Re: [AH] Which overdrive pedal for TB-303?

From punkdISCO
Sent Wed, Mar 20th 2019, 07:32

I super love the Electron Digitak. I dismissed it for years thinking it was a=
n overpriced bit of luxury but, the Mk1 is now more affordable with the Mk2 c=
oming out. Sonically and functional they are almost identical.

Not tried it on my 303 but everything you put through the Digitak sounds bet=
ter..

Ta

Paul
London=20
www.punkdisco.co.uk

> On 20 Mar 2019, at 05:14, Eric Wood <xxxx.xxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
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> David; from a kit?
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>> On Mar 19, 2019, at 10:32 PM, David Bivins <xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
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>> I just built a Big Muff clone a few weeks ago. I checked it out on
>> guitar but not on my 303! I'll have to do that tomorrow.
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>> Also - LOL - check out this blog post and the link in it. Last year.
>> http://modelagnostic.co.uk/blog/quest-for-the-ultimate-303-distortion
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>>> On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 11:09 PM Eric Wood <xxxx.xxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> wrote=
:
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>>> I used a big muff on a really hard acidy track like 15 years ago sending=
 both a 909 and 202 through it and I thought it sounded kick ass. There may h=
ave been another EH pedal on it as well though like a delay or some such thi=
ng, I can=E2=80=99t remember. Anyway, I just bought another one to mess arou=
nd with; now I have three, the other two needing repair. I probably wouldn=E2=
=80=99t use it for clean sounding stuff but I think it=E2=80=99s a beast for=
 more aggressive noise. I just ordered a Boss Rod-10 per Tony=E2=80=99s? Sug=
gestion and am exited to give that a go. I thought Hardfloor used a Boss Met=
al Zone? Don=E2=80=99t know why I think that though; I did see their setup o=
nce many years ago in Chicago; perhaps they had one for that, or I could be m=
aking that up.
>>> Eric
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>>>> On Mar 19, 2019, at 8:37 PM, David Bivins <xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
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>>>> I had a Sovtek Big Muff Pi and ended up selling it because I didn't
>>>> like it sounded with any of my synths. But I hadn't tried Tomislav's
>>>> approach, which is really smart. I didn't like the ProCo Rat, either.
>>>> I thought they were both too ugly sounding. I'd probably like them
>>>> more, now.
>>>> I like the Boss HM-2 because it can give a big, round boost, like a
>>>> compressor; it has EQ to dial the bass in and keep it in; and it
>>>> wildly accentuates the resonant frequency of the 303, making it sound
>>>> like a nightmare beast on the attack. You can be a little subtle with
>>>> it, but it works best "dimed" - everything up to 10. I always liked
>>>> the sound on the Cluster label (the UK label, not the German band,
>>>> which I like, too), e.g. D.A.V.E. the Drummer and Chris Liberator, and
>>>> I felt the HM-2 got me that powerful sound. I thought it sounded a bit
>>>> like Hardfloor, too, but I think they actually used a Rat.
>>>> No google was used in the making of this post, so I might have my facts=
 wrong :)
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>>>>> On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 9:13 PM Eric Wood <xxxx.xxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> wrot=
e:
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>>>>> I was wondering if anyone was using the Big Muff
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>>>>> On Mar 19, 2019, at 6:51 PM, Tomislav Babic <xxxxxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxx.xxx>=
 wrote:
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>>>>> yes splitting the signal,  and mixing little bit of dry under the over=
driven component.
>>>>> even better if you lowpass the dry with  gentle slope like 12 or 6dB/o=
ct starting as low as 150 Hz , plus minus.
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>>>>> i use DI box for split; thru goes to the pedal (MXR Dist+ custom shop,=
 Iron Ether Oxide or one of my Big Muffs)
>>>>> and xlr is fed to a mic pre input.  lowpass i do in daw.
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>>>>> that said, i find thi necessary once in a blue moon - it depends on th=
e role of 303 or similar synth will have in
>>>>> the arrangement.  for low bass i dont like drive, or resonance. howeve=
r for that hardcore "mid bass" range
>>>>> where it slaps you silly,   sometimes you want that  overdriven bass l=
ight sound.  specially if another 303,
>>>>> or sh2 or something is doing the low bass beneath.  so they each have b=
reathing space.
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>>>>> its been a while since i sold my 303 but i still use the same wet/dry t=
ehnique with sh2, sh101 and sys100.
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>>>>> PS on a related note, i have had a RE303 built recently, and i am sorr=
y to admit it sounds nothing like the 303.
>>>>> we have done direct a/b and  its rather dissapointing.   i am pissed o=
ff for time and energy i have spent into
>>>>> this wild goose chase.
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>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 11:13 PM Paco deBongo <xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx>=
 wrote:
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>>>>>> BTW--just from casual observation--I'm pretty sure that the devilfish=
 will lose the bottom end too w/ its built in overdrive--It is a nice overdr=
ive, but none that I have encounter are perfect--I don't think there's anywa=
y around losing the bottom--shy of splitting the signal and mixing it wet/dr=
y--or having two acid boxes...Maybe run overdrive thru just the mixer and th=
en compress the signal back down?
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>>>>>> I was wondering if a bass overdrive might be the ticket?
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>>>>>> Any one here design an overdrive circuit?  How does frequency respons=
e come into play?  Is it even amplitude boost at all frequencies?
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>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 3:35 PM Computer Controlled <xxxxxxx@xxxxx.x=
om> wrote:
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>>>>>>> That was modeled off the Devilfish OD.
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>>>>>>> I thought this was a Gearslutz thread at first.
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>>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 9:02 AM negativesaucer <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx=
l.com> wrote:
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>>>>>>>> whatever they modeled for the tb-03 dist.
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>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 19, 2019, 9:31 AM Boniforti Flavio <xxxxxxxxx.x@xxxxx.=
com> wrote:
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>>>>>>>>> Hi Andy.
>>>>>>>>> I was in fact "complaining" about losing volume with my Dunlop MXR=
 M104 pedal (other thread). So which pedal maintains the levels the same as t=
hey are when bypassed?
>>>>>>>>> F.
>>>>>>>>> https://soundcloud.com/bonnyfused
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>>>>>>>>>> Am Di., 19. M=C3=A4rz 2019 um 14:27 Uhr schrieb Andrew Simper <an=
xx@xxxxxxx.xxx>:
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>>>>>>>>>> Out of all the Tube Screamer pedals I recommend the TS9-DX since i=
t's the most versatile in a studio situation, but the levels vary greatly wh=
en switching modes. For live use I would go the Boss OS-2 as you get to swit=
ch between overdrive and distortion tones and the levels remain pretty const=
ant with the blend.
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>>>>>>>>>> Andy
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>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 19 Mar 2019 at 18:41, Boniforti Flavio <xxxxxxxxx.x@xxxx=
l.com> wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>>> Hi folks.
>>>>>>>>>>> While I'm waiting for the new TS-303, I started looking around f=
or an overdrive pedal for my TS-303.
>>>>>>>>>>> I've read that the Ibanez TS-808 might be the best... and I foun=
d this link:
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>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.proaudioland.com/news/differences-between-the-ibanez=
-ts808-ts9-and-ts9dx/
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>>>>>>>>>>> So, which one would you recommend? Not only Ibanez, but in gener=
al...
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>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>> F.
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>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Sent from The Off World Colonies.
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>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Jesse
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>>>>> --
>>>>> ---
>>>>> Tomislav Babic
>>>>> www.babic.com - studio, mp3, info
>>>>> xxxxxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxx.xxx
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>>>>> www.myspace.com/nimbusdei