Re: [AH] MIDI wiring mess

From Brian Willoughby
Sent Wed, Dec 26th 2018, 20:19

Keep in mind that MIDI Thru has no delay at all. Is there a specific =
reason why you would not want to use MIDI Thru?

After you wire up your MIDI master clock to the first MIDI device in =
your studio, you can use MIDI Thru to chain all of the devices that just =
need MIDI clock and nothing else. There=E2=80=99s no need to buy a =
dedicated MIDI distribution device like the 5-THRU.

There is no difference between the electronics in a product like the =
5-THRU versus the generic MIDI Thru on a typical MIDI device. Even the =
accumulation of a 5-device MIDI chain would not add any latency compared =
to a star configuration.

There are a couple of caveats:

1) Some devices do not have MIDI Thru. You can put them at the end of =
your chain of MIDI clock only devices. Hopefully, you do not have more =
than one, because that would prevent chaining.

2) You cannot use MIDI Thru at the start of the chain, from your master =
MIDI clock, because any MIDI generated within a device only appears on =
MIDI Out, not MIDI Thru. So, the chain would start with MIDI Out, then =
continue with MIDI In to MIDI Thru, until the last device MIDI In only.

3) Although 99% of MIDI devices have MIDI Thru wired properly with 0 =
latency from MIDI In, I seem to recall hearing about a few MIDI devices =
that have CPU processing on the MIDI stream for MIDI Thru, and that =
would introduce latency. That would be in violation of the MIDI =
standards, so I hope you don=E2=80=99t have any devices like that.

4) Such a chain of MIDI clock is not conducive to ad-hoc changes to your =
MIDI setup. If you think you=E2=80=99ll frequently be changing your =
configuration, then you might want a more complicated MIDI routing =
setup. Your description makes it sound like you could wire up your =
MIDI-clocked devices once, however, and not need to revise the setup =
after that.

Brian Willoughby


On Dec 26, 2018, at 5:20 AM, Boniforti Flavio <xxxxxxxxx.x@xxxxx.xxx> =
wrote:
> Hi all!
> I'm now wiring up my studio and am facing the MIDI part...
> I do have 4 MP-88 (Miditemp) which I use to connect all devices and I =
do have 1 master MIDI clock - SBX-1
> Now, I've connected the SBX-1 to my "primary" MP-88 and thought I'd =
connect all other MP-88 interfaces duplex (MIDI IN & OUT) to the =
"primary" MP-88. This way I could distribute the MIDI clock to all =
equipment and also I would be able to route my sequencer's outputs to =
whatever synth I'd like to.
> But as I also got some devices which just need MIDI clock and nothing =
else, I was thinking about using the second MIDI output from the SBX-1, =
wire it to a "MIDI replicator" and connect to the latter only devices in =
need of a MIDI clock (MF-104M, MF-105M, Mo-FX). This way I would not =
need to occupy MIDI ports on my MP-88s "just for the sync"... And also I =
would not want to use THRU interfaces (for example to pass the MIDI =
clock from the Mo-FX to the MF-104M or similar).
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> What are your thoughts about the above idea? Am I going the wrong =
path? Did I miss something?
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> Thanks for your replies,
> Flavio.