Re: [microsound] Books on DSP?

From visa
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Now that we're on the topic, I'd like to ask for any experiences or opinions
people might have with the following books dealing with computer music:

 - Charles Dodge and Thomas A. Jerse:
Computer Music: Synthesis, Composition, and Performance
 - Composing Music with Computers (Music Technology Series)
 - Sound Synthesis and Sampling (Music Technology Series)

I've heard some recommendations for each one, but haven't seen them pop up
on this list. I've yet to read any book dealing with computer music, and I
was wondering if one of these would be a better starting point than Roads'
CMT? Or if CMT is the preferred first read, whether it would still be
worthwhile to read some of these for something CMT did not cover...


Visa


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on 6/28/04 11:27 PM, Kim Cascone at xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx wrote:

> I'm looking for a small analog synth with a keyboard, lots of knobs and a
> built-in speaker...battery and/or AC powered is ok...something like the
> monophonic SH-101 but smaller...a kit is ok...something like the
> Technosaurus Microcon II but with a keyboard would be perfect...
> as I've not been following the synth hardware market for a long time I am
> unaware of what strange little synth toys might be lurking about...anyone
> recommend something?
> thanks in advance!
> KIM
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micro korg i believe ,it small, sounds good too..


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Thanks Malte,

I have the Computer Music book and it's very good but not enough anymore. I 
tried buying the csound book over a year ago but amazon (uk) couldn't get 
it. There seems to be some good priced secondhand ones that would be cheaper 
to pay postage on fram the states.  The DSP primer I hadn't come across and 
looks very interesting, perhaps I can get this second hand also.

Thanks for your help, much appreciated.

Best
Murray


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>maybe my recommended booksite is from interest:
>
>http://block4.com/research/edu/literature.html
>
>Cheers,
>
>Malte
>--
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maybe my recommended booksite is from interest:

http://block4.com/research/edu/literature.html

Cheers,

Malte
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i want to thank ALL the people involved to make happen the madrid 
project!
mill gracias
paz
J21

On Jun 30, 2004, at 8:32 AM, Kim Cascone wrote:

> microsounders,
> - after a period of finding, training and coordinating our new web 
> team we
> finally have the Madrid page up...check it out!
> http://microsound.org/madrid/
> - obviously now that the kinks are being worked out new projects are
> expected to go live much quicker...so I will announce new a project in 
> the
> next few weeks...
> major kudos to our new web team!! thanks to all and good work! :)
> KIM

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Thanks Kim & all
Good job. Congrats.

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De: Kim Cascone <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Fecha: Miercoles, Junio 30, 2004 5:32 pm
Asunto: [microsound] Madrid page is finally up!

> microsounders,
> - after a period of finding, training and coordinating our new web 
> team we
> finally have the Madrid page up...check it out!
> http://microsound.org/madrid/
> - obviously now that the kinks are being worked out new projects are
> expected to go live much quicker...so I will announce new a 
> project in the
> next few weeks...
> major kudos to our new web team!! thanks to all and good work! :)
> KIM
> 
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friday july 2 2004

phoniq hosts a launch for the ckut benefit cd
< modular systems FM >


featuring :

pheek - live - www.epsilonlab.com
naw - live - www.noisefactoryrecords.com
zen - live - ms zaandam

khanfucius - dj - panospria.com
cyan - dj - modular systems ckut fm

jose garcia - visuals - fifteen pounds

all happening at casa del popolo, 4873 st-laurent
for the small amount of
$5.00
$10.00 including cd
all proceeds go to ckut

for more info visit

www.phoniq.net

On July 2nd 2004, the phoniq collective hosts the launch of the <modular
systems FM> compilation. <FM> is a benefit cd for ckut-fm, featuring 7
tracks donated by montreal electronic music artists. All proceeds from the
sales of this cd goes towards the operating budget for the radio station.

the event will showcase 3 of the <FM> artists:

PHEEK, whose second release on epsilonlab records, "les autres
promeneurs", broadens his journey in music making into innovative yet
dance friendly realms.

NAW, noise factory recording artist and phoniq resident, will immerse you
in experimental and deep dub influnced techno and house.

ZEN, recently embarked from the MS Zaandam, melds together unexpected
elements of dub, experimental sounds and electronica.

phoniq residents khanfucius and cyan will open and close the night with
dj sets, and local projection artist jose garcia will construct a visual
environment via various projection sources.

BIOS/INFO

phoniq
------
www.phoniq.net

phoniq is a collective of individuals dedicated to promoting bleeding edge
electronic art in interesting variable environments, with an emphasis on
exposing aural and visual talent that has not yet been exposed to the
electronic arts communities of montreal. We aim to showcase upstart music
producers, djs, record labels and emerging visual artists all working in
electronic realms. Our foremost goal is to showcase off the wall and raw
genres of music and visual electronic arts- not just those that are
currently "en vogue" or will be shortly.

The concept for phoniq came together through the chance meeting of 2
active members of the montreal/canadian electronic music and digital arts
community: ckut-fm dj/host cyan and dub glitch techno producer naw. phoniq
has grown out of the combined histories of these 2 individuals. naw brings
the clonk legacy that he created 6 years ago in toronto, which hosted such
artists as: monolake, kit clayton and sutekh. cyan brings her ongoing
involvement in community radio (modular systems), event coordinating and
dj talents.

ckut 90.3 fm
-------------
www.ckut.ca
CKUT 90.3 FM McGill Radio Inc. is a non-profit campus community radio
station that provides alternative music, news and spoken word programming
to the city of Montreal and surrounding areas. We broadcast 24 hours a
day, every day. Hear us at 90.3 MHz on your FM dial, or 91.7 by cable, or
tune in by Real Audio over the Internet.

modular systems is an electronic music magazine show featuring new music
and interviews with local and international artists. tune in every second
Tuesday at 3pm.

pheek
-----
www.pheek.com
epsilonlab, thinner

Born in 1972, Jean-Patrice Rmillard was immediately attracted to music.
His parents recall the day when he discovered how to use a turntable and
from there on out, he would listen to old rock records endlessly. Perhaps
the most important discovery for JP was when his babysitter gave him a
Bee-Gees record for his birthday and he was introduced to dance music.
JP became interested in acid house in the late 80s and raves in early 90s,
inspiring him to DJ his own radio shows in Sherbrooke, Qubec. From his
college years to university, he played techno, house and anything exciting
to people whose ears werent as close to the ground.

Upon moving to Montreal in 1997 to study computer science, JP met Mateo
Murphy and found they shared similar musical interests. After performing a
show with Gez Varley, Mateo and JP decided to work on a live concept of
their own, based on improvising beats on the fly and mixing in other
synthesized sonic textures. It was at this point that JP adopted the name
of Pheek after a Richie Hawtin/Plastikman performance at Medialounge, a
show that would forever change his perspective on music.
After further honing their live show together, Pheek and Mateo opened for
Chain Reaction at the FCMM in 1999. They were spotted by Hautec and
offered to release a 12 inch marking a turning point in their fledgling
careers.

The few years that followed saw proposed releases on Hybrid Structure and
collaborations with Mitchell Akiyama on various projects a creative period
that proved a catalyst for JPs later success.
The next pivotal point in Pheeks career was meeting Eloi Brunelle and
subsequently being invited to join to the Epsilonlab media collective. JP
played with them since the very first night of their existence and for
almost every show to follow. His first release for Epsilonlab, 2002s
Paysages Matriciels, was a critical success and was nominated for Quebecs
prestigious ADISQ music awards.
Later that year, Pheek and Eloi toured Europe together, playing shows in
Paris, Lyon, Switzerland, Cologne and London. This trip opened up new
possibilities for the duo and they completed a second European tour the
following year.

Recently, JP teamed up with Thinner, one of the more recognized MP3
labels. As well as contributing tracks to Thinners compilations and
releasing Tabisuru Kokoro in late 2003, he has coordinated many of their
live events, including a Thinner vs. Epsilonlab showcase.
As a veteran of the Epsilonlab team, Pheek has released his second album
with the label. This will mark the beginning of a new era in the Montreal
based label as they will launch a mp3 department.

naw
---
www.noisefactoryrecords.com
aka Neil Wiernik (b.1967)

Montreal native Neil Wiernik began his explorations in electronic music
making as early as 1988. Known to push the boundaries of his musical form
from designing new or manipulating existing sound making devices and
software to creative uses of production environments and sound sources,
naws music is a blend of sound manipulation/design, experimental musics
and dub-tech rhythms, which on the surface sound quite simple, but
incorporate a number of touches that steer this artist away from being
simply another minimal techno or experimental laptop artist. He combines
post-house, dubby minimal techno, microsound and thick ambience, to create
his own version of deep techno, house and other electronic laptop orineted
musics. Neil has released music on various national and international
record labels, including releases on Noise Factory, Worthy, Complot,
Piehead, A/S Systems, Wabi and Future Rhetoric. As naw, Neil has performed
extensively along side a variety of national and international artists
both in and outside of Canada. August 2004 naw will release his follow up
noise factory records full length record called: "green nights orange
days", this record finds Neil at his deepest and dubbiest yet, the release
of this record will co inside with a series of North American and European
tour dates through out the late summer and fall of 2004.

zen
---
ms zaandam

zen nakamura currently finished a contract aboard a cruise boat as a jazz
drummer.  While he played all styles of music from the mambo, the cha-cha,
swing and other typical ballroom and lounge music, he was composing varied
styles of electronic music.  Though a dub-reggae/drum'nbass head at heart,
his studies in electroacoustics and love of most types of music influenced
his infusion of genres all across the board.

jose garcia
-----------
fifteen pounds

Life on the train, or walking in the park or watching the news.....Lying in the
grass...that sort of stuff, vultures feeding too. Geronimo's dusty desert brawl
in panavision then transfered to super 8.  the walls flap, figures sail down a
hall with brief cases. It all started in front of the Chateau Laurier, Ottawa.
a few years later and something keeps me looking around the corner.


khanfucius / scant intone
--------------------------
Constantine Katsiris (b. 1980 - Saskatoon, Canada)

Constantine has been active in exploring the electronic arts since the
early 1990s.
He became involved in the BBS scene at a young age, tracking music
modules and drawing ascii art. By 1996 he chose the alias Khanfucius and
began as a DJ, playing an assortment of strange, abstract and ambient
music at local clubs, raves and other events in the prairies.
His active involvement in the scene spawned many projects, including the
event production company Uninhibited Sound System with his fellow DJs and
the artistic collective Panospria.
Musical side projects around this time included playing laptop
and synths in the improv electronic band Mandelbrot Set and co-producing
an album as Break Fluid with Sasafras of the hip hop group Isosceles. His
first solo album as Khanfucius, The Phuzzillogikal Basement Tapes 96-98,
was compiled and released independently prior to moving to Dublin, Ireland
in 1999. This release caught the attention of radio DJ Keith Downey who
invited him to co-host

his show on Kiss FM called Psychonavigation. Keith would go on to start
Psychonavigation Records and release music by Constantine and his Canadian
associates. Upon his return to Canada, he took up residence in Ontario and
studied in the fields of audio and multimedia. Since 2001, his focus has
been fixed on his experimental music and sound-art project as Scant
Intone. Currently living in Montreal, he is working on upcoming solo and
collaborative works as well as coordinating projects for both Panospria
and Psychonavigation Records.

cyan
----
www.traktion.com
(aka Corina MacDonald)

Montreal based DJ, radio host and budding techno producer cyan was born
and raised in the western provinces of Canada. In 1994 while living in
Scotland she she was introduced to the dj culture associated with
electronic dance music and was inspired to begin exploring the art of
djing. When she returned to Canada, she decided that Montreal would be an
ideal city  to set her roots down and start exploring this approach to
music. DJ culture was not a foreign concept to her and it was a logical
extension of her ongoing work in community radio, which began in 1990 in
Calgary and continued in Montreal from 1996 on. She now co-hosts CKUT FM^s
Modular Systems: an electronic music magazine program. Her sound can best
be described as layered raw & funky, dense & deep techno rhythms,
influenced by the techno and house sounds of Detroit. cyan can be found
regularly playing at various venues in and around Montreal, and has played
alongside such artists as naw, noah pred, grannyark and lynne t. She has
recently released her 6th independently produced DJ mix called The Gravity
Protocol, which has been received in a very positive light by reviewers
and techno fans alike.
She is hard at work in the studio concocting her own variation
on electronic dance music. cyan is involved in the phoniq collective,
where she co-curates and organizes independent electronic music events
featuring local producers and visual artists, and can be seen regularly
at these events working the wheels of steel.



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Hi

Wordered if anyone could recomend a book on DSP in a musical setting.

I'm only just starting to look at DSP and have found some usefull stuff on the web but whilst looking at various textbooks recently they all seemed a lot more concerned with communications technology, RADAR and SONAR type uses etc. I have no engineering background so learning the math and equations would be a lot easier from a musical perspective. The microsound book looks good "offer[ing] composition theory, historical accounts, technical overviews, acoustical experiments, descriptions of musical works, and aesthetic reflections" but something similar concerned with DSP would be the kind of thing I'm after.

Thanks for your help

Best

Murray
(dj_spleenbaby)

Also a little bit of self promotion. A friend and I have been doing improvised guitar for a while now and are starting to improvised electronic/laptop stuff aswell. Not all of the content is finished yet but chek out (if yr intrested)

www.thelowsandthehighs.co.uk
www.plexusmusic.co.uk

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Murray;

My recommendation is to pick up the Collected Non-Fictions on Penguin.  
It's a great compendium of his film reviews, general reports, history, 
et cetera.

I did read Brodie's Report as well.  I enjoyed it.  I actually used a 
story that he wrote, an apocryphal story of Abel forgiving Cain, as an 
intellectual exercise in one of my classes.  It worked out quite well.

Considering how well-read most of the microsound listers are, I figure 
Borges should be a natural for the folks there.  I have a deep love for 
theology, surrealism and history, as well as music, so Borges seems to 
be a perfect writer, although I have to admit that he didn't sink in for 
me until the third reading of some of his works...

Best,

Rudy



murray wrote:

>Rudy,
>
>I must admit that I didn't really know about his non-fictions untill now.
>I've had a quick look on the web and they sound very interesting,
>particularly his film criticism. Let me know more if you wish.
>
>I got a great book out of my local library which was quite a large,
>collected chunk of his output in one book. I read the Aleph and quite a few
>others which I enjoyed. I found I needed a break though. I love his writing
>syle and, though I don't yet know a lot about the way Borges worked, the way
>he retold stories is absolutely amazing. The problem I found was that after
>2 or 3 books worth it seemed a bit flat, all played out one level. This
>seems counterintuitive to the mazes and labyrinths, the works are clever and
>rich, but I think I need to come back to him again after a while. Also I was
>clocking up fines and my girlfriend wasn't happy that I still hadn't started
>reading the Sarte books she bought me for my birthday last year (lack of
>time rather than will).
>
>Have you read "Brodies report"? This sounds interesting. It would also be
>good to see any changes in his development after a 20 year gap.
>
>regards
>Murray
>
>  
>
>>Murray;
>>
>>Have you read the non-fictions yet?  I've been hooken on it since
>>returning from Macedonia some months ago.  Borges' books are almost
>>impossible for me to put down.
>>
>>Best,
>>
>>Rudy
>>
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Rudy,

I must admit that I didn't really know about his non-fictions untill now.
I've had a quick look on the web and they sound very interesting,
particularly his film criticism. Let me know more if you wish.

I got a great book out of my local library which was quite a large,
collected chunk of his output in one book. I read the Aleph and quite a few
others which I enjoyed. I found I needed a break though. I love his writing
syle and, though I don't yet know a lot about the way Borges worked, the way
he retold stories is absolutely amazing. The problem I found was that after
2 or 3 books worth it seemed a bit flat, all played out one level. This
seems counterintuitive to the mazes and labyrinths, the works are clever and
rich, but I think I need to come back to him again after a while. Also I was
clocking up fines and my girlfriend wasn't happy that I still hadn't started
reading the Sarte books she bought me for my birthday last year (lack of
time rather than will).

Have you read "Brodies report"? This sounds interesting. It would also be
good to see any changes in his development after a 20 year gap.

regards
Murray

> Murray;
>
> Have you read the non-fictions yet?  I've been hooken on it since
> returning from Macedonia some months ago.  Borges' books are almost
> impossible for me to put down.
>
> Best,
>
> Rudy
>
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The designer was extremely tasteful.

Good job.

Rudy

Joakim Lindn wrote:

>Very easily navigated, very nice, very...respectful.
>
>Good job!
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>>microsounders,
>>- after a period of finding, training and coordinating our new web team we
>>finally have the Madrid page up...check it out!
>>http://microsound.org/madrid/
>>- obviously now that the kinks are being worked out new projects are
>>expected to go live much quicker...so I will announce new a project in the
>>next few weeks...
>>major kudos to our new web team!! thanks to all and good work! :)
>>KIM
>>
>>    
>>



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Very easily navigated, very nice, very...respectful.

Good job!
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> microsounders,
> - after a period of finding, training and coordinating our new web team we
> finally have the Madrid page up...check it out!
> http://microsound.org/madrid/
> - obviously now that the kinks are being worked out new projects are
> expected to go live much quicker...so I will announce new a project in the
> next few weeks...
> major kudos to our new web team!! thanks to all and good work! :)
> KIM
>
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I started a page on our new TWiki server (thanks John!) where we can post
the book lists we've been posting to the email list...check out:
http://microsound.nexthop.net/bin/view.cgi/Main/microsoundBookList
you must register FIRST before you can change or edit a page so make sure
you go to the registration page to register before attempting to post
something
have fun...FYI: help files on TWiki are in abundance via this site so RTFM
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on 6/30/04 12:45 PM, pyo.p at xxx.x@xxxx.xx wrote:

> really nice page. congrats !
> p.
 
I second that. Very nice!

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Steinbrchel, Kahn & Cascone have a CD of material that was recorded in
Ralph's studio in Zurich over the past couple of years...it's a collection
of somber reptilian atmospheres evoking the sound of dragging rusty chains
against the hulls of sunken ships...ok, maybe this description is a little
poetic but it is very glitchy and ambient...
if there are any interested labels out in microsound land that want a copy
to evaluate please contact me or
Jason Kahn <xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
off list...
thanks!
KIM


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Yes its looking good - i hope to be able to contribute to the next project

I had problems accessing the drop box for this one

Well done Kim & all

David @ www.audiobulb.com

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> on 6/30/04 12:45 PM, pyo.p at xxx.x@xxxx.xx wrote:
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>  
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sound visualization and all the different patterns (technical and
interpretative) in which is divided, forms on one side a sensorial expansion
of the acoustic part and from another side an audience entertainment more
often required as added value.The amplification process of a track with
visual interpretation  can avoid to be just a visual background created for
the occasion, but characterize itself with a more deep and flexible analysis
related to the audience feedback.Gamma Reader
<http://www.ds-x.org/_produkts/produkts/GR-v.1.sit> is a mac sofware that
use the famous homonymous Kim Cascone track to re-interpret it by a free
downloading software, working on double process (interactive or not).The
code creates a parametric structure in wich who is working with can create
an image controlling a visual loop in its rotation on multiple layers.The
layers division of the choosen image and the richness of graphic interrface
used create a process with the sound style elaboration, arriving in a not
agreed upon association  of audiovisual output.

cheers
gl
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> check out a review (in Italian) of MacOS software art using a piece of
mine
> http://www.neural.it/nnews/gammareader.htm
> anyone up to translating this review into English for the list?
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From BabelFish (because I often like bad machine translations better than 
good human ones):

"24.06.04 Range Reader, visual of one trace through parametric software.
The visualization of the sound and the thousand rivoli interpreted to you 
and technical in which it has been subdivided, it on one side constitutes 
a sensory expansion of the acoustic part, and from the other an 
entertainment of the more and more demanded spectator like added value. 
The process to widen a trace with a visual interpretation can therefore 
avoid on purpose of being a foundation for the eyes created, 
characterizing itself with a more complex and ductile analysis adapting 
itself to the feedback of the customer. Range Reader is a software for Mac 
that uses the omonima celebrated trace of Kim Cascone in order to 
interpret it through a software to himself being (liberations releasable), 
acting in the twofold interactive modality and not. The code constructs an 
parametric structure within which who it interacts to you can elaborate an 
image regulating a loop visual in its spin on multiple plans. The division 
of the plan of the chosen image and the remarkable taste of the used 
graphical interface put into effect an assonant process with the style of 
elaboration of the sound, sfociando in a society not agreed of 
audiovisional yield."

On Wed, 30 Jun 2004, Gianluca Foglino wrote:

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> 
> i can try....
> gl
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>
>> check out a review (in Italian) of MacOS software art using a piece of
> mine
>> http://www.neural.it/nnews/gammareader.htm
>> anyone up to translating this review into English for the list?
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Dear group

  interesting thread this on language and music but am i alone in 
thinking that music (without a libretto/lyrics) is semiotically empty? 
it is "just notes" and we can't generalise about the individual 
"threshold of perception" of  audience members who may or may not be 
responding to coded "puns" etc in an "intertextual" way

er, just a thought (a bit blurry tho)

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re: Also I believe you have to know something about music to enjoy music.
 Cause if no one new anything about music then why the hell do people 
have preconceptions about how music should sound. It'd be easier if we 
didn't have a bias to say 3 minute diddies.


Well, as far as preconceptions about how music should sound, those are 
fairly deep structures, in terms of the mind-brain.  We understand music
 as syntactical, in a language-like sense: phrases, motives, etc.  There's
 a book called "A Generative Theory of Tonal Music" by Ray Jackendoff 
and Fred Lerdahl, which presents some interesting notions about how the 
mind understands music in a language-like way.

i found a summary of some of these points:

http://odur.let.rug.nl/~schreudr/ppt/imatra2001b/imatra01ax6.pdf

So, although we can metaphorically speak about mapping literature to 
music, there's something lacking in music that's not in language: a deep
 sense of semantics.  Music in this sense is mostly syntax.  So we might
 be able to talk about the turnings and twistings of motives inside a 
piece of music, we can't really speak about music in the same ways that 
a symbol in a text, or a theme might be developed, as these are 
inherently tied to semantics.  Its quite difficult to talk about "meaning"
 in music.

Puns in language usually occur when there are issues in the mind 
determining the "logical type" of a phrase.  Jokes or puns are usually 
trying to access more than one logical type at the same time, or show 
some sense of "stress" or "leap" between logica types. So, i guess if we
 want to push this metaphor into music, we would probably need to say 
what we mean by "logical types" in music.  Unfortunately my brain isn't 
quite big enough to wrap around that.  But it would be interesting to 
try.   The "Suprise Symphony" comes to mind here.

One way to test a theory about literature to music would be to take a 
text, parse or structure the text in some way (xml, perl...) and asign 
musical phrases to certain themes in the structure, and see what the 
outcome is.  This could be achieved via max/msp, pd, supercollider or 
the likes....

just a thought.

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re: Also I believe you have to know something about music to enjoy music. Cause if no one new anything about music then why the hell do people have preconceptions about how music should sound. It'd be easier if we didn't have a bias to say 3 minute diddies.


Well, as far as preconceptions about how music should sound, those are fairly deep structures, in terms of the mind-brain.  We understand music as syntactical, in a language-like sense: phrases, motives, etc.  There's a book called "A Generative Theory of Tonal Music" by Ray Jackendoff and Fred Lerdahl, which presents some interesting notions about how the mind understands music in a language-like way.

i found a summary of some of these points:

http://odur.let.rug.nl/~schreudr/ppt/imatra2001b/imatra01ax6.pdf

So, although we can metaphorically speak about mapping literature to music, there's something lacking in music that's not in language: a deep sense of semantics.  Music in this sense is mostly syntax.  So we might be able to talk about the turnings and twistings of motives inside a piece of music, we can't really speak about music in the same ways that a symbol in a text, or a theme might be developed, as these are inherently tied to semantics.  Its quite difficult to talk about "meaning" in music.

Puns in language usually occur when there are issues in the mind determining the "logical type" of a phrase.  Jokes or puns are usually trying to access more than one logical type at the same time, or show some sense of "stress" or "leap" between logica types. So, i guess if we want to push this metaphor into music, we would probably need to say what we mean by "logical types" in music.  Unfortunately my brain isn't quite big enough to wrap around that.  But it would be interesting to try.   The "Suprise Symphony" comes to mind here.

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i can try....
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> check out a review (in Italian) of MacOS software art using a piece of
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> microsounders,
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microsounders,
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- obviously now that the kinks are being worked out new projects are
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At 6:20 AM -0700 6/28/04, Kim Cascone wrote:
> hey, I'm asking once again for a 'last five or so books read' list from
> microsounders

_dahlgren_, s. delany [didn't finish]
_helping_children_cope_with_divorce_, e.teyber
_poetry_ magazine
_artists_in_times_of_war_, h.zinn
_eastern_standard_tribe_, c.doctorow [read on handspring visor]

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At 6:20 AM -0700 6/28/04, Kim Cascone wrote:
>hey, I'm asking once again for a 'last five or so books read' list from
>microsounders...they don't have to be 'sound art' related and can be
>anything at all...here's mine to start and thanks to Joshua for the Markson
>tip!

These delights lately:

Miri Yu - Gold Rush
Ryu Murakami - In The Miso Soup
Jose Saramago - All The Names (recommended for those with Borges and 
Kafka on their lists)
Arundhati Roy - The God Of Small Things
Elfriede Jelinek - Lust
Linn Ullmann - Stella Descending
Don DeLillo - The Body Artist
Stanislaw Lem - Solaris
Herbert Asbury - The Barbary Coast
Victor Pelevin - Homo Zapiens
Frida Sigurdardottir - Night Watch

np - Tindersticks (1st album demos)
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Subject: "BIOTERRORISM" DOWNGRADED TO PETTY THEFT IN FBI EMBARRASSMENT
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June 29, 2004
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

Contact: mailto:xxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx

"BIOTERROR" CHARGES DOWNGRADED TO "MAIL FRAUD" IN STEALTH INDICTMENT U.S.
Attorneys attempt to cast $256 technicality as health and safety issue in
"stealth" indictment

Professor Steve Kurtz was charged today by a federal grand jury in
Buffalo, New York--not with bioterrorism, as listed on the Joint
Terrorism Task Force's original search warrant and subpoenas, but with
"petty larceny," in the words of Kurtz attorney Paul Cambria. (See
http://www.caedefensefund.org/ for background.)

Also indicted was Robert Ferrell, head of the Department of Genetics at
the University of Pittsburgh's School of Public Health. The charges
concern technicalities of how Ferrell helped Kurtz to obtain $256
worth of harmless bacteria for one of Kurtz's art projects.

The laws under which the indictments were obtained--Title 18, United
States Code, sections 1341 and 1343, covering mail and wire fraud--are
normally used against those defrauding others of money or property, as in
telemarketing schemes.

This is a far cry from the bioterrorism charges originally sought by the
District Attorney. To make a "federal case" out of such minor
allegations, the District Attorney will have the burden of proving
criminal intent.

"There was very obviously no criminal intent," said Kurtz attorney
Cambria. "The intent was to educate and enlighten." Cambria suggested that
the pursuit of such a minor case at the federal level was
profoundly absurd. "If the University of Pittsburgh feels that there was a
contract breach, then their remedy is to sue Steve for $256 in a civil
court."

A STEALTH INDICTMENT

The U.S. District Attorney attempted to cast the issue as one of public
health and safety in a public press conference called without the
knowledge of either defendant's lawyers, thus eliminating the chance of
rebuttal. During the conference, parts of which were broadcast on local
Buffalo news channels, U.S. Attorney William Hochul and U.S. District
Attorney Michael Battle repeatedly alluded to "dangerous" and
"bio-hazardous material," even though the charges have nothing to do with
such issues, and scientists universally regard the materials in question
as safe.

At one point in the press conference, U.S. Attorney Hochul stated that
Serratia marcescens, one of the two bacteria ordered by Ferrell, "is in
fact a dangerous material in that it can cause pneumonia." Serratia cannot
cause pneumonia, only aggravate it in someone who already has it, and very
rarely at that. Furthermore, it would be hard to
characterize as a "dangerous material" something that high school
students routinely use in biology class experiments. (Easily trackable by
its bright red color, S. marcescens is commonly used to demonstrate the
many ways microbes can be destroyed--e.g. with household bleach. The other
bacterium, Bacillus globigii, is also used in experiments as a stand-in
for dangerous microbes--precisely because it is harmless.)

Many believe the attempt to cast the $256 technicality as a public health
and safety issue is a face-saving measure by the government, which has
already expended an enormous amount of time and money in their fruitless
pursuit of this case.

ONLY THE BEGINNING

Although the original bioterrorism charges are now completely off the
table, the trial still promises to be financially and psychologically
draining for the defendants.

The international support of the defendants by artists, scientists and
other citizens has been remarkable; it is crucial that this support
continue as the government extends this outrageous and wasteful
persecution into a grueling trial.

To donate to the defense fund, please visit
http://caedefensefund.org/donate.html. Updates on the case will be posted
at http://www.caedefensefund.org/. To receive more frequent updates by
email, please join
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CAE_Defense/.





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> Tjeerd Sietsma <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx> wrote:
> 
> The main differences between a PC and a Mac are (from a sound designer's
> point of view):
> - PC is cheaper than a Mac to buy, but a Mac keeps it's value
> - PC's usually come with Windows. Windows demands your attention all the
> time.
> 
> In what way do you mean that Windows "demands your attention all the
> time"?
> I work on both PC and Mac and don't find either one to demand more of my
> time than the other. From what I've seen, both operating systems have
> thier own particular issues. And all the talk about how Macs are "more
> intuitive" are based on subjective opinions rather than objective ones
> because when I first started using PCs, I didn't have much problem
> getting around on them (without a manual), but when I started working
> with Macs, I had to spend too much time searching for certain basic
> functions and system settings. But this was just my personal experience
> (again, a subjective one). 
>  
> And if you're working with sound, Macs and programs made for Macs are
> (yes, needlessly) overpriced, and there are still way more sound oriented
> programs available that are made for Windows and cost less money or are
> available for free on the internet. 
> And I still think many people in the sound world partially use Macs
> because they are viewed as some sort of status symbol !  ;-)  I'm sorry
> people, but it doesn't make the music any better just because it was made
> on a Mac.

Mac is no status symbol in my personal environment. But the fact remains
that
when using a Mac you don't have to think about the OS all the time.
Windows
continuously pops up needless messages, especially when connected to the
internet. It's real hard to work safe on the internet when using
Windows.
e.g. the latest version of Windows XP connects to the internet in 16
ways
even when the internal firewall is supposed to block all traffic.
Foolish
and naieve users who still use Outlook and Office often don't realize
the
danger: since Outlook is glue-ed to the other components of Microsoft
office
with VBA (Visual Basic for Applications) it is hell easy for even
teenagers
to write viruses. This is because Microsoft wants the system to be open,
and
they have no need to secure it like e.g. Java is sandboxed to prevent
other
from breaking into your system. For more info see
http://www.fuckmicrosoft.com
and click on the link "What's so bad about Microsoft?"
In short, Windows comes standard with a lot of problems and stuff you
really
don't want to think about. Mac doens't have much of such problems.
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Here's the hype for the next event we're doing at Loop in Melbourne,
Australia this Sunday...

Anyone in Melb (or touring Melb soon) should let me know if your interested
in being involved in the future. It's first Sunday's on of the month...

this month a bunch of laptoppers take on some acoustic nutters to challenge
the meaning of the 4th of July!

cheers
bP
________________

ENViRON : SUNDAY JULY 4 : 7PM TIL LATE : $5
LOOP : 23 Meyers Place Melbourne, Australia

What do you get when you combine the drummer from Aussie cult band  Black
Sorrows, the trombone player from progrssive Jazz Dub crew High Pass Filter,
90s techno guru Zen Paradox and a stack of cutting edge electronic audio
composers, video artists, DJs and experimental film makers?  Environ @ LOOP,
Melbourne Australia...

Through providing a collaborative structure and a platform for artists and
musicians form many tangents of the Melbourne scene, environ generates an
atmosphere for new aesthetic outcomes and unique interactions to form in
from of the eyes and ears of onlookers.

Woven within... talula, is an innovative performance concept with
pre-determined roles similar to those used in modern jazz impro-games. This
idea however, incorporates the modern tools of the DJ, the VJ and the laptop
composer, alongside more traditional instruments like the sax, the drum kit
or even the glockenspiel...

On July 4th, two talula performances will bring together a fresh combination
of participants:

Talula #3 (8.30pm)

Andrew Sargeant (Future Eater, Micromusic) - electronic audio
Ian Kitney (Black Sorrows, Tim Rogers side project) - drums & radio scanning
Jean P00le (Newcastle Electrofringe, Plug 'n' Play) - AV
Brendan Palmer (Clan Analogue, Zonar, Alchemy) - analog vs digital mix

Talula #4 (10.30pm)

Steve Law (Zen Paradox, Solitary sound) - laptop audio
James Wilkinson  (High Pass Filter, Bucketrider) - trombone, conch, toys
Kirsten Bradley (Cicada, Re_squared, Nextwave) -  AV
Viktor Markov (Channel Comm Bulgaria, SBS Radio) - dub mixing

Also playing are touring Finnish DJ Jouni Vaarallisesti, ex-Adelaide
selector Dubwise and Zaibatsu. Analogue projections come courtesy of John
Aslanidis and Paul Rodgers.

More info and bios at http://www.environline.net


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> > It's the 'recommended' Windows installer that installs all those
> > sometimes pre-alpha libraries that can make your system instable.
> 
> It is true that some externs can cause crashes and headakes.  But this
> was the case with MaxMSP as well.  In fact, when MSP layer was added
> it was it that cased the most havoc.  People still bought it and were
> happy.  I don't understand why most people are happy with buggy
> software if they pay for it while they whine when it's free...  Don't
> take it personally, I'm just generalizing and thinking out ASCII.

I'm not. My guess is that people who use free software are in general
more critical than users that 'just buy' software and complain more
(in a civilized way) to make developers enhance the software.

> On the other hand I'm not even sure if what I'm saying applies to
> today's MaxMSP.  I haven't used it in years (but I did have seen it
> crash in some life performances....).

I've never seen PureData crash. It had a few glitches once but that
was due to the fact I was using Windows and had a bunch of shitty
programs installed. My bad.

> > Compared to Max/MSP you do spend more time patching your patches,
> > because Max/MSP contains many prefabricated objects.
> 
> Ah.  That's whole different story.  A lot of patches have been
> provided by the community over the years.  Keep in mind that pd has a
> smaller user community and hasn't been around for so long.  Some users
> have started making some abstractions to make the whole thing more
> user-friendly for the newcommers:
> 
> frank Barknecht's RRadical project: 
> http://puredata.info/community/projects/rradical/RRADicalWiki
> 
> David McCullum's abstractions:
> http://mentalfloss.ca/sintheta/html/downloads.html
> 
> and here you will find pdjimmies (jimmies port) by Zack Settel:
> http://tot.sat.qc.ca/fra/nslam.html
> 
> There are probably others around.  But these should get you started.

Great resources! Thanks!

> On the other hand, I think that the point of using pd is to roll your
> own, but I do agree that having a collection of patches around is good
> so that you don't reeinvent the wheel.

Me and another student of my school are trying to set up a pd-site
facilitating
webspace for this kind of stuff.

> > Costs are irrelevant. I like the b/w interface though, and prefer
> > PureData instead of Max/MSP. Also Max/MSP doesn't run on Linux *yet* :)
> 
> I, too I'm waiting for the port :).... GPL'd :-)
> 
> > I agree, but opensource software is often well documented as all
> > software should be. I didn't know the toggle in PureData could also
> > remember numbers, if I only knew many of such details earlier it would
> > have saved me days.
> 
> ok, well, the documentation lacks certain details.  But it is fairly
> complete.  You can learn a lot about programming with pd if you read the
> manual and study the examples and help files.

The helpfiles are very good indeed. But this incompleteness makes
learning
PureData more like a challenge. As Edsgar W. Dijkstra once said:
programmers
get their 'kick' from programming not because they know exactly what
they're
doing, but because they don't know exactly what they're doing.

> > I totally agree. But as you've said yourself, programs like Rosegarden
> > are years behind, and this was exactly my point, the reason why most
> > people choose to use Windows and/or MacOS instead.
> 
> Yeah.  The thing is that I started using Linux because I wanted to get
> away from the mainstream apps :)  I'm sorry but sometimes I assume
> that everyone else wants to do just that, although I know I'm wrong.

I sympathize :) I used Windows and it's apps since '96 and after eight
years
I come to the conclusion that I don't want to use Windows EVER AGAIN.
Another
thing is that when you've seen as many mainstream apps as I have (which
you
probably will) you would agree that it really doesn't matter which app
you
use or which keyboard shortcuts you are used to.

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am teaching a summer source, so some of this is work-related, but 
anyway:

walter benjamin arcades project
louis aragon: paris paysan
f. pessoa: book of disquiet
lysoff and grey, eds., music an technoculture (only some interesting 
stuff in this...)
l. goehr: the imaginary museum of musical works

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Many users/developers posted examples of software already, but it seems
like Loris is just a C++ library, and not a complete program. You can't
expect the average sounddesigner codes his own software? It's not that
I'm unimpressed with Loris or ungrateful for its free release but Loris
seems a bridge to far for most users.


On Wed, 16 Jun 2004 16:20:29 +0000 (UTC), "Phil Thomson"
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> > e.g. I don't know any
> > linux-tool with which you can morph spectra. This of course could also
> > very well mean that I'm not that good in browsing the internet.
> 
> Once, when browsing the internet, I found this:
> 
> http://www.cerlsoundgroup.org/Loris/
> 
> P
> 
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On Wed, 23 Jun 2004 19:05:06 -0400, "Michal Seta" <xxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx.xxx>
said:
> "Tjeerd Sietsma" <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx> writes:
> 
> > You're right, that's a main argument to choose for PD. But next to that,
> > PD should also provide it's user with top-level building blocks. 
> 
> The links I sent in my previous mail in this thread are such building
> blocks and they even have a GUI.  If there aren't enough it's only
> because 1) there aren't many users who actually develop for the good
> of the community, 2) not enough people asked for such things.  Keep in
> mind that many users share their work (not enough perhaps) so you can
> always dig in and adapt to your own needs.
> 
> > This
> > would help a lot of developers gain programming speed and reduce
> > efforts.
> 
> Developers or users?  

users :) I'm used to look at PureData users as developers, because they
are also programming.
Although those users normally don't code stuff, they do create
algorithms. (2nd part of programming)

> 
> > I guess this is exactly what Miller Puckette doesn't want.
> 
> I don't think so.  In fact Miller has started an effort of porting
> some pieces from the IRCAM interactive computer music literature
> (Boulez, Saariaho, Manoury) and examples of using pd for such things
> like collage a la Tenney, spectral resynthesis a la Harvey, phase a la
> Reich but IRCAM pulled the plug due to licensing.  Some of the
> components (if not most) were ready to reuse.  Blame IRCAM for not
> allowing access to such great resource.  OTOH, I doubt David Z., the
> cycler74, spends time making user-friendly high-level modules.  Other
> people do that.  But then, I don't know jack...  i might be wrong.
> 
> The upside is that there is more interest for high-level blocks and
> some users started providing some goodies.  Stay tuned.

So it's up to the users (who are also developers :) to create PD exten-
tions. That doesn't sound too bad. I'm already glad Miller Puckette made
the PureData 'framework' to create extentions for.
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On Tuesday, June 29, 2004, at 07:30 PM, Aaron Hull wrote:

> Hmm I tend to disagree with your point about books, people can often 
> get the
> wrong impression and completely miss a subtle point or undertone which
> affects the way a theme is perceived by the reader. I think whether 
> you read
> a book or listen to music there are certain levels of understanding. 
> (will
> not go to deep here)
>

to true, but you have to be able to write to read but you don't
have to be able to play music to enjoy it. although I am a little
bias to 3 minute diddies =)

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Hmm I tend to disagree with your point about books, people can often get the
wrong impression and completely miss a subtle point or undertone which
affects the way a theme is perceived by the reader. I think whether you read
a book or listen to music there are certain levels of understanding. (will
not go to deep here)

I am not trying to answer your question about a pun though, just being a
knit picker in regards to your point about text and music. Also I believe
you have to know something about music to enjoy music. Cause if no one new
anything about music then why the hell do people have preconceptions about
how music should sound. It'd be easier if we didn't have a bias to say 3
minute diddies. 

By the way this is my 1st post. So I'd just like to say hi. Have been
reading intently so far.

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true, but that's a blind experiment.
what I'm thinking of here is that you have
to be experienced in the basic structures
of language (i.e. grammar etc.) to read, but you don't have to know
dick to enjoy music. Hence an author can play with
words knowing his audience will (hopefully get it) while a musician
can cleverly blend all sorts of structures behind music
and yet if it doesn't make an aesthetic effect, your average
listening won't know. How do you make a pun in music?

-
A

On Monday, June 28, 2004, at 09:13 PM, Phil Thomson wrote:

>
> My composition teacher told me about the experience of playing the=20
> surrealist game of "Exquisite Corpses" with several of his friends in=20=

> his student days. One would take a sheet of music paper and write a=20
> line of music plus a note, fold it over, and pass it to the next=20
> person who would proceed from the last note of the person before them.
>
> I guess you could do this with computer music too. One person could=20
> write a line of zeroes and ones on a sheet of paper and pass it to the=20=

> next person. The last person could unfold the sheet and type it into a=20=

> hex editor and put a soundfile header on it and burn it to CD. Just a=20=

> thought.
>
> P



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Did I miss anyone posting this already?

Sounds of radio frequency bursts -- "rotational modulation of radio
emmissions [...] generated by charged particles whose motions are
controlled by the planetary magnetic field" -- shifted into the audible
frequency range.

 http://www-pw.physics.uiowa.edu/space-audio/cassini/sat-rotation/

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I'm reading (at the moment)
the soft machine - William Burroughs
almost finished reading it, though

and afterwards i'll be reading
Abattoir - Erwin Neutzsky-Wulff

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> > How do you make a pun in music?
>
> I'd say by intertextuality. You know all this talk about art as a discourse,
> it's pretty common (even more so in classical music) to refer to others'
> work in a piece of music. Often this is done humorously, though I'm not sure

I agree, my first thought was that the equivalent in music to a pun is
more like a literal (or at least discernible) allusion -- the first thing
that popped into mind was some bebop solo that quotes a phrase from "surry
with the fringe on top," pauses, and then blasts onwards. It was quick but
quite obvious. I know I've heard plenty of other less obvious examples
too.

The second thing that comes to mind, somewhat embarassingly, is my
familiarity with how the Grateful Dead would, while jamming, basically
"discuss" the next tune to drop in to ~ fans who were deeply familiar with
the repetoire could follow the conversation quite clearly, which was often
limited to very subtle or fragmentary tropes or rhythms...

Not punning in this case, but, well, conversation through a common musical
language!

 aaron

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figured I should throw in:

_White Nile_, Alan Moorhead
_The Khartoum Journals of General Charles E. Gordon_
_Odyssey of an American Composer_, Otto Luening
_Boulez-Cage Correspondence_, Jean Jacques Nattiez
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Hi, 

 I find this rather impressive (sh 32):

http://www.audiomidi.com/common/cfm/product.cfm?Product_ID=4109#

 ..of course you'd need a controller , those aren't hard to find.



on 6/28/04 8:27 PM, Kim Cascone at xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx wrote:

> I'm looking for a small analog synth with a keyboard, lots of knobs and a
> built-in speaker...battery and/or AC powered is ok...something like the
> monophonic SH-101 but smaller...a kit is ok...something like the
> Technosaurus Microcon II but with a keyboard would be perfect...
> as I've not been following the synth hardware market for a long time I am
> unaware of what strange little synth toys might be lurking about...anyone
> recommend something?
> thanks in advance!
> KIM


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The last few books I read are:

Millennium People - J G Ballard
Quicksilver - Neal Stephenson
Buddhism: Core Ideas - Hsing Yun
Brave New World - Aldous Huxley
Microsound - Curtis Roads
Fremder - Russell Hoban
Hard-Boiled Wonderland and the End of the World - Haruki Murakami

And I'll probably go through my old Brian Aldiss books during the 
summer if I get stuck for anything to read :)

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hi there,

i'm not sure you'd call it a "pun" but you
could check alfred schnittke's music, which is
full of quotes, parodies and decontextualisation of
bach, beethoven, di lasso, shostakovitch etc...

(found this on http://www.greatwar.org.nz/schnittke.htm :
"He began writing music in the Serialist style which was the done thing for 
any Russian composer of that time who wished to be disassociated from state 
sanctioned "tunes you can whistle" (Thank you Joe Stalin). Around about 1968 
he decided to "alight from an already overcrowded train" and began writing 
in the style that eventually became known as polystylism. He was influenced 
at this point by Webern and Ives.

His first composition in this style was the 2nd Violin Sonata Quasi una 
Sonata (spot the knowing Beethoven reference) which he described as "a 
report of the impossibility of the sonata, made in the form of a sonata". 
This was followed four years later by the 1st Symphony which eviscerates the 
traditional form of the symphony. He juxtaposes quotations from the "Great 
Masters" against blasts of free form orchestral noise, incorporates a jazz 
band, produces moments of stark terror neatly undercut by gross banality and 
generally destroys the whole notion of the symphony as a form and a cultural 
practice - the musicians process on to the stage while playing and are 
followed by the conductor.

He has written many works which use Baroque forms and idioms (the concerti 
grossi for example) but not in any neo-classical sense. These can range from 
"joke" pieces such as a version of the old Christmas favourite Stille Nacht 
(Silent Night) which perfectly skewers the Hell that is the season of 
goodwill through to the Concerto Grosso no. 6 which has qualities of "the 
wind blowing through the graveyard". "

tschuss,
benoit



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>On 6/29/04 at 7:18 AM, Kim Cascone <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>
> > > How do you make a pun in music?
> > Sr Coconut might be a good example...albeit sorta obvious
>
>You might want to check out Peter Kivy's book, _Sound and Semblance_
>which takes up the issue of musical puns in Bach and Handel...
>
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i just bought a cracklebox and love it. worth checking out
if lush melodic washes are NOT what you're looking for...;-)
buchla-ish touch sensors, battery-powered and built-in
speaker... and loud.
here's the link: http://www.steim.org/steim/cracklebox.php
best
b

On Monday, June 28, 2004, at 06:29  PM, Kassen wrote:

>
>> I'm looking for a small analog synth with a keyboard, lots of knobs 
>> and a
>> built-in speaker...battery and/or AC powered is ok...something like 
>> the
>> monophonic SH-101 but smaller...a kit is ok...something like the
>> Technosaurus Microcon II but with a keyboard would be perfect...
>> as I've not been following the synth hardware market for a long time 
>> I am
>> unaware of what strange little synth toys might be lurking 
>> about...anyone
>> recommend something?
>> thanks in advance!
>
> perhaps a yamaha cs-1? it uses sliders instead of knobs but that makes 
> it
> very small and sturdy. can be batery powered, has a speaker, idealy 
> suited
> for touring. best of all; it will do both noizes and synth lines. 
> affordable
> too. in my experience it needs a compressor or a limiter when used live
> because tweaking the settings can cause huge volume changes but apart 
> from
> that it sounds like exactly what you want.
>
> looks good next to a casio sk-1 too.
> link for your convenience;
> http://www.synthmuseum.com/yamaha/yamcs101.html
>
> confession time; apart from my own experimental work im also in a 
> disco
> project called "bangkok impact" (*ducks*). weve taken to using a lot 
> of
> small and toy keyboards on stage because you can throw a lot of them
> inbetween your clothes in your suitcase, they take up little room on 
> stage,
> can be modified, dont crash and they enable us to switch to completely
> freestyle jamming at any moment. some of them produce a frightning 
> amount of
> bass too......
>
> i wholeheartedly recomend the practice to everybody.
>
> Kas.
>
> p.s. sorry about mentioning disco on the microsound list, i feel dirty 
> now.
>
>
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>> I'm looking for a small analog synth with a keyboard, lots of knobs and a
>> built-in speaker...battery and/or AC powered is ok...something like the
>> monophonic SH-101 but smaller...a kit is ok...something like the
>> Technosaurus Microcon II but with a keyboard would be perfect...
>> as I've not been following the synth hardware market for a long time I am
>> unaware of what strange little synth toys might be lurking about...anyone
>> recommend something?
>> thanks in advance!
> 
> perhaps a yamaha cs-1? it uses sliders instead of knobs but that makes it
> very small and sturdy. can be batery powered, has a speaker, idealy suited
> for touring. best of all; it will do both noizes and synth lines. affordable
> too. in my experience it needs a compressor or a limiter when used live
> because tweaking the settings can cause huge volume changes but apart from
> that it sounds like exactly what you want.

I'll agree with Kassen suggestion of that model which is actually called a
CS01. It was a monophonic analog sold by Yamaha in 1982, for $275 or so and
can be found used for less these days. Tip : the later roman numeral II
units are supposed to have much improved resonance control. Yamaha's analog
swan song.


The EDP Wasp (UK 1978) has pretty much the above criteria but it's
definitely now if it ever wasnt  unroadworthy and goes for a collector
premium.


Very few units meet the criteria - I'll quickly mention some theories, see
for yourself from your recollections of other people on tours these days,
lots of knobbed USB controllers out there, nothing much that makes a sound
aside from vintage casio SK-1s and the occasional circuit bent unit of some
sort.  Below are a couple  partial criteria meeting choices I can think of-

I'm sure you know the Nord Modular keyboard. No speaker of course and not a
full set of knobs. That's something recently discontinued in favor of a
larger unit (that supports current operating systems, something that until
someone successfully completely reverse engineers the old Nord is going to
be a real issue unless you still use Win98  or OS9)

OK some contemporary stuff -

MFB
http://www.mfberlin.de/Produkte/Musikelektronik/musikelektronik.html
have several very small analog and semi analog synths. They use push buttons
instead of keys a la some of the small Rolands used to. I've use their drum
machine mounted as a tie clip at several shows.

Novation makes several virtual synths inside small keyboards with
controllers, the sonic character to me is very plastic but I'm sure if they
are used with that in mind music-wise they can be effective. They used to
make the BassStation, which was a very small bass oriented  synth keyboard
with controls.

The microkorg is somewhat popular but is pretty fake sounding and knob
limited




I think mainstream companies have proven with marketing that the inclusion
of a built in speaker tips too many in the huge semi-pro market off that the
unit in question isn't professional, then adding knobs instead of pushbutton
presets makes the unit much more expensive with the additional consideration
that the a knobs or sliders only interface is going to make it rough to sell
as the unit in the shop won't necessarily be making cool sounds unless it
has memories too, which by that time is going to price completely out of any
kind of entry or non-pro market.

The second factor is no one manufactures analogue keyboard mechanisms and
its' something no one can make in their basement. What larger small
companies do is buy MIDI keyboard mechanisms off Fatar in Italy, the only
company AFAIK that will sell OEM keyboard mechanisms. About half the big
companies buy their keyboards off Fatar too, but for a little guy that's big
enough to be able to deal with Fatar you can't just spec anything and get
it, the options are limited and of an analog synth the MIDI to CV converter
hardware to use it for an analog synth adds over well $50. The couple analog
keyboards out today as far as I've discovered all have MIDI keyboards and CV
converters inside. It's a much simpler proposition for a synth builder to
make the owner supply the keys themselves separately. A couple people I can
think of might be developing units that meet some of your criteria now but a
lot of these factors of meeting the needs of many users tend to push the
pricing up or feature set down enough that they no longer become practical.
And of course the allure of software, laptop and a knobbed USB controller
probably dwindles the market faster than it grows the market for an
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On 6/29/04 at 7:18 AM, Kim Cascone <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:

> > How do you make a pun in music?
> Sr Coconut might be a good example...albeit sorta obvious

You might want to check out Peter Kivy's book, _Sound and Semblance_
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> I can't believe they even say that the schoenberg has less structure.
> Certainly, they were looking for it in the wrong place.
% agreed...while Schoenberg's 'Three Piano Pieces, Opus 11' might not share
a note distribution similar to that of words in text anyone who knows AS's
works knows that he was a stickler for compositional structure...this means
that his dodecaphonic melodic/harmonic content adhered to classic forms of
musical structure...

also, dodecaphonic WWII code:
http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/weekly/aa062998.htm


> A more accurate analysis would need to measure distance between notes, not
> the notes themselves.  I guess they are oblivious of the extensive work of
> Steven Pope.
% or the writings of Schoenberg...check out 'Style and Idea'


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> How do you make a pun in music?
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i think this is a good synth toy 

http://www.sonicstate.com/news/shownews.cfm?newsid=1291 

you even get a 84% replica ms-20 with it 

:) 

shinjiro yamaguchi writes: 

> "casio tone" is good, too.
> it's very cheap sounds. 
> 
> 
> best
> shinjiro 
> 
> 
>>perhaps a yamaha cs-1? it uses sliders instead of knobs but that makes it
>>very small and sturdy. can be batery powered, has a speaker, idealy suited
>>for touring. best of all; it will do both noizes and synth lines. affordable
>>too. in my experience it needs a compressor or a limiter when used live
>>because tweaking the settings can cause huge volume changes but apart from
>>that it sounds like exactly what you want. 
>>
>>looks good next to a casio sk-1 too.
>>link for your convenience;
>>http://www.synthmuseum.com/yamaha/yamcs101.html 
>>
>>confession time; apart from my own experimental work i.m also in a disco
>>project called "bangkok impact" (*ducks*). we.ve taken to using a lot of
>>small and toy keyboards on stage because you can throw a lot of them
>>inbetween your clothes in your suitcase, they take up little room on stage,
>>can be modified, don.t crash and they enable us to switch to completely
>>freestyle jamming at any moment. some of them produce a frightning amount of
>>bass too...... 
>>
>>i wholeheartedly recomend the practice to everybody. 
>>
>>Kas. 
>>
>>p.s. sorry about mentioning disco on the microsound list, i feel dirty now.
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"casio tone" is good, too.
it's very cheap sounds.


best
shinjiro


>perhaps a yamaha cs-1? it uses sliders instead of knobs but that makes it
>very small and sturdy. can be batery powered, has a speaker, idealy suited
>for touring. best of all; it will do both noizes and synth lines. affordable
>too. in my experience it needs a compressor or a limiter when used live
>because tweaking the settings can cause huge volume changes but apart from
>that it sounds like exactly what you want.
>
>looks good next to a casio sk-1 too.
>link for your convenience;
>http://www.synthmuseum.com/yamaha/yamcs101.html
>
>confession time; apart from my own experimental work i(I4(Bm also in a disco
>project called "bangkok impact" (*ducks*). we(I4(Bve taken to using a lot of
>small and toy keyboards on stage because you can throw a lot of them
>inbetween your clothes in your suitcase, they take up little room on stage,
>can be modified, don(I4(Bt crash and they enable us to switch to completely
>freestyle jamming at any moment. some of them produce a frightning amount of
>bass too......
>
>i wholeheartedly recomend the practice to everybody.
>
>Kas.
>
>p.s. sorry about mentioning disco on the microsound list, i feel dirty now.

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"how do you make a pun in music?"

Well, I think there are many examples that come close to that. While the audience in general is not very music-literate, they can be culture-literate, and a variety of musical statements of varied complexity can be understood by the general audience.

For example, Seor Coconut's re-appropiations of original composition from many sources as salsa/latin music could probably qualify as a musical "joke" that could be understood by most people. The Portsmouth Simphonia's versions of the popular classics too. Moreover, they can be enjoyed at many different levels.

But it's true that in pure sound and musicological senses (stripping away the cultural aspects, to the extent that this is possible) it is a lot harder to make such complicated estatements and be widely understood.

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BOOK REVIEW
"Fractals in Music: Introductory Mathematics for
Musical Analysis" by Charles Madden
The book's title is misleading: little is mentioned
about fractals, geometric structures in which large
elements mirror smaller elements, and nothing is
specifically mentioned about musical works which use
fractal-like structures, like John Cage's proportional
rhythmic frameworks in the 1940s, or David Clarke
Little's computer music in the 1990s. Most of the book
is painfully dull, explaining how to use simple
statistics (mean, standard deviation, etc.) to analyze
melodies of some disparate examples: Xenakis' "Etona"
(based on random organization), Schubert, a Gregorian
chant, and melodies derived from white noise, brown
noise and pink noise. Over half the book is spent
picking through these examples, mathematically
determining how "random," each piece is, which is a
particularly boring thing to work through, and even
more particularly useless. Madden never writes about
how this information can be used, how this relates to
fractals, or how any of this could be applied to music
that is not a single voice of chromatic pitches. And
in his examples, he doesnt examine a fractal melody
to see how "random" that would be, or how random
different fractal melodies would be. A middle chapter
of the book goes through examples of composers using
the Fibonacci number series (1, 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 11,
etc), whose ratios of successive pairs approach the
Greek "Golden Ratio" of 0.618. Much of this is spent
counting measures to see if there is a significant
musical moment at this point in pieces by Varese,
Gershwin, Schoenberg, Bartok, and Stockhausen.
Varese's "Hyperprism" is one bar off from having a
major development at the Golden Mean point!
Ultimately, we learn that this is an extremely dull
concept to contemplate. And in a piece that lasts 200
measures, what noticeable difference is there if there
is a change at measure 123 or 130? The human mind
couldn't notice an audible difference between the two.
All this said, the first two chapters are worthwhile
reading, providing an overview of Chaos Theory (in
which fractals play a useful part) and the natural
harmonic and equal-temperament tunings. A more
interesting piece on the use of fractals in music is
Rolf Wallin's "Fractal Music - Red Herring or Promised
Land?" written 10 years earlier.
http://www.notam02.no/~rolfwa/Fractalarticle.html

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ndkent;

> I'm sure you know the Nord Modular keyboard. No speaker of course and not
a
> full set of knobs. That's something recently discontinued in favor of a
> larger unit (that supports current operating systems, something that until
> someone successfully completely reverse engineers the old Nord is going to
> be a real issue unless you still use Win98  or OS9)

Im not sure about the Mac side of things, but the nords OS *should* run
fine under XP. In fact I edit mine from my laptop under XP and often have
the editor open during live performances with which I mean to say that its
stable enough that id risk my reputation on in. I accidently happen to know
one of the nord modulars aplha testers and i can tell you he uses his own
pair of micro modulars from a XP desktop too.

The only side effect of running it under XP that i know off is that it
remembers its midi port setting better if you set the program to run in
this "compatibility mode", apart from that you should be fine. I also know
that a p90 with a minimal configuration of win98 can handle the Nords
editor so a pc emulation might be a option for OS X users that want to edit
a Nord?

Hope that is of some help to somebody.....

Yours,
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>Free Play - Improvisation in Life & Art by Stephen
Nachmanovitch

How was this? This has sat on my shelf for the past 5?
6? 7? years unread. I am afraid it will be a waste of
time for me.

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hi

( 04.06.29 00:45 -0400 ) andrew jones:
> How do you make a pun in music?

i guess it depends on the know-ts.

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hi

( 04.06.29 01:13 +0000 ) Phil Thomson:
> I guess you could do this with computer music too.

yes- it would make a great project [glich music is about putting things
in a new context, and some people here do music by putting field
recordings in a different context].

maybe the rules are like this:

- get a list of 'players'
- create 10 [or 7] seconds of music
- take the last second and put it in a different file
- remove this last second from the orinal file and 'submit' it
- send the 'last second' to the next person on the list
- when all the pieces are done, they can be strung together

any takers?

> One person could write a line of zeroes and ones on a sheet of paper
> and pass it to the next person.

this could be done too, but what about using computer files to hold the
binary data? i'd imagine it'd be much more non-linear than the way i
suggest above. this is not saying anything about better or worse.

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> How do you make a pun in music?

I'd say by intertextuality. You know all this talk about art as a discourse,
it's pretty common (even more so in classical music) to refer to others'
work in a piece of music. Often this is done humorously, though I'm not sure
if it still could be called a pun. Obviously the references are misse by the
majority of listeners, but not by all.

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murray ward wrote:

> currently reading:
>
> Sync by Steven Strogatz
> Countdown to mathematics by Lynne Graham & David Sargent
>
> Previously:
>
> The Soft Machine by William S. Burroughs
> Fictions by Jorge luis Borges
> The Compuiter Music Tutorial by Curtis Roads
>
> Best
> Murray
> (dj_spleenbaby) 



Murray;

Have you read the non-fictions yet?  I've been hooken on it since 
returning from Macedonia some months ago.  Borges' books are almost 
impossible for me to put down.

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hello,
sorry for the cross posting.... but for all the talk about sound cards..
i wanted to offer this to other artists/musicians on the list prior to 
placing it on ebay.
always nicer to have it go to a good home and continue helping someone 
make interesting sounds/music...

a nice small portable little unit!
perfect for the studio or traveling , live gigs


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for PC or MAC

Waveterminal U2A  - Portable, Multi-functional

EGO SYS is always on the cutting edge of the professional audio 
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studio pocketknife for desktop music production.

  The U2A offers
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select one at a time while the output signal is available on all 3 
output formats at the same time. This feature can make the U2A act as a 
signal converter between coaxial & optical audio.

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converters, and unbalanced 1/4" phone jack connections.

  The U2A supports
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Sample Rate Converter.

  The U2A is compatible
  with Microsoft Windows 98SE, ME, 2000 and Windows XP WDM Drivers 
supporting MME and DirectSound. It also includes the ASIO 2.0 Driver. 
Macintosh Apple Sound Manager and Mac ASIO are supported as well.

  Specifications.
  - 16-bit playback & record resolution
  - Gold-tipped S/PDIF Coaxial & Optical digital I/O
  - 24-bit, high-quality, stereo A/D, D/A converters : 100dB(A/D), 110dB
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  - Signal to Noise ratio (D/A) : 110dB
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  - Internal Digital Mixer for Input Monitoring.
  - 32, 44.1 and 48K sampling rates supported
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  - installation : no "IRQs" or "DMAs" to set, no I/O addresses to 
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hello,
sorry for the cross posting.... but for all the talk about sound cards..
i wanted to offer this to other artists/musicians on the list prior to 
placing it on ebay.
always nicer to have it go to a good home and continue helping someone 
make interesting sounds/music...

a nice small portable little unit!
perfect for the studio or traveling , live gigs


richard



$100 (including shipping in the USA)
perfect condition in box with all manuals and cables..
for PC or MAC

Waveterminal U2A  - Portable, Multi-functional

EGO SYS is always on the cutting edge of the professional audio 
industry. Once again, EGOSYS is one step ahead , introducing the 
Waveterminal U2A. This versatile USB interface is not only affordable, 
it is extremly portable (9X9 cm). Its multiple features make the U2A a 
studio pocketknife for desktop music production.

  The U2A offers
  3 stereo input options (coaxial, optical, and analog) that you can 
select one at a time while the output signal is available on all 3 
output formats at the same time. This feature can make the U2A act as a 
signal converter between coaxial & optical audio.

  The Analog
  I/Os of the U2A are supported with ultra-wide range 24-bit AD/DA 
converters, and unbalanced 1/4" phone jack connections.

  The U2A supports
  3 multiple sampling rates(32, 44.1, 48K) with a Real-time hardware 
Sample Rate Converter.

  The U2A is compatible
  with Microsoft Windows 98SE, ME, 2000 and Windows XP WDM Drivers 
supporting MME and DirectSound. It also includes the ASIO 2.0 Driver. 
Macintosh Apple Sound Manager and Mac ASIO are supported as well.

  Specifications.
  - 16-bit playback & record resolution
  - Gold-tipped S/PDIF Coaxial & Optical digital I/O
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  - (D/A) Dynamic Range
  - Signal to Noise ratio (D/A) : 110dB
  - -10dBv UnBalanced 1/4" phone jack
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  - Internal Digital Mixer for Input Monitoring.
  - 32, 44.1 and 48K sampling rates supported
  - Real-time hardware Sample Rate Converter
  - installation : no "IRQs" or "DMAs" to set, no I/O addresses to 
configure
  - connects externally: no computer surgery
  - Extreme portability(9 X 9cm).
  - Includes convenient 2-meter USB cable
  - Microsoft Windows 98SE/ME/2000/XP MME & DirectSound Driver, ASIO 2.0 
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 >>>
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recommend: 
 
1. the intimate machine close encounters with computers and robots (neil frude) 
 
2. the population bomb (dr. paul ehrlich)
 
3. the metamorphosis (franz kafka) 
 
4. the book (alan watts) 
 
5. conversations w/ god an uncommon dialogue i, ii, iii (neale donald walsch) 
 
and of course still treasuring my microsound book. 
 
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The most recent film by him has excerpts from Hildegard Westerkamp and won 
a Palme d'Or at Cannes.

On Tue, 29 Jun 2004, scott allison wrote:

> Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 03:45:48 +0000
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> Subject: Re: [microsound] Re: summer book lists?
> 
> ok, not a book...
>
> but a really nice movie that one might think of as "microsound" or better yet 
> "lowercase" called "Jerry" by Gus Van Sant, and yes its got Matt Damon and 
> Ben Afflects little brother, at times this movie feels like it might have 
> been directed by Bernhard Gunter, really an excellent film. Thanks Dominico 
> for showing this one to me.
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true, but that's a blind experiment.
what I'm thinking of here is that you have
to be experienced in the basic structures
of language (i.e. grammar etc.) to read, but you don't have to know
dick to enjoy music. Hence an author can play with
words knowing his audience will (hopefully get it) while a musician
can cleverly blend all sorts of structures behind music
and yet if it doesn't make an aesthetic effect, your average
listening won't know. How do you make a pun in music?

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A


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>
> My composition teacher told me about the experience of playing the 
> surrealist game of "Exquisite Corpses" with several of his friends in 
> his student days. One would take a sheet of music paper and write a 
> line of music plus a note, fold it over, and pass it to the next 
> person who would proceed from the last note of the person before them.
>
> I guess you could do this with computer music too. One person could 
> write a line of zeroes and ones on a sheet of paper and pass it to the 
> next person. The last person could unfold the sheet and type it into a 
> hex editor and put a soundfile header on it and burn it to CD. Just a 
> thought.
>
> P
>
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>>> "Flauberts Parrot" by Julian Barnes
>>
>> ahh Flaubert's Parrot. that's a good one.
>> on another note, how do you take the cleverness
>> of literary games to music? i mean you have to
>> know a language to read it, but you don't have
>> to know music to listen to it, hence a lot of the
>> word play and tricks that mark great literature
>> seem to be less translatable to music.
>>
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ok, not a book...

but a really nice movie that one might think of as "microsound" or better 
yet "lowercase" called "Jerry" by Gus Van Sant, and yes its got Matt Damon 
and Ben Afflects little brother, at times this movie feels like it might 
have been directed by Bernhard Gunter, really an excellent film. Thanks 
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I'm looking for a small analog synth with a keyboard, lots of knobs and a
built-in speaker...battery and/or AC powered is ok...something like the
monophonic SH-101 but smaller...a kit is ok...something like the
Technosaurus Microcon II but with a keyboard would be perfect...
as I've not been following the synth hardware market for a long time I am
unaware of what strange little synth toys might be lurking about...anyone
recommend something?
thanks in advance!
KIM


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last 5 articles, most online:

-dartmouth symposium on the future of computer music - eric lyon, et al.
computer music journal

-damaged sound - caleb stuart
-recursive audio cutting - nick collins
-john cage and recording - yasunao tone (very interesting!)
leonardo music journal

-the death of the author - roland barthes
aspen no. 5+6, item 3 (via ubu.com)

mostly been doing research lately, so it's been articles articles articles....

though i'm looking forward to sinking my teeth into "atom" by issac
asimov, and "america" by jean baudrillard this summer.

-erik

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Here's mine:

- "A Canticle For Leibowitz" by Walter M. Miller Jr.

- "Cy Twombly, A Retrospective" - MOMA catalogue, 1994, by Kirk Varnedoe

- "The Auditory Culture Reader" edited by Michael Bull + Les Back

- "Supercade: A Visual History of the Videogame Age, 1971-1984" by Van Burnham

- "House of Bush, House of Saud" by Craig Unger


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My composition teacher told me about the experience of playing the 
surrealist game of "Exquisite Corpses" with several of his friends in his 
student days. One would take a sheet of music paper and write a line of 
music plus a note, fold it over, and pass it to the next person who would 
proceed from the last note of the person before them.

I guess you could do this with computer music too. One person could write 
a line of zeroes and ones on a sheet of paper and pass it to the next 
person. The last person could unfold the sheet and type it into a hex 
editor and put a soundfile header on it and burn it to CD. Just a thought.

P


On Mon, 28 Jun 2004, andrew jones wrote:

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>> 
>> "Flauberts Parrot" by Julian Barnes
>> 
>
> ahh Flaubert's Parrot. that's a good one.
> on another note, how do you take the cleverness
> of literary games to music? i mean you have to
> know a language to read it, but you don't have
> to know music to listen to it, hence a lot of the
> word play and tricks that mark great literature
> seem to be less translatable to music.
>
> -
> A
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> 
> I can't believe they even say that the schoenberg
> has less structure.
> Certainly, they were looking for it in the wrong
> place.

i agree in the oddness of saying the schoenberg
composition has less structure. it seems almost
contradictory considering the earlier statements that 
"All of the pieces showed a text-like distribution,
especially for the higher-ranking notes. But the
strength of the relationship varied,"

and in relation to the schoenberg piece and atonal
music "This means that the piece does not have a set
vocabulary of commonly used words that keep appearing.
Instead, the size of the vocabulary increases at about
the same rate as the length of the piece; new "words"
are constantly introduced, while earlier ones are
seldom repeated."

the author seems to overgeneralize or contradict both
his and zanette's statements with that sentence.
first, saying that the structures vary, and then
briefly saying that there is less structure. 

weird.


        
                
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Too much wishful thinking going on...  It is obvious that using a simplistic
criterion like number of occurrences of each note will certainly create
"context": common practice in music has that as a consequence by its own
very nature, not as a driving force.  A simple counter-argument dismisses
such a thesis -- grab each of the pieces mentioned and randomize the notes.
I doubt our ears would be able to discern said "context"; nevertheless, it
would be there according to the analysis.

I can't believe they even say that the schoenberg has less structure.
Certainly, they were looking for it in the wrong place.

A more accurate analysis would need to measure distance between notes, not
the notes themselves.  I guess they are oblivious of the extensive work of
Steven Pope.

//P
http://www.interdisciplina.org/00.0/

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Contenidos Onda Sonora (Radio Sesiones Experimentales) 30-06-04

01. ENSEMBLE SUPERMUSIQUE
Track: Septuor
Album: Canevas
Label: Ambiances Magnetiques

Notable formacion canadiense en el que participan hasta 18 componentes que 
han grabado un disco entre el free jazz y la improvisacion a partir de 
extractos de un total de 15 conciertos del combo entre 1998 y 2004

02. FALAISE, SAMWORTH, TANGUAY, VAN DER SCHYFF
Track: Yes, Happy Chew
Album: The Unexpected One
Label: Ambiances Magnetiques

Encuentro entre dos guitarristas y dos percusionistas con gran reputacion 
dentro de la escena de improvisacion libre canadiense, Bernard Falaise y Ron 
Samworth entre los primeros, y Dylan Van Der Shyff y Pierre Tanguay entre 
los segundos. El disco oscila entre lo minimal y lo desatado y se puede 
encontrar tambien a traves del catalogo del sello Ambiances Magnetiques

03. MLANIE AUCLAIR
Track: 4'8
Album: Puce  l'oreille
Label: Ambiances Magnetiques

Album de debut de Mlanie Auclair, compositora, cantante y chelista de 
formacion clasica pero propuesta experimental que se reunio con varios 
amigos para componer este emotivo Puce  l'oreille

04. JASCH
Track: Phenotype
Album: Shimmer
Label: Doc Recordings

Interesante artista suizo interesado en la improvisacion, el jazz y la 
msica electroacstica cuyo excelente nuevo trabajo presenta nuevos 
elementos en sus composiciones gracias a la introduccion extensiva del 
ordenador en el proceso de creacin

05. CM VON HAUSSWOLF
Track: 3
Album: THREE OVERPOPULATED CITIES BUILT BY...
Label: Sub Rosa

Primera de las tres ciudades superpobladas construidas por el pionero sueco 
Carl Michael Hausswolf  para su nuevo disco en Sub Rosa, aunque normalmente 
publica en Touch, un disco inspirado en el caos de las metrpolis modernas 
en la linea de formaciones de la era post industrial como The Hafler Trio, 
con el que ya colabor en el pasado

06. LUC FERRARI
Track: The Red Shoes. l'estaque, France, July 2002
Album: Les Anecdotiques
Label: Sub Rosa

Nuevo trabajo de Luc Ferrari, un parisino de espiritu libre que a sus 75 
aos y despues de una larga histora de actividad musical que le unio a 
Pierre Schaeffer en su grupo de musica concreta y tambien al grupo de 
investigaciones musicales alla por los aos 60, ha trabajado en los ms 
variados campos como la radio, la composicion contemporanea o la msica para 
cinta

07. SCHURER
Track: Palpitant
Album Vexations
Label: Domizil

Particular homenaje de Bernd Schurer a uno de los instrumentos ms 
influyentes en el desarrollo de la msica occidental, el piano. Un total de 
28 composiciones tituladas conjuntamente Vexations, como la famosa obra de 
Erik Satie, aunque Schurer introduce en sus poemas sonoros todo tipo de 
transformaciones de orden digital

08. ZELLE
Track: Nw 1
Album: Rjctd::nw
Label: Cubicfabric

Segundo trabajo del duo italiano Zelle, dos aos despues de su debut en el 
sello Line. Un disco que parte de la msica concreta para aproximarse a las 
nuevas tecnologas de proceso digital

09. HOLKHAM
Track: The Conversation / Bose Bose
Album: Komatta Saru
Label: Expanding

Debut de Simon Keep, un diseador de sonido britanico que se hace llamar 
Holkham en Expandig Records, un disco que precede lo que ser su primer 
trabajo en Sub Rosa y del que sonaran dos excelentes cortes

10.  LULLATONE
Track: My Petit Prelude
Album: Little Songs About Raindrops
Label: Plop

Breve corte que abre Little Songs About Raindrops, el nuevo disco de un 
norteamericano residente en Japon llamado Lullatone. Este nuevo disco ha 
sido  editado en oriente por Plop y aqu en occidente parece que se har 
cargo Audiodregs, que ya publicaba el ao pasado su Computer Recital

11. PATERAS / BAXTER / BROWN
Track: Bulbous
Album: Ataxia
Label: Synaesthesia

Nos trasladamos a Australia para escuchar la colaboracion entre tres musicos 
de Melbourne, el pianista Anthony Pateras, el percusionista Sean Baxter y el 
guitarrista David Brown con un disco titulado Ataxia, haciendo referencia a 
la perdida de coordinacion muscular

12. [SIC]
Track: Moray Firth
Album: Gorilla Masking Tape
Label: Piehead

Regreso de la canadiense Yew Morris, aka [Sic], en este caso con otra serie 
de composiciones introspectivas para un album de corte minimal en un entorno 
ambient, un disco que edita desde Toronto Piehead Records, en edicion 
limitada

13. THE SLEAZY LISTENERS
Track: Cutting School
Album: The Romance Is Over
Label: Squirrelgirl

Msica editada por el sello de la canadiense [SIC], Squirrel Girl, la 
muchacha ardilla, se trata de msica creada por ordenador que combina la 
magia digital del noruego Lasse Marhaug y los collages del canadiense Zev 
Ashery, un notable homenaje a las orquestaciones pop en clave exploratoria y 
experimental tras dos aos de intercambio de grabaciones a distancia

14. FRANK BRETSCHNEIDER
Track: Night Broadcast
Album: Looping I-VI (And Other Assoted Love Songs)
Label: 12k

Esta semana nos despedimos con un aclamado artista aleman que casi no 
necesita presentacion, Frank Bretsschneider, a quien hace poco pudimos ver 
en Madrid bajo su seudonimo Komet. Este es su regreso en el sello 
norteamericano 12k, un disco que continua la senda marcada por sus 
anteriores trabajos en 12k como Rausch, y fuera de 12k para compaias como 
Mille Plateaux, Bip-hop o Raster-noton, de la cual es miembro fundador

                                        English Version

Contents Onda Sonora (Experimental Radio Sessions) 30-06-04

01. ENSEMBLE SUPERMUSIQUE
Track: Septuor
Album: Canevas
Label: Ambiances Magnetiques

We open this week's session with L'Ensemble Supermusique, a Canadian 
formation in which 18 components take part. They have recorded an album 
titled Canevas with diverse extracts from a total of 5 concerts between 1998 
and 2004. New release of Ambiances Magnetiques

02. FALAISE, SAMWORTH, TANGUAY, VAN DER SCHYFF
Track: Yes, Happy Chew
Album: The Unexpected One
Label: Ambiances Magnetiques

The meeting between 2 guitarrists and 2 percussionists from the Canadian 
free improvisation scene: Bernard Falaise and Ron Samworth between the 
first, and Dylan Van Der Schyff and Pierre Tanguay between the second ones. 
They have titled their new album in Ambiances Magnetiques The Unexpected One

03. MLANIE AUCLAIR
Track: 4'8
Album: Puce  l'oreille
Label: Ambiances Magnetiques

The third new cd from Ambiances Magnetiques, debut album for Melanie 
Auclair, composer, singer and cellist with a classical formation but 
experimental aims that joined some friends to create this emotive piece

04. JASCH
Track: Phenotype
Album: Shimmer
Label: Doc Recordings

After starting in Canada with Ambiances Magnetiques, we return to Europe 
with a Swiss artist interested in improvisation in jazz and specially 
electroacoustic, Jasch, whose new work Shimmer -recently released in the dOc 
label-, presents some new elements owing to the extensive introduction of 
the computer in the creative process

05. CM VON HAUSSWOLF
Track: 3
Album: THREE OVERPOPULATED CITIES BUILT BY...
Label: Sub Rosa

The sound of the first of the three overpopulated cities built by the 
Sweddish pioneer Carl-Michael Von Hausswolf for his new album in the Sub 
Rosa label -though he usually releases in Touch-, a piece inspired in the 
chaos of modern metropolis. In the line of post-industrial formations such 
as The Hafler Trio, with who collaborated in the past

06. LUC FERRARI
Track: The Red Shoes. l'estaque, France, July 2002
Album: Les Anecdotiques
Label: Sub Rosa

Luc Ferrari is a free-minded Parisian in his 70s after a long history of 
musical activity that brought him to Pierre Schaeffer's Music Groupe de 
Musique Concrete and later to the Groupe de Investigations Musicals in the 
60s and finally to a vast creation in diverse directions with an 
experimental horizon

07. SCHURER
Track: Palpitant
Album Vexations
Label: Domizil

Bernd Schurer's particular homage to an instrument with such a great 
importance in the development of occidental music, the piano. A total of 28 
compositions titled jointly Vexations, as the famous work by Erik Satie, 
though Schurer introduces digital transformations

08. ZELLE
Track: Nw 1
Album: Rjctd::nw
Label: Cubicfabric

The second work of the Italian duo Z_E_L_L_E, two years after their debut in 
Line. A record that starts in the concrete point to approach the new 
technologies in digital processing. Released by the active Japanese label 
CubicFabric, after the Tape remixes we could enjoy last week

09. HOLKHAM
Track: The Conversation / Bose Bose
Album: Komatta Saru
Label: Expanding

Debut of the British sound designer Simon Keep in Expanding Records. This 
record anticipates his first work for Sub Rosa

10.  LULLATONE
Track: My Petit Prelude
Album: Little Songs About Raindrops
Label: Plop

Lullatone is a North-America currently residing in Japan; his new album is 
being handed by both Plop and Audio Dregs labels, the second has already 
released his Computer Recital

11. PATERAS / BAXTER / BROWN
Track: Bulbous
Album: Ataxia
Label: Synaesthesia

A label, Synaesthesia, and three musicians from Melbourne, Australia: 
Anthony Pateras -prepared piano-, Sean Baxter -percussions- and David Brown 
-prepared guitar-. Ataxia makes reference to the loss of muscular 
co-ordination

12. [SIC]
Track: Moray Firth
Album: Gorilla Masking Tape
Label: Piehead

The return of the Canadian Jen Morris, [sic], in this case with some 
introspective compositions for a record with a minimal taste in an ambiental 
environment. Toronto's Piehead Records limited release

13. THE SLEAZY LISTENERS
Track: Cutting School
Album: The Romance Is Over
Label: Squirrelgirl

This album comes from Jen Morris' own label Squirrellgirl. Collaboration 
between Norwegian Lasse Marhaug and Canadian Zev Asher, a tribute to pop 
orchestrations after two years mailing sounds

14. FRANK BRETSCHNEIDER
Track: Night Broadcast
Album: Looping I-VI (And Other Assoted Love Songs)
Label: 12k

An acclaimed German artist that needs almost no presentation, Frank 
Bretschneider, whom we could see in Madrid not long time ago under his Komet 
moniker. This is his return in the NYC label 12K after Rausch and a number 
of releases for labels such as Mille Plateaux, Fllt, Bip-Hop and of course 
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if anyone is about in london this thursday>>>>>>

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J Torrance [sijis] [detrit innovators] [sound_injury]
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Thames Barrier [adult toys and melodeon duo of Scott Taylor & Richard
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>Hey
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>Some really good bok recomendations, butn if anyone HAD! to chose what 
>would they rocomend, mine would have to be Don Delilo's White Noise, I 
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Hey

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Riddley Walker - Russel Hoban
Sleep Has His House - Anna Kavan
Collected Stories - Vladimir Nabokov
Back In No Time - The Brion Gysin Reader
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currently reading:

Sync by Steven Strogatz
Countdown to mathematics by Lynne Graham & David Sargent

Previously:

The Soft Machine by William S. Burroughs
Fictions by Jorge luis Borges
The Compuiter Music Tutorial by Curtis Roads

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> I'm looking for a small analog synth with a keyboard, lots of knobs and a
> built-in speaker...battery and/or AC powered is ok...something like the
> monophonic SH-101 but smaller...a kit is ok...something like the
> Technosaurus Microcon II but with a keyboard would be perfect...
> as I've not been following the synth hardware market for a long time I am
> unaware of what strange little synth toys might be lurking about...anyone
> recommend something?
> thanks in advance!

perhaps a yamaha cs-1? it uses sliders instead of knobs but that makes it
very small and sturdy. can be batery powered, has a speaker, idealy suited
for touring. best of all; it will do both noizes and synth lines. affordable
too. in my experience it needs a compressor or a limiter when used live
because tweaking the settings can cause huge volume changes but apart from
that it sounds like exactly what you want.

looks good next to a casio sk-1 too.
link for your convenience;
http://www.synthmuseum.com/yamaha/yamcs101.html

confession time; apart from my own experimental work im also in a disco
project called "bangkok impact" (*ducks*). weve taken to using a lot of
small and toy keyboards on stage because you can throw a lot of them
inbetween your clothes in your suitcase, they take up little room on stage,
can be modified, dont crash and they enable us to switch to completely
freestyle jamming at any moment. some of them produce a frightning amount of
bass too......

i wholeheartedly recomend the practice to everybody.

Kas.

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> "Flauberts Parrot" by Julian Barnes
>

ahh Flaubert's Parrot. that's a good one.
on another note, how do you take the cleverness
of literary games to music? i mean you have to
know a language to read it, but you don't have
to know music to listen to it, hence a lot of the
word play and tricks that mark great literature
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"AO Barnabooth: His Diary" by Valery Larbaud
"Fractal Music" by Charles Madden
"Flauberts Parrot" by Julian Barnes
"The Philosophers Stone" by Colin Wilson
"Pierre Boulez" by Dominiqu Jameux, trans by Susan
Bradshaw

The Madden book was particularly useless for any
practical purposes. I have a review on my other
computer if anyone is interested. Maybe I will just
post it tomorrow. When I think of fractal music, I
usually think of starting out with fractal melodies,
i.e. notes. I have not considered starting out from
smaller parts.

-Josh Ronsen
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1- Dhalgren - Samuel R. Delany
2- Ark - Howard Johnson
3- Illustrated Man - Ray Bradbury
4- On the Road - Jack Kerouac
5- The Infernal Desire Machines of Doctor Hoffman - Angela Carter
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Artists who link nature with electronics/micro/art/performance, and interested to perform at a picnic on August 29, somewhere in Belgium, please revert back off-list.

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Hi all,

I am looking for some opportunities to perform/present my work, 
particularly abroad (I live in Vancouver, Canada). I make beatless 
experimental digital audio, lately incorporating soundscape recordings in 
with purely digital sound. I'm doing my Master's in Fine Arts at Simon 
Fraser University in Vancouver, and I've performed at NWEAMO in Oregon, 
Vancouver for Vancouver New Music's Dangerous Currents Festival and 
Signal and Noise.

You can hear samples of my work @a< www.sfu.ca/~pthomson/>

If anyone here is a curator or knows of a good place to submit such work, 
please contact me *off-list*, unless you think the info would be useful to 
others on the list.

Thanks in advance for any info.

P


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- Prince of Puke - John Waters
- Baby Cat Face - Barry Gifford
- El Idiota Moral - Norbert Bilbeny
- La nueva Carne - Antonio Jos Navarro 
- Cynismes Portrait du Philosophe en Chien - Michel Onfray

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that Steve Erickson novel Days Between Stations
Woody Allen - Getting Even (one of the better pieces of
literature ever actually)
Some Giorgio Agamben book I checked out from the
library started reading and had to return before I could
get even 100 pages in. You'd think they'd have a special
rate for philosophy books, less than 2 weeks just doesn't work.
The Delueze Guitari essay on Kafka which ironically I still have.

-
A


On Monday, June 28, 2004, at 01:22 PM, Ryan Whitehead wrote:

> Law in America - A Short History: Lawrence Friedman
> Future of Ideas: Lawrence Lessig
> Anatomy of Melancholy: Robert Burton
> The Middle East: Bernard Lewis
> Catalan Cuisine: Coleman Andrews
> The Red Queen - Sex and the Evolution of Human Nature: Matt Ridley
>
> Ryan Whitehead
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kim Cascone [mailto:xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx]
> Sent: Monday, June 28, 2004 8:21 AM
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> hey, I'm asking once again for a 'last five or so books read' list from
> microsounders...they don't have to be 'sound art' related and can be
> anything at all...here's mine to start and thanks to Joshua for the
> Markson
> tip!
>
> - The Golden Ratio - Mario Livio
> - Hey, Nostradamus - Douglas Coupland
> - Wittgenstein's Mistress - David Markson
> - Music of the Primes - Marcus du Sautoy
> - Cosmopolis - Don Delillo
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Law in America - A Short History: Lawrence Friedman
Future of Ideas: Lawrence Lessig
Anatomy of Melancholy: Robert Burton
The Middle East: Bernard Lewis
Catalan Cuisine: Coleman Andrews
The Red Queen - Sex and the Evolution of Human Nature: Matt Ridley 
 
Ryan Whitehead

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hey, I'm asking once again for a 'last five or so books read' list from
microsounders...they don't have to be 'sound art' related and can be
anything at all...here's mine to start and thanks to Joshua for the
Markson
tip!

- The Golden Ratio - Mario Livio
- Hey, Nostradamus - Douglas Coupland
- Wittgenstein's Mistress - David Markson
- Music of the Primes - Marcus du Sautoy
- Cosmopolis - Don Delillo
- Vernon Little God - DBC Pierre


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- "Philosophy and Freedom: Derrida, Rorty, Habermas, Foucault" by John McCumber

- "The Conscious Universe: Part and Whole in Modern Physical Theory" by Menas Kafatos and Robert Nadeau

- "Wen Tzu: Understanding The Mysteries" attributed to Lao Tzu, translated by Thomas Cleary

- "Book of Lies: The Disinformation Guide to Magick and The Occult" edited by Richard Metzger

- "Techgnosis: Myth, Magic, + Mysticism in the age of information" by Erik Davis


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> hey, I'm asking once again for a 'last five or so books read' list from
> microsounders...they don't have to be 'sound art' related and can be
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Here are mine:

The Paris Review #75, Spring 1979
"Construction"  John Rajchman
"The Deleuze Connections"  John Rajchman
"Buddhism Without Beliefs"  Stephen Batchelor
"City of God"  E.L. Doctorow

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> tip!
> 


Here are mine:

The Paris Review #75, Spring 1979
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"Buddhism Without Beliefs"  Stephen Batchelor
"City of God"  E.L. Doctorow

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Jeremy Cramption - The Political Mapping of Cyberspace
Charlie Gere - Digital Culture
Manuel De Landa - War in the Age of Intelligent Machines
Geert Lovink, ed. - Uncanny Networks: Conversations with the Virtual 
Intelligentsia
Gary Shapiro - Alcyone ( a book on Nietsche, the gift, noise and women )


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> that' s mine...
>
> -Condominium- J. G. Ballard
> -Power Politics- Arundhati Roy
> -Primitive Rebels: Studies in Archaic Forms of Social Movement- E. Hobsbawm
> -Tomorrow Now- B. Sterling
> -The air-conditioned nigthmare- Henry Miller
> -Trilogy- AgotaKristof
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>> hey, I'm asking once again for a 'last five or so books read' list from
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>> anything at all...here's mine to start and thanks to Joshua for the Markson
>> tip!
>>
>> - The Golden Ratio - Mario Livio
>> - Hey, Nostradamus - Douglas Coupland
>> - Wittgenstein's Mistress - David Markson
>> - Music of the Primes - Marcus du Sautoy
>> - Cosmopolis - Don Delillo
>> - Vernon Little God - DBC Pierre
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that' s mine...

-Condominium- J. G. Ballard
-Power Politics- Arundhati Roy
-Primitive Rebels: Studies in Archaic Forms of Social Movement- E. Hobsbawm
-Tomorrow Now- B. Sterling
-The air-conditioned nigthmare- Henry Miller
-Trilogy- AgotaKristof


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> hey, I'm asking once again for a 'last five or so books read' list from
> microsounders...they don't have to be 'sound art' related and can be
> anything at all...here's mine to start and thanks to Joshua for the Markson
> tip!
> 
> - The Golden Ratio - Mario Livio
> - Hey, Nostradamus - Douglas Coupland
> - Wittgenstein's Mistress - David Markson
> - Music of the Primes - Marcus du Sautoy
> - Cosmopolis - Don Delillo
> - Vernon Little God - DBC Pierre
> 
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can't resist stuff like this. no music books really. funny that.

"The Hilbert Challenge" - Jeremy J Gray (OUP, 2000)
"The Structure of Evolutionary Theory" - Stephen J. Gould (Harvard, 
2002)
"Longitude" - Dava Sobel (Harper, 1998)
"Non-Places: The Anthroplogy of Supermodernity" - Marc Auge (Verso, 
1997)
"Media Manifestos" - Regis Debray (Verso, 1996)

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- The Golden Ratio - Mario Livio
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- Vernon Little God - DBC Pierre


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BROKEN SLEEP dark ambient/noise glitchcomassault
looking for european gigs mid/late-august to
mid-october...this will be a laptop-based tour
(perhaps w. some external/kinetic input) unlike my
effects pedal-based sets that i played in paris,
strasbourg, and leipzig last year (as "clone")

("clone" and "monotonaut") mp3 links:
http://freewebs.com/brokensleep

...including a couple phillip glass remixes:
http://freewebs.com/brokensleep/brokensleep-sulch-01.mp3
http://freewebs.com/brokensleep/brokensleep-fd-03.mp3

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(pick of the week for the LA WEEkly)
18th Street Art CENTER HOSTS :
freeears
A micro festival of today's sounds

(curated by Samon Takahashi)

 

Monday, 28th of June, 2004
 

Concerts at  HIGHWAYS PERFORMANCE SPACE

http://www.highwaysperformance.org/

 

1651 18th Street

( north of Olympic bldv )

Santa Monica, CA 90404

Reservation : 310 315 1459

 

GEORG NUSSBAUMER [at], BOB BELLERUE [us], PETER KOLOVOS [us] / SAMON TAKAHASHI [fr], JOHN WIESE [us]

 

>From 8.30 pm

ticket : 10$

 

 

+

Sound installations and video at 18th STREET 1629 BLDG

 

1629 18th Street

( north of Olympic blvd )

Santa Monica, CA 90404

 

J.FREDE [us], JEFF CAIN [us], STEVE RODEN [us], MIRIAM BAJTALA [at], ERIK VESTVILLE [us]

 

>From 7.00 pm

ticket : free

 

 

Freeears would like to thank the 18th Street Art Center, the Association Franaise d'Action Artistique (AFAA), the French Consulate in Los Angeles, and the Institut fr Kulturfrderung des Landes Obersterreich
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on sale now!

Artists: j.frede / Scanner

Title: "j.frede rewrites scanner's diary" CD
Label: current recordings
Catalog number: current.002 

www.current-recordings.com 


In 2000 UK based artist Scanner released a cd titled DIARY on
Sulpher Records to accompany a tour he was doing directly related to his diaries.
Robin Rimbaud (aka.scanner) has keep a diary since 1976,
never missing a single day regardless of his location in the world
or the hour of day he was able to do so.

The tour in 2000 he incorporated some of these very personal entries
into public performances. The Diary CD was
a collection of live recordings. In 2001 Robin gave me a copy of
the Diary cd while i was visiting him in London, and explained
the tour and intention of the tour. I was very intrigued by the personal
aspect of him sharing passages from his diaries, electronic music
is one of the more impersonal forms of music, often seen as cold
due to the synthetic sounds and processes used in creating it.

In 2003, Robin and myself were discussing working together, and
i suggested this project, and since we both share a sense of humor
the titled seemed fitting and funny.

j.frede began taking apart his live recordings from the CD, taking care to
not mix the sources from track to track, out of my own neurotic
conceptual nature, and create new tracks or in this instance "pages"
from the recordings. The finished piece is a full length album that
explores the textures and sounds created by Scanner, arranged in
new compositions. all of the sounds and samples on the rewrite cd
are taken from the original CD.

the packaging is silk-screened digipaks, with full color inserts.
limited to 500 copies






 



CD liner notes: 

 

May 28 2004

22.48

A diary is a means of recording our history, moments that are lost each 
and every day, our passions and ideas, our frustrations and 
inspirations, people we've seen, places we've visited. I have kept a 
diary since I was twelve years old, never missing a day since 1976. No 
matter where I am nor at what hour, I still record each day with a fine 
black fountain pen.

In 2000 I released a series of live recordings, 'Diary,' on CD (Sulphur 
Records) to accompany a UK tour where I incorporated some of these very 
personal entries into public performances. Much of my work experiments 
with diverse media in order to search out, find, reveal, process, 
distort and re-present elements of our environment, to make the 
ordinary extraordinary.

July 23 2004

21:50

I dreamt that the artist J.Frede had rewritten my diary in sound. He 
had created a delightfully impressive re-interpretation of the original 
Diary CD, transforming and expanding the music into a sonic reflection 
of cloudy elegance. When I woke up I wished it were true.



Robin Rimbaud

 

 

Related weblinks:

 

www.current-recordings.com 

www.jfrede.com 

www.scannerdot.com 

 

Publicist:

Lynn Hasty, Green Galactic

xxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx

www.greengalactic.com 


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bio.scanner
 
Battersea-based ambient composer Robin Rimbaud, aka Scanner, takes his curious pseudonym from his compositional tool of choice; the cellphone scanner. Although only recording and releasing music since the early '90s, Rimbaud has already earned a reputation as a boundary pushing experimentalist, wedding scanned vocal samples with sparse electronics and other textural elements that underscore the degree of strain and isolation often associated with modern telecommunications technology. Though working increasingly toward other, more musical compositional devices, his first several releases went heavy on the lifted convo, attracting as often the comment of postgrad pocket theorists interested in the critical implications of Rimbaud's work as the music critics. Although admitting to a certain voyeuristic fixation even in his childhood, Rimbaud's began exploring it through music only recently, acquiring a police scanner from the Brixton Hunt and Saboteurs group (a sort of wargames/survivalist collective) at a surprising discount. He's since recorded a number of albums and completed remixes for Oval, Scorn, and others. Thought not as varied or complex in his approach as some of his peers in the European electronic music avant-garde, Rimbaud's probing experimentalism and developing focus has won him high praise among the more cerebral of the emusic set, resulting in a number of commissioned performance and composition opportunities that have brought him in contact with the likes of David Shea, Bill Laswell, Oval's Markus Popp, and Karlheinz Stockhausen (the latter of which Rimbaud counts among his admirers). He also worked on the score for the film The Garden Is Full of Metal, about late film director Derek Jarman. In 2001 Scanner returned with the album Wave of Light by Wave of Light, using the name Scannerfunk.~ Sean Cooper, All Music Guide



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j.frede | biographical information
 
(b.1975) 
Originating from New Mexico, j.frede works as a composer, sound designer and installation artist. Frede has been residing in Los Angeles since 2002, previously living and working out of Colorado from 1996-2001. Traveling abroad consistently since 1998, his work has been presented throughout Europe as well as here in the United States. 
 
In 2003 "Blip: the glitch electronica standard reference" loops for acid CDROM was released by Sonic Foundry / SONY. Blip contains over 700 copyright free sounds for composers to use in their music and is part of the extensive "loops for acid" series. Frede created this library along with C. Archuleta and is scheduled to release a second volume in 2004. 
 
When performing live, j.frede utilizes a variety of PC based software to write compositions in real time using found sounds and digital manipulations. His installation work is designed to create subtle listening environments in galleries and performance spaces. Each installation follows a conceptual basis and is presented with documentation of the project.
 
The Curatorial work of j.frede includes several events at The Boulder Museum of Contemporary Art as well as The Museum of Contemporary Art Denver. Frede also founded the Denver Atonal Festival that ran for 5 consecutive years and presented over 50 artists. He also owned and operated the Chernobyl Tone Gallery in Denver, Colorado from 1999-2000 showcasing countless touring acts from the United States, Europe and Japan. Chernobyl was dedicated to sound art and a direct relation between visual art and music. A number of infamous performance art pieces were presented during its existence including the "bomb" performance and "vegetarianism" which was reminiscent of the 1960's actionist movement. In 2000 he curated the audio portion of the Telluride International Experimental Cinema Exposition, which provided a continuous flow of sound and music throughout the festival. 
 
The most recent event Frede co-produced, along side Green Galactic & ACF/LA, was the west coast launch party for e|i magazine. It featured live performances by Steve Roden, Akira Rabelias, Kit Clayton, Sue Costabile as well as Frede himself. 
 
 
 
j.frede | artistic overview 
 
As a composer, j.frede collects sonic atmospheres of both organic and manmade origin that are natural occurring in regards to the sound's source. Seeking out sounds that could be mistaken for synthetic or electronically created, frede arranges them into composition form and presents the work in both live performances and in the form of sound installations.
 
In the past, frede has created computer or synthesizer based works but primarily works with field recordings. Live, j.frede utilizes a variety of software to create sound banks with real-time control to create soundscapes that range from quiet and minimal to dense surround sound performances. 
 
Frede also works with acoustics from both instruments and objects to create subtle compositions. One example would be the "Quiet series" performance in which an Indian banjo was used in a non-traditional manner to create near silent sounds using the keys of the instrument and the resonating strings. The sound was slowly brought into the laptop and mixed subtlety into the sound system. Another other example is the "glass music" performance j.frede presented at the Museum of Contemporary Art Denver. Using various sizes and shapes of water filled wine glasses j.frede and Marleah Tobin performed a drone based work using the resonating sounds of the glasses to create a think sonic environment. The duo was followed by a surround sound piece created by 6 performers and 27 wine glasses.
 
The installation work of j.frede is designed to create subtle listening environments in galleries and performance spaces. Each installation follows a conceptual basis and is achieved using multiple cd players, multiple small speakers, and compositions specific to the installation. The most recent installation, Selected Phonographies, was featured at the Soundvision Gallery in Portland Oregon in May 2003. The installation consisted of 24,1 inch speakers divided into 3 stereo channels. The speakers where hanging from the ceiling of the gallery space at various lengths. The sound for the installation consisted of binaural field recordings from the United States and Europe and was arranged to enhance the binaural properties and to create new spatial properties for the visitors to experience. This piece was sold and is now installed in a private residence in Corvallis, Oregon.
 
Some of the pending projects include a documentation of the American west titled American Gothic. Working with photographer Marleah Tobin, American Gothic will explore the ruins of rural America, taking photographs and recordings of rather insignificant abandoned structures to showcase the beauty of these long since forgotten locations.
 
The other major project that Frede is currently perusing is a process of turning architecture into musical scores or notation. Using a combination of the visual lines and corners and the topographical data of the building itself, Frede will create notation using the vertical, horizontal and depth data. There are plans to present a finished work of this technique by the end of 2004.
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At 9:07 PM -0700 6/25/04, lim wrote:
>before i go digging around on my own i just wanted to ask if anyone knows of
>or could recommend (off-list) any reliable data recovery companies in the
>us...my laptop.s hard-drive failed yesterday, and i was unable to recover
>any of my work before i think it went entirely...right now i.m just really
>afraid of losing three months of work since my last full backup.

I have sent a number of drives to the appropriately named Lazarus 
here in SF with good results for very low cost and quick turnaround:

Lazarus Data Recovery
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contact is William Chang

Good luck.

micro-ps - High recommendations for the Treble sound art show at the 
Sculpure Center in Queens, for those in NYC this summer.

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About a month ago while using file vault on OS X (10.3.3), witch I hardly
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On 6/26/04 13:04, "Joakim Lindn" <xxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> wrote:

> Have you tried the software recovery solutions?
> 
> "Easy Recovery" is one and there is another one which I can't remember right
> now, but I used it to get back approx. 100Gb of files from a formatted and
> partly overwritten drive...
> 
> To ask a company to extract the data physically would probably be VERY VERY
> expensive and time consuming.
> 
> 
> I must say good luck anyway, hope it works out.
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>> > before i go digging around on my own i just wanted to ask if anyone knows
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>> > us...my laptop.s hard-drive failed yesterday, and i was unable to recover
>> > any of my work before i think it went entirely...right now i.m just really
>> > afraid of losing three months of work since my last full backup.
>> >
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>Hello, I'll be going to Hong Kong this summer and I'm wondering if
>anyone has any recommendation on where to have a microsound or
>experimental music experience while I'm there.  Any record shops or
>venues that would be good to check out?  Any other off the beaten path
>recommendation would be appreciated as well.

Monitor Records is the best alternative record shop in HK, with the largest 
collection of CD ranging from HK independent music, Dark Wave, Electronica, 
Avant-Garde, Experimental, Post-Rock, Japanese Psych-Rock...etc.

Unit 5, G/F, Block A,
Fortune Terrace, 4-16 Tak Shing Street,
Jordan, Kowloon
Tel: 2782 3562

There are no specific venues in HK dedicated for microsound/experimental 
music performance.

When exactly are you coming? I can check and let you know if anything 
interesting is going to happen during your time of visit.

Below are some links you might want to take a look:

http://www.zuni.org.hk/

http://www.hkfringe.com.hk/

http://www.para-site.org.hk/

http://www.oneaspace.org.hk/

deN:niS
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great Japanese Psych bands at the Empty Bottle Aug 5

I am making the trip for that
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  fuck, sorry;  that was just supposed to go to albert.

  --- jake elliott <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
  > hey, al;
  > 
  > how are you?  what are you doing in chicago in
  > august?
  >  if you need a place to stay, i'm happy to offer.
  > 
  > we should definitely meet up while you're here. 
  > what
  > are the dates of your visit?
  > 
  > let me know your dates and i'll get in touch with my
  > friends who host performances around here.
  > 
  > best;
  > jake;
  > 
  > --- Al C <xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
  > > Hi all,
  > > 
  > > Does anyone know of any happenings in Chicago for
  > > the month of August? Also,
  > > If anyone can recommend any record stores or
  > > galleries that would be nice
  > > too. And, I'm always available for any
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wow.
maybe - if water is short - we could wash our cloths with sound... 

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fuck, sorry;  that was just supposed to go to albert.

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> 
> how are you?  what are you doing in chicago in
> august?
>  if you need a place to stay, i'm happy to offer.
> 
> we should definitely meet up while you're here. 
> what
> are the dates of your visit?
> 
> let me know your dates and i'll get in touch with my
> friends who host performances around here.
> 
> best;
> jake;
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> --- Al C <xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
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> > 
> > Does anyone know of any happenings in Chicago for
> > the month of August? Also,
> > If anyone can recommend any record stores or
> > galleries that would be nice
> > too. And, I'm always available for any
> > performances;-)
> > 
> > best,
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hey, al;

how are you?  what are you doing in chicago in august?
 if you need a place to stay, i'm happy to offer.

we should definitely meet up while you're here.  what
are the dates of your visit?

let me know your dates and i'll get in touch with my
friends who host performances around here.

best;
jake;

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Simon Hampson wrote:

>Wow - that's a nice concept but it got me wondering.. what if the seals
>failed?? I mean the amount of noise that would escape.. certainly wouldn't
>be microsound anymore :)
>
>Simon.
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Perhaps we should then release the first mega macrosound record, then ; ) ?

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> People like Frank Barknecht and myself [from time to time] are busy
> building end-user "applications" in PD as educatinal tools, but I really
> prefer building things from low-level objects rather than cobbling
> together all the ready-made "blackboxes" in Max/MSP. It was a reason I
> disliked Reaktor so much: when I wanted to use a granulator, they had
> one or two "granulator objects" which you could send parameters to, but
> no way of getting inside the object to chnage its basic function. So I
> build my own in PD, and know exactly how they work and what I can change
> on the most basic levels. This way, I feel that the sound I make is my
> own creation, and not that I'm just twiddling someone else's buttons.

I agree, and work in the same way, by programming my own tools. But I do
think the opposite view is totally valid: tools that have a lot of
funtionality out-of-the-box and a good interface, make it easier and faster
to finish art.

I understand the need for personalized tools. Like many people, I feel that
my ideas are not possible with off-the-shelf tools. But I also sort-of
resent the time + effort required to make these tools, and sometimes feel
the time + effort would be better spent on art-making.

I don't mind the left-brain effort of building a tool if it's transparent
enough for me to enjoy it thoroughly in right-brain mode. It should be
totally intuitive at playtime. In the words of one of America's greatest
poets: "I wanna get up + do my thing, I wanna get into it, man, you
know...like a, like a sex machine, man...movin', doin' it, you know. Can I
count it off? One two three four"

Kurt








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Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2004 18:29:22 +0200
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Kurt Ralske wrote:

> 
> I agree, and work in the same way, by programming my own tools. But I do
> think the opposite view is totally valid: tools that have a lot of
> funtionality out-of-the-box and a good interface, make it easier and faster
> to finish art.
> 
> I understand the need for personalized tools. Like many people, I feel that
> my ideas are not possible with off-the-shelf tools. But I also sort-of
> resent the time + effort required to make these tools, and sometimes feel
> the time + effort would be better spent on art-making.

Having that in mind and mentioning Kyma as Tjeerd did is a bit odd for 
me, maybe there is a wrong idea of it flying around...

Kyma can be regarded as a PD or Max/MSP in Hardware. All have a lot 
examples but you have to create a lot on you own too, that is the 
feature of the 3 systems. And can meanwhile Kyma be patched in realtime 
while running like PD and Max or does it still need to be compiled first 
and then listen/tweaked???

Cheers,

Malte
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From 
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2004 16:20:29 +0000 (UTC)
From: Phil Thomson <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
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> e.g. I don't know any
> linux-tool with which you can morph spectra. This of course could also
> very well mean that I'm not that good in browsing the internet.

Once, when browsing the internet, I found this:

http://www.cerlsoundgroup.org/Loris/

P


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Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2004 02:19:53 +0000 (UTC)
From: Phil Thomson <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
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>> what I meant was that basic functions are well supported, but many
>> advanced functions are absent in programs. e.g. I don't know any
>> linux-tool with which you can morph spectra. This of course could also
>> very well mean that I'm not that good in browsing the internet.
>
> - Csound
>
> does this for me since ages on virtually all platforms

How? Do you have some orc's and/or sco's you could post?

> - Pure-Data

Ditto.

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Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2004 11:49:52 +0200
From: Malte Steiner <xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx>
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Phil Thomson wrote:
>>> what I meant was that basic functions are well supported, but many
>>> advanced functions are absent in programs. e.g. I don't know any
>>> linux-tool with which you can morph spectra. This of course could also
>>> very well mean that I'm not that good in browsing the internet.
>>
>>
>> - Csound
>>
>> does this for me since ages on virtually all platforms
> 
> 
> How? Do you have some orc's and/or sco's you could post?

There are lot of ways to do this in Csound, one would be the usage of 
phasevocoders and the opcode (module) pvinterp:

nchnls = 1
instr 1
ktime1  line      0, p3, 1 ; index A (playposition), change this to 
reflect the correct lengths
ktime2  line      0, p3, 1 ; index B
kinterp line      0,p3,1   ; morph index        
         pvbufread ktime1, "A.pvc"
apv     pvinterp  ktime2,1,"B2.pvc",1,1,1,1, kinterp,kinterp

;          pvinterp  index 2 file, f scale, filename,
;                                fscale 1 file, fscale 2 file,
;                               amp scale 1  , amp scale 2
;                         freq morph factor, amp morph factor
out apv
endin


don't forget you need to pvoc analyse your input to get the .pvc files 
and a score file with the right length, which influences p3.

Other opcode doing simular but different artefacts: lpinterp for LPC 
resynthesis.

> 
>> - Pure-Data
got less modules, maybe because its decades younger then csound, but the 
key is fft again, once something is fft'ed you can do a lot with it. For 
instance convolution, a kind of crosssynthesis, is just done by 
multiplying fft spectra. So how about crossfade the convolutionspectra 
between to sounds and multiply it with another fft'ed sound.

have fun,

Malte

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From 
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2004 13:33:20 -0400
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[...]

Universe started with hiss, not bang // audio file of the first million
years...
<http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns99995092>

        'The variations in the cosmic background radiation expose the relative
clumpiness of the early cosmos at a variety of different scales. These
density variations began as quantum fluctuations in the moments after
the big bang, and then propagated out as sonic waves. The denser
regions became the seeds of galaxies and stars, which is why
astronomers are so interested in them.' .. 'Translating the observed
frequency spectrum directly to sound yields tones far too low for ears
to hear - some 50 octaves below middle A - but transpose the score up
all those octaves and you can listen to it.'

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Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2004 18:06:26 -0400
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More of a rumble than a hiss (below .0000000003 hz!)....a rumble 
considerably lower than the "brown noise" (rumored to be approx. 12hz)

I guess it's still a bang in the max/msp sense...

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From 
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2004 00:31:13 +0200
From: Arie van Schutterhoef <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx>
Subject: RE: [microsound] Fwd: Universe started with hiss, not bang
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>I guess it's still a bang in the max/msp sense...
-Probably more of a whimper...

AvS

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From 
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2004 10:34:03 -0700
From: cjw <xxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx>
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Hello, I'll be going to Hong Kong this summer and I'm wondering if
anyone has any recommendation on where to have a microsound or
experimental music experience while I'm there.  Any record shops or
venues that would be good to check out?  Any other off the beaten path
recommendation would be appreciated as well.

Thanks

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From: jon <xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx.xx>
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i remember asking the same questions a little while ago.  as far as i 
remember, there is a record store on the kowloon side (i think it's in 
mong kok) called zoo records, which is in a shopping mall down the 
bottom in some tiny space... probably the best records i managed to 
find in hong kong.  experimental music and post-rock fare as well... 
however, not much different to what you'd probably find back home.  
there's also another store in kowloon, the name of which i can't 
remember right now... it's pretty great and stocks a bunch of local 
experimental/interesting releases, as well as having the biggest 
stocked collection of muslimgauze i'd ever seen in one place.  as for 
bands, they tend to float past very sporadically (mostly expat business 
jerks putting on very sparse little shows)... i met some great kids who 
made cool stuff on their computers, but hey, who knows where the rest 
are?

good luck,
jon.

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> Hello, I'll be going to Hong Kong this summer and I'm wondering if
> anyone has any recommendation on where to have a microsound or
> experimental music experience while I'm there.  Any record shops or
> venues that would be good to check out?  Any other off the beaten path
> recommendation would be appreciated as well.






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does anyone know where i can get more information about ezara hoffman and 
hoffman's software which is in-between sound and drawing?

googling hasn't helped :-(

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From 
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2004 15:49:24 -0600
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Dear microsound community,

Please note:

THE ART OF IMMERSIVE SOUNDSCAPES

A Summer Institute at the University of Regina 

July 5-19, 2004

The Department of Music and the Department of Media Production and 
Studies, University of Regina, are proud to present The Art of 
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Interested? Please visit:

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(what could be a prepared synthetizer ?),

there are two ways in my opinion to prepare a synth. (just thinking out 
loud)

1 circuit bending. bridging random pins on the ICs in the synthesizer.

2 preparing the loudspeakers that the synthesizer will play through.

although neither of these is technically preparing a synthesizer, both will 
yeild interesting results.

p

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From 
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 23:42:01 +0100
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----- Original Message -----
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Subject: RE: [microsound] prepared piano well, actually synthesizer.


> (what could be a prepared synthetizer ?),
>
> there are two ways in my opinion to prepare a synth. (just thinking out
> loud)
>
> 1 circuit bending. bridging random pins on the ICs in the synthesizer.
>


I was lucky enough to witnes The Modified Toy Orchestra last weekend in
Leicester as part of the Sonic Arts Network, Soundcircus event (anyone get
to go?). The sounds this guy got out of these toys were fantastic (from
glitches and sounscape kind of stuff to full on noise fest and barrage of
beats) and the performance of him coaxing and wrenching out those sounds
captivated the entire audience.

I got the chance for a brief chat with Brian after the show where he
explained that basically he traces a wire over the circuitboard causing
shorts and if it has an interesting effect he puts a switch in. I found this
on a quick search:

http://westmidlands.ideasfactory.com/performance/features/feature22.htm

it seems similar to the modified speak and spell on the Alien Instruments
page graham posted.

Also I bought a single on the night called "This Is The Monkey" on Warm
Circuit (WWW.WARMCIRCUIT.COM) which isn't as good as the live stuff but
still quite good (the other side "Ode To Joy" is better).

Best

Murray
(dj_spleenbaby)





From 
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2004 23:13:34 -0400
From: graham miller <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx>
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www.alien-devices.com

i have an alesis hr16 done by him and i'm sending off my tr-727 shortly to be
lovingly butchered. awesome sounds. digital detritus at its best (god i love
that word - thanks tobias). great for industrial, drill n' bass, noise and
hard techno and all things lullaby-like...

g.

Patrick Norris wrote:

> (what could be a prepared synthetizer ?),
>
> there are two ways in my opinion to prepare a synth. (just thinking out
> loud)
>
> 1 circuit bending. bridging random pins on the ICs in the synthesizer.
>
> 2 preparing the loudspeakers that the synthesizer will play through.
>
> although neither of these is technically preparing a synthesizer, both will
> yeild interesting results.
>
> p
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Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2004 11:26:22 -0400
From: precursor <xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
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on 6/16/04 11:13 PM, graham miller at xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx wrote:

> www.alien-devices.com
> 
> i have an alesis hr16 done by him and i'm sending off my tr-727 shortly to be
> lovingly butchered. awesome sounds. digital detritus at its best (god i love
> that word - thanks tobias). great for industrial, drill n' bass, noise and
> hard techno and all things lullaby-like...
> 
> g.
> 
> Patrick Norris wrote:
> 
>> (what could be a prepared synthetizer ?),
>> 
>> there are two ways in my opinion to prepare a synth. (just thinking out
>> loud)
>> 
>> 1 circuit bending. bridging random pins on the ICs in the synthesizer.
>> 
>> 2 preparing the loudspeakers that the synthesizer will play through.
>> 
>> although neither of these is technically preparing a synthesizer, both will
>> yeild interesting results.
>> 
>> p
>> 
  interesting, what do you mean by preparing speakers, can you list a few
examples?






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BiP_HOp Generation
The classiest collection of contemporary sound-design... an anthology of
the state of modern electronic art and sound design... Each volume
offers more than 70 mns of exclusive music and comes in a 6 page
Digipack including a booklet w/ infos on each sound-assembler

BiP_HOp Generation [v.7] [bleep 24]
TAYLOR DEUPREE (us), inhabits New-York and founded 12K records in 1997 :
a center for minimal, digital music. In collaboration with Richard
Chartier,
Deupree started the LINE sublabel to further question the ideas of
minimalism. Deupree has issued music on Sub Rosa, Mille Plateaux, 12K...
www.12k.com
EMISOR (ar), After years performing in the underground arts world in
Buenos Aires,  Leonardo Ramella started his Emisor project in 1998. He
has released 5 albums since then... www.emisor.ws
FONICA (jp), Keiichi Sugimoto and Cheason live in Tokyo. Keiichi is also
a member of Minamo and runs the Cubic Music label. Cheason designs most
of the artwork for the plop label --  www.inpartmaint.com/plop/
FM3 (cn), a Beijing-based collective of computer and classical
musicians, fm3 focuses on digitally distilling ancient Chinese folk
tradition into an organic, meditative, minimalist soundscape --
www.fm3.com.cn
GHISLAIN POIRIER (ca), Montreal native Poirier released two
critically-acclaimed full-lengths on experimental labels 12K and
Intr_version. Recently his work appeared on Chocolate Industries.
JANEK SCHAEFER [uk] Janek trained as an architect at the Royal College
of Art, emerged as a sound artist and composer, and lives and works in
London. He has releases on FatCat, Hot Air, Staalplaat, Sirr, Sub Rosa
and runs AudiOh! -- www.audiOh.com

BiP_HOp Generation [v.6] [bleep 19]
SCANNER (uk) Since 1992, Robin Rimbaud has composed albums, soundtracks
for films, performances, radio, and site-specific intermedia
installations.   www.scannerdot.com
ILPO VAISANEN (Fi) 1/2 of renowned duo Pan Sonic, Ilpo goes solo once in
a while. Check his records on Mego and Raster:Noton...
ANGEL (De/Fi) the collaborative project of Schneider TM  and Ilpo
Visnen. First album out on BiP_HOp.
BATTERY OPERATED (Ca) trio living in Montreal, and Paris.
www.batteryoperated.net
ALEJANDRA & AERON (US/Es) Founders of the Lucky Kitchen label and
recently prized at Ars Electronica.  www.luckykitchen.com
BITTONIC (De) improvised glitch-tech performances based around
electronically manipulated and digitally warped voice sounds. Iris is
co-organiser of London based Sprawl and Field 61.
www.dfuse.com/BitTonic

BiP_HOp Generation [v.5] [bleep 13]
ACCELERA DECK (USA) Active in obscurity for many years he has crossed
paths with Neo Ouija, Pitchcadet, Morr, 555 recordings...
ANDREW DUKE (Ca) has been recording and performing his own music,
producing and remixing others, and hosting his weekly radio show since
1987. Upcoming records on BiP_HOp, Staalplaat, Phtalo...
MIKAEL STAVOSTRAND (Se) a key figure in the Swedish experimental music
scene releasing on Mille Plateaux
TONNE (UK) The last three years have seen Paul Farrington develop and
produce controlled systems for sound and image interaction. He has
worked with Scanner, Hkan Lidbo and Monolake.
RECHENZENTRUM (De) creators of Maladjusted Electronica, who sample sound
and image from every possible source - the potential of the raw
material, irritation, and questioning the forms of reception are guiding
lights...
D'IBERVILLE (Fr)  A music made of rhythm layers, digital artifacts and
more organic sounds : process more than result ! Julien Berthier is the
graphic designer of the BiP_HOp website and "generation series" artwork.

+ enhanced CD "BiP_HOp's soundtoy" created by Tonne. Interactive sound
interfaces allow music to be visually produced, samples and tones are
triggered by the activity of the graphics.

BiP-HOp Generation v. 4 [bleep 08]
MIRA CALIX (UK) south african born italian currently working on her
second solo album, for Warp.
SI-(CUT).DB (UK) is half of Tennis & running the Sprawl Imprint.
DATACH'I (USA) comes from New-York, 3 albums on Caipirinha.
TWINE (USA) releases on Komplott, Hefty.
Vs_PRICE (France) is one of the best French acts, working on a 12" to
appear on Adenoide.
CRAY (Aus) released recordings with projects such as Eden, Amnesia, 56k
and This Digital Ocean. Minimal meets sonic creations, glitch beats,
ambient, abstract soundscapes, noise and melody, digital dreams and
technology.

BiP-HOp Generation v. 3 [bleep 05]
NEOTROPIC (UK) aka Riz Maslen records for Ninja Tune
BOVINE LIFE (UK) aka Chris Dooks is digital artist, broadcast tv
director and musician who has collaborated w/ Third Eye Foundation,
Komet, Kohn... First album upcoming on BiP_HOp.
PIMMON (Australia) aka Paul Gough who seems to be everywhere... KraaK,
Falt, Staalplaat, Meme...
ZONK'T (France) aka Laurent Perrier who used to be in Nox and used to
run Odd Size, Cape Fear and is now recording under this pseudonym.
ATAU TANAKA (Japan) who records for Caipirinha, Fals.ch and does
Sensorband.
NOVEL 23 (Russia) aka Roman Belousov who has an album on Pitchcadet.

BiP_HOp Generation v.2 [bleep 02]
BERNARD FLEISCHMANN (Austria) who has records on Morr Music,
Charhizma...
AROVANE (Germany) has records on Din, Morr, City Centre Offices,
Vertical Form
WARMDESK (USA) has done records for Fllt,  and Static Caravan + a split
w. PImmon on A Posterori
KHN (Belgium) has two albums on (Kraak)3.
WANG INC. (Italy) has done a 12" on Sonig.
LAURENT PERNICE (France) did 4 albums on PDCD and 2 new one are upcoming
on Moloko+ and Organic.

BiP_HOp Generation v.1 [bleep 01] :
SCHNEIDER TM (Germany) records for City Slang.
PHONEM (UK) has records with Morr Music, Jetlag...
GOEM (the Netherlands) have done albums with Mego, Staalplaat, Noise
MuseuM...
MARUMARI (new-york) Latest albums on Carpark.
ULTRA MILKMAIDS (France) Albums on Ant Zen, Noise MuseuM, Staalplaat ...

MASSIMO (Italy) Albums on Microwave, Fals.ch/Mego and Staalplaat.

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Hey there,

It's been a while since the last Symbiosis email but things have been
traveling nicely.. Last week Terre Thaemlitz had a chat to me about his
first visit Australia, the 'Lovebomb' multimedia performance and the usual
mix of great thought that always infuses his output. For those in Melbourne,
the show details are:

Friday 18 June, 7pm.
Kaleide RMIT Union Theatre
360 Swanston Street, Melbourne

The after party is at Safe and Sound.. totally free and best of all it's a
birthday celebration! (1 to be exact) Come down and celebrate @ Bourgie, 397
Lt Lonsdale St. b/w Elizabeth & Queen St.

This week's show will be pretty chilled - no guests at this stage...

Coming Soon: Antiopic Records/Allegorical Power Series feature, Exclusive
Sub Rosa mix and feature, all new website with streaming audio/archives!

cheers,

Simon.

np: Vladislav Delay - "demo(n) tracks" / Leaf Sampler - "Delivery Room"
Film: 'Supersize Me'

Terre Thaemlitz: http://comatonse.com/thaemlitz/

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Show 

From 
Date:  13/06/04

Artist :: Track :: Album :: Label


Terre Thaemlitz :: genrecide ('I wish Tricky'd Die Any Way I Hope') ::
Modulation & Transformation 4 :: Mille Plateaux

Wolfgang Voigt :: 1 :: 20 to 2000 :: Raster-Noton

Vladislav Delay :: kainuu :: Demo(n) Tracks :: Huume

- Terre Thaemlitz Interview including:
chng yourlove from 'Lovebomb' (Mille Plateaux)
welcome (time has left us) from 'Lovebomb' (Mille Plateaux)
DT from 'Institutional Collaborative' (with Jane Dowe) (Mille Plateaux)
SDII from 'Lovebomb' (Mille Plateaux)
(I focused on Lovebomb for this interview but I highly recommend Terre's
many past releases - check out www.comatonse.com)

Quiet American :: donkey trains leaving marpha, nepal :: Phonography.org 4
:: www.phonography.org

Lawrence English :: (excerpt) :: Ghost Towns :: Room40

Stalker :: #1 :: Empire :: Geometrik

Scanner :: remix mouse on mars :: Utopian Diaries: Double Articulation ::
Sub Rosa

Murcof :: una :: Delivery Room :: Leaf

Tu'M :: 12:46am :: domenica :: ERS

Johan Skugge :: varmland voodoo :: Who Is Your Superhero? (OFFF 03) :: Red

Qua :: stranger comforts have slipped by :: Motion :: Preservation


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From 
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2004 08:18:24 -0700
From: "j.frede" <xxxxxx@xxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: current.array t-shirts by Steve Roden, Janek Schaefer and John Hudak
To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>, xxxxxxxxx-xxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx,
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current recordings is proud to announce the launch of the new t-shirt line,
current.array .

current.array was created to bring you prints from composers working in the
field of computer, microsound and lowercase music. many of the composers for
the series you will be familiar with, some are lesser know, but none the
less
promising acts working in sound and design. when choosing the artists for
the
series we considered just that, composers whom also work as designers.

each season will bring three new prints, from three different artists. each
print
will only be available for a short time in a very limited run of 50 pieces.

printed on the highest quality t-shirts. each design will be sold in sizes
(men's) small - medium - large


summer.2004 brings us

steve roden
http://inbetweennoise.com
(trente oiseaux, sirr, line/12k)

janek schaefer
http://www.audiOh.com
(sub rosa, fat cat records, audiOh!)

john hudak
http://www.johnhudak.net
(alluvial Recordings, intransitive recordings, and-oar)

on sale June 23rd, 2004
you can reserve your shirt/s now on the website

to see the new line of shirts visit...
www.current-recordings.com

        also available June 23rd, the new j.frede/scanner cd titled "j.frede
rewrites scanners diary" out on current recordings, preview audio clips can
be heard on the site.







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Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2004 12:19:39 -0400
From: graham miller <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx>
Subject: Re: [microsound] current.array t-shirts by Steve Roden,
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great idea - does anyone know of any other microsound/glitch inspired clothing
lines out there? i am in dire new of some new tees...

g.

"j.frede" wrote:

> current recordings is proud to announce the launch of the new t-shirt line,
> current.array .






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on 6/17/04 12:19 PM, graham miller at xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx wrote:

> great idea - does anyone know of any other microsound/glitch inspired clothing
> lines out there? i am in dire new of some new tees...
> 
> g.
> 
> "j.frede" wrote:
> 
>> current recordings is proud to announce the launch of the new t-shirt line,
>> current.array .
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you should definitely check out www.Dotee.com 






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Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2004 19:40:32 -0400
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Subject: Re: [microsound] current.array t-shirts by Steve Roden,Janek        Schaefer
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all i get is the front page... how does one get in?

precursor wrote:

> on 6/17/04 12:19 PM, graham miller at xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx wrote:
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the little sidebar/contact button says its being
launched 5.1.04

v'

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> precursor wrote:
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From 
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2004 01:53:04 +0100
From: Noisejihad <xxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xx>
Subject: Re: [microsound] current.array t-shirts by Steve Roden,Janek Schaefer
 and John Hudak
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yeah, but however you read it (5th jan or 1st may) this date has long
passed...
Lars
www.waldchengarten.dk
www.noisejihad.dk
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> the little sidebar/contact button says its being
> launched 5.1.04
>
> v'
>
> --- graham miller <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> wrote:
> > all i get is the front page... how does one get in?
> >
> > precursor wrote:
> >
> > > on 6/17/04 12:19 PM, graham miller at
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> > >
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From 
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2004 00:56:17 -0400
From: Al Ka <xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [microsound] current.array t-shirts by Steve Roden,Janek Schaefer
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Thank you for your inquiries.

We apologize for the delay; we are currently finalizing the script for the 
website.
In the meantime, if you are interested, we can email our collection in 
digital form (off-list).

As soon as the website is complete, the list will certainly be informed.

-- Dotee beings




>
>yeah, but however you read it (5th jan or 1st may) this date has long
>passed...
>Lars
>
>
> > the little sidebar/contact button says its being
> > launched 5.1.04
> >
> > v'
> >
> > --- graham miller <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> wrote:
> > > all i get is the front page... how does one get in?
> > >
> > > precursor wrote:
> > >
> > > > on 6/17/04 12:19 PM, graham miller at
> > > xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx wrote:
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From 
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2004 09:36:51 -0400
From: Eloy Anzola <xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: RE: [microsound] current.array t-shirts by Steve Roden,Janek Schaefer
 and John Hudak
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The mother of t-shirts sites, which happens to
be doing a contest:

http://www.threadless.com/

I like:
http://www.threadless.com/product/48.html
http://www.threadless.com/product/114.html
http://www.threadless.com/product/109.html
http://www.threadless.com/product/100.html

etc, etc...
cheers,

Eloy
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> Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2004 8:53 PM
> To: microsound
> Subject: Re: [microsound] current.array t-shirts by Steve 
> Roden,Janek Schaefer and John Hudak
> 
> 
> yeah, but however you read it (5th jan or 1st may) this date has long
> passed...
> Lars
> www.waldchengarten.dk
> www.noisejihad.dk
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> > launched 5.1.04
> >
> > v'
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From 
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2004 12:26:48 -0400
From: graham miller <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx>
Subject: force inc?
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what happened to the website? the company?






From 
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2004 18:40:50 +0200
From: The Expert <xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [microsound] force inc?
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Force Inc / Mille Plateaux / Ritornell etc. seems to have gone down the 
drain due to the EFA crash (big German "Indie" distributor)


> what happened to the website? the company?
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From 
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2004 18:59:24 +0200
From: xxxxxxxxxxxx@x-xxxxxx.xx (Christopher Kreiss)
Subject: Re: [microsound] force inc?
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Didn't Achim Szepanski himself announce the forthcoming release of "Clicks
'n' Cuts 4" and some stuff by Thomas Kner, some weeks ago on this list?

As I heard, the situation of the company became more and more chaotic,
recently...



> > what happened to the website? the company?






From 
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2004 10:24:04 -0700 (PDT)
From: eight fm <xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [microsound] force inc?
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things have changed....but they will be resurfacing
soon.....clicks and cuts 4 among other things should
be out round august....I think achim posted some
upcoming releases here a while back....



--- The Expert <xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> Force Inc / Mille Plateaux / Ritornell etc. seems to
> have gone down the 
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Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2004 18:04:45 -0400 (EDT)
From: Neil Wiernik <xxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx>
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force inc = efa bancruptcy earlier this year...



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i think i might have contracted 'bancruptcy' while abroad. no worries
though - i've notified the CDC. i'll be placed in isolation with nothing
but a circuit bent speak and spell to nurse me back to health.

g.

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From 
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2004 08:26:52 +0200
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I just received some new products from the Mille Plateaux galaxy, with 
"Nuuk" by Thomas Kner, as a CD+DVD, and Bizz Circuits play Intifada 
Offspring.

It seems though that MP switch from EFA to Neuton for distro... Let's 
wait and see.

JF





From 
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2004 02:46:54 -0400
From: andrew jones <xxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx>
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yeah that and what is it MDM or MGM seem to be
the new german distros.

-
a


On Friday, June 18, 2004, at 02:26 AM, Micard wrote:

> I just received some new products from the Mille Plateaux galaxy, with 
> "Nuuk" by Thomas Kner, as a CD+DVD, and Bizz Circuits play Intifada 
> Offspring.
>
> It seems though that MP switch from EFA to Neuton for distro... Let's 
> wait and see.
>
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From 
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2004 09:10:10 +0200 (CEST)
From: Daniel Brozek <xxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xx>
Subject: Re: [microsound] force inc?
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On Fri, 18 Jun 2004, Micard wrote:

> I just received some new products from the Mille Plateaux galaxy, with 
> "Nuuk" by Thomas Kner, as a CD+DVD, and Bizz Circuits play Intifada 
> Offspring.

Are these releases available to buy somewhere on-line?

daniel





From 
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2004 10:51:49 +0200
From: Marco Messina <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx>
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mdm.de  http://www.mutualism.de/

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> yeah that and what is it MDM or MGM seem to be
> the new german distros.
> 
> -
> a
> 
> 
> On Friday, June 18, 2004, at 02:26 AM, Micard wrote:
> 
>> I just received some new products from the Mille Plateaux galaxy, with
>> "Nuuk" by Thomas Kner, as a CD+DVD, and Bizz Circuits play Intifada
>> Offspring.
>> 
>> It seems though that MP switch from EFA to Neuton for distro... Let's
>> wait and see.
>> 
>> JF
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From 
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2004 11:22:28 +0200
From: Kassen <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxxx.xx>
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JF;

> I just received some new products from the Mille Plateaux galaxy, with
> "Nuuk" by Thomas Kner, as a CD+DVD, and Bizz Circuits play Intifada
> Offspring.

Wow! dvd material by kner? that sounds quite interesting. Can I ask whats
on the dvd? Is Nuuk a straight rerelease of the Nuuk cd that was in the
"Driftworks" box that was released by Bigcat in 97 or are there some
extras?

While Im at it; does anybody know wether there are some video recordings of
Kners experiments with Jrgen Reble where they treated film loops with
chemicals? I own the "Kaamos" cd but it seems incomplete without the images.

Yours,
Kas.







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Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2004 08:04:09 -0400 (EDT)
From: Neil Wiernik <xxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx>
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I was woundering is MDM the result of efa or was it set up for monolake
and imbalance records alone? Im a bit confused by it all...
I was under the impression that kompakt took over most of what efa left
behind but I really dont know...



On Fri, 18 Jun 2004, andrew jones wrote:

> yeah that and what is it MDM or MGM seem to be
> the new german distros.
>
> -
> a
>
>
> On Friday, June 18, 2004, at 02:26 AM, Micard wrote:
>
> > I just received some new products from the Mille Plateaux galaxy, with
> > "Nuuk" by Thomas Kner, as a CD+DVD, and Bizz Circuits play Intifada
> > Offspring.
> >
> > It seems though that MP switch from EFA to Neuton for distro... Let's
> > wait and see.
> >
> > JF
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From 
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2004 14:14:38 +0200
From: Marco Messina <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx>
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our label, mousikelab, is going to be distribuited by mdm.....


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> 
> I was woundering is MDM the result of efa or was it set up for monolake
> and imbalance records alone? Im a bit confused by it all...
> I was under the impression that kompakt took over most of what efa left
> behind but I really dont know...
> 
> 
> 
> On Fri, 18 Jun 2004, andrew jones wrote:
> 
>> yeah that and what is it MDM or MGM seem to be
>> the new german distros.
>> 
>> -
>> a
>> 
>> 
>> On Friday, June 18, 2004, at 02:26 AM, Micard wrote:
>> 
>>> I just received some new products from the Mille Plateaux galaxy, with
>>> "Nuuk" by Thomas Kner, as a CD+DVD, and Bizz Circuits play Intifada
>>> Offspring.
>>> 
>>> It seems though that MP switch from EFA to Neuton for distro... Let's
>>> wait and see.
>>> 
>>> JF
>>> 
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From 
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2004 12:09:14 -0700
From: Bill Jarboe <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
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hi , 

 you were commenting on the limitations(?) of CD audio and i had a few
thoughts. from what i have gathered , most of the problems are in the output
( digital to analogue) conversion . if you have a good converter , almost
everything sounds better. i find some of the 1-bit converters to be
especially good.

 i have two questions for the list at large.

 has anyone listed much to SACD? what are the impressions?

  (that's a two part question actually)

 is there any single bitstream dsp happening?



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Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2004 19:35:54 +0000
From: ian stewart <xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx>
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I haven't heard SACD, but the following comments from Dominique Bassal's 
paper on mastering in electroacoustic music might be of interest (published 
on the CEC webpage, in the original French:
cec.concordia.ca/ftp/La_pratique_du_Mastering.pdf
and in English translation:
cec.concordia.ca/ftp/The_Practice_of_Mastering.pdf):


"[SACD] consists of an extension of the oversampling technique called DSD, 
capable of offering, due to a sampling rate of 2.8224 mHz at 1 bit, a 
frequency response ranging from direct current
to 100 kHz and a dynamic range of 120 dB. This said, the lack of timeliness 
of Super Audio CD is dismaying:

-it is based on a technology completely at odds with LPCM, used in
all digital systems to this day. No current recording system, program,
plug-in, etc can be adapted to it, and the specific sound recording
and treatment tools are very rare and exorbitantly expensive;

- even if largely considered, from the point of view of sound quality, as
equal to or marginally superior to LPCM 24 bit/96 kHz and 24 bit/192
kHz, SACD, like CD-Audio before it- but unlike its high-density
LPCM competitors- is a closed format, offering few possibilities of
integration with eventual improvements;

- unlike DVD-Audio readers, for which a FireWire digital output is
foreseen, offering at least the possibility of a D/A conversion by a
specialized external device, all SACD readers, with one exception,
are equipped only with analog outputs. An aberrant contradiction
with the audiophile vocation of the format;

- and of course, it is out of the question for an SACD reader to read
DVD-A, and vice-versa. As for the possibility of reading an SACD on
a CD-Audio player, it is illusory: for a much higher price than CD, we
get a performance exactly the same, since all thats happening is
that an entirely separate layer is being read from the SACD, at the
Red Book standard! "


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From 
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2004 12:44:47 -0700
From: "j.frede" <xxxxxx@xxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
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funny you should mention SACD, i was just reading about this format on the
where i get my CDs made,,, it sounds really amazing!
anyone that has not heard of this format can read in brief about it here
http://www.cdman.com/store/sacd.html it explains the process and such...

its too bad that you have to have a SACD player to experience the surround
sound aspects,,we can only hope that all future cd players become equipped
with this technology.

i havent heard any work in this format you, but from what i have heard about
it, im sure the next release i do on my label will be in SACD format...

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>
> hi ,
>
>  you were commenting on the limitations(?) of CD audio and i had a few
> thoughts. from what i have gathered , most of the problems are in the
output
> ( digital to analogue) conversion . if you have a good converter , almost
> everything sounds better. i find some of the 1-bit converters to be
> especially good.
>
>  i have two questions for the list at large.
>
>  has anyone listed much to SACD? what are the impressions?
>
>   (that's a two part question actually)
>
>  is there any single bitstream dsp happening?
>
>
>
>             ----
>
>                        bill
>
>
>
>
>
> on 6/13/04 4:37 PM, Kim Cascone at xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx wrote:
>
> > http://www.anandtech.com/audio/showdoc.html?i=2079
> >
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From 
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2004 19:21:53 -0500
From: chris bryan <xx__xx__@xxxxxxx.xxx>
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Hey,
I was looking at the "M-Audio MobilePre USB" that was reviewed in grooves 
magazine.  It looks good, but I have no experience with these things.  Does 
anyone have any recommendations?  I need something for my laptop, that has a 
good in/out on it without spending to much $$$$$.
Thanks,
chris

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From 
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2004 12:27:28 +1200
From: Niklas Werner <xxxxxxxxx@xxx.xx>
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On Fri, 18 Jun 2004 12:21, chris bryan wrote:
> Hey,
> I was looking at the "M-Audio MobilePre USB" that was reviewed in
> grooves magazine.  It looks good, but I have no experience with these
> things.  Does anyone have any recommendations?  I need something for my
> laptop, that has a good in/out on it without spending to much $$$$$.
I run this blue baby quite happily:
http://www.emagic.de/products/hw/A26/index.php?lang=EN

I think it was €350, back when I bought it...  pristine sound, easy 
handling.

AND -- most important -- it runs under Linux O:-)
 
Cheers,

Niklas
--
Computer Music PhD-student
University of Waikato
Hamilton
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From 
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2004 03:12:29 +0200
From: Marco Messina <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx>
Subject: Re: [microsound] usb audio devices???
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Ciao,
I'm using an m-audio 410 (firewire) with my laptop and sounds good for the
price (400€)

marco messina
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http://www.mousikelab.com/
http://www.novenove.it/
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> Hey,
> I was looking at the "M-Audio MobilePre USB" that was reviewed in grooves
> magazine.  It looks good, but I have no experience with these things.  Does
> anyone have any recommendations?  I need something for my laptop, that has a
> good in/out on it without spending to much $$$$$.
> Thanks,
> chris
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From 
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2004 09:48:13 +0200
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hello ut's possible to pay less than 400 $ (in italy cost 415 euro...)
but you can check at these adresses

http://floridamusicco.com/proddetail.asp?prod=Firewire410

http://shop.pcconnection.com

btw ----------> great tool for home recording...

cheers
gianluca


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From 
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2004 03:12:29 +0200
>From: Marco Messina <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx>
>To: "microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
>Subject: Re: [microsound] usb audio devices???
>
>
>Ciao,
>I'm using an m-audio 410 (firewire) with my laptop and sounds good for
the
>price (400)
>
>marco messina
>[] [] [] [] [] []
>http://www.mousikelab.com/
>http://www.novenove.it/
>http://www.folderstudio.com/
>[] [] [] [] [] []
>
>
>> Hey,
>> I was looking at the "M-Audio MobilePre USB" that was reviewed in grooves
>> magazine.  It looks good, but I have no experience with these things.

>Does
>> anyone have any recommendations?  I need something for my laptop, that
>has a
>> good in/out on it without spending to much $$$$$.
>> Thanks,
>> chris
>>
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From 
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2004 10:59:13 +0200
From: The Expert <xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [microsound] usb audio devices???
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German dealer THOMANN (http://www.thomann.de) is offering an  
interesting bundle incl. MAYA USB (4 in, 4 out, 16 Bit), CUBASE SE and  
MIDIMAN OXYGEN keyboard (incl. REASON adapted), crossplatform  
(MAC/WIN), at the total price of 222 Euro plus shipping.


> Hey,
> I was looking at the "M-Audio MobilePre USB" that was reviewed in  
> grooves magazine.  It looks good, but I have no experience with these  
> things.  Does anyone have any recommendations?  I need something for  
> my laptop, that has a good in/out on it without spending to much  
> $$$$$.
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From 
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2004 21:29:26 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jorge Blank <xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: re: prepared piano
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the best prepared piano playing/music I ever heard was
Aurie Hsu from San Francisco.  I dont even know if she
still lives here or has any music online or anything,
but if you ever get a chance to hear her it is
amazing.  she also made alot of music on a large
modular moog.  once she gave me a cd without any
explanations and for a long time I thought the piano
stuff was moog stuff

pretty cool

jorge


                
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Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2004 02:50:25 -0400 (EDT)
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Check out the cool t-shirts and bags at
www.abflugrec.com. More stuff coming up in the next
couple of days (incl. a Lake Lustre design t-shirt for
guys, too).

Also at Abflug shop, check out our latest CD releases
or buy MP3s online. Get yourself some summer clothing
and new music at one go!


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Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2004 02:53:55 -0400 (EDT)
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Also at Abflug shop, check out our latest CD releases
or buy MP3s online. A grrreat chance to get yourself
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From 
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2004 07:40:50 -0400
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hello list,

xstream-radio-webcast comes back with a new website and a new
topten playlist featuring the works of the following artists:


-> Fabriquedecouleurs     "Hajime"          (Dorodine)
   (file under: harsh lyrical frequencies)

-> Pyo                    "Go To Sleep"     (Centibel)
   (file under: micro-acousmatic)

-> Yuko Nexus6            "Berlin 1936"     (Sonore)
   (file under: tape-collage)

-> Hypo                   "Instrumental"    (Active Suspension)
   (file under: advanced electro-pop)

-> M__                    "The Wedding"     (Enough Records)
   (file under: digital ambient soundscape)


-> Phrygia                "Mandarin Peel"   (self-released)
   (file under: melodic downtempo)

-> .Dos                   "(5)"             (Synthetic Waste)
   (file under: minimal click-techno)

-> Satanicpornocultshop   "Osui Nomasare"   (Sonore)
   (file under: deconstructed hip-hop)

-> Es                     "Kukat Ovat..."   (Flying Swimming)
   (file under: turntablism lullaby)

-> Plimplim               "A_07"            (N-Rec)
   (file under: ambient dsp)


thanks for your attention.

[http://xstreamradio.free.fr]
[Now playing: Experimental and Electronic music]





From 
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2004 13:59:06 +0200
From: Elke Moltrecht <xxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx>
Subject: ULTRA RED//GONE WEST//LEWIS GILBERT HAUSSWOLFF// U.A.
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SPRING INNOVATIONS 
Konzerte + Performances + Filme
Concerts + performances + film
27.Mai - 22. Juni 2004


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Programm /program 

Zusatzveranstaltung: 18.06., 20.30 Uhr Klub

transmediale.salon in Kooperation mit club transmediale
Ultra-Red meets Kanak Attak - work in progress

[THE TRANSISTORS TOUR] - Sound Art Activism and Migrant Resistance

Soundperformances und Prsentationen von:

1. MANUELA BOJADZIJEV (Kanak Attak) "Trans-It! Migrations"
2. ELLIOT PERKINS (fka Phonem) "Eurodac Express"
3. DONT RHINE (Ultra-red) "Jack Tactic"

19.06., 20.00 
GONE WEST 
Lou Simard, Marie-France Goulet, Ingo Ahmels (Konzeption), Lou Simard (Performance) 

Mit freundlicher Untersttzung der Botschaft von Kanada Berlin. 

21. 06. + 22.06., jeweils  20.00 
gmb-H (KAOSS v KAOSS) 
Deutschlandpremiere 
Graham Lewis (Wire)(GB), Bruce Gilbert (Wire)(GB), Carl Michael von Hausswolff (S), Rikard Sporrong (Elektronik, Video) (S) 

Gmb-H wird untersttzt durch den Schwedischen Audio/Visual-Techniker Rikard Sporrong. 

Eintritt 
19./21./22.6.             11/8 Euro 
tansmediale.salon          5 Euro 

Programm/program: Elke Moltrecht 

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From 
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2004 15:09:30 +0300 (EEST)
From: Karri Ojanen <xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [microsound] EFA et.c (was: force inc?)
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Hausmusik also picked up a couple of labels formerly distributed by EFA.
At least Disko B.

-
Karri O.


> I was woundering is MDM the result of efa or was it set up for monolake
> and imbalance records alone? Im a bit confused by it all...
> I was under the impression that kompakt took over most of what efa left
> behind but I really dont know...
>
>
>
> On Fri, 18 Jun 2004, andrew jones wrote:
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>> yeah that and what is it MDM or MGM seem to be
>> the new german distros.
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>> a
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>> On Friday, June 18, 2004, at 02:26 AM, Micard wrote:
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>> > I just received some new products from the Mille Plateaux galaxy, with
>> > "Nuuk" by Thomas Kner, as a CD+DVD, and Bizz Circuits play Intifada
>> > Offspring.
>> >
>> > It seems though that MP switch from EFA to Neuton for distro... Let's
>> > wait and see.
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From 
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2004 08:24:29 -0500
From: "s. arden hill" <x_xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Arctic Rangers
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Hello Everyone..

I have a copy of Pan Sonic's Rare boxset Artic Rangers "Self-Assembly 
Soundscape Set" that I am looking to sell. The condition is really good and 
all the pieces and decals are still in tack. Also it is signed by the boys.

I originally paid 90 Dem for it and it is very wanted. I am looking for 
American Dollars.

Make me an offer.
thanks
Arden

p.s., I also have 12k1008 still for sale.




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From 
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2004 13:26:30 +0000
From: scott allison <xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Koner/MP/Ritonel?
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That is great news to hear that a new koner release is out. Regarding the 
visual work of koner, I remember seeing a project on his web site that 
involved footage taken from security cameras of snow covered roads, seemed 
wonderful, maybe that will make it's way to DVD?.

Was it not so that MP was/is slated to release a book concerning sound art? 
Are they going to scrap this plan???

Also does anyone know if Ritonel will continue to exist?

Thanks
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From 
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2004 12:46:36 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
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Subject: additive synth question
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has anyone used the virsyn cube additive softsynth?  any thoughts/opinions regarding it or another additive softsynth would be greatly appreciated.

sean





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Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2004 09:54:44 -0700
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At 12:46 PM -0400 6/18/04, sean donovan wrote:
>has anyone used the virsyn cube additive softsynth?  any 
>thoughts/opinions regarding it or another additive softsynth would 
>be greatly appreciated.

See my review at audioMIDI.com:

http://www.audiomidi.com/aboutus/reviews/zvonar_cube.cfm
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From 
Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2004 22:10:19 +0300
From: visa <xxxx.xxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx>
Subject: Re: [microsound] additive synth question
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www.kvr-vst.com is a great place to get information on issues like this.
Search the forums & read users' reviews.

In addition to Virsyn Cube, I'd suggest investigating into Whitenoise
Additive, Camel Audio Cameleon 5000 and DiscoDSP Vertigo.


Visa


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> has anyone used the virsyn cube additive softsynth?  any thoughts/opinions
regarding it or another additive softsynth would be greatly appreciated.
>
> sean
>






From 
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2004 15:57:52 -0400 (EDT)
From: Neil Wiernik <xxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: phoniq hosts <FM> CD launch July 2 2004
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PRESS RELEASE
----------------------------------------------------
friday july 2 2004

phoniq hosts a launch for the ckut benefit cd
< modular systems FM >

featuring :

pheek - live - www.epsilonlab.com
naw - live - www.noisefactoryrecords.com
zen - live - ms zaandam

khanfucius - dj - panospria.com
cyan - dj - modular systems ckut fm

jose garcia - visuals - fifteen pounds

all happening at casa del popolo, 4873 st-laurent montreal, canada
for the small amount of
$5.00
$10.00 including cd
all proceeds go to ckut

for more info visit

www.phoniq.net

On July 2nd 2004, the phoniq collective hosts the launch of the <modular
systems FM> compilation. <FM> is a benefit cd for ckut-fm, featuring 7
tracks donated by montreal electronic music artists. All proceeds from the
sales of this cd goes towards the operating budget for the radio station.

the event will showcase 3 of the <FM> artists:

PHEEK, whose second release on epsilonlab records, "les autres
promeneurs", broadens his journey in music making into innovative yet
dance friendly realms.

NAW, noise factory recording artist and phoniq resident, will immerse you
in experimental and deep dub influnced techno and house.

ZEN, recently embarked from the MS Zaandam, melds together unexpected
elements of dub, experimental sounds and electronica.

phoniq residents khanfucius and cyan will open and close the night with
dj sets, and local projection artist jose garcia will construct a visual
environment via various projection sources.

BIOS/INFO

phoniq
------
www.phoniq.net

phoniq is a collective of individuals dedicated to promoting bleeding edge
electronic art in interesting variable environments, with an emphasis on
exposing aural and visual talent that has not yet been exposed to the
electronic arts communities of montreal. We aim to showcase upstart music
producers, djs, record labels and emerging visual artists all working in
electronic realms. Our foremost goal is to showcase off the wall and raw
genres of music and visual electronic arts- not just those that are
currently "en vogue" or will be shortly.

The concept for phoniq came together through the chance meeting of 2
active members of the montreal/canadian electronic music and digital arts
community: ckut-fm dj/host cyan and dub glitch techno producer naw. phoniq
has grown out of the combined histories of these 2 individuals. naw brings
the clonk legacy that he created 6 years ago in toronto, which hosted such
artists as: monolake, kit clayton and sutekh. cyan brings her ongoing
involvement in community radio (modular systems), event coordinating and
dj talents.

ckut 90.3 fm
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www.ckut.ca
CKUT 90.3 FM McGill Radio Inc. is a non-profit campus community radio
station that provides alternative music, news and spoken word programming
to the city of Montreal and surrounding areas. We broadcast 24 hours a
day, every day. Hear us at 90.3 MHz on your FM dial, or 91.7 by cable, or
tune in by Real Audio over the Internet.

modular systems is an electronic music magazine show featuring new music
and interviews with local and international artists. tune in every second
Tuesday at 3pm.

pheek
-----
www.pheek.com
epsilonlab, thinner

Born in 1972, Jean-Patrice Rmillard was immediately attracted to music.
His parents recall the day when he discovered how to use a turntable and
from there on out, he would listen to old rock records endlessly. Perhaps
the most important discovery for JP was when his babysitter gave him a
Bee-Gees record for his birthday and he was introduced to dance music.
JP became interested in acid house in the late 80s and raves in early 90s,
inspiring him to DJ his own radio shows in Sherbrooke, Qubec. From his
college years to university, he played techno, house and anything exciting
to people whose ears werent as close to the ground.

Upon moving to Montreal in 1997 to study computer science, JP met Mateo
Murphy and found they shared similar musical interests. After performing a
show with Gez Varley, Mateo and JP decided to work on a live concept of
their own, based on improvising beats on the fly and mixing in other
synthesized sonic textures. It was at this point that JP adopted the name
of Pheek after a Richie Hawtin/Plastikman performance at Medialounge, a
show that would forever change his perspective on music.
After further honing their live show together, Pheek and Mateo opened for
Chain Reaction at the FCMM in 1999. They were spotted by Hautec and
offered to release a 12 inch marking a turning point in their fledgling
careers.

The few years that followed saw proposed releases on Hybrid Structure and
collaborations with Mitchell Akiyama on various projects a creative period
that proved a catalyst for JPs later success.
The next pivotal point in Pheeks career was meeting Eloi Brunelle and
subsequently being invited to join to the Epsilonlab media collective. JP
played with them since the very first night of their existence and for
almost every show to follow. His first release for Epsilonlab, 2002s
Paysages Matriciels, was a critical success and was nominated for Quebecs
prestigious ADISQ music awards.
Later that year, Pheek and Eloi toured Europe together, playing shows in
Paris, Lyon, Switzerland, Cologne and London. This trip opened up new
possibilities for the duo and they completed a second European tour the
following year.

Recently, JP teamed up with Thinner, one of the more recognized MP3
labels. As well as contributing tracks to Thinners compilations and
releasing Tabisuru Kokoro in late 2003, he has coordinated many of their
live events, including a Thinner vs. Epsilonlab showcase.
As a veteran of the Epsilonlab team, Pheek has released his second album
with the label. This will mark the beginning of a new era in the Montreal
based label as they will launch a mp3 department.

naw
---
www.noisefactoryrecords.com
aka Neil Wiernik (b.1967)

Montreal native Neil Wiernik began his explorations in electronic music
making as early as 1988. Known to push the boundaries of his musical form
from designing new or manipulating existing sound making devices and
software to creative uses of production environments and sound sources,
naws music is a blend of sound manipulation/design, experimental musics
and dub-tech rhythms, which on the surface sound quite simple, but
incorporate a number of touches that steer this artist away from being
simply another minimal techno or experimental laptop artist. He combines
post-house, dubby minimal techno, microsound and thick ambience, to create
his own version of deep techno, house and other electronic laptop orineted
musics. Neil has released music on various national and international
record labels, including releases on Noise Factory, Worthy, Complot,
Piehead, A/S Systems, Wabi and Future Rhetoric. As naw, Neil has performed
extensively along side a variety of national and international artists
both in and outside of Canada. August 2004 naw will release his follow up
noise factory records full length record called: "green nights orange
days", this record finds Neil at his deepest and dubbiest yet, the release
of this record will co inside with a series of North American and European
tour dates through out the late summer and fall of 2004.

zen
---
ms zaandam

zen nakamura currently finished a contract aboard a cruise boat as a jazz
drummer.  While he played all styles of music from the mambo, the cha-cha,
swing and other typical ballroom and lounge music, he was composing varied
styles of electronic music.  Though a dub-reggae/drum'nbass head at heart,
his studies in electroacoustics and love of most types of music influenced
his infusion of genres all across the board.

jose garcia
-----------
fifteen pounds

Life on the train, or walking in the park or watching the news.....Lying in the
grass...that sort of stuff, vultures feeding too. Geronimo's dusty desert brawl
in panavision then transfered to super 8.  the walls flap, figures sail down a
hall with brief cases. It all started in front of the Chateau Laurier, Ottawa.
a few years later and something keeps me looking around the corner.


khanfucius / scant intone
--------------------------
Constantine Katsiris (b. 1980 - Saskatoon, Canada)

Constantine has been active in exploring the electronic arts since the
early 1990s.
He became involved in the BBS scene at a young age, tracking music
modules and drawing ascii art. By 1996 he chose the alias Khanfucius and
began as a DJ, playing an assortment of strange, abstract and ambient
music at local clubs, raves and other events in the prairies.
His active involvement in the scene spawned many projects, including the
event production company Uninhibited Sound System with his fellow DJs and
the artistic collective Panospria.
Musical side projects around this time included playing laptop
and synths in the improv electronic band Mandelbrot Set and co-producing
an album as Break Fluid with Sasafras of the hip hop group Isosceles. His
first solo album as Khanfucius, The Phuzzillogikal Basement Tapes 96-98,
was compiled and released independently prior to moving to Dublin, Ireland
in 1999. This release caught the attention of radio DJ Keith Downey who
invited him to co-host

his show on Kiss FM called Psychonavigation. Keith would go on to start
Psychonavigation Records and release music by Constantine and his Canadian
associates. Upon his return to Canada, he took up residence in Ontario and
studied in the fields of audio and multimedia. Since 2001, his focus has
been fixed on his experimental music and sound-art project as Scant
Intone. Currently living in Montreal, he is working on upcoming solo and
collaborative works as well as coordinating projects for both Panospria
and Psychonavigation Records.

cyan
----
www.traktion.com
(aka Corina MacDonald)

Montreal based DJ, radio host and budding techno producer cyan was born
and raised in the western provinces of Canada. In 1994 while living in
Scotland she she was introduced to the dj culture associated with
electronic dance music and was inspired to begin exploring the art of
djing. When she returned to Canada, she decided that Montreal would be an
ideal city  to set her roots down and start exploring this approach to
music. DJ culture was not a foreign concept to her and it was a logical
extension of her ongoing work in community radio, which began in 1990 in
Calgary and continued in Montreal from 1996 on. She now co-hosts CKUT FM^s
Modular Systems: an electronic music magazine program. Her sound can best
be described as layered raw & funky, dense & deep techno rhythms,
influenced by the techno and house sounds of Detroit. cyan can be found
regularly playing at various venues in and around Montreal, and has played
alongside such artists as naw, noah pred, grannyark and lynne t. She has
recently released her 6th independently produced DJ mix called The Gravity
Protocol, which has been received in a very positive light by reviewers
and techno fans alike.
She is hard at work in the studio concocting her own variation
on electronic dance music. cyan is involved in the phoniq collective,
where she co-curates and organizes independent electronic music events
featuring local producers and visual artists, and can be seen regularly
at these events working the wheels of steel.






From 
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2004 23:04:02 +0200
From: Murat Gunes <xxxxxx@xxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [microsound] force inc? // Koner/MP/Ritonel?
To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
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Here's the mail Szepanski had sent to the list in the midst of the first  
wave of discussion/rumors about the state of Force Inc.

On Wed, 17 Mar 2004 14:16:37 +0100, Achim Szepanski <xx@xxxxx-xxx.xxx>  
wrote:

> hi
>
> new releases in may/ june
>
> BIZZ CIRCUITS-play-INTIFADA-OFFSPRING
>
> CD + DVD + DLP
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------
>
>
> THOMAS KNER            NUUK
>
> CD + DVD
>
> -------------------------------------------------
>
>
> THOMAS KNER                  BANLIEUE DU VIDE
>
> CD + DVD
>
> ----------------------------------------------------
>
> CLICKS & CUTS 4
>
> CD& DLP
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> soon
>
>
> SOUNDCULTURES
>
> book (english translation)



m.





From 
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2004 16:12:43 -0400
From: john hudak <xxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: rocks role | hudak remixes | download
To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx
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hello folks!

two remixes by john hudak,

http://homepage.mac.com/johnhudak/FileSharing1.html

from Rock's Remix, 15 June 2004, 6-8pm, a program with participating 
artists of Rock's Role (After Ryoanji) performing their own re-mixes 
of this unique sound exhibition.  The show closes 26 June 2004:

http://www.artingeneral.org/aig/exhibitions/main_gallery.html

best future,
john
-- 
john hudak
xxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx
http://www.johnhudak.net

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From 
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2004 22:30:52 -0400
From: vze26m98 <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [test] ignore, please
To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
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ignore me.





From 
Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2004 18:26:10 +0000
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Hi!

SamForce first album, La Socit de l'Esprit is free download on 
http://www.angstprod.com

- 13 electro expriment tracks.
- 2 formats available : Ogg (80 Mo) and CD Audio image (550 Mo).

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From 
Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2004 18:37:31 +0000
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Hi !

SamForce first album, La Socit de l'Esprit is free download on 
http://www.angstprod.com

- 13 electro expriment tracks.
- 2 formats available : Ogg (80 Mo) and CD Audio image (550 Mo).

http://www.angstprod.com/Label SamForce - La Socit de l'Esprit

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From 
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 02:00:53 +0200
From: derek holzer <xxxxx@x-x.xxx>
Subject: umatic.nl weblabel release + news
To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
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UMATIC.NL UPDATE ------ June 21 2004

http://www.umatic.nl/

----------------------------------------------

Weblabel Release
----UMA01_MOIRA [http://umatic.nl/label.html]

----------------------------------------------

  WEBLABEL RELEASE: UMA01_MOIRA

----Live-recordings from ImprovSession [March 5 2004, Moira, NL]
----Featuring: 87Central [US/NL], Bas van Koolwijk [NL],
----Christian Toonk [NL] & Yannick Dauby [FR]

The first release from the umatic label are two live performances of
improvised music originated from umatics first event in march 2004. The
event consisted of several audio-visual performances based on fresh
collaborations between umatic members and invited artists.

http://umatic.nl/label.html

----------------------------------------------

Other Current Umatic Activities


[1] Impakt Event [w/ Lucky Kitchen a.o.]
----BAK, Utrecht, NL - 18 June - 4 July

[2] Max/MSP/Jitter Video Workshop
----Umatic studio, Utrecht, NL - 3 - 4 July

[3] Garage Festival
----Strahlsund, DE - 23 July - 12 Aug
----Feedback Performance: 5 August

----------------------------------------------

[1] IMPAKT EVENT INSTALLATION + PERFORMANCE

----18 June - 4 July, 2004
----BAK, basis voor actuele kunst, Lange Nieuwstraat 4, Utrecht, NL

Umatic were invited by the Impakt Festival to collaborate with Aeron &
Alejandra/Lucky Kitchen for an exhibition in the BAK Gallery in Utrecht
on the theme of urbanism. An installation and a performance were the result.

----Performance "Psychonavigators"----
Working with field recordings, instrumental fragments and found maps,
Derek Holzer, Christian Toonk and Bas van Koolwijk created a lush
audiovisual environment for the opening of the exhibition,
18 June 2004. Samples from this performance can be heard here:

http://umatic.nl/mp3/umatic-psychonavigators.mp3 [23min42sec, 27.9Mb]

----Installation "Urban[ism]"----
As people travel through space, points between destination are often
neglected. In their multi-channel audio and video installation, Umatic
members Ryan Parteka, Bas van Koolwijk and Christian Toonk have
transferred this in-between volume of the urban space to the gallery
space. Two projectors and a four channel sound system capture and
represent urban space for one to consider what lies in-between.

http://www.impakt.nl/

----------------------------------------------

[2] MAX/MSP/JITTER VIDEO WORKSHOP - BAS VAN KOOLWIJK AND RYAN PARTEKA

----3 - 4 July, 2004
----Umatic studio, Utrecht, NL
----Instructors: Bas van Koolwijk, Ryan Parteka

'An introduction to real time video applications with Max/MSP/Jitter'
Bring your own laptop w/ Mac OS 9/X or Windows XP.
Contact: xxx@xxxxxx.xx for more details.
Fee:  65

----------------------------------------------

[3] GARAGE FESTIVAL

----23 July - 12 August, 2004
----Feedback Performances 5 August, 2004
----Strahlsund, DE

Umatic has been invited to take part in the Garage Festival 2004 'White
box - Black Cube'. On the 5th of August, Umatic artists Christian Toonk
and Bas van Koolwijk will give live performances based on acoustic and
electronic feedback systems. Also during the Garage Festival, Derek
Holzer and Sara Kolster will work on the two works in progress,
Soundscape_FM [w/ Yannick Dauby] and PANDev [w/ support from STEIM],
which will be presented in the beginning of August.

http://www.garage-g.de/
http://www.umatic.nl/projects.html

----------------------------------------------

Umatic.nl are:

Bas van Koolwijk
Christian Toonk
Derek Holzer
Ryan Parteka
Sara Kolster

http://www.umatic.nl/


-- 
derek holzer ::: http://www.umatic.nl
---Oblique Strategy # 181:
"What would your closest friend do?"






From 
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 02:04:55 +0200
From: derek holzer <xxxxx@x-x.xxx>
Subject: umatic.nl weblabel release + news .........[apologies if duplicate!]
To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@x-x.xxx>
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT

UMATIC.NL UPDATE ------ June 21 2004

http://www.umatic.nl/

----------------------------------------------

Weblabel Release
----UMA01_MOIRA [http://umatic.nl/label.html]

----------------------------------------------

  WEBLABEL RELEASE: UMA01_MOIRA

----Live-recordings from ImprovSession [March 5 2004, Moira, NL]
----Featuring: 87Central [US/NL], Bas van Koolwijk [NL],
----Christian Toonk [NL] & Yannick Dauby [FR]

The first release from the umatic label are two live performances of
improvised music originated from umatics first event in march 2004. The
event consisted of several audio-visual performances based on fresh
collaborations between umatic members and invited artists.

http://umatic.nl/label.html

----------------------------------------------

Other Current Umatic Activities


[1] Impakt Event [w/ Lucky Kitchen a.o.]
----BAK, Utrecht, NL - 18 June - 4 July

[2] Max/MSP/Jitter Video Workshop
----Umatic studio, Utrecht, NL - 3 - 4 July

[3] Garage Festival
----Strahlsund, DE - 23 July - 12 Aug
----Feedback Performance: 5 August

----------------------------------------------

[1] IMPAKT EVENT INSTALLATION + PERFORMANCE

----18 June - 4 July, 2004
----BAK, basis voor actuele kunst, Lange Nieuwstraat 4, Utrecht, NL

Umatic were invited by the Impakt Festival to collaborate with Aeron &
Alejandra/Lucky Kitchen for an exhibition in the BAK Gallery in Utrecht
on the theme of urbanism. An installation and a performance were the result.

----Performance "Psychonavigators"----
Working with field recordings, instrumental fragments and found maps,
Derek Holzer, Christian Toonk and Bas van Koolwijk created a lush
audiovisual environment for the opening of the exhibition,
18 June 2004. Samples from this performance can be heard here:

http://umatic.nl/mp3/umatic-psychonavigators.mp3 [23min42sec, 27.9Mb]

----Installation "Urban[ism]"----
As people travel through space, points between destination are often
neglected. In their multi-channel audio and video installation, Umatic
members Ryan Parteka, Bas van Koolwijk and Christian Toonk have
transferred this in-between volume of the urban space to the gallery
space. Two projectors and a four channel sound system capture and
represent urban space for one to consider what lies in-between.

http://www.impakt.nl/

----------------------------------------------

[2] MAX/MSP/JITTER VIDEO WORKSHOP - BAS VAN KOOLWIJK AND RYAN PARTEKA

----3 - 4 July, 2004
----Umatic studio, Utrecht, NL
----Instructors: Bas van Koolwijk, Ryan Parteka

'An introduction to real time video applications with Max/MSP/Jitter'
Bring your own laptop w/ Mac OS 9/X or Windows XP.
Contact: xxx@xxxxxx.xx for more details.
Fee:  65

----------------------------------------------

[3] GARAGE FESTIVAL

----23 July - 12 August, 2004
----Feedback Performances 5 August, 2004
----Strahlsund, DE

Umatic has been invited to take part in the Garage Festival 2004 'White
box - Black Cube'. On the 5th of August, Umatic artists Christian Toonk
and Bas van Koolwijk will give live performances based on acoustic and
electronic feedback systems. Also during the Garage Festival, Derek
Holzer and Sara Kolster will work on the two works in progress,
Soundscape_FM [w/ Yannick Dauby] and PANDev [w/ support from STEIM],
which will be presented in the beginning of August.

http://www.garage-g.de/
http://www.umatic.nl/projects.html

----------------------------------------------

Umatic.nl are:

Bas van Koolwijk
Christian Toonk
Derek Holzer
Ryan Parteka
Sara Kolster

http://www.umatic.nl/


-- 
derek holzer ::: http://www.umatic.nl
---Oblique Strategy # 181:
"What would your closest friend do?"








From 
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 05:38:28 -0500
From: john kannenberg <xxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: New release at AUX-IN : john kannenberg
To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx, xxxxxxxxx-xxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx
Message-id: <p06002000bcfc68d20af9@[209.86.113.221]>
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Stasisfield announces the latest addition to our live performance 
sublabel AUX-IN:

[ http://www.stasisfield.com/aux-in/ ]

------------------------------------------
SFA-005:

Greatest Hits Live:
Live on the Streets of Neon Tour / The Tank, NYC / July 17, 1983
john kannenberg
------------------------------------------

Stasisfield founder john kannenberg digs deep into the vaults to 
present this collection of his so-called "greatest hits", featuring 
live interpretations of tracks from three recent releases on the 
Stasisfield, Topscore and Retinascan labels. This set of solo laptop 
electronics with manipulated shortwave signals was performed at The 
Tank in New York City's Hell's Kitchen during the Placard Festival 
2003 NYC edition.

Enjoy the music, as well as the latest in an increasingly absurd 
series of live album packaging, at:

[ http://www.stasisfield.com/aux-in/sfa-005.html ]

------------------------------------------
Also, check out new additions and the 2-for-1 sale in the Stasisfield 
shop - now until July 15:

[ http://www.stasisfield.com/cds/ ]
------------------------------------------

As always, thanks for listening.

>>

john kannenberg

[ http://www.stasisfield.com ]

[ http://www.whistlingpariah.com ]

--

OUT NOW.

--

on Grain of Sound > "indeterminate topography" : 6 new digital image 
compositions
in the premiere issue of Sonic Scope Quarterly, a visual arts magazine

[ http://www.grainofsound.com/gos_v3/news.htm ]

--

on Retinascan > Gelidus : A sonic interpretation of extreme cold in six parts

[ http://www.retinascan.de/compactdiscs/fcd35.htm ]






From 
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 15:35:38 +0200
From: xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx
Subject: [ot] otolab> audiovisual projects 2001-2004
To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Message-id: <BCFCB0CA.533D%xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx>
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otolab
audiovisual projects
edited by Lucrezia Cippitelli

On July 1st, 2004, the Otolab exhibition will open at the MLAC,
Laboratory/Museum for Contemporary Art of the "La Sapienza" University in
Rome, with Lucrezia Cippitelli as curatrix. In the halls of the
Museum/Laboratory, an itinerary which illustrates the A/V projects realized
by Otolab over the period 2001-2004 will be on display.

Interactive exhibits, made up of tools for the production of sounds and
images developed by the Otolab collective and used in the course of its live
performances, will host the Millepiani, P.U.L.P. (shown at Contacteurope
Milan) and Quartetto.swf; the latter was the winner of the Italian Live
Media Contest 2002 as well as Netmage 03.

An immersive space will allow visitors to experience recordings of the
following live media projects: Duetto.swf, (previously shown at Peam in
Pescara, Cartoombria in  Perugia, ImproVisual at the Prague Biennial,
Carthusia in Siena), Polystatic (Netmage 04), Stare Mesto (ImproVisual,
Prague Biennial) and Ten (reelaboration of work presented at the Festival
des arts lectroniques, Bruxelles)

The third section of the exhibition will host the screening of a selection
of multimedia clips, some unreleased and others which were previously shown
at a number of festivals (Videominuto 2003 in Prato, Batofar in  Paris, 2003
Prague Biennial, Moov03 Media Art Festival in New York, Merciless Film
Series in New York). Visitors of this section will also be able to see
Transizionilente, the audiovisual opus developed for Tantratheta: the
installation has been designed for being experienced inside Pathfinder, a
sensory deprivation tank commonly used as a complement to relaxation
techniques.

Finally, the last section will display the most significant graphic exhibits
produced by Otolab.

For the opening night of the exhibition, Otolab will present a live set of
its most recent audiovisual performance Syn3_Africa, which will take place
at 7:30 pm in the MLAC area.

The exhibition is part of MLAC's Laboratory program, and has been partly
financed by Regione Lazio for researching "Application of novel multimedial
technologies in contemporary art", as part of the experimental Stage/Master
courses in Critical Curating and Museum Installation, promoted by the Museum
Director Simonetta Lux and produced by the MLAC curator Domenico Scudero.

Opening July 1st 2004, 7:30 pm
live media performance:
Syn_africa

MLAC, Museo Laboratorio di Arte Contemporanea.
Universit di Roma "La Sapienza"
Piazzale Aldo Moro 5, Roma.
from July 1st to July 31st, 2004
Mon-Fri 10:00 am - 6:30 pm
http://www.luxflux.net/museolab/press.htm
Press: Tatiana Giovannetti

http://www.otolab.net
http://www.otolab.net/tunez/html






From 
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 11:12:19 -0400
From: Mike Hansen <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx>
Subject: CKLN FM's Whynot Jazz playlist  for June 9, 2004
To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
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>
> Dear Artist and Label
>
> Welcome to the radio program Whynot Jazz on Toronto's CKLN FM 88.1. 
> Heard Every Wednesday Morning from 7am-11am est, 1pm thru most of 
> Europe and noon in the UK. Available around the world at:
>
> www.ckln.fm
>
> Here is the playlist from the last Whynot Jazz Program. Please note 
> that radio program, hosted by Mike Hansen, takes an outside 
> examination of new improvised and jazz musics. Whynotjazz is one of 
> the very few voices for progessive new music heard in Toronto or 
> around the world.
>
> Why Not?
> 2004/06/09
>
>
> Artist
> Song Title
> Album Title
> Label
>
>
>
> Steve Lacy
> solo performance
> Guelph Jazz festival
> roughidea
>
>
>
> Atomic/School Days
> Dogdays
> Nuclear Assembly Hall
> Okka Disc
>
>
>
> Trio Derome/Guibeault/Tanguay
> Verone
> 10 compostions de Jean Derome
> Ambience Magnestiques
>
>
>
> Steve Dalchinsky/Frederico Ughi
> We Play Just LikeDominos
> I Thought It Was The End ...
> 577 Records
>
>
>
> Hasp
> Gossip and Rumour
> Mix Your Languages
> Ramboy
>
>
>
> Steve Lacy
> Ducks
> Trio Live
> New Tone
>
>
>
> Arnt Jurgensen/Guy Le Blanc
> Slide
> live at New Works Studio
> independent
>
>
>
> Ernesto Rodrigues
> E UR
> Cesura
> Creative Sources
>
>
>
> Ig Henneman String Quartet
> Vivo Son
> Piazza Pia
> Wig
>
>
>
> Wolfgang Mitterer
> Radio Fractual/Beat Music pt 3
> Radio Fractual/Beat Music
> Hat hut
>
>
>
> Mike Hansen
> Waltz For Debbie(solo)
> The Bill Evans Project
> independent
>
>
>
> Jason Kuhn
> Miramar part 2
> Miramar
> Sirrecords
>
>
>
> Frode Gjerstad/Lasse Marhaug
> Improvisation no.5
> Tou
> FMR Records
>
>
>
> Jeck/Lang/Lacy
> dw 1.2 remix 7.4
> Trio 3 New Jazz Meeting
> Hathut
>
>
>
> Les Poules
> Les Glaneuses
> Prairie Orange
> Ambiance Magnetiques
>
>
>
> Nick fraser/Justin Haynes
> Eating Disorders in Action
> Are Faking It
> independent
>
>
>
> Nick Fraser/Justin Haynes
> This Statement is False/Beachball Volleyball
> Are Faking It
> independent
>
>
>
> Mats Gustafsson
> Retreat
> Windows
> Blue Chopsticks
>
>
>
> Thelonious Monk
> Evidence
> Big Band and Quartet
> CBS
>
>
>
> Dalachinsky/Ughi
> It's Been Nothing Since ...
> I Thought It Was The End Of The
> 577 Records
>
>
>
> Your support is necessary in keeping this voice for the music current. 
> Please feel free to forward music to the address below. Thanks again 
> for your support. Keep Listening
>
> Thanks
> Mike
>
>
> Mike Hansen
> CKLN FM 88.1
> Whynot Jazz Program
> 79 Benson Ave.
> Toronto,On
> Canada
> M6G 2H7
> xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx
>
>






From 
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 14:56:39 -0500
From: Juanjose <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx.xx>
Subject: test
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From 
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 15:01:01 -0500
From: Juanjose <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx.xx>
Subject: ::radicaltechgnology::
To: "[microsound]" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
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RADICALTECHNOLOGY
 
Is an experimental project that it looks for develop an investigation
about electronic means and their mechanisms of representation. taking
electronic remainders and the errors produced in the Digital System
Processing.
 
Click here:
 
http://mx.geocities.com/justburnagain/
 
Juanjose Rivas Ziga
Radical technology
video || noise || 
xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx.xx
 
 
 
 
RADICALTECHNOLOGY
 
Es un proyecto experimental que busca desarrollar una investigacin
dentro de los medios electrnicos y sus mecanismos de representacin
tomando como materia prima los residuos electrnicos y los errores
producidos dentro del sistema de procesamiento digital.
 
Haz clic aqu:
 
 
http://mx.geocities.com/justburnagain/
 
 
Juanjose Rivas Ziga
Radical technology
video || noise || 
xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx.xx
 
 

--Boundary_(ID_2F1exukJy23NLMgZiE6XLw)--





From 
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2004 03:27:29 +0000
From: twonky yup <xxx_xxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: wobbly
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From: Boniato <xxxxxxx@xxx.xxx>
To: xxx_xxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx
Subject: Boniato-004: Wobbly, Blevin Blectum, Sutekh and People Like Us


From 
Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 18:05:28 -0400



Wobbly "Multiple Peady" [Boniato-004] 12-inch EP (45 RPM)
Release 

From 
Date: June 21, 2004 (USA)

A1. "General Peady" (Wobbly)
A2. "Chicken Jiggler Peady" (Blevin Blectum)
B1. "Clawing Your Eyes Out Down To Your Peady" (Sutekh)
B2. "Tremble Peady" (People Like Us)


"Multiple Peady", a set of four remixes of two tracks from Wobbly's 
"Playlist" EP, resulting in a bizarre, but coherent suite of music for the 
uh dance floor. Wobbly's own "General Peady" is actually the Original Peady, 
a strict-tempo hop, stitching tunes from angry pieces. Blevin Blectum's 
"Chicken Jiggler Peady" atomizes the Peady into a writhing, mysterious mass, 
less Chicken than Snake. Sutekh's "Clawing Your Eyes Out Down To Your Peady" 
is blazing, full-throttle, swing-time, 12-inch specific, while People Like 
Us' "Tremble Peady" peels the sound-set away to reveal a bafflingly lovely 
arrangement of the original, country/gospel tune.

The "Multiple Peady" EP is pressed on green vinyl in an edition of 440 and 
packaged in a generic, bodega-style, center-die-cut, chipboard cover and 
sealed in a durable, poly-bag. Please refer to your stylus manufacturer's 
specifications in order to extract the full dynamic range from the grooves.

Wobbly is San Francisco resident Lon Leidecker. Wobbly releases include 
"Wild Why" for Tigerbeat6, "Live 99>00" for Phthalo, "Regards" for Alku, and 
"Playlist" for Illegal Art. Ongoing studio and live projects involve 
collaborations with Matmos, People Like Us, Thomas Dimuzio, and, as 
keyboardist for the audio/video band SAGAN, with fellow members J Lesser, 
Blevin Blectum, and Ryan Junell.



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From 
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 21:51:24 +0200
From: bastien remion <xxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xx>
Subject: Playlist "electrons libres-Futur (re)mix"
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Hello everybody all the microsounder's...Como allez-vous???

WELCOME TO THE ELECTRONS LIBRES AND FUTURE (re)<MIX NEWSLETTER


-----------------------------------ELECTRONS-----------------
---------------LIBRES------------------------------------
--------------------POWERPLAY -----------------------------------
No Emission!!!
See ya In July for the "Summer Complexity party time" :-)

--------------------------------------------------------------
 ---------------------FUTURE (re)MIX------------------
+++++++++-----13h/16h---------------21/06/04******-----+-+-+++-
------------------------------------------- 
Check it the june playlist very soon  @   http://www.radiobeton.com

Part1....Is Back In time...It's
THE BRAIN #28
All playlist :    http://lautre.thebrain.net

Part2:    MISS KITTIN ON THE WAY
1-Detroit Grand Pubahs feat Miss Kittin: Cash Without working (Jive)
    -Album "Funk all y'all"
2-Antonelli Electr with Miss Kittin: The Vogue (Italic, La Baleine)
    -V/A "Dancer"
3-Golden Boy with Miss Kittin: Rippin Kittin [Elle Allien remix] (Ladomat,
Labels)
    -Rippin Kittin ep
4-Miss Kittin & The Hacker: You & Us (Gigolo)
    -Album "1st album"
5-Miss Kittin: Professional Distorsion [Modelselektor remix] (Nobody'z
bizness, Labels)
    -Professional distorsion ep
6-Max de Warderer: Luster (Accidental, Discograph)
    -Album "Where I am Today"
7-Rhthm Maker: Cityciticism (Level records 01)
    -Quartett ep (with Andy Vaz...)    http://www.level-records.com
8-Rene Breitbarth:Zaq (Treibstoff records)
    -Album "Solar"    http://www.treibstoff.org
9-Luomo: Vocalcity 1 market (Force Tracks)
    -Vocalcity 1 market ep
10-Aqua Bassino: Baby C'mon (F.com, Pias)
    -Beats'n'bobs ep
11-Luke Vibert: Let's dance and freak (Rephlex, La Baleine)
    -Ep "let's dance and freak"
12-Citizens feat. Girlzklub: Get the fuck out [wegner remix] (Lebensfreude
03)
    -Get the fuck out & remixes ep    http://www.lebensfreude-berlin.de
13-Tomas Andersson: 2002-05-07 (Bpitch control)
    -Minimal Mama ep
14-Seek & Destroy:Socializing (Lebensfreude records)
    -V/A "Lebensfreude"
15-Mr Oizo:1$44 (F.com)
    -Stunt ep
16-Umod [Aka Domu] : Tromboline (Sonar Kollectiv, Discograph)
    -Album "Enter the Umod"    http://www.dom-uniqueproductions.co.uk
17-Marcos Valle:Valeu [4hero remix] (Fabric, Pias)
    -V/A "FabricLive 15"
18-Marcos Valle: Parabens + Quarteto Em Cy: Tudo que Voce podia ser (Ether
records)
    -V/A "Gilles Peterson In Brazil-Classico & Da hora"
19-Theo Parrish: Sawala Sayala (Sound Signature)
    -Ep "I can't take it"
20-Throbbing Gristle: hot on the heels of love [Ratcliffe remix] (Novamute,
Labels)
    -Album remix "Mutant TG"
21-Aux 88: Bytes (430 west records)
    -ep "Bytes"


Heee ya....
Happyness all and "see the Sun"
Bye!!!

----------------------------***--//---]]]-[-------------------
Radio Bton 93.6/electrons libres  17h-18h 
                           /The Brain13h-14h
                           /Future (re)Mix monday 14h-15h30
90 avenue Maginot
37100 Tours
tl:0247510383
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From 
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2004 02:39:57 -0700
From: Kim Cascone <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: TWiki site
To: microsound_list <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
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does anyone have server space where we can set up a TWiki server for the
microsound list?
please contact me offline...
danke!
KIM
PS greetings from Mons.BE!






From 
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2004 11:44:32 +0000
From: Onda Sonora Radio <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Contents Onda Sonora 23-06-04
To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx
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www.ondasonoraradio.com
Radio Crculo De Bellas Artes. Mircoles. 15:00-16:00. 100.4 Fm
www.circulobellasartes.com
Radio Autnoma. Martes-Jueves-Sabado. 18:00-19:00
www.uam.es/radio
Radio Enlace. Martes. 19:00-20:00. 107.5 Fm. Madrid

Contenidos Onda Sonora (Radio Sesiones Experimentales) 23-06-04

01. MAX EASTLEY / DAVID TOOP
Track: Eyelash Turned Inwards
Album: Haunted Weather / Doll Creature
Label: Staubgold / Bip-hop

Corte incluido en el excelente doble cd, editado por Staubgold, que acompaa 
al ultimo libro de David Toop y proveniente de la tercera colaboracion en 
disco entre ambos compositores britanicos que acaba de publicar Bip-hop

02. COTI
Track: Pluckp
Album: Lido / Lato
Label: Poeta Negra

Nos trasladamos a las oficinas del sello griego Poeta Negra en Salonica con 
el cuarto disco del productor y compositor griego Coti. Lo que va a sonar es 
un corte de la primera parte de este doble cd, ms aislacionista e 
inquietante

03. COTI
Track: Neige P.
Album: Lido / Lato
Label: Poeta Negra

Uno de los cortes del excelente segundo cd de Coti, Lato, ms meldico y 
compacto que su parte complementaria, Lido

04. APOSTOLOS LOUFOPOULOS
Track: Night Pulses
Album: Sonicity
Label: Sonicity

Otro doble disco, documenta la actividad de los estudios de la City 
Universtity de Londres en los ultimos dos aos. El corte que va a sonar 
corresponde al griego Apostolos Loufopoulos, ganador de varios premios en el 
campo de la composicin electroacustica

05. AMBROSE SEDDON
Track: Tambo
Album: Sonicity
Label: Expanding

De el griego Apostolus Loufopoulos al britanico Ambrose Seddon que empezo 
trabajando en proyectos de rock y electronica y ms tarde empezo a dedicarse 
a la composicon acusmtica. Esto es un estudio de la Tamburina incluido 
tambien en el doble cd Sonicity, editado por la City University de Londres

06. HERVE BOGHOSSIAN
Track: Mouvement Aerion
Album: Mouvements
Label: Raster-noton / Raster Post

Ultimo trabajo de este interesante artista que reside y trabaja en Paris. 
Esto es Mouvement, una obra que publica el sello aleman Raster-noton

07. MINIMALISTIC SWEDEN
Track: Standard Klickmusik
Album: Standard Klickmusik
Label: Mitek

Notable colaboracion entre 4 artistas de la ciudad de Hasslehlml, al sur de 
Suecia, el ya reputado Andreas Tilliander, el ms desconocido pero igual de 
interesante Stefan Tho, aka Folie, y dos miembros de Pfeffenbauer

08. NAUTICAL ALMANAC
Track: Exterior Beaten
Album: Rooting For The Microbes
Label: Load

Excelente ultimo trabajo de los americanos Nautical Almanac, en el cual se 
han rodeado de colaboradores y en el que no han utilizado electiricidad ni 
ordenadores, trabajando con instrumentos caseros creados por ellos mismos

09. NAUTICAL ALMANAC
Track: It`s Better tell Secrets
Album: Six Residua
Label: Heresee

Anterior trabajo de Nautical Almanac, un proyecto que comenzo en Michigan, 
pero que tuvo que trasladarse a Chicago por problemas con la justicia, y de 
ah a Baltimore, donde los componentes de Nautical Almanac han establecido 
su nueva base que utilizan como sala para sus conciertos y como base para su 
propio sello Heresee, en donde publicaron Cisum

10. ERGO PHIZMIZ AND HIS ORCHESTRA
Track: Come to Debbie
Album: ergo phizmiz and his orchestra plays aphex twin
Label: Murkow

Relecturas de 9 temas clsicos de Aphex Twin que este britanico de 22 aos 
ha editado a traves de su propia plataforma Murkow. Su msica, poco 
definible, tiene influencias de artistas como Pascal Comelade o Los 
Residents entre otros. El tema que va a sonar es una version del Come To 
Daddy de Aphex Twin, en este caso Come To Debbie

11. PORN SWORD TOBACCO
Track: Riot Control / Charlie Chaplin
Album: Porn Sword Tobacco
Label: City Centre Offices

Esta semana nos despedimos desde el sello aleman City Centre Ofices con uno 
de los mejores trabajos que han editado hasta la fecha, se trata de Porn 
Sword Tobacco,  proyecto proveniente de Suecia con temas preciosos y con 
influencias de Harold Budd, Erik Satie o Brian Eno, entre otros

                                                    English Version

Contents Onda Sonora (Experimental Radio Sessions) 23-06-04

01. MAX EASTLEY / DAVID TOOP
Track: Eyelash Turned Inwards
Album: Haunted Weather / Doll Creature
Label: Staubgold / Bip-hop

Track from the double cd enclosed in David Toops last book Haunted 
Weather. It comes from the recent third collaboration between both British 
composers, Doll Creatures

02. COTI
Track: Pluckp
Album: Lido / Lato
Label: Poeta Negra

From Poeta Negra label offices in Thessalonika, the fourth album of Greek 
composer and music productor Coti. A double cd with two complementary parts: 
Lido...

03. COTI
Track: Neige P.
Album: Lido / Lato
Label: Poeta Negra

.... and Lato. The first more abstract and this one going deeper into 
melodies

04. APOSTOLOS LOUFOPOULOS
Track: Night Pulses
Album: Sonicity
Label: Sonicity

Sonicity is another double disc, documenting the activities of the City 
University studios in London. Apostolos Loufopoulos is a Greek composer 
awarded in the field of electroacoustic composition

05. AMBROSE SEDDON
Track: Tambo
Album: Sonicity
Label: Expanding

From Apostolos Loufopoulos to Ambrose Sedon, who began working with rock and 
electronica and has become one of the leading promises of acousmatic 
composition in the United Kingdom, along with Canadian Ian Stewart

06. HERVE BOGHOSSIAN
Track: Mouvement Aerion
Album: Mouvements
Label: Raster-noton / Raster Post

Last work by Herve Boghossian, an artist who lives and works from Paris. 
Guitar composed tracks later re-worked by computer-based effects

07. MINIMALISTIC SWEDEN
Track: Standard Klickmusik
Album: Standard Klickmusik
Label: Mitek

Last edition of Swedish Mitek label. A collaboration between four Hasslehlm 
artists: Andreas Tilliander, Stefan Thor, aka Folie, and the two members of 
Pfeffenbauer -the Sweddish minimalistic activists

08. NAUTICAL ALMANAC
Track: Exterior Beaten
Album: Rooting For The Microbes
Label: Load

Last work by Nautical Almanac in the Load label, surrounded by some 
collaborators and played without electricity or computers, working with 
homemade instruments created by themselves speially for the occasion

09. NAUTICAL ALMANAC
Track: It`s Better tell Secrets
Album: Six Residua
Label: Heresee

This is Nautical Almanac's previous work, a project that was born in 
Michigan, moved to Chicago for legal problems and then to Baltimore, 
Maryland, where they have established themselves, using their attic as a 
concert room for their live shows and creating their own Heresee label

10. ERGO PHIZMIZ AND HIS ORCHESTRA
Track: Come to Debbie
Album: ergo phizmiz and his orchestra plays aphex twin
Label: Murkow

One of the re-workings between the nine classic Aphex Twin tracks that this 
young British (22), Ergo Phizmiz, has edited through his platform Murkow

11. PORN SWORD TOBACCO
Track: Riot Control / Charlie Chaplin
Album: Porn Sword Tobacco
Label: City Centre Offices

Between the best works released in City Centre Offices, the album by this 
Sweddish project called Porn Sword Tobacco

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podra interesar. Si no quieres volver a recibir mensajes de nuestro 
programa, devulvelo poniendo "Brrame" en el asunto. Inmediatamente te 
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From 
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2004 14:05:39 +0100
From: susanna <xxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx.xx>
Subject: review music on sonomu
To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx
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hia

a quick sonomu update

SONOMU - sound noise music
http://sonomu.net/

Community,  tool, network and resource for the new independent music 
fan. Discover, disseminate and discuss new music - your own or other 
people's.

REVIEW MUSIC ON SONOMU.NET
http://sonomu.net/reviews/

Are you a budding critic? Do you itch to broadcast your thoughts on 
the latest music to others? Have you thought of reviewing CDs on 
sonomu.net but don't know where to start?

Everybody and anybody who is a member of sonomu.net can submit 
reviews. Don't be shy now! This is a place for music lovers to share 
their thoughts with other music lovers.

To start, just log in (or join if you're not a member - password and 
email address is all it takes) and search for the CD you'd like to 
review. Then just follow the links for reviewing that CD. You're in 
charge - you publish when you're ready.

If the CD doesn't appear on sonomu.net, you can still go to 'add 
texts and events' in the panel to create a review and publish. Again, 
you're in charge.

If you are very keen and are interested in regularly reviewing and 
writing about the CDs sonomu gets sent from all over the world please 
contact sonomu HQ in the feedback form on the site or mail 
xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx.

THE MARKETPLACE
http://sonomu.net/shops/

Buy directly from our label members! Label members include Hungry 
Hill, Benbecula, Lo Recordings, Uncharted Audio, Pickled Egg, 
Radiotone, Peter I'm Flying, Moof, Trace Recordings and loads more 
(plus more to come).

The sonomu marketplace enables small labels to manage their own shops 
via our secure credit card platform.

Go buy! http://sonomu.net/shops/

And if you're a label and interested in joining the sonomu.net 
network please mail xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx or use the feedback form found 
on the site.

thanks

susanna











From 
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2004 16:02:18 +0200
From: cjitter <xxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx>
Subject: KLANGMASCHINE - conexi=?ISO-8859-1?B?8w==?=n Chile @ Morpheus
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KLANGMASCHINE - conexión Chile @ Morpheus

Club Morpheus

Sábado 26 de Junio 2004 - de 22:00 a 3:00 h
c / La Palma, 31 (Madrid)  - Metro Tribunal
Sala The Missión Cleind (Planta de abajo)

Entrada 4 € sin consumición

Organiza: Asociación CRC y F_ON (p)
Colabora: Rotor y Morpheus
+ifno: http://www.ccapitalia.net/crc

     
    Uran (Audio Session)
         
   Uran, natural de barcelona actualmente afincada en Madrid, es una
apasionada coleccionista de música electrónica desde hace muchos años, y eso
se refleja en la fina selección de temas de sus sesiones, un cocktail muy
personal y original de "indietrónica", IDM, y las nuevas tendencias
vanguardistas de la música digital. Entre sus apariciones como dj cabe
destacar sus sesiones en After-Arco 2003, en Oui, Less y en
Experimentaclub03.


     Receptor (Live)
 
   Jorge Cortés viene de Santiago de Chile, desde donde dirige el sello de
música electrónica Ojo de Apolo. Desde 1997 hasta el 2002 trabajó como
Cáncer, desarrollando un cruce entre la intimación y sonidos pulsantes,
acompañado de paisajes granulares. Destacar su ultimo trabajo, CD compartido
con Ok Suitcase, editado en el sello portugués Crónica Electrónica, así como
sus actuaciones en el Goethe Institut (Chile), Hoerbar (Hamburgo) y el Museo
de Ciencias Naturales de Buenos Aires.

   
     Daoun | Producciones Nebula - Morpheus (Dj set)
         
   Sus comienzos se remontan en esto de la música a mediados de los 80
cuando se ve influenciado por la electrónica mas pop.... Entre una cosa y
otra empezó a maquinar con una MC 505 y un SP 808 [experimentar y componer
músicas que sean propias era su objetivo], se reúne con un amigo y músico,
Juan Alberto Navazo y llevan a cabo un proyecto llamado Fromm... Hoy día
sigue activo con trabajos en los que la mezcla de electro atmosférico con
graves atronadores... En el 02-03 llevan a cabo Morpheus y lo enfocan al
minimal-minimalhouse y electro...
Actualmente Daoun forma parte de Producciones Nebula junto a Javier Olmos,
siendo residente viernes y sábados noche en Morpheus [club con entrada
gratuita de primera hora en Mission Cleimd].

 
      


       






From 
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2004 10:34:19 -0400
From: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx
Subject: [ot promotional] upcoming shows northeast usa
To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: "will s." <xxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx>
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????: ????? ???? 2oo4 
upcoming shows

will soderberg

26 june 2oo4 saturday
nom d'artiste, boston, ma
-w/kites, prurient, nmperign, white cocaine

27 june 2oo4 sunday
strange maine, portland, me
-w/idm theft able

28 june 2oo4 monday
as220, providence, ri
-w/comorevi butterfly, chaos character, mr. slugg and the legion of doom

29 june 2oo4 tuesday
flywheel, easthampton, ma
-w/univark, massacre of the dead, king darves

3o june 2oo4 wednesday
lucky cat, brooklyn, ny
-w/astro-cusion, jeff arnal/daniel carter duo, this spy surfs

1-2 july 2oo4 friday-saturday
nyc? [i am open for suggestions]

3 july 2oo4 saturday
the red room at normals books and records, baltimore, md
 -w/(3 drummers) dan breen, bob wagner, and a mystery guest 

4 july 2oo4 sunday
garfield artworks, pittsburgh, pa
 -w/x-13, 8cylinder 

http://white-rose.net/shows.shtml (shows)
http://www.existentialista.com/~uforika/ (mp3s)
http://white-rose.net/sounds.html (catalog)

"an eclectic individual, will soderberg, is part of an ever evolving collective of musicians and sound makers. playing under various guises and making lots of racket, he has been exploring the outer limits of sound and music for over a decade. on this night he will be using a laptop, guitar and various electronics to conjure up bone rattling sounds of ghosts in the rafters."

"gnarly, crude-analog-electro, michigan style -- with occasional guitar/laptop entering the fold."

the animal snatches the whip from its master and whips itself so as to become master, and does not know that all this is only a fantasy caused by a new knot in the master's whiplash
~kafka 

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From 
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2004 15:16:31 -0700 (PDT)
From: Aaron Ximm <xxxxx@xxxx.xxx>
Subject: [EVENT][Fri June 25] Field Effects 19: Tape Take Two
To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
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Hey folks. Per a suggestion on this list, for this announcement, I'm
trying a new strategy: the details of the performance can be found at
the event's page; I'm not quoting the full release here; The URL is at
the bottom of this message -- aaron

----------[ Quiet American presents at 964 Natoma ]--------------------

Field Effects 19: Tape Take Two
Friday, June 25th ~ doors 8pm
964 Natoma, San Francisco, CA (USA)

$6-10 requested sliding donation, no one turned away for lack of funds.

----> Event Description <----------------------------------------------

The Field Effects series showcase the use of found sound, found
materials, and field recordings in media art, presented in a uniquely
comfortable environment.

For this show, we will listen to contemporary prepared compositions
(otherwise known as 'tape music') from four American sound artists and
composers. Three of the artists will be on hand to present and discuss
their work in person.

Field Effects 19 features work from composers:

  maggi payne
        http://www.mills.edu/music/mus_maggi.html

  phillip bimstein
        http://www.bimstein.com

  ellen band
        http://www.ellenband.com

  jen boyd

Seating mostly on futons and our new flock of beanbags, to encourage
comfortable deep listening. Drinks will be available on a donation-
based honor system. With luck, someone will bake cookies.

----> Additional Info <-----------------------------------------------

A full description of the artists and the work they will present:

 http://www.quietamerican.org/fe19.html

About the series:

 http://www.fieldeffects.org

This message is not for print distribution or advertising.
This is a private event for friends, family and our community.

Questions? Write xxxxx@xxxx.xxx





From 
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 14:19:46 +0100
From: Thanos Chrysakis <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx.xx>
Subject: Re: [microsound] [EVENT][Fri June 25] Field Effects 19: Tape Take        Two
To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
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on 6/22/04 11:16 PM, Aaron Ximm at xxxxx@xxxx.xxx wrote:

> Hey folks. Per a suggestion on this list, for this announcement, I'm
> trying a new strategy: the details of the performance can be found at
> the event's page; I'm not quoting the full release here; The URL is at
> the bottom of this message -- aaron

congrats Aaron. We need more and more of these kind of intimate  events!

best regards
Thanos






From 
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 07:23:18 +0200
From: philippe-petit <xxxxxxxx-xxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx>
Subject: in case some of you live in bruxelles and want to listen to some
 guitar, minimal atmospheres...
To: "xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>,
 ambient <xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>,
 "xxx_xxxxxxx_xxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx" <xxx_xxxxxxx_xxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>,
 "xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx" <xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>,
 idm - moderated <xxx-x@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>,
 "xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx" <xxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx>,
 annonces Wire <xxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx>
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in case some of you live in bruxelles and want to listen to some guitar,
minimal atmospheres...

27. 06. 04 BiP_HOp Generation # 65
Bruxelles- RecyclArt ::: 18:00 to 22:00
Opak -1 + Foern + dj/xx@xxx-xxx.xxx

would be nice to meet...
all the best
philippe

http://www.bip-hop.com







From 
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 03:53:45 -0400 (EDT)
From: Abflug <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx>
Subject: [review] Karri O. - Kids Used to Dream of...
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The Chilean magazine Loop (www.loop.cl) has published
its review of Karri O.'s 'Kids Used to Dream of
Becoming Astronauts' online. Check out the full review
in Spanish and a quick English translation at
http://www.loop.cl/comentarios.asp?cod=79321051141149775.

Karri O., 'Kids Used to Dream of Becoming Astronauts',
Abflug 2004

"Karri Ojanen is the label manager of the Finnnish
Abflug imprint which was founded in 2003. His music
exposes genres such as electronica, techno and minimal
house. His electronic facet drinks of waters of
Autechre and the Warp sound which is exemplified in
his first cut 'Before'; with its timbres through
keyboard notes and fractured rhythm. 'One Finger, Two
Feet' shows his minimal house face with a hypnotic
groove. 'Subconscious dub' has powerful bassdrums
whose rhythmical techno takes us to a trance mood. The
final cut 'No more Mondays' has got a gorgeous melody
line with its bells like keyboard notes."
- Guillermo Escudero / Loop


Abflug
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Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 08:59:35 +0100
From: David Newman <xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx.xx>
Subject: Mercedes Benz mp3 Mix Tape
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Mercedes Benz have released a free to download mp3 mix tape on their global
car site ::::

The tape includes tracks poerating across a number of electronic music
genres - mostly idm & techno but there are elements & influences from
microsound field to be heard ::::

http://www.mercedes-benz.com/mixedtape

The current selection includes a track from He Can Jog (Erik Schoster) &
Terry Ubrien  from www.audiobulb.com

David Newman
Audiobulb Records
www.audiobulb.com








From 
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 13:51:30 +0200
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great  now it's about time to forget all those worries about global 
players like Mercedes Benz: how they treat people, environment, and 
culture! as long as they put your track on a mix tape, the world can't 
be as sad as it seems ...

.... what a laugh. and don't fool yourself with "reaching a different 
audience": as soon as MB gets feedback, future mixed tapes will be 
cleared of anything that doesn't appeal to those yuppies in their MB 
and SMART cars (incl. your own highly interesting releases). do you 
really think anyone chose those tracks because of their musical 
quality? it's because they're free (of charge), and that makes them a 
very cheap marketing tool to blind even the enlightened ones.
please alter the creative commons-license a.s.a.p. to exclude those 
moneymoneymoneyheads from an evergrowing culture. shut the door.

brave new world.

the expert (worried)


> Mercedes Benz have released a free to download mp3 mix tape on their 
> global
> car site ::::
>
> The tape includes tracks poerating across a number of electronic music
> genres - mostly idm & techno but there are elements & influences from
> microsound field to be heard ::::
>
> http://www.mercedes-benz.com/mixedtape
>
> The current selection includes a track from He Can Jog (Erik Schoster) 
> &
> Terry Ubrien  from www.audiobulb.com
>
> David Newman
> Audiobulb Records
> www.audiobulb.com
>
>
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From 
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 13:02:23 +0100
From: David Newman <xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx.xx>
Subject: Re: [microsound] Mercedes Benz mp3 Mix Tape
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I was'nt aware that Mercedes Benz had a poor record in terms of people,
environment and culture.

Do you have any significant examples... or are you dealing in a
generalisation?
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Subject: Re: [microsound] Mercedes Benz mp3 Mix Tape


great  now it's about time to forget all those worries about global
players like Mercedes Benz: how they treat people, environment, and
culture! as long as they put your track on a mix tape, the world can't
be as sad as it seems ...

.... what a laugh. and don't fool yourself with "reaching a different
audience": as soon as MB gets feedback, future mixed tapes will be
cleared of anything that doesn't appeal to those yuppies in their MB
and SMART cars (incl. your own highly interesting releases). do you
really think anyone chose those tracks because of their musical
quality? it's because they're free (of charge), and that makes them a
very cheap marketing tool to blind even the enlightened ones.
please alter the creative commons-license a.s.a.p. to exclude those
moneymoneymoneyheads from an evergrowing culture. shut the door.

brave new world.

the expert (worried)


> Mercedes Benz have released a free to download mp3 mix tape on their
> global
> car site ::::
>
> The tape includes tracks poerating across a number of electronic music
> genres - mostly idm & techno but there are elements & influences from
> microsound field to be heard ::::
>
> http://www.mercedes-benz.com/mixedtape
>
> The current selection includes a track from He Can Jog (Erik Schoster)
> &
> Terry Ubrien  from www.audiobulb.com
>
> David Newman
> Audiobulb Records
> www.audiobulb.com
>
>
>
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From 
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 07:42:00 -0700 (PDT)
From: Brian Klein <xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [microsound] Mercedes Benz mp3 Mix Tape
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where is the music/mp3 itself? when i looked, there
was only a short description and a link that said
"start special." when i clicked on it, the page just reloaded.


                
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Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 15:47:56 +0100
From: "xxxx@xxxxx.xxx" <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx.xx>
Subject: Re: [microsound] Mercedes Benz mp3 Mix Tape
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do u have a popup blocker?

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
http://www.sijis.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
spank-moose/canada day
july 1st 2004 @ the foundry london




> where is the music/mp3 itself? when i looked, there
> was only a short description and a link that said
> "start special." when i clicked on it, the page just reloaded.






From 
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 16:03:01 +0100
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Yes pop-up blocker needs to be switched off ::::

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> do u have a popup blocker?
> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> http://www.sijis.com
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> spank-moose/canada day
> july 1st 2004 @ the foundry london
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > where is the music/mp3 itself? when i looked, there
> > was only a short description and a link that said
> > "start special." when i clicked on it, the page just reloaded.
> 
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From 
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 15:53:49 -0400 (EDT)
From: Patrick Valiquet <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx>
Subject: ottawa venues/contacts?
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a shot in the dark from pino the frog...

i'm going to be in ottawa, on (canada) july 28-august4
and would love to play out there if i get the chance.
so i'm looking for performance opportunities/venue
contacts in ottawa (or possibly montreal). 

sorry if i've annoyed anyone. please reply off list.

thanks, 

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From 
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 16:00:33 -0400 (EDT)
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if you can pass along the info once you got it that would be cool I have
been tring to find out the same info for some time my self (living only 2
hrs away I often would like to play ottawa...) but to no luck...
:(




On Wed, 23 Jun 2004, Patrick Valiquet wrote:

> a shot in the dark from pino the frog...
>
> i'm going to be in ottawa, on (canada) july 28-august4
> and would love to play out there if i get the chance.
> so i'm looking for performance opportunities/venue
> contacts in ottawa (or possibly montreal).
>
> sorry if i've annoyed anyone. please reply off list.
>
> thanks,
>
> p
>
>
> =====
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> =>Ms؛h#k#6:kB*کGγ>u45
> 8 http://www3.telus.net/pinothefrog/ @WϱUIѼms +5E)I B/@Agt(qm0%DcW_
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From 
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 16:44:03 -0400
From: Michael North <xxxxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx>
Subject: RE: [microsound] ottawa venues/contacts?
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Hello I'm in/outside Ottawa and had been looking at setting up some gigs here/there but got sidetracked selling my abode...still sorta sidetracked/still selling the house...anyway I'll forward some addresses that I know of...there are some places to play here...mostly smaller venues....

mike_north

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//*Subject: Re: [microsound] ottawa venues/contacts?
//*
//*
//*if you can pass along the info once you got it that would be cool I have
//*been tring to find out the same info for some time my self (living only 2
//*hrs away I often would like to play ottawa...) but to no luck...
//*:(
//*
//*
//*
//*
//*On Wed, 23 Jun 2004, Patrick Valiquet wrote:
//*
//*> a shot in the dark from pino the frog...
//*>
//*> i'm going to be in ottawa, on (canada) july 28-august4
//*> and would love to play out there if i get the chance.
//*> so i'm looking for performance opportunities/venue
//*> contacts in ottawa (or possibly montreal).
//*>
//*> sorry if i've annoyed anyone. please reply off list.
//*>
//*> thanks,
//*>
//*> p
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From 
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 16:53:55 -0400 (EDT)
From: Neil Wiernik <xxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx>
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that would be super cool michael...
Im in montreal
so small venues are always nice to me...
neil..



On Wed, 23 Jun 2004, Michael North wrote:

> Hello I'm in/outside Ottawa and had been looking at setting up some gigs here/there but got sidetracked selling my abode...still sorta sidetracked/still selling the house...anyway I'll forward some addresses that I know of...there are some places to play here...mostly smaller venues....
>
> mike_north
>
> //*-----Original Message-----
> //*From: Neil Wiernik [mailto:xxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx]
> //*Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2004 3:01 PM
> //*To: microsound
> //*Subject: Re: [microsound] ottawa venues/contacts?
> //*
> //*
> //*if you can pass along the info once you got it that would be cool I have
> //*been tring to find out the same info for some time my self (living only 2
> //*hrs away I often would like to play ottawa...) but to no luck...
> //*:(
> //*
> //*
> //*
> //*
> //*On Wed, 23 Jun 2004, Patrick Valiquet wrote:
> //*
> //*> a shot in the dark from pino the frog...
> //*>
> //*> i'm going to be in ottawa, on (canada) july 28-august4
> //*> and would love to play out there if i get the chance.
> //*> so i'm looking for performance opportunities/venue
> //*> contacts in ottawa (or possibly montreal).
> //*>
> //*> sorry if i've annoyed anyone. please reply off list.
> //*>
> //*> thanks,
> //*>
> //*> p
> //*>
> //*>
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 http://www.pieheadrecords.com
 http://www.worthyrecords.com
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Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 08:32:55 -0500
From: "s. arden hill" <x_xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx>
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When I played in Ottawa it was at the SAW Gallery. Small venue but sounded 
pretty good. The people were amazing and had a nice turn out. I have heard 
that other people have played there as well. It might be worth a shot 
contacting them

xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx

good luck,
Arden




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Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 16:53:55 -0400 (EDT)
To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
From: Neil Wiernik <xxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx>
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that would be super cool michael...
Im in montreal
so small venues are always nice to me...
neil..

On Wed, 23 Jun 2004, Michael North wrote:

>Hello I'm in/outside Ottawa and had been looking at setting up some gigs =
here/there but got sidetracked selling my abode...still sorta sidetracked/s=
till selling the house...anyway I'll forward some addresses that I know of.=
=2E.there are some places to play here...mostly smaller venues....
>
>mike_north
>
>//*-----Original Message-----
>//*From: Neil Wiernik [mailto:xxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx]
>//*Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2004 3:01 PM
>//*To: microsound
>//*Subject: Re: [microsound] ottawa venues/contacts?
>//*
>//*
>//*if you can pass along the info once you got it that would be cool I ha=
ve
>//*been tring to find out the same info for some time my self (living onl=
y 2
>//*hrs away I often would like to play ottawa...) but to no luck...
>//*:(
>//*
>//*
>//*
>//*
>//*On Wed, 23 Jun 2004, Patrick Valiquet wrote:
>//*
>//*> a shot in the dark from pino the frog...
>//*>
>//*> i'm going to be in ottawa, on (canada) july 28-august4
>//*> and would love to play out there if i get the chance.
>//*> so i'm looking for performance opportunities/venue
>//*> contacts in ottawa (or possibly montreal).
>//*>
>//*> sorry if i've annoyed anyone. please reply off list.
>//*>
>//*> thanks,
>//*>
>//*> p

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"Tjeerd Sietsma" <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx> writes:

> You're right, that's a main argument to choose for PD. But next to that,
> PD should also provide it's user with top-level building blocks. 

The links I sent in my previous mail in this thread are such building
blocks and they even have a GUI.  If there aren't enough it's only
because 1) there aren't many users who actually develop for the good
of the community, 2) not enough people asked for such things.  Keep in
mind that many users share their work (not enough perhaps) so you can
always dig in and adapt to your own needs.

> This
> would help a lot of developers gain programming speed and reduce
> efforts.

Developers or users?  

> I guess this is exactly what Miller Puckette doesn't want.

I don't think so.  In fact Miller has started an effort of porting
some pieces from the IRCAM interactive computer music literature
(Boulez, Saariaho, Manoury) and examples of using pd for such things
like collage a la Tenney, spectral resynthesis a la Harvey, phase a la
Reich but IRCAM pulled the plug due to licensing.  Some of the
components (if not most) were ready to reuse.  Blame IRCAM for not
allowing access to such great resource.  OTOH, I doubt David Z., the
cycler74, spends time making user-friendly high-level modules.  Other
people do that.  But then, I don't know jack...  i might be wrong.

The upside is that there is more interest for high-level blocks and
some users started providing some goodies.  Stay tuned.

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From: Michal Seta <xxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx.xxx>
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derek holzer <xxxxx@x-x.xxx> writes:

> alexey [eggnot] grishenko wrote:
> >   im interesting in such kind of environment, or maybe program
> >   language, there posible to operate with sound like usual
> >   programming. where samples and effects can be used like a functions.
> 
> Look at SuperCollider [linux,mac], CSound [linux,mac,pc], Pure Data
> [linux,mac,pc] or MAX/MSP [mac,pc]. SuperCollider and CSound will most
> resemble a "traditional" programming environment, as they are
> text-only and commandline-operated at the core. Pure Data, MAX/MSP and
> the various GUIs written for SuperCollider [mac only] and CSound give
> a more graphical approach to programming and use.

Also, worth checking out: Common Lisp Music, snd (sound editor which
can be scripted with scheme or ruby and and then the user has all CLM
power at his disposal) and Nyquist.  They're all multiplatform to some extent.

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From: Biagio Azzarelli <xxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx>
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hello listites,

I'm out in Vancouver from June 30th - July 7th
and hoping to catch some live music. Haven't 
visited before and want to see what the city has
to offer. Anyone know of any shows or experimental
music spaces?

Any thing else of interest would be great to know
about as well (eg. museums, bldgs, bridges).

thanks,

Biagio Azzarelli
xxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx

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i'm soooooo proud to announce: MOTHER2 (macos adios!) is online now!
it took quite long to release it, with some small and some bigger problems,
but it's here now ready for you to download and enjoy!

i asked atom one year ago to contribute the 2nd mother-list compilation
again, this time totaly different from the 1st MOTHER.

the story goes like this: atom sent me his track, based on several samples
only, and he sent me these samples too.
the mother-list members got the samples only and made their own track out of
them, without listening to the atom's track before.
and the deal was to use only these samples and nothing else.

well, what came out is amazing! it's so great to listen to the different
styles made of very few and very thiny samples, some of mother-members
didn't make anything because it was too thiny for them (miguel ruiz, i'm
sorry you didn't try it!)

but the ones who did it, did a really great job. thank you guys!!




you can find MOTHER @http://atom-heart.com/mother
i have updated the 1st compilation too, so please if you have linked it on
your site change that! use the address above, this is the only one that will
not change.

and one more thing: until 1st of july you'll find zip files of the hi
quality versions of both of compilations. 192kbps AAC files inside (which
sounds something like 224kbps mp3 compression) (you'll need iTunes or
QuickTime to listen to it.)



tracklisting MOTHER2

01 PERNOW vorspann    5:35
02 ATOM align alyn    2:50
03 THE SCHMIDTS bahnweg 1.0    4:06
04 PHONAUT atomaticomposition #2    3:17
05 HELEMANU get out destroy    1:37
06 CONCAV:MBB wechselwirkungen subatomarer teilchen    3:25
07 JET JAGUAR creta    3:53
08 DEVNULL "ab"*    3:35
09 JIM PASCOE tone garden    2:16
10 PELAX [12]bit plot    4:35
11 BAD LAND FARMERS mor mi    3:25
12 MA_HOVINA ma_dre    1:40
13 HELEMANU don helemanu    4:00
14 SF engine.cxt    5:18
15 JON McMILLION demo2    5:18


tracklisting MOTHER1


01 CODEC echoface    5:21
02 ECM coward    5:51
03 [AMB] monofluor (version pharmacoustique)    4:03
04 CONCAV:MBB das baukastenprinzip    5:35
05 SF reduktase    2:47
06 ~CTENE atomdoorstop    3:17
07 MIGUEL A. RUIZ corporal ticket    4:24
08 PHONAUT spacemaker (beatbox edit)    3:58
09 JON McMILLION true blue    3:21
10 MA_HOVINA g. s. u p. materinu    0:58
11 ATOMdigital listening (edit 2001)    4:06
12 FINGERPRINCE + BHANG krassimir's digital breakfast    4:30
13 CRE-8unanswered prayers    3:55
14 NE9LECT du sable sur ta peau    3:40






: : : enjoy but safely   =:

: : : http://atom-heart.com

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Hi all,

A while ago a message was sent to this list concerning a sound
installation honoring the Dalai Lama's visit to Vancouver. I'm wondering
if anyone knows if this installation actually came together-- I sent in
some material to be used for it, but I emailed the address to inquire
about it and got no response.

Thanks,
Mike Hallenbeck
http://www.juniorbirdman.com/archive
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Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 13:48:58 -0700 (PDT)
From: Mark Hannesson <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [microsound] dalai lama / vancouver
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I was at the show/installation (helped out as well). 
It went great, awesome venue, cool sounds.  There were
a few who braved the cold and rainy weather, but all
seemed to enjoy the experience.  I will pass your
email on to the organizer.

Mark Hannesson

--- xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> A while ago a message was sent to this list
> concerning a sound
> installation honoring the Dalai Lama's visit to
> Vancouver. I'm wondering
> if anyone knows if this installation actually came
> together-- I sent in
> some material to be used for it, but I emailed the
> address to inquire
> about it and got no response.
> 
> Thanks,
> Mike Hallenbeck
> http://www.juniorbirdman.com/archive
> 
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Radical technology
 
Is an experimental Project that it looks for develops pan investigation
about electronic means and their mechanisms of representation. Taking
electronic remainders and the errors produced in DSP Click here:
 
http://mx.geocites.com/justburagain
 
 
JUANJOSERIVASZUIGA
[Radical Technology]
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From: Kim Cascone <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
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http://www.wired.com/news/digiwood/0,1412,63952,00.html?tw=wn_tophead_7

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talking of which.....
http://www.sijis.com 
http://www.sijis.com/radioarchive.php
 

Kim Cascone <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
http://www.wired.com/news/digiwood/0,1412,63952,00.html?tw=wn_tophead_7


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please do NOT cross post to the microsound list
thanks!
KIM

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From: "j.frede" <xxxxxx@xxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
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this is a notice to all that are interested, you can now purchase the currentarray t-shirt line on the current recordings website. www.current-recordings.com (on the catalog page)

anyone that purchases the entire line (one of each design) will receive the new j.frede/scanner CD free of charge.


for anyone that didnt catch the last post about the line,, heres the details.

currentarray was created to bring you prints from composers working in the field of computer, microsound and lowercase music. many of the composers for the series you will be familiar with, some are lesser know, but none the less promising acts working in sound and design. when choosing the artists for the series we considered just that, composers whom also work as designers.

each season will bring three new prints, from three different artists. each print will only be available for a short time in a very limited run of 50 pieces.

printed on the highest quality t-shirts. each design will be sold in sizes
(men's) small - medium - large


summer.2004 brings us

steve roden
http://inbetweennoise.com
(trente oiseaux, sirr, line/12k)

janek schaefer
http://www.audiOh.com
(sub rosa, fat cat records, audiOh!)

john hudak
http://www.johnhudak.net
(alluvial Recordings, intransitive recordings, and-oar)


www.current-recordings.com

        also available June 30th, the new j.frede/scanner cd titled "j.frede
rewrites scanners diary" out on current recordings, preview audio clips can
be heard on the site.
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http://www.r4nd.org/info.html
I would be curious to hear thoughts about this work on the list.
I have been listening for several hours.
A brief description below.
I have been working on something similar for image and hope to get it up
soon.

ml

June 23, 2004 
Movin' with rand()%

Every night, I dream of a vast machine. It eternally shuffles quantum
states; it churns all the integers of a complex equilibrium. It's sound that
is at the same time landscape; pure extension and span. This condition has
persisted for weeks, and I blame it on artists Tom Betts and Joe Gilmore,
whose rand()% project seems to have commandeered my RealOne Player.
Commissioned by Huddersfield England's Media Centre Network, this internet
radio station devotes itself entirely to generative and algorithmically
mediated music. Every program rand()% plays is composed afresh in real time;
in essence, it's a soundbot. With talents like Itialian digital artist Lia
and late German composer Karlheinz Stockhausen in the mix, I'm finding it
very hard to sleep. - Lewis LaCook


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http://www.r4nd.org/info.html
I would be curious to hear thoughts about this work on the list.
I have been listening for several hours.
A brief description below.
I have been working on something similar for image and hope to get it up
soon.

ml

June 23, 2004 
Movin' with rand()%

Every night, I dream of a vast machine. It eternally shuffles quantum
states; it churns all the integers of a complex equilibrium. It's sound that
is at the same time landscape; pure extension and span. This condition has
persisted for weeks, and I blame it on artists Tom Betts and Joe Gilmore,
whose rand()% project seems to have commandeered my RealOne Player.
Commissioned by Huddersfield England's Media Centre Network, this internet
radio station devotes itself entirely to generative and algorithmically
mediated music. Every program rand()% plays is composed afresh in real time;
in essence, it's a soundbot. With talents like Itialian digital artist Lia
and late German composer Karlheinz Stockhausen in the mix, I'm finding it
very hard to sleep. - Lewis LaCook



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MessageSymbiosis

Experimental Sound Textures and Rhythms
Headphones recommended

12am - 2am Sunday nights
(1pm - 3pm Sunday afternoon GMT)


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presented by Simon Hampson

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Hi everyone,

I hope this week's email finds you all well... things are finally coming
together again after a busy start to the year.

This Sunday 27th I will be joined by:
- Michael Graeve (http://www.abc.net.au/arts/adlib/stories/s855925.htm) to
chat about his performance piece at Australian Culture Now
(http://www.ngv.vic.gov.au/whatson/whatson_eventlist.jsp?locationID=3&eventI
D=206).

- Brendan Palmer to chat about Environ, held monthly on the first Sunday at
Loop (http://www.environline.net/) (second one coming up on 4th).

Coming Soon:

4th July: J.Frede joins me on the phone from Los Angeles to talk about his
new collaboration with Scanner, j.frede rewrites scanner's diary (see:
www.current-recordings.com and www.jfrede.com)

In the pipeline: Monthly label features, exclusive Sub Rosa mix, Liquid
Architecture 5 features

Until next week...

Simon.
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Date:  20/6/04

Artist :: Track :: Album :: Label


Loscil :: argonaut :: Submers :: Kranky

Vs_Price :: dither :: <calin>minette_ :: Expanding Records

B. Fleischmann :: chad f :: Pop Loops For Breakfast :: Morr Music

Ultra-Red :: N30 :: Below Code :: Comatonse

Ga-Ne-Tli-Yv-S-Di :: solar diazinon (drone mix) :: I-Celestial-Insect ::
Doctsect

Mika Vainio :: motel :: In The Land Of The Blind One-Eyed Is King :: Touch

Gabrielle Proy :: lagom :: Hearing Place :: Move

Christopher Willits :: stomata :: Pollen :: Fallt

Full Swing :: autopoieses. c[ ] edit :: edits :: Orthlorng Musork

C.Rosenau / J.Schoenecker / J.Warchol :: history erased :: Allegorical Power
Dec 03 :: Antiopic

Kid606 :: powerbookfiend :: Kill Sound Before Sound Kills You :: Ipecac

Aoki Takamasa :: who's next? mr. bill will come and kill you to look out for
no. 1 :: 60 Sound Artists Protest The War :: Atak

Kenneth Kirschner :: june 18 2002 :: January 2, 1999 et al :: Conv Net.Lab

Anthony Pateras :: transmutations iv :: Mutant Theatre :: Tsadik

Super_Collider :: bug trackin :: Raw Digits :: Rise Robots Rise

F.Duck :: dither :: CDR from artist

Joel Stern :: saltwort :: Overland :: Naturestrip

Mugen :: 25 october live @ fabrica Pt. 1 :: Term 10 :: 12k

Oval :: store check :: 94diskont :: Thrill Jockey

Takagi Masakatsu :: re pia 1 :: Opus Pia :: Carpark

The Phonographers Union :: 7 :: Live On Sonarchy Radio :: Accretions

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PRIVATELEKTRO Headphone Festival II - 2004 JULY 23rd + 24th

to keep anyone informed about the forthcoming event of the year - privatelektros two 
day headphone streaming festival in july - we launched a special website:

*****************    http://www.headphone-festival.de  ********************

there will be a lot of new stuff in the next weeks (technical description so you can easily 
receive the stream, news about the schedule etc), so check for updates regularly to keep informed.

besides all facts about this years concert and all technical aspects we included a 
VERY HUGE AMOUNT OF DOWNLOADS as a documentation of what happened 
last year at the same place.:

THE DOWNLOADS: VIDEO

"headphone festival 2003 - the movie"

a 25 minute documentation film by ALIAS (www.1-sein.de), featuring excerpts from the live 
concerts, impressions from the receiving spot at GFZK Leipzig and lots of behind the scenes - 
footage (chatting, drinking beer and playing with knobs. youll love it!).

download .wma (low-res):
http://www.headphone-festival.de/download/03_video/03_headphone_wmv_001.wmv

download .avi (divX, hi-res):
http://www.headphone-festival.de/download/03_video/03_headphone_avi_001.avi

THE DOWNLOADS: MUSIC

http://www.headphone-festival.de/download/03_mp3/03_headphone_set02_deadfishaudio.mp3

ARTIST: Dead Fish Audio
TITEL: Electro Dub
FILE-SIZE: 75.407 KB

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http://www.headphone-festival.de/download/03_mp3/03_headphone_set03_parachute.mp3

ARTIST: Parachute
TITEL: Drone Cliczzz Ambient
FILE-SIZE: 70.762 KB

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TITEL: Kleines Glck im Grnen
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TITEL: Licht
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http://www.headphone-festival.de/download/03_mp3/03_headphone_set12_elektroschmidt.mp3

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TITEL: The Great Elektronic Review
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http://www.headphone-festival.de/download/03_mp3/03_headphone_setbonus_elektroschmidt_alias_c_drive.mp3

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RENDEZ VOUS RENDEZ VOUS
DIMANCHE 4 JUILLET 2004 
POUR LES OISEAUX 
PALAIS DES BEAUX ARTS - TERRASSE
LILLE - FRANCE
DE 15H00 A 22H00
ENTREE GRATUITE


LIVE :
POLE [SCAPE (All.) - BERLIN]
SI-CUT.DB [BIP-HOP (F.) - LONDRES]
PHILIPPE CAM [TRAUM (All.) - LE HAVRE]
JONAS BERING [KOMPAKT (All.) - LILLE]
BERN [TRAUM (All.) - LILLE]
TEZ [POSTAIR (F.) - LILLE]

 
POSTAIR vous invite  la terrasse du Palais des Beaux-Arts de Lille
pour un parcours des sens avec 6 concerts de musique lectronique ambiante
et une installation architecturale imagine par STEL. 


La MISE EN SON est garantie de trs haute dfinition grce  un dispositif
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En mtro : ligne 1 - station Rpublique/Beaux-Arts. 
En voiture : suivre direction  Lille centre , 
Parking sous-terrain Place de la Rpublique. 
Personnes  mobilit rduite : accs par le boulevard de la Libert 

En cas de mauvaises conditions mtorologiques, les concerts se 
drouleront  l'intrieur du Palais des Beaux-Arts de Lille (Auditorium). 

L'accs  la terrasse s'effectue par l'intrieur du Palais des Beaux-Arts. 

Ce jour l, la visite du muse est gratuite pour tous. 


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RENDEZ VOUS RENDEZ VOUS
SUNDAY, 4th JULY 2004 
POUR LES OISEAUX 
PALAIS DES BEAUX ARTS - TERRASSE (OPEN AIR)
LILLE - FRANCE
from 3PM to 10PM
FREE ENTRANCE

LIVE :
POLE [SCAPE (All.) - BERLIN]
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PHILIPPE CAM [TRAUM (All.) - LE HAVRE]
JONAS BERING [KOMPAKT (All.) - LILLE]
BERN [TRAUM (All.) - LILLE]
TEZ [POSTAIR (F.) - LILLE]

 
POSTAIR invites you to la terrasse du Palais des Beaux-Arts in Lille
for a sensitive summer afternoon with 6 electronic ambient gigs and
a special architectural structure concepted by STEL. 


Very high quality of sound is guaranted by an advanced modular acoustic system.

Subway : ligne 1 - station Rpublique/Beaux-Arts. 
By car : follow  Lille centre .
Underground parking : Place de la Rpublique. 
Handicapped people : accessibility at Boulevard de la Libert entrance

In case of bad weather, gigs will happen inside the museum at the auditorium. 

Access to the venue is through the main entrance of the museum.

This day, entrance is free also for visiting the museum. 


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please ignore, this just a test 'cause my mail keeps bouncing.

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> Aoki Takamasa :: who's next? mr. bill will come and kill you to look out
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> Kenneth Kirschner :: june 18 2002 :: January 2, 1999 et al :: Conv Net.Lab
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We are proud to be participating in radio presenter/DJ Liz Copeland's Mutek 
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Mutek Satellite is an exclusive, weekly dose of on-the-spot interviews with 
Liz Copeland and Montreal's Mutek festival performers Thinkbox, Isole, 
Andrew Weatherall, Aeroc and Matthew Herbert.

Interviews take place every Thursday night/Friday morning in the 0100 hour 
EST for the duration of the five-week mini-series, as follows:

Thursday night/Friday morning, June 25th: Thinkbox (Canada/USA)
Thursday night/Friday morning, July 2nd: Isole (Germany)
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Paradise/Two Lone Swordsmen) (UK)
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From 
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2004 20:47:27 +1000
From: jon <xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx.xx>
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i was wondering if anyone can help:

- what's the best placement for nearfield monitor speakers?
- is there any issue with placing a speaker right on top of a (hi-fi) 
amp?  will it cause problems?  does this depend on shielding?

thank you so much.

reqards.

by the way, if anyone knows of an available studio space in melbourne, 
australia.. please blip me off-list.
same for anyone who thinks the above topic deserves to be offlist 
replied.


users.tpg.com.au/adslalnw

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Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2004 14:37:56 +0300
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You might find this useful:
http://snipurl.com/7btr

Visa


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Sent: Friday, June 25, 2004 1:47 PM
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> i was wondering if anyone can help:
> 
> - what's the best placement for nearfield monitor speakers?
> - is there any issue with placing a speaker right on top of a (hi-fi) 
> amp?  will it cause problems?  does this depend on shielding?
> 
> thank you so much.
> 

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Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2004 12:53:55 +0100
From: Owen Green <x.x.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx>
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jon wrote:

> i was wondering if anyone can help:
> 
> - what's the best placement for nearfield monitor speakers?

That's a huge question :) Broadly (assuming a stereo setup):

- Your listening position should form an equilateral triangle with your 
monitors, with 1-2m between you and them.

- Your montiors should be aiming straight at your ears, preferably on 
the same plane, but you can angle them from above.

- The monitors should be some distance from the wall behind them (>1m), 
or completely flush with it.

- Small (i.e. most) rooms will have problems with standing waves at some 
low frequencies, creating peaks and troughs in the frequency response. 
This can be helped with some absorption on the walls behind the montiors 
and behind you (a sofa behind you is quite good at absorbsing LF). 
Stereo imaging can be helped with absorption on the side walls.

YMMV, natch.

There's a bundle of stuff on the web :)

> - is there any issue with placing a speaker right on top of a (hi-fi) 
> amp?  will it cause problems?  does this depend on shielding?

Quite possibly, try it and see. It's also quite possible, depending on 
what bits of the amp jut out where, that you will experience reflections 
  from the amp that will affect your listening experince (mastering 
engineer Bob Katz argues against the common practice of placing 
nearfilds on the top of the console for this reason, reccomending 
instead that, if needed, one sets the speakers up at right angles to the 
console and puts up with indignity of turning round to listen / tweak in 
return for letting the monitors do their job).

hth
Owen
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Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2004 13:57:27 +0200
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hello
i suggest easi near 5 studio monitor field referrenced - low budget perfect
for home recording....

cheers
gianluca



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From 
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2004 20:47:27 +1000
>To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
>Subject: [microsound] [ot/tech] monitor placement
>
>
>i was wondering if anyone can help:
>
>- what's the best placement for nearfield monitor speakers?
>- is there any issue with placing a speaker right on top of a (hi-fi)
>amp?  will it cause problems?  does this depend on shielding?
>
>thank you so much.
>
>reqards.
>
>by the way, if anyone knows of an available studio space in melbourne,

>australia.. please blip me off-list.
>same for anyone who thinks the above topic deserves to be offlist
>replied.
>
>
>users.tpg.com.au/adslalnw
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hello all, 
 
i am rather new to list, and found microsound just a short yr ago approximately, but love every aspect of it completely. i guess once you are consumed by a passion such as sound, all else in life begins to suffer somewhat, as i have found myself constantly yearning to experiment in any way i possibly can. anyway, i appreciate the conversations that come from this list. i may be a little off asking this but i am just curious of what you all think concerning artists such as geoff white (edit, perlon ?, force inc), or dino felipe (schematics) for instance? now these artists to my understanding produce a more commercialised form of microsound/sampling if i may state my opinion. i guess what i am really trying to ask is, if these artists are considered microsounders due to the production methods they use and the result they get, by this list rather than just by the media? or are the methods they utilise and the result achieved, not acceptable by microsounders? and if so or if not, explain
 your opinion please. and if you have better things to do than waste time asnwering my petty question, i understand completely, just ignore this post then please. thanks...
 
dom

                
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From: lim <xxx_xxx@xxxxxxx.xxx>
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before i go digging around on my own i just wanted to ask if anyone knows of
or could recommend (off-list) any reliable data recovery companies in the
us...my laptop.s hard-drive failed yesterday, and i was unable to recover
any of my work before i think it went entirely...right now i.m just really
afraid of losing three months of work since my last full backup.

thanks a bunch for your time,
lim;.
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Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2004 14:04:15 +0200
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Have you tried the software recovery solutions?

"Easy Recovery" is one and there is another one which I can't remember right
now, but I used it to get back approx. 100Gb of files from a formatted and
partly overwritten drive...

To ask a company to extract the data physically would probably be VERY VERY
expensive and time consuming.


I must say good luck anyway, hope it works out.
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> before i go digging around on my own i just wanted to ask if anyone knows
of
> or could recommend (off-list) any reliable data recovery companies in the
> us...my laptop.s hard-drive failed yesterday, and i was unable to recover
> any of my work before i think it went entirely...right now i.m just really
> afraid of losing three months of work since my last full backup.
>
> thanks a bunch for your time,
> lim;.
>
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From 
Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2004 14:38:12 +0200
From: derek holzer <xxxxx@x-x.xxx>
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Joakim Lindn wrote:

> To ask a company to extract the data physically would probably be VERY VERY
> expensive and time consuming.

If the drive still works, you might be able to use some commercial 
recovery software, some kind of forensics program, or even to mount the 
drive READONLY with a Linux live CD and recover data that way. Look for 
a Unix utility called "dd" and read the docs.

If the drive is kaput, then most of these companies start over a grand 
and work up from there, depending on how much data. Is your data worth a 
grand?

I called one of these places up here in Holland once, and after choking 
when I heard the price tag, asked for some advice. The guy told me that 
what they usually do is simply get an identical model of harddrive and 
transplant the drive controller chip from the new one to the broken one. 
90% of the time, that will get the drive running so that the data can be 
extracted. Requires some skill in soldering, of course, as well as a 
throw-away drive, and doesn't deal with any physical damage to the disk 
clusters themselves you might have, but it's how the pros do it.

good luck,
d.
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From 
Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2004 21:29:31 +0200
From: Marco Messina <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx>
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A friend of mine has paid 1000€ for recovering an hard disk, if you want I
can check the name of the company

to prevent this situation I suggest you to have an external hard disk where
you can make daily back up



> before i go digging around on my own i just wanted to ask if anyone knows of
> or could recommend (off-list) any reliable data recovery companies in the
> us...my laptop.s hard-drive failed yesterday, and i was unable to recover
> any of my work before i think it went entirely...right now i.m just really
> afraid of losing three months of work since my last full backup.
> 
> thanks a bunch for your time,
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i just read this article this morning as well,, so crazy.

j.frede


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j.frede wrote:

>i just read this article this morning as well,, so crazy.
>
>j.frede
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If they can actually get this thing marketed, I've a feeling it'll be a 
success.  I'd be delighted to buy one of those!

Best,

Rudy

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hi,

just nice fridge tracks

http://www.mego.at/mego001.html


lg,
 heri
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> i just read this article this morning as well,, so crazy.
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Wow - that's a nice concept but it got me wondering.. what if the seals
failed?? I mean the amount of noise that would escape.. certainly wouldn't
be microsound anymore :)

Simon.

Symbiosis - Experimental Sound Textures and Rhythms
Sunday nights, 12am - 2am
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Hello,
I've been on this list for quite a while. And finally I'm posting with 
a request.
I'm looking for 60 sec. max mp3 or aiff format audio recordings of 
people of any faith praying,
but only in whispers. I realize the philosophical implications of using 
this kind of field recording are deep and complex. I'm using it for a 
composition made entirely of unvocalized utterances.
Feel free to contact me off list about it.
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Hi all,

Does anyone know of any happenings in Chicago for the month of August? Also,
If anyone can recommend any record stores or galleries that would be nice
too. And, I'm always available for any performances;-)

best,
omnid  

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"Tjeerd Sietsma" <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx> writes:

> Oops.. with developers I meant people developing patches with PureData.
> PureData itself is already in beta stage, if not a finished product.

No it's not a finished product.  And Miller Puckette insists that it's
'experimental sofwtare'.  That also means that many things may change
in the design... for better or for worse...

> It's the 'recommended' Windows installer that installs all those
> sometimes pre-alpha libraries that can make your system instable.

It is true that some externs can cause crashes and headakes.  But this
was the case with MaxMSP as well.  In fact, when MSP layer was added
it was it that cased the most havoc.  People still bought it and were
happy.  I don't understand why most people are happy with buggy
software if they pay for it while they whine when it's free...  Don't
take it personally, I'm just generalizing and thinking out ASCII.

On the other hand I'm not even sure if what I'm saying applies to
today's MaxMSP.  I haven't used it in years (but I did have seen it
crash in some life performances....).

> Compared to Max/MSP you do spend more time patching your patches,
> because Max/MSP contains many prefabricated objects.

Ah.  That's whole different story.  A lot of patches have been
provided by the community over the years.  Keep in mind that pd has a
smaller user community and hasn't been around for so long.  Some users
have started making some abstractions to make the whole thing more
user-friendly for the newcommers:

frank Barknecht's RRadical project: 
http://puredata.info/community/projects/rradical/RRADicalWiki

David McCullum's abstractions:
http://mentalfloss.ca/sintheta/html/downloads.html

and here you will find pdjimmies (jimmies port) by Zack Settel:
http://tot.sat.qc.ca/fra/nslam.html

There are probably others around.  But these should get you started.

On the other hand, I think that the point of using pd is to roll your
own, but I do agree that having a collection of patches around is good
so that you don't reeinvent the wheel.

> 
> > BTW, what do you mean by incomplete functionnality in PD?
> Lack of prefabricated objects that allow faster development. Naturally
> you can make them yourself with PureData and/or C++, but that'll take
> longer.

as I said above...  but i don't think that lack of patches =
incomplete functionnality.  PD is fully functionnal and its function
is to allow you to program your own patches and offer you the tools
and fexibility to do it.  There maybe some flaws with some solutions
but it is a very capable system.  

> Costs are irrelevant. I like the b/w interface though, and prefer
> PureData instead of Max/MSP. Also Max/MSP doesn't run on Linux *yet* :)

I, too I'm waiting for the port :).... GPL'd :-)

> I agree, but opensource software is often well documented as all
> software should be. I didn't know the toggle in PureData could also
> remember numbers, if I only knew many of such details earlier it would
> have saved me days.

ok, well, the documentation lacks certain details.  But it is fairly
complete.  You can learn a lot about programming with pd if you read the
manual and study the examples and help files.

this is, btw, the way one learns MaxMSP (if one does not want to
simply dive into ready-made solutions provided with the package).


> I totally agree. But as you've said yourself, programs like Rosegarden
> are years behind, and this was exactly my point, the reason why most
> people choose to use Windows and/or MacOS instead.

Yeah.  The thing is that I started using Linux because I wanted to get
away from the mainstream apps :)  I'm sorry but sometimes I assume
that everyone else wants to do just that, although I know I'm wrong.


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Tjeerd Sietsma wrote:

>>>Too bad there is no professional audio tool for linux yet, afaik.
>>
>>What is a professional audio tool?  Are you talking about sound
>>quality?  Or eye candy?  Or the aboundance of ready made solutions?
> 
> what I meant was that basic functions are well supported, but many
> advanced functions are absent in programs. e.g. I don't know any
> linux-tool with which you can morph spectra. This of course could also
> very well mean that I'm not that good in browsing the internet.

- Csound

does this for me since ages on virtually all platforms

- Pure-Data

- SMS
There was once this package but it seems to be morphed into a library 
called Clam, got to dig it myself.



The lack of instrument editors are obvious but on the other hand and 
according to the sales of the instrumentmanufacturer I like to ask, if 
they still needed. People starting now from the ground prefer using 
software and should get themself decent controling hardware.

The only point I dislike frankly in Linux is the lack of many drivers 
but as said before its not the Linux comunity to be blamed, its the 
manifacturers with their close-source-no-documentation-paranoia mentality.

Just to add some aspects and thoughts,

Malte

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> Oops.. with developers I meant people developing patches with PureData.
> PureData itself is already in beta stage, if not a finished product.
> It's the 'recommended' Windows installer that installs all those
> sometimes pre-alpha libraries that can make your system instable.
> Compared to Max/MSP you do spend more time patching your patches,
> because Max/MSP contains many prefabricated objects.
> 
> 
>>BTW, what do you mean by incomplete functionnality in PD?
> 
> Lack of prefabricated objects that allow faster development. Naturally
> you can make them yourself with PureData and/or C++, but that'll take
> longer.

People like Frank Barknecht and myself [from time to time] are busy 
building end-user "applications" in PD as educatinal tools, but I really 
prefer building things from low-level objects rather than cobbling 
together all the ready-made "blackboxes" in Max/MSP. It was a reason I 
disliked Reaktor so much: when I wanted to use a granulator, they had 
one or two "granulator objects" which you could send parameters to, but 
no way of getting inside the object to chnage its basic function. So I 
build my own in PD, and know exactly how they work and what I can change 
on the most basic levels. This way, I feel that the sound I make is my 
own creation, and not that I'm just twiddling someone else's buttons.

d.

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> As someone who is switching to Linux, I 
> am sure you'll appreciate it as well...
You too are right :) I guess I wasn't informed well enough. Looks like
microsound is actually paying me off ;)

> > Welcome to nmEdit. This project attempts to create a open/free editor for the Clavia Nord Modular and Micro Modular synthesizers. Please note that this site and the whole project is still in developing stage.
I'll sure give it a try. If anything else fails I can always use Windows
on a worn-out P2, but this solution will be even better. Now I have to
find a way to get everyting working with USB. Last time I tried for two
weeks and didn't get the RME Multiface to work properly, but that has
changed too.

(some people from the nord modular mailing list) decided to create and
free/open source editor.
>sdasdasd > http://nmedit.sourceforge.net/
That sounds cool but on the other hand (playing the devils advocate now)
they already have a finished editor for windows and mac that works fine.
But I'm encouraging this initiative for everybody switches to Linux
someday, if governments like the European one don't do nasty things with
software patents.

> > Notemidi is a device driver for MIDI output via the RS-232 serial port on notebook/laptop computers. Notemidi can be used with the MIDIator MS-124W interface, Roland Sound Canvas sound modules, or Yamaha MU-x series sound modules.
> > http://www.michaelminn.com/linux/notemidi
Nice, but most modern PC notebooks exchanged a serial port for USB
ports.. perhaps someone should buy the developers a pizza and a beer.

> The Nord example is interesting because it is a team of open source 
> developers *taking over* when a company decides not to develop software This company already did everything they could to serve their target area. They just didn't include the Linux community. Nor did they include BeOS or SGI users. If you want it, you have to make it yourself. And that is just what people do, because they can and for love for a product. The only thing you can hope for is that there will be enough volunteers to continue a project. But commercial companies also bring riscs. It's a matter of taste eventually.

> for its products anymore. I see this as an extremely interesting 
> development/intervention into the commercial music software & hardware 
> market. But the bottom line is that you really can't look us in the eye
> and tell us that it is not possible to use "professional" gear or 
> software under Linux. That is simply a myth born of ignorance.
Let me adjust my statement.. not _all_ professional hardware can be used
under Linux. Hm... it's getting kinda lame with your text before mine..
So when will there be a Linux variant of Kyma for the Capybara? :)

Greets,

Tjeerd Sietsma
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Tjeerd Sietsma wrote:

> what I meant was that basic functions are well supported, but many
> advanced functions are absent in programs. e.g. I don't know any
> linux-tool with which you can morph spectra. This of course could also
> very well mean that I'm not that good in browsing the internet.

FREQTWEAK
FreqTweak is a tool for FFT-based realtime audio spectral manipulation 
and display. It provides several algorithms for processing audio data in 
the frequency domain and a highly interactive GUI to manipulate the 
associated filters for each. It also provides high-resolution spectral 
displays in the form of scrolling-raster spectrograms and energy vs 
frequency plots displaying both pre- and post-processed spectra.
[Think: NI SPectral Delay!!!]
http://freqtweak.sourceforge.net/


CERES3
Ceres3 is a cut-and-paste spectral editor with musically enhanced 
graphic control over spectral activity of a sound file.
http://www.music.columbia.edu/~stanko/About_Ceres3.html

SND
Snd is a sound editor modelled loosely after Emacs and an old, 
sorely-missed PDP-10 sound editor named Dpysnd. It can accommodate any 
number of sounds each with any number of channels, and can be customized 
and extended using either Guile or Ruby.
[Snd has some basic FFT operations that could be customized into 
user-defined spectral operations.]
http://ccrma.stanford.edu/software/snd/snd/snd.html


and there are others....

d.

ps...Tjeerd, I have written to several instructors at the HKU about 
doing an open source audio workshop there, all without reply. I live in 
Utrecht, just right around the corner so to speak. Why doesn't anybody @ 
HKU answer my emails, if there are students like you interested in Linux 
audio?

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> > Too bad there is no professional audio tool for linux yet, afaik.
> What is a professional audio tool?  Are you talking about sound
> quality?  Or eye candy?  Or the aboundance of ready made solutions?
what I meant was that basic functions are well supported, but many
advanced functions are absent in programs. e.g. I don't know any
linux-tool with which you can morph spectra. This of course could also
very well mean that I'm not that good in browsing the internet.
 
> > Rezound looks
> > pretty neat, just like Audacity, but it just doesn't provide the needs
> > of pro's.
> 
> About 10 years ago I started using Sound Designer.  It was caonsidered
> a professional level sample editor.  I think the 2 above mentioned
> apps provide more functionnality.  I don't think, however, that the
> notion of professionalism changed radically in the past 10 years.
Within a year or so I'll step into thesame profession as you do.
Naturally the basic principles of our profession don't change, bus as
technology evolves it gets extended all the time.

> > E.g. you don't want to use it in a studio. 
> I have been in studios running Windoes.  You don't want to you use it
> in the studio.  I could never understand how people were able to keep
> PCs with windoes in the studio for other purposes than running
> WordPerfect.  I know only one Windows user who claims to have a stable
> system and is able to manage an audio latency at around 10ms.
> However, he lives much to far for me to actually go and check it out
> because I find it hard to believe.  My own experience with windows (I
> tried the free version of ProTools and cakewalk 9.1, I believe) was
> very disappointing.
You're right when you say that win98 with crappy protools free doens't
work well in a studio. Perhaps that's why digidesign quit with it.
Today, Windows 2000 is stable enough for studio-use. Combined with an
RME Hammerfall audio system I achieved a latency of 2x 1.5 ms (hardware)
+ 2ms latency (PureData) = 5 msec. latency from microphone to speaker.
I've used this settings several times live. And in such a case it surely
helps that you do not use your configuration for any other purpose than
audio.

> > Just like lovable PD it can
> > do a lot
> > but it isn't ready yet, PD's documentation is incomplete just like it's
> > functio-
> > nality. Developers spend most of the time getting it just to work. 
> Please, get in touch with reality.  The developers are constantly
> working on improving it.  Yes, pd has flaws.  So does commercial
> software.  The only difference is that if you find a bug or a flaw in
> an open source software there is a very strong chance that there will
> be a fix within days.  In case of commercial sofwtare you usually have
> to wait to the next update or upgrade and sometimes you have to pay
> extra just to have a vital bug squished (or a few plus a new feature
> thrown in to soap your eyes).  But there are herds of musicians/artists
> using pd in
> production.
Oops.. with developers I meant people developing patches with PureData.
PureData itself is already in beta stage, if not a finished product.
It's the 'recommended' Windows installer that installs all those
sometimes pre-alpha libraries that can make your system instable.
Compared to Max/MSP you do spend more time patching your patches,
because Max/MSP contains many prefabricated objects.

> BTW, what do you mean by incomplete functionnality in PD?
Lack of prefabricated objects that allow faster development. Naturally
you can make them yourself with PureData and/or C++, but that'll take
longer.

> 
> > In
> > contrast
> > to commercial applications like Max/MSP. 
> 
> I started usig Max/MSP in the MacOS8.x days.  But the time of MacOS9
> but well before MacOSX I found MaxMSP rather unstable for live
> performance.  Everyone at my school was using it and everyone was
> struggling to make the thing survive a performance.  Everyone had the
> unpleasant experience of MaxMSP hanging the whole system during a
> performance.  Perhaps that is what you think is related to
> professionalism but I quickly found that I could run an audio patch on
> my linux box with pd for _days_ without shutting off the audio and I'd
> have no crash, no glitch.  For me, the choice was obvious.
You're right of course, stability is _the_ #1 requirement for live
performance. In this case PureData is a winner. Today even under
Windows.
I'm not very familiar with the overall stability of Max/MSP these days,
I hear it crashes a bit too often under Windows.. I assume it runs
stable under MacOSX.

> I am not saying that pd is perfect.  It in fact needs a major overhaul
> of some code but none of the developers claims it to be a professional
> grade sofwtare, either.  It's still in alpha, experimental release.
> But it costs you nothing.
Costs are irrelevant. I like the b/w interface though, and prefer
PureData instead of Max/MSP. Also Max/MSP doesn't run on Linux *yet* :)

> > This is why serious musicians
> > and audio-
> > philes still use Windows and/or MacOS.
> Because those have been around for a long time and spend a lot of
> money for marketing campaigns.  And one of those comes pre-installed
> when you buy a computer at your favorite store.  And you are not given
> a choice!  If you want linux, you have to install it yourself or ask
> specifically for linux at the retail store (and not all of them
> provide linux systems).
True. When you buy a laptop like I did.. well.. I still had to pay for
Windows, couldn't get the device without it. Some harddisk manufacturers
sell harddisks with Linspire (Commercial Linux distro) pre-installed.
Another example is my previous motherboard from abit, it came with a
linux distro with all the modules already in the kernel. So when you
search the market a bit I'm sure alternatives can be found.

> It is true that serious sofwtare
> companies provide well packaged products with aboundant
> documentation.  They have the cash for it.  Those musicians who just
> want to plug and p[l][r]ay will naturally choose the mainstream OS
> with mainstream applications.  But that does not make them any more
> serious than those who want to venture into the OS and apps that give
> them freedom and a DIY environment for setting up their virtual gear
> the way they want.
I agree, but opensource software is often well documented as all
software should be. I didn't know the toggle in PureData could also
remember numbers, if I only knew many of such details earlier it would
have saved me days.

> > Another reason is that most hardware manufacturers provide drivers for
> > Windows
> > and Macintosh only. 
> > This means that with only linux you can't program
> > e.g. your
> > Roland synth or Nord Modular.
> derek covered that in his post.
Thanks for the tip, I'll search for his posts. I still have to get my
XV, Midisport and Modular working under Linux. Finally I'm giving it
another try :-)

> > In this perspecive linux is like a decennium behind commercial
> > alternatives.
> Not linux.  Linux is in fact a very stable and efficient OS.  Some
> audio applications are behind.  Rosegarden is what Cubase was about 5-6
> years
> ago.  Ardour has a feature-set more attractive than Nuendo (minus the
> MIDI sequencing) and soon it will be stable enough to actually use it
> in production.  Lilypond beats the socks off any notation package
> currently available if you can stand the text based input (although
> Rosegarden and NoteEdit are good frontends).  And is well documented,
> too.  There are many other examples.  When you say that this or that
> sofwtare is so&so many years behind the commercial alternative keep in
> mind that usually it's only a handful of developers working on it who
> don't have the budget.  I think this is impressive and merits some
> kind of user support.
I totally agree. But as you've said yourself, programs like Rosegarden
are years behind, and this was exactly my point, the reason why most
people choose to use Windows and/or MacOS instead.

> > I myself am thinking of switching from Windows to linux permanently now
> Good luck!
Currently installing Gentoo Linux.. compiling KDE 3.2.2 for P4.. I just
*love* it!

Greetings,

Tjeerd Sietsma
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Tjeerd,

I'm not picking on you, I promise! ;-)
It's just there was a lot of uninformed opinion in your post, and I'd 
like to set the record straight. As someone who is switching to Linux, I 
am sure you'll appreciate it as well...

Tjeerd Sietsma wrote:

> This means that with only linux you can't program
> e.g. your
> Roland synth or Nord Modular.
> In this perspecive linux is like a decennium behind commercial
> alternatives.

Think again:

> Welcome to nmEdit. This project attempts to create a open/free editor for the Clavia Nord Modular and Micro Modular synthesizers. Please note that this site and the whole project is still in developing stage.
> 
> On 2 December Clavia announced the following:
> Despite earlier information, Clavia has today decided to stop the work of the software upgrade for the Nord Modular system. Instead, Clavia will focus its development resources on new projects.
> 
> And thus we (some people from the nord modular mailing list) decided to create and free/open source editor.
> http://nmedit.sourceforge.net/

Coming soon to a Nord near you.

Or what about this:

> nordqt is a open source editor for Clavia Nord Modular synthesizers. The development language is C++ and chosen UI toolkit is Qt. nordqt is being developed under Linux with Qt/X11 free. The license is GPL. 
> http://www.iti.fi/kate/nordqt.php

Or this?

> Notemidi is a device driver for MIDI output via the RS-232 serial port on notebook/laptop computers. Notemidi can be used with the MIDIator MS-124W interface, Roland Sound Canvas sound modules, or Yamaha MU-x series sound modules.
> http://www.michaelminn.com/linux/notemidi

The Nord example is interesting because it is a team of open source 
developers *taking over* when a company decides not to develop software 
for its products anymore. I see this as an extremely interesting 
development/intervention into the commercial music software & hardware 
market. But the bottom line is that you really can't look us in the eye 
and tell us that it is not possible to use "professional" gear or 
software under Linux. That is simply a myth born of ignorance.

d.

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Physical Computing Workshop with Eva Sjuve
at BEK, Bergen, Norway, July 19-23, 2004

Pure Data Workshop with Malte Steiner
at BEK, Bergen, Norway, July 24-25

* * * * *

Physical Computing Workshop with Eva Sjuve

The workshop is aimed at artists and musicians who are interested in
physical interaction with the computer, a way to interact, by not using
the keyboard and the mouse. In the workshop we use a
microcontroller, BasicX-24, programming it using Basic language, and
use it as a tool for interaction with various kinds of sensors. The
workshop is basic, no programming or knowledge in electronics is
necessary, but preferred.

To attend the workshop is free, the participant has to pay for their own
travel and lodging to Bergen, Norway. The participants will be able to
keep their project from the workshop.

To participate or for more info send an email to:
xxx@xxx.xx
And include a motivation to participate in the workshop.

The workshop is limited to 7 participants.


Eva Sjuve has been working with computer-based projects since the
80's, and is building and performing with physical interfaces. She has
been exhibiting in Europe, US, South America, Asia and Australia,
since mid 80's. Eva Sjuve studied microcontrollers at The Physics
Department at Lund University, Sweden, and later at The Interactive
Telecommunications Program at New York University. She holds a MA
in Art Theory and Master's studies in Drama/Theatre/Film, Lund
University, Sweden and a MPS at ITP, New York University. She also
studied at The School of Visual Arts in New York, and at Centre de
Creation Musicale Iannis Xenakis (CCMIX), Paris, France

For more info:
http://www.bek.no/~eva
http://moomonkey.com

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Pure Data Workshop with Malte Steiner

Pure Data (PD) is a real-time graphical programming environment for
audio, video, and graphical processing, originally developed by Miller
Puckette. This workshop is aimed at beginners and will include
installation of PD/GEM, serial control from a microcontroller, building of
a basic sound patch and introduction to GEM (an OpenGL and video
extension for Pd)

Pure Data is a free software and can be used on Mac OSX, Linux,
Windows 32
http://pure-data.iem.at/about/
http://www-crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/software.html

Malte Steiner (Hamburg), media artist, programmer and developer. He
has been developing interactive art installations using PD, MAX/MSP as
well as projects for theater, web and mobile phones in Europe and in
Asia. Steiner is also an electronic musician with performances in
South America and Europe with his Elektronengehirn project. He has
been holding workshops and lectures in Germany, US and in the UK.
http://block4.com/

more info:
xxx@xxx.xx

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Bergen Center for Electronic Arts
C.Sundtgt.55
5004 Bergen, Norway
phone: +47-55233080
http://www.bek.no

The workshops are supported by PNEK, (Production Network for
Electronic Arts, Norway) http://pnek.no/

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