From Zombiefly Sent Wed, Oct 22nd 2014, 19:20
From Zombiefly Sent Wed, Oct 22nd 2014, 19:20
if your friend had a fantastic dyson vacuum, you could borrow it, listen to it for a bit while it vacuums the fook out of your floor and make a decision on purchasing your own... i still maintain that i purchase what i want to after downloading. if i think something is ok but not worthy of buying then i keep it. If i don't like it then i delete it. If some track i haven't bought comes up on random play a year later and i like it, it'll trigger me to go look what this artist is doing now and the cycle starts again. This means an artist repeatedly gets my attention and there is a possibility i will purchase his work the next time round. Sometimes i find a release doesn't do it for me, then a year later it does, so i'll buy it then. i've tried the likes of spotify etc to replace this method, but the playlists contain too much generic stuff i don't like, so these services aren't right for my needs. ??? On 22/10/2014, Jared Dunne <xxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> wrote: > "I'm going to steal a vacuum. If I like it, I'll go buy another one > because I feel like supporting the people that made it."-- said no one ev= er > > Just because music, books, movies are digital, and easily stolen, shouldn= 't > make it a justifiable crime. > > And, as a way of life, I've never been one who thinks much of the idea > that: > > I know it's probably not right. But I can't help to change it. So I'll > just go with the rest of the sheep. I'll just push that guilt so deep do= wn > that not only does it become non-existent, it'll also become a source of > pride for my ignorance. > > If this is considered being on a "high horse", giddyup bitches. > > On Oct 22, 2014 1:38 PM, "Laurent Knauth" <xxxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> > wrote: > >> As Sham said, <<*people think of themselves as good and moral*>>. This i= s >> how i might see myself for eating veggy, but definitely not as being >> <<urban>> -- i eat organic but have a unecological way of life, having a >> cellphone (even though it's a cheap one that i almost never use) and a >> computer assembled by poor people for the antipodes ; on top of that, i'= m >> French and as such, taking advantage of <<Fran=C3=A7afrique>>, even thou= gh i'm >> not >> responsible for it and find it more than regrettable. >> >> Now, sorry if my contribution seemed a little provocative, but then >> piracy >> concerns appear subjective and insoluble to me -- until some legal >> package >> ultimately gets the afterword, like it happened with sampling. >> >> Yet, even though it finally has a legal framework, the legitimacy of >> sampling remains hard to define to me so far. In one case, i'm tempted t= o >> think that sampling a whole bar is going too far, but then of course it >> depends on who does it and how. On the other end, some people think that >> even sampling a snaredrum <<only>> is already stealing, because recordin= g >> this snaredrum required a whole life of abnegation. >> >> Like many people here, i'm hoping to make some music that deserves some >> <<commercial>> release one day. >> And like many people here, i'm listening to illegal music a lot, which i >> generally don't like so i have no problem about it. >> Sure, there are Youtube, Spotify and other <<legal>>-likes which i also >> use >> an awful lot, but many <<serious>> people see them as the fatal blow >> dragging >> down the music industry. >> >> Until Universal Music trully deserves its name -- i.e. they'd stream >> about >> each and every existing music catalog on earth --, maybe only lossless >> audio >> should be forbidden ? >> >> On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 3:58 PM, Esa Juhani Ruoho <xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> >> wrote: >> >>> This is like a can of worms type discussion that just doesn't stop. >>> >>> What, we've moved from Torrent piracy to sampling, is it illegal, >>> should >>> it be allowed, what if it shouldn't be. when is sampling a sample >>> piracy, >>> when is it theft, >>> .... >>> and >>> .... >>> when is it arson? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> --- >>> http://lackluster.bandcamp.com >>> http://lackluster.org >>> http://esaruoho.tumblr.com >>> iPhone: +358403703659 >>> >>> On 22 Oct 2014, at 16:55, Laurent Knauth <xxxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Correct me if i'm wrong, but Luke Vibert took over other people's music >>> before he ever got a chance to get pirated. >>> Now of course, that's a different story - or not ? >>> >>> On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 7:59 AM, Esa J. Ruoho <xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Sham, I remember Luke Vibert saying to The effect that that is exactly >>>> what People mention to him at The drop of a hat. >>>> Luke Vibert. >>>> >>>> Sent from some iDevice. Written by Esa. >>>> >>>> > On 22 Oct 2014, at 02:45, Sham Beam <xxxx.xxxx@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:. >>>> > >>>> > If you met your favorite muso in a bar would you mention you >>>> downloaded their entire discography? >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> >>> >>> > --=20 _____________________________________________ Sent from my Sinclair ZX Spectrum 48K _____________________________________________ noise I make: http://www.soundcloud.com/pushkin http://www.last.fm/music/Pushkin noise I like: http://www.last.fm/user/zombiefly sites I run: http://www.ctran.co.uk http://o-fu-online.net -------------------------------