' S T A L A G M I E T E N 1 ' In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <l03130301be0dd25fae4f@[213.84.105.55]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx ' S T A L A G M I E T E N 1 ' - Arie van Schutterhoef - http://knorretje.hku.nl/~schreck/SmietMP3/Stalagmiet1.mp3 Realized in the home-studio of the composer. Original sounds recorded with the BassBoxes http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/bassbox.html in the 'Veem'-Theatre, Amsterdam, during recording sessions with Hans van Eck and Hans van Koolwijk. Recorded different flutes on the BassBoxes, through extreme close-miking to capture the varying spectra and timbres, that were triggered by tightly structured pulse-trains, according to the Fibonacci-series. Sound treatment using different FFT-processes and cross-convolution. Used programs were 'Ceres3','MetaSynth', ' SoundHack', 'SonicWorx Artist' and 'Csound'on running on Silicon Graphics and Apple Computers. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ...................................................................... ` |Schreck Ensemble . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . + ` |# -laboratory for live electro-acoustic music- # | | http://www.schreck.nl/ | | http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/ | ` *===========================================================++ ` |Compositions http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/compo.html | ` |Samples http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/samp.html | ` |Patches http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/pat.html | ` |Videos http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/video.html | ` |Scores http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/scores.html | *===========================================================++ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ...................................................................... --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Jan 14 19:20:53 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33810-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.114]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 14:20:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 14 Jan 2005 14:20:50 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 28107 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 14 Jan 2005 19:20:47 +0000 Received: (qmail 28097 invoked from network); Fri, 14 Jan 2005 19:20:47 +0000 Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 20:20:44 +0100 From: ubeboet <xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] japanese music magazines? In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>, xxxxxx@xxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: ubeboet <xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=Le4zmw0TEN2E4i/zE0OzETq1OZJv1umQWjLp8IIIsIbM5qZndu/FG5dejQALDNzjfCIfOGkicwVT8xIc2cj8GOjg1VndAm+FhXwMnL+VAMwNJkPewbNIApGIZ3lqLUKtjgpTb4XdvtazbP6OdesCNn5cDiQGIwK+SVI3jBpn5Lc= X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx hi :-) Ok Fred: http://www.slidelab.com/okfred.html On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 13:07:20 -0600, jfrede <xxxxxx@xxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote: > does anyone know of any good japanese music magazines that feature electronic artists? > > j.frede > current location: los angeles, ca > www.jfrede.com > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > -- _________________________________ ubeboet - bleak ep out now: www.monocromatica.com/netlabel --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Jan 14 19:07:27 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33809-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.110]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 14:07:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 14 Jan 2005 14:07:26 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 18674 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 14 Jan 2005 19:07:23 +0000 Received: (qmail 18663 invoked from network); Fri, 14 Jan 2005 19:07:23 +0000 Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 13:07:20 -0600 From: jfrede <xxxxxx@xxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] japanese music magazines? To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: xxxxxx@xxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxx.xxx Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: <IMail v8.05> Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx does anyone know of any good japanese music magazines that feature electronic artists? j.frede current location: los angeles, ca www.jfrede.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Jan 14 18:46:07 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33808-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 13:46:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 14 Jan 2005 13:46:07 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 3970 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 14 Jan 2005 18:46:01 +0000 Received: (qmail 3948 invoked from network); Fri, 14 Jan 2005 18:46:00 +0000 Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 13:45:17 -0500 From: precursor <xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] essay on TWiki site In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BE0D7D6D.41DD%xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.0.6 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx on 1/14/05 1:13 PM, graham miller at xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx wrote: > reeks of adorno idiocy... > >> >> http://microsound.nexthop.net/bin/view.cgi/Main/IbanezEssay >> I also created a link to it from the main page so you can find it there >> as well: >> http://microsound.nexthop.net/bin/view.cgi/Main/WebHome >> enjoy! >> KIM >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> website: http://www.microsound.org > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > yuk --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Jan 14 18:09:45 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33807-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 13:09:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 14 Jan 2005 13:09:44 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 81582 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 14 Jan 2005 18:09:41 +0000 Received: (qmail 81572 invoked from network); Fri, 14 Jan 2005 18:09:40 +0000 Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 13:13:35 -0500 From: graham miller <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] essay on TWiki site To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73C-SYMPA (Macintosh; U; PPC) Content-type: text/plain; x-mac-creator=4D4F5353; x-mac-type=54455854; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en,fr-CA Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx reeks of adorno idiocy... > > http://microsound.nexthop.net/bin/view.cgi/Main/IbanezEssay > I also created a link to it from the main page so you can find it there > as well: > http://microsound.nexthop.net/bin/view.cgi/Main/WebHome > enjoy! > KIM > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Jan 14 17:44:42 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33806-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 12:44:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 14 Jan 2005 12:44:42 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 72237 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 14 Jan 2005 17:44:38 +0000 Received: (qmail 72226 invoked from network); Fri, 14 Jan 2005 17:44:38 +0000 Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 11:44:35 -0600 (CST) From: Mika Martini <xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] essay in spanish? In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_CvfP4tgt7KbDFEn/qHlatQ)" Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=JINel2pw2ShhSkuqq3OxTZqrSxWAUcDwI3E4wbCQCkBLWIIHMqlqUerptMAwBPQZpKP18S7Fpk/7dIdVUnJd5lbdoX1j2iCsju8fglnP64nUBc+feIcxKdS91GwBADBwGNUsmoiBgemlWNdBUvaXZxRYB2bvAypi1x2GIjq6S/o= ; X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_CvfP4tgt7KbDFEn/qHlatQ) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Kim: and the spanish version is available somewhere? Mika. Kim Cascone <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote: - a couple of years ago I was having dinner with friends in Barcelona. At one point in the conversation my friend Miguel (artist and journalist) mentioned something in passing about some DJ's having their flight cases of vinyl stolen by baggage handlers at the Barcelona Airport during a big dance music event. I conjured thoughts of a secret resistance movement to "DJ Culture" and was curious as to what their philosophy was. Not much is/was known about the people behind this 'vinyl liberation front' but Miguel was nice enough to send me an essay he'd written for a local newspaper. My Spanish being at somewhere around kindergarten level I asked some friends to translate the essay from Spanish into English. So after some cleaning up and formatting for the TWiki site I've finally posted the essay...you can find it here: http://microsound.nexthop.net/bin/view.cgi/Main/IbanezEssay I also created a link to it from the main page so you can find it there as well: http://microsound.nexthop.net/bin/view.cgi/Main/WebHome enjoy! KIM --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org ------------------------------------------- [M!M] [SCL] [www.mikamartini.scd.cl] --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Todo lo que quieres saber de Estados Unidos, América Latina y el resto del Mundo. Visíta Yahoo! Noticias. --Boundary_(ID_CvfP4tgt7KbDFEn/qHlatQ)-- From ???@??? Fri Jan 14 17:27:02 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33805-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 12:27:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 14 Jan 2005 12:27:02 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 64468 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 14 Jan 2005 17:26:54 +0000 Received: (qmail 64458 invoked from network); Fri, 14 Jan 2005 17:26:54 +0000 Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 09:26:49 -0800 From: Kim Cascone <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] essay on TWiki site To: microsound_list <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Loop-Detect: 1 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx - a couple of years ago I was having dinner with friends in Barcelona. At one point in the conversation my friend Miguel (artist and journalist) mentioned something in passing about some DJ's having their flight cases of vinyl stolen by baggage handlers at the Barcelona Airport during a big dance music event. I conjured thoughts of a secret resistance movement to "DJ Culture" and was curious as to what their philosophy was. Not much is/was known about the people behind this 'vinyl liberation front' but Miguel was nice enough to send me an essay he'd written for a local newspaper. My Spanish being at somewhere around kindergarten level I asked some friends to translate the essay from Spanish into English. So after some cleaning up and formatting for the TWiki site I've finally posted the essay...you can find it here: http://microsound.nexthop.net/bin/view.cgi/Main/IbanezEssay I also created a link to it from the main page so you can find it there as well: http://microsound.nexthop.net/bin/view.cgi/Main/WebHome enjoy! KIM --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Jan 14 14:29:39 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33804-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 09:29:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 14 Jan 2005 09:29:39 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 83642 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 14 Jan 2005 14:29:36 +0000 Received: (qmail 83619 invoked from network); Fri, 14 Jan 2005 14:29:35 +0000 Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 09:29:31 -0500 From: vze26m98 <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] [~OT] OMS Midi Manager Driver? In-reply-to: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <r02010400-1035-B4DE1090663811D996A4000D932C0D78@[67.84.254.108]> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mailsmith 2.1.4 (Blindsider) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Sorry for the tech-related posting: I'm trying to locate a copy of the OMS MidiManager Driver to get a copy of HMSL talking to Max/MSP on OS 9. Perhaps I might also need the OMS version that supported the driver as I only have version 2.3.8. I've had no luck so far locating this stuff on the Internet. If anyone has information (such as what version OMS had this driver) or the driver, or the install package, I'd be greatly appreciative! Best, Tad <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Jan 14 14:01:11 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33803-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.114]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 09:01:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 14 Jan 2005 09:01:11 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 73815 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 14 Jan 2005 14:01:08 +0000 Received: (qmail 73805 invoked from network); Fri, 14 Jan 2005 14:01:08 +0000 Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 23:00:18 +0900 From: cherry music <xxxxxx_xxxxx_@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] new release of cherry music X-Originating-IP: [218.251.49.132] X-Sender: xxxxxx_xxxxx_@xxxxxxx.xxx To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Bcc: Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-2022-jp Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Originating-Email: [xxxxxx_xxxxx_@xxxxxxx.xxx] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Jan 2005 14:01:07.0205 (UTC) FILETIME=[7E4D9B50:01C4FA41] hello friends. Information of new release of cherry music !!! We did new release on January 10. The title is$B!!(B[ costarring from cherry farm02 ]. Field recordings and the band sound electricity are processed, pure electornic music, and a noise$B!!(Bsounds makes by 14 artists mutually did the collaboration and it made it up. Music who is excited very much and is new$B!!(B!!!!! We encompass them in a handmade package. The package might be a thing to give you warm warmth by using the cloth...... If you request it, we will deliver this music all over the world. Please obtain information detailed with our web site. cherry music http://cherrymusic.info/ costtaring from cherry farm 02 index 1.hiroyuki ura + asamo_______ " soonor " (5:02) 2.andre goncalves+shinjiro yamaguchi(iodo)_______"capermoon" (7:32) 3.inukai+cocoaskull_______"formog" (3:20) 4.inukai+cocoaskull_______ " umiutiwa"(4:06) 5.Darren McClure+Allan Hughes_______ " trk 5.3" (4:07) 6.Darren McClure+Allan Hughes_______ " festival (fagetta mix)" " (3:37) 7.corona+askococo_______ "don't busride"(12:56) 8.corona+askococo_______ " don't surfride" " (3:24) 9.rere+justino[ruidobello]_______ " TORRENTE" " (10:03) 10.minn+jacob ludvigsen_______"notitle" (6:34) >>>please send your demo tapes we are looking for fresh experimental sounds from all over the world.please send your demo tapes and cd to the below address. and please note that we can't return the materials nor place comments on them. >>>Under collaboration collection Let's make a work together with us. We expect that these trials will become pleasant. >We ask for the following men. Designer . Graphic artist . Photographer . Editorial Designer . Painter . Musician . Builder . Engraver .. Dress and ornaments Designer . Dyeing artist etc$B!&!&!&!&!&(B It asks for a creative person. It is to xxxxxx_xxxxx_@xxxxxxx.xxx for details. Please let me know HP and career that your work can be seen. Let's enjoy ourselves together$B!*(B >>>address: 1020 nagatoro higashine-shi yamagata 999-3771, japan cherry music thank you !! have a great day. cherrymusic cherry WEB : http://cherrymusic.info cherry mail : xxxxxx_xxxxx_@xxxxxxx.xxx _________________________________________________________________ $BF|K\9qFb:GBg5i(B570$BK|%f!<%6!<$N(BMSN Hotmail https://registernet.passport.net/reg.srf?id=2&lc=1041 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Jan 14 13:43:42 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33802-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.83]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 08:43:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 14 Jan 2005 08:43:42 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 66732 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 14 Jan 2005 13:43:39 +0000 Received: (qmail 66722 invoked from network); Fri, 14 Jan 2005 13:43:39 +0000 Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 08:40:59 -0500 From: ethan <xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Re: [ot] the 56k challenge To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx hey, by virtue of the way i write music i fall under the 'micromusic' category. i write free-running programs for custom DSP audio hardware. the final executables are around 60k or so, and that includes the whole synthesis and sequencing engine too (about 30k for the engine and 5k per song). there are examples of my music here: http://www.dspmusic.org/music.html i'd say that minivida and rivergods3 would most appeal to the microsounders. the last link on the page is for my first live set, played all in realtime on a 33MHz 10 year old DSP evaluation board. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Jan 14 13:34:06 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33801-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.81]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 08:34:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 14 Jan 2005 08:34:06 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 63775 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 14 Jan 2005 13:34:02 +0000 Received: (qmail 63763 invoked from network); Fri, 14 Jan 2005 13:34:01 +0000 Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 21:33:42 +0800 From: vul3jp6 <xxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] [ot] World Wide Ambient Vigil for Aceh X-Originating-IP: [217.88.120.84] X-Sender: xxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx To: xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx, microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 Content-type: text/plain; reply-type=original; charset=big5; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Originating-Email: [xxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Jan 2005 13:34:00.0852 (UTC) FILETIME=[B4EBD540:01C4FA3D] Time. 22 Jan 9:30pm to 23 Jan 9am World Wide Ambient Vigil for Aceh My name is Pei, I am a visiting sound artist here in Berlin and currently organizing an event to rise an awareness of ongoing project "Nature force", combining with the Indonesian aiding event "Ambient Vigil for Aceh" which was originally announced by Jimmy Wang. He is a photojournalist based in Jakarta. His purpose of this event is to mediate with helps as well as to raise a fund for Aceh through donation. This event will be held on 22nd and 23rd of Jan by several cities across the global including UK, US, AUS, TAIWAN, JAPAN, INDONESIA. I would like to progress this event here as part in Berlin. At the moment I am asking Indonesian youth association to participate. The possible location may be one of the studio room in universitat der kunst Berlin or screening venue. Please send email to me regards to subject of "Nature Force" if you are : + sound artists/musicians play live, ambient music in varieties. + video artist with still, motion for reprojection. + one whom have concerns are related. + one could advice equipments and better location. Plz forward this message to people that you know might be interested. Warm appreciated. Programer + Pei, Shiho Sato + World Wide Ambient Vigil for Aceh Bolg + http://blog.winggang.com + Jimmy Wang's personal WebSite + www.winggang.com + Pei's personal WebSite + www.post-concrete.com/pei + email to xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Jan 14 11:58:05 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33800-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.112]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 06:58:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 14 Jan 2005 06:58:04 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 33178 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 14 Jan 2005 11:58:01 +0000 Received: (qmail 33153 invoked from network); Fri, 14 Jan 2005 11:58:00 +0000 Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 11:58:06 +0000 From: Christopher Murphy <xxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Current email address for Josh Russell...? In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BE0D644E.F6DA%xxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.1.2418 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Dear All, I'm looking for a current email address for Josh Russell (of Bremsstrahlung). Can anyone oblige? The email addresses I have all seem to be out-of-date and bouncing and www.lowecasesound.com is down... If anyone has one could they please post me off list: xxxxx@xxxxx.xxx Many thanks. Best, Christopher @ Fallt | """..NOW PLAYING..00.01.2005---||||... | 0000 | XXXX---- MR MONDAY | POWER/KNOWLEDGE EP --------------------- <> | XXXX---- RUMBLEDUB | GOD IS IN THE HOUSE EP ----------- \\ | 0000 \\\\..\\\\ http://www.fallt.com | xxxx@xxxxx.xxx --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Jan 14 11:44:10 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33799-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 06:44:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 14 Jan 2005 06:44:10 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 29702 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 14 Jan 2005 11:43:53 +0000 Received: (qmail 29689 invoked from network); Fri, 14 Jan 2005 11:43:53 +0000 Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 20:43:51 +0900 From: takahiro kawaguchi <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] hola In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: takahiro kawaguchi <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=mXWEr2I2gMNKxeIq3s1yYQeqoQg6w7c+XdiMY/1VOXp3f+l//gDil9fw//AN386A8/UXrdF890TGMHkPRGU1B9qPd7tQYXOGgwR0AYAnoAjZOlD/3T3KTE0AZvoQVqs37vyDdQdpdGwguT1gmL4TujoArNb8r+26Li7uIh+Wyxc= X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx hi bill I am very glad you visit my website and the listen to my music. The music that existed in the sample was made from the conference by E-mail and the collaborative activity by air mail. Jastino made it up by music of jastino and rere using only my fieldrecordings. The music of darren and rere was made by exchanging pure music. Do you make music? I hope to hear them if you make music. Thanks all the bests. rere/takahiro kawaguchi http://www.eonet.ne.jp/~rere/ On Sun, 11 Jan 2004 14:30:02 -0800, Bill Jarboe <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote: > > hi, > > i really like the look of the blog. i'm not sure about the 'rere and > jastino' sample , though it's a good kind of not sure. > > > On Jan 11, 2005, at 1:35 AM, takahiro kawaguchi wrote: > > > hallo friends. > > I newly made the homepage. The sample of some sounds is set up there. > > If you check it, I might be very happy. And, to be going to keep > > taking contacting with you in the future, I made these.... > > > > thanks > > all the bests. > > > > check my web site > > http://www.eonet.ne.jp/~rere/ > > > > blog > > http://port.jugem.cc/ > > > > rere/takahiro kawaguchi > > > > e-mail > > xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx > > > > > Bill > > direct strategy # 943: talk interesting nonsense until someone forces > you to stop. > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Jan 14 11:43:33 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33798-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 06:43:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 14 Jan 2005 06:43:33 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 28139 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 14 Jan 2005 11:43:29 +0000 Received: (qmail 28127 invoked from network); Fri, 14 Jan 2005 11:43:29 +0000 Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 20:43:28 +0900 From: takahiro kawaguchi <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] hola In-reply-to: <BE0A1A10.415C%xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: takahiro kawaguchi <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=lo75IzxuIvHdckjdM3Yfnw37Qc9VkRQkuuE779GLuVRs+6y39bwSH5L96VO1ckTf2Ej1Nwk9h0moP0mtICJSUzwfm4cR1Z+BZwPAlXP1Uy7qrLTp2i0F44FlGIC7ugbMyUUjo1pMvL3cB9u5AYX2OrPMUEuuxyJqc7eNTkPFo2w= X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> <BE0A1A10.415C%xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx hi I am very glad you visit my website and the listen to my music. The music that existed in the sample was made from the conference by E-mail and the collaborative activity by air mail. Jastino made it up by music of jastino and rere using only my fieldrecordings. The music of darren and rere was made by exchanging pure music. Do you make music? I hope to hear them if you make music. Thanks all the bests. rere/takahiro kawaguchi http://www.eonet.ne.jp/~rere/ On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 00:04:32 -0500, precursor <xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote: > on 1/11/04 5:30 PM, Bill Jarboe at xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx wrote: > > > > > hi, > > > > i really like the look of the blog. i'm not sure about the 'rere and > > jastino' sample , though it's a good kind of not sure. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jan 11, 2005, at 1:35 AM, takahiro kawaguchi wrote: > > > >> hallo friends. > >> I newly made the homepage. The sample of some sounds is set up there. > >> If you check it, I might be very happy. And, to be going to keep > >> taking contacting with you in the future, I made these.... > >> > >> thanks > >> all the bests. > >> > >> check my web site > >> http://www.eonet.ne.jp/~rere/ > >> > >> blog > >> http://port.jugem.cc/ > >> > >> rere/takahiro kawaguchi > >> > >> e-mail > >> xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx > >> > >> > > Bill > > > > > > > > > > direct strategy # 943: talk interesting nonsense until someone forces > > you to stop. > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > website: http://www.microsound.org > > > > "though it's a good kind of not sure" > > :) > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Jan 14 03:11:38 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33797-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 22:11:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 13 Jan 2005 22:11:38 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 79946 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 14 Jan 2005 03:11:34 +0000 Received: (qmail 79936 invoked from network); Fri, 14 Jan 2005 03:11:34 +0000 Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 14:20:54 +1100 From: Ian Andrews <x.xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] [ot] the 56k challenge In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx.xx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BE0D85C6.10B00%x.xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.4.030702.0 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Gavin Stevenswrote: > I quite like this idea - it would give some extremely lo-fi sound, which > has always appealed to me. > Yes I have always liked using heavy file compression as an effect. The problem is that if every track uses the same compression scheme (eg. mp3) then they will all end up all sounding much the same. Perhaps using many different types of compression would be the way to go, each track using a different compression scheme. This would give the sound of the whole disk a lot more variety in its production. This is how I work with my flash produced audio tracks but with different compression levels and types with each track. eg. http://radioscopia.org/radiohack/ (smallest track is 6kB, largest is 26kB). ian --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Jan 14 03:11:09 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33796-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.112]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 22:11:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 13 Jan 2005 22:11:09 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 79007 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 14 Jan 2005 03:11:07 +0000 Received: (qmail 78997 invoked from network); Fri, 14 Jan 2005 03:11:07 +0000 Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 03:10:53 +0000 From: greg g <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] [ot] the 56k challenge In-reply-to: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> X-Originating-IP: [138.88.249.209] X-Sender: xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Bcc: Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Originating-Email: [xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Jan 2005 03:11:03.0381 (UTC) FILETIME=[AE366050:01C4F9E6] oh, and http://www.floppyswop.co.uk/ once again... yeah... do your homework greg >From: "greg g" <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> >Reply-To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> >To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >Subject: Re: [microsound] [ot] the 56k challenge >Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 02:33:38 +0000 > >you >guys >just >don't >get >it > >34 minutes. six (6) kb. you cant put any bitrate mp3 on a floppy if it's >30 minutes. you need tracker files > > >>From: Kevin Ponto <xxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> >>Reply-To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> >>To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> >>Subject: Re: [microsound] [ot] the 56k challenge >>Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 15:06:33 -0800 >> >>are we talking about the final master being under 56k or are we talking >>about composing pieces using under 56k of source material? >> >>k >> >> >>On Jan 13, 2005, at 11:37 AM, Shanan wrote: >> >>>one thing I don't get after having a bit of a play >>>around with mp3 compression - it seems easy enough to >>>get a 56k mp3 from a 56 second track, but i couldn't >>>find a way to get anything longer down to 56k. is it >>>possible? >>> >>>xxxxxxx@xxx.xxx wrote: >>>... >>>is over one minute and is no more than 56k in size >>>[wav or mp3]-t >>> >>> >>>Find local movie times and trailers on Yahoo! 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Fri Jan 14 02:34:12 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33795-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.109]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 21:34:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 13 Jan 2005 21:34:12 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 66476 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 14 Jan 2005 02:34:07 +0000 Received: (qmail 66465 invoked from network); Fri, 14 Jan 2005 02:34:06 +0000 Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 02:33:38 +0000 From: greg g <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] [ot] the 56k challenge In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-Originating-IP: [138.88.249.209] X-Sender: xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Bcc: Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Originating-Email: [xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Jan 2005 02:34:02.0756 (UTC) FILETIME=[829DE440:01C4F9E1] you guys just don't get it 34 minutes. six (6) kb. you cant put any bitrate mp3 on a floppy if it's 30 minutes. you need tracker files >From: Kevin Ponto <xxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> >Reply-To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> >To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> >Subject: Re: [microsound] [ot] the 56k challenge >Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 15:06:33 -0800 > >are we talking about the final master being under 56k or are we talking >about composing pieces using under 56k of source material? > >k > > >On Jan 13, 2005, at 11:37 AM, Shanan wrote: > >>one thing I don't get after having a bit of a play >>around with mp3 compression - it seems easy enough to >>get a 56k mp3 from a 56 second track, but i couldn't >>find a way to get anything longer down to 56k. is it >>possible? >> >>xxxxxxx@xxx.xxx wrote: >>... >>is over one minute and is no more than 56k in size >>[wav or mp3]-t >> >> >>Find local movie times and trailers on Yahoo! 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Fri Jan 14 00:34:01 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33794-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 19:34:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 13 Jan 2005 19:34:01 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 15970 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 14 Jan 2005 00:33:51 +0000 Received: (qmail 15931 invoked from network); Fri, 14 Jan 2005 00:33:51 +0000 Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 00:33:35 +0000 From: slow sound system <xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] slow sound system : new audio online To: Ambient <xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>, Dorkbot London <xxxxxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx>, DorkbotLondon-Blabber <xxxxxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx>, IDM <xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>, lowercase sound <xxxxxxxxx-xxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>, foundry news <xxxx@xxxxxxx.xx>, Microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>, Wire Announcements <xxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>, xxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx, xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <012b01c4f9d0$b3506240$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx SLOW SOUND SYSTEM LIE DOWN AND BE COUNTED some things happening in the next few months ... ------ NEW AUDIO ONLINE The next instalment of live sets is now online. Our audio archive at www.slowsound.net now has fantastic material from .murmer, Fred K.U., Gagarin and Dual, alongside other sets by Sebastien Roux, Motion / Recon, Duff Parka, Crucial Felix / Timeblind and Adam Butler / Vert. Thanks to our friends at www.archive.net for hosting. ------ SLOW SOUND SYSTEM, 13 FEBRUARY, THE FOUNDRY We're running the first of our Sunday afternoon listening sessions at The Foundry, East London. The February show features local heroes We're Breaking Up (TwoThousandAnd, Antiopic) and Cheapmachines (Kabuki Kore, NidNod). More details of this and further shows to follow ... ----- SMALL PIECES, 21 JANUARY, RESONANCE 104.4FM, MIDNIGHT-1AM GMT In the meantime, tune into Resonance 104.4fm every Friday night for the Small Pieces show, hosted by ourselves, HighpointLowlife, Sprawl and [no.signal]. We're in the chair on 21 January. 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Thu Jan 13 23:05:25 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33793-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.82]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 18:05:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 13 Jan 2005 18:05:25 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 75110 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 13 Jan 2005 23:05:22 +0000 Received: (qmail 75097 invoked from network); Thu, 13 Jan 2005 23:05:22 +0000 Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 15:06:33 -0800 From: Kevin Ponto <xxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] [ot] the 56k challenge In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Provags-ID: perfora.net xxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx login:85f6f213efa75345adbd40246e580591 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx are we talking about the final master being under 56k or are we talking about composing pieces using under 56k of source material? k On Jan 13, 2005, at 11:37 AM, Shanan wrote: > one thing I don't get after having a bit of a play > around with mp3 compression - it seems easy enough to > get a 56k mp3 from a 56 second track, but i couldn't > find a way to get anything longer down to 56k. is it > possible? > > xxxxxxx@xxx.xxx wrote: > ... > is over one minute and is no more than 56k in size > [wav or mp3]-t > > > Find local movie times and trailers on Yahoo! Movies. > http://au.movies.yahoo.com > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? 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Thu Jan 13 19:37:43 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33791-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.82]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 14:37:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 13 Jan 2005 14:37:43 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 43825 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 13 Jan 2005 19:37:41 +0000 Received: (qmail 43815 invoked from network); Thu, 13 Jan 2005 19:37:41 +0000 Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 06:37:38 +1100 (EST) From: Shanan <xxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] [ot] the 56k challenge In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm Comment: DomainKeys? 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Thu Jan 13 19:14:55 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33790-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.112]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 14:14:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 13 Jan 2005 14:14:55 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 34444 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 13 Jan 2005 19:14:53 +0000 Received: (qmail 34427 invoked from network); Thu, 13 Jan 2005 19:14:53 +0000 Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 11:14:50 -0800 From: Alberto Guedea <xxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Western Front Artists in Residency Performances To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: Alberto Guedea <xxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=cf5M4nrqdZYrvGkTg/SkXJ875mcDkKYlrUZAOHmKrr8BJ7QQ/VztFh8rs2N8owm50PxVOnj0dqUQJWghF1ad8UzFdVUdT9TKPp8dM5S2QrHFTfIckU3jafFjvXfAMnOVRf6PGpH8gbiSMOP+Y3/RViBnBY09egaqj0gXZOIwsr8= X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx WESTERN FRONT ARTISTS IN RESIDENCY PERFORMANCES: REVERIE NOISE CITY/ART'S BIRTHDAY Western Front Society Artists in Residency Performances for Art's Birthday and Reverie Noise City Absolute Value of Noise Alberto Guedea Anna Frizz Elizabeth Fischer Francesca Mizzoni Igor Santizo Jean Routhier Ken Roux Michael North Roberto Paci Dalo Friday, January 14th at 8 pm - $10/$5 S.C. - Night 1 Saturday, January 15th at 8 pm - $10/$5 S.C. - Night 2 Western Front. Vancouver, Canada 303 East 8th Ave. (604) 8769343 ONLINE STREAM Listen Live at: http://www.stream.aaeol.ca/stream.php?stream=reverie Winamp, Macamp Etc. More Information: http://www.reverie.aaeol.ca/CODE/venue.p?record=52 Alberto Guedea, Reverie Current Projects: Record_: http://reverie.aaeol.ca/CODE/venue.p?map_location=307 Repeat_: http://reverie.aaeol.ca/CODE/venue.p?map_location=301&record=47 Contributors, Sunday 16th and Monday 17th: Ars Acustica [Italy] CITR Radio [Vancouver] Kunstradio ORF [Vienna] Mlab [Helsinki] Modern Fuel Gallery [Kingston] Radio Kinesonus [Tokyo] Studio XX [Montreal] The New Gallery [Calgary] Video Pool [Winnipeg] Western Front Society [Vancouver] ---------------------------------------------- http://a--g.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Jan 13 19:05:44 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33789-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 14:05:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 13 Jan 2005 14:05:44 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 29245 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 13 Jan 2005 19:05:41 +0000 Received: (qmail 29233 invoked from network); Thu, 13 Jan 2005 19:05:41 +0000 Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 11:09:36 -0800 From: Thom Blum <xxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] San Francisco Tape Music Festival - Jan. 20-22 In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (Windows/20040913) X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx The New San Francisco Tape Music Center, sfSound, and ODC Theater present: The San Francisco Tape Music Festival January 20, 21, and 22, 2005 8:00 PM ODC Theater 3153 17th St (@ Shotwell) San Francisco, CA $15 [$12 student/seniors] each night $36 [$25 student/seniors] for festival pass Box Office: 415-863-9834 [2pm-5pm, Wed-Sat] A 3-night festival of fixed media audio art distributed in real-time across a sixteen-loudspeaker surround sound system. 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For additional details see http://www.sfsound.org/tape.html PROGRAM Thursday, January 20, 8pm :: "Cinema for the Ear" Dugal Mckinnon [o] [2001 -- New Zealand] Merlin Coleman FERN [2004 -- Berkeley] -- Howard Frederics The Raven's Kiss [1993 -- USA] Susan Parenti No Honey, I Can Do It [USA] Joseph Anderson ChAnGEs MUSIC [1996 -- USA/UK] Friday, January 21, 8pm :: "Electroclips" Miba Weird Birds [2004 -- Oakland] Tom Djll xmas xarols [1979 -- Santa Cruz] Gabriele Proy Wein West Bahnhof [1997 -- Austria] Morton Feldman Intersection [1953 -- USA] George Cremaschi End of Hope [2000 -- Oakland] The Molecules Bruce Lee [1998 -- Oakland] Richard Lerman Five Fence Pieces [1984-1990 -- USA] Matt Ingalls Scherzo Allergro Molto [2002 -- Oakland] -- Nicholas Virgo Westerlies [2001 -- UK] John Giorno Shit, Piss, Blood, Pus & Brains [1975 -- USA] Frank Zappa Nasal Rententive Calliope Music [1968 -- USA] The Molecules Scarsky [1998 -- Oakland] Richard Lerman Two Thatched Roofs [1984-1990 -- USA] The Molecules Snappy [1998 -- Oakland] Rudy Trubitt Car Wash [2004 -- Oakland] Saturday, January 22, 8pm :: "The State of the Art" Pippa Murphy Caspian Retreat [2002 -- UK] Kent Jolly Mirrors [1994 -- Berkeley] Eric Chasalow Portrait of the Artist [1997 -- USA] Douglas Quin Weddel Seals Underwater [2004 -- Petaluma] Ava Mendoza The Mind Electric [2004 -- Oakland] -- Gyorgy Ligeti Artikulation [1958 --Hungary/Germany] Martin Stig Andersen Sleepdriver [2004 -- Denmark/UK] Cliff Caruthers Ticktock [2005 -- Oakland] Jonty Harrison ...et ansi de suite... 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Thu Jan 13 18:39:18 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33788-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 13:39:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 13 Jan 2005 13:39:18 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 17783 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 13 Jan 2005 18:39:13 +0000 Received: (qmail 17771 invoked from network); Thu, 13 Jan 2005 18:39:12 +0000 Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 19:40:35 +0100 From: Noisejihad <xxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] [ot] the 56k challenge To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <01a001c4f99f$5e981d00$xxxxxxxx@xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx When floppys still were the talk of town (or a least just available/purposeful) we actually made a floppy comp. feat. approx. 8-10 bands badly recorded and even worse compressed, though you were still able to get an idea of what was going on, and we managed to fit approx 10-12 minutes on it... Lars IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII Next: Electrical Bonding on Desolation House >>> www.desolationhouse.com Now: Uncomfortable Positions - mp3-ep on Fukk God >>> www.fukkgod.org key to knowledge on danish noise >>> www.noisejihad.dk art >>> www.ideations.dk www.waldchengarten.dk ----- Original Message ----- From: "john saylor" <xx@xxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> To: "microsound" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 7:28 PM Subject: Re: [microsound] [ot] the 56k challenge > hi > > ( 05.01.13 12:57 -0500 ) Ben: > > too bad "we" don't have floppy drives, would be nice to mail out > > floppy(s) to each participant as documentation. > > maybe we can make the collection a torrent file [once it's done]. > > i'll try to put up a page on twiki this weekend. > > maybe someone[s] can write up an announcement [submission requirements, > time limits, &c.] > > -- > \js }*']$ _\ #` #http://or8.net/~johns ^;~*{[" > iraq body count: 15,289 [min] 17,503 [max] > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Jan 13 18:15:49 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33787-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 13:15:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 13 Jan 2005 13:15:49 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 7681 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 13 Jan 2005 18:15:46 +0000 Received: (qmail 7664 invoked from network); Thu, 13 Jan 2005 18:15:46 +0000 Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 13:28:25 -0500 From: john saylor <xx@xxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] [ot] the 56k challenge In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx hi ( 05.01.13 12:57 -0500 ) Ben: > too bad "we" don't have floppy drives, would be nice to mail out > floppy(s) to each participant as documentation. maybe we can make the collection a torrent file [once it's done]. i'll try to put up a page on twiki this weekend. maybe someone[s] can write up an announcement [submission requirements, time limits, &c.] -- \js }*']$ _\ #` #http://or8.net/~johns ^;~*{[" iraq body count: 15,289 [min] 17,503 [max] --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Jan 13 17:50:20 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33786-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.109]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 12:50:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 13 Jan 2005 12:50:20 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 92476 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 13 Jan 2005 17:50:17 +0000 Received: (qmail 92465 invoked from network); Thu, 13 Jan 2005 17:50:16 +0000 Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 12:57:30 -0500 From: Ben <xxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] [ot] the 56k challenge In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.606) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - secure.wehostusa.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - hyperreal.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - seasonalbk.net X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx develop the proposal too bad "we" don't have floppy drives, would be nice to mail out floppy(s) to each participant as documentation. best , >>> From: Gavin Stevens >>> >>> It occurs to me that, with such small files, it would be possible to >>> fit >>> 20 to 30 minutes of music onto a 1 MB floppy. Now that is >>> "microsound" >>> >>> On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 14:00:24 +0000 >>> xxxxxxx@xxx.xxx wrote: >>> >>>> i have an idea for a microsound project . lets all compose a work >>>> that >>>> is over one minute and is no more than 56k in size [wav or mp3]-t >>> >>> www.seasonalbk.net --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Jan 13 11:08:43 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33785-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.111]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 06:08:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 13 Jan 2005 06:08:43 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 30624 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 13 Jan 2005 11:08:44 +0000 Received: (qmail 30613 invoked from network); Thu, 13 Jan 2005 11:08:44 +0000 Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 11:08:27 +0000 From: xxxxxxx@xxx.xxx Subject: Re: [microsound] [ot] the 56k challenge To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Oct 18 2004) Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_gFSf5ys3/itdqWYm86P1yw)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Authenticated-Sender: dGlvbmxlZUBhdHQubmV0 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_gFSf5ys3/itdqWYm86P1yw) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit i dont care if its been done before.......lets do it again/better -t -------------- Original message from "greg g" <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx>: -------------- > http://mp3death.us/nahc/NAHC012.zip > > u lose > > mega sound 4 ever > > > > >From: Gavin Stevens > >Reply-To: microsound > >To: microsound > >Subject: Re: [microsound] [ot] the 56k challenge > >Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 23:56:47 +0000 > > > >I quite like this idea - it would give some extremely lo-fi sound, which > >has always appealed to me. > > > >It occurs to me that, with such small files, it would be possible to fit > >20 to 30 minutes of music onto a 1 MB floppy. Now that is "microsound" > >:-) > > > >Gavin. > > > >On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 14:00:24 +0000 > >xxxxxxx@xxx.xxx wrote: > > > > > i have an idea for a microsound project . lets all compose a work that > > > is over one minute and is no more than 56k in size [wav or mp3]-t > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > >For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > >website: http://www.microsound.org > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar – get it now! > http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > --Boundary_(ID_gFSf5ys3/itdqWYm86P1yw)-- From ???@??? Thu Jan 13 06:17:21 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33784-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 01:17:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 13 Jan 2005 01:17:21 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 69555 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 13 Jan 2005 06:17:20 +0000 Received: (qmail 69536 invoked from network); Thu, 13 Jan 2005 06:17:19 +0000 Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 01:17:23 -0500 From: "tobias c. van Veen" <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] [MTL] Upgrade: 20 Janvier, 2005 : avec -40 Project In-reply-to: <BE0B661C.1A0A0%xxxxxx@xxx.xx.xx> To: Microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BE0B7CA3.1A0D9%xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.4.030702.0 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx ================================================================ Jeudi, le 20 Janvier, 2005 / Thursday, the 20th of January, 2005 Société des arts technologiques (SAT) - 1195 St. Laurent ================================================================ THE UPGRADE! 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Thu Jan 13 04:25:21 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33783-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.81]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 23:25:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 12 Jan 2005 23:25:21 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 31988 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 13 Jan 2005 04:25:20 +0000 Received: (qmail 31978 invoked from network); Thu, 13 Jan 2005 04:25:20 +0000 Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 23:25:15 -0500 From: xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Subject: Re: [microsound] south american microsound To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx If you search the microsound archives with a phrase like: "south america" or "latin america" You find a posting with an extensive set of web links. The archives are at: <http://www.propheticdesire.com> Best, Tad ----- Original Message ----- From: Ben <xxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Date: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 12:43 pm Subject: [microsound] south american microsound - Re: [microsound] Manrico Montero + Karras - Free MP3 > is there a web reference for " microsound and sound art " related > works > ( not techno, electronica, or idm ) happening in south america ? > > the khora.org page looks impressive, but links to people are all 404. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Jan 13 02:50:10 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33782-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.111]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 21:50:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 12 Jan 2005 21:50:10 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 93986 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 13 Jan 2005 02:50:09 +0000 Received: (qmail 93976 invoked from network); Thu, 13 Jan 2005 02:50:08 +0000 Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 02:49:26 +0000 From: greg g <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] [ot] the 56k challenge In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx.xx> X-Originating-IP: [138.88.46.152] X-Sender: xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Bcc: Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Originating-Email: [xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Jan 2005 02:50:04.0797 (UTC) FILETIME=[959FF2D0:01C4F91A] http://mp3death.us/nahc/NAHC012.zip u lose mega sound 4 ever >From: Gavin Stevens <xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx.xx> >Reply-To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> >To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> >Subject: Re: [microsound] [ot] the 56k challenge >Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 23:56:47 +0000 > >I quite like this idea - it would give some extremely lo-fi sound, which >has always appealed to me. > >It occurs to me that, with such small files, it would be possible to fit >20 to 30 minutes of music onto a 1 MB floppy. Now that is "microsound" >:-) > >Gavin. > >On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 14:00:24 +0000 >xxxxxxx@xxx.xxx wrote: > > > i have an idea for a microsound project . lets all compose a work that > > is over one minute and is no more than 56k in size [wav or mp3]-t > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >website: http://www.microsound.org > _________________________________________________________________ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar – get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Jan 13 02:16:30 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33781-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.113]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 21:16:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 12 Jan 2005 21:16:30 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 82127 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 13 Jan 2005 02:16:26 +0000 Received: (qmail 82117 invoked from network); Thu, 13 Jan 2005 02:16:26 +0000 Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 18:20:56 -0800 From: io <xx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] FW: New class at Machine Project - Max/MSP/Jitter In-reply-to: <000801c4f868$79a0e010$xxxxxxxx@xxxxx> To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BE0B1B08.5A93%xx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx LA area list members might be interested in this jon ---------- Max/MSP/Jitter Workshop Instructor Brian Crabtree Machine Project, 1200 D North Alvarado street, Los Angeles Jan 16,23,30 and Feb 6 (Sunday) 5-8pm What is Max/MSP/Jitter? Max/MSP is a graphical programming environment, which means you create your own software using a visual toolkit of objects, and connect them together with patch cords. The basic environment that includes MIDI, control, user interface, and timing objects is called Max. Built on top of Max are hundreds of objects, that do a variety of rad stuff, including Jitter Jitter is a set of video, matrix, and 3D graphics objects for the Max graphical programming environment. The Jitter objects extend the functionality of MaxMSP with flexible means to generate and manipulate matrix data -- any data that can be expressed in rows and columns, such as video and still images, 3D geometry, as well as text, spreadsheet data, particle systems, voxels, or audio. Jitter is useful to anyone interested in real-time video processing, custom effects, 2D/3D graphics, audio/visual interaction, data visualization, and analysis. Who should take this class? This class is for anyone interested in using Max/MSP to create multimedia programs for sculpture, installation, performance and sweet technology art in general. This is an intro class, and no prior experience with MAX/MSP or computer programming is required. Objectives: Gather a broad understanding of the capabilities of Max/MSP/Jitter. introduction to many objects, organization techniques, design methodology, fancy tricks. presented as lectures interjected with experiments. lots of time for debugging and questions. We'll cover: basic techniques data management network communication midi external controllers generating/processing/analyzing sound and video What you'll need: computer (laptops are nice) msx/msp/jitter (30 day demo available from http://cycling74.com) What you might also want to bring (optional): headphones firewire video camera usb game pad Cost/Registration This workshop is limited to 10 people and we expect it to fill quickly. To avoid disappointment and general despair pre-register now. This workshop is $150 for 12 contact hours. Online registration and more information can be found at the Machine Project website. http://www.machineproject.com/classes/max/max_registration_open.php for more information contact Mark Allen via email x@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx or call 213-483-8761 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Jan 13 01:58:13 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33780-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.113]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 20:58:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 12 Jan 2005 20:58:12 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 73740 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 13 Jan 2005 01:58:10 +0000 Received: (qmail 73730 invoked from network); Thu, 13 Jan 2005 01:58:10 +0000 Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 01:57:57 +0000 From: sound no sound <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] come play soundnosound X-Originating-IP: [203.164.52.202] X-Sender: xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Bcc: Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Originating-Email: [xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Jan 2005 01:58:06.0940 (UTC) FILETIME=[533CB9C0:01C4F913] Hi Everyone, We are looking for acts to come play soundnosound in Sydney Australia. soundnosound happens every second Sunday of the month at the Lansdowne Hotel in Sydney Australia. What we do is put on diverse line-ups every month of noise (of any type), folk, psych, improvised, and basically anything interesting in a pub. The reason for this? Is to get this music out to a wider audience in Australia and show people something different to what they're use to seeing, even with the line-ups that we present, where we would have an improvised noise group playing with a psychedelic hardcore band and a folk artist. Good interesting music is good intersting music. If anyone is thinking of touring to Australia or lives here and wants to play soundnosound we'd love you to get in contact with us at xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx Cheers, Mark our temp website: www.members.optusnet.com.au/soundnosound _________________________________________________________________ SEEK: Now with over 60,000 dream jobs! 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Wed Jan 12 23:58:10 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33778-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 18:58:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 12 Jan 2005 18:58:10 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 36441 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 12 Jan 2005 23:58:08 +0000 Received: (qmail 36431 invoked from network); Wed, 12 Jan 2005 23:58:07 +0000 Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 17:58:02 -0600 From: jfrede <xxxxxx@xxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Mac mini for microsounders To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: xxxxxx@xxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxx.xxx Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: <IMail v8.05> Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx pimp my mac ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: graham miller <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> Reply-To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 17:42:50 -0500 >totally bling. > >gm wrote: > >> already reading about one installed in a car >> > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >website: http://www.microsound.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Jan 13 00:05:00 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33779-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.112]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 19:05:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 12 Jan 2005 19:05:00 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 39502 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 13 Jan 2005 00:04:55 +0000 Received: (qmail 39490 invoked from network); Thu, 13 Jan 2005 00:04:54 +0000 Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 23:56:47 +0000 From: Gavin Stevens <xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] [ot] the 56k challenge In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx.xx> Organization: gavmusic MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.7.4 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-debian-linux-gnu) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx I quite like this idea - it would give some extremely lo-fi sound, which has always appealed to me. It occurs to me that, with such small files, it would be possible to fit 20 to 30 minutes of music onto a 1 MB floppy. Now that is "microsound" :-) Gavin. On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 14:00:24 +0000 xxxxxxx@xxx.xxx wrote: > i have an idea for a microsound project . lets all compose a work that > is over one minute and is no more than 56k in size [wav or mp3]-t --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Jan 12 22:38:59 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33777-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.110]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 17:38:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 12 Jan 2005 17:38:59 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 863 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 12 Jan 2005 22:38:58 +0000 Received: (qmail 853 invoked from network); Wed, 12 Jan 2005 22:38:57 +0000 Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 17:42:50 -0500 From: graham miller <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Mac mini for microsounders To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73C-SYMPA (Macintosh; U; PPC) Content-type: text/plain; x-mac-creator=4D4F5353; x-mac-type=54455854; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en,fr-CA Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx totally bling. gm wrote: > already reading about one installed in a car > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Jan 12 22:37:35 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33776-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 17:37:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 12 Jan 2005 17:37:35 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 98897 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 12 Jan 2005 22:37:31 +0000 Received: (qmail 98814 invoked from network); Wed, 12 Jan 2005 22:37:31 +0000 Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 14:37:27 -0800 From: gm <xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Mac mini for microsounders In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: gm <xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=bl6Pr2oN17yyd/SsWeI9E0uzlxC4L4iAkVd62eZinLpBZt7BZjBX1Vz7l9PsQm9y2FrL0mbYaGwyV1l23vPW/5Mc6ujDNYF+wPSBxdip9Le9PuNtH4wDD01b4/YSr1xCMOCw2nT49kx6OIx/CVFQH4rliTqCd6xeHoHjnjAVdAI= X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx already reading about one installed in a car On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 20:31:36 -0800, Trevor Mcpherson <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> wrote: > Hmmmm.... > A step towards replacing the home entertainment centre with one shiny > little box? > The magpie in me is excited - like I need another shiny digital device. > > On 11-Jan-05, at 11:28 AM, Kim Cascone wrote: > > > http://www.apple.com/macmini/ > > > > not vaporware after all > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > website: http://www.microsound.org > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Jan 12 22:03:42 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33775-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.81]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 17:03:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 12 Jan 2005 17:03:42 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 77307 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 12 Jan 2005 22:03:37 +0000 Received: (qmail 77295 invoked from network); Wed, 12 Jan 2005 22:03:37 +0000 Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 16:03:32 -0600 From: Chris Bryan <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] live net stream 3x3is9, S Moore, Mink/Dim Cost performance this SAT. To: taylor deupree <xxxxxx@xxx.xxx>, =?ISO-8859-1?Q?steinbr=FCchel?= <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx>, microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>, Kim Cascone <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>, =?ISO-8859-1?Q?J=FCrgen_Heckel?= <xxxxx@xxxx.xx>, jason kahn <xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>, "xxxxxx@xxx.xxx" <xxxxxx@xxx.xxx>, Dale Lloyd <xxxxx@xxx-xxx.xxx>, Christopher Murphy <xxxxx@xxxxx.xxx>, Bernhard Guenter <xxxxxxxxx@x-xxxxxx.xx>, xxxxxxx@xxxx.xx, xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx, xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx, xxxxx@xxxx.xxx, xxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx, xxxxxxx@xxx.xx, xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxxxx.xx.xx, xxxxxxx_xxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx, xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: Chris Bryan <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=cGF6naoSWbdPJUiTWLN6TsN29djfMb52qSRUJZt+N3cY2wExWZxeKuRinSuo/SJhiXLUtI6mzokJ4I4JnXmXKzJktN7tZ4hZR0M5NeNAaCaoKAEkh/XyGzFbSPz5AH3HaXAJAsuLS0xZBJIF5JFzF3n5Ot13kkFPcYpRyax06B0= X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Hello friends + fellow microsounders, Just wanted to invite everyone to tune into a live Internet streaming show I will be playing on Saturday January 15 2005, 8 pm - 9:30 pm CST. The event is for 'art's b-day' will feature performances by: 3x3is9 (me) Sandee Moore MINK/Dim Cost The event is a 'deep listening' concert and if you are in Winnipeg you can check it out in the basement of the Artspace / cinematheque building. Artspace 100 Arthur St. Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada info: http://www.cheapmeat.net/ArtsBirthday.html http://cheapmeat.net/ArtsBdayLive.html -- |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| (1.8)sec.records www.1pt8.tk |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Jan 12 21:39:41 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33774-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 16:39:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 12 Jan 2005 16:39:41 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 58420 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 12 Jan 2005 21:39:38 +0000 Received: (qmail 58387 invoked from network); Wed, 12 Jan 2005 21:39:38 +0000 Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 13:39:35 -0800 (PST) From: jake elliott <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] to montreal musicians To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx hello montreal musicians: i'm participating in david jhave johnston's etay.ca project, and would like to host an evening of improv music on tuesday the 18th of january. during my stay at etay, i will be building some contact-mic-based modules in the space that could server as source material for improvising electronic musicians, or as accompaniment for others. if this sounds like something you or your friends would be interested in, please let them and i know. i'd really just like to spend a day/evening working with experimental musicians from montreal and hopefully come away with some kind of recording we could trim down and distribute. best jake contact: xxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx info: structuredsound.net/jake/ || etay.ca --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Jan 12 21:16:25 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33773-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.113]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 16:16:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 12 Jan 2005 16:16:25 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 37963 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 12 Jan 2005 21:16:20 +0000 Received: (qmail 37949 invoked from network); Wed, 12 Jan 2005 21:16:19 +0000 Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 16:16:06 -0500 (EST) From: xxxxxxx@xxx.xxx Subject: Re: [microsound] wanna buy curtis roads cd('s) To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 8.0 for Windows sub 670 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_uyvwMTS4SvwwRowpl90umQ)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_uyvwMTS4SvwwRowpl90umQ) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 12/01/2005 21:06:20 GMT Standard Time, xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx writes: > i'm looking for some curtis roads cd's > i have looked around the web and couldn't find anything. > maybe i'm just really bad at searching, but if anybody have any clues to > where i could order, please let me know > > sofus > this isnt out yet, Ive been waiting months, but check it out : www.asphodel.com/cat/asp_3000.html "He who has rejected his demons badgers us to death with his angels" Henri Michaux www.alembic.me.uk --Boundary_(ID_uyvwMTS4SvwwRowpl90umQ)-- From ???@??? Wed Jan 12 21:06:00 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33772-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.112]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 16:06:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 12 Jan 2005 16:06:00 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 22415 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 12 Jan 2005 20:58:40 +0000 Received: (qmail 22405 invoked from network); Wed, 12 Jan 2005 20:58:39 +0000 Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 21:58:36 +0100 (CET) From: Onda Sonora Radio <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] CONTENTS ONDA SONORA 12-01-05 To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_7wAcSbYbzQ70VQ3n+83FrQ)" Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_7wAcSbYbzQ70VQ3n+83FrQ) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit ONDA SONORA (Radio Sesiones Experimentales), Madrid (ES) Radio Círculo de Bellas Artes 100.4 FM - Miércoles/Wednesday 15h - www.circulobellasartes.com Radio Autónoma 88.8 FM - Mar-Jue/Tue-Thu 16h - www.uam.es/ra Escucha en directo a cualquier hora / Listen live real time - www.ondasonoraradio.com _________________________________ CONTENIDOS ONDA SONORA 12-01-05 01. STRAND REMIXED BY COEVAL Track: Racing For Bucks Album: Strand. Guitars & Noises - Reworked By 9 Spanish Digital Artists Label: Tôi thích nh#7841;c Dos músicos electrónicos madrileños, Miguel Gil Tertre (Strand) y Juan Carlos Blancas (Coeval), con un corte que parte de guitarras y ruidos creados por el primero que el segundo se ha encargado de retrabajar para esta compilación, primera referencia del sello de Strand Tôi thích nh#7841;c, en el que también colaboran otros musicos del panorama electrónico español: .Tape., P0l4ro[:de], Un Caddie Renversé Dans L'Herbe, Pau Torres, Vleizes, Rec_Overflow, Eedl y Fibla Two electronic musicians from Madrid, Miguel Gil Tertre (Strand) and Juan Carlos Blancas (Coeval), with a track that departs from guitars and noises created by the first, that the second has reworked for the first reference of Strand's label Tôi thích nhac, in which other musicians of the Spanish electronic panorama also collaborate: .Tape., P0l4ro[:de], Un Caddie Renversé Dans L'Herbe, Pau Torres, Vleizes, Rec_Overflow, Eedl and Fibla 02. REC_OVERFLOW Track: Drug Store Album: Drug Store Label: Plataforma-ltw Rec_Overflow, junto a su corte para Strand, reaparece con un nuevo ep en Plataforma-ltw, "Drug Store", mientras ultima los preparativos para la publicación de sus nuevos trabajos en Spa.RK y WerkDisc Rec_Overflow, together with his track for Strand, reappears with a new ep in Plataforma-ltw, "Drug Store", while finishing his new releases on Spa.RK and WerkDisc 03. JULIE ROUSSE Track: Cervelle Spaghetti Album: Des Restes Humains .ep Label: Conv Conv es otro netlabel con base en Madrid, que presenta un nuevo ep. En este caso a cargo de una diseñadora de sonido de origen francés aunque residente en Canadá, Julie Rousse, que basa su técnica en el desarrollo de improvisaciones electrónicas y electroacústicas dentro de una narrativa abstracta Conv is another netlabel based in Madrid that presents a new ep. In this case it's a sound designer of French origin but living in Canada, Julie Rousse that bases her technique on developments of electronic and electroacoustic improvisations into abstract narrative environments 04. ELÍN Track: As The Phoenix Arises Its Radiance Strikes The Sun Album: Dark Vault Label: Enough Records El netlabel belga Enough Records recientemente editaba una compilación de ambient oscuro titulada "Dark Vault", un total de 17 cortes a cargo de 13 artistas diferentes entre los que encontramos nombres conocidos, entre otros Ubeboet, Tirriddiliu, Erratic o Elín, la islandesa Elín Anna Steinarsdóttir, que utiliza sonidos de origen electroacústico donde las texturas electrónicas de mezclan con grabaciones de campo y olas de ruido The Belgian netlabel Enough Records recently released a dark ambient compilation, "Dark Vault", with a total of 17 tracks by 13 different artists among who we find known names: between another nine, Ubeboet, Tirriddiliu, Erratic or Elín, the Icelandic Elín Anna Steinarsdóttir, who uses sounds of electroacoustic origin where electronic textures mix with field recordings and waves of noise 05. MERI VON KLEINSMID Track: Idle_chatter Album: Three Works EP Label: Stasisfield Desde Stasisfield (Illinois, USA), una artista residente en Seattle, Meri Von KleinSmid, quien lleva más de una década componiendo música experimental y arte sonoro, con una variedad de técnicas que van de la manipulación digital al collage pasando por la fonografía From Stasisfield (Illinois, USA), an artist residing in Seattle, Meri Von KleinSmid, who has been composing experimental music and sound art for almost a15 years, with a variety of techniques that go from digital manipulation to collage and phonography 06. DALE LLOYD Track: turba [imitable] Album: Lateral Minor / Turba Label: Stasisfield Continuamos en Stasisfield con otro artista de Seattle, Dale Lloyd, también conocido como director del sello and/OAR y por sus producciones a múltiples grupos de rock independiente durante los 90, aunque de un tiempo a esta parte se dedica esencialmente a trabajar con sonidos del entorno In Lithuania another netlabel, Sutemos, that soon will move to cd format, releases the new tracks by the French Florin Fabien (3tronik), this is the first of the 10 tracks included in "Mirror", a more mature work that last year's debut "KOma Proj3ct", though very close to the Autechre school 07. 3TRONIK Track: Revel Album: Mirror Label: Sutemos En Lituania otro netlabel, Sutemos, que pronto pasará a editar en cd, publica los nuevos temas del francés Florin Fabien (3tronik), escuchamos el primero de los 10 cortes que componen "Mirror", un trabajo más maduro que su debut del año pasado "KOma Proj3ct", aunque muy cercano a la escuela de Autechre In Lithuania another netlabel, Sutemos, that soon will move to cd format, releases the new tracks by the French Florin Fabien (3tronik), this is the first of the 10 tracks included in "Mirror", a more mature work that last year's debut "KOma Proj3ct", though very close to the Autechre school 08. BLEVIN BLECTUM Track: Pelican Part One, Two, Three and Four Album: Magic Maple Label: Praemedia / Bleakhouse Blevin Blectum, mitad del difunto proyecto Blectum From Blechdom y parte de la formación audiovisual Sagan, junto a Ryan Junell, Lesser y Wobbly en la costa oeste norteamericana. Este es su tercera grabación en solitario, "Magic Maple", un disco en el que todo parece estar desencajado que edita desde Chicago el sello Praemedia Blevin Blectum, half of the deceased project Blectum From Blechdom, and a part of the audiovisual outfit Sagan, next to Ryan Junell, Lesser and Wobbly in the US Western Coast. This is her third solo recording, "Magic Maple", a record in which everything seems to be disjointed, that releases from Chicago the Praemedia label 09. EXCEPTER Track: Give Me The Cave / Free From Muscles / Hallways / Drone / Breast Of The Wave Offering / The Fire And The Wood Album: Ka Label: Fusetron Cerramos desde Brooklyn con J.F. Ryan, integrante de la No-Neck Blues Band, y su proyecto Excepter, que vuelve a sonar unos meses después en nuestro programa tras la publicación en cd de su álbum "Ka", anteriormente editado en una limitada versión sólo en vinilo. El cd, una exploración del caos, incluye, aparte de las tomas originales, varios nuevos cortes procedentes del EP "Vacation", convenientemente mezclados en el contexto para la ocasión We close from Brooklyn, with J.F. Ryan, component of the No-Neck Blues Band, with his Excepter project, that sounds some months later again in our program after the cd release of his album "Ka", previously only in vinyl version. The cd, an exploration of chaos, includes, apart from the original takings, several new tracks coming from the "Vacation EP", conveniently blended in the context for the occasion ______ Nota: Este mensaje no ha sido solicitado, pero consideramos que podría interesarte. 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Wed Jan 12 18:38:50 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33767-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.111]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 13:38:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 12 Jan 2005 13:38:50 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 34412 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 12 Jan 2005 18:38:46 +0000 Received: (qmail 34402 invoked from network); Wed, 12 Jan 2005 18:38:45 +0000 Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 12:38:42 -0600 (CST) From: Mika Martini <xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] south american microsound In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_rqoUIfPDT1Oy/ZTD5BYIOw)" Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=Ox0d6wYrSdk5lDAwM5cZgDgaV73VnuBHUqy6KnfsPAu6FwSrMF/lT5Mn7ZZ9FN92szH/Da+2CsuAFr1EAya5piu3gwSUqlzNoMv3NL3dEZf3LoalSV393D7LHFoBMSbyKdIbYoJs4zuBPCP+CcqJLu3O++Cafb7j5urVdIdLBM8= ; X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_rqoUIfPDT1Oy/ZTD5BYIOw) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I have a web from my proyect "Chiste" (its a new proyect of experimental electronic from Chile), but in any case... (check the link "community"). http://www.mikamartini.scd.cl/Chiste_index.htm Mika Martini. Ben <xxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote: is there a web reference for " microsound and sound art " related works ( not techno, electronica, or idm ) happening in south america ? the khora.org page looks impressive, but links to people are all 404. thanks for any help - ben On Jan 11, 2005, at 11:43 AM, Manrico Montero wrote: > Greetings from Mexico City, > > > http://www.khora.org > > www.seasonalbk.net --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org ------------------------------------------- [M!M] [SCL] [www.mikamartini.scd.cl] --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Todo lo que quieres saber de Estados Unidos, América Latina y el resto del Mundo. Visíta Yahoo! Noticias. --Boundary_(ID_rqoUIfPDT1Oy/ZTD5BYIOw)-- From ???@??? Wed Jan 12 17:36:11 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33766-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.113]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 12:36:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 12 Jan 2005 12:36:10 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 89239 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 12 Jan 2005 17:36:07 +0000 Received: (qmail 89228 invoked from network); Wed, 12 Jan 2005 17:36:07 +0000 Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 12:43:15 -0500 From: Ben <xxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] south american microsound - Re: [microsound] Manrico Montero + Karras - Free MP3 In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.606) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-PopBeforeSMTPSenders: xxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx,xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx,xxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - secure.wehostusa.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - hyperreal.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - seasonalbk.net X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx is there a web reference for " microsound and sound art " related works ( not techno, electronica, or idm ) happening in south america ? the khora.org page looks impressive, but links to people are all 404. thanks for any help - ben On Jan 11, 2005, at 11:43 AM, Manrico Montero wrote: > Greetings from Mexico City, > > > http://www.khora.org > > www.seasonalbk.net --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Jan 12 17:09:46 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33765-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 12:09:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 12 Jan 2005 12:09:46 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 71045 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 12 Jan 2005 17:09:42 +0000 Received: (qmail 71035 invoked from network); Wed, 12 Jan 2005 17:09:41 +0000 Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 17:09:49 +0000 From: Richard Whitelaw <xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] wanna buy curtis roads cd('s) In-reply-to: <BE0B0ABA.4542%xxxxx@xxxxx.xx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BE0B0A5D.36E4%xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.4.030702.0 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Hi Sofus Buy the point-line-cloud DVD from asphodel. Release has been delayed but is imminent they tell me. It amazing. Trust me. Richard On 12/1/05 4:11 pm, "Sofus Forsberg" <xxxxx@xxxxx.xx> wrote: > hi everybody > > i'm looking for some curtis roads cd's > i have looked around the web and couldn't find anything. > maybe i'm just really bad at searching, but if anybody have any clues to > where i could order, please let me know > > sofus > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Jan 12 17:06:19 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33764-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 12:06:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 12 Jan 2005 12:06:19 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 69032 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 12 Jan 2005 17:06:16 +0000 Received: (qmail 69021 invoked from network); Wed, 12 Jan 2005 17:06:16 +0000 Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 12:06:14 -0500 (GMT-05:00) From: Matthew Mitchell <xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] wanna buy curtis roads cd('s) To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: Matthew Mitchell <xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxxx@xxxxxx.xxx.xxx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Earthlink Zoo Mail 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx You could try the CCMIX 2 cd collection on Mode records. Its got a bunch of stuff from different composers, all associated with that institute in Paris: Xenakis, Julio Estrada, Jean-Claude Risset. There's a couple pieces by Roads on there. Those are the only pieces of his I've seen anywhere, actually. The above CD is still available in the US, I believe, not sure about elsewhere. -matt >>hi everybody i'm looking for some curtis roads cd's i have looked around the web and couldn't find anything. maybe i'm just really bad at searching, but if anybody have any clues to where i could order, please let me know sofus www.mattmitchell.us Listen to free music, read the blog, sign the guestbook! --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Jan 12 16:07:58 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33762-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 11:07:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 12 Jan 2005 11:07:58 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 36136 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 12 Jan 2005 16:07:55 +0000 Received: (qmail 36125 invoked from network); Wed, 12 Jan 2005 16:07:54 +0000 Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 11:14:00 -0500 From: richard chartier / LINE <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Article on the changing nature of technological sounds To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Cc: xxxxxxxxx-xxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_hbI9wUb446L92NzkoFBQxw)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_hbI9wUb446L92NzkoFBQxw) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit an interesting short article about the changing nature of technological sounds and the smithsonians attempt to preserve them: http://www.fortwayne.com/mld/journalgazette/news/nation/10549422.htm R I C H A R D C H A R T I E R http://www.3particles.com xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx <<< CD . 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Wed Jan 12 16:11:29 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33763-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 11:11:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 12 Jan 2005 11:11:29 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 38598 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 12 Jan 2005 16:11:26 +0000 Received: (qmail 38586 invoked from network); Wed, 12 Jan 2005 16:11:25 +0000 Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 17:11:23 +0100 From: Sofus Forsberg <xxxxx@xxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] wanna buy curtis roads cd('s) To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BE0B0ABA.4542%xxxxx@xxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/9.0.2509 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx hi everybody i'm looking for some curtis roads cd's i have looked around the web and couldn't find anything. maybe i'm just really bad at searching, but if anybody have any clues to where i could order, please let me know sofus --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Jan 12 16:07:43 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33761-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 11:07:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 12 Jan 2005 11:07:42 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 34966 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 12 Jan 2005 16:07:39 +0000 Received: (qmail 34952 invoked from network); Wed, 12 Jan 2005 16:07:39 +0000 Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 17:07:36 +0100 From: Sofus Forsberg <xxxxx@xxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] newcommer - introduction To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BE0B09D7.453F%xxxxx@xxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/9.0.2509 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx hi everybody this list is GREAT. my name is sofus forsberg. i'm an electronic music maker....!!! things i have done: played in danish heavy funk/rap metal band in the 90's (guitar) in the style of helmet, meshuggah, RATM, living color, 24/7 spyz etc. started messing around with computers, and computermusic '97. worked as an electronic equipment consultant in a major music store. (synthesizers, samplers, speakers, outboard gear, digital equipment) released an album 2002, played lots of concerts....! began taking a master degree in electronic music composition on the royal danish academy of music 2004 with leafcutter john as my compositional teacher. hope to have good discussions with y'all in the future.... all the best sofus forsberg aarhus - denmark please check my homepage: www.sofusforsberg.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Jan 12 15:52:30 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33760-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 10:52:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 12 Jan 2005 10:52:30 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 25780 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 12 Jan 2005 15:52:25 +0000 Received: (qmail 25634 invoked from network); Wed, 12 Jan 2005 15:52:24 +0000 Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 09:52:20 -0600 (CST) From: Mika Martini <xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] nicron sound comp - call for works In-reply-to: <004301c4f88f$a7d3e4b0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>, xxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_L//byE9yoyN3rdITF8NU7Q)" Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=4W6CAk+Q6Rsnc+w3Cn2NoPVIXn0DuEtFoOzlBmh55Nhf+hkIBRqGojoYO1eflliME7cnbs/hVUB9+afjIUhY0jZa86q5CBdDenphsMBJdSZINi/ikOdieQjBNlb+uYa6iIdW+4p0rDN0hGOyXlQAni3u+DggpxzrPwZDJl790Fw= ; X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_L//byE9yoyN3rdITF8NU7Q) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit hi, we are interested... please visit: http://www.mikamartini.scd.cl/Chiste_index.htm Saludos! Mika Martini xxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xx wrote: hi, maybe you're interested... i'm waiting for contemporary electronic music works, sound compositions, which are made on the basis of the following samples and sequences (check http://porousher.hu for more details), including the free usability of the sounds, which are previously used in nicron tracks. so, the only condition is that the competitor should use only the samples of nicron, but the processing methods are free, any software, any hardware, procedures and technology are acceptable. nicron [http] porousher.hu [uin] 153.023.627 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org ------------------------------------------- [M!M] [SCL] [www.mikamartini.scd.cl] --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? 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Wed Jan 12 15:52:23 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33759-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 10:52:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 12 Jan 2005 10:52:23 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 25011 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 12 Jan 2005 15:52:19 +0000 Received: (qmail 24995 invoked from network); Wed, 12 Jan 2005 15:52:19 +0000 Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 07:52:16 -0800 From: Kim Cascone <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] box 'O CD's/outboard To: microsound_list <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Loop-Detect: 1 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx sorry but the 1 box I had to send off has already been claimed...I'm sure there will be a box #2 but I'm still trying to clear out some stuff from my studio... anyone need any outboard gear? these items are *NOT FREE* but I have a dbx stereo enhancer, a peavey graphic stereo EQ and a Niche fader box styled MIDI controller...email me off list if you're interested...they are all going for cheap cheap cheap... --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Jan 12 15:08:10 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33758-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 10:08:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 12 Jan 2005 10:08:10 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 3540 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 12 Jan 2005 15:08:07 +0000 Received: (qmail 3527 invoked from network); Wed, 12 Jan 2005 15:08:06 +0000 Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 15:07:33 +0000 From: andrew victor <xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] electro-music 2005 (Phila,PA) X-Originating-IP: [24.193.255.142] X-Sender: xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Bcc: Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Originating-Email: [xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Jan 2005 15:08:04.0819 (UTC) FILETIME=[84295A30:01C4F8B8] Some on this list should be interested: > >Call for participation > >We proudly announce electro-music 2005_(TM) , a three day international >conference/music festival to be held at the Cheltenham Art Center in >Philadelphia, June 3 - 5, 2005. The program will include lectures, >demos, jam sessions, and concerts. > >The scope of this festival is very broad, covering all aspects of >electro-music, experimental electronic music, including circuit bending, >computer music, electro-jazz, modular synthesis, musique concrete, >improvisation, noodles (generative music, automatic and algorithmic >composition), multi-media, visual art and much more. The focus will be >on participant involvement, sharing, community development, audience >education, and great music. > >Electro-music.com <http://electro-music.com> is an international >community of composers and musicians that share a passion for >electro-music. The community exists to create its own critical mass; to >enable its members to develop music on their own terms. Electro-music is >new music; still undefined; happening all over our planet. Electro-music >is the natural result of two techno/social trends: the availability of >low-cost powerful electronic music technology, and the communication >revolution enabled by the internet. Electro-music is not defined by a >particular style or sound, but by its primary motivation being the joy >of creation, and the love of electronic sounds; it crosses many genres. >For more information visit the event's web site. ><http://event.electro-music.com/> > >Participation can consist of lectures, talks, tutorials, demos, >performances, robotic sculpture, presentations, concerts, automatic >music, or other appropriate expression. If you would like to contribute >to electro-music 2005 follow the instructions in one of the following >guideline documents: > > For speakers <http://electro-music.com/event.php?t=4698> > For performers <http://electro-music.com/event.php?t=4697> > For demos <http://electro-music.com/event.php?t=4699> > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Jan 12 14:00:30 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33757-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 09:00:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 12 Jan 2005 09:00:30 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 81622 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 12 Jan 2005 14:00:26 +0000 Received: (qmail 81611 invoked from network); Wed, 12 Jan 2005 14:00:26 +0000 Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 14:00:24 +0000 From: xxxxxxx@xxx.xxx Subject: [microsound] [ot] the 56k challenge To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx) Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Oct 18 2004) Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_mxKHF7zOW4LOXk7ZlRZQ2A)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Authenticated-Sender: dGlvbmxlZUBhdHQubmV0 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_mxKHF7zOW4LOXk7ZlRZQ2A) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit i have an idea for a microsound project . lets all compose a work that is over one minute and is no more than 56k in size [wav or mp3] -t --Boundary_(ID_mxKHF7zOW4LOXk7ZlRZQ2A)-- From ???@??? Wed Jan 12 13:56:24 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33756-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 08:56:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 12 Jan 2005 08:56:24 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 80098 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 12 Jan 2005 13:56:20 +0000 Received: (qmail 80080 invoked from network); Wed, 12 Jan 2005 13:56:19 +0000 Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 14:56:16 +0100 From: "xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx" <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] otolab+staubgold In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040514 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx for those of you in the milano area in italy... -- Milano 14.01.05 Staubgold Sound System, 'music out of place' 23.00hrs Otolab, audiovisual opening set 24.00hrs Staubgold Sound System (visuals: Otolab) Cox18 via Conchetta 18 Milano -- Markus Detmer and Tim Tetzner, Staubgold founder and owner of the Dense record store in Berlin respectively, will perform in Cox18 a composite set, the outcome of a collaborative effort whose aim is to explore and deliver what they customarily refer to as “music out of place”. Otolab presents an opening set with an audio livemix of unpublished tracks and samplings by Dies Ordre, Maikko and Mud. The visuals for both sets have been realized by FD, Orgone and Xo00, expressly tailored for Cox18's stage. -- http://www.staubgold.com http://www.otolab.net --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Jan 12 12:54:31 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33755-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.112]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 07:54:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 12 Jan 2005 07:54:31 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 61186 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 12 Jan 2005 12:54:27 +0000 Received: (qmail 61175 invoked from network); Wed, 12 Jan 2005 12:54:27 +0000 Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 12:54:34 +0000 From: Richard Whitelaw <xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Expo 966 call - final reminder! To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BE0ACE8A.36B7%xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.4.030702.0 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx SONIC ARTS NETWORK PRESENTS EXPO 966 THE ANNUAL SAN EXPOSITION 17-20 JUNE 2005 In conjunction with University of Hull, Scarborough Campus Expo 966 is an opportunity to showcase the work of the best UK practitioners, to meet, listen and respond. After the success of last year¹s highly eclectic event in Leicester the focus now shifts northward with a packed weekend of SAN curated action hosted in association with The University of Hull, Scarborough Campus. This weekend of performance, exhibition and presentation will take place across a variety of public venues and spaces in Scarborough including concert halls, bars and nightclubs, each reflecting the unique culture of this northern seaside town. The weekend aims to highlight the broadest possible range of approaches and thinking that surrounds the sonic arts. We welcome submissions of all kinds. There is no charge for the submission or acceptance of work, and indeed entry to the weekend continues to be free to all members of Sonic Arts Network with most events free to all members of the public. We do ask that selected artists attend the event. This call is open to all UK practitioners and all international members of Sonic Arts Network. Call for Works, Papers and Commission Proposals Submissions Submissions are sought in all forms of sonic art including real-time interactive works, improvisation with technology, experimental electronica, instrumental/electroacoustic mixes, acousmatic music, installations, environmental sound work, performances, internet-based creative work, sound and image works and cross-arts work. Though we welcome submissions of all kinds we are particularly keen to receive submissions that reflect in some way the cultural context of Scarborough. Works must have been created after January 2004. Some resources are limited and, for example performers must be supplied by the submitting artists, however a range of performance and presentation spaces will be available at The Spa Centre on the Scarborough seafront (including a large auditorium with open stage and a generous bar space suitable for less formal concert presentation) and the Campus Centre, University of Hull Scarborough Campus (including two performance spaces, a bar space equipped with PA system and video projection and multiple rooms of various sizes for the presentation of installation work). There is also scope for outdoor performance and we will be staging late bar gigs on every night of the conference including a Friday evening opening gig at the Ocean Room at the Spa Complex on the Scarborough seafront and an exclusive electro-cabaret event for late Saturday night. Available equipment will include: a multi-channel sound diffusion system catering for projection of stereo and multi-channel works (ADAT or hard disk) and smaller, adaptable stereo systems suitable for installation work, Macintosh G5 (dual processing) and G4 computers (OSX and OS9.2) with Digi001, 002 and MOTU 828 Firewire (mark one) audio interfaces. Video projection facilities are also available. Research Papers Aurality and Identity Aurality and Identity is the theme of the final day of the conference (Monday 20 June 2005) that will be devoted to research presentations relating to the ever-increasing presence, and wider understanding of, the social implications of sound. This is to include the use of sound in projects and works that address concepts of cultural, social and political identities as well as the role played by aurality in learning and communication with regard to social development and education theory. Presentations may take the form of written papers or discussions of creative, research or practical work (including work in progress). Presenters should plan for 20 minutes presentation time and a further 10 minutes discussion time will be allowed. Submission Guidelines Submissions of papers and works should include: _ Title of work/paper _ Name of author(s) _ Contact details (name, address, telephone/fax, email, URL) _ Brief bio (150 words max.) _ Description of artistic concept (250 words max.)/Abstract summary of paper (500 words max.) _ For artistic submissions, the role of technology in realisation of work (100 words max.) _ Technical resources required for presentation (specifying those that can be supplied by the artist in the case of artistic submissions) _ For artistic submissions an audio/video example of work (CD or link to www site) *Please note, we require the written information to be emailed to Dan Stone at xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx and clearly labelled hardcopy of examples of work to be sent to: Expo 966 Sonic Arts Network The Jerwood Space 171 Union St London SE1 OLN United Kingdom Deadline for proposals: 31 January 2005 Commissions In addition to our call for existing works, we are once again pleased to offer two commission opportunities for the creation of new works to be premiered at the Conference. Proposals for work are invited from British artists or artists living and working in the UK. A sum of £1000 is offered for the creation, production and realisation of new work. Place, Environment, Location, Identity Works that address these themes and specifically the context of Scarborough, it¹s landscape, environment, history, culture and people are particularly encouraged. Commission proposals should include: _ Title of work _ Your name _ Your contact details (name, address, telephone/fax, email, URL) _ A brief biography (150 words max.) _ Audio/video example of your previous work (or link to www site) _ A Description of the artistic concept to be commissioned (500 words max.) _ The technical resources required for the presentation (specifying those which will be supplied by the artist) _ A simple budget specifying your fee, the production and material costs, presentation/performance costs, other costs (and any other sources of funding where required) *Please note, we require the written information to be emailed to xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx and clearly labelled hardcopy examples of work to be sent to: Expo 966 Commissions Sonic Arts Network The Jerwood Space 171 Union St London SE1 OLN United Kingdom Commission proposals should be clearly labelled and reach the Sonic Arts Network office by January 31 2005 The time-scale for creation and completion of work is 1 March 2005 to 1 June 2005 and proposals should demonstrate a strategy/timetable for successful completion within this period. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Jan 12 10:15:33 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33754-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 05:15:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 12 Jan 2005 05:15:33 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 28702 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 12 Jan 2005 10:15:35 +0000 Received: (qmail 28685 invoked from network); Wed, 12 Jan 2005 10:15:34 +0000 Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 11:15:20 +0100 From: xxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xx Subject: [microsound] nicron sound comp - call for works To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: xxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xx Message-id: <004301c4f88f$a7d3e4b0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 Content-type: text/plain; reply-type=original; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx hi, maybe you're interested... i'm waiting for contemporary electronic music works, sound compositions, which are made on the basis of the following samples and sequences (check http://porousher.hu for more details), including the free usability of the sounds, which are previously used in nicron tracks. so, the only condition is that the competitor should use only the samples of nicron, but the processing methods are free, any software, any hardware, procedures and technology are acceptable. nicron [http] porousher.hu [uin] 153.023.627 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Jan 12 05:04:39 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33752-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.112]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 00:04:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 12 Jan 2005 00:04:39 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 50833 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 12 Jan 2005 05:04:38 +0000 Received: (qmail 50822 invoked from network); Wed, 12 Jan 2005 05:04:37 +0000 Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 00:04:32 -0500 From: precursor <xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] hola In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BE0A1A10.415C%xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.0.6 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx on 1/11/04 5:30 PM, Bill Jarboe at xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx wrote: > > hi, > > i really like the look of the blog. i'm not sure about the 'rere and > jastino' sample , though it's a good kind of not sure. > > > > > > > > On Jan 11, 2005, at 1:35 AM, takahiro kawaguchi wrote: > >> hallo friends. >> I newly made the homepage. The sample of some sounds is set up there. >> If you check it, I might be very happy. And, to be going to keep >> taking contacting with you in the future, I made these.... >> >> thanks >> all the bests. >> >> check my web site >> http://www.eonet.ne.jp/~rere/ >> >> blog >> http://port.jugem.cc/ >> >> rere/takahiro kawaguchi >> >> e-mail >> xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx >> >> > Bill > > > > > direct strategy # 943: talk interesting nonsense until someone forces > you to stop. > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > "though it's a good kind of not sure" :) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Jan 12 04:32:04 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33751-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.113]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 23:32:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 11 Jan 2005 23:32:04 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 41939 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 12 Jan 2005 04:32:02 +0000 Received: (qmail 41928 invoked from network); Wed, 12 Jan 2005 04:32:02 +0000 Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 20:31:36 -0800 From: Trevor Mcpherson <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Mac mini for microsounders In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Hmmmm.... A step towards replacing the home entertainment centre with one shiny little box? The magpie in me is excited - like I need another shiny digital device. On 11-Jan-05, at 11:28 AM, Kim Cascone wrote: > http://www.apple.com/macmini/ > > not vaporware after all > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Jan 12 02:24:32 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33750-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.113]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 21:24:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 11 Jan 2005 21:24:32 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 106 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 12 Jan 2005 02:24:30 +0000 Received: (qmail 99995 invoked from network); Wed, 12 Jan 2005 02:24:30 +0000 Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 18:24:23 -0800 From: Kim Cascone <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] [ot] box 'O CD's To: microsound_list <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Loop-Detect: 1 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx ....goes to Brian Klein...I'll contact Brian off list to make arrangements :) KIM --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Jan 12 00:31:15 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33749-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 19:31:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 11 Jan 2005 19:31:15 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 54167 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 12 Jan 2005 00:31:13 +0000 Received: (qmail 54157 invoked from network); Wed, 12 Jan 2005 00:31:13 +0000 Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 19:31:18 -0500 From: andrew jones <xxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] [canada]: Digital distribution to iTunes, Napster, Rhapsody, MusicMatch and more! In-reply-to: <BE09D436.19FCF%xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <BE09D436.19FCF%xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx CDbaby.net has offered this for years for almost nothing, and there's a few other digital distros that do it for 20% of a releases profits. really 100 bucks to digitally distribute something? i mean it costs you nothing but time. peace, a On Jan 11, 2005, at 7:06 PM, tobias c. van Veen wrote: > Of interest -- (although a direct deal can be done with iTunes, I am > guessing this speeds things up a bit). tV > > > tobias c. van Veen -----------++++ > http://www.quadrantcrossing.org -- > http://www.thisistheonlyart.com -- > McGill Communication + Philosophy > ICQ: 18766209 | AIM: thesaibot +++ > > ------ Forwarded Message > From: "Indie Pool" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> > Reply-To: "Indie Pool" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> > Date: Tue, 11 Jan 05 18:19:14 -0500 > To: "xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx" <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> > Subject: Digital distribution to iTunes, Napster, Rhapsody, MusicMatch > and > more! > > First of all, Happy New Year to you and your family from us here at > Indie > Pool. We believe 2005 will be a ground breaking year for Canadian > independent recording artists. We anticipate major changes to the > worldwide > digital distribution network; modifications to Canadian content rules > that > will finally meet independent music requirements; and the introduction > of > satellite radio in Canada. Indie Pool will continue to be at the > forefront > for each of these issues. And now for the first order of business for > 2005: > > Indie Pool is proud to announce the continued expansion of its digital > distribution program. After months of negotiations with many parties, > Indie > Pool has secured distribution to the world's largest digital retailers > for > Canada's independent recording artists. Starting February 1st, Indie > Pool's > digital distribution program will not only include Puretracks, but the > following retailers too: > > NEW STORES : iTunes, Napster, Rhapsody, MusicMatch, Audio Lunchbox, > MusicNow, MSN Music Service, Downloadpunk.com, Sony Connect, MusicNet, > Liquid Audio, Australia's Destra, eCast, Wippit, and Musicstream. > > PURETRACKS U.S. : Last year, Indie Pool secured front of the line > service > for Canada's indies through Puretracks, Canada's leading legal digital > download store. Puretracks recently announced the launch of its US > store > which makes Canadian independents available on Puretracks in the United > States. > > SAME PRICE : $100 to distribute a full length album or $50 for a > single. > Artists already signed up with Puretracks may expand their coverage > free of > charge, by signing an updated agreement. > > OUR CUT : Artists will receive 90% of all revenues received from > digital > sales, Indie Pool keeps a 10% processing fee. > > MORE INFO : Please visit http://www.indiepool.com/digidistro or call > 1-888-88-INDIE toll free and speak to your Indie Pool Artist Rep for > further > details. > > > > > > > ------ End of Forwarded Message > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > Andrew Jones 912 Euclid Ave. Birmingham, AL, 35213 407-927-7607 blog: dignifieddevil.blogspot.com ---- aim: liminal18 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Jan 12 00:06:33 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33747-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 19:06:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 11 Jan 2005 19:06:33 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 40981 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 12 Jan 2005 00:06:29 +0000 Received: (qmail 40971 invoked from network); Wed, 12 Jan 2005 00:06:29 +0000 Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 19:06:30 -0500 From: "tobias c. van Veen" <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] [canada]: Digital distribution to iTunes, Napster, Rhapsody, MusicMatch and more! In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: Microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BE09D436.19FCF%xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.4.030702.0 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Of interest -- (although a direct deal can be done with iTunes, I am guessing this speeds things up a bit). tV tobias c. van Veen -----------++++ http://www.quadrantcrossing.org -- http://www.thisistheonlyart.com -- McGill Communication + Philosophy ICQ: 18766209 | AIM: thesaibot +++ ------ Forwarded Message From: "Indie Pool" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-To: "Indie Pool" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Date: Tue, 11 Jan 05 18:19:14 -0500 To: "xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx" <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> Subject: Digital distribution to iTunes, Napster, Rhapsody, MusicMatch and more! First of all, Happy New Year to you and your family from us here at Indie Pool. We believe 2005 will be a ground breaking year for Canadian independent recording artists. We anticipate major changes to the worldwide digital distribution network; modifications to Canadian content rules that will finally meet independent music requirements; and the introduction of satellite radio in Canada. Indie Pool will continue to be at the forefront for each of these issues. And now for the first order of business for 2005: Indie Pool is proud to announce the continued expansion of its digital distribution program. After months of negotiations with many parties, Indie Pool has secured distribution to the world's largest digital retailers for Canada's independent recording artists. Starting February 1st, Indie Pool's digital distribution program will not only include Puretracks, but the following retailers too: NEW STORES : iTunes, Napster, Rhapsody, MusicMatch, Audio Lunchbox, MusicNow, MSN Music Service, Downloadpunk.com, Sony Connect, MusicNet, Liquid Audio, Australia's Destra, eCast, Wippit, and Musicstream. PURETRACKS U.S. : Last year, Indie Pool secured front of the line service for Canada's indies through Puretracks, Canada's leading legal digital download store. Puretracks recently announced the launch of its US store which makes Canadian independents available on Puretracks in the United States. SAME PRICE : $100 to distribute a full length album or $50 for a single. Artists already signed up with Puretracks may expand their coverage free of charge, by signing an updated agreement. OUR CUT : Artists will receive 90% of all revenues received from digital sales, Indie Pool keeps a 10% processing fee. MORE INFO : Please visit http://www.indiepool.com/digidistro or call 1-888-88-INDIE toll free and speak to your Indie Pool Artist Rep for further details. ------ End of Forwarded Message --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Jan 12 00:26:41 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33748-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.114]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 19:26:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 11 Jan 2005 19:26:41 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 50857 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 12 Jan 2005 00:26:38 +0000 Received: (qmail 50847 invoked from network); Wed, 12 Jan 2005 00:26:38 +0000 Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 15:49:53 -0800 From: Kim Cascone <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] [ot] studio clean up To: microsound_list <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Loop-Detect: 1 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx I'm cleaning out my studio after my fall trip loaded me up with more CD's than I can store in my small work space... these are all demos and actual indie releases by people I've met on the road...please do not be offended if your CD happens to be in the pile but I would rather recycle these than toss them into the bin... so the first person to contact me off list will get a small box of CD's for the price of shipping please do NOT ask me to list what is in the box...consider it a grab bag of microsound and experimental music goodies I've collected in 2004 all I ask is that you pay for shipping - something like $3.00 for US/Canada and $6.00 for EU would work for me there are approx 25 CD's in the box in various styles of packaging... first person to contact me off list and pay me postage gets the box xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Jan 11 21:11:20 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33745-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 16:11:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 11 Jan 2005 16:11:20 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 56525 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 11 Jan 2005 21:11:15 +0000 Received: (qmail 56511 invoked from network); Tue, 11 Jan 2005 21:11:14 +0000 Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 22:11:12 +0100 From: punck <xxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] ctrlaltcanc records(?) new release : SINISTRI To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <004201c4f822$143c9e30$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Hi people, News from CtrlAltCanc Records (?) http://www.ctrlaltcanc.tk another great Mp3 Release: ctrl20: SINISTRI " The Raum Bathroom Report, Exc. #2 (Vamp in E)" from the Sinistri++ "Black Pulse vs White Space" project. Recorded with a camera mic, 11/11/2004 at Raum, Bologna (Italy). Manuele Giannini: guitar, amp. Roberto Bertacchini: drums. Alessandro Bocci: contact mic , mixer, space echo, synth, turntable Free downloadble here: http://www.ctrlaltcanc.tk Thanx a lot for your time Have a nice 2k+5 Ciao Ctrl+Alt+Canc feedback necessary!!! --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Jan 11 19:29:14 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33744-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.112]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 14:29:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 11 Jan 2005 14:29:14 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 85786 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 11 Jan 2005 19:29:09 +0000 Received: (qmail 85749 invoked from network); Tue, 11 Jan 2005 19:29:09 +0000 Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 11:28:53 -0800 From: Kim Cascone <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Mac mini for microsounders To: microsound_list <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Loop-Detect: 1 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx http://www.apple.com/macmini/ not vaporware after all --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Jan 11 18:33:02 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33743-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 13:33:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 11 Jan 2005 13:33:02 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 51721 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 11 Jan 2005 18:32:59 +0000 Received: (qmail 51711 invoked from network); Tue, 11 Jan 2005 18:32:58 +0000 Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 13:32:47 -0500 From: xxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx Subject: [microsound] Linux audio residency opportunity To: xxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx Cc: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx, xxxxx-xxxxx-xxxx@xxxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx, xx-xxxx@xxx.xx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Atlas Mailer 2.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-AOL-IP: 195.93.34.8 X-AOL-Language: english X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Hi Please forward at will. -- best, Jake ------------------------------- INVITATION TO TENDER OSAudio residency [Audio artist/producer/composer in residence at Access Space, April 2005] Deadline for applications: 4th Feb 2005 Decision made and applicants informed mid Feb 2005. Fee: £3500 sterling (approx 5000 Euros @ 6th Jan 2005) Access Space, Sheffield's lowtech digital arts organisation, is currently calling for applications for a month-long, audio residency. Access Space is a free media lab in Sheffield's Cultural Industries Quarter, offering open access to people with a range of knowledge and experience of technology. We are looking for an artist to develop their project using the recycled/reclaimed "redundant" technology and open-source software available in Access Space. The aims of the residency are: 1] To offer an artist/producer/composer the chance to develop ideas using only open-source software (on the Linux operating system) in a supportive environment. 2] To offer the users of Access Space an introduction to the creative process of making new work. 3] To produce a finished piece of work (see below for further details). The Residency: The OSAudio residency will take place in April 2005 (exact times/dates to be agreed). The successful applicant will get the opportunity to work for one month (or 20-day equivalent) in Access Space's open environment, with a degree of technical support and advice available from Access Space staff. As part of the residency, the artist will run 2 workshop sessions relating to the work involved in their residency, and an informal presentation for Access Space participants and members of the public. The resident will also document their residency in the form of an online diary. Available software includes the Planet CCRMA software, with PD, Rosegarden, Ardour, Jack, Audacity, Supercollider Server etc etc. Applicants should consider that part of Access Space's ethos is to only use recycled/donated hardware. Therefore, the available hardware is a P3 800Mhz machine with Sound Blaster sound card. The majority of the work-time will be monitored using headphones, due to Access Space being a publicly accessible project. The Work: We hope to encourage a broad range of applications covering all types of audio production, be they electronica, sound art, or more traditional recording practices using open-source software. Proposals can be to produce one or more specific audio works, or for development of patches, code or software. However, the resident should aim to have a completed product within the duration of the residency. The finished work will then be available for download from the internet. The Fee: A fee of £3,500 will be offered to the successful applicant, subject to the successful completion of the residency. A small contribution towards travel and accommodation expenses may be available where appropriate. How to submit your proposal: Please email or post us a proposal, of not more than 2 sides of A4 plus your CV, including details of your experience of working with open-source music software, your reason for applying, the starting point/s for your project and how you would approach the commission. Access Space welcomes applications from all sectors of the community irrespective of age, disability, race, religion, gender or sexual orientation. Please address the following points in your application: 1 - what form the finished work would take. 2 - how you propose to engage with the participants at Access Space. 3 - how much technical support would you need. 4 - how feasible is your project in the time available. 5 - what makes using open-source software particularly appropriate for your project? For more information, questions regarding hard/software, or to mail your proposal: Access Space 1a Sidney Street Sheffield S1 4RG UK 0114 2495522 www.access-space.org xxxxxx@xxxxxx-xxxxx.xxx Access Space is UK registered charity no: 1103837 Access Space gratefully acknowledges financial support from the PRS Foundation, Arts Council England (Yorkshire), and Digital South Yorkshire. --------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Jan 11 18:15:46 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33742-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 13:15:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 11 Jan 2005 13:15:45 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 39528 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 11 Jan 2005 18:15:40 +0000 Received: (qmail 39516 invoked from network); Tue, 11 Jan 2005 18:15:39 +0000 Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 12:15:38 -0600 (CST) From: Manrico Montero <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] Manrico Montero + Karras - Free MP3 In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_AlIkCy9rVy2ItSkdVDZgow)" Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_AlIkCy9rVy2ItSkdVDZgow) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit sorry if i send it these email twice but i didn't receive the email so i was paranoid etc, Greetings from Mexico City, just to share some of my stuff with the list, as Manrico http://www.soundclick.com/bands/8/manricomonteromusic.htm as Karras http://www.soundclick.com/bands/7/karrasmusic.htm :) Manrico Montero http://www.khora.org http://www.filtro.com.mx --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Net: La mejor conexión a internet y 2GB en tu buzón de Correo Yahoo! por $100 al mes. --Boundary_(ID_AlIkCy9rVy2ItSkdVDZgow)-- From ???@??? Tue Jan 11 17:04:21 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33741-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.111]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 12:04:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 11 Jan 2005 12:04:21 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 1711 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 11 Jan 2005 17:04:18 +0000 Received: (qmail 1701 invoked from network); Tue, 11 Jan 2005 17:04:18 +0000 Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 12:03:31 -0500 From: John Nowak <xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] life is random. In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx On Jan 10, 2005, at 5:33 PM, b.phenix wrote: > perhaps Xenakis and Cage have been playing on the iPods a lot over at > 1 Infinity Loop. My thoughts exactly. :-) - John --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Jan 11 16:43:45 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33740-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.114]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 11:43:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 11 Jan 2005 11:43:45 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 90986 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 11 Jan 2005 16:43:42 +0000 Received: (qmail 90976 invoked from network); Tue, 11 Jan 2005 16:43:42 +0000 Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 10:43:41 -0600 (CST) From: Manrico Montero <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] Manrico Montero + Karras - Free MP3 To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_Ir7NP6ntuRnBSw24U9GHbQ)" Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_Ir7NP6ntuRnBSw24U9GHbQ) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Greetings from Mexico City, just to share some of my stuff with the list, as Manrico http://www.soundclick.com/bands/8/manricomonteromusic.htm as Karras http://www.soundclick.com/bands/7/karrasmusic.htm :) Manrico Montero http://www.khora.org http://www.filtro.com.mx --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Net: La mejor conexión a internet y 2GB en tu buzón de Correo Yahoo! por $100 al mes. --Boundary_(ID_Ir7NP6ntuRnBSw24U9GHbQ)-- From ???@??? Tue Jan 11 15:19:00 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33739-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.111]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 10:19:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 11 Jan 2005 10:19:00 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 42426 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 11 Jan 2005 15:18:56 +0000 Received: (qmail 42416 invoked from network); Tue, 11 Jan 2005 15:18:56 +0000 Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 08:16:30 -0700 From: xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx Subject: [microsound] !! generative audio ^% To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7.2 (Windows/20040707) X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx hello list and happy 2005 to all, i hope everyone had happy holidays and has great things planned for the new year... with that said... i have found a strong interest inside me which had not existed prior and that being in the generative audio processing field... i am curious as to see if ppl could share links to either music in this field, or to research papers, communities, boards and forums, advice, and your own personal experience. i recently have started using koan pro myself, and am eagerly awaiting any replies i may get regarding this field... reply on list or off at your discretion... i apologise if this topic has been mentioned before and i am thanking you in advance... the more it changes, the more its the same thing, d. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Jan 11 09:35:53 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33738-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 04:35:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 11 Jan 2005 04:35:53 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 55795 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 11 Jan 2005 09:35:55 +0000 Received: (qmail 55783 invoked from network); Tue, 11 Jan 2005 09:35:55 +0000 Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 18:35:49 +0900 From: takahiro kawaguchi <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] hola To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: takahiro kawaguchi <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=EVHNEKUNau5dX1yFUH+l4QqNi5eOrNR7ZwCP/4GBYTE7omQPQ2b19LHeBgfVYXv6obfqZ3Ju1AUxD8HgswxfXaaC9+7JGGWLjft11+ZnR1KjUC7a6kYtBPWfPtqipOSIxrDniNqei4dM6AgQSKQuTS1GML0HSmXu914HASSwJa8= X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx hallo friends. I newly made the homepage. The sample of some sounds is set up there. If you check it, I might be very happy. And, to be going to keep taking contacting with you in the future, I made these.... thanks all the bests. check my web site http://www.eonet.ne.jp/~rere/ blog http://port.jugem.cc/ rere/takahiro kawaguchi e-mail xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Jan 11 09:32:27 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33737-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.114]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 04:32:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 11 Jan 2005 04:32:27 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 53965 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 11 Jan 2005 09:32:27 +0000 Received: (qmail 53954 invoked from network); Tue, 11 Jan 2005 09:32:27 +0000 Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 18:32:22 +0900 From: takahiro kawaguchi <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] hallo friends. 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I newly made the homepage. The sample of some sounds is set up there. If you check it, I might be very happy. And, to be going to keep taking contacting with you in the future, I made these.... thanks all the bests. check my web site http://www.eonet.ne.jp/〜rere/ rere/takahiro kawaguchi e-mail xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? 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Mon Jan 10 22:32:43 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33733-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.81]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 17:32:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 10 Jan 2005 17:32:43 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 22583 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 10 Jan 2005 22:32:36 +0000 Received: (qmail 22551 invoked from network); Mon, 10 Jan 2005 22:32:35 +0000 Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 23:36:49 +0000 From: xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx Subject: Re: [microsound] Completion of my first album In-reply-to: <xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> To: bil bo <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx>, microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.12a) Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_yXEA0hnMA1hRg+aJAe7sXA)" Priority: normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Provags-ID: kundenserver.de xxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xx auth:71925b1d09fec6f868aea9cb75dd0fbe X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <BE058EEB.40EF%xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_yXEA0hnMA1hRg+aJAe7sXA) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > >> if i was moderator , he would be banned maybe you should be the "moderator" but then i would be the first to be off the list > > > "He who is without sin among you, let him be the first to throw a > >stone. what kind of sin do you speak of? On 8 Jan 2005 at 21:52, bil bo wrote: > surely any possible negative reprecussions of such a message would affect > no-one in the group other than myself? > > im truely sorry if i upset anyone though.. > > >From: precursor <xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> > >Reply-To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> > >To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> > >Subject: Re: [microsound] Completion of my first album > >Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2005 13:21:47 -0500 > > > >on 1/8/05 12:48 PM, tkrakowiak at xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx wrote: > > > > > On Sat, 08 Jan 2005 10:47:36 -0500, precursor <xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> > > > wrote: > > > > > >> on 1/8/05 9:21 AM, visa k. at xxxx.xxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx wrote: > > >> > > >>> Dude, develope some discretion. > > >>> > > >>> Obtuse as hell to ask that on a public mailing list. > > >>> > > >>> ~visa > > >>> > > >>> ----- Original Message ----- > > >>> From: "bil bo" <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> > > >>> > > >>>> any idea where i could download a hacked copy of metaphysical > > >>>> function/electronic instruments 2? > > >>>> also, if anyone could help me find a hacked max/msp for the pc i > >would > > >>>> be > > >>>> extremely greatful. > > >>>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > >>> For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > >>> website: http://www.microsound.org > > >>> > > >> > > >> if i was moderator , he would be banned > > >> > > > > > > "He who is without sin among you, let him be the first to throw a > >stone.." > > > > > > >stone?? umm, ain't that cruel.. > > > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > >For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > >website: http://www.microsound.org > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > --Boundary_(ID_yXEA0hnMA1hRg+aJAe7sXA)-- From ???@??? Mon Jan 10 22:33:36 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33735-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 17:33:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 10 Jan 2005 17:33:36 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 25081 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 10 Jan 2005 22:33:34 +0000 Received: (qmail 25071 invoked from network); Mon, 10 Jan 2005 22:33:34 +0000 Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 17:37:25 -0500 From: graham miller <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] reaktor 4 emsembles? To: Microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73C-SYMPA (Macintosh; U; PPC) Content-type: text/plain; x-mac-creator=4D4F5353; x-mac-type=54455854; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en,fr-CA Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx wondering if there are any other websites that host downloadable user made reaktor 4 ensembles aside from the official site? i've thoroughly pillaged the official user library and i'm hungry for more... best, g. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Jan 10 22:37:06 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33736-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 17:37:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 10 Jan 2005 17:37:06 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 28932 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 10 Jan 2005 22:37:05 +0000 Received: (qmail 28922 invoked from network); Mon, 10 Jan 2005 22:37:05 +0000 Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 17:36:54 -0500 From: precursor <xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] reaktor 4 emsembles? In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BE086DB6.412B%xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.0.6 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx on 1/10/05 5:37 PM, graham miller at xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx wrote: > wondering if there are any other websites that host downloadable user > made reaktor 4 ensembles aside from the official site? i've thoroughly > pillaged the official user library and i'm hungry for more... > > best, > > g. > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > heres a few :) http://tinyurl.com/4rgus http://tinyurl.com/3qpjw http://tinyurl.com/44nmk http://www.semaforte.com/reaktor/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Jan 10 22:33:16 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33734-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 17:33:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 10 Jan 2005 17:33:16 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 24016 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 10 Jan 2005 22:33:14 +0000 Received: (qmail 24006 invoked from network); Mon, 10 Jan 2005 22:33:14 +0000 Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 14:33:20 -0800 From: "b.phenix" <xx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] life is random. To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.618) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx perhaps Xenakis and Cage have been playing on the iPods a lot over at 1 Infinity Loop. http://www.macitynet.it/english/aA20182/index.shtml reportedly banners from the setup at macworld. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Jan 10 19:04:46 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33732-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 14:04:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 10 Jan 2005 14:04:46 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 3640 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 10 Jan 2005 19:04:43 +0000 Received: (qmail 3630 invoked from network); Mon, 10 Jan 2005 19:04:43 +0000 Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 11:04:40 -0800 (PST) From: brian <xxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] 1.13.04 Peter Brotzman/Fred Lonberg-holm performance Chicago In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx.xx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_hdFB7Futp7+WpF0vMQT1YA)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm Comment: DomainKeys? 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January 13th, 2004 7pm door Peter Brotzman / Fred Lonberg-Holm duo Jim Baker / Michael Zerang duo Rob Drinkwater / Jason Soliday / Brian Labycz trio Dragons 1976 $7 Heaven Gallery 1550 N Milwaukee 2nd floor Chicago, IL info: xxxxx@xxxxx.xx or 773-342-4597 Thank you, b.labycz --Boundary_(ID_hdFB7Futp7+WpF0vMQT1YA)-- From ???@??? 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THANK YOU! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- framework - phonography/field recording; contextual and decontextualized sound activity presented by patrick mcginley hi all - welcome to the first framework playlist of 2005. this is essentially just a quick note to apologise to those of you who may have tuned in to catch the repeat of the framework:focus edition featuring jeph jerman on the 22nd of december. it has been brought to my attention that the wrong edition was aired (although hopefully you enjoyed having another chance to catch the chris watson show!), but to make it up to you, we will be repeating the jerman edition at a special time this friday: framework:focus featuring the work of jeph jerman, will be repeated this friday, the 14th of january, at 4:30pm gmt (check the time zone converter above for local times). friday is also the date of our first live broadcast of 2005, at its normal time of 8:30pm gmt. our last two shows, in the 24th and the 31st on december, respectively, featured repeats of some special features we had over 2004, mostly live on-air performances, and a few framework exclusive compositions. more details, and originally airing dates, below. again, we are always looking for material for the show, whether raw field recordings, field recording based composition or introduction submissions. send material, released or not, on any format, to the address below. we are also hoping to have live performances as often as possible, so if you are in or passing through london please get in touch! framework 31 nevill road london n16 8sl uk xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 24.12.04 artist / title / original broadcast date framework intro / adam wimbush an intro featuring the cooling cracks of a gas heater xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx.xx marc behrens / architectural commentary 5 (some models for resonant behaviour) / 29.10.04 composed exclusively for framework using sounds from the resonancefm studios http://www.mbehrens.com murmer / - / 20.02.04 untitled piece using original recordings made by william english and broadcast in the clearspot on the same day xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx michael northam/loren chasse / live on framework / 09.07.04 live performance using a collection of recordings, objects, and the entire contents of the resonancefm studio http://preg.org/~mnortham/, http://www.kaon.org/loren_chasse -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 31.12.04 artist / title / original broadcast date adam wimbush / framework intro intro recorded in a boatyard on blakeney quay, norwich xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx.xx justin bennett / cacerolada / 05.03.04 anti-war demo recordings, then unreleased, used at material for achim wollscheid's live performance http://www.bmbcon.demon.nl/justin achim wollscheid / live on framework / 05.03.04 live performance manipulating bennett's demo recordings http://www.selektion.com keith berry / live on framework / 06.02.04 on-air performance featuring material from his now-released cd buddha's mile http://www.inbetweensilence.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- framework intro submissions: 1) take yourself and an audio recording device to a location of your choice 2) record for AT LEAST 1 minute before you - 3) read the following text: welcome to framework. framework is a show consecrated to field recording, and it's use in composition. field recording, phonography, the art of sound-hunting; open your ears and listen! 4) continue your recording for AT LEAST 2 minutes after you've finish speaking 5) send the recording on any format to the address above, or as an mp3 via email thanks! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- the framework 2003 cd has been reprinted and is now once again available directly from the resonancefm online shop, along with a selection of other benefit cds, t-shirts, and general paraphernalia. drop in here to have a look: http://www.resonancefm.com/shop.php framework 2003 resonancefm benefit cd featuring highlights from the year's broadcasting rob grant & melanie clifford / framework intro thomas dimuzio / unearth & lift and spear / sonicism / rrrecords chris watson / river mara at night / stepping into the dark / touch johannes helden / - / sketchbook / trente oiseaux toy bizarre / - / kdi dctb 116 / absurd murmer / liquid solid / definition / absurd jgrzinich & seth nehil / the distant edge / confluence / intransitive seth nehil & jgrzinich / the mirrored corner / stria / erewhon annette lissauer / framework intro toby paddock / air, surface and magnetic vibrations / - / - steve roden / - / resonant cities / trente oiseaux francisco lopez / untitled #101 / untitled (2000) / ignis projekt mnortham / ancient sewer pipe, valletta, malta / phonography.org 5 / phonography.org the quiet american / donkey trains leaving marpha, nepal / phonography.org 4 / phonography.org steve barsotti / trainyard presence / phonography.org 5 / phonography.org k. m. krebs / jericho sailing center (nautical gamelan) / phonography.org 4 / phonography.org david daniell / highway 371, forty miles south of farmington, january 19, 1998, 2:25 pm / sem / antiopic joyce hinterding / - / spectral / antiopic/sigma editions david daniell / dixon lake road, july 31, 1999, 5:45 am / sem / antiopic tacet ncv / live on framework jean-luc guionnet & bertrand denzler / live on framework dallas simpson / framework intro --Boundary_(ID_8peOAY6Y7Nol+Q9FfKx9nA)-- From ???@??? Mon Jan 10 14:33:12 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33730-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 09:33:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 10 Jan 2005 09:33:12 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 89333 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 10 Jan 2005 14:33:07 +0000 Received: (qmail 89323 invoked from network); Mon, 10 Jan 2005 14:33:06 +0000 Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 22:32:52 +0800 From: "xxxx@xxxxx.xxx" <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] tsunami songs In-reply-to: <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx.xx Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7.1 (Windows/20040626) X-Enigmail-Version: 0.85.0.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <BE04321A.4DB1%xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx.xx> <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx hey whats the weather up there like at the moment..heading up to bangkok on weds from kl. any recommendations for things going on there over the next week? or should i just head strainght for a beach ? { brad brace } wrote: >fortunately I'm in a little squid-fishing village on the >Gulf of Thailand... > >imagine full distorted Pali chants from loudspeakers mounted >on scaffolding above piles of gravel made by women sitting >atop, with little hammers... > >soon to be heard on BBS > >take care all > >"Nothing can be said about the sea." > -- Mr Selvam, Akkrapattai, India 2004 > > >--- bbs: brad brace sound --- >--- http://63.170.215.11:8000 >--- > > >The 12hr-ISBN-JPEG Project >>>> posted since 1994 <<<< > "... easily the most venerable net-art project of all time." > >+ + + serial ftp://ftp.eskimo.com/u/b/bbrace >+ + + eccentric ftp:// (your-site-here!) >+ + + continuous hotline://artlyin.ftr.va.com.au >+ + + hypermodern ftp://ftp.rdrop.com/pub/users/bbrace >+ + + imagery ftp://bjornmag:xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx/12hr/ > >News: alt.binaries.pictures.12hr alt.binaries.pictures.misc > alt.binaries.pictures.fine-art.misc alt.12hr > >. 12hr email >subscriptions => http://bbrace.laughingsquid.net/buy-into.html > > >. Other | Mirror: http://www.eskimo.com/~bbrace/bbrace.html >Projects | Reverse Solidus: http://bbrace.laughingsquid.net/ > | http://bbrace.net > > * http://www.bloglines.com/blog/bbrace > * http://bbrace.laughingsquid.net/wordpress/ > >{ brad brace } <<<<< xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx >>>> ~finger for pgp > > > > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >website: http://www.microsound.org > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Jan 10 09:00:00 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33729-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 04:00:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 10 Jan 2005 04:00:00 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 45804 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 10 Jan 2005 09:00:01 +0000 Received: (qmail 45794 invoked from network); Mon, 10 Jan 2005 09:00:01 +0000 Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 04:05:39 -0500 From: david turgeon <xx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Re: [ot] code 46 | city of the future In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-Sender: xx@xxx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <x.x.x.xx.x.xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >regardless of what critics say of the storyline and characters, this is >without a doubt one of the slickest, most realistic, beautifully shot, >original, coherent and cohesive, visions of the future i have ever >seen. since the subject is brought up, i'll chime in & say (michael winterbottom's) "code 46" is a great movie indeed. i had no problem with the storyline or the characters. i found that there is very much of a philip k dick vibe to this film. the same vibe that filmic adaptations of proper philip k dick novels never even got close to, even "blade runner" (a good movie, but not very dickian). though we'll see if that changes when/if richard linklater's "a scanner darkly" comes out. at any rate, the futuristic atmosphere in "code 46" is very well rendered through simple touches and minimal effects that really do feel like the future -- the movie doesn't rely on the gadgets lesser directors think can pass as "SF". in this sense the movie also reminded me of "alphaville" or "farenheit 451" which convey their realism in a similarly low-key way. the mixture of languages spoken by the characters is another nice touch: it's artificial, arbitrary, & strangely plausible. i was impressed by the whole environment the characters lived in, which seemed very throughly thought out. it's a shame that the story begins to drag on during the second half but that's my only caveat about this film. & yep, nice music & sound design indeed. have a nice day ~ david --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Jan 10 08:55:13 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33728-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 03:55:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 10 Jan 2005 03:55:13 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 44147 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 10 Jan 2005 08:55:14 +0000 Received: (qmail 44137 invoked from network); Mon, 10 Jan 2005 08:55:14 +0000 Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 00:55:08 -0800 (PST) From: { brad brace } <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] tsunami songs In-reply-to: <BE04321A.4DB1%xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx.xx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <BE04321A.4DB1%xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx.xx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx fortunately I'm in a little squid-fishing village on the Gulf of Thailand... imagine full distorted Pali chants from loudspeakers mounted on scaffolding above piles of gravel made by women sitting atop, with little hammers... soon to be heard on BBS take care all "Nothing can be said about the sea." -- Mr Selvam, Akkrapattai, India 2004 --- bbs: brad brace sound --- --- http://63.170.215.11:8000 --- The 12hr-ISBN-JPEG Project >>>> posted since 1994 <<<< "... easily the most venerable net-art project of all time." + + + serial ftp://ftp.eskimo.com/u/b/bbrace + + + eccentric ftp:// (your-site-here!) + + + continuous hotline://artlyin.ftr.va.com.au + + + hypermodern ftp://ftp.rdrop.com/pub/users/bbrace + + + imagery ftp://bjornmag:xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx/12hr/ News: alt.binaries.pictures.12hr alt.binaries.pictures.misc alt.binaries.pictures.fine-art.misc alt.12hr .. 12hr email subscriptions => http://bbrace.laughingsquid.net/buy-into.html .. 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Mon Jan 10 08:19:22 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33727-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 03:19:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 10 Jan 2005 03:19:22 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 33297 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 10 Jan 2005 08:19:22 +0000 Received: (qmail 33287 invoked from network); Mon, 10 Jan 2005 08:19:21 +0000 Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 08:18:32 +0000 From: "David @ Audiobulb" <xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] new site and shuttle 358 remix mp3 To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <002a01c4f6ed$149ef3e0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 Content-type: text/plain; reply-type=original; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Hi Brad yes I enjoyed the material on your site and it is always great to hear shuttle material - good job :) best wishes David @ Audiobulb Records www.audiobulb.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "brad henrickson" <xxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: "'microsound'" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 6:12 AM Subject: RE: [microsound] new site and shuttle 358 remix mp3 > *bump* :) > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: andy graybeal [mailto:xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx] >> Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2005 12:44 PM >> To: microsound >> Subject: Re: [microsound] new site and shuttle 358 remix mp3 >> >> i love shuttle358 ;) thank you for this post ! >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> website: http://www.microsound.org >> > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Jan 10 06:13:22 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33726-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 01:13:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 10 Jan 2005 01:13:21 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 622 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 10 Jan 2005 06:13:20 +0000 Received: (qmail 611 invoked from network); Mon, 10 Jan 2005 06:13:19 +0000 Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 22:12:57 -0800 From: brad henrickson <xxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: RE: [microsound] new site and shuttle 358 remix mp3 In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> To: 'microsound' <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Thread-index: AcT2i+lnuzMkrTGpQQq7Dvi0JRopgAAT32uw Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Antivirus-Scanner: This message has been scanned by ClamAV / Web hosting by http://www.site5.com X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - voyager.site5.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - hyperreal.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - henrickson.org X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx *bump* :) > -----Original Message----- > From: andy graybeal [mailto:xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx] > Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2005 12:44 PM > To: microsound > Subject: Re: [microsound] new site and shuttle 358 remix mp3 > > i love shuttle358 ;) thank you for this post ! > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Jan 9 20:09:28 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33723-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.83]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 09 Jan 2005 15:09:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 09 Jan 2005 15:09:28 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 48431 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 09 Jan 2005 20:09:24 +0000 Received: (qmail 48421 invoked from network); Sun, 09 Jan 2005 20:09:24 +0000 Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 21:09:30 +0000 From: Dennis McNulty <x@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] [ot] code 46 | city of the future In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-Originating-IP: 217.67.135.226 To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.2 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Hi Graham, I haven't seen code 46 yet, but this strikes a chord with me: > just simple devices, like recontexualizing settings, calling hong kong > baghdad or whatever, or shooting mexico city as if it's some futuristic > version of los angeles, is incredibly appealing and bathes these kinds > of imagined sci-fi worlds in a kind of realism and detail that CG or > plywood sets could never accomplish. the guggenheim becomes a shopping > mall food court... the petronas towers in kuala lumpur become condos... > and in the end, it's closer to way things will be, i think. A film where this approach really works is 'alphaville' by Godard. One of my favourite films ever. Paris in the early sixties becomes Alphaville : total noir dystopia. It goes even further than just the location. Behavioural stuff. Pretty simple but great. The use of music on the soundtrack is fantastic too: it frequently just cuts out when it would ordinarally crescendo. Swimming pool as a location for public exectution. I could go on!! d. ______________________________ http://dennismcnulty.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Jan 9 20:43:46 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33725-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.86]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 09 Jan 2005 15:43:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 09 Jan 2005 15:43:45 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 62749 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 09 Jan 2005 20:43:43 +0000 Received: (qmail 62731 invoked from network); Sun, 09 Jan 2005 20:43:42 +0000 Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 15:43:37 -0500 From: andy graybeal <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] new site and shuttle 358 remix mp3 In-reply-to: <003001c4f481$8109fb10$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> <003001c4f481$8109fb10$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx i love shuttle358 ;) thank you for this post ! --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Jan 9 20:27:59 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33724-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.110]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 09 Jan 2005 15:27:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 09 Jan 2005 15:27:58 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 56577 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 09 Jan 2005 20:27:55 +0000 Received: (qmail 56565 invoked from network); Sun, 09 Jan 2005 20:27:54 +0000 Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 22:31:30 +0200 From: "visa k." <xxxx.xxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Completion of my first album To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <005701c4f68a$33d540b0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 0501-1, 07.01.2005), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx From: "John Nowak" <xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> > People of your intelligence generally hang out here: > http://www.kvr-vst.com Now that's just totally uncalled-for. K-v-R is a very developer-centric, fun community and might I say much lighter on pretensions than for instance this mailing list here... From: "tkrakowiak" <xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> "He who is without sin among you, let him be the first to throw a stone.." This is just ridiculous. ~visa --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Jan 9 16:46:41 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33722-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 09 Jan 2005 11:46:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 09 Jan 2005 11:46:41 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 84231 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 09 Jan 2005 16:46:38 +0000 Received: (qmail 84218 invoked from network); Sun, 09 Jan 2005 16:46:38 +0000 Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 16:44:29 +0000 From: Andrew Shires <xxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] UPGRADE & AFTERLIFE: Cambridge, UK 11/1/05 @ CB2: =?UNKNOWN?Q?Pirand=E8lo_+?= support In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-Originating-IP: [193.128.4.68] To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxx.xx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: VM 7.18 under Emacs 21.1.1 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-VirusChecked: Checked X-Env-Sender: xxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Msg-Ref: server-13.tower-71.messagelabs.com!1105289194!2461763!1 X-StarScan-Version: 5.4.5; banners=-,-,- X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Pirandèlo's brief U.K. tour comes to CB2 Internet Cafe in Cambridge on Tuesday 11th. Here are some details. ----- UPGRADE & AFTERLIFE: PIRANDÈLO Pirandèlo + Ascoltare + Fuzzy Lights + bad timing + Harvest Time djs Pirandèlo is a collaboration begun in 2004 between computer/sound artists Mou, Lips!, live video artist Claudio Sinatti (who has worked with the likes of Fennesz) and the slide-based live visuals of Marita Cosma. The project's starting point is "cinematic synaesthesia" and narrative: Pirandelo's sound combines vocals, live environmental sounds and digital processes with an unusual lyrical sweetness. Visually, their aim is also to break out of the frame, synthesising photographic, digital and video imagery. (http://www.pirandelo.org) Ascoltare makes fine-grained and structured computer music encompassing acoustic manipulation, microsound and utilizing found sounds, irregular beats / scatter breaks, Raster Noton-inspired production, spoken word, de-quantized / chance-encounter music as well as melody. Featuring on the Wire Tapper 12 in December 2004, a 7" "Giving Set" is due out early in 2005 on Strange Lights. With live visuals from Steve's Evil Visuals. (http://www.ascoltare.co.uk) Fuzzy Lights are a guitar/violin/vocal-based Cambridge duo. (http://www.fuzzylights.com) Upgrade & Afterlife: regular nights of experimental & DIY & digital & guitar & electronic music in Cambridge, created by Bad Timing and Harvest Time. (http://www.upgradeandafterlife.co.uk) CB2 basement, 5-7 Norfolk St, Cambridge, CB1 2LD, UK. 8:30-12:00 Entry: £3 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Jan 9 02:12:27 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33721-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 21:12:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 08 Jan 2005 21:12:27 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 14283 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 09 Jan 2005 02:12:24 +0000 Received: (qmail 14272 invoked from network); Sun, 09 Jan 2005 02:12:23 +0000 Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2005 21:12:05 -0500 From: John Nowak <xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Completion of my first album In-reply-to: <xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx On Jan 8, 2005, at 4:52 PM, bil bo wrote: > surely any possible negative reprecussions of such a message would > affect no-one in the group other than myself? > > im truely sorry if i upset anyone though.. People of your intelligence generally hang out here: http://www.kvr-vst.com Hope it helps. - John --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Jan 8 23:09:37 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33720-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 18:09:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 08 Jan 2005 18:09:36 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 75957 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 08 Jan 2005 23:09:35 +0000 Received: (qmail 75946 invoked from network); Sat, 08 Jan 2005 23:09:35 +0000 Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2005 18:13:27 -0500 From: graham miller <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] [ot] code 46 | city of the future To: Microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73C-SYMPA (Macintosh; U; PPC) Content-type: text/plain; x-mac-creator=4D4F5353; x-mac-type=54455854; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en,fr-CA Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx regardless of what critics say of the storyline and characters, this is without a doubt one of the slickest, most realistic, beautifully shot, original, coherent and cohesive, visions of the future i have ever seen. what blade runner is to the colour black, this is to white. blown out, over exposed, concrete, stainless steel, neon, fluorescent subterranean daylight. endless atriums, kiosks, and 'have-a-nice-days.' it's as if the world were an airport, in the palmpilot of your hand. a flight from seattle to shanghai and back again takes less than a day and all the while there are still camels and peasants carrying loads of grain across the endless dessert, outcasts in the irradiated world of the outside. it's what happens when THX 1138 reaches the surface. it's what happens when there are no countries left, only cities. and if location scouts could get academy awards, this one would. i mention this because of a microsound project a while back regarding the city of the future sequence in the original solaris (for the record, i think the second one is also brilliant in it's own way, but i digress...). from what i remember the highway sequence was was simply shot in tokyo and edited together to make us believe that this was russia of the future. plus the sound effects... if anything, the whole code 46 aesthetic is this simple but brilliant idea taken to the next level. for tarkovsky, japan of 1972 may have been the future of russia, even with the japanese characters on signs and advertising... just simple devices, like recontexualizing settings, calling hong kong baghdad or whatever, or shooting mexico city as if it's some futuristic version of los angeles, is incredibly appealing and bathes these kinds of imagined sci-fi worlds in a kind of realism and detail that CG or plywood sets could never accomplish. the guggenheim becomes a shopping mall food court... the petronas towers in kuala lumpur become condos... and in the end, it's closer to way things will be, i think. anyway, go see it. the music kicks ass too:) g. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Jan 8 21:53:07 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33719-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 16:53:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 08 Jan 2005 16:53:07 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 58329 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 08 Jan 2005 21:53:04 +0000 Received: (qmail 58319 invoked from network); Sat, 08 Jan 2005 21:53:04 +0000 Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2005 21:52:45 +0000 From: bil bo <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Completion of my first album In-reply-to: <BE058EEB.40EF%xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-Originating-IP: [81.79.64.211] X-Sender: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Bcc: Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Originating-Email: [xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Jan 2005 21:53:01.0410 (UTC) FILETIME=[6C67EC20:01C4F5CC] surely any possible negative reprecussions of such a message would affect no-one in the group other than myself? im truely sorry if i upset anyone though.. >From: precursor <xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> >Reply-To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> >To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> >Subject: Re: [microsound] Completion of my first album >Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2005 13:21:47 -0500 > >on 1/8/05 12:48 PM, tkrakowiak at xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx wrote: > > > On Sat, 08 Jan 2005 10:47:36 -0500, precursor <xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> > > wrote: > > > >> on 1/8/05 9:21 AM, visa k. at xxxx.xxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx wrote: > >> > >>> Dude, develope some discretion. > >>> > >>> Obtuse as hell to ask that on a public mailing list. > >>> > >>> ~visa > >>> > >>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>> From: "bil bo" <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> > >>> > >>>> any idea where i could download a hacked copy of metaphysical > >>>> function/electronic instruments 2? > >>>> also, if anyone could help me find a hacked max/msp for the pc i >would > >>>> be > >>>> extremely greatful. > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > >>> For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > >>> website: http://www.microsound.org > >>> > >> > >> if i was moderator , he would be banned > >> > > > > "He who is without sin among you, let him be the first to throw a >stone.." > > > >stone?? umm, ain't that cruel.. > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >website: http://www.microsound.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Jan 8 18:21:53 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33718-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 13:21:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 08 Jan 2005 13:21:53 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 2875 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 08 Jan 2005 18:21:51 +0000 Received: (qmail 2865 invoked from network); Sat, 08 Jan 2005 18:21:50 +0000 Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2005 13:21:47 -0500 From: precursor <xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Completion of my first album In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BE058EEB.40EF%xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.0.6 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx on 1/8/05 12:48 PM, tkrakowiak at xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx wrote: > On Sat, 08 Jan 2005 10:47:36 -0500, precursor <xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> > wrote: > >> on 1/8/05 9:21 AM, visa k. at xxxx.xxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx wrote: >> >>> Dude, develope some discretion. >>> >>> Obtuse as hell to ask that on a public mailing list. >>> >>> ~visa >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "bil bo" <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> >>> >>>> any idea where i could download a hacked copy of metaphysical >>>> function/electronic instruments 2? >>>> also, if anyone could help me find a hacked max/msp for the pc i would >>>> be >>>> extremely greatful. >>>> >>> >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >>> For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >>> website: http://www.microsound.org >>> >> >> if i was moderator , he would be banned >> > > "He who is without sin among you, let him be the first to throw a stone.." > stone?? umm, ain't that cruel.. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Jan 8 17:46:11 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33717-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.81]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 12:46:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 08 Jan 2005 12:46:10 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 96003 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 08 Jan 2005 17:46:08 +0000 Received: (qmail 95993 invoked from network); Sat, 08 Jan 2005 17:46:08 +0000 Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2005 12:48:24 -0500 From: tkrakowiak <xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Completion of my first album In-reply-to: <BE056AC8.40E6%xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Opera M2/7.54 (FreeBSD, build 751) X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <BE056AC8.40E6%xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx On Sat, 08 Jan 2005 10:47:36 -0500, precursor <xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote: > on 1/8/05 9:21 AM, visa k. at xxxx.xxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx wrote: > >> Dude, develope some discretion. >> >> Obtuse as hell to ask that on a public mailing list. >> >> ~visa >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "bil bo" <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> >> >>> any idea where i could download a hacked copy of metaphysical >>> function/electronic instruments 2? >>> also, if anyone could help me find a hacked max/msp for the pc i would >>> be >>> extremely greatful. >>> >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> website: http://www.microsound.org >> > > if i was moderator , he would be banned > "He who is without sin among you, let him be the first to throw a stone.." --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Jan 8 15:47:43 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33716-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.110]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 10:47:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 08 Jan 2005 10:47:42 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 69330 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 08 Jan 2005 15:47:40 +0000 Received: (qmail 69320 invoked from network); Sat, 08 Jan 2005 15:47:40 +0000 Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2005 10:47:36 -0500 From: precursor <xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Completion of my first album In-reply-to: <004e01c4f58d$50895d70$xxxxxxxx@xxxxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BE056AC8.40E6%xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.0.6 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx on 1/8/05 9:21 AM, visa k. at xxxx.xxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx wrote: > Dude, develope some discretion. > > Obtuse as hell to ask that on a public mailing list. > > ~visa > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "bil bo" <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> > >> any idea where i could download a hacked copy of metaphysical >> function/electronic instruments 2? >> also, if anyone could help me find a hacked max/msp for the pc i would be >> extremely greatful. >> > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > if i was moderator , he would be banned --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Jan 8 14:17:28 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33715-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.109]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 09:17:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 08 Jan 2005 09:17:28 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 55271 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 08 Jan 2005 14:17:25 +0000 Received: (qmail 55261 invoked from network); Sat, 08 Jan 2005 14:17:25 +0000 Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2005 16:21:15 +0200 From: "visa k." <xxxx.xxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Completion of my first album To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <004e01c4f58d$50895d70$xxxxxxxx@xxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 0501-1, 07.01.2005), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Dude, develope some discretion. Obtuse as hell to ask that on a public mailing list. ~visa ----- Original Message ----- From: "bil bo" <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> > any idea where i could download a hacked copy of metaphysical > function/electronic instruments 2? > also, if anyone could help me find a hacked max/msp for the pc i would be > extremely greatful. > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Jan 8 13:21:50 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33714-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.86]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 08:21:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 08 Jan 2005 08:21:50 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 46517 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 08 Jan 2005 13:21:46 +0000 Received: (qmail 46507 invoked from network); Sat, 08 Jan 2005 13:21:45 +0000 Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2005 14:21:37 +0100 From: Davide Morelli <xxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] R: [microsound] Completion of my first album In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <KKEHKBKMENKGANGNKPPIGEOGCOAA.xxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx You may also want to check jMax, the free java implementation of Max: http://freesoftware.ircam.fr//index.php3 works both on linux and windows I would anyway reccomend PureData http://pure-data.sourceforge.net/ PS: this is my first post in the list, Greetings everybody! -----Messaggio originale----- Da: Anthony Saunders [mailto:xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx] Inviato: sabato 8 gennaio 2005 6.22 A: microsound Oggetto: Re: [microsound] Completion of my first album if you're not into paying for software, you should look at pure data, supercollider and linux. cycling74 is a small company that deserves your cash if you're gonna use max/msp. pure data aka pd is free. and underdocumented, but hey that's the trade off. a On Jan 7, 2005, at 10:18 PM, bil bo wrote: > any idea where i could download a hacked copy of metaphysical > function/electronic instruments 2? > also, if anyone could help me find a hacked max/msp for the pc i would > be extremely greatful. > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Jan 8 11:36:43 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33713-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 06:36:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 08 Jan 2005 06:36:43 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 31463 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 08 Jan 2005 11:36:38 +0000 Received: (qmail 31453 invoked from network); Sat, 08 Jan 2005 11:36:38 +0000 Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2005 12:36:36 +0100 From: "e.mtra_em" <x.xxxx_xx@xxxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] days in Paris To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <I9ZXL0$xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 1 (Highest) Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Sensitivity: 3 X-XaM3-API-Version: 4.1 (B27) X-type: 0 X-SenderIP: 62.211.145.53 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at libero.it serv4 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Hi Folks!...i will be in Paris from 15 to 18 of january ..is there anyone here that knows if some events will occur there those days? Thanks and regards to all of you Enrico :-) ____________________________________________________________ Libero ADSL: 3 mesi gratis e navighi a 1.2 Mega. E poi hai l'Adsl senza limiti a meno di 1 euro al giorno. Abbonati subito senza costi di attivazione su http://www.libero.it --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Jan 8 05:22:57 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33712-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.112]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 00:22:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 08 Jan 2005 00:22:47 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 50987 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 08 Jan 2005 05:21:48 +0000 Received: (qmail 50977 invoked from network); Sat, 08 Jan 2005 05:21:48 +0000 Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2005 00:21:42 -0500 From: Anthony Saunders <xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Completion of my first album In-reply-to: <xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx if you're not into paying for software, you should look at pure data, supercollider and linux. cycling74 is a small company that deserves your cash if you're gonna use max/msp. pure data aka pd is free. and underdocumented, but hey that's the trade off. a On Jan 7, 2005, at 10:18 PM, bil bo wrote: > any idea where i could download a hacked copy of metaphysical > function/electronic instruments 2? > also, if anyone could help me find a hacked max/msp for the pc i would > be extremely greatful. > >> From: xxxxxxx@xxx.xxx >> Reply-To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> >> To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> Subject: Re: [microsound] Completion of my first album >> Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 17:23:17 EST >> >> In a message dated 07/01/2005 22:20:49 GMT Standard Time, >> xxxx.xxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx writes: >> >> > Electronic Instruments 2. (Although, it was quite possible to rip >> the .ens >> > from the metaphysical function freebie NI offered earlier... I do >> think they >> > improved it for the commercial release, though). >> > >> >> all the parameters are controllable and theres a sample looper, >> none of >> these vfeatures were in the freebie >> >> >> >> >> >> "He who has rejected his demons badgers us to death with his angels" >> Henri Michaux >> >> www.alembic.me.uk >> > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Jan 8 03:19:08 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33711-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 07 Jan 2005 22:19:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 07 Jan 2005 22:19:08 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 21694 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 08 Jan 2005 03:19:07 +0000 Received: (qmail 21684 invoked from network); Sat, 08 Jan 2005 03:19:07 +0000 Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2005 03:18:48 +0000 From: bil bo <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Completion of my first album In-reply-to: <xx.xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> X-Originating-IP: [81.79.64.211] X-Sender: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Bcc: Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Originating-Email: [xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Jan 2005 03:19:03.0435 (UTC) FILETIME=[CDDE4DB0:01C4F530] any idea where i could download a hacked copy of metaphysical function/electronic instruments 2? also, if anyone could help me find a hacked max/msp for the pc i would be extremely greatful. >From: xxxxxxx@xxx.xxx >Reply-To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> >To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >Subject: Re: [microsound] Completion of my first album >Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 17:23:17 EST > >In a message dated 07/01/2005 22:20:49 GMT Standard Time, >xxxx.xxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx writes: > > > Electronic Instruments 2. (Although, it was quite possible to rip the >.ens > > from the metaphysical function freebie NI offered earlier... I do think >they > > improved it for the commercial release, though). > > > > all the parameters are controllable and theres a sample looper, none of >these vfeatures were in the freebie > > > > > >"He who has rejected his demons badgers us to death with his angels" >Henri Michaux > >www.alembic.me.uk > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Jan 7 22:20:28 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33709-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.81]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 07 Jan 2005 17:20:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 07 Jan 2005 17:20:28 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 23753 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 07 Jan 2005 22:20:26 +0000 Received: (qmail 23743 invoked from network); Fri, 07 Jan 2005 22:20:25 +0000 Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2005 00:24:24 +0200 From: "visa k." <xxxx.xxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Completion of my first album To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <001601c4f507$a5233260$xxxxxxxx@xxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 0501-1, 07.01.2005), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <BE046876.3129%xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > err...where is this 'metaphysical function' instrument of which you speak ? > > i had a look at the native instruments user library and can't seem to find > it. Electronic Instruments 2. (Although, it was quite possible to rip the .ens from the metaphysical function freebie NI offered earlier... I do think they improved it for the commercial release, though). ~visa --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Jan 7 22:23:26 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33710-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 07 Jan 2005 17:23:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 07 Jan 2005 17:23:26 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 25334 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 07 Jan 2005 22:23:24 +0000 Received: (qmail 25323 invoked from network); Fri, 07 Jan 2005 22:23:24 +0000 Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2005 17:23:17 -0500 (EST) From: xxxxxxx@xxx.xxx Subject: Re: [microsound] Completion of my first album To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xx.xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 8.0 for Windows sub 670 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_DcQGQS9MOE/rOD1Xkt5kPg)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_DcQGQS9MOE/rOD1Xkt5kPg) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 07/01/2005 22:20:49 GMT Standard Time, xxxx.xxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx writes: > Electronic Instruments 2. (Although, it was quite possible to rip the .ens > from the metaphysical function freebie NI offered earlier... I do think they > improved it for the commercial release, though). > all the parameters are controllable and theres a sample looper, none of these vfeatures were in the freebie "He who has rejected his demons badgers us to death with his angels" Henri Michaux www.alembic.me.uk --Boundary_(ID_DcQGQS9MOE/rOD1Xkt5kPg)-- From ???@??? Fri Jan 7 21:26:37 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33708-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.81]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 07 Jan 2005 16:26:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 07 Jan 2005 16:26:37 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 3711 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 07 Jan 2005 21:26:34 +0000 Received: (qmail 3701 invoked from network); Fri, 07 Jan 2005 21:26:34 +0000 Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2005 16:25:26 -0500 From: michael trommer <xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Completion of my first album In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BE046876.3129%xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > metaphysical function is pretty neat!!! err...where is this 'metaphysical function' instrument of which you speak ? i had a look at the native instruments user library and can't seem to find it. (...and i'm very curious). --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Jan 7 19:19:57 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33707-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 07 Jan 2005 14:19:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 07 Jan 2005 14:19:57 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 49458 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 07 Jan 2005 19:19:55 +0000 Received: (qmail 49447 invoked from network); Fri, 07 Jan 2005 19:19:54 +0000 Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2005 11:19:52 -0800 (PST) From: Matt Davignon <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] seeking musicians: DroneShift benefit 3/12 In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Hey everyone, I'm organizing another DroneShift show, this time as a benefit for 21 Grand's relocation. DroneShift is a music event that is built entirely out of extremely long notes and sound clusters, gradually shifting every few minutes and lasting for a few hours. This will be the second one, and I'm currently aiming for a 4 hour drone. I'm looking for folks who'd be interested in participating. The show will be at 21 Grand, which is in downtown Oakland, California. This is similar to the Sound/Shift (or the last 2 years of the Big Sur Experimental Music Festival), except 1) It's entirely focused on drone music - no soloing, no beats, no obvious melodies or grooves 2) It's shorter (not 2 days long) 3) I'd prefer to schedule musicians for several small shifts instead of single large ones, but I'm flexible on this 4) The schedule is divided in increments of 5 minutes Logistics: Ideally, I'd like for everyone who requires time to set up to be set up before the show. Exceptions can be made for folks playing only later in the event, but stage/PA space then is subject to availability. Since there will be a large number of musicians set up, please plan on bringing equipment that doesn't take up a lot of physical space. PA and tables are available, but likely to be in high demand, so if some people can bring their own it'll be extremely helpful. There will be 2 clocks visible from the stage, and each person will have a schedule marked in 5 minute intervals whether they're "on" or "off". Like Sound/Shift, you'll be playing with a constantly-changing pool of other musicians. I will try to maximize the number of musician/instrument combinations over the course of the event. I'd like to get 20 or 30 musicians involved. The total amount of playing time for each person depends on the total amount of participants, but I'm aiming for 30-40 minutes. Volunteers: I'd love it if someone could help out with the cd table or someone else to help me with stage management (setting people up with the PA, cue-ing musicians according the schedule, etc). If it's someone who's not playing, it'd be a good way to get free admission and a free CD from me. The show would be on March 12th or March 19th, depending on which night more musicians are available. (Update: we're definitely leaning towards 3/12.) Both nights are Saturdays, and I'm aiming for 7pm to 11pm. If interested, please send me: Name: Email: Instrument(s): Prefer 1 long shift or several short shifts?: Date, 3/12 or 3/19, or either?: Website (if applicable, for program): --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Jan 7 17:39:04 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33706-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.109]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 07 Jan 2005 12:39:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 07 Jan 2005 12:39:04 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 6874 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 07 Jan 2005 17:39:01 +0000 Received: (qmail 6864 invoked from network); Fri, 07 Jan 2005 17:39:01 +0000 Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2005 12:38:54 -0500 From: Michael North <xxxxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] [ot]streaming event:Reverie : noise city To: Microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <001101c4f4df$c23cdef0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6626 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reverie : noise city : a small space open : pieces for not buying 6:00 PM Ottawa/Canada time [GMT - 05:00] 17 pieces of electronics & percussion Info at http://reverie.aaeol.ca/map/index.html.... Stream at http://stream.aaeol.ca/stream.php?stream=michael mike_north http://www.front.bc.ca/details.p?record=1609 http://aaeol.ca/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Jan 7 15:23:23 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33705-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.110]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 07 Jan 2005 10:23:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 07 Jan 2005 10:23:23 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 40364 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 07 Jan 2005 15:23:17 +0000 Received: (qmail 40354 invoked from network); Fri, 07 Jan 2005 15:23:17 +0000 Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2005 10:23:13 -0500 From: Michael Greenwood <xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] my list To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.8 (Macintosh; U; PPC) Content-type: text/plain; x-mac-creator=4D4F5353; x-mac-type=54455854; charset=UTF-8 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Hello It wasn't a very micro year for me, in retrospect. No order: 1/ Oren Ambarchi-Grapes From the Estate CD and Triste LP 2/ T-Rex-The Slider 2CD re-issue 3/ The Kinks-Village Green Preservation Society 3CD re-issue 4/ "Les Yeux Sans Visage" on the big screen 5/ Sunn O)))-White2 2LP 6/ The Hank Snow Collection 2LP 7/ Blonde Redhead-Misery Is A Butterfly CD 8/ Bold! Daring! Shocking! True: A History of Exploitation Films, 1919-1959 by Eric Schaefer BOOK 9/ Panda Bear-Young Prayer CD 10/ Sugar Hill Gang VS Grandmaster Flash 3LP re-issue 11/ Goin' Down The Road DVD 12/ Toronto community radio (CKLN 88.1 and CIUT 89.5) getting better all the time Happy 2005! All the best, Michael --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Jan 7 12:29:05 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33703-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 07 Jan 2005 07:29:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 07 Jan 2005 07:29:05 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 94901 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 07 Jan 2005 12:29:02 +0000 Received: (qmail 94891 invoked from network); Fri, 07 Jan 2005 12:29:02 +0000 Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2005 12:28:27 +0000 From: sound no sound <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] soundnosound this Sunday!!!! X-Originating-IP: [203.164.53.110] X-Sender: xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Bcc: Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Originating-Email: [xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Jan 2005 12:29:00.0649 (UTC) FILETIME=[7753D590:01C4F4B4] Hello you... There is a strange thing going on around here, soundnosound, two months in a row?? Holy cow!! This month we’ve got a doozy for ya! NED COLLETTE - has been busy working away in Melbourne over the last few years as producer, writer, and leader of instrumental outfit City City City. As a solo artist he has worked his background in free-noise experimentalism into more simple folk song formats resulting in a live show which is both intimate and explosive. Think acoustic guitars making love to loop pedals, with more than a hint of driving kraut-psychedelia, and you’re on the right track. Compare it to Keiji Haino, Jim O’Rourke, Nick Drake and Can. HAPPY ADULTS - is the brainchild of local cretin Toby Baldwin. influenced by such diverse phenomena as radiation sickness and Devendra Banhart, Baldwin decided he required an excuse to vent his bile duct publicly. Consisting of anywhere upwards of zero members, the band itself is an amorphous and malleable entity. In other words, Baldwin is a lazy and bitter individual with a bent for crypto-fascist frothing and unlistenable frequency heaping. SEAWORTHY - are quiet, pastoral soundscapes of guitar, drums, piano, electronics and field recordings. Their music has previously been described as sounding like an instrumental Pavement jam produced by Eno with scuffed up melodies and lullaby drones. Their latest release is a three track live cd called Backwoods Architecture released on Steady Cam Records. After the musical / festive brilliance that was the last soundnosound, we could’ve just sat back and got fat, but we thought that was a little selfish, and there‘s way too much good shit out there that needs to be shared with all of you! So.... Make sure you take the time on Sunday 9th Jan to come down to the Landsdowne Hotel (Cnr City Rd and Broadway, Chippendale) and see yet another FREE soundnosound! It all happens from 5 til 9pm. For more info see our extravagant website.... www.members.optusnet.com.au/soundnosound See you there, samannamarksteve. _________________________________________________________________ Are you right for each other? Find out with our Love Calculator: http://fun.mobiledownloads.com.au/191191/index.wl?page=191191text --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Jan 7 12:31:29 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33704-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 07 Jan 2005 07:31:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 07 Jan 2005 07:31:29 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 96039 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 07 Jan 2005 12:31:26 +0000 Received: (qmail 96023 invoked from network); Fri, 07 Jan 2005 12:31:26 +0000 Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2005 12:33:31 +0100 From: Thanos Chrysakis <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx.xx> Subject: [microsound] FW: Hugh Davies obituary In-reply-to: <p06002004be042216f0fa@[158.223.90.188]> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BE04321A.4DB1%xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.0.3 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx ---------- > From: Ian Stonehouse <xxxxxxx@xxxx.xx.xx> > Reply-To: Ian Stonehouse <xxxxxxx@xxxx.xx.xx> > Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 11:28:35 +0000 > To: xxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx.xx > Subject: Hugh Davies obituary > > [EMS-NEWS] > > Hugh Davies obituary in The Independent today > > http://news.independent.co.uk/people/obituaries/story.jsp?story=598389 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Jan 7 10:55:51 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33702-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.110]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 07 Jan 2005 05:55:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 07 Jan 2005 05:55:50 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 71771 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 07 Jan 2005 10:55:10 +0000 Received: (qmail 71674 invoked from network); Fri, 07 Jan 2005 10:55:09 +0000 Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2005 10:52:18 +0100 From: douglas benford <xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxxxx.xx.xx> Subject: [microsound] London SPRAWL 9th Birthday w. =?iso-8859-1?Q?PIRAND=C8LO?= & more X-Sender: xxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xx.xx To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <a061104b5be040c4cfe99@[81.152.102.251]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_LvEIG6gZQs7K3sKhyAAuuQ)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_LvEIG6gZQs7K3sKhyAAuuQ) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit ================================ S P R A W L January 2005 bulletin ================================ HAPPY NEW YEAR SPRAWL at the Charterhouse Bar, London NINTH BIRTHDAY SPECIAL! yes, it's a bit of a celebration folks! DATE: Weds 12th January live sets by * PIRANDÈLO (mou-lips/List/italy) * KATZO (Countenance/japan) * J-LAB (uk) guest dj * o.acam (miso/deep burnt/scotland) plus resident djs + curators * si-cut.db (uk/bip hop/fallt/highpoint lowlife/tennis) * iris garrelfs (germany/bip hop) VENUE Upstairs at the Charterhouse bar 38 Charterhouse Street London EC1 tel: 020 7608 0858 email: xxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xx.xx http://www.charterhousebar.co.uk ADMISSION 4 pounds, concs. 3 pounds 7.30pm - 11.30pm ================================ PAST ARTISTS AT SPRAWL OVER THE NINE YEARS: http://www.sprawl.org.uk/PastFrame.html ================================ Next Sprawls this year: * INTERPLAY 3. Interplay is back, next month, & a hell of a line-up! Weds 9th Feb POLE (scape/mute) + DEADBEAT (scape/Intr_version) MARKUS SCHMICKLER (pluramon) + THOMAS LEHN (mimeo) MAX EASTLEY (obscure/bip hop) + FREEFORM (skam/sub rosa) Thurs 10th Feb STEPHAN MATHIEU (orthlorng/sirr) + SI-CUT.DB (fallt/bip-hop) LEAFCUTTER JOHN (planet mu) + JANEK SCHAEFER (audiOh!/sirr) SCANNER (sub rosa/bette) + IRIS GARRELFS (bip hop) plus graphic work by D-Fuse VENUE: The Spitz, Spitalfields Market, 109 Commercial Street, London E1 8BG http://www.spitz.co.uk/ 8pm - midnight PRICE: £8 / £6 concs, £12 for both nights BOX OFFICE: 020 7392 9032 ONLINE BOOKING: http://www.wegottickets.com This project is supported by the Goethe-Institut, London and the PRS Foundation * Sprawl March 9th: Tuner (Fr), The Bohman Brothers, Rashamon, e/n [no.signal] at http://www.charterhousebar.co.uk ================================ On the radio: Next Sprawl Small Pieces show: '9 years of sprawl - a retrospective with music and reminiscences' This Friday 7th January 12-1am. GMT Resonance FM 104.4 http://www.resonancefm.com [] some related artist activities ================================ si-cut.db, Iris Garrelfs - live sets ================================ JAN 14 SI-CUT.DB Bip_Hop night with DJ Philippe Petit Bern (Reset electronic), Switzerland JAN 15 SI-CUT.DB Bip_Hop night with DJ Philippe Petit Delemont (SAS), Switzerland JAN 25 SI-CUT.DB + Iris Garrelfs + Rashamon Freebutt, Brighton http://www.spiritofgravity.com FEB 10 SI-CUT.DB in collaboration with Stephan Mathieu IRIS GARRELFS in collaboration with Scanner INTERPLAY 2005, Spitz, London http://www.sprawl.org.uk ================================ si-cut.db / iris garrelfs - releases ================================ CURRENT SI-CUT.DB winter track 'snow at night', free to download, is on Looking Back Ain't No Way Forward [ Xmas Compilation 2004 ] on the highpointlowlife label http://www.highpointlowlife.com/downloads.shtml SI-CUT.DB remix of Pan/tone's 'Sans Adore' on Pan/tone double CD 'newfound urban calm' on Bip Hop [bleep 26/27] http://www.bip-hop.com RT-32 Acoustic.Space.Lab: Radio Astronomy DVD/CD with tracks constructed data from the VIRAC radio telescope by IRIS GARRELFS, TENNIS, SI-CUT.DB, scanner, kaffe matthews, rosy parlane + more http://acoustic.space.re-lab.net http://rixc.lv SI-CUT.DB 'Offices at Night Vol 1 - Originals' recordings from 1999-2001 on Fallt. mastered by Benge. Part 1 of a 3 CD/download set to be continued... http://www.fallt.com/offices/index.html si-cut.db back catalogue & rarities can be paid via paypal write to <xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxxxx.xx.xx> for full list. FUTURE TBA SI-CUT.DB: download track on www.thinnerism.com compilation. New album on Bip-Hop, mastered by Twerk, 'From Tears: Beach Archive'. IRIS GARRELFS: debut album due on Bip Hop TBA ================================ TENNIS (si-cut.db + benge) ================================ OUT NOW: RT-32 Acoustic.Space.Lab : Radio Astronomy CD/DVD see above. Upcoming tracks for Bip Hop generaton v.8 CD, and and the Tribryd unMix CD project, all TBA ALSO: original 1st Tennis album Wooden Sweets still available, info <xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxxxx.xx.xx> SPRAWL WEBSITE ================================ http://www.sprawl.org.uk ++ Sprawl events plus EXCLUSIVELY thru' our website only release mail order of SPRAWL IMPRINT, SUBURBS OF HELL & PANTUNES classic 'retronica' catalogue. Paypal available. http://www.sprawl.org.uk/LabelFrame.html http://www.sprawl.org.uk/VaultFrame.html (in collaboration with dfuse) best wishes ================================ Iris Garrelfs [BitTonic] http://www.irisgarrelfs.com http://www.dfuse.com/BitTonic http://www.dfuse.com/iris si-cut.db [d.benford] http://home.earthlink.net/~efrans/benford http://www.bip-hop.com/ http://www.highpointlowlife.com http://www.fallt.com http://www.background-records.de SPRAWL http://www.sprawl.org.uk E-MAIL <xxxxxx@xxxxx.xxxxx.xx.xx> --Boundary_(ID_LvEIG6gZQs7K3sKhyAAuuQ)-- From ???@??? Fri Jan 7 07:00:28 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33701-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 07 Jan 2005 02:00:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 07 Jan 2005 02:00:27 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 14632 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 07 Jan 2005 07:00:22 +0000 Received: (qmail 14621 invoked from network); Fri, 07 Jan 2005 07:00:22 +0000 Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2005 23:00:17 -0800 (PST) From: Cordell Klier <xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] 'Brainwave' cap controls computer In-reply-to: <003001c4f481$8109fb10$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=PIHb/UqKGjVEe+kcRY7iRb/k4gb1ku1kvpooztdiDMTZx/A3aIf00egVZS8qdAcoY5YbSrHkzkfsT+RVo4l6UHkWkA/CpSrTEz6YlO1Fv6yaQMC97zirwDC67CfUAGeQFCG4a/olFoly6N3fLNvGmxqkdsAl3A6LPiWr46YYL7A= ; X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx hi.. found this fun to hear about. nabbed this from the big igloo list on also on & thought you guys might enjoy this..?..??.. Cordell From: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/4074869.stm via: http://www.gyre.org/news/Neurotechnology 'Brainwave' cap controls computer The cursor movements were recorded: blue is slowest, and red fastest A team of US researchers has shown that controlling devices with the brain is a step closer. Four people, two of them partly paralysed wheelchair users, successfully moved a computer cursor while wearing a cap with 64 electrodes. Previous research has shown that monkeys can control a computer with electrodes implanted into their brain. The New York team reported their findings in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences. "The results show that people can learn to use scalp-recorded electroencephalogram rhythms to control rapid and accurate movement of a cursor in two directions," said Jonathan Wolpaw and Dennis McFarlane. The research team, from New York State Department of Health and State University of New York in Albany, said the research was another step towards people controlling wheelchairs or other electronic devices by thought. Wadsworth Center Laboratory of Nervous System Disorders wolpaw@ wadsworth.org Thinking cap The four people faced a large video screen wearing a special cap which meant no surgery or implantation was needed. A non-invasive brain control interface could support clinically useful operation of a robotic arm, a motorised wheelchair or a neuroprosthesis Jonathan Wolpaw and Dennis McFarlane, State University of New York Brain activity produces electrical signals that can be read by electrodes. Complex algorithms then translate those signals into instructions to direct the computer. Such brain activity does not require the use of any nerves or muscles, so people with stroke or spinal cord injuries could use the cap effectively. "The impressive non-invasive multidimensional control achieved in the present study suggests that a non-invasive brain control interface could support clinically useful operation of a robotic arm, a motorised wheelchair or a neuroprosthesis," said the researchers. The four volunteers also showed that they could get better at controlling the cursor the more times they tried. Although the two partially-paralysed people performed better overall, the researchers said this could be because their brains were more used to adapting or that they were simply more motivated. It is not the first time researchers have had this sort of success in brain-control experiments. Some teams have used eye motion and other recording techniques. Earlier this year, a team at the MIT Media Labs Europe demonstrated a wireless cap which read brain waves to control a computer game character. +++ Official Press Release: http://www.health.state.ny.us/press/releases/2004/wolpaw_release_12-06-2004.htm Communication Option for the Severely Disabled Improves Health Department Researchers Show Their Non-Invasive Brain-Computer Interface Offers More Control than Once Thought ALBANY, NY, December 6, 2004 - A brain-computer interface (BCI) that translates electrical signals detected from the scalp into a user's commands offers comparable precision, speed and accuracy to systems that rely on electrodes surgically implanted in the brain, researchers at the Department of Health's Wadsworth Center laboratories have shown. It has been widely assumed that only invasive devices could control complex movements, such as operating a word processing program or a motorized wheelchair by thought alone. Jonathan Wolpaw, M.D., and Dennis McFarland, Ph.D., published their findings online in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences the week of December 6, 2004. The paper will appear in the journal's December 21, 2004, print edition. Dr. Wolpaw's laboratory pioneered BCI technology. BCIs provide an alternative communication and control option for the severely disabled, such as individuals with Lou Gehrig's disease, brain and spinal injuries, cerebral palsy and other neurodegenerative diseases. The brain's electrical output is translated by a computer into physical outputs, such as moving a cursor on a computer screen. In the Wadsworth system, users wear an electrode cap that detects electroencephalographic (EEG) activity from the scalp and records specific brain waves. An adaptive algorithm analyzes the output and focuses on the signals that provide people greatest control as they learn to use their thoughts to direct a cursor to a target on a computer screen. As the trainee improves, the algorithm adapts anew. "Thanks to medical technology, people paralyzed by brain injuries or disorders are living longer. Brain-computer interface technology promises to improve their quality of life by offering a new chance to communicate and control their lives," said Commissioner of Health Antonia C. Novello, M.D., M.P.H., Dr.P.H. In the newly published study, able-bodied and spinal cord-injured individuals who were trained in Dr. Wolpaw's lab achieved real-time, two-dimensional cursor control comparable to that reported in studies of non-human primates with implanted electrodes. Their marked improvement in the performance of a non-invasive BCI can be attributed to changes in the signal processing and to advances in the adaptive algorithm. The findings suggest that an EEG-based system, which does not require surgical implantation of electrodes in the brain, may be further improved and may eventually support such sophisticated tasks as operating a neuroprosthetic arm or having mouse-like control over a cursor. Dr. Wolpaw's research is supported by the National Institutes of Health and the James S. McDonnell Foundation. He is chief of Wadsworth Center's Laboratory of Nervous System Disorders and a professor in the University at Albany's School of Public Health. He also is a member of the New York State Spinal Cord Research Board. This board dispenses $8.5 million annually to scientists in New York and elsewhere for research aimed at curing and restoring function after spinal cord injuries. Biggs Laboratory -- (518) 474-2160 Post Office Address: Biggs Laboratory Wadsworth Center NYS Department of Health Empire State Plaza P.O. Box 509 Albany, New York 12201-0509 Ship To Address: Biggs Laboratory Wadsworth Center NYS Department of Health P1 South Dock J3 Empire State Plaza Albany, New York 12237 David Axelrod Institute -- (518) 473-3837 Post Office Address: David Axelrod Institute Wadsworth Center NYS Department of Health P.O. Box 22002 Albany, New York 12201-2002 Ship To Address: David Axelrod Institute Wadsworth Center NYS Department of Health 120 New Scotland Avenue Albany, New York 12208 Genomics Institute -- (518) 880-1300 Post Office Address: The Genomics Institute Wadsworth Center NYS Department of Health 465 Jordan Road Troy, New York 12180 Ship To Address: The Genomics Institute Wadsworth Center NYS Department of Health 465 Jordan Road Troy, New York 12180 Griffin Laboratory -- (518) 869-4500 Post Office Address: Griffin Laboratory Wadsworth Center NYS Department of Health Empire State Plaza P.O. 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Fri Jan 7 06:24:25 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33700-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.110]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 07 Jan 2005 01:24:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 07 Jan 2005 01:24:25 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 5582 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 07 Jan 2005 06:24:25 +0000 Received: (qmail 5572 invoked from network); Fri, 07 Jan 2005 06:24:24 +0000 Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2005 22:24:10 -0800 From: "j.frede" <xxxxxx@xxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] new site and shuttle 358 remix mp3 To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>, xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <003001c4f481$8109fb10$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 Content-type: text/plain; reply-type=original; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx hello all.... i hope this new year has found you well, for the new year i have rebuilt my site and i have two tracks for free download,,, one of which is a remix i was asked to do for shuttle 358 for a cd that ended up not happening. hope you enjoy. http://www.jfrede.com top 5 CDs 2004 1. Marc Behrens - Animistic (for Donatella) / amazing audio and beautiful packaging everyone should buy this (on aufabwegen) 2. Triosk meets Jan Jelinek - 1+3+1 3. Steve Roden & Jason Khan - Brombron 06 4. The Vegetable Orchestra - Automate 5. Kadet - Thin Air best DVD 1. Rivers and Tides - Andy Goldsworthy -- j.frede current location: los angeles http://www.jfrede.com out now. j.frede rewrites scanners diary - current recordings http://www.current-recordings.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Jan 7 02:55:17 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33699-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.113]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 06 Jan 2005 21:55:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 06 Jan 2005 21:55:16 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 41439 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 07 Jan 2005 02:55:13 +0000 Received: (qmail 41400 invoked from network); Fri, 07 Jan 2005 02:55:13 +0000 Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2005 03:55:09 +0100 (CET) From: Onda Sonora Radio <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] CONTENTS ONDA SONORA 05/01/05 To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_7441qqQEo+w05BzVMNFS9w)" Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_7441qqQEo+w05BzVMNFS9w) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit ONDA SONORA, Madrid (ES) Radio Círculo de Bellas Artes 100.4 FM - Miércoles/Wednesday 15h - www.circulobellasartes.com Radio Autónoma 88.8 FM - Mar-Jue/Tue-Thu 16h - www.uam.es/ra Escucha en directo a cualquier hora / Listen live real time - www.ondasonoraradio.com _________________________________ CONTENTS ONDA SONORA 05/01/05 01. DAVID JACKMAN Track: Edge Of Nothing Album: Edge Of Nothing Label: Die Stadt Comenzamos el programa de esta semana con las últimas novedades del sello alemán Die Stadt, inmerso en la reedición de varios trabajos a cargo de David Jackman, compositor y artista visual nacido en el Reino Unido y activo desde finales de los 60 con su primer proyecto, The Scratch Orchestra -junto a Cornelius Cardew, Brian Eno y los miembros del combo de improvisación AMM, entre otros- y posteriormente en solitario con su proyecto Organum, en el que han colaborado por ejemplo Jim O'Rourke, Christoph Heemann (de H.N.A.S.), y Steven Stapleton (de NWW) entre muchos otros grandes nombres. Vamos a escuchar "Edge Of Nothing", un trabajo editado originalmente en 1983 que ahora reedita Die Stadt We begin this week with some news from the German label Die Stadt, immersed in the reissue of several works by David Jackman, composer and visual artist that was born in the United Kingdom and is musically active from the end of the 60s with his first project, The Scratch Orchestra -together with Cornelius Cardew, Brian Eno and the members of the improvisation outfit AMM, among others- and later on with his solo project Organum, in which Jim O'Rourke, Christoph Heemann (of H.N.A.S.), and Steven Stapleton (of N.W.W.) among many other big names have collaborated. "Edge Of Nothing" was originally released in 1983 02. ORGANUM Track: Wolf Album: Vacant Lights / Rara Avis Label: Die Stadt 03. ORGANUM Track: Vacant Lights Pt 1 Album: Vacant Lights / Rara Avis Label: Die Stadt Reediciones de material a cargo de David Jackman y su proyecto Organum. Sonaron consecutivamente cortes de "Rara Avis" y "Vacant Lights", dos trabajos clásicos de Organum retrabajados por Jackman para esta nueva edición en Die Stadt Reissues of David Jackman's Organum project. "Rara Avis" and "Vacant Lights" are two classic works of Organum reworked by Jackman for this new edition in Die Stadt 04. WILLIAM BASINSKI Track: Part 2 Album: Variations: A Movement In Chrome Primitive 2CD Label: Die Stadt / Durtro Otra de las novedades de la compañía alemana en colaboración con el sello Durtro de David Tibet, un doble cd a cargo del compositor estadounidense William Basinski que contiene sus primeras investigaciones con piano y cinta, de principios de los años 80: "Variations: A Movement In Chrome Primitive" Another novelty from the German company along with David Tibet's Durtro label , a double cd by the American composer William Basinski, containing his first investigations with piano and tape, from the beginning of the 80's: "Variations: A Movement In Chrome Primitive" 05. AIV Track: Untitled_Track_02 Album: Authentic & Vague: Images Label: Audiot Nos trasladamos a Riga, en Letonia, con un nuevo sello llamado Audiot dedicado a editar el trabajo de jóvenes diseñadores de sonido procedentes de la zona del Báltico. Escuchamos el proyecto AIV, de los bielorrusos Ilya Andreyev y Anton Sorokin, una propuesta ambiental de matices ruidistas cuyos autores recomiendan escuchar con auriculares: "Authentic & Vague: Images" We move to Riga, in Latvia, with the new Audiot label, dedicated to release the work of young sound designers coming from the Baltic area. This is the AIV project, by the Belarussians Ilya Andreyev and Anton Sorokin, an environmental proposal of noisy shades whose authors recommend to listen to with headphones: "Authentic & Vague: Images" 06. CRITIKAL Track: 2 Album: State Label: Nexsound / Zeromoon Continuamos en el este europeo de la mano ahora de Andrey Kiritchenko y su sello Nexsound, creado con el objetivo principal de promocionar la escena experimental ukraniana, aunque abierto a todo tipo de proyectos como el que suena: Critikal, la colaboración entre el propio Andrey Kiritchenko, el norteamericano Jeff Surak (director del sello Zeromoon) y el sueco Jonas Lindgren (fundador de Musique:Motpol Records), una combinación de texturas electrónicas e improvisación acústica repleta de detalles We continue in European East by the hand of Andrey Kiritchenko and his Nexsound label, created with the main objective of promoting the experimental Ukranian scene, although it is open to all kind of projects like this one, Critikal, the collaboration between Andrey Kiritchenko himself, the North American Jeff Surak (director of the Zeromoon label) and the Swedish Jonas Lindgren (founder of Musique:Motpol Records), a combination of electronic textures and acoustic improvisations full of details 07. PROPERGOL Y COLARGOL Track: No Particular Destination Album: Charly Roger. Songs For Fuzzycandy LP Label: Autres Directions In Music Hace unas semanas escuchábamos lo último de Autres Directions in Music, desde Nantes, el recopilatorio "The Noise & The City" en el que cabían hasta 30 artistas; en aquella ocasión escuchamos a Sogar, aunque entre los presentes se encontraba este dúo de Brest, en Francia, que suena ahora con su nuevo disco para Autres Directions In Music: "Charly Roger. Songs For Fuzzycandy lp": Se trata de Propergol y Colargol Some weeks ago we listened to the last release of Autres Directions in Music, from Nantes, the compilation "The Noise & The City", in which they fit up to 30 artists; in that occasion we listened to Sogar, though among the present it was this duet from Brest, in France, that comes now with their new record for Autres Directions In Music: "Charly Roger. Songs For Fuzzycandy lp": Propergol y Colargol 08. GREG HEADLEY Track: To Drink Up The Sea Album: It Can Leave, It Must Leave Label: 28 Angles Greg Headley es un guitarrista experimental y músico electrónico de California que reconoce la influencia en su trabajo del escritor irlandés James Joyce, en especial de su "Ulises". "It Can Leave, It Must Leave" se ha publicado en el sello californiano 28 Angles Greg Headley is an experimental guitarist and electronic musician from California that acknowledges the influence on his work of the Irish writer James Joyce, specially his "Ulysses". "It Can Leave, It Must Leave" has been released in the Californian label 28 Angles 09. MIMEO Track: 6 Album: Lifting Concrete Lightly Label: Serpentine Gallery Hoy cerramos la sesión de esta semana con la Music In Movement Electronic Orchestra (MIMEO) en directo desde la Serpentine Gallery de Londres el año pasado, un evento en el que participaron un total de 11 músicos entre los que encontramos a los británicos Phil Durrant, Kaffe Matthews y Keith Rowe, los alemanes Thomas Lehn y Markus Schmickler, los austríacos Christian Fennesz y Peter Rehberg, los holandeses Cor Fuhler y Gert-Jan Prins, el francés Jerôme Noettinger y el portugués Rafael Toral. Y así nos despedimos We close the session of this week with the Music In Movement Electronic Orchestra (MIMEO), live last year from the Serpentine Gallery in London, an event in which a total of 11 musicians took part, among who we find the British Phil Durrant, Kaffe Matthews and Keith Rowe, the German Thomas Lehn and Markus Schmickler, the Austrian Christian Fennesz and Peter Rehberg, the Dutch Cor Fuhler and Gert-Jan Prins, the French Jerôme Noettinger and the Portuguese Rafael Toral ______ Nota: Este mensaje no ha sido solicitado, pero consideramos que podría interesarte. De no ser así, responde con un mensaje titulado "borrame" y serás inmediatamente eliminado del mailing. Muchas gracias Note: This is an undemanded message, but we have considered it could be interesting for you. If that’s not the case, then reply us with this subject for the message: "delete me", and you will be inmediately out from the mailing. 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Thu Jan 6 22:20:13 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33698-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 06 Jan 2005 17:20:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 06 Jan 2005 17:20:12 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 27086 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 06 Jan 2005 22:20:08 +0000 Received: (qmail 27076 invoked from network); Thu, 06 Jan 2005 22:20:08 +0000 Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2005 14:20:05 -0800 (PST) From: bryan garcia <xxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Completion of my first album In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=NLoegYXXZOrIpqQ/2+ahaw23UrpUTUnO0Zqvf7bXBt5izOk5i0/DBBPv3mSLuIw1+j2w2VPDbIZhLjZAbsbItwti41pMDvEgnRQZheM1jUSI6baSdb793bmdtmAHeBIqjf8Kpb/dLpL2wj22SIojnpaDxARzVufDiaHdTsxbFBE= ; X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx nice job eric b. i didnt hear any rakim lyrics though/. i'm playing the files at work, and its freezing here too. nice mood and concrete. i'm curious as to what its done on as well. a few suggestions would be song titles perhaps, and possibly an artist alias, as there already exists one eric b. who jams, i might add. good work. bry. > nice music. it's going great with my green tea and > twilight snow fall > outside right now. the field recording are really > nice too... creepy and > cinematic. what's it done on? i've been doing a lot > of stuff like this > lately, just improvising live to harddrive using my > nord lead 3 to tweak > out some massive dark ambient textures... hardware > though... > > have you checked out the 'metaphysical function' > instrument in reaktor > instruments II? you'd dig. > > also i really like your website... > > all the best > > g. > > Eric b wrote: > > > You can download the entire project free > > at http://www.ericbollman.com > > > > Any feedback/thoughts regarding the compositions > or > > the mastering of the album would be GREATLY > > appreciated. 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Thu Jan 6 22:17:17 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33697-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 06 Jan 2005 17:17:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 06 Jan 2005 17:17:17 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 24309 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 06 Jan 2005 22:17:16 +0000 Received: (qmail 24297 invoked from network); Thu, 06 Jan 2005 22:17:15 +0000 Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2005 14:17:12 -0800 (PST) From: Eric b <xxxx_xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Completion of my first album In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=qO96vA2Yg16GL7GMXrBNWipzXwbBCmidLulrdafiYdiyb58RHRaW8msjS2eIB9DCztNFjWxWRHBMNjGALV9Gav3+Bdwlu5g10Ewy0EagaKnex+5uiM4z07lWYRkNhlbAkg6+N5xLJBN1/DzhUT5cgUhvGz2wuTV/KDBGqP0R79Q= ; X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx whoops! i apologize for the reply all slip --- Eric b <xxxx_xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> wrote: > hey graham, > > Thanks for the feedback. Most of it is done with a > reaktor and just an old MD recorder for the field > recordings. metaphysical function is pretty neat!!! > Thanks again for the mail. > > -eric > > --- graham miller <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> wrote: > > > nice music. it's going great with my green tea and > > twilight snow fall > > outside right now. the field recording are really > > nice too... creepy and > > cinematic. what's it done on? i've been doing a > lot > > of stuff like this > > lately, just improvising live to harddrive using > my > > nord lead 3 to tweak > > out some massive dark ambient textures... hardware > > though... > > > > have you checked out the 'metaphysical function' > > instrument in reaktor > > instruments II? you'd dig. > > > > also i really like your website... > > > > all the best > > > > g. > > > > Eric b wrote: > > > > > You can download the entire project free > > > at http://www.ericbollman.com > > > > > > Any feedback/thoughts regarding the compositions > > or > > > the mastering of the album would be GREATLY > > > appreciated. 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Thu Jan 6 22:03:23 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33696-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.114]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 06 Jan 2005 17:03:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 06 Jan 2005 17:03:22 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 14743 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 06 Jan 2005 22:03:21 +0000 Received: (qmail 14732 invoked from network); Thu, 06 Jan 2005 22:03:21 +0000 Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2005 14:03:17 -0800 (PST) From: Eric b <xxxx_xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Completion of my first album In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=3Hg1uq89kWH9Z/RznS13Th8+aojfQjaMzwHBqANDEpSArhSAOmxUejpcunsz78K1KDrbiHVUAr/Jw+7Huoi3sY4Matha8e4gas9xp5ey4cdDwlPtJ4VTMLBDy/7lnTfhEPL1SW7XmHu52fzV7eYsctd7BOO1rU/ZaTAFiiwB0YY= ; X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx hey graham, Thanks for the feedback. Most of it is done with a reaktor and just an old MD recorder for the field recordings. metaphysical function is pretty neat!!! Thanks again for the mail. -eric --- graham miller <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> wrote: > nice music. it's going great with my green tea and > twilight snow fall > outside right now. the field recording are really > nice too... creepy and > cinematic. what's it done on? i've been doing a lot > of stuff like this > lately, just improvising live to harddrive using my > nord lead 3 to tweak > out some massive dark ambient textures... hardware > though... > > have you checked out the 'metaphysical function' > instrument in reaktor > instruments II? you'd dig. > > also i really like your website... > > all the best > > g. > > Eric b wrote: > > > You can download the entire project free > > at http://www.ericbollman.com > > > > Any feedback/thoughts regarding the compositions > or > > the mastering of the album would be GREATLY > > appreciated. 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Thu Jan 6 21:25:03 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33695-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 06 Jan 2005 16:25:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 06 Jan 2005 16:25:03 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 91675 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 06 Jan 2005 21:24:54 +0000 Received: (qmail 91663 invoked from network); Thu, 06 Jan 2005 21:24:52 +0000 Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2005 16:28:33 -0500 From: graham miller <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Completion of my first album To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73C-SYMPA (Macintosh; U; PPC) Content-type: text/plain; x-mac-creator=4D4F5353; x-mac-type=54455854; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en,fr-CA Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx nice music. it's going great with my green tea and twilight snow fall outside right now. the field recording are really nice too... creepy and cinematic. what's it done on? i've been doing a lot of stuff like this lately, just improvising live to harddrive using my nord lead 3 to tweak out some massive dark ambient textures... hardware though... have you checked out the 'metaphysical function' instrument in reaktor instruments II? you'd dig. also i really like your website... all the best g. Eric b wrote: > You can download the entire project free > at http://www.ericbollman.com > > Any feedback/thoughts regarding the compositions or > the mastering of the album would be GREATLY > appreciated. Please contact me off the list. > > thanks!! > -eric > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Jan 6 20:03:02 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33694-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.110]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 06 Jan 2005 15:03:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 06 Jan 2005 15:03:01 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 49386 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 06 Jan 2005 20:02:57 +0000 Received: (qmail 49308 invoked from network); Thu, 06 Jan 2005 20:02:57 +0000 Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2005 12:02:54 -0800 From: Phil Thomson <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Bill Gates: Free Culture advocates are "communists" To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: Phil Thomson <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=L4u46Y2uSJvD3ypdXiY7oz5uJ0DuGKrcfbKbIedUL3xYejyyCXxIcs3bxYBAvb89it/cDv2+M66EBdTvgp7IQjmIeKxjq+xIWl25ejK8jH8rp/D3yVn56RLN+m5BCzLPol07nuoa2zJKIKTHDF13vEo6x2l5G+Wl0MZodSkyo30= X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx "There are some new modern-day sort of communists who want to get rid of the incentive for musicians and moviemakers and software makers under various guises. They don't think that those incentives should exist." http://www.boingboing.net/2005/01/05/bill_gates_free_cult.html P -- Phil Thomson xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx { home: http://www.sfu.ca/~pthomson/ { blog: http://pthomson.blogspot.com/ { blog2: http://www.bloglines.com/blog/PhilThomson { label: http://centibel.org/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Jan 6 19:21:14 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33693-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 06 Jan 2005 14:21:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 06 Jan 2005 14:21:14 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 78922 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 06 Jan 2005 19:21:10 +0000 Received: (qmail 78912 invoked from network); Thu, 06 Jan 2005 19:21:10 +0000 Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2005 14:22:11 -0500 From: Mike Hansen <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] CKLN FM's Whynot Jazz playlist for December 22, 2004 To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.553) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > Dear Artist and Label > > Welcome to the radio program Whynot Jazz on Toronto's CKLN FM 88.1. > Heard Every Wednesday Morning from 7am-11am est, 1pm thru most of > Europe and noon in the UK. Available around the world at: > > www.ckln.fm > > Here is the playlist from the last Whynot Jazz Program. Please note > that radio program, hosted by Mike Hansen, takes an outside > examination of new improvised and jazz musics. Whynotjazz is one of > the very few voices for progessive new music heard in Toronto or > around the world. > > > Why Not? > 2004/12/22 > > > Artist > Song Title > Album Title > Label > > > > Furt > Mice > Dead or Alive > psi > > > > The Hanuman Sextet > String Over Skin > Confusing The Devil > rcrcd > > > > Barnyard Drama > White Christmas > Christmas Singalong Vol 2 > Barnyard Records > > > > AIR Acoustic Trio > Rostock part 2 > Rostock > Meta Records > > > > Micheal Keith > 16 > Non-Adhersive Electric Guitar Solo > www.alexiteric.com > > > > Scorch Trio > Brennj Fynnj > Luggumt > Runegrammofon > > > > Do Make Say Think > White Light of Chinatown > & Yet & Yet > Constellation > > > > Michael Occupinti/Chris Cawthray > Snowfall > Winter Music > independent > > > > R.U.B. > Adhere and Now > Are You Be > Animul Records > > > > Barnyard Drama > Rudolph The Red Nose Reindeer > Christmas Singalong Vol. 2 > Barnyard Records > > > > Fred Longberg - Holm Trio > Track 8 > other Valentines > demo > > > > Lori Freedman-Kaffe Matthews > track 3 > @ Goethe Institue > Roughidea > > > > Ateleia > Production and Poverty > Swimming Against the Moment > Antioptic > > > > Tim Posgate > with Ben Grossman > A Little MIT > Guildwood > Records > > > > 2nd Outlet > Aurlian Yellow > Burnt Sienna > Nuscope > > > > B. Falaise/R.Samworth/P.Tanguay/D.Vander Schyff > It Was Nice > The Unexpected One > Ambiance Magnestiques > > > > Barnyard Drama > Jingle Bell rock > Christmas sing Along Vol 2 > Barnyard Records > > > > Nels Cline/Andrea Parkins/Tom Rainey > Alleys of North America > Ash and Tabula > (Out Trios Volume 3) > Atavistic > > > > Food > Christcookies > Last Supper > Rune Grammofon > > > > Sten Sandell/David Stackenas > Jansson's Temptation part 1 > Gubbrora > psi > > > > Barnyard Drama > Feliz Navidad > Christmas Sing Along Vol 2 > Barnyard Records > > > > Tim Posgate > In the Future of Your Dream > In the Future of Your Dream > Guildwood Records > > > Your support is necessary in keeping this voice for the music current. > Please feel free to forward music to the address below. Thanks again > for your support. Keep Listening > > > Thanks > Mike > > > Mike Hansen > CKLN FM 88.1 > Whynot Jazz Program > 79 Benson Ave. > Toronto,On > Canada > M6G 2H7 > xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Jan 6 16:50:37 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33692-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.113]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 06 Jan 2005 11:50:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 06 Jan 2005 11:50:37 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 17170 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 06 Jan 2005 16:50:33 +0000 Received: (qmail 17160 invoked from network); Thu, 06 Jan 2005 16:50:32 +0000 Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2005 16:50:16 +0000 From: xxxxxxx@xxx.xxx Subject: [microsound] to kim from thaniel. nosedemo To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Oct 18 2004) Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_evrtclRLSI/KFOy7lieXrw)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Authenticated-Sender: dGlvbmxlZUBhdHQubmV0 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_evrtclRLSI/KFOy7lieXrw) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit hey, the cdr should get to you either today or tommorrow [ saturday at the latest] . please email me when you get it. -t -------------- Original message from Kim Cascone <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>: -------------- > redirected URL > http://tinyurl.com/695uv > > > the long story: > http://www.reuters.co.uk/newsArticle.jhtml? > type=internetNews&storyID=7250030§ion=news&src=rss/uk/internetNews > > > I guess it was for real... > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > --Boundary_(ID_evrtclRLSI/KFOy7lieXrw)-- From ???@??? Thu Jan 6 16:17:45 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33691-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.86]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 06 Jan 2005 11:17:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 06 Jan 2005 11:17:45 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 3324 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 06 Jan 2005 16:17:43 +0000 Received: (qmail 3312 invoked from network); Thu, 06 Jan 2005 16:17:43 +0000 Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2005 08:05:51 -0800 From: Kim Cascone <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] [ot] follow up to the Apple sub-$500 desktop To: microsound_list <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Loop-Detect: 1 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx redirected URL http://tinyurl.com/695uv the long story: http://www.reuters.co.uk/newsArticle.jhtml? type=internetNews&storyID=7250030§ion=news&src=rss/uk/internetNews I guess it was for real... --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Jan 6 16:05:52 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33689-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.109]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 06 Jan 2005 11:05:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 06 Jan 2005 11:05:52 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 94732 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 06 Jan 2005 16:05:49 +0000 Received: (qmail 94722 invoked from network); Thu, 06 Jan 2005 16:05:49 +0000 Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2005 08:05:46 -0800 (PST) From: Eric b <xxxx_xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Completion of my first album To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=P9DXoLy+QmKEw10oEkylxnFE3kD3Jxnwc3rOA6rxhGWCYnoMadW3YsIb+nHjeLqr+fx8Oc7Mus4yDmbf+K8II0hggN/9GdvfA8Wx4aKArUAZDL+oM9xG0aNdKL2SuSxWc1EaOELAwAEV/GMc61gvd4pxScJgL8r2FrNNkAMsfrc= ; X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx You can download the entire project free at http://www.ericbollman.com Any feedback/thoughts regarding the compositions or the mastering of the album would be GREATLY appreciated. Please contact me off the list. thanks!! -eric __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! 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Thu Jan 6 16:15:38 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33690-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 06 Jan 2005 11:15:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 06 Jan 2005 11:15:38 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 1058 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 06 Jan 2005 16:15:35 +0000 Received: (qmail 830 invoked from network); Thu, 06 Jan 2005 16:15:34 +0000 Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2005 08:00:05 -0800 From: Kim Cascone <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] [ot] "modern-day sort of communists" To: microsound_list <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Loop-Detect: 1 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx apparently Bill Gates lives in more of a bubble than previously suspected... here's the short redirected url: http://tinyurl.com/3kl9s here's the real one: http://news.com.com/Gates+taking+a+seat+in+your+den/2008-1041_3 -5514121.html?part=rss&tag=5514121&subj=news.1041.5 > "There are fewer communists in the world today than there were. There > are some new modern-day sort of communists who want to get rid of the > incentive for musicians and moviemakers and software makers under > various guises. They don't think that those incentives should exist." > - B. Gates --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Jan 6 09:46:47 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33688-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.82]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 06 Jan 2005 04:46:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 06 Jan 2005 04:46:47 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 97334 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 06 Jan 2005 09:46:47 +0000 Received: (qmail 97324 invoked from network); Thu, 06 Jan 2005 09:46:47 +0000 Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2005 10:46:33 +0100 From: "jan.larsson" <xx@xxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] rfid In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-Originating-IP: 83.227.119.238 To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Mail-Handler: MailHop Outbound by DynDNS.org X-Report-Abuse-To: xxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx (see http://www.mailhop.org/outbound/abuse.html for abuse reporting information) X-MHO-User: mockba X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx anyone interested in playing around with rfid might want to check out the upcoming issue of elektor (the diy electronics mag). it will include a small circuit that detects if any RFID-readers/scanners are active in an area. 2005-01-05 kl. 23.22 skrev Kim Cascone: >> rifd chip with a midi-track > > you mean an RFID tag, right? that's a very interesting idea: create a > RFID tag that could create 'problems' for scanning devices, i.e. > jamming scanners in retail or gov't places...how would one translate > this into sound? collecting data from the scanning device and using it > as parameter data in Max/MSP or PD?...anyone know if such a project > exists? > cool idea though! :) > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Jan 6 01:40:53 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33687-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 05 Jan 2005 20:40:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 05 Jan 2005 20:40:53 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 51740 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 06 Jan 2005 01:40:51 +0000 Received: (qmail 51668 invoked from network); Thu, 06 Jan 2005 01:40:50 +0000 Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2005 17:40:26 -0800 From: Trevor Mcpherson <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] rfid In-reply-to: <006601c4f37c$2f57e440$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> <006601c4f37c$2f57e440$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Just in case I'm not the only one who had no idea what rdif is.... http://www.acmqueue.com/modules.php? name=Content&pa=printer_friendly&pid=216&page=1 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RFID On 5-Jan-05, at 3:13 PM, Kassen wrote: > Brian Klein; > >> yeah most clothes don't have barcodes or rfids, unless >> you're buying them from certain stores, or you leave >> the price tag on. but a good idea might be to take cds >> (or other musical media) and scan their barcodes. > > Hmmm. We can already scan sound, it might be much more interesting to > scan > non-sound products. > > I remember one gizzmo from a decade or so ago that was stirring up a > hype in > Japan. This "Barcode Battler" would transform a scanned barcode into > strength/defence/whatever for imaginary combatants. You and your > friends > could pitch various products against eachother. If memory serves this > caused > a riot when some kind of pasta turned out to yield exceptionally high > scores > and all fans ran out to get it... > > Just imagine how some innocent little product like oatmeal might be > the new > amen break of Microsound. It would be exceptionally funny if the best > sounds > would come from relatively expensive products that would be of no use > to the > average Microsounder. > > On a more serious note; many laptops come with IR ports. The addition > of a > source of infra red might get a dedicated tweaker a suitable barcode > reading > device at little cost. > > Kas. > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Jan 5 23:15:40 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33686-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 05 Jan 2005 18:15:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 05 Jan 2005 18:15:39 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 97762 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 05 Jan 2005 23:15:38 +0000 Received: (qmail 97750 invoked from network); Wed, 05 Jan 2005 23:15:38 +0000 Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2005 00:13:32 +0100 From: Kassen <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] rfid To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <006601c4f37c$2f57e440$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Brian Klein; > yeah most clothes don't have barcodes or rfids, unless > you're buying them from certain stores, or you leave > the price tag on. but a good idea might be to take cds > (or other musical media) and scan their barcodes. Hmmm. We can already scan sound, it might be much more interesting to scan non-sound products. I remember one gizzmo from a decade or so ago that was stirring up a hype in Japan. This "Barcode Battler" would transform a scanned barcode into strength/defence/whatever for imaginary combatants. You and your friends could pitch various products against eachother. If memory serves this caused a riot when some kind of pasta turned out to yield exceptionally high scores and all fans ran out to get it... Just imagine how some innocent little product like oatmeal might be the new amen break of Microsound. It would be exceptionally funny if the best sounds would come from relatively expensive products that would be of no use to the average Microsounder. On a more serious note; many laptops come with IR ports. The addition of a source of infra red might get a dedicated tweaker a suitable barcode reading device at little cost. Kas. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Jan 5 22:59:56 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33685-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 05 Jan 2005 17:59:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 05 Jan 2005 17:59:56 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 88639 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 05 Jan 2005 22:59:54 +0000 Received: (qmail 88617 invoked from network); Wed, 05 Jan 2005 22:59:53 +0000 Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2005 14:59:48 -0800 (PST) From: Brian Klein <xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] rfid In-reply-to: <005c01c4f377$56a18420$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=qfx0/z/AkVquLM/uLngJNMOV1ice26IIK+r/c+yIl3le8XhHajXSOP+aRFIDe3pBwXjDtdD1H3zIYQsbXG2eyZ0LeeJFjICorCI/LgLJLZhQES1AgWPcb/TYHTHhc9hna3LvU2WLiHTo0vKtXV4X1s5rvO9uiDVLEbM/w6MCPhQ= ; X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx yeah most clothes don't have barcodes or rfids, unless you're buying them from certain stores, or you leave the price tag on. but a good idea might be to take cds (or other musical media) and scan their barcodes. > That´d be a like a updated version of that casio > keyboard the scans > barcodes! > > It could even make real sense to incorportate this. > Some synth or sequecer > could read the tags of your clothes and adapt the > sound to what you wear. A > moody sound for the worn black hoodies, a cheerful > one for the bright shirts > with the cartoon characters. You might need to train > a neural net for a > while while it reads the tags and you fill in your > mood but this makes a lot > of sense to me. > > The problem is that right now all the worn hoodies > are still without the > tags, this plan might need to age a little. > > Kas. > > > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Jan 5 22:40:59 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33684-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.81]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 05 Jan 2005 17:40:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 05 Jan 2005 17:40:59 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 77141 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 05 Jan 2005 22:40:57 +0000 Received: (qmail 77130 invoked from network); Wed, 05 Jan 2005 22:40:56 +0000 Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2005 23:38:51 +0100 From: Kassen <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] rfid To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <005c01c4f377$56a18420$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Kim; > you mean an RFID tag, right? that's a very interesting idea: create a > RFID tag that could create 'problems' for scanning devices, i.e. > jamming scanners in retail or gov't places...how would one translate > this into sound? collecting data from the scanning device and using it > as parameter data in Max/MSP or PD?...anyone know if such a project > exists? That´d be a like a updated version of that casio keyboard the scans barcodes! It could even make real sense to incorportate this. Some synth or sequecer could read the tags of your clothes and adapt the sound to what you wear. A moody sound for the worn black hoodies, a cheerful one for the bright shirts with the cartoon characters. You might need to train a neural net for a while while it reads the tags and you fill in your mood but this makes a lot of sense to me. The problem is that right now all the worn hoodies are still without the tags, this plan might need to age a little. Kas. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Jan 5 22:22:30 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33683-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.113]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 05 Jan 2005 17:22:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 05 Jan 2005 17:22:30 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 66847 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 05 Jan 2005 22:22:28 +0000 Received: (qmail 66837 invoked from network); Wed, 05 Jan 2005 22:22:28 +0000 Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2005 14:22:24 -0800 From: Kim Cascone <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] rfid To: microsound_list <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Loop-Detect: 1 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > rifd chip with a midi-track you mean an RFID tag, right? that's a very interesting idea: create a RFID tag that could create 'problems' for scanning devices, i.e. jamming scanners in retail or gov't places...how would one translate this into sound? collecting data from the scanning device and using it as parameter data in Max/MSP or PD?...anyone know if such a project exists? cool idea though! :) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Jan 5 16:38:38 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33682-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 05 Jan 2005 11:38:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 05 Jan 2005 11:38:37 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 63866 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 05 Jan 2005 16:38:35 +0000 Received: (qmail 63856 invoked from network); Wed, 05 Jan 2005 16:38:34 +0000 Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2005 11:39:36 -0500 From: Mike Hansen <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] WhynotJazz-Top 10 and Honourable Mentions for 2004 To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.553) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > Mike Hansen WhynotJazz Program CKLN FM 88.1 Wednesdays 7am -11am > > Top 10 > > 1. Christian Fennesz Venice Touch > > 2. Alvin Curran/Domenico Scianjno Our Ur Rossbin Productions > > 3. Wolfgang Mitterer Radio Fractal/Beat Music Hatology/Hathut > Records > > 4. Brigit Uhler/Ernst Thoma Slants Unit Records > > 5. Pau Torres My Wrong Mood Testing Ground Records > > 6. Martin Brandlmayr/Werner Dafeldecker/Martin Siewert/Stephen Nemeth > Die Instabilitat Der Symmetrie Grob/Doc Records > > 7. Cremaster Flysch G3G Records > > 8. Smash and Teeny Gathering Spool Records > > 9. Burkhard Beins/Dirk Marwedel/ Michael Vorfeld Misiiki > Rossbin Productions > > 10. John Tilbury/Eddie Prevost Discrete Moments Matchless Recordings > > Honourable Mentions > > 1. Matt Broughner Live at The Underground independent > 2. Lee Ranaldo/Dave Dyment New Life After Fire Art Metropole > 3. Axel Dorner/Tony Buck Durch und Durch Vitamin Records > 4. Les Poules Prairie Orange Ambiance Magnestiques > 5. Nilsson/Sandell Duo Strings and Objects LJ Records > 6. Mats Gustafsson/Sonic Youth Hidros 3 Smalltown Supersound > 7. Iks Abstr cncr Ora Records > 8. Brodie West/Han Bennink Brodie and Han independent > 9. Koch, Schutz and Studer Life Tied Intakt Records > 10. Stars Like Fleas Sun Lights Down the Fence Praemedia > > > Mike Hansen > WhynotJazz Program > CKLN FM 88.1 Toronto > 79 Benson Ave. > Toronto,On > Canada > M6G 2H7 > xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Jan 5 14:45:11 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33681-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 05 Jan 2005 09:45:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 05 Jan 2005 09:45:11 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 1365 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 05 Jan 2005 14:45:07 +0000 Received: (qmail 1355 invoked from network); Wed, 05 Jan 2005 14:45:07 +0000 Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2005 09:45:03 -0500 From: xxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx Subject: [microsound] FW: Linux audio CD deadline extended To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Cc: xxxxx-xxxxx-xxxx@xxxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx, xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx, xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx.xx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Atlas Mailer 2.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-AOL-IP: 195.93.34.8 X-AOL-Language: english X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Subj: Linux audio CD deadline extended Date: Tue, 4 1 2005 2:56:28 pm GMT From: Ed Carter <xx@xxxxxxx.xxx> To: Jake Harries <xxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> Sent from the Internet (Details) Hi Jake Hope you had good new year. Thought I'd let you know that we're extending the deadline for the Linux Audio CD by a couple of weeks - can you forward the new info to the lists you posted it to before? We've had a really good response, so are possibly thinking of doing a double CD (which gives plenty more room!). Cheers ed CALL FOR AUDIO SUBMISSIONS Linux Open Source Sound CD (L.O.S.S.) [Planned release date - April 2005] Deadline for submissions: 21-01-05 Access Space, Sheffield's lowtech digital arts organisation, is currently calling for submissions for a CD of audio produced with open source software, and the Linux operating system. There is no specific theme for the curated works, as the concept behind the project is freedom of all elements of music manufacture, encapsulating style, production software and distribution techniques. We hope to receive submissions covering a broad and eclectic range of styles, to represent the dynamic nature of contemporary open source audio culture. Therefore, contributions are invited from musicians of all types, programmers, sound artists or artists who use sound. The LOSS CD is to be released under a Creative Commons 'Sampling Plus' license, so as well as being produced with free software, the CD will also extend the ethos of the open source movement into its method of distribution. For more information about this license, please visit http://creativecommons.org. Please do not submit tracks if you are not willing to release your work in this manner. The LOSS project will develop not only through the CD release, but also through a website, aimed at being an ongoing portal for producers of open source music to showcase their work. This will also offer the works for redistribution under the Creative Commons licensing mentioned above. This website will be online later in the year at http://www.access-space.org/loss. How to submit your proposal: [A maximum of 2 tracks per artist, between 20 secs and 8 mins in length.] Send a DATA CD containing the following files: - Your audio track(s) in .wav format, 16bit, 44.1khz in either mono or stereo. - A text document stating your name, contact details (email and mailing address), track title, track length, the software and operating system used for producing the track, and a declaration that your track does not infringe any copyrights or use any unlicensed material. - An optional screenshot (in .jpg or .png format) of your software setup - which may be used for artwork purposes. For more information, or to mail your submission: Linux Open Source Sound CD Access Space 1a Sidney Street Sheffield S1 4RG 0114 2495522 www.access-space.org xxxx@xxxxxx-xxxxx.xxx Access Space is UK registered charity no: 1103837 Funded by Arts Council England, Yorkshire and Digital South Yorkshire. -- Ed Carter Digital Arts Programme Manager Access Space -- 1 Sidney Street -- Sheffield S1 4RG Access Space is UK Registered Charity: #1103837 T: +44 (0)114 2495522 F: +44 (0)114 2495533 W: http://access-space.org -- best Jake xxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Jan 5 09:16:42 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33680-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 05 Jan 2005 04:16:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 05 Jan 2005 04:16:42 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 18245 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 05 Jan 2005 09:16:43 +0000 Received: (qmail 18235 invoked from network); Wed, 05 Jan 2005 09:16:43 +0000 Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2005 09:16:25 +0000 From: julio d'escrivan <xxxxx@xxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] hotline server down? To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx question: is the server still down? I keep getting "remote server refused connection", even though I am inputting the login and password I was sent... thanks, Julio. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Jan 4 22:26:52 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33679-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.81]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 04 Jan 2005 17:26:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 04 Jan 2005 17:26:52 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 15974 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 04 Jan 2005 22:26:50 +0000 Received: (qmail 15963 invoked from network); Tue, 04 Jan 2005 22:26:50 +0000 Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2005 14:26:09 -0800 From: Carrera-Linn Cultural Exchange <xxxx.xxxxx@xxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] [OT] Tsunami update In-reply-to: <xxxxx.xx.xxx.xx.x.xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxxxxx.xx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <018c01c4ed25$724b0af0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> <xxxxx.xx.xxx.xx.x.xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxxxxx.xx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> <001701c4ede3$a1f120f0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxx> <xxxxx.xx.xxx.xx.x.xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxxxxx.xx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Karri Ojanen wrote: >Yes, this sounds like a good idea. But when you say 'dirt poor', think of >ordinary Sri Lankans, Indians, Indonesians, Malaysians and Thai. _They_ >are dirt poor compared to any 'dirt poor' musician in our parts of the >world. Surely you can help now by giving a couple bucks to the Red Cross >catastrophy aid fund? I think any one of us in the west can afford to >help. > >Karri > > Folks; You may wish to give to Worldvision as well. They have a lot of experience in the area and can definitely spread funds around the right way. Go here for more info, and it's really good to see how this tragedy can unite people. https://www.kintera.org/site/pp.asp?c=fvKVLbMVIwG&b=277370&lid=tsunami_donate&lpos=main1btn -- Best, Rudolph A. 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Tue Jan 4 22:10:10 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33677-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 04 Jan 2005 17:10:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 04 Jan 2005 17:10:10 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 8897 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 04 Jan 2005 22:10:07 +0000 Received: (qmail 8887 invoked from network); Tue, 04 Jan 2005 22:10:06 +0000 Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2005 17:09:57 -0500 From: Eloy Anzola <xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] [OT] Top 100 Artists in the world To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <000001c4f2aa$22acab40$xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Organization: groovylab MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4510 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - liberty.dnsprotect.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - hyperreal.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - groovylab.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx The A.R reflects the artists exhibition career from 1999 to today as seen from the perspective of the organizing curators of museums and private galleries. http://www.artfacts.net/ranking/Page2_EN.php ----- xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx http://groovylab.com/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Jan 4 22:25:58 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33678-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.86]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 04 Jan 2005 17:25:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 04 Jan 2005 17:25:58 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 14777 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 04 Jan 2005 22:25:53 +0000 Received: (qmail 14766 invoked from network); Tue, 04 Jan 2005 22:25:52 +0000 Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2005 22:27:48 +0100 From: Thanos Chrysakis <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] [OT] Top 100 Artists in the world In-reply-to: <000001c4f2aa$22acab40$xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BE00C8E4.4CF6%xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_6RGh9a9+AFX1z7tfUHEugQ)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.0.3 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_6RGh9a9+AFX1z7tfUHEugQ) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit on 1/4/05 11:09 PM, Eloy Anzola at xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx wrote: > The A.R reflects the artists exhibition career from 1999 to today as seen > from the perspective of the organizing curators of museums and private > galleries. > > http://www.artfacts.net/ranking/Page2_EN.php no time to check the facts :-) >>+ happy new year<< --Boundary_(ID_6RGh9a9+AFX1z7tfUHEugQ)-- From ???@??? Tue Jan 4 20:48:40 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33676-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.82]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 04 Jan 2005 15:48:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 04 Jan 2005 15:48:40 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 75372 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 04 Jan 2005 20:48:37 +0000 Received: (qmail 75361 invoked from network); Tue, 04 Jan 2005 20:48:36 +0000 Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2005 15:52:27 -0500 From: graham miller <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] [new] .microsound_tShirt project To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73C-SYMPA (Macintosh; U; PPC) Content-type: text/plain; x-mac-creator=4D4F5353; x-mac-type=54455854; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en,fr-CA Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx i love the last bit from that t-shirt link: "Now wear your shirt with pride for a better quality of life and remember, fuck grace and fuck modesty, accept all compliments with arrogance for you are now better than everyone." Kim Cascone wrote: > anyone up for a project? I got an idea while checking out this site: > http://www.stencilrevolution.com/tutorials/tutorialsview.php?id=2 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Jan 4 20:38:03 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33675-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 04 Jan 2005 15:38:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 04 Jan 2005 15:38:03 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 68059 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 04 Jan 2005 20:38:01 +0000 Received: (qmail 68031 invoked from network); Tue, 04 Jan 2005 20:38:00 +0000 Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2005 12:37:56 -0800 From: Kim Cascone <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] [new] stencil - addendum To: microsound_list <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Loop-Detect: 1 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx check out the tutorials page for more tips on making and cutting stencils: http://www.stencilrevolution.com/tutorials/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Jan 4 20:34:59 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33674-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.109]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 04 Jan 2005 15:34:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 04 Jan 2005 15:34:58 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 66353 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 04 Jan 2005 20:34:56 +0000 Received: (qmail 66342 invoked from network); Tue, 04 Jan 2005 20:34:55 +0000 Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2005 21:31:25 +0100 From: th_ost <xxxxxx@xxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] [new] .microsound_tShirt project To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <001201c4f29c$5cbce600$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_l36h3yQIMLlWVZW5tMrkxg)" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Authenticated: #3048294 X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_l36h3yQIMLlWVZW5tMrkxg) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit the aesthetic and theme should be sympathetic to .microsound, i.e. digital music, noise, electro-acoustic, glitch, software based artifact creation, subversion of technology, open source content, group collaboration, network music communities, whatever, etc. why not also implement a rifd chip with a midi-track? ;) °°° th_ost: tomoroh hidari_oliver stummer acronymic symbiosis of alter & ego http://www.tomoroh.com/ http://www.stiege44.com/ http://www.skug.at/ >> necro'phon'i'con (from Greek: Necros- dead, phon- sound, icon -picture, representation; the book of dead sounds, or the image of dead sounds) a standard reference work for the acoustic oddities of pulp-occultist lore. made mostly from fragments of killed sounds, a franken- meets wittgenstein-ian creation playing duelling banjos with all dsp available but no banjos.... °°°°° ----- Original Message ----- From: Kim Cascone To: microsound_list Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 20:07 Subject: [microsound] [new] .microsound_tShirt project anyone up for a project? I got an idea while checking out this site: http://www.stencilrevolution.com/tutorials/tutorialsview.php?id=2 here's the proposal: generate stencil art for a .microsound T-shirt: put a .pdf version for download/printout on the hotline server, put a .jpeg of the design on a TWiki page with a matching filename (so for example, I see 'micromascot101.jpg' on the TWiki site and can find 'micromascot101.pdf' on the hotline server), anyone who wants to print a T can do so by cutting out the stencil and making a single copy of the shirt per the instructions above at the stencilrevolution.com site... the aesthetic and theme should be sympathetic to .microsound, i.e. digital music, noise, electro-acoustic, glitch, software based artifact creation, subversion of technology, open source content, group collaboration, network music communities, whatever, etc. ***there are no limits to submissions, but you must place a .jpeg on TWiki page and a .pdf on hotline server (when it gets fixed) - just a thought: all flavors of *nix have a mascot and/or logo - maybe someone could think of an appropriate mascot/logo for .microsound? *simple rules:* - deadline for entries: is Jan 31 2005 - all entries allowed/encouraged but must be put on TWiki and hotline server - 1-color stencil preferred, 2-color stencil maximum - for ease of manufacturing - follow the guidelines in the stencilrevolution.com link I posted above --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org --Boundary_(ID_l36h3yQIMLlWVZW5tMrkxg)-- From ???@??? Tue Jan 4 19:07:30 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33673-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.86]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 04 Jan 2005 14:07:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 04 Jan 2005 14:07:30 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 26774 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 04 Jan 2005 19:07:27 +0000 Received: (qmail 26764 invoked from network); Tue, 04 Jan 2005 19:07:27 +0000 Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2005 11:07:23 -0800 From: Kim Cascone <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] [new] .microsound_tShirt project To: microsound_list <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Loop-Detect: 1 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx anyone up for a project? I got an idea while checking out this site: http://www.stencilrevolution.com/tutorials/tutorialsview.php?id=2 here's the proposal: generate stencil art for a .microsound T-shirt: put a .pdf version for download/printout on the hotline server, put a ..jpeg of the design on a TWiki page with a matching filename (so for example, I see 'micromascot101.jpg' on the TWiki site and can find 'micromascot101.pdf' on the hotline server), anyone who wants to print a T can do so by cutting out the stencil and making a single copy of the shirt per the instructions above at the stencilrevolution.com site... the aesthetic and theme should be sympathetic to .microsound, i.e. digital music, noise, electro-acoustic, glitch, software based artifact creation, subversion of technology, open source content, group collaboration, network music communities, whatever, etc. ***there are no limits to submissions, but you must place a .jpeg on TWiki page and a .pdf on hotline server (when it gets fixed) - just a thought: all flavors of *nix have a mascot and/or logo - maybe someone could think of an appropriate mascot/logo for .microsound? *simple rules:* - deadline for entries: is Jan 31 2005 - all entries allowed/encouraged but must be put on TWiki and hotline server - 1-color stencil preferred, 2-color stencil maximum - for ease of manufacturing - follow the guidelines in the stencilrevolution.com link I posted above --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Jan 4 17:19:25 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33672-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 04 Jan 2005 12:19:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 04 Jan 2005 12:19:25 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 65816 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 04 Jan 2005 17:19:22 +0000 Received: (qmail 65805 invoked from network); Tue, 04 Jan 2005 17:19:21 +0000 Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2005 18:22:09 +0100 From: "xxxx@xxx" <xxxx_xx@xxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] behrens tour help wanted To: Microsound-Liste <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: xxxx_xx@xxx.xxx Message-id: <OKEKJJALPLHCGDKBOCMJOEEIFCAA.xxxx_xx@xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Authenticated: #1462046 X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx dear all, german sound artist marc behrens (www.mbehrens.com) and dj zipo (www.aufabwegen.com) are playing in europe. we are looking for people that are intersted in setting up show for the free periods. we are particularily on the lookout for gigs in switzerland on 5/6Th february and in austria on 7&8th february. anybody who is interested please get back to me offlist at xxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx marc behrens + dj zipo tour 03.02.2005: zuerich, walcheturm 04.02.2005: geneve, cave 12 09.02.2005: bratislava, goethe institute 07.or8th.02.2005: vienna unconfirmed 11.02.2005: leipzig, galerie für zeitgenössische kunst 12.02.2005: berlin, sibirsche zelle (tbc) 13.02.2005: frankfurt ??? thanks for your time... best, till ----------------- a u f a b w e g e n magazine - label - mailorder p.o.box 100152 50441 cologne germany fax.: 0221-2720056 http://www.aufabwegen.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Jan 4 17:14:25 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33671-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.112]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 04 Jan 2005 12:14:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 04 Jan 2005 12:14:25 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 60722 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 04 Jan 2005 17:14:22 +0000 Received: (qmail 60710 invoked from network); Tue, 04 Jan 2005 17:14:21 +0000 Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2005 09:00:55 -0800 From: Kim Cascone <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] .microsound hotline server To: microsound_list <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Cc: microsound_hotline_admin Eric <xxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Loop-Detect: 1 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx does anyone else have a problem connecting/logging into the hotline server? if you cannot connect please drop the server admin an email: xxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx and let him know you are having difficulty sorry about this! 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Tue Jan 4 02:47:15 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33670-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 03 Jan 2005 21:47:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 03 Jan 2005 21:47:15 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 17190 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 04 Jan 2005 02:47:12 +0000 Received: (qmail 17180 invoked from network); Tue, 04 Jan 2005 02:47:12 +0000 Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2005 15:57:47 -0800 From: Kim Cascone <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] hotline server To: microsound_list <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Loop-Detect: 1 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx as of this morning the hotline server for the microsound list has been down...if I haven't responded to your email it is because I can't log into the server to assign pswd's...FYI: I don't actually run the server, I just admin the hotline accounts... sorry! 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Mon Jan 3 22:11:16 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33669-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.82]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 03 Jan 2005 17:11:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 03 Jan 2005 17:11:16 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 12311 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 03 Jan 2005 22:11:14 +0000 Received: (qmail 12255 invoked from network); Mon, 03 Jan 2005 22:11:13 +0000 Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2005 14:11:10 -0800 (PST) From: Brian Klein <xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] bit rate dropping In-reply-to: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=Hng+bhkj1TyeF+7ctLAMgRGWh2oPfc5FIy1+maCMKNRrkt0G/3rXfw5eHZRaP1muIDPQnRdOe9SQ/dVcmczJhqqbfKoI827Z7urpeoQE5i8yWPnZ+fQGwCuadB/HWXvtXNlhFi8De2+iMTDgl3dCfPmFV8iaPka/4nWTnra8iRc= ; X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx yes. you can map vst automation with audiomulch. --- scott allison <xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote: > Also of note is the free VST plug by Tom Erbe and > Akria Rabeilas "+decimate" > for bit depth and sample rate reduction. > > http://www.soundhack.com/freeware.php > > There are versions for both PC and Mac, so it should > work within Audiomulch, > but you will have to find something to control speed > of bit depth > transition, maybe Audiomulch has an assingable > enevlope? You could possibly > do it manually via midi. > > Best > Scott Allison > > >try pluggo's 'degrader' in tandem with jhno's > 'LFO'. > > >>>does anyone know if there is a plug in > for audiomulch that will > >>>drop a wavs bit rate slowly over a long > period of time. > >>>-thaniel ion lee//bridlewire > > >>or any plugin that works with wavelab or > nuendo that drops > >>bitrates? > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! 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Mon Jan 3 22:06:29 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33668-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 03 Jan 2005 17:06:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 03 Jan 2005 17:06:28 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 9306 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 03 Jan 2005 22:06:13 +0000 Received: (qmail 9281 invoked from network); Mon, 03 Jan 2005 22:06:13 +0000 Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2005 23:06:11 +0100 From: festival garage <xxxx@xxxxxx-x.xx> Subject: [microsound] FM3 concert @ staalplaat store berlin To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BDFF8063.15812%xxxx@xxxxxx-x.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.4.030702.0 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx sat 08 january LIVE at STAALPLAAT haunted, hypnotic minimal electronics from christiaan virant's beijing-based FM3 project. 8:00pm torstr. 72 10119 berlin/germany + zelda panda ---- http://www.heavengallery.com/define/FM3.html (you can also check our stream archive http://www.garage-g.de) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Jan 3 21:17:07 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33667-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 03 Jan 2005 16:17:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 03 Jan 2005 16:17:07 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 89428 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 03 Jan 2005 21:17:04 +0000 Received: (qmail 89414 invoked from network); Mon, 03 Jan 2005 21:17:03 +0000 Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2005 13:17:00 -0800 (PST) From: zach layton <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] [an] Darmstadt @ galapagos w. Oblaat, jeff carey, robert van heuman + adam kendall In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=kHwQJlQIdBwOyU/lG9MCT6dmRItEzuD2fORDP2+pgN5veVd7MyvXTtl4Kxc5U4z5wpk0Fmusxw9uVWGH3zoVL8Cb2re361oUGpww+JZzsCbIIRA8gCL6rg+pp9ji8BsKBAoO6nZipihJ4ISqVRzuja5a+XaroRn99Zjk4ggZQJI= ; X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Happy New Year...for those of you in the New York Area: Wednesday's Darmstadt party is going to be fantastic. Featuring Live Video by {R}ake's ADAM KENDALL, electronic improv all the way from Amsterdam with JEFF CAREY and ROBERT VAN HEUMAN, and Brooklyn's own powerbook genius, OBLAAT. And, as usual, I'll be playing some gems by John Cage, James Tenney, Morton Feldman and company in the spaces between. I can't adequately express my enthusiasm for this one...it's going to be a feast for the eyes and ears and should not be missed!!! see below for details: Weds 1/5 7pm-10pm $5 experimental new music and classics of the avant garde listening party... Featuring JEFF CAREY + ROBERT VAN HEUMEN + OBLAAT with Video by ADAM KENDALL Jeff Carey is computer music composer and performer who studied Audio Technology at American University and Sonology at the Institute for Sonology of the Koninklijk Conservatorium in Den Haag. His work has always centered around a system-oriented approach to sound production and composition. Carey has focused his attention on two specific sound making activities: his participation as computer instrumentalist in the electro-acoustic ensemble Office-R(6) and his own acousmatic multichannel computer compositions. Robert van Heumen has worked with Anouk van Dijk (choreographer) on music for choreographies and for the website http://www.anoukvandijk.com. In 2001, he worked with Koen Nutters (composer/acoustic bass) on the project 'St.Lab/OfficeR' for research on composed improvisation with electronics and acoustic instrumentalists. He has done various performances in Amsterdam, including STEIM and OT301 concerts, working as an improvisor on live sampling. Adam Kendall is a Brooklyn-based musician and video-artist. In the words of one kind critic, his video is "Real-world images evolving into abstract textures and monochrome colors." His extra-curricular activities include co-curating the a/v series {R}AKE. http://www.hellbender.org OBLAAT - Based in Brooklyn, New York, sound artist, composer, [electroluxe] event schemer, core member of SHARE(http://share.dj), o.blaat (keiko uenishi) is known for creating various interactive audio environments such as 'beat piece (with Ping-Pong game)', 'audio coat check', 'coupier', 'fillip'. All of which were resulted from her ceaseless pursuits of ways to erase performer's presence and ultimately alter listening situation altogether. After performing with an unique hand-made electronic sound system ‘tapboard.effector.soundsystem’ for a couple of years, Uenishi has been exploring powerbook's mobility and its least distracting state of being. Her first composition effort with powerbook, has been commissioned and presented by galarie wieland (Berlin), Germany, as a part of its exhibition, 'Songs of Love and Hate (side A)'. Her powerbook performance has appeared at many music venues/events/museums including; Tonic, The Kitchen, SHARE at openair, Whitney Museum of American Art, P.S. 1 Contemporary Art Center, American Museum of Moving Image, UnityGain, phonomena, Rhizome.org, White Columns, MIT, Cornell Univercity, Vox Populi Gallery in Philladelphia, PA, and toured extensively in Europe: Serralves Museum of Contemporary Art (Porto), ZDB (Lisbon), Forum Municipal Luisa Todi(Setubal) in Portugal; Rhiz & Phonotaktik Festival (Vienna) in Austria; NBI, Bastard, Staatsbank, Transmediale festival 2004 (all in Berlin); A-Musik (Köln), in Germany; Le Lieu Unique (Nantes), Zoobizarre (Bordeaux), Transfert 2003 (Lille-Paris-Poitiers-Bordeaux) in France; STEIM (Amsterdam), WORM (Rotterdam) in Netherlands; RAS gallery (Barcelona) in Spain; What Is Music? Festival in Melbourne and Sydney, in Australia. Her sound was described in Wired magazine as 'Unleashing an enchanted sea of sound: Fuzzed-out birdcalls flit through submarine drones, and scratchy beats crackle like a thousand records skipping as one'. She has collaborated numerous artists including: Ikue Mori, DJ Olive, Lloop, Miguel Frasconi, Timeblind, Eyvind Kang, Sachiko M, Tetsuji Akiyama, Aki Onda, Toshio Kajiwara, Zeena Parkins, Christine Bard, Kaffe Matthews, Georg Zeitblom, Ralph Steinbrüchel, Günter Müller, Norbert Morslang, Anthony Coleman, Kurt Ralske, Lukasz Lysakowski, HC Gilje, Eric Redlinger, Klaus Filip, among others. She was a member of Marina Rosenfeld's 17 piece guitar/powerbook orchestra, 'Sheer Frost Orchestra 2000', and also was a member of laptops-and-electronics quartet with Ikue Mori, Kaffe Mathews, and Marina Rosenfeld, recorded with a commission by STEIM, Amsterdam, Holland, 2001 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Jan 3 20:23:38 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33666-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 03 Jan 2005 15:23:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 03 Jan 2005 15:23:38 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 64034 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 03 Jan 2005 20:23:33 +0000 Received: (qmail 64024 invoked from network); Mon, 03 Jan 2005 20:23:33 +0000 Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2005 15:25:28 -0500 From: tkrakowiak <xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] dyne:bolic 1.4 codename LUMUMBA In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@x-x.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Opera M2/7.54 (FreeBSD, build 751) X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@x-x.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx i think it's an excellent distro, as a matter of fact i'm totally in love with it. 'nest' function is great (saving all the prefs on usbkey or hdd) cheers t On Mon, 03 Jan 2005 21:03:11 +0100, derek holzer <xxxxx@x-x.xxx> wrote: > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: [spectre] dyne:bolic 1.4 codename LUMUMBA > Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 20:03:30 +0100 > From: jaromil <xxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx> > Organization: rastasoft.org > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > > > annunciazio'! annunciazio'! pepperepe'! pepperepe'! > > dyne.org productions proudly present: > > 8 8 8 o > 8 8 8 > .oPYo8 o o odYo. .oPYo. 88 8oPYo. .oPYo. 8 o8 .oPYo. > 8 8 8 8 8' `8 8oooo8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 ' > 8 8 8 8 8 8 8. 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 . > `YooP' `YooP8 8 8 `Yooo' 88 `YooP' `YooP' 8 8 `YooP' > :.....::....8 ..::..:.....:..::.....::.....:..:..:.....: > :::::::::ooP'.:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: > :::::::::...:::::: version 1.4 :: codename LUMUMBA ::::: > > 100% FREE MULTIMEDIA GNU/LINUX OPERATING SYSTEM > > RASTA SOFTWARE FOR THE FREEDOM OF CREATION > > the complete system is free to download and copy, go on > ____ _ http://dynebolic.org _ _____ > ___ __ http://dynebolic.org __ ____ > __ ___ http://dynebolic.org ___ ___ > _ ____ http://dynebolic.org ____ __ > and redempt yourself from closed source software > ISO CD image of 610Mbytes > > > > :: WHAT IS DYNE:BOLIC ? > > Dyne:bolic GNU/Linux is a live bootable cd, containing a whole > operating system that works straight from boot, without the need to > install or change anything on the hard disk. > If you like and want to have it on harddisk you can simply copy the > /dyne directory on your computer: the simpliest installation ever! > > Dyne:bolic is user-friendly: recognizes your hardware devices (sound, > video, firewire, and USB), and offers a VAST range of free software > applications for multimedia production, audio and video manipulation, > sound composition and synthesis, 3D modeling, photography, peer2peer > filesharing, web browsing, desktop publishing, word processing, cd > burning, email, encryption, remote conferencing, funky games, a world > atlas navigator and even more. > > Advanced features include: a complete environment with the most > advanced > multimedia applications available on GNU/Linux, automatic clustering > joining > the CPU power between any other dyne:bolic on the local network, > capability > to work well on old PC (Pentium1 64Mb) and even XBOX game consoles, > support > to save and encrypt personal data and settings on a usb key. > > Dyne:bolic is shaped on the needs of media activists and artists to > promote free speech as a tool for the production and not only the > fruition of digital and analog informations. > It takes birth as a grassroot effort to spread free software and the > spirit of sharing information and knowledge. > > for more information see: > http://dynebolic.dyne.org/index.php?show=features with screenshots > http://dynebolic.dyne.org/index.php?show=press past reviews > http://dynebolic.dyne.org/index.php?show=docs the manual and wiki > > > > :: WHAT'S NEW IN THIS RELEASE? > > This release provides a major upgrade to software included and adds > new useful applications, plus fixes some important outstanding bugs. > Since the enormous success of the previous release, the suggestions > of a growing number of users and the dedication of currently active > developers Jaromil and Smilzo lead to this very stable release. > > Everyone is encouraged to upgrade! here the complete ChangeLog: > > = 1.4 major update "LUMUMBA" > - Pure Data equipped with all major extensions: > PDP, PiDiP, RRadical, grid, pique, bonk, choice, > fiddle, freeverb, zexy, GEM-0.90, OSC and more > (10x to Aymeric, Derek, Frank, Yves, Tom and PD!) > - Blender-2.33a + Yafray-0.0.7 + Python game engine > - LiVES 0.9.1 with Ogg/Theora and _many_ other codecs! > - FreeJ-0.7.1 "BIKO" - RASTASOFTWARE! > console remote controller (VJ over Ethernet) and > Procedural Video Scripting: evolution from NLE systems > - updated Linux 2.4.26, Alsa, OpenMosix and SquashFS-2.1 > with improved efficience and wider device support > including Zoran devices and most video boards > - Xbox support up to recent versions and cromwell bios > - Python is included with GUI extensions > - Fix to modem connection, now fully functional > - new software: Jamin-0.8, InkScape-0.39, poedit-1.2.5, > KPhone-4.0.2, TimeMachine-0.2.4, tftp-hpa-0.38, > Bomb-1.26, Pure-Ftpd-1.0.20, mlDonkey-2.5.22, > Circle-0.41c, Aqualung-0.9b2, FLAC-1.1, iftop-0.17p1, > Emacs-21.3, Seq24-0.5.2, Thunderbird-1.0, > Chestnut-dialer-0.1, libtheora-1.0a4 > - Mobilemesh wireless adaptive routing daemon > see /usr/mobilemesh (10x to Elektra) > - updated software: FreeJ-0.7.1, MuSE-0.9.1, > ImageMagick-6, LADSPA, Jack-0.98.1, Blender-2.33a, > Cinelerra-1.2.1, Gaim-1.0, GQview-1.4.3, isolinux 2.10, > GEM-0.90, pd-0.37-4, Audacity-1.2.2, LiVES-0.9.1, > BlueFish-0.13, EffecTV-0.3.9, MPlayer-1.0pre5, > QJackCtl-0.2.10, Hydrogen-0.9, SDL-1.2.7, png-1.2.7, > Xfe-0.72, libFOX-1.2.9, Firefox-1.0, Rezound-0.11.1beta, > ogg-1.1.1, vorbis-1.0.1, Hydrogen-0.9.1, mjpegtools-1.6.2 > - new games: Eboard, Racer and Eat The Whistle! > tk-solitaire and Starfighter-1.1.1 plus the juicy > updates for Wesnoth-0.8.6 > - more documentation in the dynebolic user's manual > - lectrobrain :: thk03 > > In case you have a DOCK (/dyne directory copied in your harddisk) > you should > upgrade it by using the one in this release - or when you boot the > CD just > answer YES when you'll be prompted to upgrade. > > > > : THIS IS RASTA SOFTWARE ! > > This software is about Resistance ina babylon world which tries to > control and limit the way we communicate and we share informations > and knowledge. > > This software is for all those who don't want to afford the latest > expensive > hardware to speak out their words of consciousness and good will, > still > offering a complete operating system with more features than some > other > proprietary system affected by viruses and full of spyware. > > This software is free, Jah Rastafari Livity bless your freedom! > > You should share this software for the good of yourself and your > people, respect others and let them express, be free and let others > be free. You are welcome to redistribute dyne:bolic in any way you > like, to your friends and neighbours, to anybody who needs or is just > curious to try, as you wish. > > The roots of Rasta culture can be found in Resistance to slavery. > This > software is not a business. This software is free as of speech and > is one > step in the struggle for Redemption and Freedom. This software is > dedicated > to the memory of Patrice Lumumba, Marcus Garvey, Marthin Luther > King, Steve > Biko, Walter Rodney, Malcom X, Mumia Abu Jamal and all those who > still > resist to slavery, racism and oppression, who still fight > imperialism and > seek an alternative to the egemony of capitalism in our World. > > > > :: CONTRIBUTE TO DYNE:BOLIC ! > > IF dyne:bolic can be useful for you, you can also be useful to > dyne:bolic! consider the possibility to get involved with > development, contribute artwork and ideas, help with debugging and > documenting and anything else can come to you in mind. > > ->>>> BUG REPORT ONLINE INTERFACE: http://bugs.dyne.org > ->>>> JOIN OUR MAILINGLIST: mailto:xxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx > ->>>> CONTRIBUTE DOCUMENTATION: http://lab.dyne.org/DyneBolic (wiki) > > Furthermore, please consider that the dyne:bolic project is an > indypendent effort relying on support from non-profit, grant-making > and business organizations willing to sustain development of free and > opensource software like this. > > Dyne:bolic relies on support from individuals like you to preserve, > protect and promote the freedom it gives to its users. > > This new release opens a donation round which is much needed at the > moment > so please show your appreciation with a small act of generosity! > thanks! > > > > :: GET SUPPORT AND CUSTOMIZED VERSIONS > > The dyne:bolic team is also offering commercial support: we can > provide > workshops, consulting services, customisations, setup and warranty > for > fitness to a particular purpose. > > If you need commercial support on dyne:bolic this is the way you can > be 100% > sure it will work for you. > > In fact, this is the sustainable model we are building around > dyne:bolic to > support our development and further research: we are following the > best > knowledge here principle and offer customisation and special support > packages. > > For more informations see > http://dynebolic.dyne.org/index.php?show=cust > and our workshop offer > http://dynebolic.dyne.org/index.php?show=workshop > > > > :: DEVELOPERS TEAM > > Denis "Jaromil" Rojo - mantainer of dyne:bolic, HasciiCam MuSE and > FreeJ > > Alex "Smilzo" Gnoli - mantainer of the Xbox dynebolic kernel > > Silvano "Kysucix" Galliani - developer of FreeJ > > Antonino "Nightolo" Radici, Luca "Rubik" Profico > and Angelo "Pallotron" Failla - developers of MuSE > > Federico "Bomboclat" Prando and Francesco "C1cc10" Rana for the > bolic1 > > > > :: THANKS, WAVES AND CHEERS > > Thanks to the many people developing day by day the whole GNU/Linux > system, > they are thousands all around the world and it is impossible to > include all > of them here. ONE LOVE! > > Special Thanks to the OpenMosix project, Tom and the Blender crew, > Salsaman > for his valuable developments on LiVES, Dmp for the suggestions > about Xbox, > the amazing PD crews, Phillip Lougher for his great results in > SquashFS 2, > Albi for his suggestions and friendship, the linux-audio-dev > programmers, > the Twibright labs for Links2, the Xiph.org foundation, the > squatters in > A'dam and all others mentioned thru past present and future > documentation of > dyne:bolic! > > Great respsct to all dyne.org hackers, the FreakNet medialab and the > autistici/inventati collective, ECN.org and italy.indymedia, the > ASCII, > the #mdp slum and the irc.freenode.net #dyne IRC channel, Metro > Olografix, > the Hackmeeting community, radio Ondarossa, New Global Vision and > the great > dynebolic mailinglist community. > > Thanks and greetings also to the individuals helping developers with > their > genuine solidarity, ospitality and humanity: Andrea Mayr, Armin > Medosh, > Jo van der Spek, Reni & Jogi, Matteo "blended" Scassa, Robert De > Geuss, > Gaby Wijers and many others understanting how much this is important > to have > keep such a project going. > > Thanks, A thousand flowers will blossom! > > > > :: DISCLAIMER > > This program is free software; you can redistribute it and/or modify > it under the terms of the GNU General Public License as published by > the Free Software Foundation; either version 2 of the License, or (at > your option) any later version. > > This program is distributed in the hope that it will be useful, but > WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of > MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. See the GNU > General Public License for more details. > > You should have received a copy of the GNU General Public License > along with this program; if not, write to: > Free Software Foundation, Inc., 675 Mass Ave, Cambridge, MA 02139, > USA. > > Several redistributed binaries are copyrighted by the respective > authors, > it is documented in the accompanying manual of the distribution. > > dyne.org is available to provide the source of the included binaries > upon request, all the included software can be redistributed under > the > terms of the GNU GPL license and, in some cases, the X/BSD license. > > For more informations refer to the web pages on http://dynebolic.org > > > > > - -- > jaromil, dyne.org rasta coder, http://rastasoft.org > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Cryptographically signed mail, see http://gnupg.org > > iD8DBQFB2ZcCWLCC1ltubZcRAjbjAKCPLacZiLZpPWMNqAQsTKX9BQHwBACdGJUT > z7R+4UTYKrUEy9HiS6rieAQ= > =ttar > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Jan 3 20:03:38 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33665-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.112]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 03 Jan 2005 15:03:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 03 Jan 2005 15:03:38 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 52773 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 03 Jan 2005 20:03:34 +0000 Received: (qmail 52763 invoked from network); Mon, 03 Jan 2005 20:03:33 +0000 Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2005 21:03:11 +0100 From: derek holzer <xxxxx@x-x.xxx> Subject: [microsound] dyne:bolic 1.4 codename LUMUMBA To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@x-x.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041206) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [spectre] dyne:bolic 1.4 codename LUMUMBA Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 20:03:30 +0100 From: jaromil <xxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx> Organization: rastasoft.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 annunciazio'! annunciazio'! pepperepe'! pepperepe'! dyne.org productions proudly present: 8 8 8 o 8 8 8 .oPYo8 o o odYo. .oPYo. 88 8oPYo. .oPYo. 8 o8 .oPYo. 8 8 8 8 8' `8 8oooo8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 ' 8 8 8 8 8 8 8. 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 . `YooP' `YooP8 8 8 `Yooo' 88 `YooP' `YooP' 8 8 `YooP' :.....::....8 ..::..:.....:..::.....::.....:..:..:.....: :::::::::ooP'.:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: :::::::::...:::::: version 1.4 :: codename LUMUMBA ::::: 100% FREE MULTIMEDIA GNU/LINUX OPERATING SYSTEM RASTA SOFTWARE FOR THE FREEDOM OF CREATION the complete system is free to download and copy, go on ____ _ http://dynebolic.org _ _____ ___ __ http://dynebolic.org __ ____ __ ___ http://dynebolic.org ___ ___ _ ____ http://dynebolic.org ____ __ and redempt yourself from closed source software ISO CD image of 610Mbytes :: WHAT IS DYNE:BOLIC ? Dyne:bolic GNU/Linux is a live bootable cd, containing a whole operating system that works straight from boot, without the need to install or change anything on the hard disk. If you like and want to have it on harddisk you can simply copy the /dyne directory on your computer: the simpliest installation ever! Dyne:bolic is user-friendly: recognizes your hardware devices (sound, video, firewire, and USB), and offers a VAST range of free software applications for multimedia production, audio and video manipulation, sound composition and synthesis, 3D modeling, photography, peer2peer filesharing, web browsing, desktop publishing, word processing, cd burning, email, encryption, remote conferencing, funky games, a world atlas navigator and even more. Advanced features include: a complete environment with the most advanced multimedia applications available on GNU/Linux, automatic clustering joining the CPU power between any other dyne:bolic on the local network, capability to work well on old PC (Pentium1 64Mb) and even XBOX game consoles, support to save and encrypt personal data and settings on a usb key. Dyne:bolic is shaped on the needs of media activists and artists to promote free speech as a tool for the production and not only the fruition of digital and analog informations. It takes birth as a grassroot effort to spread free software and the spirit of sharing information and knowledge. for more information see: http://dynebolic.dyne.org/index.php?show=features with screenshots http://dynebolic.dyne.org/index.php?show=press past reviews http://dynebolic.dyne.org/index.php?show=docs the manual and wiki :: WHAT'S NEW IN THIS RELEASE? This release provides a major upgrade to software included and adds new useful applications, plus fixes some important outstanding bugs. Since the enormous success of the previous release, the suggestions of a growing number of users and the dedication of currently active developers Jaromil and Smilzo lead to this very stable release. Everyone is encouraged to upgrade! here the complete ChangeLog: = 1.4 major update "LUMUMBA" - Pure Data equipped with all major extensions: PDP, PiDiP, RRadical, grid, pique, bonk, choice, fiddle, freeverb, zexy, GEM-0.90, OSC and more (10x to Aymeric, Derek, Frank, Yves, Tom and PD!) - Blender-2.33a + Yafray-0.0.7 + Python game engine - LiVES 0.9.1 with Ogg/Theora and _many_ other codecs! - FreeJ-0.7.1 "BIKO" - RASTASOFTWARE! console remote controller (VJ over Ethernet) and Procedural Video Scripting: evolution from NLE systems - updated Linux 2.4.26, Alsa, OpenMosix and SquashFS-2.1 with improved efficience and wider device support including Zoran devices and most video boards - Xbox support up to recent versions and cromwell bios - Python is included with GUI extensions - Fix to modem connection, now fully functional - new software: Jamin-0.8, InkScape-0.39, poedit-1.2.5, KPhone-4.0.2, TimeMachine-0.2.4, tftp-hpa-0.38, Bomb-1.26, Pure-Ftpd-1.0.20, mlDonkey-2.5.22, Circle-0.41c, Aqualung-0.9b2, FLAC-1.1, iftop-0.17p1, Emacs-21.3, Seq24-0.5.2, Thunderbird-1.0, Chestnut-dialer-0.1, libtheora-1.0a4 - Mobilemesh wireless adaptive routing daemon see /usr/mobilemesh (10x to Elektra) - updated software: FreeJ-0.7.1, MuSE-0.9.1, ImageMagick-6, LADSPA, Jack-0.98.1, Blender-2.33a, Cinelerra-1.2.1, Gaim-1.0, GQview-1.4.3, isolinux 2.10, GEM-0.90, pd-0.37-4, Audacity-1.2.2, LiVES-0.9.1, BlueFish-0.13, EffecTV-0.3.9, MPlayer-1.0pre5, QJackCtl-0.2.10, Hydrogen-0.9, SDL-1.2.7, png-1.2.7, Xfe-0.72, libFOX-1.2.9, Firefox-1.0, Rezound-0.11.1beta, ogg-1.1.1, vorbis-1.0.1, Hydrogen-0.9.1, mjpegtools-1.6.2 - new games: Eboard, Racer and Eat The Whistle! tk-solitaire and Starfighter-1.1.1 plus the juicy updates for Wesnoth-0.8.6 - more documentation in the dynebolic user's manual - lectrobrain :: thk03 In case you have a DOCK (/dyne directory copied in your harddisk) you should upgrade it by using the one in this release - or when you boot the CD just answer YES when you'll be prompted to upgrade. : THIS IS RASTA SOFTWARE ! This software is about Resistance ina babylon world which tries to control and limit the way we communicate and we share informations and knowledge. This software is for all those who don't want to afford the latest expensive hardware to speak out their words of consciousness and good will, still offering a complete operating system with more features than some other proprietary system affected by viruses and full of spyware. This software is free, Jah Rastafari Livity bless your freedom! You should share this software for the good of yourself and your people, respect others and let them express, be free and let others be free. You are welcome to redistribute dyne:bolic in any way you like, to your friends and neighbours, to anybody who needs or is just curious to try, as you wish. The roots of Rasta culture can be found in Resistance to slavery. This software is not a business. This software is free as of speech and is one step in the struggle for Redemption and Freedom. This software is dedicated to the memory of Patrice Lumumba, Marcus Garvey, Marthin Luther King, Steve Biko, Walter Rodney, Malcom X, Mumia Abu Jamal and all those who still resist to slavery, racism and oppression, who still fight imperialism and seek an alternative to the egemony of capitalism in our World. :: CONTRIBUTE TO DYNE:BOLIC ! IF dyne:bolic can be useful for you, you can also be useful to dyne:bolic! consider the possibility to get involved with development, contribute artwork and ideas, help with debugging and documenting and anything else can come to you in mind. ->>>> BUG REPORT ONLINE INTERFACE: http://bugs.dyne.org ->>>> JOIN OUR MAILINGLIST: mailto:xxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx ->>>> CONTRIBUTE DOCUMENTATION: http://lab.dyne.org/DyneBolic (wiki) Furthermore, please consider that the dyne:bolic project is an indypendent effort relying on support from non-profit, grant-making and business organizations willing to sustain development of free and opensource software like this. Dyne:bolic relies on support from individuals like you to preserve, protect and promote the freedom it gives to its users. This new release opens a donation round which is much needed at the moment so please show your appreciation with a small act of generosity! thanks! :: GET SUPPORT AND CUSTOMIZED VERSIONS The dyne:bolic team is also offering commercial support: we can provide workshops, consulting services, customisations, setup and warranty for fitness to a particular purpose. If you need commercial support on dyne:bolic this is the way you can be 100% sure it will work for you. In fact, this is the sustainable model we are building around dyne:bolic to support our development and further research: we are following the best knowledge here principle and offer customisation and special support packages. For more informations see http://dynebolic.dyne.org/index.php?show=cust and our workshop offer http://dynebolic.dyne.org/index.php?show=workshop :: DEVELOPERS TEAM Denis "Jaromil" Rojo - mantainer of dyne:bolic, HasciiCam MuSE and FreeJ Alex "Smilzo" Gnoli - mantainer of the Xbox dynebolic kernel Silvano "Kysucix" Galliani - developer of FreeJ Antonino "Nightolo" Radici, Luca "Rubik" Profico and Angelo "Pallotron" Failla - developers of MuSE Federico "Bomboclat" Prando and Francesco "C1cc10" Rana for the bolic1 :: THANKS, WAVES AND CHEERS Thanks to the many people developing day by day the whole GNU/Linux system, they are thousands all around the world and it is impossible to include all of them here. ONE LOVE! Special Thanks to the OpenMosix project, Tom and the Blender crew, Salsaman for his valuable developments on LiVES, Dmp for the suggestions about Xbox, the amazing PD crews, Phillip Lougher for his great results in SquashFS 2, Albi for his suggestions and friendship, the linux-audio-dev programmers, the Twibright labs for Links2, the Xiph.org foundation, the squatters in A'dam and all others mentioned thru past present and future documentation of dyne:bolic! Great respsct to all dyne.org hackers, the FreakNet medialab and the autistici/inventati collective, ECN.org and italy.indymedia, the ASCII, the #mdp slum and the irc.freenode.net #dyne IRC channel, Metro Olografix, the Hackmeeting community, radio Ondarossa, New Global Vision and the great dynebolic mailinglist community. Thanks and greetings also to the individuals helping developers with their genuine solidarity, ospitality and humanity: Andrea Mayr, Armin Medosh, Jo van der Spek, Reni & Jogi, Matteo "blended" Scassa, Robert De Geuss, Gaby Wijers and many others understanting how much this is important to have keep such a project going. Thanks, A thousand flowers will blossom! :: DISCLAIMER This program is free software; you can redistribute it and/or modify it under the terms of the GNU General Public License as published by the Free Software Foundation; either version 2 of the License, or (at your option) any later version. This program is distributed in the hope that it will be useful, but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. See the GNU General Public License for more details. You should have received a copy of the GNU General Public License along with this program; if not, write to: Free Software Foundation, Inc., 675 Mass Ave, Cambridge, MA 02139, USA. Several redistributed binaries are copyrighted by the respective authors, it is documented in the accompanying manual of the distribution. dyne.org is available to provide the source of the included binaries upon request, all the included software can be redistributed under the terms of the GNU GPL license and, in some cases, the X/BSD license. For more informations refer to the web pages on http://dynebolic.org - -- jaromil, dyne.org rasta coder, http://rastasoft.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Cryptographically signed mail, see http://gnupg.org iD8DBQFB2ZcCWLCC1ltubZcRAjbjAKCPLacZiLZpPWMNqAQsTKX9BQHwBACdGJUT z7R+4UTYKrUEy9HiS6rieAQ= =ttar -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Jan 3 18:47:09 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33664-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 03 Jan 2005 13:47:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 03 Jan 2005 13:47:09 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 25249 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 03 Jan 2005 18:47:06 +0000 Received: (qmail 25239 invoked from network); Mon, 03 Jan 2005 18:47:06 +0000 Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2005 18:46:19 +0000 From: scott allison <xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] bit rate dropping In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx> X-Originating-IP: [68.165.209.33] X-Sender: xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Bcc: Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Originating-Email: [xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Jan 2005 18:47:01.0335 (UTC) FILETIME=[9C6ADE70:01C4F1C4] Also of note is the free VST plug by Tom Erbe and Akria Rabeilas "+decimate" for bit depth and sample rate reduction. http://www.soundhack.com/freeware.php There are versions for both PC and Mac, so it should work within Audiomulch, but you will have to find something to control speed of bit depth transition, maybe Audiomulch has an assingable enevlope? You could possibly do it manually via midi. Best Scott Allison >try pluggo's 'degrader' in tandem with jhno's 'LFO'. >>>does anyone know if there is a plug in for audiomulch that will >>>drop a wavs bit rate slowly over a long period of time. >>>-thaniel ion lee//bridlewire >>or any plugin that works with wavelab or nuendo that drops >>bitrates? --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Jan 3 17:17:32 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33663-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 03 Jan 2005 12:17:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 03 Jan 2005 12:17:32 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 96926 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 03 Jan 2005 17:17:27 +0000 Received: (qmail 96913 invoked from network); Mon, 03 Jan 2005 17:17:26 +0000 Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2005 12:19:21 -0500 From: tkrakowiak <xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] bit rate dropping In-reply-to: <p05210600bdfe71ba57b2@[64.63.223.117]> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Opera M2/7.54 (FreeBSD, build 751) X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <p05210600bdfe71ba57b2@[64.63.223.117]> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx try pluggo's 'degrader' in tandem with jhno's 'LFO'. best, t On Sun, 2 Jan 2005 23:15:32 -0500, chthonic streams <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote: >> does anyone know if there is a plug in for audiomulch that will drop a >> wavs bit rate slowly over a long period of time. >> -thaniel ion lee//bridlewire > > or any plugin that works with wavelab or nuendo that drops bitrates? > > > d. > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Jan 3 04:55:31 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33662-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 02 Jan 2005 23:55:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 02 Jan 2005 23:55:30 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 82299 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 03 Jan 2005 04:55:30 +0000 Received: (qmail 82289 invoked from network); Mon, 03 Jan 2005 04:55:30 +0000 Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2005 05:55:34 +0100 From: uzekt <xxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] hello To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <020f01c4f150$75e6bc70$xxxxxxxx@xxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_lUi0vBE202NYtCRo81WunQ)" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_lUi0vBE202NYtCRo81WunQ) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit hello, i have just 2 little message : happy new year 2005 !!! good health , good job , good luck , money....... and respect for son,boys,girls....!!!!!! and it's possible for you: Help those affected by this recent tragedy in Asia. 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Mon Jan 3 03:59:34 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33661-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.110]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 02 Jan 2005 22:59:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 02 Jan 2005 22:59:34 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 66545 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 03 Jan 2005 03:59:33 +0000 Received: (qmail 66535 invoked from network); Mon, 03 Jan 2005 03:59:33 +0000 Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2005 23:15:32 -0500 From: chthonic streams <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] bit rate dropping In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.x et> X-Sender: chthonic%xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxx.xxxxxxxxxx.xxx To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <p05210600bdfe71ba57b2@[64.63.223.117]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.x et> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >does anyone know if there is a plug in for audiomulch that will drop >a wavs bit rate slowly over a long period of time. >-thaniel ion lee//bridlewire or any plugin that works with wavelab or nuendo that drops bitrates? d. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Jan 3 03:21:17 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33660-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.109]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 02 Jan 2005 22:21:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 02 Jan 2005 22:21:17 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 57871 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 03 Jan 2005 03:21:13 +0000 Received: (qmail 57861 invoked from network); Mon, 03 Jan 2005 03:21:13 +0000 Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2005 03:20:51 +0000 From: xxxxxxx@xxx.xxx Subject: [microsound] bit rate dropping To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx), xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx), xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx (xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx) Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xet> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Oct 18 2004) Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_pPehpFgbUgXGmeVFxNwTxg)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Authenticated-Sender: dGlvbmxlZUBhdHQubmV0 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_pPehpFgbUgXGmeVFxNwTxg) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit does anyone know if there is a plug in for audiomulch that will drop a wavs bit rate slowly over a long period of time. -thaniel ion lee//bridlewire --Boundary_(ID_pPehpFgbUgXGmeVFxNwTxg)-- From ???@??? Sun Jan 2 21:21:31 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33659-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 02 Jan 2005 16:21:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 02 Jan 2005 16:21:31 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 62714 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 02 Jan 2005 21:21:29 +0000 Received: (qmail 62704 invoked from network); Sun, 02 Jan 2005 21:21:29 +0000 Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2005 16:21:19 -0500 (EST) From: xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx Subject: Re: [microsound] sound art exhibition in Paris To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xx.xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5003 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_Nug6CYBcqBhHcYJMB+Z5Hg)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_Nug6CYBcqBhHcYJMB+Z5Hg) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit hello t. p. your report is excellent. Then a room quite hypnotising, with, placed in the center, a light turning on itself, screening violent light forms on the walls, turning very fast (some kind of cop cars or ambulance's light, you say "gyrophare" in french), and whith some kind of bass and gapped white noise : quite fascinating, yes, it was the voice of raoul hausmann passed through an analog synthesizer, it's taken from the "poèmes phonétiques". you can hear the original at _www.ubu.com_ (http://www.ubu.com) : _http://www.epc.buffalo.edu/sound/mp3/sp/artist_tellus/04_hausmann.mp3_ (http://www.epc.buffalo.edu/sound/mp3/sp/artist_tellus/04_hausmann.mp3) but after that was a room more and more fascinating ; a room by La Monte Young, called "the dream house", and it was my prefered room, an amazing and very peaceful room. cheers and bonne année à tous, e. [ http://xstreamradio.free.fr ] [ Now playing: Experimental and Electronic music ] --Boundary_(ID_Nug6CYBcqBhHcYJMB+Z5Hg)-- From ???@??? Sun Jan 2 19:37:10 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33658-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.112]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 02 Jan 2005 14:37:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 02 Jan 2005 14:37:10 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 35899 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 02 Jan 2005 19:37:06 +0000 Received: (qmail 35888 invoked from network); Sun, 02 Jan 2005 19:37:06 +0000 Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2005 11:37:02 -0800 From: Kim Cascone <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] [ot] treacherous computing - must read! To: microsound_list <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Loop-Detect: 1 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx a very enlightening and informative read...it is yet another reason to adopt a FOSS model early so the corporations have a harder time locking us all into their ecosystem... http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~rja14/tcpa-faq.html > People believed that the GPL made it impossible for a company to come > along and steal code that was the result of community effort. This > helped make people willing to give up their spare time to write free > software for the communal benefit. But TC changes that. Once the > majority of PCs on the market are TC-enabled, the GPL won't work as > intended. The benefit for Microsoft is not that this will destroy free > software directly. The point is this: once people realise that even > GPL'led software can be hijacked for commercial purposes, idealistic > young programmers will be much less motivated to write free software. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Jan 2 19:01:02 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33657-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 02 Jan 2005 14:01:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 02 Jan 2005 14:01:02 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 23142 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 02 Jan 2005 19:01:00 +0000 Received: (qmail 23132 invoked from network); Sun, 02 Jan 2005 19:00:59 +0000 Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2005 10:38:56 -0800 From: Kim Cascone <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] hotline To: microsound_list <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Loop-Detect: 1 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx I am taking an hour or so on this rainy northern Californian morning to assign hotline server passwords to microsound members...I have my PitbullPro Admin panel up and ready for creating new accounts...sorry I have been flaky with this but last year was brutal as far as travel goes and I have been going non-stop since returning to the US just before the holidays... !contact me OFF LIST NOW for a hotline account! happy new year to all! :) xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Jan 2 15:42:17 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33656-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 02 Jan 2005 10:42:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 02 Jan 2005 10:42:16 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 74792 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 02 Jan 2005 15:42:14 +0000 Received: (qmail 74782 invoked from network); Sun, 02 Jan 2005 15:42:14 +0000 Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2005 16:45:22 +0100 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Th=E9ophraste_Peeble?= <xxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] sound art exhibition in Paris To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <000701c4f0e2$17a23cc0$xxxxxxxx@xxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@x-x.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx I live in Paris so I got the chance to see this exposition, which seemed to me really complete : it begins with the work of different painters on experimenting how to represent sound with paintings (I remember some really great Kandinsky's works - as I generally do not appreciate very much what he does), after the same problem is treated, but with videos (I particularly loved one with colored shapes moving very slowly - just like some constellation photos - and one with black & white's geometrical figures quickly metamorphosing into other figures). After that, I think there was some rooms dedicated to the early research on audio synthesis. Then a room quite hypnotising, with, placed in the center, a light turning on itself, screening violent light forms on the walls, turning very fast (some kind of cop cars or ambulance's light, you say "gyrophare" in french), and whith some kind of bass and gapped white noise : quite fascinating, but after that was a room more and more fascinating ; a room by La Monte Young, called "the dream house", all lighten in red and blue, so the room seemed purple, but looking from some angles you could see objects and people encircled by red or blue lines - really strange. The floor was "encarpeted", in order that people could lye or sleep here - what I did during a long hour ; and, very relaxing, two loud speakers were diffusing evolving white noise (nothing recorded, the sound was generated in real time)... I won't speak longer & longer about this exposition, but, there was also : some videos about John Cage's work, a room dedicated to the italian futurists (particularly Luigi Russolo and his manifest "the Art of Noises" - also reproductions of his "intonarumori" : his noise machines), a large room for the Fluxus movement, and videos of their performances, and, finally (but I didn't described the half) a surprising installation, in the middle of a room, a colored smoke diffuser, with Erik Satie's music... t. p. ----- Original Message ----- From: derek holzer <xxxxx@x-x.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2005 3:18 PM Subject: [microsound] sound art exhibition in Paris > Did anyone get a chance to see the "Sons & Lumières, A history of sound > in 20th Century art" at the Centre Pompidou in Paris? I just don't think > I'll be able to get down there before it close [um, tomorrow!] > > I did see the catalog, and it looks incredible. An amazing historical > overview from painting to Fluxus to video art related to sound. Not too > much info on the Pompidou website, but worth doing some research on. > > http://tinyurl.com/4bwp9 > > If any microsounders did get to see it, I'd love to hear some feedback! > > happy new year, > d. > > > > -- > derek holzer ::: http://www.umatic.nl > ---Oblique Strategy # 36: > "Consult other sources > -promising > -unpromising" > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Jan 2 15:38:23 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33655-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 02 Jan 2005 10:38:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 02 Jan 2005 10:38:23 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 73558 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 02 Jan 2005 15:38:19 +0000 Received: (qmail 73548 invoked from network); Sun, 02 Jan 2005 15:38:19 +0000 Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2005 07:38:17 -0800 From: Phil Thomson <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Fwd: Hugh Davies RIP In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xx.xx> To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: Phil Thomson <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=C4hh/szlMRKNRUGKnxTJNFpyGyWrFoukYk8cSblv7BG6Bb7xpQGsIkUWQnFJ1aLqRqRNWsZ1yQk1PbrioP/3HpmJAMAQKu209fQb1vjoalbW5qqShuOauqAW3hIwLncGF1dDqGR4OdvayN0Km7I1wo1yY5wUXgKGWS65Ry41YjI= X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xx.xx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: lawrence casserley Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2004 15:21:02 +0000 Subject: Hugh Davies To: "xxx-xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx" <xxx-xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> I just received the following from David Toop: Hugh Davies Sad news: Hugh Davies died on the 1st January, 2005. Born in 1943, Hugh was a pioneer of live electronic music, an inventor of musical instruments, a composer, educator, and renowned researcher into the history of electronic music. An assistant to Karlheinz Stockhausen from 1964 to 1966, he participated in the recording of Stockhausen's Mikrophonie I in 1965. Other recordings included wonderful LPs by Music Improvisation Company and Gentle Fire, and his solo albums for FMP and Grob. Anybody involved in live electronics, electronic improvisation, hardware hacking, or, come to that, anybody who needs a table in order to be able to perform, owes a debt to Hugh. He will be sadly missed. No doubt a more detailed tribute will appear soon, but I wanted to express my shock and deep sorrow for a greatly valued colleague and friend, whom I have known and worked with for many years. Lawrence Lawrence Casserley - xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xx.xx Lawrence Electronic Operations - www.lcasserley.co.uk Colourscape Music Festivals - www.colourscape.org.uk -- Phil Thomson xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx { home: http://www.sfu.ca/~pthomson/ { blog: http://pthomson.blogspot.com/ { blog: http://www.bloglines.com/blog/PhilThomson { host: http://philbook.homeunix.org:90/ { radio: http://philbook.homeunix.org:8000/ { label: http://centibel.org/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Jan 2 15:37:33 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33654-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.113]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 02 Jan 2005 10:37:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 02 Jan 2005 10:37:33 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 72562 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 02 Jan 2005 15:37:29 +0000 Received: (qmail 72552 invoked from network); Sun, 02 Jan 2005 15:37:29 +0000 Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2005 10:37:21 -0500 From: Sabastian Boaz <xxxx@xxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] OT: Newton OS MIDI Sequencer? In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Cc: devslashnull <xxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx There is a midi Player out there, somewhere... You use an old macintosh adb midi interface. I've meant to do this before with my newton but it was too much work to get the midi file onto the newton. Sabastian On Jan 1, 2005, at 8:35 PM, devslashnull wrote: > Hey List, > > tech question: > > does anyone know of a simple sequencing app that will output MIDI via > the built-in serial port on the Newton Message Pad 110? > > i've been looking and nothing has turned up. > > CommTom > Communications of Tomorrow > "it's only a day away" > > unique electronic music for the adventurous ear. > > http://www.commtom.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Jan 2 14:18:37 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33653-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 02 Jan 2005 09:18:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 02 Jan 2005 09:18:37 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 60406 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 02 Jan 2005 14:18:34 +0000 Received: (qmail 60396 invoked from network); Sun, 02 Jan 2005 14:18:33 +0000 Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2005 15:18:02 +0100 From: derek holzer <xxxxx@x-x.xxx> Subject: [microsound] sound art exhibition in Paris In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@x-x.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-Accept-Language: en Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041206) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Did anyone get a chance to see the "Sons & Lumières, A history of sound in 20th Century art" at the Centre Pompidou in Paris? I just don't think I'll be able to get down there before it close [um, tomorrow!] I did see the catalog, and it looks incredible. An amazing historical overview from painting to Fluxus to video art related to sound. Not too much info on the Pompidou website, but worth doing some research on. http://tinyurl.com/4bwp9 If any microsounders did get to see it, I'd love to hear some feedback! happy new year, d. -- derek holzer ::: http://www.umatic.nl ---Oblique Strategy # 36: "Consult other sources -promising -unpromising" --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Jan 2 13:05:57 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33652-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.82]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 02 Jan 2005 08:05:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 02 Jan 2005 08:05:57 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 51521 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 02 Jan 2005 13:05:53 +0000 Received: (qmail 51511 invoked from network); Sun, 02 Jan 2005 13:05:53 +0000 Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2005 08:05:51 -0500 From: John Nowak <xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] How to record 96kHz audio (OT) In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx On Jan 1, 2005, at 6:25 PM, jan.larsson wrote: >> One obvious reason to use higher sampling rates is if you want to >> play something back at half or quarter speed. > Only if you have ultrasonic content. 96 does not give you nearly > enough bandwidth to work with ultrasonics. Go for 384. Why's that? It would seem that playing a sound recorded at 88.2 at half speed would essentially give you a sample rate of 44.1 without interpolation. It would sound better than playing a 44.1 file at half speed, essentially giving you a SR of 22.05, no? I was thinking the same thing as Tim at least. - John --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Jan 2 09:56:50 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33651-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.110]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 02 Jan 2005 04:56:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 02 Jan 2005 04:56:50 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 25548 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 02 Jan 2005 09:56:51 +0000 Received: (qmail 25538 invoked from network); Sun, 02 Jan 2005 09:56:51 +0000 Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2005 01:46:44 -0800 From: nathand <xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] new years release (6 tracks) To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (X11/20040913) X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx some work from the past year -- improv/sequenced. more coming soon. http://patternmedia.com/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Jan 2 01:34:34 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33650-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 01 Jan 2005 20:34:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 01 Jan 2005 20:34:34 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 20233 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 02 Jan 2005 01:34:33 +0000 Received: (qmail 20223 invoked from network); Sun, 02 Jan 2005 01:34:33 +0000 Date: Sat, 01 Jan 2005 18:35:53 -0700 From: devslashnull <xxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] OT: Newton OS MIDI Sequencer? To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.553) Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_KJL9trnt+20RKfBiPKfHJA)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_KJL9trnt+20RKfBiPKfHJA) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey List, tech question: does anyone know of a simple sequencing app that will output MIDI via the built-in serial port on the Newton Message Pad 110? i've been looking and nothing has turned up. CommTom Communications of Tomorrow "it's only a day away" unique electronic music for the adventurous ear. http://www.commtom.com --Boundary_(ID_KJL9trnt+20RKfBiPKfHJA)-- From ???@??? Sun Jan 2 01:34:04 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33649-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.86]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 01 Jan 2005 20:34:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 01 Jan 2005 20:34:03 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 19263 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 02 Jan 2005 01:34:02 +0000 Received: (qmail 19242 invoked from network); Sun, 02 Jan 2005 01:34:02 +0000 Date: Sat, 01 Jan 2005 18:35:22 -0700 From: devslashnull <xxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] OT: Newton OS MIDI Sequencer? To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.553) Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_FsJNo5WfyP0sTlfMIaOVAw)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_FsJNo5WfyP0sTlfMIaOVAw) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey List, tech question: does anyone know of a simple sequencing app that will output MIDI via the built-in serial port on the Newton Message Pad 110? i've been looking and nothing has turned up. CommTom Communications of Tomorrow "it's only a day away" unique electronic music for the adventurous ear. http://www.commtom.com --Boundary_(ID_FsJNo5WfyP0sTlfMIaOVAw)-- From ???@??? Sat Jan 1 23:25:57 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33648-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 01 Jan 2005 18:25:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 01 Jan 2005 18:25:57 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 82984 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 01 Jan 2005 23:25:55 +0000 Received: (qmail 82973 invoked from network); Sat, 01 Jan 2005 23:25:55 +0000 Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2005 00:25:49 +0100 From: "jan.larsson" <xx@xxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] How to record 96kHz audio (OT) In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-Originating-IP: 83.227.119.238 To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Mail-Handler: MailHop Outbound by DynDNS.org X-Report-Abuse-To: xxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx (see http://www.mailhop.org/outbound/abuse.html for abuse reporting information) X-MHO-User: mockba X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Only if you have ultrasonic content. 96 does not give you nearly enough bandwidth to work with ultrasonics. Go for 384. 2005-01-01 kl. 23.26 skrev Tim Walters: > One obvious reason to use higher sampling rates is if you want to play > something back at half or quarter speed. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Jan 1 23:07:42 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33647-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 01 Jan 2005 18:07:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 01 Jan 2005 18:07:42 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 78384 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 01 Jan 2005 23:07:41 +0000 Received: (qmail 78371 invoked from network); Sat, 01 Jan 2005 23:07:41 +0000 Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2005 00:08:02 +0100 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F6rn_Eriksson?= <xxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] convert ogg files to mp3 To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <013c01c4f056$bf92f730$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2527 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=response Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> <a06100505bdfb88c7044b@[10.0.1.3]> <050c01c4efba$20d2fbf0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Audacity will do the job on windows, mac or linux. Open ogg file and export as mp3. CDex (only for pc unfortunately) also does the job but you need an extra step to convert to wav first. Both are freeware and open source. http://audacity.sourceforge.net/ http://cdexos.sourceforge.net/ Yours, Björn ----- Original Message ----- From: "roberth" <xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> To: "microsound" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2005 5:26 AM Subject: [microsound] convert ogg files to mp3 > > can anyone point me to a good shareware for converting ogg files to mp3 > files? > i have tried downloading a few encoders ( don't support ogg) and a ripper > (will only do it from a cd) > happy new year > robert > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Jan 1 22:26:03 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33646-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.110]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 01 Jan 2005 17:26:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 01 Jan 2005 17:26:02 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 69235 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 01 Jan 2005 22:25:57 +0000 Received: (qmail 69222 invoked from network); Sat, 01 Jan 2005 22:25:57 +0000 Date: Sat, 01 Jan 2005 14:26:34 -0800 From: Tim Walters <xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] How to record 96kHz audio (OT) In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> X-Originating-IP: 68.164.184.107 To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.609) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-ELNK-Trace: a26c1ae04cc1c36db496ec42ea783ef240683398e744b8a4aba71b51736b3b0137d4183c937a7928350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx One obvious reason to use higher sampling rates is if you want to play something back at half or quarter speed. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Jan 1 20:08:28 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33645-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.114]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 01 Jan 2005 15:08:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 01 Jan 2005 15:08:28 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 18671 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 01 Jan 2005 20:08:27 +0000 Received: (qmail 18661 invoked from network); Sat, 01 Jan 2005 20:08:26 +0000 Date: Sat, 01 Jan 2005 21:08:22 +0100 From: "jan.larsson" <xx@xxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] How to record 96kHz audio (OT) In-reply-to: <000601c4f03c$5c64cb30$xxxxxxxx@xxxxx> X-Originating-IP: 83.227.119.238 To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Mail-Handler: MailHop Outbound by DynDNS.org X-Report-Abuse-To: xxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx (see http://www.mailhop.org/outbound/abuse.html for abuse reporting information) X-MHO-User: mockba X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> <000601c4f03c$5c64cb30$xxxxxxxx@xxxxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx As Owen wrote, you can upsample locally in the software to handle special cases that would benefit from 96, 192, 384 or higher rates. No need to run the complete system at high rates. My hardware protools can run at 96 and 192 kbps without extra cpu-load on the computer but I'm back now using 44kbps (24-bit). 2005-01-01 kl. 20.59 skrev Joakim Lindén: > Recording no, I don't think so, but synthesis at higher rates sound > much clearer to me... Probably because of aliasing of the oscillators. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Owen Green" > <x.x.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> > To: "microsound" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> > Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2005 3:17 PM > Subject: Re: [microsound] How to record 96kHz audio (OT) > > >> chthonic wrote: >>> this may be a bit OT, but does anyone have an opinion on 88.1kHz or >>> 96kHz recording as opposed to 44.1 or 48? >> >> The only unequivocal advantage to working up there (that I know of) >> is to push artifacts from certain processes outside the audio band >> (compression and filtering most conspicuously). In which case you can >> always upsample before processing and come down again. AFAIK there >> have been no reliable blind tests demonstrating intrinsically better >> sound quality from high sampling rates (though, depending on your >> converters, YMMV). >> >> Using a 24-bit word length from the get-go, OTOH, is definitely worth >> it; I tend to work at 24/44.1. >> >> HTH >> Owen --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Jan 1 19:58:56 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33644-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 01 Jan 2005 14:58:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 01 Jan 2005 14:58:56 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 14412 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 01 Jan 2005 19:58:54 +0000 Received: (qmail 14402 invoked from network); Sat, 01 Jan 2005 19:58:54 +0000 Date: Sat, 01 Jan 2005 20:59:10 +0100 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Joakim_Lind=E9n?= <xxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] How to record 96kHz audio (OT) To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <000601c4f03c$5c64cb30$xxxxxxxx@xxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 Content-type: text/plain; reply-type=response; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Recording no, I don't think so, but synthesis at higher rates sound much clearer to me... Probably because of aliasing of the oscillators. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Owen Green" <x.x.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> To: "microsound" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2005 3:17 PM Subject: Re: [microsound] How to record 96kHz audio (OT) > chthonic wrote: >> this may be a bit OT, but does anyone have an opinion on 88.1kHz or 96kHz >> recording as opposed to 44.1 or 48? > > The only unequivocal advantage to working up there (that I know of) is to > push artifacts from certain processes outside the audio band (compression > and filtering most conspicuously). In which case you can always upsample > before processing and come down again. AFAIK there have been no reliable > blind tests demonstrating intrinsically better sound quality from high > sampling rates (though, depending on your converters, YMMV). > > Using a 24-bit word length from the get-go, OTOH, is definitely worth it; > I tend to work at 24/44.1. > > HTH > Owen > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? 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In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Cc: xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <l03130300bdfcae1fd49c@[213.84.105.55]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >Can you trust your computer? -Hopefully that question is put forward for rhetorical purposes only... 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To: microsound_list <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Loop-Detect: 1 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Can you trust your computer? by Richard Stallman http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/can-you-trust.html > Today you can avoid being restricted by proprietary software by not > using it. 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Sat Jan 1 14:17:31 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33640-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.111]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 01 Jan 2005 09:17:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 01 Jan 2005 09:17:31 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 54821 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 01 Jan 2005 14:17:28 +0000 Received: (qmail 54807 invoked from network); Sat, 01 Jan 2005 14:17:27 +0000 Date: Sat, 01 Jan 2005 14:17:21 +0000 From: Owen Green <x.x.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] How to record 96kHz audio (OT) In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (Windows/20041103) X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx chthonic wrote: > this may be a bit OT, but does anyone have an opinion on 88.1kHz > or 96kHz recording as opposed to 44.1 or 48? The only unequivocal advantage to working up there (that I know of) is to push artifacts from certain processes outside the audio band (compression and filtering most conspicuously). In which case you can always upsample before processing and come down again. AFAIK there have been no reliable blind tests demonstrating intrinsically better sound quality from high sampling rates (though, depending on your converters, YMMV). Using a 24-bit word length from the get-go, OTOH, is definitely worth it; I tend to work at 24/44.1. HTH Owen --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Jan 1 08:25:32 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33639-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 01 Jan 2005 03:25:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 01 Jan 2005 03:25:32 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 9015 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 01 Jan 2005 08:25:33 +0000 Received: (qmail 9004 invoked from network); Sat, 01 Jan 2005 08:25:32 +0000 Date: Sat, 01 Jan 2005 00:18:47 -0800 From: Phil Thomson <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] [ot] For concerned Canadian microsounders To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: Phil Thomson <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=PyQYa3JhJwbBfGqYLJdgOCF2DJKuF6tNYdn9Zk70DKptHXZhi/RrCQdV0sYfNwEJc95lBf7ezzHdKpHV7N9m/cfuHEYgRVYts0SpT6nhZgHlKfwOo1rVtA9mNA/2b//bbl/0FjzWYARddVoJAEe7fUbD5NlwJ7NqrLuH8fnFZ+o= X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx http://www.williamgibsonbooks.com/blog/2004_12_01_archive.asp#110453918782334548 "The Canadian government, until January 11th, will match any donation to major relief operations working from Canada. 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Wed Jan 12 20:16:57 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33770-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.81]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 15:16:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 12 Jan 2005 15:16:57 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 95259 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 12 Jan 2005 20:16:55 +0000 Received: (qmail 95246 invoked from network); Wed, 12 Jan 2005 20:16:55 +0000 Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2004 12:15:57 -0800 From: Bill Jarboe <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] [ot] for mac fans :-) In-reply-to: <v03110700be094a1ae8dd@[151.24.136.106]> X-Originating-IP: 4.243.33.188 To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Boundary_(ID_dAH48g1PoogdfLqUnMjEZw)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=simple; s=test1; d=earthlink.net; h=Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Message-Id:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer; b=WSe99EZaVUOPVWEi+2lQVNVZOkhmxDb0pbz5jA1HZxldAWfMm7sSFdyNmO79ZJWC; X-ELNK-Trace: f6dd78c2ac81c6498eb596e2db90c20d239a348a220c2609cf887aec20268a80e8c345a34f0bb125a2d4e88014a4647c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <v03110700be094a1ae8dd@[151.24.136.106]> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_dAH48g1PoogdfLqUnMjEZw) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit hi nicola, glad you are still kicking around rome making fun of machinery or whatever it is you are doing... moving onto more serious matters i made a translation for the ignorant masses who don't know japanese: (thanks , babelfish!) This is change of design of the nail which made the design of imac in motif. (^ ^ Either one is agreeable to the taste of everyone, probably will be? This is the tip/chip which was made on October 22nd of 99. Those which first were made with the image of imac this are. Being the color tone potato completely suitable, you think that it is recognized well that with just image makes. (^ ^ Not to be translucent white, to insert pearl white, furthermore the mark of the apple with the champagne gold the work There is a . It is the long nail. Don't you think? CM you did with such image. (^ ^ This being asked, is the item which it made. Previousi tip(selfishly designation ^. ^) Compared tointhe design of imac Close kana? The you think, but how probably will be?Colorof the indigo orange is lovely very Nut. It is the nail of of short circuit of the square. Also the tried making one next. This is itipof the bluewiththe longnail. It tried producing on March 22nd2000. Because the finger is being the one hand, 5, regrettablethe markof red It could not make. This time round being able to point to the black and appearance of new color and the change of color,the designof i-book It triedmaking in reference. You can be understood, probably will be? (^ ^ --Boundary_(ID_dAH48g1PoogdfLqUnMjEZw) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --Boundary_(ID_dAH48g1PoogdfLqUnMjEZw) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Bill direct strategy #3147: listen to bagpipes until they teach you how to be obscene. On Jan 11, 2005, at 1:18 AM, nicola catalano wrote: > http://www.geocities.co.jp/Stylish/5910/imactip.htm > --Boundary_(ID_dAH48g1PoogdfLqUnMjEZw) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org --Boundary_(ID_dAH48g1PoogdfLqUnMjEZw)-- From ???@??? Tue Jan 11 22:32:42 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-33746-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.112]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 17:32:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 11 Jan 2005 17:32:42 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 98836 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 11 Jan 2005 22:32:39 +0000 Received: (qmail 98823 invoked from network); Tue, 11 Jan 2005 22:32:39 +0000 Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2004 14:30:02 -0800 From: Bill Jarboe <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] hola In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> X-Originating-IP: 4.242.105.48 To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=simple; s=test1; d=earthlink.net; h=Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Message-Id:Content-Transfer-Encoding:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer; b=n+V88cBItItwBHIYGOh67Q0GBT+sNUGRf1gcVqFIjUjrmwWdwLNwDG5RWDULR4kb; X-ELNK-Trace: f6dd78c2ac81c6498eb596e2db90c20d239a348a220c260988bd2c2473773cf0585c037c26ee4fa5350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx hi, i really like the look of the blog. i'm not sure about the 'rere and jastino' sample , though it's a good kind of not sure. On Jan 11, 2005, at 1:35 AM, takahiro kawaguchi wrote: > hallo friends. > I newly made the homepage. The sample of some sounds is set up there. > If you check it, I might be very happy. And, to be going to keep > taking contacting with you in the future, I made these.... > > thanks > all the bests. > > check my web site > http://www.eonet.ne.jp/~rere/ > > blog > http://port.jugem.cc/ > > rere/takahiro kawaguchi > > e-mail > xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx > > Bill direct strategy # 943: talk interesting nonsense until someone forces you to stop. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org