Re: (idm) idm for newbies

From sun rob and his arkestra
Sent Wed, Jul 8th 1998, 06:28

bjork...
        i thought her latest was actually more groundbreaking than a lot
of standard idm stuff lately. orchestras and electronics colliding,
bouncing off each other and fusing with passionate songwriting.  a great
listen. 

> > 6 U2: that thing they did
> Yeah, it's like they are wearing someone else's ill-fitting clothes.
> There was a time when U2 had a lot of passion and credibility on their
> side.  Now...

no, the electronics don't fit u2 well as a *focal* point.  but u2 have
always been about adapting a new sound to their 'feel', and i think on
'pop' they were reaching for it and didn't quite get it.  actually, they
did get it much earlier, on 'zooropa', everyone's least favorite u2 record
since they dabbled in beats and loops way before it was the new hip thing. 

> > 7 Bowie: that thing he did
> Trying to popularize elements from underground music is most of what Bowie
> has ever been about.  Just congratulate the man for keeping the "Thin" in
> "Thin White Duke" and for being able to dig himself out of the elder-
> statesman rut he got himself into for a long while there. 

i give bowie enormous props simply for having fans among the kids, keeping
himself healthy and seemingly happy, and trying to keep pushing his music
unlike other surviving members of his generation.  he and eno are class
acts, and while 'earthling' wasn't the most innovative record last year,
it certainly rates as a good bowie record.  


sorta-idm thought: what i really like about boards of canada, bits of
autechre, and the x-ecutioners:  they all use the occasional vocal sample
that 's so processed and cut up that you'll never figure out what it's
actually saying.  i think it's one of the stranger elements of old school
hip hop that never gets any attention: the little vocal samples that are
so far back in the mix, or so messed up by the producing or cutting, that
they cease to be words.  heck, sometimes they're the best hook in the
song. 

anyway. 
rob