Re: [AH] Arturia MicroFreak

From Brian Willoughby
Sent Fri, Jan 25th 2019, 06:51

I agree. Whenever someone releases a design as open source / open =
hardware, there=E2=80=99s really nothing to be done. I mean, the =
*expectation* is that it will be used.

All the same, branding is copyright, and the use of the brand, Mutable =
Instruments, without permission, is quite actionable.

So, you can save time by releasing products based on open designs, but =
you can=E2=80=99t advertise your product by leveraging the good will of =
some other company=E2=80=99s brand.

Brian =E2=80=9CIANAL=E2=80=9D Willoughby


On Jan 24, 2019, at 4:47 PM, Justin Maxwell <xxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> I realize this is just a conversation amongst friends but I totally =
agree with the MW poster who said it's all MI's fault. A lot of synth =
businesses new and old are learning a lot of tough lessons in IP over =
the past two years.
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> There were many versions of the MIT license they could have chosen but =
they chose to use the one that allows modification and adaptation for =
commercial use
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> https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/
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> Arturia didn't do anything shady other than call them a partner. =
Honestly that was the catch. They should have just blatantly used it and =
said "Developed by Mutable" instead of implying partnership.=20
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> On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 3:51 PM soup <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>> Yeea, I'd like to give them the benefit of the doubt and figure =
'partners' is a bad translation for 'friends' but to monsieur's point, =
it's kind of a lame to cop the brand in the copy.
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>> -soup
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>> On Jan 24, 2019, at 3:06 PM, Quincas Moreira <xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> =
wrote:
>>> where's this post from MI? All the press is toting this as a =
collaboration! Doesn't sound like Arturia to lie like that....
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>>> On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 4:29 PM Jason Proctor <xxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> =
wrote:
>>>> ah, and a post from Mutable indicates that this is not something in =
which they are involved. so basically Arturia used the Mutable open =
source licence to implement the MicroFreak. legal for sure, but =
stretching things a bit, and their "partners at Mutable" statement is a =
little off.
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>>>> so if you buy a MicroFreak, ensure to send $50 to Mutable. $399 is =
still a deal for this synth!
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>>>> i would buy one if i had anywhere to put it.
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>>>> > On Jan 24, 2019, at 5:23 PM, Jason Proctor <xxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> =
wrote:
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>>>> > "5 bespoke Arturia engines, and 8 modes from our partners at =
Mutable
>>>> > Instruments."
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>>>> > it's a plaits inside
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