From Tom Bugs Sent Sun, Feb 17th 2019, 18:48
From Tom Bugs Sent Sun, Feb 17th 2019, 18:48
Umm, well, actually - in the recent Tears for Fears auction I didn't get a look in at the H3000 I wanted due to the spending power of Uli B! On 17/02/2019 10:47, Peter Forrest wrote: > There's an interesting variation of auction systems called 'Dutch auction' - in the UK at least - it might be called English auction in the Netherlands for all I know. > Basically the auction starts at a high price and then goes down until someone jumps in. > It must be incredibly tense in a live room, looking round at your rivals and waiting to see a sign that they are going to bid. > But it requires the auctioneer to know a price which is higher than an item could possibly reach - not always easy - plus you don't get competitive bidding in the same way. > I guess you could have a variation of this where the bidding could then start going up again if there was competition. > As for supply and demand, in the current world there are a tiny tiny proportion of people for whom price is almost irrelevant - they have so much money from bitcoin or London property or merchant banking or oil or whatever that 10000s are like tens to most ordinary people. You just have to hope they don't want the things you want. > At least thanks to Uli B we can have impressive knock-offs of classics at ultra-reasonable prices. > Peter > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Brian Willoughby [mailto:xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx] > Sent: 17 February 2019 02:50 > To: Analog Heaven > Subject: Re: [AH] ARP2600P with 3604 Duophonic Keyboard and 1613 Arp Sequencer > > There’s the basic rule of economics: Supply versus Demand. As the supply of money goes up (all countries are increasing the supply of their fiat monies), prices go up. The only exception are advances in efficiency which cause prices to go down. Meanwhile, as the supply of money goes up, the supply of ARP 2600 synths is slowly diminishing. > > I don’t see how this can be blamed on credit cards. It’s unsustainable to continue to buy things just because credit cards allow instant access to money. At some point, people have to pay for their synths - plus interest! > > There’s also the principle of “clearing the market.” There may be only one person out there who really wants an awesome example of a 2600 with sequencer, but if it’s offered at a lower price then lots of people will try to buy it and it might not go to the person who’ll most appreciate it. Whether you have millions of similar items or just one, you start at a high price and keep lowering it until you’ve sold all of the inventory (or you find that it’s better to just keep the remaining inventory at the final price). > > On Feb 16, 2019, at 6:40 PM, Justin Maxwell <xxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote: >> Or we can go with Occam's razor and say that prices have gone up because demand has gone up. >> >> There's a slight twist in that auction sites are driving prices way up as sellers offset fees with higher prices, but if someone is paying $x for a synth it's worth $x to them, as simple as that. >> >> On Feb 16, 2019 at 6:36 PM, <Frank Bonarrigo> wrote: >>> No, Im just suspicious of the cost of gear in general. Been into buying gear since the early 90’s and the only conclusion I can come with is people are buying with credit cards. Which makes people buy with less pause ,I think, and prices go up. >>> >>> >>> Not that your arp is not worth what you are asking. Its awesome > -- BugBrand LTD UK company No. 07199808 VAT No. GB 988 2629 57 1 Ninetree Hill BRISTOL BS1 3SB United Kingdom www.bugbrand.co.uk --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com