From Nate Harrison Sent Tue, Aug 24th 1999, 16:19
From Nate Harrison Sent Tue, Aug 24th 1999, 16:19
On Tue, 24 Aug 1999, Jason J. Tar wrote: > >wake up on the wrong side of the turntable? > > No, just wondering what the point of this list is if people are gonna be > greedy with their info. hmmm I don't get the greedy part. I see Grooves as only helping to spread info. I agree that perhaps someone could have explained on IDM what the deal with Funkstorung was instead if simply saying 'buy the mag', I guess this is what I tried to do, but still... > > >without magazines like grooves (and e.x.p), the electronic music we listen > >to would not get exposure (especially in the states). > > Maybe I'm just cynical, but I doubt small zines really add that much > exposure. (Though I guess if we stopped spreading info via word of mouth > and simply said "Have a question...BUY the mag!", then maybe.) More like > "Preaching to the converted". > I think small zines like Grooves add a good degree of exposure. I know plenty of people who are not on IDM who don't keep up with the Jones' but instead rely on things like small mags for checking new stuff out. I have had quite a few poeple compliment my article who are not on IDM and that gave me a warm fuzzy:) You are partially right in 'preaching to the coverted'. There's a lot of stuff in the mags (Grooves in particular) that I already knew, but then again there quite a bit of stuff I don't know too much about that I learned. And I don't mean to keep stressing this, but I think a lot of people take for granted the amount of info that passes though this list. This list is great for keeping up with obscure stuff, especially with people like Lance, Greg, Pietro, Andrew Duke, (too many to list all). But if you are not web savvy/whatever and are not on IDM how do you learn about these things. A friend of mine runs a local IDM shop here and is very knowledgable but still I know about things he has not heard of- he gets some of his info through mags like Grooves... > > >The idm list does not compromise the buying public. For two dollars and > fifty cents you can > >get the mag. That is hardly money grubbing. > > Or for free, I could get the info via the list. > My point wasn't to slag the zine. My point was that it is rather pathetic > that someone's question gets answered with "The answer to your question is > here...buy it!", instead of simply answering the question. Does everything > have to be an advertisement? that's a fair point... > > >Support indies (in all art forms) or start listening to something else... > > Again being cynical, but most indies are simply money grubbing bastards as > well. Screw the labels, screw the magazines, screw all those riding on the > backs of the artists. Support the people making the sounds and help those > looking to find good sounds, and then things will be all right. > it just doesn't work that way...I wish it did but that to me sounds like some utopian netherworld. I've met Sean I woundn't put him in the 'money grubbing bastards' category. In fact I can only see him in the group of people 'helping those to find good sounds'...I think Sean or anyone doing something for this small scene is smart enough to know that if they want to become money grubbing bastards starting some IDM zine is not exactly going to take them from rags to riches:) just my .02 Nate > JJTar. > > --- > Peace Hugs and Unity Jason J. Tar > W. W. J. D? > (What would Jason Do?) > http://www.msu.edu/user/tarjason > xxx@xxxxxxxx >