RE: (idm) Negativland/Fatboy Slim sample tiff

From Rodney Perkins
Sent Tue, Sep 1st 1998, 19:01

MS Outlook is playing tricks so this could be the second version that =
passes through. Sorry if it is.

I can see what you are saying; I just have a different perspective. The =
use of the word "dillettante" is just a reflection of my general feeling =
about Negativland. Its crude and perhaps unfair but thats my perception. =
I have followed the group since "Escape from Noise" and have seen the =
subsequent pattern of gags, pranks and guffaws. First, they spread =
rumors that "Christianity is Stupid" was the cause of an axe murder. =
That turned into the "Helter Stupid" album (which is great by the way). =
Then it was the U2 debacle which evolved into 'Fair Use" book and CD. =
Now its a new thing every week. I agree that they aren't hypocritical. =
In my opinion, the whole charade is getting old and stale.

With respect,
R.P.=20


-----Original Message-----
From:        clockwise [SMTP:xxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxxx.xxx]
Sent:        Thursday, September 10, 1998 5:10 PM
To:        xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx
Subject:        Re: (idm) Negativland/Fatboy Slim sample tiff

Where does the use of "dilettantes" come from? They didn't want the =
money,
they're not upset about being sampled. The actual press release doesnt =
read
as a complaint at all (I can forward it to you if youd like). They
mentioned that they found it amusing that Coke was going to feature an
uncleared sample in an advertisement (since despite SST erroneously =
giving
permission for its usage, it wasn't ever cleared by Negativland in the
first place).

People have tried to make hypocrites out of Negativland for a long time,
but anyone who knows anything about them will attest to their honest
adherance to their ideology concerning copyright and music.

They refer to Fatboy Slim's management as "stupid" because anyone even
remotely familiar with Negativland would know that SST and Negativland
split on unhappy (to put it mildly) terms, and they should have known =
that
not only would SST keep all the money, but that they don't have the
authority to permit their work to be used.

peace

clockwise




At 08:30 AM 9/10/98 +0000, you wrote:
>I thought after all of Negativland's recent sloganeering about fair us" =
and
>such, the following article from the 9/9/98 edition of Allstar News =
puts
>this group of "radicals" in the proper light. If it were April Fool's =
Day,
>this would all make sense. Dilettantes...
>
>Negativland -- the outspoken outfit against paying rights for samples =
--
>sent out a cranky press release Tuesday (Sept. 1) complaining about =
Fatboy
>Slim's use of one of their samples in the song "Michael Jackson" in a =
Coke
>commercial. While Negativland believes people shouldn't have to pay to
>sample others, they're not too happy that their work ended up in a Coke
>spot. But, the thing is, it didn't. Only the instrumental part of =
"Michael
>Jackson," which is on Fatboy Slim's 1997 album Better Living Through
>Chemistry, is used in the spot. The song samples from Negativland's own
>"Michael Jackson" from their 1987 SST album Escape from Noise. And =
while
>Fatboy Slim did pay SST ($1000) for permission to use the sample,
>Negativland claims SST is keeping the money for themselves, though, =
adds
>that the group would've given it to them for free anyway (again, that's
>their thing). The sample in question was actually stolen by a =
Negativland
>member from the basement of a church in Concord, Calif. in the '70s. =
Fatboy
>Slim's label, Astralwerks, had no comment. And, seeing that Fatboy Slim =
(aka
>Norman Cook) is a big fan of Negativland, we're sure the release (which
>states that he "stupidly" went to SST Records to get permission to use =
the
>sample) would upset him a bit. The Coke spot starts airing on =
television
>Sept. 7 for three months and is part of a major NFL campaign, which =
includes
>a contest to send people to the Super Bowl..=20
>
>