Re: [AH] 2.0000024 MHz Top Octave Source Oscillator blown

From Kenny Balys
Sent Thu, Apr 19th 2018, 14:05

Hi Dave,

Thanks for the advice.

The variable inductor is still micro Henry'ing but is no longer 
variable. The twisty thingy inside has failed. The Hohner master 
oscillator inductor is a small vertical box that is sealed in a can so I 
cannot get in there without destroying it.

So what I have now is a stable top octave source oscillator that is 
stuck out of range of the secondary fine tuning pot.

I have decided to get a full set of silver mica 200pf to 300pf 
capacitors, trying different combos until I get a stable master clock 
frequency that I can tune in with the fine tune.

The fine tune on the Hohner String Performer ranges +/- 1 quarter tone. 
This should be plenty.

I think/hope this is a valid repair.

On 19.04.18 03:33 , Dave wrote:
> Hi Kenny,
>
> Tunable LC oscillators are very common, especially in older radio
> frequency circuit. The LC combination forms a resonant circuit when
> combined with a feedback amplifier creates an oscillator.
>
> I wouldn't expect an inductor like this to just die. They can be
> mechanically damaged if something hits them, or if you attempt to change
> the tuning.
>
> You can test the inductor with an ohmmeter. It should have a fairly low
> resistance - it's just a long wire at DC.
>
> I'd be more likely to check any active components first (usually a
> transistor), and then the cap, before suspecting the inductor.
>
> -Dave
>
>
>
> On April 18, 2018 7:42:51 AM PDT, Kenny Balys <xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>
>
>     My Hohner String Performer lost tuning right at the beginning of a
>     recording session yesterday :(
>
>     I opened it up and the suspect part is a variable inductor:
>
>     Hohner part L1= BV Nr 005837
>
>     I have tracked this part down to a company called Amidon in Germany. It
>     has the following specifications:
>
>     Amidon BV Nr 005837, colour code Black, Green, Brown, 5 MHz response, L
>     = 19.6 uH, Q=120 at 1MHz, Anschluß an Stift A:5 E:4, 27 Euros price
>
>     Neato. I don't understand any of this.
>
>     If I want to get going now, can I not just bang together a 2MHz
>     oscillator with CMOS gates?
>
>     If anyone understands these things, why would a master oscillator be
>     inductor based? What benefit is it?
>
>     This thing feeds the 50240 Top Octave divider.
>
>     I checked my Crumar and it's master oscillator also sports an inductor.
>
>     The old PAIA stuff seems to mostly use CMOS gate based master
>     oscillators so at least there is
>
>     So where is the question?
>
>     Ok.... has anyone replaced an inductor based master oscillator with a
>     CMOS gate based one on a top octave divider based synth. I am shortly to
>     do just that (as a band aid)... is this nuts?
>