Re: (idm) Trip Hop You Don't Stop

From mltsnt
Sent Fri, Jul 16th 1999, 20:11

At 02:32 PM 7/16/99 -0500, nordberg wrote:
>> >an issue at all, it's CULTURE. my problem is when this music is
>> >specifically watered down by suburbanites for suburban consumption.  if
>> >you're going to partake in other cultures, please have respect for the
>> >culture.  When someone feels a need to steal this culture and water it
down
>> >to make it more palatable for people of your own culture,
>>
>> where the hell did you come up with a comment like that? please explain
>> the validity of it to us all.
>
>i might be totally wrong on this, but i think
>Multsanta is referring to the fact that hip-hop
>music isn't just cool noises and slick beats.  
>Was it Chuck D? that said "Rap is the CNN of
>the street."  i don't think it's THAT outrageous
>for Multsanta to have beef with artists taking 
>the music that is tied inseparably to the urban 
>culture of america's cities, distilling the political
>and cultural element out of it completely (and please
>no one try and t ell us that there is no political 
>element in rap & hip-hop) and turning it into
>an uncharged, sterilized + acceptable way for
>white folks to 'get their groove on.'  
>
>i don't really think anyone is saying trip-hop
>or whatever is ethically wrong or anything, just
>that trip-hop and other caucasion attempts at 
>harnessing the spirit of hip-hop just don't do
>it for most people with an intimate attachment
>to hip-hop and the culture it is borne of.

thank you! rjyan hit the nail on the head there. 
when i wrote that previous post it was 2:30 am and i really wasn't
communicating my ideas properly. it didn't occur to me that i was speaking
to people who have no concept of the extreme cultural value of hip hop (no
offense)

np: mr. bungle- california... this is excellent. everyone get this now.