From Brian Willoughby Sent Fri, Jan 25th 2019, 06:51
I agree. Whenever someone releases a design as open source / open = hardware, there=E2=80=99s really nothing to be done. I mean, the = *expectation* is that it will be used. All the same, branding is copyright, and the use of the brand, Mutable = Instruments, without permission, is quite actionable. So, you can save time by releasing products based on open designs, but = you can=E2=80=99t advertise your product by leveraging the good will of = some other company=E2=80=99s brand. Brian =E2=80=9CIANAL=E2=80=9D Willoughby On Jan 24, 2019, at 4:47 PM, Justin Maxwell <xxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote: > I realize this is just a conversation amongst friends but I totally = agree with the MW poster who said it's all MI's fault. A lot of synth = businesses new and old are learning a lot of tough lessons in IP over = the past two years. >=20 > There were many versions of the MIT license they could have chosen but = they chose to use the one that allows modification and adaptation for = commercial use >=20 > https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/ >=20 > Arturia didn't do anything shady other than call them a partner. = Honestly that was the catch. They should have just blatantly used it and = said "Developed by Mutable" instead of implying partnership.=20 >=20 > On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 3:51 PM soup <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> wrote: >> Yeea, I'd like to give them the benefit of the doubt and figure = 'partners' is a bad translation for 'friends' but to monsieur's point, = it's kind of a lame to cop the brand in the copy. >>=20 >> -soup >>=20 >> On Jan 24, 2019, at 3:06 PM, Quincas Moreira <xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> = wrote: >>> where's this post from MI? All the press is toting this as a = collaboration! Doesn't sound like Arturia to lie like that.... >>>=20 >>> On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 4:29 PM Jason Proctor <xxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> = wrote: >>>> ah, and a post from Mutable indicates that this is not something in = which they are involved. so basically Arturia used the Mutable open = source licence to implement the MicroFreak. legal for sure, but = stretching things a bit, and their "partners at Mutable" statement is a = little off. >>>>=20 >>>> so if you buy a MicroFreak, ensure to send $50 to Mutable. $399 is = still a deal for this synth! >>>>=20 >>>> i would buy one if i had anywhere to put it. >>>>=20 >>>> > On Jan 24, 2019, at 5:23 PM, Jason Proctor <xxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> = wrote: >>>> >=20 >>>> > "5 bespoke Arturia engines, and 8 modes from our partners at = Mutable >>>> > Instruments." >>>> >=20 >>>> > it's a plaits inside >>>> >=20