Re: (idm) Autechre "clones" or not!

From AndrewC.
Sent Sun, Mar 7th 1999, 04:33

>technically he could, yes, but you would not find a good musician wasting
his
>talent... that would go against him being a good muscian.

Ho ho - you should be in a TV movie. "Stop wasting your talent on that Rock
& Roll music. You know you've got brains, what about Mozart, and Beethoven?"
"But Momma, I love Rock & Roll, I've got to try and be a... a Star!"

>>  i think the original idea behind idm was to give an alternative to the
>>  repetitive, unoriginal beats which then dominated techno music.
>
>Your saying that the originators of this widespread genre we know as IDM
were
>inspired to create something new because they were bored with the
unoriginal
>beats of the time. I don't believe that at all..

Well you're wrong. Ninety percent of IDM pioneers were into original house,
techno, acid, and hip hop. And I'll bet you a lot of them still like those
original beats, and like the man said, they were unimpressed with newer
stuff coming out that failed to innovate the original formulas.

>.. intelligent dance
>music, as opposed to stupid dance music.. that's all it means.. this is
good..
>and that other stuff is shit.


What a load of old rubbish. Intelligent Dance music is a chimera, a shadow.
Your pathetic definition - music that is not "stupid" - tells us nothing
apart from what music you don't like. All this appalling Keep Music Live
rubbish about skillfullness, and musicianship, its bullshit. Go back to
listening to Yngwie J. Malmsteen, where you belong. I'm sure you'll find
some wonderfull skill and musicianship in his light speed fret manipulation.

Your stupid dance music has in many cases a lot more musicianship than IDM.
What does Pole have to do with music? Its all clicks, pops and the
occasional half formed melody. Now I love Pole, I love v/vm with their maxi
sampled collage vibe, but lets face it, Roy Ayers, or Global Communication
to pick two names out of the hat, one a jazz/soul musician with (gasp)
vocals, and the other currently making the most divine house music you'll
never hear with your ideas of electronic music; both of these have more
tunes in their little fingers than most IDM I've heard recently (BoC
excluded). They display all the qualities you describe above, but thats not
all of why I like them, I like the groove, the funk, the stupid stuff about
them.

You are confused, little man, and you are a snob. Come clean, and admit it.
The music you so loftily define as intelligent is simply Your Favourite
Tunes. Stop pretending its innately superior to the stuff you're not into.

CheerioAndrewC.