From Jason Proctor Sent Sun, Sep 29th 2019, 17:34
From Jason Proctor Sent Sun, Sep 29th 2019, 17:34
Well of course, but that's true of any voltage. The point is that the level input has no way of interpreting a 1v/oct protocol in the way that an exponential pitch input does. On Sun, Sep 29, 2019 at 10:31 AM DJ Maytag <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote: > > You could route 1V/oct to the Dual ADSR=E2=80=99s level controls. The hig= her the pitch, the stronger the effect of the envelope. > > http://www.instagram.com/djmaytag > http://www.soundcloud.com/djmaytag > https://choon.co/artists/djmaytag/ > > > ________________________________ > From: Jason Proctor <xxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> > Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2019 12:08 PM > To: DJ Maytag > Cc: John Emond; Quincas Moreira; Tristan; Dustin Sedlacek; Analog Heaven > Subject: Re: [AH] Why isnt everything 1 v/o ? > > I don't see any mention of 1v/oct in the Dual ADSR docs. The level > input is a linear input to the output VCA. Some looping envelopes have > 1v/oct inputs to use them as VCOs, but although the Dual ADSR does > loop, it doesn't have any CV control of envelope timings. > > Perhaps OP can give us some indication of what he might expect from > 1v/oct on inputs other than exponential VCO/VCF etc? > > On Sun, Sep 29, 2019 at 8:34 AM DJ Maytag <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote: > > > > I=E2=80=99m pretty sure that=E2=80=99s 1V/oct modulating ENV amount and= /or timing, as I mentioned. Now that I think of it, I think there=E2=80=99s= an input to Intellijel=E2=80=99s Dual ADSR that could be used to scale the= ADSR intensity by sending it 1V/oct. > > > > http://www.instagram.com/djmaytag > > http://www.soundcloud.com/djmaytag > > https://choon.co/artists/djmaytag/ > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: John Emond <xxx.xxx@xxxxxx.xxx> > > Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2019 10:21 AM > > To: Quincas Moreira > > Cc: DJ Maytag; Tristan; Dustin Sedlacek; Analog Heaven > > Subject: Re: [AH] Why isnt everything 1 v/o ? > > > > What about Keyfollow on the Jupiter 8 envelopes? > > > > Cheers, > > > > John > > > > On Sep 29, 2019, at 9:17 AM, Quincas Moreira <xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> wrote: > > > > 1v/oct is a standard for tuning pitches. That makes sense in exponentia= l inputs of VCOs and VCFs, everything else is simply measured in voltages, = and sometimes the response curve, like log, lin or expo. In my experience m= ost cv outputs in eurorack 10vpp, being 0 to 10v if positiv only, and -5 to= +5 if bipolar, though there are plenty that output double that (-10 to 10)= . Inputs often can be set to respond linearly or log/expo and often go thro= ugh attenuverters. And a system is never complete without utilities for con= ditioning voltages to what you need. I have quite a few voltage processors = myself which I use for attenuation, inversion, offset, amplification, mixin= g etc... > > > > Sent from my iPad > > > > On Sep 29, 2019, at 12:09 AM, DJ Maytag <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote: > > > > The only use I could see for a 1V/oct input on a VCA is if you want som= e intentional bleed/droning as you play higher up on the keyboard. > > > > The second use wouldn=E2=80=99t be on the VCA itself, but on an envelop= e/ADSR controlling a VCA. The higher the pitch, the shorter the overall env= elope timing. > > > > > > > > http://www.instagram.com/djmaytag > > http://www.soundcloud.com/djmaytag > > https://choon.co/artists/djmaytag/ > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: Tristan <xx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx.xx> > > Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2019 8:26 PM > > To: Dustin Sedlacek > > Cc: Analog Heaven > > Subject: Re: [AH] Why isnt everything 1 v/o ? > > > > I presume by 1 v/o you mean 1 volt per octave. While this makes sense f= or oscillator or filter cutoff > > frequency it does not necessarily make sense for a VCA or other module = without a common unit of > > calibration. A VCA could have a logarithmic, linear or other non-linear= control law for the gain. To calibrate > > a logarithmic control to 1V/6dB gives a gain range of 60dB over the typ= ical 0-10V control source range > > which is not adequate to fully cut off the sound. To allow for this a V= CA will often have a voltage mixer for > > the input control voltages to allow them to be scaled to the desired co= ntrol depth. > > > > /Tristan > > > > On Sun, Sep 29th, 2019 at 10:29 AM, Dustin Sedlacek <xxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xx= ail.com> wrote: > > > > > Every time I talk to eurorack guys about 1 v/o VCA or wavefolder they= don't > > > seem to understand why anyone would want that. > > > > > > Isnt control the thing that everyone wants? > > > > > > What about 1v/o inputs are not desirable? Is their something I am not > > > understanding? > > > > > > > > >