Re: (idm) back in my day...

From s.f.w.d.
Sent Sun, Jun 28th 1998, 18:24

> On Sunday, 28-Jun-98, daniel wrote [about (idm) back in my day...]:
> >you have heard of.  Sure warp is putting out some good stuff.  Sure skam
> >is putting out some good stuff.  But the ground breaking material isn't on
> >those labels.  Check out a-musik, suction and rastermusic for example. 
> 
> I highly disagree. Warp's AI comps were the shit, are the shit, and will
> remain THEE shit until the end of time. granted warp hasn't had many
> groundbreaking releases lately. Unless you call the weird microphone-hiss
> amplified and distorted which is MC: Pin Skeeling groundbreaking. It may be,
> I don't know. I don't think so though.

I think that the point was is that, as of late, Warp hasn't been groundbreaking... 
one of favorite Warp releases (sort of recent) was the Phoenecia, but when it 
comes down to it, it's nothing new. Great release, still the same, simply wasn't 
really the point.

> 
> >of IDM.  Some of the better releases can be found in genres like
> >industrial and house.  Check out glassgow underground. Sure it is house
> 
> I disagree.. There are some great releases in the house dept.. and some may
> be better, worse who knows.. but I certainly wouldn't generalise that out of
> house vs. IDM house wins.. no way in hell.. but there is house that does
> rock.. The track "sensual enjoyments" on Sven Vath's new album I consider
> damn well brilliant, for example.

Again, I think the point was sort of missed... i don't think a generalizaion was 
being made that house is better than idm or that the genre has more releases 
that are better, i think that its just being pointed out that alot of people simply 
don't explore the other genres and thus miss quite a few great releases that 
happen to be labeled as house or industrial. I used to be into the industrial 
scene quite a bit til this aweful guitar sound took it over... but i'm damn glad i 
didn't miss download, scar tissue and it blew my mind when i first heard that 
not breathing was signed (especially blew my mind that invisble signed! hehehe 
small change of pace there =) Anyhow, if we look beyond what we normally 
label 'idm' (ie the skams, warps, etc) there's some great music that could 
probably hold up next to it nicely... Hell, the most recent material from the 
VVM camp (CV[ev]'s Chart Runners) definately finds itself far outside what we 
would deem 'idm' at moments.... 

Just my two cents.... 

btw - i hink all those / and \ look hella cool... course, i have too much time on 
my hands and hang out with six and seven year olds so....

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