From William Cordray Sent Fri, Dec 18th 1998, 18:25
From William Cordray Sent Fri, Dec 18th 1998, 18:25
There is definitely a connection here. I've been producing beats for a small underground hiphop label from Atlanta and I really don't come from a hiphop background. Like the majority of people on this list, I listen to a lot of experimental electronic stuff. But the majority of the mc's I work with dig the weird and obscure shit. It's usually because of all the buddha they been blowin' :} My two cents, William Cordray xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx -----Original Message----- From: Andrew Duke Cognition Audioworks <xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: John Bush <xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> Cc: IDM <xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>; xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx <xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Date: Friday, December 18, 1998 8:50 AM Subject: (idm) Re:the IDM in R&B/Atlanta/Detroit >John Bush wrote: > >> <snip> regarding American hip-hop producers and their similarities to >> electronic stuff. I'm >> convinced that if tracks from the latest Busta Rhymes, Timbaland or RZA LPs >> (heck, even Jay-Z) were released on some obscure label without vocals, >> they'd blow up around here. There's even some good productions on No Limit >> Records (maybe one or two per album), with really hot cymbals going >> tsss-tsss and those great start-stop bass rhythms. Maybe Wu-Tang is onto >> this, since an instrumental version of RZA's album is coming out early next >> year...<snip> > >John: I agree totally. Worked '97 and '98 in a CD store with a mainly >mainstream-musiclistening-type clientele. Whenever I could get away with it, >I'd sneak in the electronic music >I personally dug (to get through the day *and* maybe convert some people :) ), >but >for the large part I had to play popular stuff. So I played *a lot* of rap, >hip hop, r & b. >And, like you said, some of the beats were pretty damn intricate, almost drum n >bass style >(of course, where the boss yelled before about "all that damn electronic music" >I had been >playiing on the store's system, it was now "play some rock music sometimes, >too, will ya?"), >and instrumentals on some of it would have have been much better. Yesterday >was listening >to the local hip hop/R & b show here in Halifax and the DJ played the new TLC >(from Atlanta and the >Babyface/Jermaine Dupri/Dallas Austin empire). The remix was more IDM than >R&B, >in fact, as the intro was playing, I was wondering if he had put on the wrong >promo. >Heavy duty electro style beat with lots of high screeches; of course, then the >vocals >came in and changed things a bit. It's called "Sister Ho" or something like >that. And the DJ >even mentioned the Timbaland connection, saying, "nope, that wasn't produced by >Timbaland, >it was done by Dallas Austin". Floating Aux 88 member BJ is doing hip hop/R & >B now, >and when I interviewed Lawrence Burden for the Octave One piece, he said >Detroit >and Atlanta were "working on some things together". Andrew