Re: (idm) back in my day...

From sun rob and his arkestra
Sent Mon, Jun 29th 1998, 01:07

just to throw in my two cents...

> the most available and accessible.  Of course the stuff that is easy to
> find is going to be influenced by drum and bass because drum and bass
> sells. 

does drum and bass really sell?  i can't name a million selling dnb record
off the top of my head.  i wish drum and bass _was_ what was selling
millions, and not puff daddy.  of course, i think you mean compared to the
usual sales/exposure of an IDM record--talvin singh's dnb stuff gets used
as background mtv music while stuff on rephlex usually doesn't.  however,
in the overall scheme of things, dnb seems every bit as underground, or
more appropriately, obscure a set as IDM.  sure, the average kid these
days can probably name goldie and roni size, but i personally think that's
a _good_ thing for IDM, because the gaps aren't that huge. 

> those labels.  Check out a-musik, suction and rastermusic for example. 

i would, but i'd say i suffer from the same problem that most people do:
the lack of exposure i have to this stuff means that it's tough for me to
throw down 16 bucks on a record i haven't heard.  the net has changed some
of this, though...i got the boards of canada disc becuase of the samples
on warpnet and a healthy dose of good recommendations by people on the
net.

> of beat can't be good.  If I would have stayed in my little crafted IDM
> world I would never have found download, shinjuku thief, UI, surgeon and

i wonder if anyone really stays in the idm world... it doesnt' occur to me
as one you could get to without taking a winding road through other music.
i'm sure this is an old thread, but i wonder what else this list listens
to?  in my collection, miles davis has an equal place with autechre who
have an equal spot with portishead who have an equal place with public
enemy and so on and on.  

oh, and i think you could get to UI through Uilab through stereolab, which
is either a direct ally with IDM or through one more jump via tortoise.
or something like that. 


> "there is no such thing as bad music. Point blank.  There is no record the
> whole world would agree this is shit"

i think there's bad music. but i'd always preface taht with "i think,"
because good and bad are always just that, opinions.  and no one's opinion
is law.  it's the interaction of these opnions, the reasons why people
find things good and bad, which make music and this list interesting. 

r-o-b