From Peter Becker Sent Fri, Mar 19th 1999, 14:54
From Peter Becker Sent Fri, Mar 19th 1999, 14:54
I'm throwing in a resounding "me, too" with Lance on this one. Chain Reaction, even if you can't stand them, should be at least recognized as ( Lance words, mine agreed ) a "groundbreaking dance music label." The artists, with their original base in Basic Channel not only have innovated a lot of techno music but also have paved their own style and feel, which though critics have coined it as " heroin house" I would'nt say it is "sub par minimal house". I've heard *shitloads* of sub par mimimal house, and BC ain't it. What really alarms me about Joshua's 1st post (below) refelects a common insistence that if you like one kind of music, you probably would'nt like another, which is utter crap. Case here: You mention and recommend Koner's solo ambient work while dissuading a recommendation for the BC/CR work. At the closing of your email, you mention that "if your listening to the sea and cake, i don't think you want that stuff..." This, to me is frightening. I own every single solo Koner CD as it is some of my favorite current ambient music. I rave it and recommend it to the ambient list on occasion when his name comes up. I also have enjoyed and have picked up as much BC/CR as I can (afford) over the years as I see it as an incredible sound and an invaluable body of work. I also, just last year... a bit late, discovered The Sea and Cake and found them to be most enjoyable. Have I broken some rule where if you like one thing you can't like another unless it's the same style of music? Yes, Lance, to dismiss a label for not releasing the style you like is ignorant. and Joshua, to dismiss the possibility that a person might not like BC/CR because they like Sea and Cake is even *more* ignorant. Nothing personal, Joshua but open up a bit. I'm not insisting that you like BC/CR at all. Hey, idm listers even have the right to hate Autechre...: ) Right? Peter > Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 20:28:46 -0500 From: Lance C McGannon <xxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: (idm) re: porter ricks... I couldnt disagree more with you Joshua. Chain Reaction is a groundbreaking dance music label. Chain Reaction, and it's earlier incarnation Basic Channel, are so influentional and original that they have founded their own genre of techno. Releases by Porter Ricks, Scion, Monolake, Various Artists, Vainqueur, and Substance are mainstays in the recordboxes of most of today's better djs. I can see since you favor the Thomas Koner solo stuff you probably like more ambient or experimental stuff. But to dismiss the label as a sub-par minimal house because the label doesnt release records in the style you like is just plain ignorant. > > Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 19:44:45 -0400 From: Joshua Reuven <xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: (idm) re: porter ricks... personally, i think chain reaction is a very mediocre label that has one or two good acts. the compilation is quite horrible. biokinetics is alright, and if you like porter ricks, i would go for that as opposed to the comp, which is fairly terrible. Personally, i prefer thomas koners solo stuff to porter ricks...it's far superior...get "teimo/permafrost"... the majority of the chain reaction stuff tends to be very sub-par minimal house music...and if your listening to the sea and cake, i don't think you want that stuff... hope this helps, - -joshua... >