Re: (idm) a tight-arsed mailing list?

From Crtrdge003
Sent Tue, Jun 15th 1999, 00:53

In a message dated 6/14/99 4:55:59 PM Mountain Daylight Time, 
xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx writes:

> 
>  My reasons for subscribing to the list?
>  First of all it was the seeminly un-ending possibilities for obtaining new
>  music by either trading or buying that really attracted me to IDM. I have
>  never had so much new music to get into in my 15 odd years of collecting 
and
>  listening to the stuff.
>  Now its more than that -  its the wealth of information that is posted
>  daily. I've discovered so many labels in the past few months including the
>  likes of Chocolate Industries, Schematic and Worm Interface. To me that can
>  only be a good thing, broaden my horizons and all that...
>  I put alot of faith in the recommendations of most people on the list, most
>  recently in the reviews of the Dated CD from Toshoklabs. My faith has been
>  rewarded yet again as it is an awesome CD.
>  THATS why I'm on the list - my need for new music.
>  Oh and listening to amusing arguements about whether AE (we're not 
worthy!!)
>  did post to the list or not...
>  
>  Wenger Boy
>  

yeah too bad for me I spend more time making music than collecting it.. I 
want to collect music in the future but right now all my money goes toward my 
music (weed goes under music catagory). I use the list much the same as you 
do, I came to it as a resource.. i simply do not use this resource as much as 
you do. Your obsession is music as well as mine, it's just I am more obsessed 
with exploring the sound I can create.. or do you make music as well?
I'm just lazy.. my bullshit is unjustified, maybe I was feeling a little 
co-orest (or however you spell that, but I think that's a pretty creative 
spelling) by ae's post to do some mindless idm-bashing.
But here's what I was thinking in the car just a few minutes ago (listening 
to music of course) if I can remember the gist of it..

put yourself in Ae's place..
You've got this whole list of people who supposadly.. even though this is 
very *unofficial* so I don't want to hear a bunch of cries later about it, 
but from a general perspective, this group, to this 1000 some odd folk, 
Autechre is practically a brand name. And for good reason, Autechre's music 
has alot of something in it, something I'd rather discuss only in person to 
delve into the depths of but not here, not now, because that's not what this 
post is about. But this something has stirred up a few good minds I will tell 
you that. And Ae of course are not the only great musicians on this earth but 
they are good and they are genuine. Oh now isn't that just a little too 
mooshy and mushy for the idm list..  but anyways...
so there's this list of people who listen to this music and Ae is a big deal 
to them.. but how could Ae become a part of this list. Now this is all just 
stormed from my brain, it's all theorectical.. (it has to be I'm on idm)
we know Sean and Rob have been reading the list, that much can be assumed.. 
but how much who knows, who cares. What we do know is that they've thought 
about the idea of becoming comfortable with communicating on the list, 
perhaps even on a regular basis. 
Sean and Rob invisioned themselves coming onto this list as regulars..
it weirded them out to think of the multitude of geeky worshipers who would 
be reading their words drooling at every drop.. every letter...  what would 
this be like?? who would they repsond to? would they only post to the list, 
but not take responses? or would they only respond to a select few? would it 
develop into some kind of strange monarchy? .... erk.... and I quote

"don't go there don't go there don't go there don't go there don't go there 
don't 
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there don't go there don't go there don't go there don't go there don't go 
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go there don't go there don't go there don't go there don't go there don't go 
there don't go there don't go there don't go there don't go there don't go 
there"

The most recent conversations I've had on the list have been with some of the 
most mature and inspiring people I've yet met here. Perhaps Sean and Rob 
acted too hastily.. if they only gave their insites and kept the exchange of 
information low.. oh wait.. but then.. who would they choose to respond 
to?.... 
Yes, it's probably in their best interests not to get involved in the list. 
There has to be a seperation of celebrities and their public. It just 
wouldn't work, it'd end up being like some kind of secret club.. those people 
who could talk to Ae and those who couldn't. Sean and Rob don't want it like 
that, god who could indure such bullshit. (not that I've ever met them)
But a message to Sean and Rob, I'm sure you must know there is a multitude of 
great people out there and some of them subscribe to this list.. I know you 
know that more than I do because you've actually had the chance to meet quite 
a few of them..
You can't take the list as a whole and call all of it's contents shit... I'm 
sure you already know that, but as the same thing I have been guilty of 
myself, you needed to react on what you felt was right at the time.
I'm not in depth on this list or your personality enough to truly know what 
bothered you but what I said above it what it seems like. I imagined it 
instantly,.. I could see both of you hands stretched out palms pointing 
towards the floor rotating your wrists "don't go there don't go there don't 
go there don't go there don't go there don't go there don't go there don't go 
there don't go there don't go there don't go there don't go there don't go 
there don't go there don't go there don't go there don't go there don't go 
there don't go there don't go there don't go there don't go there don't go 
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there don't go there don't go there don't go there don't go there don't go 
there don't go there don't go there don't go there don't go there don't go 
there don't go there don't go there don't go there don't go there"

repeating it over and over, don't EVEN go there, don't even think a 
neuron-spark about it.. I know why, you couldn't do that, you can't do that, 
it'd be vain, it'd be all eyes on you, it's bad enough now, but this would 
put you in some kind of weird thing where'd you'd be doing it on a regular 
basis.. afterall.. that's gotta be it.. either you're in or you're out.., 
either you're a part of the list, or you're not.. it'd be self defeating, 
it'd be suicide, don't EVEN go there, don't even TOUCH that.. ha
well I understand in that aspect,.. there are alot of good people on this 
list.. You know that, I'm sure.. there are some annoying bitches too (like 
little trin bitch).. but all in all it's really not that bad of a list. I 
agree with David, it's not, no matter what past shit I've said. I say alot, I 
don't always say the right thing? So how can you trust what I'm saying? Don't 
trust another's words, only take what your own heart tells you is wisdom. 
With that in mind, this post is done phep 
................,
                  aaron