From laerm Sent Fri, Sep 4th 1998, 15:13
sorry if i seem evil, but i wasn't planning on replying to this email until i saw that i disagreed with most everything you said. now, i feel as if i need to offer the opposite opinion. sorry - guess i'm just bored. On Fri, 4 Sep 1998, foo chicken wrote: > download: whoever said they weren't IDM was wrong. I'm beginning to > like download a lot, even though they can be a little cheesy, their > music is almost always "good." I definitely like "Eyes of stanley > pain" and "Charlie's family" better than "III", although they're all > good. charlie's is probably the best, mostly because it's one of the > most fucked up and weird things I've ever heard, and I like things > like that. eyes is good as well for "industrial noise" content, and > also has some truly messed up sounds. III just seems like they > decided to eliminate the industrial noise and just stick to techno > with good beats. I like the others better mainly because I don't have > a lot of similar stuff, while III is more standard. oh yeah - is > skinny puppy worth investigating? hm. well, i think the best download is _furnace_. even through gen's babbling, _furnace_ still sounds fresh to my ears. _stanley pain_ was intense the first time i heard it. blew my socks off. now, i listen to it, and its like "plbbt. heard that loud crazy noise before." kinda like watching a slasher flick - by about the 4th time around, nothing grabs you anymore. i just found _charlie's family_ trite and boring. _III_, however, seems consistent and seems like it will have staying power. so, to summarise; _furnace_ was/is interesting, but _stanley pain_ grabbed me much more, and _III_ seems to be the happy medium. > meat beat: I managed to score a promo of the new album, and after > repeated listening, it's pretty damn great. there's even a great, > funky jazz number on there that I just love. jack has managed to > combine everything great about "original fire" yet retain some of the > "subliminal sandwich" style that we know and love. I can't say that > there's much about it reminds of his early works, ala the classic > "Storm the Studio" and "99%" (more 99% than STS for sure) but that's > okay, because it still kicks ass. if you're masochistic, there are > some mp3 samples up at the brainwashed site yeah, jack actually seems to have written a "pop"py album this time around. not that i mind after the power of SS. it does remind me a great deal of _99%_, though - and that's my least favourite meat beat album. example: the upcoming single, "prime audio soup", uses the same drum track as "helter skelter". i thought it seemed much lighter and easier than SS, therefore... > (warning: may require repeated listenings to enjoy) ...it should be pretty easy to grasp the first time around, like _99%_. > test dept: another great industrial band that has ventured into the > vast arena of IDM. their latest "tactics for evolution" may be a > predictable drum and bass rip off, but at least they did it will. > only for completists methinks. however the album which first saw them > departing industrial was "totality" and it remains the best. Lots of > great breakbeats, some nice wailing and totally original -- it made me > an avid fan, and I highly recommend it. it is, in fact, worthy of an > actual review, so i'll listen to it again and send an update. > totality remixes seem to be some good/lame (I can't decide) punding > house and techno numbers. _totality_ made me ill (especially _totality remixes_), but the comp of early '90's material, _legacy_, is quite good. rather varied - runs the gamut from muslimgauze-styled-industrial to hard techno to dub to whatever. import and domestic have identical tracklistings, but the import has far better art. > nocturnal emissions: i'm not sure if they're IDM or not, but I really > love them. Your mileage may vary. When I first heard them, I wasn't [snip] whugh! sorry, gut reaction. can't stand these guys. post-gothic wanking. sorry. but i've seen greg clow hanging out on alt.gothic, so you may have a backer. ;) </prat mode> * #### a disturbance in a system. #### laerm. @voicenet.com #### a fortune cookie i ate 08/06/98 told me: "a girlfriend is a wine bottle. a wife is a bottle of wine."