From Brian Willoughby Sent Sun, May 5th 2019, 04:48
From Brian Willoughby Sent Sun, May 5th 2019, 04:48
What the hell do you do with it? <sarcasm> =E2=80=A6 one millionth of what can be done with the original Buchla = Thunder. </sarcasm> Seriously. The Buchla Thunder could have a sequencer programmed, per = control, so that each time you play that one control, another note comes = out. These Riffs have up to 99 steps each, and there are 8 per config = (so you couldn=E2=80=99t literally have a sequence on all 13 of the main = controls). Controls could be programmed to affect other controls, = particular the sequencers. There are also control groups where sliding = from one control to the other would increase the value sent, and sliding = in the opposite direction would decrease the value sent, allowing = circular motions on the touch surface when moving between controls. It = was designed to support microtonal scales, not just 12-tone. It can = control synths on all 16 MIDI channels at once. These features are part of the Thunder operating system, called Storm. = So, what I=E2=80=99m really saying is that without Storm, you can only = do a fraction of what Buchla designed the Thunder to accomplish. The only time I saw a Buchla Thunder on stage was Mark Isham performing = solo (not with Group 87 or any of the other lineups he contributed to). = His use of the Thunder was purely to control multiple effects parameters = on his horn. I don=E2=80=99t think that a single one of the controls on = his Thunder was set to a Note. Maybe some folks have recommendations for fixed scales that you can = program on the Sensel Thunder, but in my experience the Buchla Thunder = community is full of performers who each use the controller in an = entirely unique way. I=E2=80=99m not familiar with the 223e, or whether it has any of the = features of Storm. Translating that MW comment to the original Buchla = Thunder would mean that the melody could be programmed into a Riff and = assigned to a single control. Then, other controls could be programmed = to affect the octave or other intervals in the first Riff. Then, of = course, Riffs can contain duo-tones, triads, and any kind of chord for a = single touch. By the time you did this, you=E2=80=99d still have a lot = of controls left! Looks like the 223e does have the ability to toggle = controls (like the division enables). Brian On May 4, 2019, at 8:05 PM, Justin Maxwell <xxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote: >=20 > hi all -=20 >=20 > [i=E2=80=99m totally ignorant here alert] >=20 > so, i got that sensel buchla thunder during one of my usual =E2=80=9Cmy = imagination fills in the gaps and then i end up kind of disappointed=E2=80= =9D buying experiences. >=20 > it=E2=80=99s interesting. i am not convinced the size and texture is = optimal, but bluetooth/wireless and mpe is pretty fun so far. >=20 > so my question is really this: i am not into the default note layouts = at all. for those of you using the thunder or the 223e, what are your = optimal tunings/scales? >=20 > ideally i want this in a minor pentatonic (i.e., every 90s warp record = black keys) but i=E2=80=99m not quite grasping what the hell to do with = it. any advice would be appreciated. >=20 > This comment on MW is i think what would be the most fun: >=20 >> I gave up on trying to program in standard scales, but if you must, I = would use the radio outputs, one per oscillator for best results.=20 >>=20 >> Instead my favorite 223e programming scheme lately is to program in a = melody on the left half. 1st note of the melody on left, 2nd to the = right after that, etc., harmonically related notes on the right half = usually an octave above, but it really doesn't matter as the oscillator = can be tuned however. SO basically custom scales per preset.=20 >>=20 >> I mainly play duo-tones and not many triads at all. I have about a = 1/3-1/2 of my presets set this way. The other buttons on the pad I use = to turn on and off things (like the Ratchet's division enables).=20 >=20