Re: (idm) what i have learned today from idm.

From zimbo
Sent Tue, Feb 16th 1999, 03:18



discaimer:

all of my comments below were in jest at the generalizations being thrown
around about:

girls
"idm" 
boys
folks who like idm
music
ravers
live music
"intelligence in music"
etc..

and were not directed just at daniel, but toward a thread i find a bit
silly... and to some degree insulting.

thats all :)

oh. and in NO way was i suggesting that more complex music is more
intelligent.  we should all know by now that intelligence and idm dont mix
:) 

love,

chris.


On Mon, 15 Feb 1999, 9-5 Superspy wrote:

> 
> zimbo <xxxx@xxx.xxx> wrote:
> 
> > today i learned that if im a boy and i want to woo a girl, i do not take
> > her to a live idm gig because all she will want to do is socialize.  At
> > such an event, socializing will be hard on the young miss because all
> > the smelly boys will intimdate her with their ability to stare at a
> > laptop.
> 
> Your missing my point. Most 'IDM' events I've been to consist of
> elitist sweaty guys bobbing thier heads up and down staring intently at
> laptops while muttering about rare records. If somone is only passively
> interested in what's happening, then I doubt they'd find much value in it.
> Most of the women we know fall under this category. 
> 
> If we went to a free jazz show that we had a passive interest in and
> everyone there was a jazz snob, staring intently at the musicians and
> talking about rare 60's outtakes we  had no connection with, it'd take
> alot to get us there again.
> 
> > if you want to successfully bring a girl to like idm, you must coax her
> > into it.  put on something simple -- nothing too complex, she may not be
> > able to handle the deeper aspects of the intelligent music us boys like.
> 
> Now you're being silly. First off, why is the fucked up gescom record more
> "deep" or "intelligent" than something with melody or emotion? I find alot
> more "depth" or meaning in music with a thematic element than psychotic
> garbled beats. Most of the women we know tend to appreciate melodic or
> emotive elements in music more than the mere disjointed rhythmic
> qualities that seem to permeate IDM.
> 
> But then, if you view "emotive", "thematic" or "melodic" elements as
> being "simple" or inferior "girl" stuff, then you've got a problem. Clicky
> fucked up programming isn't necessarily better than feeling. It's fun for
> the left brain, but does little for the right. 
> 
> simple girl music on now: dreamfish
> (it's not a gay thing, just an ambient thing)
> 
> -Daniel
> xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx
> 
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