Re: (idm) []pusher & recommendations

From the Quaternions
Sent Wed, Jul 7th 1999, 16:01

> 
> i'm still waiting for the first electronic free jazz record.  now _that_
> would be going where electronic music doesn't usually go.

While I can't think of many off the top of my head, there are plenty of
experimental works that mix free jazz and electronics. Stuff with Ikue
Mori and the Tzadik label, maybe Orchestra 33.3 (haven't heard it for a
while so I might be wrong), and plenty of others. Only problem is, they
"aren't" IDM. Free jazz is usually not dancable and pretty
random-feeling/abrasive, and so are the electronics that accompany it.
Thus, it doesn't have the pulse that usally accompanies even the weirdest
so-called IDM (Mego, etc. excluded), and it doesn't get brought up on
this list. Any recommendations?

It does annoy me that when I hear "jazzy" in a description of IDM, I can
almost invariably be right in my guess that the jazz referred to is either
lite jazz or fusion. I guess lite jazz does have a history of accompanying
certain kinds of dance musics--house, soul, etc., but that doesn't mean
it should remain THE definition of IDM jazz. Even Amon Tobin cut up old
jazz, instead of interesting new stuff. No one seems willing to try
something different.
 
Sam