From GamePrg. Sent Fri, Jul 10th 1998, 00:38
From GamePrg. Sent Fri, Jul 10th 1998, 00:38
On Thursday, 09-Jul-98, Che wrote [about (idm) drill & bass Re: it takes =
the
physical....]:
>At 05:24 PM 7/8/98 -0400, mult santa wrote:
>>i think i'm gonna sit down and write a book on the (brief) history of
>>drill n bass ;-)
>Since you're such an expert, maybe you can explain what subtle nuances m=
ake
>Squarepusher drill&bass, & T-Power, Spring Heel Jack, Photek, & Amon Tob=
in
>(at least his faster tracks) something else? All use a combination of
>programmed hits & cut-up breaks (Amen used almost never) in varying rati=
os,
>and all have a much stronger emphasis on melody & density than mainstrea=
m
>drum&bass. Of course they all sound different, but to my ears at least,=
>there's no more difference between them & say Black Dog, Autechre, &
>Beaumont Hannant, who all seem to fit into the same genre.
Photek is jungle, not drill'n'bass. but your point here somewhat crosses
paths with what I was trying to say..
why should we call it drill'n'bass.. it caused everyone to corrolate the
next wave of big hits as being drill'n'bass tracks, and suddenly the wave=
became reality and now the wave has crashed and the ocean is calm again.
>At 12:27 PM 7/8/98 -0400, Sebastien Dalphond wrote:
>>Don't get me wrong. I love 4/4 techno, just as much as I love IDM in
>>general and drum & bass. But I think that the whole electronica is
>>based on samples, sequencers, hopefully giving it an organic feel to it=
>>by pitching in *real* instruments, vocals, warmth, rich layers, etc. A=
t
>>least, that was the way it was at first.
>Organic sucks.
no way man.. there's only a few IDM hits that aren't organic, and those a=
re
mostly autechre tracks, that sound machinery clashing together.
>*Real* instruments suck.
well, I don't believe this.. it is tough to incorporate real instruments
(without using samplers). I fell in love with and will always be in love
with the sound of the vibraphone, upon playing it at a jazz festival thin=
g
at school. (I just played with it while the bandmembers took a break)
I can imagine making some KICKASS ambient tracks with that as one of the
instruments. it's got it's own reverb, and it's own vibrato :)
>Vocals suck.
well, I wouldn't go as to generalise it that far.. and just for those who=
read what I said before and thought that I am anti-vocal, just know that =
I
hold anything Jimi Tenor has done close to my heart, and will always do s=
o..
and I also put the latest Madonna album up there with what are the best
albums as of late.. I mean there are lots of those.. it is definitely
without a doubt thee best pop record to come out in 1998 (I dunno about
bjork with mark bell, have not heard it..)
but yes, the madonna vocals are a bit annoying, but it is after all, pop
music, so. and most vocals do suck, because a lot of times it just ruins =
the
music, just with the way a lot of times MC's ruin the music.. now there a=
re
of course exceptions. I saw LTJ Bukem DJ with MC Conrad and MC Conrad did=
n't
ruin the music at all. Then I have a Sven V=E4th mixtape with some german=
MC
that if I was there I would have wanted to throw my shoe at.
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