Re: (idm) all this dub talk

From Arthur B. Purvis
Sent Thu, Mar 18th 1999, 20:51

On Thu, 18 Mar 1999, thomas m weibrecht wrote:

> >> >Rule 1) if bill laswell plays bass on it, don't buy it.  No matter
> >> >how good the other people are on the CD, it will suck.  If it's a 
> >> >whole CD by Bill Laswell, it will be atrocious.

> i guess if youre a proponent of statistical sampling you are correct, but
> thats probably the flaw in the theory...so if approx. 30% of someone's
> output "sucks", so does the rest...as to the discs you find good:
> considering laswell produced the records, got the guys together, provided
> a state-of the art studio and one of the most capable engineers in the
> business today, id hardly say he didnt have much to do with those
> releases...

I said it will be bad if he plays bass on it and it is a dub record
(though I will be happy to extend this overly broad statement to his
ambient records too).
His method of lowend filtering coupled with totally wanky bass playing
just kills me everytime - so flat sounding it's unbelievable.
Note that people are taking my words and twisting them beyond recognition
on this list - I even said if he produced/compiled it, it has a good
chance of being alright.

> >I haven't heard of echo beach, but Wordsound blows on-u out of the 
> >water.
> 
> goes back to laswell...his hand has been in some way shape or form on 14
> of the label's releases...ironic huh?...plus, style scott is the "in
> house" drummer for the wordsound posse, and his roots are in dub
> syndicate, one of the on-u stable...ironic huh?

And the EOE and Laswell + Style Scott are by far the worst things I've
heard on that label (and I am a huge fan of Harris and Bernocchi).  By
far. Dubadelic wasn't so hot either.  I'm not sure where that number 14
comes from, because I don't see 14 Wordsound records with Laswell on them.
I see 5 + 3 comps.

On-U is not a bad label by any means, and I never said anything to even
suggest that, so I don't know why you're pointing fingers.  I just think
Wordsound is way better.

> check em out...but they are are on on-u sound...

OK, but I have to admit my wariness of new Perry may prevent me from
hearing them until someone I know acquires a copy.

> dub is a technique more than anything else...its mutations are endless,
> but the categorization is the same...imo of course...

of course.

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