From mltsnt Sent Tue, Sep 15th 1998, 03:53
From mltsnt Sent Tue, Sep 15th 1998, 03:53
At 06:05 PM 9/14/98 +0000, boomboomkids wrote: >CHART RUNNERS- V/vm (after 30seconds I pulled the needle off) SOMEONE >TAKE THIS off my hands I paid $15 for it! > >GESCOM minidisc I HAVE TWO SEALED copies of this useless thing. I paid >$17 for each. > >THRID EYE FOUNDATION vs. V/vm SPLIT 12" $10 (played half of each side, >more crap) > >what the fuck is up with all this nonsence digital sounding noise. I >mean I like crunchy digi sound, but man do something with it! And that >V/vm what the fuck is this shit! that x-mas 7" was funny an all, but >everything I've heard since is disgusting! The problem is that your NOT LISTENING TO IDM!! just because autechre puts out a record it shouldn't automatically be idm... 'but they were on artificial intelligence six years ago- how can they have changed genres!!" just because an artist collaberates with skam shouldn't make everything else they do idm from now until eternity. Slap any other title on these records and they'd shunned here, but no.. because '3000 of the smartest people in the world' (quoting the SKA010 write up at forced exposure... are there really 3000 of us!?) say so, it's IDM, even though only 2/3rds of those letters are correct Don't get me wrong, i really do love V/Vm, but i really don't think chart runners is IDM, since there's not a single element of DANCE, RHYTHM, whatever in it. Avant-Garde? Yes. Experimental? Yes. Industrial? Maybe. IDM? Probably Not. IDM _INFLUENCED_? Yes. But Madonna claims to be idm influenced, should we all post are want lists for the variant version 23 Austrailian import of 'Like A Virgin' on this list now? No. But that's what you get when you start labeling music, people. It's not just _MUSIC_, it's not just _Dance Music_, it's _Intelligent Dance Music_... >old NEW ELECTRONICA isn't that an oxymoron? ;-) >ps: I bought these titles cuz the IDM list hyped em enough to spawn my >interest, I think I'll have to dig deeper from now on! well, maybe the issue is that people aren't descriptive enough in their posts. Maybe instead of saying 'get the new v/vm it kicks ass' you should write a quick review and at least get the basic idea across. Once you've been around here long enough you'll find the people with similar musical tastes whose faves you can always agree with. Or maybe it's just that too many people on this list are closed minded big time. I also think that the people who have discovered this music from a 'typical' techno/dance standpoint have a tendency to get into the 'this is as experimental as i get' rut. (No offence to anyone). For example, my pre-idm days were spent split between hip-hop and industrial (and i still listen to both quite a bit), which puts IDM at a sort of middle ground for me, giving a bit of room for motion in either direction (like the people on this list who think the rawkus cats and dr. octagon are too 'un-intelligent'). or maybe it's just a stoopid little rant i'm going off too heavily on... maybe i can end it with an 'unsubscr*be idm' like many more of the smartest people in the world before myself (stuart, datatheif, gil...). or maybe not NP: DONT DOLBY: 05 (Gefreim) [NOT IDM! IMHO] mlt.