From Andrew Horton Sent Tue, Jan 16th 2018, 17:42
From Andrew Horton Sent Tue, Jan 16th 2018, 17:42
I have found one of these - https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/EXTC-SA - to be instrumental in incorporating pedals into my patchbay. On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 12:40 PM, Boniforti Flavio <xxxxxxxxx.x@xxxxx.xxx> wrote: > Hi Thomas - yes indeed, you're right: half-normalled as in the manual. > > I do see the advantage of a (physical) mixer, and I believe this is what I'm > actually already doing with the "mixes" I've been talking about earlier. I > can adjust the individual amount of send on mix 2 (delay) and on mix 3 > (reverb) for each input. The dry signal is on mix 1, the return from mix 2 > is of course summed and is input into mix1 on pair 7+8, whereas mix3 gets > back into mix1 on pair A3+A4 - does that reflect what you're saying? > F. > > https://soundcloud.com/bonnyfused > > 2018-01-16 17:26 GMT+01:00 Thomas Krugman <xxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx>: >> >> Yes. If I'm not mistaken and judging from this page the "STANDARD" setup >> is half-normalled which is what you have? >> >> http://www.neutrik.com/en/products/audio/patch-panels/1/4-patch-panel/nys-spp-l1 >> >> The advantage of a mixer is that putting an effect on an AUX allows you to >> adjust the SEND level for each instrument you send to that AUX. >> With just an interface and a patchbay you have to be creative in emulating >> that. Experiment! The way you work and record will dictate how to wire it >> all up. Like you said, you're not going to record 24 instruments at once so >> you have a lot of room to play with how you patch. >> >> On Sun, Jan 14, 2018 at 3:03 PM, Boniforti Flavio <xxxxxxxxx.x@xxxxx.xxx> >> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Thomas... >>> >>> 2018-01-14 20:04 GMT+01:00 Thomas Krugman <xxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx>: >>>> >>>> It doesn't matter that you already have your 24 channels assigned to >>>> instruments. When you plug a patch cable to the front bottom row (which is >>>> normalled to an interface input) you are breaking that connection between >>>> that bottom row and it's corresponding top row (the instrument). So again, >>>> if you patch the output of your pedal to the bottom front row of an >>>> interface input, the instrument on the top row is no longer routed to that >>>> input. Do you know what I mean? >>> >>> >>> This is the "half normalled bottom row" configuration, right? >>> >>>> >>>> So yes you can do the advanced way easily if you want. Because there's >>>> no way you're recording 24 instrument inputs at the same time (or are you?) >>>> so you always have at least several inputs free for effects. That's what's >>>> cool about half-normalled. >>>> >>> >>> Ah, you answer my above question here :-) >>> I know that I won't be recording 24 channels at once, that's for sure. >>> I'm simply used to remember how I worked with a physical mixer, where I had >>> all channels labeled with the gear names. I wouldn't connect to let's say >>> "TR-808" channel (if not used) the wet signal of my SH-101 passing through >>> the phaser. But I guess, this is simply my mindset, which would need to be >>> adapted. :-) >>> >>>> >>>> I'm not sure I understand your second question. As for Stereo to Mono >>>> you could take just one of the outputs into your MF-104m. You can create a >>>> simple MULT with 4 or 5 jacks connected together and route several synths to >>>> it and from there into your effect. What interface do you have? Have you >>>> gone over the manual to see if it offers any special internal routing >>>> capabilities? >>>> >>> >>> I do have a MOTU 828 MK3 Hybrid - there's where I configured the >>> different "Mixes" as explained before. Those are like send mixes, where the >>> return (stereo) is being brought back into Mix 1 (Master Mix). Confusion is >>> arising because both delay and reverb are stereo units and being fed with >>> stereo signal. I honestly have to admit that I don't know if I can >>> output/assign a Mix (let's say Mix 4) to a mono output. That would solve my >>> question, I guess... >>> >>>> >>>> And how about doing this in your DAW by assigning hardware instruments >>>> to inserts in your software. Have you tried this before? Google "DAW >>>> hardware inserts how to". Then you really open up even more routing >>>> possibilities. Your software should be able to compensate for latency. >>>> >>>> Logic: >>>> https://documentation.apple.com/en/logicpro/usermanual/index.html#chapter=10%26section=12%26tasks=true >>>> Abelton: >>>> http://blog.dubspot.com/how-to-route-external-hardware-audio-effects/ >>> >>> >>> Thanks, I'll read through the above eventually. But I really prefer to >>> work in hardware and only record to my DAW the "almost final" product... >>> F. >> >> >