From Tom Millar Sent Fri, Jul 2nd 1999, 09:35
From Tom Millar Sent Fri, Jul 2nd 1999, 09:35
> Right, well, I had to put them all in different places. If I put them all in > the same song, then nobody would listen to the rest of the disc. It's like > an Easter Egg hunt. If you have good parts, go ahead and put them all together. Unless they got good purely by accident, you will have more good parts. Just condense & compile until it's all good. If you KNOW yourself that some parts of a track are weaker than others, then you owe it to yourself and your listeners to replace them or cut them out. I think that's the hardest thing to learn, making music, and it's probably why so many people stick to endless vamps for seven minutes... e.g. me. > Why is this true? Do we sampladelicans not obey the verse/chorus/verse > convention? I don't think this is what you mean, since this is the IDM list. > Does "song structure" even exist for IDM? And I, for one, am OK with the > traditional notions of song structure being re-examined. When you're dealing with lots of long phrases it's difficult to arrange a song so that they flow in and out of each other. When I listen to your stuff, it sounds a lot like a DJ doing fast cuts back and forth between records. If I was into the whole battle DJ thing I would probably like it more, but I'm not, so maybe my comments aren't really on the mark. I don't mean verse/chorus//bridge/chorus type stuff at all, just smooth arranging between sections. Quick cuts work for building tension (see the art of the breakdown) but not all the time, that's all I'm really bitching about. Song structure certainly exists for IDM. It usually goes MIDI Channel One/MIDI Channels One & Two/MIDI Channels One & Two & Three/MIDI Channels One & Two & Three & Four/and so on. > Where have you been? Where are you now? I've sent out stuff for free to get feedback before (on the 313 list). So I know how it feels to get criticized afterwards. You feel like, bitch, I gave you a free record, shut up. But in the end I usually end up agreeing with the critics more than I do with the polite folks. Or that could just be a problem with my self-esteem. Now I'm on Mad Monkey Records (thanks again Daniel) and I couldn't be happier, really. BTW, not to self-promote any more than necessary, but everybody should get that comp. Just for the cover photo of my uncle and the tracks by Lesser and Saundart. If you want I'll remix your stuff first chance I get and we can see what happens. Thanks for letting me clarify my statements. Tom