Re: (idm) Negativland/Fatboy Slim sample tiff

From Rodney Perkins
Sent Thu, Sep 10th 1998, 20:52

How can Negativland make a claim on a sample of something they apparently
*sampled* from someone else w/o permission? Perhaps it would have been
ethical of SST (who aren't known for that) to give the group part of the
proceeds but given Negativland's flippancy towards people who try to get
royalties for samples, its laughable that they would complain. They ended up
on the other side of the issue and got screwed.

Also, I was under the impression that Negativland did not have any rights to
the material they released on SST. Someone correct me if I am wrong.

I hate to be so negative towards these fellows but they are really asking
for it.

>It seems to me that the problem here isn't at all about samples, but about
>SST not giving Negativland money they should be getting, which would piss me
>off, too....
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>np: Negativland: (the song they got in trouble for, whatever it;s called :)
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>At 08:30 AM 10 - 09 - 1998 +0000, you wrote:
>>I thought after all of Negativland's recent sloganeering about fair us" and
>>such, the following article from the 9/9/98 edition of Allstar News puts
>>this group of "radicals" in the proper light. If it were April Fool's Day,
>>this would all make sense. Dilettantes...
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>>Negativland -- the outspoken outfit against paying rights for samples --
>>sent out a cranky press release Tuesday (Sept. 1) complaining about Fatboy
>>Slim's use of one of their samples in the song "Michael Jackson" in a Coke
>>commercial. While Negativland believes people shouldn't have to pay to
>>sample others, they're not too happy that their work ended up in a Coke
>>spot. But, the thing is, it didn't. Only the instrumental part of "Michael
>>Jackson," which is on Fatboy Slim's 1997 album Better Living Through
>>Chemistry, is used in the spot. The song samples from Negativland's own
>>"Michael Jackson" from their 1987 SST album Escape from Noise. And while
>>Fatboy Slim did pay SST ($1000) for permission to use the sample,
>>Negativland claims SST is keeping the money for themselves, though, adds
>>that the group would've given it to them for free anyway (again, that's
>>their thing). The sample in question was actually stolen by a Negativland
>>member from the basement of a church in Concord, Calif. in the '70s. Fatboy
>>Slim's label, Astralwerks, had no comment. And, seeing that Fatboy Slim (aka
>>Norman Cook) is a big fan of Negativland, we're sure the release (which
>>states that he "stupidly" went to SST Records to get permission to use the
>>sample) would upset him a bit. The Coke spot starts airing on television
>>Sept. 7 for three months and is part of a major NFL campaign, which includes
>>a contest to send people to the Super Bowl.. 
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