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Now that we're on the topic, I'd like to ask for any experiences or opinions people might have with the following books dealing with computer music: - Charles Dodge and Thomas A. Jerse: Computer Music: Synthesis, Composition, and Performance - Composing Music with Computers (Music Technology Series) - Sound Synthesis and Sampling (Music Technology Series) I've heard some recommendations for each one, but haven't seen them pop up on this list. I've yet to read any book dealing with computer music, and I was wondering if one of these would be a better starting point than Roads' CMT? Or if CMT is the preferred first read, whether it would still be worthwhile to read some of these for something CMT did not cover... Visa --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Jul 1 01:03:02 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30958-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 30 Jun 2004 21:03:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 21:02:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 77893 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 01 Jul 2004 01:03:21 +0000 Received: (qmail 77882 invoked from network); Thu, 01 Jul 2004 01:03:21 +0000 Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 21:03:18 -0400 From: precursor <xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] synth toys In-reply-to: <BD062F92.203E9%xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BD08DB16.2328%xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.0.6 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx on 6/28/04 11:27 PM, Kim Cascone at xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx wrote: > I'm looking for a small analog synth with a keyboard, lots of knobs and a > built-in speaker...battery and/or AC powered is ok...something like the > monophonic SH-101 but smaller...a kit is ok...something like the > Technosaurus Microcon II but with a keyboard would be perfect... > as I've not been following the synth hardware market for a long time I am > unaware of what strange little synth toys might be lurking about...anyone > recommend something? > thanks in advance! > KIM > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > micro korg i believe ,it small, sounds good too.. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Jul 1 00:51:14 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30957-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.109]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 30 Jun 2004 20:51:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 20:51:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 72678 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 01 Jul 2004 00:51:33 +0000 Received: (qmail 72668 invoked from network); Thu, 01 Jul 2004 00:51:32 +0000 Date: Thu, 01 Jul 2004 01:51:29 +0100 From: murray ward <xx_xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Books on DSP? X-Originating-IP: [81.155.252.161] X-Sender: xx_xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Bcc: Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Originating-Email: [xx_xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Jul 2004 00:51:29.0378 (UTC) FILETIME=[8B8A2C20:01C45F05] Thanks Malte, I have the Computer Music book and it's very good but not enough anymore. I tried buying the csound book over a year ago but amazon (uk) couldn't get it. There seems to be some good priced secondhand ones that would be cheaper to pay postage on fram the states. The DSP primer I hadn't come across and looks very interesting, perhaps I can get this second hand also. Thanks for your help, much appreciated. Best Murray >From: Malte Steiner <xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> >Reply-To: xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx >To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> >Subject: Re: [microsound] Books on DSP? >Date: Thu, 01 Jul 2004 00:54:07 +0200 > >maybe my recommended booksite is from interest: > >http://block4.com/research/edu/literature.html > >Cheers, > >Malte >-- >Malte Steiner >media art + development >-www.block4.com- > >next event/ lecture: >pure-data workshop 24.-25. july BEK, Bergen, Norway >new releases: >elektronengehirn >softwareart on cdr magazine tinah#2: http://www.thisisnotahomepage.com > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >website: http://www.microsound.org > _________________________________________________________________ Want to block unwanted pop-ups? 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Wed Jun 30 22:53:49 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30956-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 30 Jun 2004 18:53:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 18:51:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 36179 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 22:54:07 +0000 Received: (qmail 36169 invoked from network); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 22:54:06 +0000 Date: Thu, 01 Jul 2004 00:54:07 +0200 From: Malte Steiner <xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Books on DSP? In-reply-to: <xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> Organization: block 4 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040514 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx maybe my recommended booksite is from interest: http://block4.com/research/edu/literature.html Cheers, Malte -- Malte Steiner media art + development -www.block4.com- next event/ lecture: pure-data workshop 24.-25. july BEK, Bergen, Norway new releases: elektronengehirn softwareart on cdr magazine tinah#2: http://www.thisisnotahomepage.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Jun 30 21:29:40 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30955-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.114]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 30 Jun 2004 17:29:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 17:29:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 8936 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 21:29:59 +0000 Received: (qmail 8925 invoked from network); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 21:29:59 +0000 Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 14:29:52 -0700 From: Jorge Bachmann <xxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Madrid page is finally up! In-reply-to: <BD082B04.2052C%xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.618) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <BD082B04.2052C%xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx i want to thank ALL the people involved to make happen the madrid project! mill gracias paz J21 On Jun 30, 2004, at 8:32 AM, Kim Cascone wrote: > microsounders, > - after a period of finding, training and coordinating our new web > team we > finally have the Madrid page up...check it out! > http://microsound.org/madrid/ > - obviously now that the kinks are being worked out new projects are > expected to go live much quicker...so I will announce new a project in > the > next few weeks... > major kudos to our new web team!! thanks to all and good work! :) > KIM justino aka jorge bachmann sculpture-photography-sound P.O.Box 15953 San Francisco, CA 94115-0953 M-415-706-9629 W-415-750-3517 http://anihilo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Jun 30 21:16:12 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30954-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.110]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 30 Jun 2004 17:16:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 17:16:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 2461 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 21:16:30 +0000 Received: (qmail 2451 invoked from network); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 21:16:30 +0000 Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 17:16:11 -0400 From: Mike Hansen <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] CKLN FM's Whynot Jazz playlist for June 23, 2004 To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.553) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > Dear Artist and Label > > Welcome to the radio program Whynot Jazz on Toronto's CKLN FM 88.1. > Heard Every Wednesday Morning from 7am-11am est, 1pm thru most of > Europe and noon in the UK. Available around the world at: > > www.ckln.fm > > Here is the playlist from the last Whynot Jazz Program. Please note > that radio program, hosted by Mike Hansen, takes an outside > examination of new improvised and jazz musics. Whynotjazz is one of > the very few voices for progessive new music heard in Toronto or > around the world. > > Why Not? > 2004/06/23 > > > Artist > Song Title > Album Title > Label > > > > Henri Pousseur > First Parabolic Mix > 4 Parabolic Mixes > Sub Rosa > > > > Ig Henneman String Quartet > Cassettone > Piazza Pia > Wig > > > > Vandermark 5 > Outside Ticket > Elements of Style > Atavistic > > > > Carlos Actis Dato > Wake Up > Tomorrow Night Gig > Leo Records > > > > Michael Bates > Intervention/and then there was Luz > Outside Sources > Pommerac Records > > > > Samworth/Dylan Vander Schyff/Tanquay/Falaise > Oh My! > The Unexpected One > Ambieance Magnestiques > > > > Martin Siewert/Martin Brandlmayr > Is This Love > Too Beautiful to Burn > Erstwhile Records > > > > Phillip Jeck > Third Parobolic Mix > 4 Parobolic Mixes > Sub Rosa > > > > Dutton/Minton/Blonk/Moss/Makigami > Six Cobbings > Five Men Singinbg > Victo > > > > Dave Dyment/Lee Renaldo > Fire 3 > New Life After Fire > Art Metropole > > > > Hans Koch > w/Roger Turner > London Duos and Trios > Intakt Records > > > > Carlos Actis Dato Quartet > Ponzo-Ponzi-Po > Bagdad Boogie > Splasc(h) > > > > Koch Shultz Studer w/El Nil Troop > Vice Versa > Heavy Cairo Traffic > Intuition records > > > > Knyaz Miskin > Summer Session 02 #4 > demo > independent > > > > Mike Hansen/Pau Torres > untilted #3 > june 21/04 > independent > > > > PSI > Head First into Flames > Black american Flag > Evolving Ear > > > > Charlotte Hug > Steinfels > Mauerraum Wandraum > Unit Records > > > > David Manson > All Clear now > Beast > Emit Series > > > > Smash and Teeny > Looking Glass > Gathering > Spool > > > > Trio S > Majorca/Coda > Trio S > Zitherine > > > Your support is necessary in keeping this voice for the music current. > Please feel free to forward music to the address below. Thanks again > for your support. Keep Listening > > Thanks > Mike > > > Mike Hansen > CKLN FM 88.1 > Whynot Jazz Program > 79 Benson Ave. > Toronto,On > Canada > M6G 2H7 > xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Jun 30 20:12:32 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30953-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 30 Jun 2004 16:12:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 16:11:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 69750 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 20:12:51 +0000 Received: (qmail 69740 invoked from network); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 20:12:51 +0000 Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 22:10:47 +0200 From: IMPOSTURAS <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Madrid page is finally up! To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Netscape Webmail Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: es Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: es Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Thanks Kim & all Good job. Congrats. imposturas ----- Mensaje Original ----- De: Kim Cascone <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Fecha: Miercoles, Junio 30, 2004 5:32 pm Asunto: [microsound] Madrid page is finally up! > microsounders, > - after a period of finding, training and coordinating our new web > team we > finally have the Madrid page up...check it out! > http://microsound.org/madrid/ > - obviously now that the kinks are being worked out new projects are > expected to go live much quicker...so I will announce new a > project in the > next few weeks... > major kudos to our new web team!! thanks to all and good work! :) > KIM > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Jun 30 19:59:41 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30951-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.83]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 30 Jun 2004 15:59:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 15:59:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 61844 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 19:59:59 +0000 Received: (qmail 61815 invoked from network); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 19:59:56 +0000 Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 16:05:14 -0400 (EDT) From: Neil Wiernik <xxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] [REMINDER] modular systems FM cd launch at phoniq july 2 2004 To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> Organization: The Dreaming Electronic Community Network Inc. MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at dreaming.org X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx friday july 2 2004 phoniq hosts a launch for the ckut benefit cd < modular systems FM > featuring : pheek - live - www.epsilonlab.com naw - live - www.noisefactoryrecords.com zen - live - ms zaandam khanfucius - dj - panospria.com cyan - dj - modular systems ckut fm jose garcia - visuals - fifteen pounds all happening at casa del popolo, 4873 st-laurent for the small amount of $5.00 $10.00 including cd all proceeds go to ckut for more info visit www.phoniq.net On July 2nd 2004, the phoniq collective hosts the launch of the <modular systems FM> compilation. <FM> is a benefit cd for ckut-fm, featuring 7 tracks donated by montreal electronic music artists. All proceeds from the sales of this cd goes towards the operating budget for the radio station. the event will showcase 3 of the <FM> artists: PHEEK, whose second release on epsilonlab records, "les autres promeneurs", broadens his journey in music making into innovative yet dance friendly realms. NAW, noise factory recording artist and phoniq resident, will immerse you in experimental and deep dub influnced techno and house. ZEN, recently embarked from the MS Zaandam, melds together unexpected elements of dub, experimental sounds and electronica. phoniq residents khanfucius and cyan will open and close the night with dj sets, and local projection artist jose garcia will construct a visual environment via various projection sources. BIOS/INFO phoniq ------ www.phoniq.net phoniq is a collective of individuals dedicated to promoting bleeding edge electronic art in interesting variable environments, with an emphasis on exposing aural and visual talent that has not yet been exposed to the electronic arts communities of montreal. We aim to showcase upstart music producers, djs, record labels and emerging visual artists all working in electronic realms. Our foremost goal is to showcase off the wall and raw genres of music and visual electronic arts- not just those that are currently "en vogue" or will be shortly. The concept for phoniq came together through the chance meeting of 2 active members of the montreal/canadian electronic music and digital arts community: ckut-fm dj/host cyan and dub glitch techno producer naw. phoniq has grown out of the combined histories of these 2 individuals. naw brings the clonk legacy that he created 6 years ago in toronto, which hosted such artists as: monolake, kit clayton and sutekh. cyan brings her ongoing involvement in community radio (modular systems), event coordinating and dj talents. ckut 90.3 fm ------------- www.ckut.ca CKUT 90.3 FM McGill Radio Inc. is a non-profit campus community radio station that provides alternative music, news and spoken word programming to the city of Montreal and surrounding areas. We broadcast 24 hours a day, every day. Hear us at 90.3 MHz on your FM dial, or 91.7 by cable, or tune in by Real Audio over the Internet. modular systems is an electronic music magazine show featuring new music and interviews with local and international artists. tune in every second Tuesday at 3pm. pheek ----- www.pheek.com epsilonlab, thinner Born in 1972, Jean-Patrice Rmillard was immediately attracted to music. His parents recall the day when he discovered how to use a turntable and from there on out, he would listen to old rock records endlessly. Perhaps the most important discovery for JP was when his babysitter gave him a Bee-Gees record for his birthday and he was introduced to dance music. JP became interested in acid house in the late 80s and raves in early 90s, inspiring him to DJ his own radio shows in Sherbrooke, Qubec. From his college years to university, he played techno, house and anything exciting to people whose ears werent as close to the ground. Upon moving to Montreal in 1997 to study computer science, JP met Mateo Murphy and found they shared similar musical interests. After performing a show with Gez Varley, Mateo and JP decided to work on a live concept of their own, based on improvising beats on the fly and mixing in other synthesized sonic textures. It was at this point that JP adopted the name of Pheek after a Richie Hawtin/Plastikman performance at Medialounge, a show that would forever change his perspective on music. After further honing their live show together, Pheek and Mateo opened for Chain Reaction at the FCMM in 1999. They were spotted by Hautec and offered to release a 12 inch marking a turning point in their fledgling careers. The few years that followed saw proposed releases on Hybrid Structure and collaborations with Mitchell Akiyama on various projects a creative period that proved a catalyst for JPs later success. The next pivotal point in Pheeks career was meeting Eloi Brunelle and subsequently being invited to join to the Epsilonlab media collective. JP played with them since the very first night of their existence and for almost every show to follow. His first release for Epsilonlab, 2002s Paysages Matriciels, was a critical success and was nominated for Quebecs prestigious ADISQ music awards. Later that year, Pheek and Eloi toured Europe together, playing shows in Paris, Lyon, Switzerland, Cologne and London. This trip opened up new possibilities for the duo and they completed a second European tour the following year. Recently, JP teamed up with Thinner, one of the more recognized MP3 labels. As well as contributing tracks to Thinners compilations and releasing Tabisuru Kokoro in late 2003, he has coordinated many of their live events, including a Thinner vs. Epsilonlab showcase. As a veteran of the Epsilonlab team, Pheek has released his second album with the label. This will mark the beginning of a new era in the Montreal based label as they will launch a mp3 department. naw --- www.noisefactoryrecords.com aka Neil Wiernik (b.1967) Montreal native Neil Wiernik began his explorations in electronic music making as early as 1988. Known to push the boundaries of his musical form from designing new or manipulating existing sound making devices and software to creative uses of production environments and sound sources, naws music is a blend of sound manipulation/design, experimental musics and dub-tech rhythms, which on the surface sound quite simple, but incorporate a number of touches that steer this artist away from being simply another minimal techno or experimental laptop artist. He combines post-house, dubby minimal techno, microsound and thick ambience, to create his own version of deep techno, house and other electronic laptop orineted musics. Neil has released music on various national and international record labels, including releases on Noise Factory, Worthy, Complot, Piehead, A/S Systems, Wabi and Future Rhetoric. As naw, Neil has performed extensively along side a variety of national and international artists both in and outside of Canada. August 2004 naw will release his follow up noise factory records full length record called: "green nights orange days", this record finds Neil at his deepest and dubbiest yet, the release of this record will co inside with a series of North American and European tour dates through out the late summer and fall of 2004. zen --- ms zaandam zen nakamura currently finished a contract aboard a cruise boat as a jazz drummer. While he played all styles of music from the mambo, the cha-cha, swing and other typical ballroom and lounge music, he was composing varied styles of electronic music. Though a dub-reggae/drum'nbass head at heart, his studies in electroacoustics and love of most types of music influenced his infusion of genres all across the board. jose garcia ----------- fifteen pounds Life on the train, or walking in the park or watching the news.....Lying in the grass...that sort of stuff, vultures feeding too. Geronimo's dusty desert brawl in panavision then transfered to super 8. the walls flap, figures sail down a hall with brief cases. It all started in front of the Chateau Laurier, Ottawa. a few years later and something keeps me looking around the corner. khanfucius / scant intone -------------------------- Constantine Katsiris (b. 1980 - Saskatoon, Canada) Constantine has been active in exploring the electronic arts since the early 1990s. He became involved in the BBS scene at a young age, tracking music modules and drawing ascii art. By 1996 he chose the alias Khanfucius and began as a DJ, playing an assortment of strange, abstract and ambient music at local clubs, raves and other events in the prairies. His active involvement in the scene spawned many projects, including the event production company Uninhibited Sound System with his fellow DJs and the artistic collective Panospria. Musical side projects around this time included playing laptop and synths in the improv electronic band Mandelbrot Set and co-producing an album as Break Fluid with Sasafras of the hip hop group Isosceles. His first solo album as Khanfucius, The Phuzzillogikal Basement Tapes 96-98, was compiled and released independently prior to moving to Dublin, Ireland in 1999. This release caught the attention of radio DJ Keith Downey who invited him to co-host his show on Kiss FM called Psychonavigation. Keith would go on to start Psychonavigation Records and release music by Constantine and his Canadian associates. Upon his return to Canada, he took up residence in Ontario and studied in the fields of audio and multimedia. Since 2001, his focus has been fixed on his experimental music and sound-art project as Scant Intone. Currently living in Montreal, he is working on upcoming solo and collaborative works as well as coordinating projects for both Panospria and Psychonavigation Records. cyan ---- www.traktion.com (aka Corina MacDonald) Montreal based DJ, radio host and budding techno producer cyan was born and raised in the western provinces of Canada. In 1994 while living in Scotland she she was introduced to the dj culture associated with electronic dance music and was inspired to begin exploring the art of djing. When she returned to Canada, she decided that Montreal would be an ideal city to set her roots down and start exploring this approach to music. DJ culture was not a foreign concept to her and it was a logical extension of her ongoing work in community radio, which began in 1990 in Calgary and continued in Montreal from 1996 on. She now co-hosts CKUT FM^s Modular Systems: an electronic music magazine program. Her sound can best be described as layered raw & funky, dense & deep techno rhythms, influenced by the techno and house sounds of Detroit. cyan can be found regularly playing at various venues in and around Montreal, and has played alongside such artists as naw, noah pred, grannyark and lynne t. She has recently released her 6th independently produced DJ mix called The Gravity Protocol, which has been received in a very positive light by reviewers and techno fans alike. She is hard at work in the studio concocting her own variation on electronic dance music. cyan is involved in the phoniq collective, where she co-curates and organizes independent electronic music events featuring local producers and visual artists, and can be seen regularly at these events working the wheels of steel. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Jun 30 20:02:30 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30952-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 30 Jun 2004 16:02:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 16:01:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 64812 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 20:02:46 +0000 Received: (qmail 64801 invoked from network); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 20:02:46 +0000 Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 21:02:49 +0100 From: murray <xx_xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Books on DSP? X-Originating-IP: [81.155.252.161] X-Sender: xx_xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_axWjWMntYTlelT1NDuURuw)" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Originating-Email: [xx_xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Jun 2004 20:02:43.0813 (UTC) FILETIME=[34B2C150:01C45EDD] --Boundary_(ID_axWjWMntYTlelT1NDuURuw) Content-Type: text/plain; Charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Wordered if anyone could recomend a book on DSP in a musical setting. I'm only just starting to look at DSP and have found some usefull stuff on the web but whilst looking at various textbooks recently they all seemed a lot more concerned with communications technology, RADAR and SONAR type uses etc. I have no engineering background so learning the math and equations would be a lot easier from a musical perspective. The microsound book looks good "offer[ing] composition theory, historical accounts, technical overviews, acoustical experiments, descriptions of musical works, and aesthetic reflections" but something similar concerned with DSP would be the kind of thing I'm after. Thanks for your help Best Murray (dj_spleenbaby) Also a little bit of self promotion. A friend and I have been doing improvised guitar for a while now and are starting to improvised electronic/laptop stuff aswell. Not all of the content is finished yet but chek out (if yr intrested) www.thelowsandthehighs.co.uk www.plexusmusic.co.uk Cheers --Boundary_(ID_axWjWMntYTlelT1NDuURuw)-- From ???@??? Wed Jun 30 19:08:42 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30950-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 30 Jun 2004 15:08:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 15:07:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 38945 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 19:09:01 +0000 Received: (qmail 38935 invoked from network); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 19:09:01 +0000 Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 12:08:57 -0700 From: "Rudolph A. Carrera" <xxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] summer book lists? In-reply-to: <xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: xxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> Organization: Carrera-Linn Cultural Exchange MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7 (Windows/20040616) X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Murray; My recommendation is to pick up the Collected Non-Fictions on Penguin. It's a great compendium of his film reviews, general reports, history, et cetera. I did read Brodie's Report as well. I enjoyed it. I actually used a story that he wrote, an apocryphal story of Abel forgiving Cain, as an intellectual exercise in one of my classes. It worked out quite well. Considering how well-read most of the microsound listers are, I figure Borges should be a natural for the folks there. I have a deep love for theology, surrealism and history, as well as music, so Borges seems to be a perfect writer, although I have to admit that he didn't sink in for me until the third reading of some of his works... Best, Rudy murray wrote: >Rudy, > >I must admit that I didn't really know about his non-fictions untill now. >I've had a quick look on the web and they sound very interesting, >particularly his film criticism. Let me know more if you wish. > >I got a great book out of my local library which was quite a large, >collected chunk of his output in one book. I read the Aleph and quite a few >others which I enjoyed. I found I needed a break though. I love his writing >syle and, though I don't yet know a lot about the way Borges worked, the way >he retold stories is absolutely amazing. The problem I found was that after >2 or 3 books worth it seemed a bit flat, all played out one level. This >seems counterintuitive to the mazes and labyrinths, the works are clever and >rich, but I think I need to come back to him again after a while. Also I was >clocking up fines and my girlfriend wasn't happy that I still hadn't started >reading the Sarte books she bought me for my birthday last year (lack of >time rather than will). > >Have you read "Brodies report"? This sounds interesting. It would also be >good to see any changes in his development after a 20 year gap. > >regards >Murray > > > >>Murray; >> >>Have you read the non-fictions yet? I've been hooken on it since >>returning from Macedonia some months ago. Borges' books are almost >>impossible for me to put down. >> >>Best, >> >>Rudy >> >> >>--------------------------------------------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >>For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >>website: http://www.microsound.org >> >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Jun 30 18:58:54 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30948-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 30 Jun 2004 14:58:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 14:57:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 30500 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 18:59:12 +0000 Received: (qmail 30490 invoked from network); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 18:59:12 +0000 Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 19:59:14 +0100 From: murray <xx_xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] summer book lists? X-Originating-IP: [81.155.252.161] X-Sender: xx_xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Originating-Email: [xx_xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Jun 2004 18:59:10.0399 (UTC) FILETIME=[53B9F4F0:01C45ED4] Rudy, I must admit that I didn't really know about his non-fictions untill now. I've had a quick look on the web and they sound very interesting, particularly his film criticism. Let me know more if you wish. I got a great book out of my local library which was quite a large, collected chunk of his output in one book. I read the Aleph and quite a few others which I enjoyed. I found I needed a break though. I love his writing syle and, though I don't yet know a lot about the way Borges worked, the way he retold stories is absolutely amazing. The problem I found was that after 2 or 3 books worth it seemed a bit flat, all played out one level. This seems counterintuitive to the mazes and labyrinths, the works are clever and rich, but I think I need to come back to him again after a while. Also I was clocking up fines and my girlfriend wasn't happy that I still hadn't started reading the Sarte books she bought me for my birthday last year (lack of time rather than will). Have you read "Brodies report"? This sounds interesting. It would also be good to see any changes in his development after a 20 year gap. regards Murray > Murray; > > Have you read the non-fictions yet? I've been hooken on it since > returning from Macedonia some months ago. Borges' books are almost > impossible for me to put down. > > Best, > > Rudy > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Jun 30 18:57:29 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30947-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 30 Jun 2004 14:57:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 14:54:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 29189 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 18:57:48 +0000 Received: (qmail 29179 invoked from network); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 18:57:47 +0000 Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 11:57:43 -0700 From: "Rudolph A. Carrera" <xxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Madrid page is finally up! In-reply-to: <001301c45ed2$c8113310$xxxxxxxx@xxxxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: xxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> Organization: Carrera-Linn Cultural Exchange MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7 (Windows/20040616) X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <BD082B04.2052C%xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> <001301c45ed2$c8113310$xxxxxxxx@xxxxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx The designer was extremely tasteful. Good job. Rudy Joakim Lindén wrote: >Very easily navigated, very nice, very...respectful. > >Good job! >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Kim Cascone" <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> >To: "microsound_list" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> >Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2004 5:32 PM >Subject: [microsound] Madrid page is finally up! > > > > >>microsounders, >>- after a period of finding, training and coordinating our new web team we >>finally have the Madrid page up...check it out! >>http://microsound.org/madrid/ >>- obviously now that the kinks are being worked out new projects are >>expected to go live much quicker...so I will announce new a project in the >>next few weeks... >>major kudos to our new web team!! thanks to all and good work! :) >>KIM >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Jun 30 18:47:46 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30945-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 30 Jun 2004 14:47:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 14:46:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 20377 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 18:48:00 +0000 Received: (qmail 20364 invoked from network); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 18:48:00 +0000 Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 20:48:05 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Joakim_Lind=E9n?= <xxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Madrid page is finally up! To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <001301c45ed2$c8113310$xxxxxxxx@xxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <BD082B04.2052C%xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Very easily navigated, very nice, very...respectful. Good job! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kim Cascone" <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: "microsound_list" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2004 5:32 PM Subject: [microsound] Madrid page is finally up! > microsounders, > - after a period of finding, training and coordinating our new web team we > finally have the Madrid page up...check it out! > http://microsound.org/madrid/ > - obviously now that the kinks are being worked out new projects are > expected to go live much quicker...so I will announce new a project in the > next few weeks... > major kudos to our new web team!! thanks to all and good work! :) > KIM > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Jun 30 19:02:33 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30949-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.114]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 30 Jun 2004 15:02:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 15:02:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 34755 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 19:02:51 +0000 Received: (qmail 34743 invoked from network); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 19:02:51 +0000 Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 11:31:32 -0700 From: Kim Cascone <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] microsound TWiki server! To: microsound_list <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BD085514.20585%xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.0.6 X-Loop-Detect: 1 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx I started a page on our new TWiki server (thanks John!) where we can post the book lists we've been posting to the email list...check out: http://microsound.nexthop.net/bin/view.cgi/Main/microsoundBookList you must register FIRST before you can change or edit a page so make sure you go to the registration page to register before attempting to post something have fun...FYI: help files on TWiki are in abundance via this site so RTFM before posting q's to the list! ;) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Jun 30 18:15:38 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30942-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.110]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 30 Jun 2004 14:15:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 14:15:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 183 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 18:15:57 +0000 Received: (qmail 173 invoked from network); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 18:15:57 +0000 Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 14:20:04 -0400 From: Al C <xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Madrid page is finally up! In-reply-to: <000e01c45ec1$97917d50$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BD087C94.65E4%xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx on 6/30/04 12:45 PM, pyo.p at xxx.x@xxxx.xx wrote: > really nice page. congrats ! > p. I second that. Very nice! omnid --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Jun 30 18:48:03 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30946-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.86]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 30 Jun 2004 14:48:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 14:48:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 21280 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 18:48:20 +0000 Received: (qmail 21266 invoked from network); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 18:48:20 +0000 Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 11:19:36 -0700 From: Kim Cascone <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Steinbr=?ISO-8859-1?B?/A==?=chel, Kahn & Cascone To: microsound_list <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BD085248.20581%xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.0.6 X-Loop-Detect: 1 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Steinbrüchel, Kahn & Cascone have a CD of material that was recorded in Ralph's studio in Zurich over the past couple of years...it's a collection of somber reptilian atmospheres evoking the sound of dragging rusty chains against the hulls of sunken ships...ok, maybe this description is a little poetic but it is very glitchy and ambient... if there are any interested labels out in microsound land that want a copy to evaluate please contact me or Jason Kahn <xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> off list... thanks! KIM --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Jun 30 18:18:20 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30943-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 30 Jun 2004 14:18:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 14:15:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 2079 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 18:18:38 +0000 Received: (qmail 2064 invoked from network); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 18:18:36 +0000 Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 19:18:39 +0100 From: David Newman <xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Madrid page is finally up! To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <003201c45ece$ac77c1e0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <BD087C94.65E4%xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Yes its looking good - i hope to be able to contribute to the next project I had problems accessing the drop box for this one Well done Kim & all David @ www.audiobulb.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Al C" <xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: "microsound" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2004 7:20 PM Subject: Re: [microsound] Madrid page is finally up! > on 6/30/04 12:45 PM, pyo.p at xxx.x@xxxx.xx wrote: > > > really nice page. congrats ! > > p. > > I second that. Very nice! > > omnid > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Jun 30 18:09:29 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30941-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 30 Jun 2004 14:09:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 14:08:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 95068 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 18:09:47 +0000 Received: (qmail 95057 invoked from network); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 18:09:47 +0000 Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 20:09:59 +0200 From: Gianluca Foglino <xxxxxxxx_xxxxxxx@xxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Gamma Reader To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <000901c45ecd$754a80a0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <BD082B70.2052D%xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx sound visualization and all the different patterns (technical and interpretative) in which is divided, forms on one side a sensorial expansion of the acoustic part and from another side an audience entertainment more often required as added value.The amplification process of a track with visual interpretation can avoid to be just a visual background created for the occasion, but characterize itself with a more deep and flexible analysis related to the audience feedback.Gamma Reader <http://www.ds-x.org/_produkts/produkts/GR-v.1.sit> is a mac sofware that use the famous homonymous Kim Cascone track to re-interpret it by a free downloading software, working on double process (interactive or not).The code creates a parametric structure in wich who is working with can create an image controlling a visual loop in its rotation on multiple layers.The layers division of the choosen image and the richness of graphic interrface used create a process with the sound style elaboration, arriving in a not agreed upon association of audiovisual output. cheers gl ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kim Cascone" <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: "microsound_list" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2004 5:33 PM Subject: [microsound] Gamma Reader > check out a review (in Italian) of MacOS software art using a piece of mine > http://www.neural.it/nnews/gammareader.htm > anyone up to translating this review into English for the list? > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Jun 30 17:57:39 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30940-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.112]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 30 Jun 2004 13:57:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 13:57:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 83331 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 17:57:55 +0000 Received: (qmail 83313 invoked from network); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 17:57:54 +0000 Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 17:57:49 +0000 (UTC) From: Phil Thomson <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Gamma Reader In-reply-to: <000b01c45ec5$9bd03ba0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx> X-X-Sender: xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <BD082B70.2052D%xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> <000b01c45ec5$9bd03ba0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx From BabelFish (because I often like bad machine translations better than good human ones): "24.06.04 Range Reader, visual of one trace through parametric software. The visualization of the sound and the thousand rivoli interpreted to you and technical in which it has been subdivided, it on one side constitutes a sensory expansion of the acoustic part, and from the other an entertainment of the more and more demanded spectator like added value. The process to widen a trace with a visual interpretation can therefore avoid on purpose of being a foundation for the eyes created, characterizing itself with a more complex and ductile analysis adapting itself to the feedback of the customer. Range Reader is a software for Mac that uses the omonima celebrated trace of Kim Cascone in order to interpret it through a software to himself being (liberations releasable), acting in the twofold interactive modality and not. The code constructs an parametric structure within which who it interacts to you can elaborate an image regulating a loop visual in its spin on multiple plans. The division of the plan of the chosen image and the remarkable taste of the used graphical interface put into effect an assonant process with the style of elaboration of the sound, sfociando in a society not agreed of audiovisional yield." On Wed, 30 Jun 2004, Gianluca Foglino wrote: > Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 19:13:22 +0200 > From: Gianluca Foglino <xxxxxxxx_xxxxxxx@xxx.xx> > Reply-To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> > To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> > Subject: Re: [microsound] Gamma Reader > > i can try.... > gl > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kim Cascone" <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> > To: "microsound_list" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> > Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2004 5:33 PM > Subject: [microsound] Gamma Reader > > >> check out a review (in Italian) of MacOS software art using a piece of > mine >> http://www.neural.it/nnews/gammareader.htm >> anyone up to translating this review into English for the list? >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> website: http://www.microsound.org >> > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > ========= Phil Thomson home: http://www.sfu.ca/~pthomson label: http://centibel.org/ group: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/databenders/ ========= SDF Public Access UNIX System http://www.freeshell.org/ Geekier than you since 1987. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Jun 30 17:51:56 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30939-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.81]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 30 Jun 2004 13:51:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 13:51:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 77955 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 17:52:12 +0000 Received: (qmail 77944 invoked from network); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 17:52:12 +0000 Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 18:51:29 +0100 From: xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx Subject: Re: [microsound] note about music cognition In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.553) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Dear group interesting thread this on language and music but am i alone in thinking that music (without a libretto/lyrics) is semiotically empty? it is "just notes" and we can't generalise about the individual "threshold of perception" of audience members who may or may not be responding to coded "puns" etc in an "intertextual" way er, just a thought (a bit blurry tho) regards, David --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Jun 30 17:25:17 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30938-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.111]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 30 Jun 2004 13:25:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 13:25:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 60351 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 17:25:34 +0000 Received: (qmail 60341 invoked from network); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 17:25:34 +0000 Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 10:25:26 -0700 (PDT) From: brandon schakola <xx_x_x@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] note about music cognition X-Originating-IP: [64.139.88.243] To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: xx_x_x@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.41 (Entity 5.404) Content-type: text/plain Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Eon-Sig: AQFjrwhA4veGAATKvAEAAAAB,85604dd620c203e6e01e7d6e7b8e5556 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx re: Also I believe you have to know something about music to enjoy music. Cause if no one new anything about music then why the hell do people have preconceptions about how music should sound. It'd be easier if we didn't have a bias to say 3 minute diddies. Well, as far as preconceptions about how music should sound, those are fairly deep structures, in terms of the mind-brain. We understand music as syntactical, in a language-like sense: phrases, motives, etc. There's a book called "A Generative Theory of Tonal Music" by Ray Jackendoff and Fred Lerdahl, which presents some interesting notions about how the mind understands music in a language-like way. i found a summary of some of these points: http://odur.let.rug.nl/~schreudr/ppt/imatra2001b/imatra01ax6.pdf So, although we can metaphorically speak about mapping literature to music, there's something lacking in music that's not in language: a deep sense of semantics. Music in this sense is mostly syntax. So we might be able to talk about the turnings and twistings of motives inside a piece of music, we can't really speak about music in the same ways that a symbol in a text, or a theme might be developed, as these are inherently tied to semantics. Its quite difficult to talk about "meaning" in music. Puns in language usually occur when there are issues in the mind determining the "logical type" of a phrase. Jokes or puns are usually trying to access more than one logical type at the same time, or show some sense of "stress" or "leap" between logica types. So, i guess if we want to push this metaphor into music, we would probably need to say what we mean by "logical types" in music. Unfortunately my brain isn't quite big enough to wrap around that. But it would be interesting to try. The "Suprise Symphony" comes to mind here. One way to test a theory about literature to music would be to take a text, parse or structure the text in some way (xml, perl...) and asign musical phrases to certain themes in the structure, and see what the outcome is. This could be achieved via max/msp, pd, supercollider or the likes.... just a thought. brandon. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Jun 30 17:17:49 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30937-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.110]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 30 Jun 2004 13:17:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 13:17:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 55055 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 17:18:07 +0000 Received: (qmail 55044 invoked from network); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 17:18:07 +0000 Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 10:17:53 -0700 (PDT) From: brandon schakola <xx_x_x@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] point about music cognition and language X-Originating-IP: [64.139.88.243] To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: xx_x_x@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.41 (Entity 5.404) Content-type: text/plain Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Eon-Sig: AQFjrwhA4vXEAApCOwEAAAAB,bdf15c3906200da519477bf2ffd59fe6 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx re: Also I believe you have to know something about music to enjoy music. Cause if no one new anything about music then why the hell do people have preconceptions about how music should sound. It'd be easier if we didn't have a bias to say 3 minute diddies. Well, as far as preconceptions about how music should sound, those are fairly deep structures, in terms of the mind-brain. We understand music as syntactical, in a language-like sense: phrases, motives, etc. There's a book called "A Generative Theory of Tonal Music" by Ray Jackendoff and Fred Lerdahl, which presents some interesting notions about how the mind understands music in a language-like way. i found a summary of some of these points: http://odur.let.rug.nl/~schreudr/ppt/imatra2001b/imatra01ax6.pdf So, although we can metaphorically speak about mapping literature to music, there's something lacking in music that's not in language: a deep sense of semantics. Music in this sense is mostly syntax. So we might be able to talk about the turnings and twistings of motives inside a piece of music, we can't really speak about music in the same ways that a symbol in a text, or a theme might be developed, as these are inherently tied to semantics. Its quite difficult to talk about "meaning" in music. Puns in language usually occur when there are issues in the mind determining the "logical type" of a phrase. Jokes or puns are usually trying to access more than one logical type at the same time, or show some sense of "stress" or "leap" between logica types. So, i guess if we want to push this metaphor into music, we would probably need to say what we mean by "logical types" in music. Unfortunately my brain isn't quite big enough to wrap around that. But it would be interesting to try. The "Suprise Symphony" comes to mind here. One way to test a theory about literature to music would be to take a text, parse or structure the text in some way (xml, perl...) and asign musical phrases to certain themes in the structure, and see what the outcome is. This could be achieved via max/msp, pd, supercollider or the likes.... just a thought. brandon. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Jun 30 17:13:17 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30936-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 30 Jun 2004 13:13:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 13:10:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 50186 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 17:13:36 +0000 Received: (qmail 50175 invoked from network); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 17:13:36 +0000 Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 19:13:22 +0200 From: Gianluca Foglino <xxxxxxxx_xxxxxxx@xxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Gamma Reader To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <000b01c45ec5$9bd03ba0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <BD082B70.2052D%xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx i can try.... gl ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kim Cascone" <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: "microsound_list" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2004 5:33 PM Subject: [microsound] Gamma Reader > check out a review (in Italian) of MacOS software art using a piece of mine > http://www.neural.it/nnews/gammareader.htm > anyone up to translating this review into English for the list? > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Jun 30 16:44:40 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30935-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.86]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 30 Jun 2004 12:44:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 12:44:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 32502 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 16:44:56 +0000 Received: (qmail 32492 invoked from network); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 16:44:55 +0000 Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 18:45:01 +0200 From: "pyo.p" <xxx.x@xxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Madrid page is finally up! To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <000e01c45ec1$97917d50$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <BD082B04.2052C%xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx really nice page. congrats ! p. -- - - - - - - - - - - xxx@xxxx.xx - - - - - - - - - - - - - - http://pyo.free.fr http://wigs.project.free.fr http://klp.free.fr http://pause.asso.free.fr - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kim Cascone" <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: "microsound_list" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2004 5:32 PM Subject: [microsound] Madrid page is finally up! > microsounders, > - after a period of finding, training and coordinating our new web team we > finally have the Madrid page up...check it out! > http://microsound.org/madrid/ > - obviously now that the kinks are being worked out new projects are > expected to go live much quicker...so I will announce new a project in the > next few weeks... > major kudos to our new web team!! thanks to all and good work! :) > KIM > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Jun 30 15:40:48 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30934-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.109]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 30 Jun 2004 11:40:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 11:41:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 91812 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 15:41:03 +0000 Received: (qmail 91802 invoked from network); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 15:41:03 +0000 Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 08:33:52 -0700 From: Kim Cascone <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Gamma Reader To: microsound_list <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BD082B70.2052D%xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.0.6 X-Loop-Detect: 1 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx check out a review (in Italian) of MacOS software art using a piece of mine http://www.neural.it/nnews/gammareader.htm anyone up to translating this review into English for the list? --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Jun 30 15:38:33 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30933-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 30 Jun 2004 11:38:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 11:36:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 89677 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 15:38:50 +0000 Received: (qmail 89667 invoked from network); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 15:38:50 +0000 Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 08:32:04 -0700 From: Kim Cascone <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Madrid page is finally up! To: microsound_list <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BD082B04.2052C%xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.0.6 X-Loop-Detect: 1 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx microsounders, - after a period of finding, training and coordinating our new web team we finally have the Madrid page up...check it out! http://microsound.org/madrid/ - obviously now that the kinks are being worked out new projects are expected to go live much quicker...so I will announce new a project in the next few weeks... major kudos to our new web team!! thanks to all and good work! :) KIM --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Jun 30 12:36:13 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30932-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.86]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 30 Jun 2004 08:36:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 08:36:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 15378 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 12:36:30 +0000 Received: (qmail 15368 invoked from network); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 12:36:30 +0000 Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 09:12:02 -0400 From: john saylor <xx@xxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] summer book lists? In-reply-to: <f05111b02bd07f7dfe63d@[63.198.190.226]> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <BD05692F.20386%xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> <f05111b02bd07f7dfe63d@[63.198.190.226]> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx At 6:20 AM -0700 6/28/04, Kim Cascone wrote: > hey, I'm asking once again for a 'last five or so books read' list from > microsounders _dahlgren_, s. delany [didn't finish] _helping_children_cope_with_divorce_, e.teyber _poetry_ magazine _artists_in_times_of_war_, h.zinn _eastern_standard_tribe_, c.doctorow [read on handspring visor] -- \js (@#@[}~ } |"#)}\`&^ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Jun 30 10:17:52 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30931-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.86]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 30 Jun 2004 06:17:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 06:17:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 83317 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 10:18:14 +0000 Received: (qmail 83307 invoked from network); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 10:18:14 +0000 Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 01:00:37 -0700 From: Joshua Maremont <xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] summer book lists? In-reply-to: <BD05692F.20386%xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-Sender: xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx@mail.boxmanstudies.com To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <f05111b02bd07f7dfe63d@[63.198.190.226]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <BD05692F.20386%xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx At 6:20 AM -0700 6/28/04, Kim Cascone wrote: >hey, I'm asking once again for a 'last five or so books read' list from >microsounders...they don't have to be 'sound art' related and can be >anything at all...here's mine to start and thanks to Joshua for the Markson >tip! These delights lately: Miri Yu - Gold Rush Ryu Murakami - In The Miso Soup Jose Saramago - All The Names (recommended for those with Borges and Kafka on their lists) Arundhati Roy - The God Of Small Things Elfriede Jelinek - Lust Linn Ullmann - Stella Descending Don DeLillo - The Body Artist Stanislaw Lem - Solaris Herbert Asbury - The Barbary Coast Victor Pelevin - Homo Zapiens Frida Sigurdardottir - Night Watch np - Tindersticks (1st album demos) -- Joshua Maremont / Thermal - mailto:xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx Boxman Studies Label - http://www.boxmanstudies.com/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Jun 30 04:46:30 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30930-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 30 Jun 2004 00:46:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 00:45:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 11667 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 04:46:47 +0000 Received: (qmail 11650 invoked from network); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 04:46:45 +0000 Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 21:46:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Phil Thomson <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] [OT} [Fwd: "BIOTERRORISM" DOWNGRADED TO PETTY THEFT IN FBI EMBARRASSMENT] To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Message-id: <xxxxx.xxx.x.xxx.xx.xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.2 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N X-Authentication-warning: iceland.freeshell.org: nobody set sender to xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx using -f List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx ---------------------------- Original Message ---------------------------- Subject: "BIOTERRORISM" DOWNGRADED TO PETTY THEFT IN FBI EMBARRASSMENT From: "CAE Legal Defense Fund" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Date: Tue, June 29, 2004 9:35 pm To: "philthom-freeshell.org" <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> -------------------------------------------------------------------------- June 29, 2004 FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE Contact: mailto:xxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx "BIOTERROR" CHARGES DOWNGRADED TO "MAIL FRAUD" IN STEALTH INDICTMENT U.S. Attorneys attempt to cast $256 technicality as health and safety issue in "stealth" indictment Professor Steve Kurtz was charged today by a federal grand jury in Buffalo, New York--not with bioterrorism, as listed on the Joint Terrorism Task Force's original search warrant and subpoenas, but with "petty larceny," in the words of Kurtz attorney Paul Cambria. (See http://www.caedefensefund.org/ for background.) Also indicted was Robert Ferrell, head of the Department of Genetics at the University of Pittsburgh's School of Public Health. The charges concern technicalities of how Ferrell helped Kurtz to obtain $256 worth of harmless bacteria for one of Kurtz's art projects. The laws under which the indictments were obtained--Title 18, United States Code, sections 1341 and 1343, covering mail and wire fraud--are normally used against those defrauding others of money or property, as in telemarketing schemes. This is a far cry from the bioterrorism charges originally sought by the District Attorney. To make a "federal case" out of such minor allegations, the District Attorney will have the burden of proving criminal intent. "There was very obviously no criminal intent," said Kurtz attorney Cambria. "The intent was to educate and enlighten." Cambria suggested that the pursuit of such a minor case at the federal level was profoundly absurd. "If the University of Pittsburgh feels that there was a contract breach, then their remedy is to sue Steve for $256 in a civil court." A STEALTH INDICTMENT The U.S. District Attorney attempted to cast the issue as one of public health and safety in a public press conference called without the knowledge of either defendant's lawyers, thus eliminating the chance of rebuttal. During the conference, parts of which were broadcast on local Buffalo news channels, U.S. Attorney William Hochul and U.S. District Attorney Michael Battle repeatedly alluded to "dangerous" and "bio-hazardous material," even though the charges have nothing to do with such issues, and scientists universally regard the materials in question as safe. At one point in the press conference, U.S. Attorney Hochul stated that Serratia marcescens, one of the two bacteria ordered by Ferrell, "is in fact a dangerous material in that it can cause pneumonia." Serratia cannot cause pneumonia, only aggravate it in someone who already has it, and very rarely at that. Furthermore, it would be hard to characterize as a "dangerous material" something that high school students routinely use in biology class experiments. (Easily trackable by its bright red color, S. marcescens is commonly used to demonstrate the many ways microbes can be destroyed--e.g. with household bleach. The other bacterium, Bacillus globigii, is also used in experiments as a stand-in for dangerous microbes--precisely because it is harmless.) Many believe the attempt to cast the $256 technicality as a public health and safety issue is a face-saving measure by the government, which has already expended an enormous amount of time and money in their fruitless pursuit of this case. ONLY THE BEGINNING Although the original bioterrorism charges are now completely off the table, the trial still promises to be financially and psychologically draining for the defendants. The international support of the defendants by artists, scientists and other citizens has been remarkable; it is crucial that this support continue as the government extends this outrageous and wasteful persecution into a grueling trial. To donate to the defense fund, please visit http://caedefensefund.org/donate.html. Updates on the case will be posted at http://www.caedefensefund.org/. To receive more frequent updates by email, please join http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CAE_Defense/. =========== Phil Thomson home: http://www.sfu.ca/~pthomson/ label: http://www.centibel.org/ =========== --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Jun 30 02:25:35 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30929-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 29 Jun 2004 22:25:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 22:24:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 76134 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 02:25:55 +0000 Received: (qmail 76120 invoked from network); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 02:25:54 +0000 Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 04:25:48 +0200 From: Tjeerd Sietsma <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Mac vs PC In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME::Lite 1.4 (F2.72; T1.001; A1.62; B3.01; Q3.01) Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Sasl-Enc: PDRiBtKQl6FI7pKCMvc4eg 1088562348 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > Tjeerd Sietsma <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx> wrote: > > The main differences between a PC and a Mac are (from a sound designer's > point of view): > - PC is cheaper than a Mac to buy, but a Mac keeps it's value > - PC's usually come with Windows. Windows demands your attention all the > time. > > In what way do you mean that Windows "demands your attention all the > time"? > I work on both PC and Mac and don't find either one to demand more of my > time than the other. From what I've seen, both operating systems have > thier own particular issues. And all the talk about how Macs are "more > intuitive" are based on subjective opinions rather than objective ones > because when I first started using PCs, I didn't have much problem > getting around on them (without a manual), but when I started working > with Macs, I had to spend too much time searching for certain basic > functions and system settings. But this was just my personal experience > (again, a subjective one). > > And if you're working with sound, Macs and programs made for Macs are > (yes, needlessly) overpriced, and there are still way more sound oriented > programs available that are made for Windows and cost less money or are > available for free on the internet. > And I still think many people in the sound world partially use Macs > because they are viewed as some sort of status symbol ! ;-) I'm sorry > people, but it doesn't make the music any better just because it was made > on a Mac. Mac is no status symbol in my personal environment. But the fact remains that when using a Mac you don't have to think about the OS all the time. Windows continuously pops up needless messages, especially when connected to the internet. It's real hard to work safe on the internet when using Windows. e.g. the latest version of Windows XP connects to the internet in 16 ways even when the internal firewall is supposed to block all traffic. Foolish and naieve users who still use Outlook and Office often don't realize the danger: since Outlook is glue-ed to the other components of Microsoft office with VBA (Visual Basic for Applications) it is hell easy for even teenagers to write viruses. This is because Microsoft wants the system to be open, and they have no need to secure it like e.g. Java is sandboxed to prevent other from breaking into your system. For more info see http://www.fuckmicrosoft.com and click on the link "What's so bad about Microsoft?" In short, Windows comes standard with a lot of problems and stuff you really don't want to think about. Mac doens't have much of such problems. -- Tjeerd Sietsma xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Jun 30 02:04:01 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30928-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 29 Jun 2004 22:04:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 22:03:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 69635 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 02:04:19 +0000 Received: (qmail 69615 invoked from network); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 02:04:19 +0000 Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 12:05:27 +1000 From: Brendan Palmer <xx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Melbourne event: Environ @ Loop this Sunday, Future Eater, Steve Law, bP, Jean P00le, Jouni Vaarallisesti ... many others In-reply-to: <BD08583C.7BE9%xx@xxxxx.xxx> To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx, xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BD085D07.7BF6%xx@xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.0.6 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Here's the hype for the next event we're doing at Loop in Melbourne, Australia this Sunday... Anyone in Melb (or touring Melb soon) should let me know if your interested in being involved in the future. It's first Sunday's on of the month... this month a bunch of laptoppers take on some acoustic nutters to challenge the meaning of the 4th of July! cheers bP ________________ ENViRON : SUNDAY JULY 4 : 7PM TIL LATE : $5 LOOP : 23 Meyers Place Melbourne, Australia What do you get when you combine the drummer from Aussie cult band Black Sorrows, the trombone player from progrssive Jazz Dub crew High Pass Filter, 90¹s techno guru Zen Paradox and a stack of cutting edge electronic audio composers, video artists, DJs and experimental film makers? Environ @ LOOP, Melbourne Australia... Through providing a collaborative structure and a platform for artists and musicians form many tangents of the Melbourne scene, environ generates an atmosphere for new aesthetic outcomes and unique interactions to form in from of the eyes and ears of onlookers. Woven within... talula, is an innovative performance concept with pre-determined roles similar to those used in modern jazz impro-games. This idea however, incorporates the modern tools of the DJ, the VJ and the laptop composer, alongside more traditional instruments like the sax, the drum kit or even the glockenspiel... On July 4th, two talula performances will bring together a fresh combination of participants: Talula #3 (8.30pm) Andrew Sargeant (Future Eater, Micromusic) - electronic audio Ian Kitney (Black Sorrows, Tim Rogers side project) - drums & radio scanning Jean P00le (Newcastle Electrofringe, Plug 'n' Play) - AV Brendan Palmer (Clan Analogue, Zonar, Alchemy) - analog vs digital mix Talula #4 (10.30pm) Steve Law (Zen Paradox, Solitary sound) - laptop audio James Wilkinson (High Pass Filter, Bucketrider) - trombone, conch, toys Kirsten Bradley (Cicada, Re_squared, Nextwave) - AV Viktor Markov (Channel Comm Bulgaria, SBS Radio) - dub mixing Also playing are touring Finnish DJ Jouni Vaarallisesti, ex-Adelaide selector Dubwise and Zaibatsu. Analogue projections come courtesy of John Aslanidis and Paul Rodgers. 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Wed Jun 30 01:56:36 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30926-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.111]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 29 Jun 2004 21:56:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 21:56:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 66146 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 01:56:51 +0000 Received: (qmail 66135 invoked from network); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 01:56:51 +0000 Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 03:56:45 +0200 From: Tjeerd Sietsma <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Mac vs PC (linux information) In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxx.xxx.xx-x-xxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME::Lite 1.4 (F2.72; T1.001; A1.62; B3.01; Q3.01) Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Sasl-Enc: GGkxVDEvr9BWZXFoOkwEIQ 1088560605 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxx.xxx.xx-x-xxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxx.xxx.xx-x-xxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > It's the 'recommended' Windows installer that installs all those > > sometimes pre-alpha libraries that can make your system instable. > > It is true that some externs can cause crashes and headakes. But this > was the case with MaxMSP as well. In fact, when MSP layer was added > it was it that cased the most havoc. People still bought it and were > happy. I don't understand why most people are happy with buggy > software if they pay for it while they whine when it's free... Don't > take it personally, I'm just generalizing and thinking out ASCII. I'm not. My guess is that people who use free software are in general more critical than users that 'just buy' software and complain more (in a civilized way) to make developers enhance the software. > On the other hand I'm not even sure if what I'm saying applies to > today's MaxMSP. I haven't used it in years (but I did have seen it > crash in some life performances....). I've never seen PureData crash. It had a few glitches once but that was due to the fact I was using Windows and had a bunch of shitty programs installed. My bad. > > Compared to Max/MSP you do spend more time patching your patches, > > because Max/MSP contains many prefabricated objects. > > Ah. That's whole different story. A lot of patches have been > provided by the community over the years. Keep in mind that pd has a > smaller user community and hasn't been around for so long. Some users > have started making some abstractions to make the whole thing more > user-friendly for the newcommers: > > frank Barknecht's RRadical project: > http://puredata.info/community/projects/rradical/RRADicalWiki > > David McCullum's abstractions: > http://mentalfloss.ca/sintheta/html/downloads.html > > and here you will find pdjimmies (jimmies port) by Zack Settel: > http://tot.sat.qc.ca/fra/nslam.html > > There are probably others around. But these should get you started. Great resources! Thanks! > On the other hand, I think that the point of using pd is to roll your > own, but I do agree that having a collection of patches around is good > so that you don't reeinvent the wheel. Me and another student of my school are trying to set up a pd-site facilitating webspace for this kind of stuff. > > Costs are irrelevant. I like the b/w interface though, and prefer > > PureData instead of Max/MSP. Also Max/MSP doesn't run on Linux *yet* :) > > I, too I'm waiting for the port :).... GPL'd :-) > > > I agree, but opensource software is often well documented as all > > software should be. I didn't know the toggle in PureData could also > > remember numbers, if I only knew many of such details earlier it would > > have saved me days. > > ok, well, the documentation lacks certain details. But it is fairly > complete. You can learn a lot about programming with pd if you read the > manual and study the examples and help files. The helpfiles are very good indeed. But this incompleteness makes learning PureData more like a challenge. As Edsgar W. Dijkstra once said: programmers get their 'kick' from programming not because they know exactly what they're doing, but because they don't know exactly what they're doing. > > I totally agree. But as you've said yourself, programs like Rosegarden > > are years behind, and this was exactly my point, the reason why most > > people choose to use Windows and/or MacOS instead. > > Yeah. The thing is that I started using Linux because I wanted to get > away from the mainstream apps :) I'm sorry but sometimes I assume > that everyone else wants to do just that, although I know I'm wrong. I sympathize :) I used Windows and it's apps since '96 and after eight years I come to the conclusion that I don't want to use Windows EVER AGAIN. Another thing is that when you've seen as many mainstream apps as I have (which you probably will) you would agree that it really doesn't matter which app you use or which keyboard shortcuts you are used to. Tjeerd -- Tjeerd Sietsma xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Jun 30 02:01:08 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30927-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.111]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 29 Jun 2004 22:01:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 22:01:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 68373 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 02:01:28 +0000 Received: (qmail 68352 invoked from network); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 02:01:27 +0000 Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 21:53:17 -0400 From: stephen hastings-king <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] summer book lists? Sender: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxx.x@xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-User-Info: 68.163.23.89 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx am teaching a summer source, so some of this is work-related, but anyway: walter benjamin arcades project louis aragon: paris paysan f. pessoa: book of disquiet lysoff and grey, eds., music an technoculture (only some interesting stuff in this...) l. goehr: the imaginary museum of musical works stephen ----------------------------------------------------- http://eo.yifan.net Free POP3/Web Email, File Manager, Calendar and Address Book --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Jun 30 01:34:54 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30925-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.81]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 29 Jun 2004 21:34:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 21:34:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 59307 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 01:35:13 +0000 Received: (qmail 59297 invoked from network); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 01:35:13 +0000 Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 03:35:06 +0200 From: Tjeerd Sietsma <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Mac vs PC (linux information) In-reply-to: <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME::Lite 1.4 (F2.72; T1.001; A1.62; B3.01; Q3.01) Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Sasl-Enc: UQs4qNgd0nsUvAJk4cNshQ 1088559306 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxx.xxx.xx-x-xxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Many users/developers posted examples of software already, but it seems like Loris is just a C++ library, and not a complete program. You can't expect the average sounddesigner codes his own software? It's not that I'm unimpressed with Loris or ungrateful for its free release but Loris seems a bridge to far for most users. On Wed, 16 Jun 2004 16:20:29 +0000 (UTC), "Phil Thomson" <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> said: > > e.g. I don't know any > > linux-tool with which you can morph spectra. This of course could also > > very well mean that I'm not that good in browsing the internet. > > Once, when browsing the internet, I found this: > > http://www.cerlsoundgroup.org/Loris/ > > P > > > ========= > Phil Thomson > home: http://www.sfu.ca/~pthomson > label: http://centibel.org/ > group: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/databenders/ > ========= > > SDF Public Access UNIX System > http://www.freeshell.org/ > Geekier than you since 1987. > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > -- Tjeerd Sietsma xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Jun 30 01:05:19 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30924-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 29 Jun 2004 21:05:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 21:04:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 49115 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 01:05:38 +0000 Received: (qmail 49104 invoked from network); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 01:05:38 +0000 Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 03:05:32 +0200 From: Tjeerd Sietsma <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Mac vs PC (linux information)[pd readymades] In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxx.xxx.xx-x-xxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME::Lite 1.4 (F2.72; T1.001; A1.62; B3.01; Q3.01) Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Sasl-Enc: e70bOSn96fknggDlalwRtw 1088557532 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxx.xxx.xx-x-xxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx.xxxxx@x-x.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxx.xxx.xx-x-xxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx On Wed, 23 Jun 2004 19:05:06 -0400, "Michal Seta" <xxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx.xxx> said: > "Tjeerd Sietsma" <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx> writes: > > > You're right, that's a main argument to choose for PD. But next to that, > > PD should also provide it's user with top-level building blocks. > > The links I sent in my previous mail in this thread are such building > blocks and they even have a GUI. If there aren't enough it's only > because 1) there aren't many users who actually develop for the good > of the community, 2) not enough people asked for such things. Keep in > mind that many users share their work (not enough perhaps) so you can > always dig in and adapt to your own needs. > > > This > > would help a lot of developers gain programming speed and reduce > > efforts. > > Developers or users? users :) I'm used to look at PureData users as developers, because they are also programming. Although those users normally don't code stuff, they do create algorithms. (2nd part of programming) > > > I guess this is exactly what Miller Puckette doesn't want. > > I don't think so. In fact Miller has started an effort of porting > some pieces from the IRCAM interactive computer music literature > (Boulez, Saariaho, Manoury) and examples of using pd for such things > like collage a la Tenney, spectral resynthesis a la Harvey, phase a la > Reich but IRCAM pulled the plug due to licensing. Some of the > components (if not most) were ready to reuse. Blame IRCAM for not > allowing access to such great resource. OTOH, I doubt David Z., the > cycler74, spends time making user-friendly high-level modules. Other > people do that. But then, I don't know jack... i might be wrong. > > The upside is that there is more interest for high-level blocks and > some users started providing some goodies. Stay tuned. So it's up to the users (who are also developers :) to create PD exten- tions. That doesn't sound too bad. I'm already glad Miller Puckette made the PureData 'framework' to create extentions for. -- Tjeerd Sietsma xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Jun 30 00:32:49 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30923-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 29 Jun 2004 20:32:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 20:31:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 40200 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 00:33:08 +0000 Received: (qmail 40190 invoked from network); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 00:33:08 +0000 Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 20:29:18 -0400 From: andrew jones <xxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Re: summer book lists? In-reply-to: <BD0838AF.2B80%xxxxxx@xxx.xxx.xx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.553) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx On Tuesday, June 29, 2004, at 07:30 PM, Aaron Hull wrote: > Hmm I tend to disagree with your point about books, people can often > get the > wrong impression and completely miss a subtle point or undertone which > affects the way a theme is perceived by the reader. I think whether > you read > a book or listen to music there are certain levels of understanding. > (will > not go to deep here) > to true, but you have to be able to write to read but you don't have to be able to play music to enjoy it. although I am a little bias to 3 minute diddies =) peace, a --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Jun 29 23:30:13 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30922-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 29 Jun 2004 19:30:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 19:28:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 16207 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 23:30:32 +0000 Received: (qmail 16194 invoked from network); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 23:30:32 +0000 Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 09:30:23 +1000 From: Aaron Hull <xxxxxx@xxx.xxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Re: summer book lists? To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BD0838AF.2B80%xxxxxx@xxx.xxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.4.030702.0 X-MessageID: 6421393.9681 X-EnvelopeFrom: <xxxxxx@xxx.xxx.xx> 6421393.9681 X-EnvelopeTo: <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> 6421393.9681 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Hmm I tend to disagree with your point about books, people can often get the wrong impression and completely miss a subtle point or undertone which affects the way a theme is perceived by the reader. I think whether you read a book or listen to music there are certain levels of understanding. (will not go to deep here) I am not trying to answer your question about a pun though, just being a knit picker in regards to your point about text and music. Also I believe you have to know something about music to enjoy music. Cause if no one new anything about music then why the hell do people have preconceptions about how music should sound. It'd be easier if we didn't have a bias to say 3 minute diddies. By the way this is my 1st post. So I'd just like to say hi. Have been reading intently so far. ----------- Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 00:45:18 -0400 To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> From: andrew jones <xxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Re: summer book lists? Message-Id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> true, but that's a blind experiment. what I'm thinking of here is that you have to be experienced in the basic structures of language (i.e. grammar etc.) to read, but you don't have to know dick to enjoy music. Hence an author can play with words knowing his audience will (hopefully get it) while a musician can cleverly blend all sorts of structures behind music and yet if it doesn't make an aesthetic effect, your average listening won't know. How do you make a pun in music? - A On Monday, June 28, 2004, at 09:13 PM, Phil Thomson wrote: > > My composition teacher told me about the experience of playing the=20 > surrealist game of "Exquisite Corpses" with several of his friends in=20= > his student days. One would take a sheet of music paper and write a=20 > line of music plus a note, fold it over, and pass it to the next=20 > person who would proceed from the last note of the person before them. > > I guess you could do this with computer music too. One person could=20 > write a line of zeroes and ones on a sheet of paper and pass it to the=20= > next person. The last person could unfold the sheet and type it into a=20= > hex editor and put a soundfile header on it and burn it to CD. Just a=20= > thought. > > P --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Jun 29 21:39:48 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30921-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 29 Jun 2004 17:39:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 17:37:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 69266 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 21:40:06 +0000 Received: (qmail 69256 invoked from network); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 21:40:06 +0000 Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 14:40:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Aaron Ximm <xxxxx@xxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Saturn Sound In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@x-xxxxx.xx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx@xxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Virus-Scanned: clamd / ClamAV version devel-20040628, clamav-milter version 0.73d on smtp X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx@xx.xxx.xxx.xx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@x-xxxxx.xx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Did I miss anyone posting this already? Sounds of radio frequency bursts -- "rotational modulation of radio emmissions [...] generated by charged particles whose motions are controlled by the planetary magnetic field" -- shifted into the audible frequency range. http://www-pw.physics.uiowa.edu/space-audio/cassini/sat-rotation/ xxxxx@xxxx.xxx http://www.quietamerican.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Jun 29 21:31:08 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30920-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.82]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 29 Jun 2004 17:31:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 17:29:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 64001 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 21:31:26 +0000 Received: (qmail 63991 invoked from network); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 21:31:25 +0000 Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 23:28:03 +0200 From: kspr <xxxx@x-xxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Re: summer book lists? In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx@xx.xxx.xxx.xx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@x-xxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.618) Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_5CxRYw9F6gnMmEc9wfp8/A)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-SmartMax-AuthUser: X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx@xx.xxx.xxx.xx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_5CxRYw9F6gnMmEc9wfp8/A) Content-Type: text/plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm reading (at the moment) the soft machine - William Burroughs almost finished reading it, though and afterwards i'll be reading Abattoir - Erwin Neutzsky-Wulff /kasper --Boundary_(ID_5CxRYw9F6gnMmEc9wfp8/A)-- From ???@??? Tue Jun 29 21:03:32 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30919-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.86]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 29 Jun 2004 17:03:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 17:03:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 51534 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 21:03:49 +0000 Received: (qmail 51523 invoked from network); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 21:03:49 +0000 Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 14:03:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Aaron Ximm <xxxxx@xxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Re: summer book lists? In-reply-to: <00bb01c45db0$2980ca30$xxxxxxxx@xxxxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx@xxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Virus-Scanned: clamd / ClamAV version devel-20040628, clamav-milter version 0.73d on smtp X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> <00bb01c45db0$2980ca30$xxxxxxxx@xxxxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > How do you make a pun in music? > > I'd say by intertextuality. You know all this talk about art as a discourse, > it's pretty common (even more so in classical music) to refer to others' > work in a piece of music. Often this is done humorously, though I'm not sure I agree, my first thought was that the equivalent in music to a pun is more like a literal (or at least discernible) allusion -- the first thing that popped into mind was some bebop solo that quotes a phrase from "surry with the fringe on top," pauses, and then blasts onwards. It was quick but quite obvious. I know I've heard plenty of other less obvious examples too. The second thing that comes to mind, somewhat embarassingly, is my familiarity with how the Grateful Dead would, while jamming, basically "discuss" the next tune to drop in to ~ fans who were deeply familiar with the repetoire could follow the conversation quite clearly, which was often limited to very subtle or fragmentary tropes or rhythms... Not punning in this case, but, well, conversation through a common musical language! aaron xxxxx@xxxx.xxx http://www.quietamerican.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Jun 29 21:01:18 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30918-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 29 Jun 2004 17:01:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 16:58:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 49785 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 21:01:36 +0000 Received: (qmail 49773 invoked from network); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 21:01:35 +0000 Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 17:01:41 -0400 From: vze26m98 <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Re: summer book lists? In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx@xx.xxx.xxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mailsmith 1.1.6 (Bluto) Content-type: text/plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx figured I should throw in: _White Nile_, Alan Moorhead _The Khartoum Journals of General Charles E. Gordon_ _Odyssey of an American Composer_, Otto Luening _Boulez-Cage Correspondence_, Jean Jacques Nattiez _The Iron Heel_, Jack London --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Jun 29 17:09:01 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30917-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 29 Jun 2004 13:09:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 13:08:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 34284 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 17:09:17 +0000 Received: (qmail 34274 invoked from network); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 17:09:17 +0000 Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 10:09:30 -0700 From: Bill Jarboe <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] synth toys In-reply-to: <BD062F92.203E9%xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BD06F057.822C%xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Hi, I find this rather impressive (sh 32): http://www.audiomidi.com/common/cfm/product.cfm?Product_ID=4109# ..of course you'd need a controller , those aren't hard to find. on 6/28/04 8:27 PM, Kim Cascone at xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx wrote: > I'm looking for a small analog synth with a keyboard, lots of knobs and a > built-in speaker...battery and/or AC powered is ok...something like the > monophonic SH-101 but smaller...a kit is ok...something like the > Technosaurus Microcon II but with a keyboard would be perfect... > as I've not been following the synth hardware market for a long time I am > unaware of what strange little synth toys might be lurking about...anyone > recommend something? > thanks in advance! > KIM --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Jun 29 16:30:12 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30916-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.86]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 29 Jun 2004 12:30:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 12:30:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 16517 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 16:28:37 +0000 Received: (qmail 16505 invoked from network); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 16:28:37 +0000 Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 17:28:12 +0100 From: Alex Young <xxxx@xxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] summer book lists? In-reply-to: <BD05692F.20386%xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.618) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <BD05692F.20386%xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx The last few books I read are: Millennium People - J G Ballard Quicksilver - Neal Stephenson Buddhism: Core Ideas - Hsing Yun Brave New World - Aldous Huxley Microsound - Curtis Roads Fremder - Russell Hoban Hard-Boiled Wonderland and the End of the World - Haruki Murakami And I'll probably go through my old Brian Aldiss books during the summer if I get stuck for anything to read :) -- homepage: http://alex.bash.sh music: http://noise.me.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Jun 29 16:12:29 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30915-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 29 Jun 2004 12:12:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 12:10:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 3794 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 16:12:46 +0000 Received: (qmail 3784 invoked from network); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 16:12:46 +0000 Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 16:12:45 +0000 From: benoit deuxant <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] pun in music X-Originating-IP: [81.241.205.11] X-Sender: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Bcc: Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Originating-Email: [xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Jun 2004 16:12:45.0182 (UTC) FILETIME=[E9A901E0:01C45DF3] hi there, i'm not sure you'd call it a "pun" but you could check alfred schnittke's music, which is full of quotes, parodies and decontextualisation of bach, beethoven, di lasso, shostakovitch etc... (found this on http://www.greatwar.org.nz/schnittke.htm : "He began writing music in the Serialist style which was the done thing for any Russian composer of that time who wished to be disassociated from state sanctioned "tunes you can whistle" (Thank you Joe Stalin). Around about 1968 he decided to "alight from an already overcrowded train" and began writing in the style that eventually became known as polystylism. He was influenced at this point by Webern and Ives. His first composition in this style was the 2nd Violin Sonata Quasi una Sonata (spot the knowing Beethoven reference) which he described as "a report of the impossibility of the sonata, made in the form of a sonata". This was followed four years later by the 1st Symphony which eviscerates the traditional form of the symphony. He juxtaposes quotations from the "Great Masters" against blasts of free form orchestral noise, incorporates a jazz band, produces moments of stark terror neatly undercut by gross banality and generally destroys the whole notion of the symphony as a form and a cultural practice - the musicians process on to the stage while playing and are followed by the conductor. He has written many works which use Baroque forms and idioms (the concerti grossi for example) but not in any neo-classical sense. These can range from "joke" pieces such as a version of the old Christmas favourite Stille Nacht (Silent Night) which perfectly skewers the Hell that is the season of goodwill through to the Concerto Grosso no. 6 which has qualities of "the wind blowing through the graveyard". " tschuss, benoit >From: vze26m98 <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> >Reply-To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> >To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> >Subject: Re: [microsound] pun in music >Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 10:53:19 -0400 > >On 6/29/04 at 7:18 AM, Kim Cascone <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote: > > > > How do you make a pun in music? > > Sr Coconut might be a good example...albeit sorta obvious > >You might want to check out Peter Kivy's book, _Sound and Semblance_ >which takes up the issue of musical puns in Bach and Handel... > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >website: http://www.microsound.org > _________________________________________________________________ Personnalisez MSN Messenger 6 avec votre propre Weemee http://divertissements.fr.msn.be/weemee/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Jun 29 15:53:59 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30913-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.110]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 29 Jun 2004 11:53:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 11:53:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 86768 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 15:54:14 +0000 Received: (qmail 86757 invoked from network); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 15:54:14 +0000 Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 11:54:09 -0400 From: bruce tovsky <xxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] synth toys In-reply-to: <001c01c45d5f$70905540$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Errors-to: xxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.553) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx i just bought a cracklebox and love it. worth checking out if lush melodic washes are NOT what you're looking for...;-) buchla-ish touch sensors, battery-powered and built-in speaker... and loud. here's the link: http://www.steim.org/steim/cracklebox.php best b On Monday, June 28, 2004, at 06:29 PM, Kassen wrote: > >> I'm looking for a small analog synth with a keyboard, lots of knobs >> and a >> built-in speaker...battery and/or AC powered is ok...something like >> the >> monophonic SH-101 but smaller...a kit is ok...something like the >> Technosaurus Microcon II but with a keyboard would be perfect... >> as I've not been following the synth hardware market for a long time >> I am >> unaware of what strange little synth toys might be lurking >> about...anyone >> recommend something? >> thanks in advance! > > perhaps a yamaha cs-1? it uses sliders instead of knobs but that makes > it > very small and sturdy. can be batery powered, has a speaker, idealy > suited > for touring. best of all; it will do both noizes and synth lines. > affordable > too. in my experience it needs a compressor or a limiter when used live > because tweaking the settings can cause huge volume changes but apart > from > that it sounds like exactly what you want. > > looks good next to a casio sk-1 too. > link for your convenience; > http://www.synthmuseum.com/yamaha/yamcs101.html > > confession time; apart from my own experimental work i´m also in a > disco > project called "bangkok impact" (*ducks*). we´ve taken to using a lot > of > small and toy keyboards on stage because you can throw a lot of them > inbetween your clothes in your suitcase, they take up little room on > stage, > can be modified, don´t crash and they enable us to switch to completely > freestyle jamming at any moment. some of them produce a frightning > amount of > bass too...... > > i wholeheartedly recomend the practice to everybody. > > Kas. > > p.s. sorry about mentioning disco on the microsound list, i feel dirty > now. > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > > bruce tovsky www.skeletonhome.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Jun 29 16:00:31 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30914-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.113]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 29 Jun 2004 12:00:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 12:00:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 92795 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 16:00:47 +0000 Received: (qmail 92785 invoked from network); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 16:00:46 +0000 Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 17:53:02 +0200 From: bastien remion <xxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] Playlist "electrons libres-Futur (re)mix" To: Forum <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxx.xxx.xxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: YAM 2.4p1 [020] AmigaOS E-mail Client (c) 2000-2003 by YAM Open Source Team - http://www.yam.ch/ Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Hello everybody all the microsounder's...Como allez-vous??? 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Tue Jun 29 15:20:03 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30912-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 29 Jun 2004 11:20:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 11:17:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 73316 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 15:20:20 +0000 Received: (qmail 73306 invoked from network); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 15:20:20 +0000 Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 11:16:53 -0400 From: ndkent <xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] synth toys In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BD070025.15C2%xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.0.6 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> I'm looking for a small analog synth with a keyboard, lots of knobs and a >> built-in speaker...battery and/or AC powered is ok...something like the >> monophonic SH-101 but smaller...a kit is ok...something like the >> Technosaurus Microcon II but with a keyboard would be perfect... >> as I've not been following the synth hardware market for a long time I am >> unaware of what strange little synth toys might be lurking about...anyone >> recommend something? >> thanks in advance! > > perhaps a yamaha cs-1? it uses sliders instead of knobs but that makes it > very small and sturdy. can be batery powered, has a speaker, idealy suited > for touring. best of all; it will do both noizes and synth lines. affordable > too. in my experience it needs a compressor or a limiter when used live > because tweaking the settings can cause huge volume changes but apart from > that it sounds like exactly what you want. I'll agree with Kassen suggestion of that model which is actually called a CS01. It was a monophonic analog sold by Yamaha in 1982, for $275 or so and can be found used for less these days. Tip : the later roman numeral II units are supposed to have much improved resonance control. Yamaha's analog swan song. The EDP Wasp (UK 1978) has pretty much the above criteria but it's definitely now if it ever wasnt unroadworthy and goes for a collector premium. Very few units meet the criteria - I'll quickly mention some theories, see for yourself from your recollections of other people on tours these days, lots of knobbed USB controllers out there, nothing much that makes a sound aside from vintage casio SK-1s and the occasional circuit bent unit of some sort. Below are a couple partial criteria meeting choices I can think of- I'm sure you know the Nord Modular keyboard. No speaker of course and not a full set of knobs. That's something recently discontinued in favor of a larger unit (that supports current operating systems, something that until someone successfully completely reverse engineers the old Nord is going to be a real issue unless you still use Win98 or OS9) OK some contemporary stuff - MFB http://www.mfberlin.de/Produkte/Musikelektronik/musikelektronik.html have several very small analog and semi analog synths. They use push buttons instead of keys a la some of the small Rolands used to. I've use their drum machine mounted as a tie clip at several shows. Novation makes several virtual synths inside small keyboards with controllers, the sonic character to me is very plastic but I'm sure if they are used with that in mind music-wise they can be effective. They used to make the BassStation, which was a very small bass oriented synth keyboard with controls. The microkorg is somewhat popular but is pretty fake sounding and knob limited I think mainstream companies have proven with marketing that the inclusion of a built in speaker tips too many in the huge semi-pro market off that the unit in question isn't professional, then adding knobs instead of pushbutton presets makes the unit much more expensive with the additional consideration that the a knobs or sliders only interface is going to make it rough to sell as the unit in the shop won't necessarily be making cool sounds unless it has memories too, which by that time is going to price completely out of any kind of entry or non-pro market. The second factor is no one manufactures analogue keyboard mechanisms and its' something no one can make in their basement. What larger small companies do is buy MIDI keyboard mechanisms off Fatar in Italy, the only company AFAIK that will sell OEM keyboard mechanisms. About half the big companies buy their keyboards off Fatar too, but for a little guy that's big enough to be able to deal with Fatar you can't just spec anything and get it, the options are limited and of an analog synth the MIDI to CV converter hardware to use it for an analog synth adds over well $50. The couple analog keyboards out today as far as I've discovered all have MIDI keyboards and CV converters inside. It's a much simpler proposition for a synth builder to make the owner supply the keys themselves separately. A couple people I can think of might be developing units that meet some of your criteria now but a lot of these factors of meeting the needs of many users tend to push the pricing up or feature set down enough that they no longer become practical. And of course the allure of software, laptop and a knobbed USB controller probably dwindles the market faster than it grows the market for an alternative. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Jun 29 14:52:57 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30911-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.81]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 29 Jun 2004 10:52:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 10:52:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 59152 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 14:53:12 +0000 Received: (qmail 59141 invoked from network); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 14:53:12 +0000 Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 10:53:19 -0400 From: vze26m98 <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] pun in music In-reply-to: <BD06C83D.20419%xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx@xx.xxx.xxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mailsmith 1.1.6 (Bluto) Content-type: text/plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx On 6/29/04 at 7:18 AM, Kim Cascone <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote: > > How do you make a pun in music? > Sr Coconut might be a good example...albeit sorta obvious You might want to check out Peter Kivy's book, _Sound and Semblance_ which takes up the issue of musical puns in Bach and Handel... --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Jun 29 14:32:45 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30910-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.86]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 29 Jun 2004 10:32:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 10:32:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 49972 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 14:33:01 +0000 Received: (qmail 49962 invoked from network); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 14:33:01 +0000 Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 07:32:58 -0700 From: Kim Cascone <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] structure To: microsound_list <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BD06CBAA.2041C%xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.0.6 X-Loop-Detect: 1 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > I can't believe they even say that the schoenberg has less structure. > Certainly, they were looking for it in the wrong place. % agreed...while Schoenberg's 'Three Piano Pieces, Opus 11' might not share a note distribution similar to that of words in text anyone who knows AS's works knows that he was a stickler for compositional structure...this means that his dodecaphonic melodic/harmonic content adhered to classic forms of musical structure... also, dodecaphonic WWII code: http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/weekly/aa062998.htm > A more accurate analysis would need to measure distance between notes, not > the notes themselves. I guess they are oblivious of the extensive work of > Steven Pope. % or the writings of Schoenberg...check out 'Style and Idea' --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Jun 29 14:18:07 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30909-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 29 Jun 2004 10:18:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 10:15:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 41750 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 14:18:24 +0000 Received: (qmail 41740 invoked from network); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 14:18:24 +0000 Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 07:18:21 -0700 From: Kim Cascone <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] pun in music To: microsound_list <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BD06C83D.20419%xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.0.6 X-Loop-Detect: 1 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > How do you make a pun in music? Sr Coconut might be a good example...albeit sorta obvious --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Jun 29 14:08:19 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30908-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.83]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 29 Jun 2004 10:08:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 10:08:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 34173 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 14:08:36 +0000 Received: (qmail 34163 invoked from network); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 14:08:36 +0000 Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 15:08:34 +0100 From: David William Newman <xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx.xx> Subject: [microsound] Re: synth toys In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxx.xxxxxx.xx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxx-xxxxxx-xx@xxxxxxx.xx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Remote_Addr: 213.121.212.121 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxx.xxxxxx.xx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx i think this is a good synth toy http://www.sonicstate.com/news/shownews.cfm?newsid=1291 you even get a 84% replica ms-20 with it :) shinjiro yamaguchi writes: > "casio tone" is good, too. > it's very cheap sounds. > > > best > shinjiro > > >>perhaps a yamaha cs-1? it uses sliders instead of knobs but that makes it >>very small and sturdy. can be batery powered, has a speaker, idealy suited >>for touring. best of all; it will do both noizes and synth lines. affordable >>too. in my experience it needs a compressor or a limiter when used live >>because tweaking the settings can cause huge volume changes but apart from >>that it sounds like exactly what you want. >> >>looks good next to a casio sk-1 too. >>link for your convenience; >>http://www.synthmuseum.com/yamaha/yamcs101.html >> >>confession time; apart from my own experimental work i.m also in a disco >>project called "bangkok impact" (*ducks*). we.ve taken to using a lot of >>small and toy keyboards on stage because you can throw a lot of them >>inbetween your clothes in your suitcase, they take up little room on stage, >>can be modified, don.t crash and they enable us to switch to completely >>freestyle jamming at any moment. some of them produce a frightning amount of >>bass too...... >> >>i wholeheartedly recomend the practice to everybody. >> >>Kas. >> >>p.s. sorry about mentioning disco on the microsound list, i feel dirty now. > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Jun 29 13:59:47 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30907-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.83]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 29 Jun 2004 09:59:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 09:59:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 30586 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 14:00:04 +0000 Received: (qmail 30571 invoked from network); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 14:00:04 +0000 Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 23:00:00 +0900 From: shinjiro yamaguchi <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] synth toys In-reply-to: <001c01c45d5f$70905540$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxx.xxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Webmail-inter7 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx "casio tone" is good, too. it's very cheap sounds. best shinjiro >perhaps a yamaha cs-1? it uses sliders instead of knobs but that makes it >very small and sturdy. can be batery powered, has a speaker, idealy suited >for touring. best of all; it will do both noizes and synth lines. affordable >too. in my experience it needs a compressor or a limiter when used live >because tweaking the settings can cause huge volume changes but apart from >that it sounds like exactly what you want. > >looks good next to a casio sk-1 too. >link for your convenience; >http://www.synthmuseum.com/yamaha/yamcs101.html > >confession time; apart from my own experimental work i(I4(Bm also in a disco >project called "bangkok impact" (*ducks*). we(I4(Bve taken to using a lot of >small and toy keyboards on stage because you can throw a lot of them >inbetween your clothes in your suitcase, they take up little room on stage, >can be modified, don(I4(Bt crash and they enable us to switch to completely >freestyle jamming at any moment. some of them produce a frightning amount of >bass too...... > >i wholeheartedly recomend the practice to everybody. > >Kas. > >p.s. sorry about mentioning disco on the microsound list, i feel dirty now. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Jun 29 13:40:49 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30906-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.82]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 29 Jun 2004 09:40:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 09:39:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 20507 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 13:41:05 +0000 Received: (qmail 20495 invoked from network); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 13:41:05 +0000 Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 06:41:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Santiago Calvo <xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Re: microsound Digest 29 Jun 2004 13:06:54 -0000 Issue 1204 In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_9OjSDCEJJvCRlJ0m0hepxg)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_9OjSDCEJJvCRlJ0m0hepxg) Content-Type: text/plain; Charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit "how do you make a pun in music?" Well, I think there are many examples that come close to that. While the audience in general is not very music-literate, they can be culture-literate, and a variety of musical statements of varied complexity can be understood by the general audience. For example, Señor Coconut's re-appropiations of original composition from many sources as salsa/latin music could probably qualify as a musical "joke" that could be understood by most people. The Portsmouth Simphonia's versions of the popular classics too. Moreover, they can be enjoyed at many different levels. But it's true that in pure sound and musicological senses (stripping away the cultural aspects, to the extent that this is possible) it is a lot harder to make such complicated estatements and be widely understood. Regards, Santiago --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. --Boundary_(ID_9OjSDCEJJvCRlJ0m0hepxg)-- From ???@??? Tue Jun 29 13:28:07 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30905-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.111]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 29 Jun 2004 09:28:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 09:28:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 14869 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 13:28:24 +0000 Received: (qmail 14859 invoked from network); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 13:28:24 +0000 Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 06:28:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Josh Ronsen <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] book review: Fractals in Music In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx BOOK REVIEW "Fractals in Music: Introductory Mathematics for Musical Analysis" by Charles Madden The book's title is misleading: little is mentioned about fractals, geometric structures in which large elements mirror smaller elements, and nothing is specifically mentioned about musical works which use fractal-like structures, like John Cage's proportional rhythmic frameworks in the 1940s, or David Clarke Little's computer music in the 1990s. Most of the book is painfully dull, explaining how to use simple statistics (mean, standard deviation, etc.) to analyze melodies of some disparate examples: Xenakis' "Etona" (based on random organization), Schubert, a Gregorian chant, and melodies derived from white noise, brown noise and pink noise. Over half the book is spent picking through these examples, mathematically determining how "random," each piece is, which is a particularly boring thing to work through, and even more particularly useless. Madden never writes about how this information can be used, how this relates to fractals, or how any of this could be applied to music that is not a single voice of chromatic pitches. And in his examples, he doesnít examine a fractal melody to see how "random" that would be, or how random different fractal melodies would be. A middle chapter of the book goes through examples of composers using the Fibonacci number series (1, 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 11, etc), whose ratios of successive pairs approach the Greek "Golden Ratio" of 0.618. Much of this is spent counting measures to see if there is a significant musical moment at this point in pieces by Varese, Gershwin, Schoenberg, Bartok, and Stockhausen. Varese's "Hyperprism" is one bar off from having a major development at the Golden Mean point! Ultimately, we learn that this is an extremely dull concept to contemplate. And in a piece that lasts 200 measures, what noticeable difference is there if there is a change at measure 123 or 130? The human mind couldn't notice an audible difference between the two. All this said, the first two chapters are worthwhile reading, providing an overview of Chaos Theory (in which fractals play a useful part) and the natural harmonic and equal-temperament tunings. A more interesting piece on the use of fractals in music is Rolf Wallin's "Fractal Music - Red Herring or Promised Land?" written 10 years earlier. http://www.notam02.no/~rolfwa/Fractalarticle.html -Josh Ronsen in Austin, Texas __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Address AutoComplete - You start. We finish. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Jun 30 18:35:53 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30944-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.110]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 30 Jun 2004 14:35:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 14:35:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 11657 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 18:36:12 +0000 Received: (qmail 11644 invoked from network); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 18:36:11 +0000 Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 15:20:39 +0200 From: Kassen <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] synth toys (NM) To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <001c01c45ddb$e082b560$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <BD070025.15C2%xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx ndkent; > I'm sure you know the Nord Modular keyboard. No speaker of course and not a > full set of knobs. That's something recently discontinued in favor of a > larger unit (that supports current operating systems, something that until > someone successfully completely reverse engineers the old Nord is going to > be a real issue unless you still use Win98 or OS9) I´m not sure about the Mac side of things, but the nord´s OS *should* run fine under XP. In fact I edit mine from my laptop under XP and often have the editor open during live performances with which I mean to say that it´s stable enough that i´d risk my reputation on in. I accidently happen to know one of the nord modular´s aplha testers and i can tell you he uses his own pair of micro modulars from a XP desktop too. The only side effect of running it under XP that i know off is that it remembers it´s midi port setting better if you set the program to run in this "compatibility mode", apart from that you should be fine. I also know that a p90 with a minimal configuration of win98 can handle the Nord´s editor so a pc emulation might be a option for OS X users that want to edit a Nord? Hope that is of some help to somebody..... Yours, Kas. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Jun 29 13:19:00 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30904-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 29 Jun 2004 09:19:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 09:16:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 10723 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 13:19:16 +0000 Received: (qmail 10713 invoked from network); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 13:19:16 +0000 Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 06:19:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Josh Ronsen <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Re: books In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >Free Play - Improvisation in Life & Art by Stephen Nachmanovitch How was this? This has sat on my shelf for the past 5? 6? 7? years unread. I am afraid it will be a waste of time for me. -Josh Ronsen in Austin, Texas __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Address AutoComplete - You start. We finish. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Jun 29 13:06:37 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30903-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.83]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 29 Jun 2004 09:06:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 09:06:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 5250 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 13:06:53 +0000 Received: (qmail 5239 invoked from network); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 13:06:53 +0000 Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 13:06:51 +0000 From: Onda Sonora Radio <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Onda Sonora in Mp3 X-Originating-IP: [82.223.39.204] X-Sender: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Bcc: Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Originating-Email: [xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Jun 2004 13:06:52.0352 (UTC) FILETIME=[F20E3400:01C45DD9] Hola a todos, os informamos que ya se puede escuchar Onda Sonora a través de la web www.ondasonoraradio.com en la seccion escuchar. La página se actualizará semanalmente incluyendo todos los sonidos, junto a la información habitual sobre los contenidos de la semana. It is finally possible listening to Onda Sonora via mp3 through Ondasonoraradio.com, in section listen. The site will be updated weekly with the new session, in addition to the contents section with all the information on the featured artists Best Regards Onda Sonora _________________________________________________________________ Un amor, una aventura, compañía para un viaje. Regístrate gratis en MSN Amor & Amistad. http://match.msn.es/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Jun 29 12:17:19 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30902-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.83]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 29 Jun 2004 08:17:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 08:17:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 90197 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 12:17:35 +0000 Received: (qmail 90187 invoked from network); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 12:17:35 +0000 Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 08:53:01 -0400 From: john saylor <xx@xxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Re: summer book lists? In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx hi ( 04.06.29 00:45 -0400 ) andrew jones: > How do you make a pun in music? i guess it depends on the know-ts. -- \js . <-~'>}! +}| <| )[.< --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Jun 29 12:15:56 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30901-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 29 Jun 2004 08:15:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 08:13:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 89055 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 12:16:12 +0000 Received: (qmail 89043 invoked from network); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 12:16:12 +0000 Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 08:51:38 -0400 From: john saylor <xx@xxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Re: summer book lists? In-reply-to: <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx hi ( 04.06.29 01:13 +0000 ) Phil Thomson: > I guess you could do this with computer music too. yes- it would make a great project [glich music is about putting things in a new context, and some people here do music by putting field recordings in a different context]. maybe the rules are like this: - get a list of 'players' - create 10 [or 7] seconds of music - take the last second and put it in a different file - remove this last second from the orinal file and 'submit' it - send the 'last second' to the next person on the list - when all the pieces are done, they can be strung together any takers? > One person could write a line of zeroes and ones on a sheet of paper > and pass it to the next person. this could be done too, but what about using computer files to hold the binary data? i'd imagine it'd be much more non-linear than the way i suggest above. this is not saying anything about better or worse. -- \js %'~ "_[+_#' =/) \}/-^ \]( --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Jun 29 11:29:00 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30899-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.86]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 29 Jun 2004 07:29:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 07:29:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 78883 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 11:29:15 +0000 Received: (qmail 78873 invoked from network); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 11:29:15 +0000 Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 12:29:45 +0100 From: "eric.namour" <xxxx@xxxxxxx.xx.xx> Subject: [microsound] [sans.signal] @ london spitz 15.07 To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.618) Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_WIlwCpRi51qi1l5ZZv8d/w)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Score: -99.1 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_WIlwCpRi51qi1l5ZZv8d/w) Content-Type: text/plain; Charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit (please forward if/when appropriate) Hello || [sans.signal] @ the spitz: thursday july 15 | 7pm - late -- [no.signal] (http://nosignal.slab.org) presents, as a prelude to the 2nd edition of the London Placard (http://state51.org/placard), a 'Nuit Française' of musique électronique et expérimentale from guitar-based processes to lo-fi electronica passing through abstract experimental melodies and sound treatments with: || dDamage [planet_mu] || Discom [deco] || heller [n-rec] | Sebastien Roux [12K / apestaartje] || pez orchestra [aka anne_laforet ] || noun alternate music selection by e-di [heller] & e/n [no.signal] all info/bios, reviews/mp3s/photos @ http://nosignal.slab.org tickets | £7 (in adv. @ http://www.wegottickets.com/gig.asp?3394) (special price for members of the [no.signal] list @ http://nosignal.sonomu.net) ||||| Thanks for your precious attention Best e/n -- [no.signal] http://nosignal.slab.org http://nosignal.sonomu.net --Boundary_(ID_WIlwCpRi51qi1l5ZZv8d/w)-- From ???@??? Tue Jun 29 08:07:19 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30898-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.81]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 29 Jun 2004 04:07:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 04:07:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 42121 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 08:07:40 +0000 Received: (qmail 42106 invoked from network); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 08:07:39 +0000 Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 11:07:46 +0300 From: visa <xxxx.xxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Re: summer book lists? To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <00bb01c45db0$2980ca30$xxxxxxxx@xxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 Content-type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > How do you make a pun in music? I'd say by intertextuality. You know all this talk about art as a discourse, it's pretty common (even more so in classical music) to refer to others' work in a piece of music. Often this is done humorously, though I'm not sure if it still could be called a pun. Obviously the references are misse by the majority of listeners, but not by all. Visa --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Jun 29 05:56:08 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30897-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 29 Jun 2004 01:56:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 01:53:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 13649 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 05:56:26 +0000 Received: (qmail 13634 invoked from network); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 05:56:26 +0000 Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 22:56:21 -0700 From: "Rudolph A. Carrera" <xxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] summer book lists? In-reply-to: <xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: xxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> Organization: Carrera-Linn Cultural Exchange MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7 (Windows/20040616) X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx murray ward wrote: > currently reading: > > Sync by Steven Strogatz > Countdown to mathematics by Lynne Graham & David Sargent > > Previously: > > The Soft Machine by William S. Burroughs > Fictions by Jorge luis Borges > The Compuiter Music Tutorial by Curtis Roads > > Best > Murray > (dj_spleenbaby) Murray; Have you read the non-fictions yet? I've been hooken on it since returning from Macedonia some months ago. Borges' books are almost impossible for me to put down. Best, Rudy --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Jun 29 05:41:10 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30895-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.86]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 29 Jun 2004 01:41:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 01:41:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 8393 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 05:41:28 +0000 Received: (qmail 8382 invoked from network); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 05:41:28 +0000 Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 01:42:55 -0400 From: richard chartier / LINE <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] OT(yet on topic) FOR SALE: Ego-sys Waveterminal U2A usb sound interface PC/MAC X-Originating-IP: 12.4.215.225 To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>, xxxxxxxxx-xxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.613) Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_6WvuPyZyLR9PI+PwGvGyqg)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-ELNK-Trace: da01c0b8c04c08e3465474834dc8382a40683398e744b8a4058832e271b1d307ee3c4ec9acd9de52a8438e0f32a48e08350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_6WvuPyZyLR9PI+PwGvGyqg) Content-Type: text/plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit hello, sorry for the cross posting.... but for all the talk about sound cards.. i wanted to offer this to other artists/musicians on the list prior to placing it on ebay. always nicer to have it go to a good home and continue helping someone make interesting sounds/music... a nice small portable little unit! perfect for the studio or traveling , live gigs richard $90 (including shipping in the USA) perfect condition in box with all manuals and cables.. for PC or MAC Waveterminal U2A - Portable, Multi-functional EGO SYS is always on the cutting edge of the professional audio industry. Once again, EGOSYS is one step ahead , introducing the Waveterminal U2A. This versatile USB interface is not only affordable, it is extremly portable (9X9 cm). Its multiple features make the U2A a studio pocketknife for desktop music production. The U2A offers 3 stereo input options (coaxial, optical, and analog) that you can select one at a time while the output signal is available on all 3 output formats at the same time. This feature can make the U2A act as a signal converter between coaxial & optical audio. The Analog I/Os of the U2A are supported with ultra-wide range 24-bit AD/DA converters, and unbalanced 1/4" phone jack connections. The U2A supports 3 multiple sampling rates(32, 44.1, 48K) with a Real-time hardware Sample Rate Converter. The U2A is compatible with Microsoft Windows 98SE, ME, 2000 and Windows XP WDM Drivers supporting MME and DirectSound. It also includes the ASIO 2.0 Driver. Macintosh Apple Sound Manager and Mac ASIO are supported as well. Specifications. - 16-bit playback & record resolution - Gold-tipped S/PDIF Coaxial & Optical digital I/O - 24-bit, high-quality, stereo A/D, D/A converters : 100dB(A/D), 110dB - (D/A) Dynamic Range - Signal to Noise ratio (D/A) : 110dB - -10dBv UnBalanced 1/4" phone jack - Simultaneous audio output through both analog and S/PDIF for easy- - mix monitoring - Internal Digital Mixer for Input Monitoring. - 32, 44.1 and 48K sampling rates supported - Real-time hardware Sample Rate Converter - installation : no "IRQs" or "DMAs" to set, no I/O addresses to configure - connects externally: no computer surgery - Extreme portability(9 X 9cm). - Includes convenient 2-meter USB cable - Microsoft Windows 98SE/ME/2000/XP MME & DirectSound Driver, ASIO 2.0 support. - Macintosh ASIO driver and Sound Manager drivers available. R I C H A R D C H A R T I E R http://www.3particles.com xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx <<< CD . 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Tue Jun 29 05:41:14 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30896-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.83]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 29 Jun 2004 01:41:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 01:41:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 9172 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 05:41:33 +0000 Received: (qmail 9161 invoked from network); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 05:41:33 +0000 Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 01:42:41 -0400 From: richard chartier / LINE <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] OT(yet on topic) FOR SALE: Ego-sys Waveterminal U2A usb sound interface PC/MAC X-Originating-IP: 12.4.215.225 To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>, xxxxxxxxx-xxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.613) Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_6MKJzBuMDmpxYJoJAhyr2g)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-ELNK-Trace: da01c0b8c04c08e3465474834dc8382a40683398e744b8a4058832e271b1d3079cb913db364ce8f093caf27dac41a8fd350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_6MKJzBuMDmpxYJoJAhyr2g) Content-Type: text/plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit hello, sorry for the cross posting.... but for all the talk about sound cards.. i wanted to offer this to other artists/musicians on the list prior to placing it on ebay. always nicer to have it go to a good home and continue helping someone make interesting sounds/music... a nice small portable little unit! perfect for the studio or traveling , live gigs richard $100 (including shipping in the USA) perfect condition in box with all manuals and cables.. for PC or MAC Waveterminal U2A - Portable, Multi-functional EGO SYS is always on the cutting edge of the professional audio industry. Once again, EGOSYS is one step ahead , introducing the Waveterminal U2A. This versatile USB interface is not only affordable, it is extremly portable (9X9 cm). Its multiple features make the U2A a studio pocketknife for desktop music production. The U2A offers 3 stereo input options (coaxial, optical, and analog) that you can select one at a time while the output signal is available on all 3 output formats at the same time. This feature can make the U2A act as a signal converter between coaxial & optical audio. The Analog I/Os of the U2A are supported with ultra-wide range 24-bit AD/DA converters, and unbalanced 1/4" phone jack connections. The U2A supports 3 multiple sampling rates(32, 44.1, 48K) with a Real-time hardware Sample Rate Converter. The U2A is compatible with Microsoft Windows 98SE, ME, 2000 and Windows XP WDM Drivers supporting MME and DirectSound. It also includes the ASIO 2.0 Driver. Macintosh Apple Sound Manager and Mac ASIO are supported as well. Specifications. - 16-bit playback & record resolution - Gold-tipped S/PDIF Coaxial & Optical digital I/O - 24-bit, high-quality, stereo A/D, D/A converters : 100dB(A/D), 110dB - (D/A) Dynamic Range - Signal to Noise ratio (D/A) : 110dB - -10dBv UnBalanced 1/4" phone jack - Simultaneous audio output through both analog and S/PDIF for easy- - mix monitoring - Internal Digital Mixer for Input Monitoring. - 32, 44.1 and 48K sampling rates supported - Real-time hardware Sample Rate Converter - installation : no "IRQs" or "DMAs" to set, no I/O addresses to configure - connects externally: no computer surgery - Extreme portability(9 X 9cm). - Includes convenient 2-meter USB cable - Microsoft Windows 98SE/ME/2000/XP MME & DirectSound Driver, ASIO 2.0 support. - Macintosh ASIO driver and Sound Manager drivers available. R I C H A R D C H A R T I E R http://www.3particles.com xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx <<< CD . William Basinski + Richard Chartier [ Spekk, Japan ] CDROM . 00:dedaih [ Synchron, Switzerland ] CD . Chessmachine ( with Ivan Pavlov/COH) [ Mutek_rec, Canada] >>> LIVE . Los Angeles Museum of Contemporary Art [ LA ] June 24 LIVE . Recombinant Labs Compound [ SF ] June 25, 26 CD . "retrieval#3" on Placodes [ n160. Japan ] Aug CD . Set or Performance [ LINE, US ] Sept CHARTIER ONLINE STORE: http://www.3particles.com/paypal --Boundary_(ID_6MKJzBuMDmpxYJoJAhyr2g)-- From ???@??? Tue Jun 29 05:35:37 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30894-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.111]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 29 Jun 2004 01:35:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 01:35:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 5860 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 05:35:56 +0000 Received: (qmail 5850 invoked from network); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 05:35:56 +0000 Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 22:35:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Adverbialsensationalist <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] summer book lists? To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_jrJJOMvdekvfP+V0m7P6jQ)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_jrJJOMvdekvfP+V0m7P6jQ) Content-Type: text/plain; Charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit recommend: 1. the intimate machine close encounters with computers and robots (neil frude) 2. the population bomb (dr. paul ehrlich) 3. the metamorphosis (franz kafka) 4. the book (alan watts) 5. conversations w/ god an uncommon dialogue i, ii, iii (neale donald walsch) and of course still treasuring my microsound book. dom __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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Tue Jun 29 04:54:38 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30893-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 29 Jun 2004 00:54:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 00:52:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 92024 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 04:54:58 +0000 Received: (qmail 92009 invoked from network); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 04:54:57 +0000 Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 04:54:50 +0000 (UTC) From: Phil Thomson <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Re: summer book lists? In-reply-to: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> X-X-Sender: xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Boundary_(ID_lwIeMV8zsQeMknv9GRQG1A)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_lwIeMV8zsQeMknv9GRQG1A) Content-Type: text/plain; Charset=X-UNKNOWN Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit The most recent film by him has excerpts from Hildegard Westerkamp and won a Palme d'Or at Cannes. On Tue, 29 Jun 2004, scott allison wrote: > Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 03:45:48 +0000 > From: scott allison <xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> > Reply-To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> > To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > Subject: Re: [microsound] Re: summer book lists? > > ok, not a book... > > but a really nice movie that one might think of as "microsound" or better yet > "lowercase" called "Jerry" by Gus Van Sant, and yes its got Matt Damon and > Ben Afflects little brother, at times this movie feels like it might have > been directed by Bernhard Gunter, really an excellent film. Thanks Dominico > for showing this one to me. > > Scott Allison > > _________________________________________________________________ > MSN Toolbar provides one-click access to Hotmail from any Web page – FREE > download! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200413ave/direct/01/ > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > ========= Phil Thomson home: http://www.sfu.ca/~pthomson label: http://centibel.org/ group: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/databenders/ ========= SDF Public Access UNIX System http://www.freeshell.org/ Geekier than you since 1987. --Boundary_(ID_lwIeMV8zsQeMknv9GRQG1A) Content-Type: text/plain; Charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org --Boundary_(ID_lwIeMV8zsQeMknv9GRQG1A)-- From ???@??? Tue Jun 29 04:47:56 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30892-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 29 Jun 2004 00:47:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 00:47:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 87698 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 04:48:14 +0000 Received: (qmail 87687 invoked from network); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 04:48:13 +0000 Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 00:45:18 -0400 From: andrew jones <xxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Re: summer book lists? In-reply-to: <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.553) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=WINDOWS-1252 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx true, but that's a blind experiment. what I'm thinking of here is that you have to be experienced in the basic structures of language (i.e. grammar etc.) to read, but you don't have to know dick to enjoy music. Hence an author can play with words knowing his audience will (hopefully get it) while a musician can cleverly blend all sorts of structures behind music and yet if it doesn't make an aesthetic effect, your average listening won't know. How do you make a pun in music? - A On Monday, June 28, 2004, at 09:13 PM, Phil Thomson wrote: > > My composition teacher told me about the experience of playing the > surrealist game of "Exquisite Corpses" with several of his friends in > his student days. One would take a sheet of music paper and write a > line of music plus a note, fold it over, and pass it to the next > person who would proceed from the last note of the person before them. > > I guess you could do this with computer music too. One person could > write a line of zeroes and ones on a sheet of paper and pass it to the > next person. The last person could unfold the sheet and type it into a > hex editor and put a soundfile header on it and burn it to CD. Just a > thought. > > P > > > On Mon, 28 Jun 2004, andrew jones wrote: > >> Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 18:19:38 -0400 >> From: andrew jones <xxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> >> Reply-To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> >> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> >> Subject: Re: [microsound] Re: summer book lists? >>> "Flaubert’s Parrot" by Julian Barnes >> >> ahh Flaubert's Parrot. that's a good one. >> on another note, how do you take the cleverness >> of literary games to music? i mean you have to >> know a language to read it, but you don't have >> to know music to listen to it, hence a lot of the >> word play and tricks that mark great literature >> seem to be less translatable to music. >> >> - >> A >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> website: http://www.microsound.org >> >> >> > > ========= > Phil Thomson > home: http://www.sfu.ca/~pthomson > label: http://centibel.org/ > group: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/databenders/ > ========= > > SDF Public Access UNIX System > http://www.freeshell.org/ > Geekier than you since 1987. > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org Andrew Jones 912 Euclid Ave. Birmingham, AL, 35213 407-927-7607 aim: liminal18 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Jun 29 03:45:34 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30891-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 28 Jun 2004 23:45:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 28 Jun 2004 23:43:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 69585 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 03:45:52 +0000 Received: (qmail 69575 invoked from network); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 03:45:52 +0000 Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 03:45:48 +0000 From: scott allison <xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Re: summer book lists? X-Originating-IP: [141.156.35.75] X-Sender: xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Bcc: Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Originating-Email: [xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Jun 2004 03:45:48.0602 (UTC) FILETIME=[90E599A0:01C45D8B] ok, not a book... but a really nice movie that one might think of as "microsound" or better yet "lowercase" called "Jerry" by Gus Van Sant, and yes its got Matt Damon and Ben Afflects little brother, at times this movie feels like it might have been directed by Bernhard Gunter, really an excellent film. Thanks Dominico for showing this one to me. Scott Allison _________________________________________________________________ MSN Toolbar provides one-click access to Hotmail from any Web page – FREE download! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200413ave/direct/01/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Jun 29 03:26:47 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30890-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 28 Jun 2004 23:26:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 28 Jun 2004 23:24:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 63339 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 03:27:06 +0000 Received: (qmail 63329 invoked from network); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 03:27:05 +0000 Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 20:27:01 -0700 From: Kim Cascone <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] synth toys To: microsound_list <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BD062F92.203E9%xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.0.6 X-Loop-Detect: 1 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx I'm looking for a small analog synth with a keyboard, lots of knobs and a built-in speaker...battery and/or AC powered is ok...something like the monophonic SH-101 but smaller...a kit is ok...something like the Technosaurus Microcon II but with a keyboard would be perfect... as I've not been following the synth hardware market for a long time I am unaware of what strange little synth toys might be lurking about...anyone recommend something? thanks in advance! KIM --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Jun 29 03:03:22 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30889-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.109]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 28 Jun 2004 23:03:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 28 Jun 2004 23:03:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 59042 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 03:03:41 +0000 Received: (qmail 59032 invoked from network); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 03:03:40 +0000 Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 22:03:36 -0500 From: erik schoster <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] summer book lists? In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xx.xxx.xx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xx.xxx.xx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx last 5 articles, most online: -dartmouth symposium on the future of computer music - eric lyon, et al. computer music journal -damaged sound - caleb stuart -recursive audio cutting - nick collins -john cage and recording - yasunao tone (very interesting!) leonardo music journal -the death of the author - roland barthes aspen no. 5+6, item 3 (via ubu.com) mostly been doing research lately, so it's been articles articles articles.... though i'm looking forward to sinking my teeth into "atom" by issac asimov, and "america" by jean baudrillard this summer. -erik --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Jun 29 01:32:56 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30888-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.110]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 28 Jun 2004 21:32:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 28 Jun 2004 21:32:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 33898 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 01:33:14 +0000 Received: (qmail 33888 invoked from network); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 01:33:14 +0000 Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 20:39:04 -0500 From: john kannenberg <xxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] summer book lists? In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-Sender: xxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx@mail.stasisfield.com To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <p06002000bd06761228d1@[209.86.112.66]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Here's mine: - "A Canticle For Leibowitz" by Walter M. Miller Jr. - "Cy Twombly, A Retrospective" - MOMA catalogue, 1994, by Kirk Varnedoe - "The Auditory Culture Reader" edited by Michael Bull + Les Back - "Supercade: A Visual History of the Videogame Age, 1971-1984" by Van Burnham - "House of Bush, House of Saud" by Craig Unger -- >> john kannenberg [ http://www.stasisfield.com ] [ http://www.whistlingpariah.com ] -- OUT NOW. -- on Grain of Sound > "indeterminate topography" : 6 new digital image compositions in the premiere issue of Sonic Scope Quarterly, a visual arts magazine [ http://www.grainofsound.com/gos_v3/news.htm ] -- on Retinascan > Gelidus : A sonic interpretation of extreme cold in six parts [ http://www.retinascan.de/compactdiscs/fcd35.htm ] --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Jun 29 01:13:04 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30886-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 28 Jun 2004 21:13:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 28 Jun 2004 21:12:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 26782 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 01:13:22 +0000 Received: (qmail 26768 invoked from network); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 01:13:22 +0000 Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 01:13:11 +0000 (UTC) From: Phil Thomson <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Re: summer book lists? In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> X-X-Sender: xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Boundary_(ID_u2m94pCVXCASjkiZfWNGfA)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_u2m94pCVXCASjkiZfWNGfA) Content-Type: text/plain; Charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit My composition teacher told me about the experience of playing the surrealist game of "Exquisite Corpses" with several of his friends in his student days. One would take a sheet of music paper and write a line of music plus a note, fold it over, and pass it to the next person who would proceed from the last note of the person before them. I guess you could do this with computer music too. One person could write a line of zeroes and ones on a sheet of paper and pass it to the next person. The last person could unfold the sheet and type it into a hex editor and put a soundfile header on it and burn it to CD. Just a thought. P On Mon, 28 Jun 2004, andrew jones wrote: > Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 18:19:38 -0400 > From: andrew jones <xxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> > Reply-To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> > To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> > Subject: Re: [microsound] Re: summer book lists? > >> >> "Flaubert’s Parrot" by Julian Barnes >> > > ahh Flaubert's Parrot. that's a good one. > on another note, how do you take the cleverness > of literary games to music? i mean you have to > know a language to read it, but you don't have > to know music to listen to it, hence a lot of the > word play and tricks that mark great literature > seem to be less translatable to music. > > - > A > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > > ========= Phil Thomson home: http://www.sfu.ca/~pthomson label: http://centibel.org/ group: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/databenders/ ========= SDF Public Access UNIX System http://www.freeshell.org/ Geekier than you since 1987. --Boundary_(ID_u2m94pCVXCASjkiZfWNGfA) Content-Type: text/plain; Charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org --Boundary_(ID_u2m94pCVXCASjkiZfWNGfA)-- From ???@??? Tue Jun 29 01:14:04 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30887-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.110]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 28 Jun 2004 21:14:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 28 Jun 2004 21:13:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 27753 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 01:14:22 +0000 Received: (qmail 27742 invoked from network); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 01:14:22 +0000 Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 13:12:44 +1200 From: xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx.xx Subject: [microsound] books In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-Sender: xxxxxx@xxx.xxxx.xx.xx To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <p06100513bd06709ad836@[192.168.1.4]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Design Noir - the secret life of electronic objects by Anthony Dunne & Fiona Raby Obey the Giant by Rick Poynor Free Play - Improvisation in Life & Art by Stephen Nachmanovitch Len Lye - biography by Roger Horrocks Silence by Christina Feldman -- "I call architecture frozen music" J.W.Goethe --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Jun 29 01:06:23 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30885-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 28 Jun 2004 21:06:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 28 Jun 2004 21:04:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 22423 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 01:06:40 +0000 Received: (qmail 22412 invoked from network); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 01:06:40 +0000 Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 21:08:32 -0400 From: graham miller <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] off-topic but inspiring To: Microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73C-SYMPA (Macintosh; U; PPC) Content-type: text/plain; x-mac-creator=4D4F5353; x-mac-type=54455854; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en,fr-CA Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx http://www.michaelmoore.com/_media/images/mikes_log_photos/94.jpg --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Jun 29 00:11:53 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30884-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 28 Jun 2004 20:11:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 28 Jun 2004 20:09:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 5584 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 00:12:11 +0000 Received: (qmail 5574 invoked from network); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 00:12:10 +0000 Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 17:12:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Brian Klein <xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: RE: [microsound] musical language/science writing To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > I can't believe they even say that the schoenberg > has less structure. > Certainly, they were looking for it in the wrong > place. i agree in the oddness of saying the schoenberg composition has less structure. it seems almost contradictory considering the earlier statements that "All of the pieces showed a text-like distribution, especially for the higher-ranking notes. But the strength of the relationship varied," and in relation to the schoenberg piece and atonal music "This means that the piece does not have a set vocabulary of commonly used words that keep appearing. Instead, the size of the vocabulary increases at about the same rate as the length of the piece; new "words" are constantly introduced, while earlier ones are seldom repeated." the author seems to overgeneralize or contradict both his and zanette's statements with that sentence. first, saying that the structures vary, and then briefly saying that there is less structure. weird. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - 100MB free storage! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? 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It is obvious that using a simplistic criterion like number of occurrences of each note will certainly create "context": common practice in music has that as a consequence by its own very nature, not as a driving force. A simple counter-argument dismisses such a thesis -- grab each of the pieces mentioned and randomize the notes. I doubt our ears would be able to discern said "context"; nevertheless, it would be there according to the analysis. I can't believe they even say that the schoenberg has less structure. Certainly, they were looking for it in the wrong place. A more accurate analysis would need to measure distance between notes, not the notes themselves. I guess they are oblivious of the extensive work of Steven Pope. //P http://www.interdisciplina.org/00.0/ > -----Original Message----- > From: Kim Cascone [mailto:xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx] > Sent: Monday, June 28, 2004 2:11 PM > To: microsound_list > Subject: [microsound] musical language > > > http://www.nature.com/nsu/040614/040614-11.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? 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Miércoles. 15:00-16:00. 100.4 Fm www.circulobellasartes.com Radio Autònoma. Martes-Jueves-Sabado. 18:00-19:00 www.uam.es/radio Radio Enlace. Martes. 19:00-20:00. 107.5 Fm. Madrid Contenidos Onda Sonora (Radio Sesiones Experimentales) 30-06-04 01. ENSEMBLE SUPERMUSIQUE Track: Septuor Album: Canevas Label: Ambiances Magnetiques Notable formacion canadiense en el que participan hasta 18 componentes que han grabado un disco entre el free jazz y la improvisacion a partir de extractos de un total de 15 conciertos del combo entre 1998 y 2004 02. FALAISE, SAMWORTH, TANGUAY, VAN DER SCHYFF Track: Yes, Happy Chew Album: The Unexpected One Label: Ambiances Magnetiques Encuentro entre dos guitarristas y dos percusionistas con gran reputacion dentro de la escena de improvisacion libre canadiense, Bernard Falaise y Ron Samworth entre los primeros, y Dylan Van Der Shyff y Pierre Tanguay entre los segundos. El disco oscila entre lo minimal y lo desatado y se puede encontrar tambien a traves del catalogo del sello Ambiances Magnetiques 03. MÉLANIE AUCLAIR Track: 4'8 Album: Puce À l'oreille Label: Ambiances Magnetiques Album de debut de Mélanie Auclair, compositora, cantante y chelista de formacion clasica pero propuesta experimental que se reunio con varios amigos para componer este emotivo Puce À l'oreille 04. JASCH Track: Phenotype Album: Shimmer Label: Doc Recordings Interesante artista suizo interesado en la improvisacion, el jazz y la música electroacústica cuyo excelente nuevo trabajo presenta nuevos elementos en sus composiciones gracias a la introduccion extensiva del ordenador en el proceso de creación 05. CM VON HAUSSWOLF Track: 3 Album: THREE OVERPOPULATED CITIES BUILT BY... Label: Sub Rosa Primera de las tres ciudades superpobladas construidas por el pionero sueco Carl Michael Hausswolf para su nuevo disco en Sub Rosa, aunque normalmente publica en Touch, un disco inspirado en el caos de las metrópolis modernas en la linea de formaciones de la era post industrial como The Hafler Trio, con el que ya colaboró en el pasado 06. LUC FERRARI Track: The Red Shoes. l'estaque, France, July 2002 Album: Les Anecdotiques Label: Sub Rosa Nuevo trabajo de Luc Ferrari, un parisino de espiritu libre que a sus 75 años y despues de una larga histora de actividad musical que le unio a Pierre Schaeffer en su grupo de musica concreta y tambien al grupo de investigaciones musicales alla por los años 60, ha trabajado en los más variados campos como la radio, la composicion contemporanea o la música para cinta 07. SCHURER Track: Palpitant Album Vexations Label: Domizil Particular homenaje de Bernd Schurer a uno de los instrumentos más influyentes en el desarrollo de la música occidental, el piano. Un total de 28 composiciones tituladas conjuntamente Vexations, como la famosa obra de Erik Satie, aunque Schurer introduce en sus poemas sonoros todo tipo de transformaciones de orden digital 08. ZELLE Track: Nw 1 Album: Rjctd::nw Label: Cubicfabric Segundo trabajo del duo italiano Zelle, dos años despues de su debut en el sello Line. Un disco que parte de la música concreta para aproximarse a las nuevas tecnologías de proceso digital 09. HOLKHAM Track: The Conversation / Bose Bose Album: Komatta Saru Label: Expanding Debut de Simon Keep, un diseñador de sonido britanico que se hace llamar Holkham en Expandig Records, un disco que precede lo que será su primer trabajo en Sub Rosa y del que sonaran dos excelentes cortes 10. LULLATONE Track: My Petit Prelude Album: Little Songs About Raindrops Label: Plop Breve corte que abre Little Songs About Raindrops, el nuevo disco de un norteamericano residente en Japon llamado Lullatone. Este nuevo disco ha sido editado en oriente por Plop y aquí en occidente parece que se hará cargo Audiodregs, que ya publicaba el año pasado su Computer Recital 11. PATERAS / BAXTER / BROWN Track: Bulbous Album: Ataxia Label: Synaesthesia Nos trasladamos a Australia para escuchar la colaboracion entre tres musicos de Melbourne, el pianista Anthony Pateras, el percusionista Sean Baxter y el guitarrista David Brown con un disco titulado Ataxia, haciendo referencia a la perdida de coordinacion muscular 12. [SIC] Track: Moray Firth Album: Gorilla Masking Tape Label: Piehead Regreso de la canadiense Yew Morris, aka [Sic], en este caso con otra serie de composiciones introspectivas para un album de corte minimal en un entorno ambient, un disco que edita desde Toronto Piehead Records, en edicion limitada 13. THE SLEAZY LISTENERS Track: Cutting School Album: The Romance Is Over Label: Squirrelgirl Música editada por el sello de la canadiense [SIC], Squirrel Girl, la muchacha ardilla, se trata de música creada por ordenador que combina la magia digital del noruego Lasse Marhaug y los collages del canadiense Zev Ashery, un notable homenaje a las orquestaciones pop en clave exploratoria y experimental tras dos años de intercambio de grabaciones a distancia 14. FRANK BRETSCHNEIDER Track: Night Broadcast Album: Looping I-VI (And Other Assoted Love Songs) Label: 12k Esta semana nos despedimos con un aclamado artista aleman que casi no necesita presentacion, Frank Bretsschneider, a quien hace poco pudimos ver en Madrid bajo su seudonimo Komet. Este es su regreso en el sello norteamericano 12k, un disco que continua la senda marcada por sus anteriores trabajos en 12k como Rausch, y fuera de 12k para compañias como Mille Plateaux, Bip-hop o Raster-noton, de la cual es miembro fundador English Version Contents Onda Sonora (Experimental Radio Sessions) 30-06-04 01. ENSEMBLE SUPERMUSIQUE Track: Septuor Album: Canevas Label: Ambiances Magnetiques We open this week's session with L'Ensemble Supermusique, a Canadian formation in which 18 components take part. They have recorded an album titled Canevas with diverse extracts from a total of 5 concerts between 1998 and 2004. New release of Ambiances Magnetiques 02. FALAISE, SAMWORTH, TANGUAY, VAN DER SCHYFF Track: Yes, Happy Chew Album: The Unexpected One Label: Ambiances Magnetiques The meeting between 2 guitarrists and 2 percussionists from the Canadian free improvisation scene: Bernard Falaise and Ron Samworth between the first, and Dylan Van Der Schyff and Pierre Tanguay between the second ones. They have titled their new album in Ambiances Magnetiques The Unexpected One 03. MÉLANIE AUCLAIR Track: 4'8 Album: Puce À l'oreille Label: Ambiances Magnetiques The third new cd from Ambiances Magnetiques, debut album for Melanie Auclair, composer, singer and cellist with a classical formation but experimental aims that joined some friends to create this emotive piece 04. JASCH Track: Phenotype Album: Shimmer Label: Doc Recordings After starting in Canada with Ambiances Magnetiques, we return to Europe with a Swiss artist interested in improvisation in jazz and specially electroacoustic, Jasch, whose new work Shimmer -recently released in the dOc label-, presents some new elements owing to the extensive introduction of the computer in the creative process 05. CM VON HAUSSWOLF Track: 3 Album: THREE OVERPOPULATED CITIES BUILT BY... Label: Sub Rosa The sound of the first of the three overpopulated cities built by the Sweddish pioneer Carl-Michael Von Hausswolf for his new album in the Sub Rosa label -though he usually releases in Touch-, a piece inspired in the chaos of modern metropolis. In the line of post-industrial formations such as The Hafler Trio, with who collaborated in the past 06. LUC FERRARI Track: The Red Shoes. l'estaque, France, July 2002 Album: Les Anecdotiques Label: Sub Rosa Luc Ferrari is a free-minded Parisian in his 70s after a long history of musical activity that brought him to Pierre Schaeffer's Music Groupe de Musique Concrete and later to the Groupe de Investigations Musicals in the 60s and finally to a vast creation in diverse directions with an experimental horizon 07. SCHURER Track: Palpitant Album Vexations Label: Domizil Bernd Schurer's particular homage to an instrument with such a great importance in the development of occidental music, the piano. A total of 28 compositions titled jointly Vexations, as the famous work by Erik Satie, though Schurer introduces digital transformations 08. ZELLE Track: Nw 1 Album: Rjctd::nw Label: Cubicfabric The second work of the Italian duo Z_E_L_L_E, two years after their debut in Line. A record that starts in the concrete point to approach the new technologies in digital processing. Released by the active Japanese label CubicFabric, after the Tape remixes we could enjoy last week 09. HOLKHAM Track: The Conversation / Bose Bose Album: Komatta Saru Label: Expanding Debut of the British sound designer Simon Keep in Expanding Records. This record anticipates his first work for Sub Rosa 10. LULLATONE Track: My Petit Prelude Album: Little Songs About Raindrops Label: Plop Lullatone is a North-America currently residing in Japan; his new album is being handed by both Plop and Audio Dregs labels, the second has already released his Computer Recital 11. PATERAS / BAXTER / BROWN Track: Bulbous Album: Ataxia Label: Synaesthesia A label, Synaesthesia, and three musicians from Melbourne, Australia: Anthony Pateras -prepared piano-, Sean Baxter -percussions- and David Brown -prepared guitar-. Ataxia makes reference to the loss of muscular co-ordination 12. [SIC] Track: Moray Firth Album: Gorilla Masking Tape Label: Piehead The return of the Canadian Jen Morris, [sic], in this case with some introspective compositions for a record with a minimal taste in an ambiental environment. Toronto's Piehead Records limited release 13. THE SLEAZY LISTENERS Track: Cutting School Album: The Romance Is Over Label: Squirrelgirl This album comes from Jen Morris' own label Squirrellgirl. Collaboration between Norwegian Lasse Marhaug and Canadian Zev Asher, a tribute to pop orchestrations after two years mailing sounds 14. FRANK BRETSCHNEIDER Track: Night Broadcast Album: Looping I-VI (And Other Assoted Love Songs) Label: 12k An acclaimed German artist that needs almost no presentation, Frank Bretschneider, whom we could see in Madrid not long time ago under his Komet moniker. 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X-Originating-IP: [81.155.252.161] X-Sender: xx_xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Bcc: Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Originating-Email: [xx_xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Jun 2004 22:47:03.0697 (UTC) FILETIME=[D4D22810:01C45D61] sorry about the obvious grammer and spelling mistakes but i've had a lot to drink :) >From: "murray ward" <xx_xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> >Reply-To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> >To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >Subject: RE: [microsound] summer book lists? >Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 23:41:10 +0100 > >Hey > >Some really good bok recomendations, butn if anyone HAD! to chose what >would they rocomend, mine would have to be Don Delilo's White Noise, I >don't know why (I'm sure there are better books out there) but it seems to >effect/affect me every time > >Best >Murray > >_________________________________________________________________ >It's fast, it's easy and it's free. 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Mon Jun 28 22:43:10 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30879-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.112]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 28 Jun 2004 18:43:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 28 Jun 2004 18:43:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 75983 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 28 Jun 2004 22:43:25 +0000 Received: (qmail 75969 invoked from network); Mon, 28 Jun 2004 22:43:25 +0000 Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 23:41:10 +0100 From: murray ward <xx_xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: RE: [microsound] summer book lists? X-Originating-IP: [81.155.252.161] X-Sender: xx_xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Bcc: Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Originating-Email: [xx_xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Jun 2004 22:41:11.0825 (UTC) FILETIME=[0316C010:01C45D61] Hey Some really good bok recomendations, butn if anyone HAD! to chose what would they rocomend, mine would have to be Don Delilo's White Noise, I don't know why (I'm sure there are better books out there) but it seems to effect/affect me every time Best Murray _________________________________________________________________ It's fast, it's easy and it's free. 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Mon Jun 28 22:37:33 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30878-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 28 Jun 2004 18:37:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 28 Jun 2004 18:36:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 73053 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 28 Jun 2004 22:37:49 +0000 Received: (qmail 73042 invoked from network); Mon, 28 Jun 2004 22:37:48 +0000 Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 18:37:38 -0400 From: xxxxxxx@xxx.xxx Subject: RE: [microsound] summer book lists? To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (microsound) Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Atlas Mailer 2.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-AOL-IP: 212.30.6.150 X-AOL-Language: english X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Riddley Walker - Russel Hoban Sleep Has His House - Anna Kavan Collected Stories - Vladimir Nabokov Back In No Time - The Brion Gysin Reader Surrealism_Desire Unbound -- In my mind is the sound of rudderless ships.... --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Jun 28 22:30:27 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30877-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 28 Jun 2004 18:30:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 28 Jun 2004 18:28:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 68847 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 28 Jun 2004 22:30:43 +0000 Received: (qmail 68837 invoked from network); Mon, 28 Jun 2004 22:30:43 +0000 Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 23:30:39 +0100 From: murray ward <xx_xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: RE: [microsound] summer book lists? X-Originating-IP: [81.155.252.161] X-Sender: xx_xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Bcc: Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Originating-Email: [xx_xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Jun 2004 22:30:40.0680 (UTC) FILETIME=[8AE5AA80:01C45D5F] currently reading: Sync by Steven Strogatz Countdown to mathematics by Lynne Graham & David Sargent Previously: The Soft Machine by William S. Burroughs Fictions by Jorge luis Borges The Compuiter Music Tutorial by Curtis Roads Best Murray (dj_spleenbaby) _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself with cool new emoticons http://www.msn.co.uk/specials/myemo --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Jun 29 11:30:50 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30900-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.82]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 29 Jun 2004 07:30:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 07:29:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 80743 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 11:31:05 +0000 Received: (qmail 80732 invoked from network); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 11:31:05 +0000 Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 00:29:51 +0200 From: Kassen <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] synth toys To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <001c01c45d5f$70905540$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <BD062F92.203E9%xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > I'm looking for a small analog synth with a keyboard, lots of knobs and a > built-in speaker...battery and/or AC powered is ok...something like the > monophonic SH-101 but smaller...a kit is ok...something like the > Technosaurus Microcon II but with a keyboard would be perfect... > as I've not been following the synth hardware market for a long time I am > unaware of what strange little synth toys might be lurking about...anyone > recommend something? > thanks in advance! perhaps a yamaha cs-1? it uses sliders instead of knobs but that makes it very small and sturdy. can be batery powered, has a speaker, idealy suited for touring. best of all; it will do both noizes and synth lines. affordable too. in my experience it needs a compressor or a limiter when used live because tweaking the settings can cause huge volume changes but apart from that it sounds like exactly what you want. looks good next to a casio sk-1 too. link for your convenience; http://www.synthmuseum.com/yamaha/yamcs101.html confession time; apart from my own experimental work i´m also in a disco project called "bangkok impact" (*ducks*). we´ve taken to using a lot of small and toy keyboards on stage because you can throw a lot of them inbetween your clothes in your suitcase, they take up little room on stage, can be modified, don´t crash and they enable us to switch to completely freestyle jamming at any moment. some of them produce a frightning amount of bass too...... i wholeheartedly recomend the practice to everybody. Kas. p.s. sorry about mentioning disco on the microsound list, i feel dirty now. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Jun 28 22:22:18 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30876-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 28 Jun 2004 18:22:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 28 Jun 2004 18:19:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 65513 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 28 Jun 2004 22:22:33 +0000 Received: (qmail 65502 invoked from network); Mon, 28 Jun 2004 22:22:33 +0000 Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 18:19:38 -0400 From: andrew jones <xxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Re: summer book lists? In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.553) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > "Flaubert’s Parrot" by Julian Barnes > ahh Flaubert's Parrot. that's a good one. on another note, how do you take the cleverness of literary games to music? i mean you have to know a language to read it, but you don't have to know music to listen to it, hence a lot of the word play and tricks that mark great literature seem to be less translatable to music. - A --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Jun 28 21:54:37 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30874-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.81]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 28 Jun 2004 17:54:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 28 Jun 2004 17:54:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 55335 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 28 Jun 2004 21:54:52 +0000 Received: (qmail 55323 invoked from network); Mon, 28 Jun 2004 21:54:51 +0000 Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 14:54:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Josh Ronsen <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Re: summer book lists? In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx "AO Barnabooth: His Diary" by Valery Larbaud "Fractal Music" by Charles Madden "Flaubert’s Parrot" by Julian Barnes "The Philosopher’s Stone" by Colin Wilson "Pierre Boulez" by Dominiqu Jameux, trans by Susan Bradshaw The Madden book was particularly useless for any practical purposes. I have a review on my other computer if anyone is interested. Maybe I will just post it tomorrow. When I think of fractal music, I usually think of starting out with fractal melodies, i.e. notes. I have not considered starting out from smaller parts. -Josh Ronsen http://home.flash.net/~jronsen in Austin, Texas __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. So do we. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Jun 28 22:08:52 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30875-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.114]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 28 Jun 2004 18:08:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 28 Jun 2004 18:08:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 60179 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 28 Jun 2004 22:09:09 +0000 Received: (qmail 60168 invoked from network); Mon, 28 Jun 2004 22:09:08 +0000 Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 17:50:34 -0400 From: kerem <xxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: RE: [microsound] summer book lists? In-reply-to: <BD05EF89.9290%xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: xxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx Message-id: <BLEGIILGBIJNNJGODFMKAEEBDCAA.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-uakron_edu-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-uakron_edu-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-uakron_edu-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=0, required 7) X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx 1- Dhalgren - Samuel R. Delany 2- Ark - Howard Johnson 3- Illustrated Man - Ray Bradbury 4- On the Road - Jack Kerouac 5- The Infernal Desire Machines of Doctor Hoffman - Angela Carter 6- The Golem - Gustav Meyrink Kerem --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Jun 28 21:06:53 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30873-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 28 Jun 2004 17:06:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 28 Jun 2004 17:04:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 35894 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 28 Jun 2004 21:07:09 +0000 Received: (qmail 35884 invoked from network); Mon, 28 Jun 2004 21:07:08 +0000 Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 23:16:54 +0200 From: Johan Kuypers <xxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Nature To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <008e01c45d55$3cf06f90$xxxxxxxx@xxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2739.300 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_NPV8zeKuJ0TREri1KHVqbw)" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-AntiVirus: checked by Vexira MailArmor (version: 2.0.1.16; VAE: 6.26.0.3; VDF: 6.26.0.8; host: confetix.sdv.fr) X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_NPV8zeKuJ0TREri1KHVqbw) Content-Type: text/plain; Charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Artists who link nature with electronics/micro/art/performance, and interested to perform at a picnic on August 29, somewhere in Belgium, please revert back off-list. //Johan --Boundary_(ID_NPV8zeKuJ0TREri1KHVqbw)-- From ???@??? Mon Jun 28 20:57:41 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30872-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.112]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 28 Jun 2004 16:57:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 28 Jun 2004 16:57:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 31937 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 28 Jun 2004 20:57:56 +0000 Received: (qmail 31927 invoked from network); Mon, 28 Jun 2004 20:57:55 +0000 Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 16:57:45 -0400 From: Michael Greenwood <xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] summer book lists? To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.8 (Macintosh; U; PPC) Content-type: text/plain; x-mac-creator=4D4F5353; x-mac-type=54455854; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <BD05692F.20386%xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Anger-Bill Landis Sleazoid Express-Bill Landis The Encyclopaedia of Murder-Colin Wilson The Ghastly One-Jimmy McDonough Cronenberg on Cronenberg --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Jun 28 20:34:00 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30871-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.109]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 28 Jun 2004 16:34:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 28 Jun 2004 16:34:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 20775 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 28 Jun 2004 20:34:16 +0000 Received: (qmail 20758 invoked from network); Mon, 28 Jun 2004 20:34:14 +0000 Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 20:33:57 +0000 (UTC) From: Phil Thomson <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Performance/presentation opportunities? X-X-Sender: xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Hi all, I am looking for some opportunities to perform/present my work, particularly abroad (I live in Vancouver, Canada). I make beatless experimental digital audio, lately incorporating soundscape recordings in with purely digital sound. I'm doing my Master's in Fine Arts at Simon Fraser University in Vancouver, and I've performed at NWEAMO in Oregon, Vancouver for Vancouver New Music's Dangerous Currents Festival and Signal and Noise. You can hear samples of my work @a< www.sfu.ca/~pthomson/> If anyone here is a curator or knows of a good place to submit such work, please contact me *off-list*, unless you think the info would be useful to others on the list. Thanks in advance for any info. P ========= Phil Thomson home: http://www.sfu.ca/~pthomson label: http://centibel.org/ group: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/databenders/ ========= SDF Public Access UNIX System http://www.freeshell.org/ Geekier than you since 1987. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Jun 28 19:02:56 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30870-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.86]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 28 Jun 2004 15:02:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 28 Jun 2004 15:03:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 74912 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 28 Jun 2004 19:03:10 +0000 Received: (qmail 74901 invoked from network); Mon, 28 Jun 2004 19:03:09 +0000 Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 14:00:34 -0500 From: Juanjose <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx.xx> Subject: RE: [microsound] summer book lists? In-reply-to: <BD05692F.20386%xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: 'microsound' <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2739.300 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-imss-version: 2.5 X-imss-result: Passed X-imss-scores: Clean:97.29937 C:22 M:2 S:5 R:5 X-imss-settings: Baseline:3 C:2 M:2 S:2 R:2 (0.5000 1.0000) X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx - Prince of Puke - John Waters - Baby Cat Face - Barry Gifford - El Idiota Moral - Norbert Bilbeny - La nueva Carne - Antonio José Navarro - Cynismes Portrait du Philosophe en Chien - Michel Onfray JUANJOSERIVASZUÑIGA [Radical Technology] --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Jun 28 18:28:09 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30869-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 28 Jun 2004 14:28:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 28 Jun 2004 14:27:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 53520 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 28 Jun 2004 18:28:22 +0000 Received: (qmail 53508 invoked from network); Mon, 28 Jun 2004 18:28:21 +0000 Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 11:10:43 -0700 From: Kim Cascone <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] musical language To: microsound_list <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BD05AD33.203AE%xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.0.6 X-Loop-Detect: 1 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx http://www.nature.com/nsu/040614/040614-11.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Jun 28 17:40:10 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30868-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 28 Jun 2004 13:40:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 28 Jun 2004 13:39:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 28232 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 28 Jun 2004 17:40:22 +0000 Received: (qmail 28176 invoked from network); Mon, 28 Jun 2004 17:40:21 +0000 Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 13:37:26 -0400 From: andrew jones <xxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> Subject: Re: FW: [microsound] summer book lists? In-reply-to: <009f01c45d34$6e2d1f70$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.553) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx that Steve Erickson novel Days Between Stations Woody Allen - Getting Even (one of the better pieces of literature ever actually) Some Giorgio Agamben book I checked out from the library started reading and had to return before I could get even 100 pages in. You'd think they'd have a special rate for philosophy books, less than 2 weeks just doesn't work. The Delueze Guitari essay on Kafka which ironically I still have. - A On Monday, June 28, 2004, at 01:22 PM, Ryan Whitehead wrote: > Law in America - A Short History: Lawrence Friedman > Future of Ideas: Lawrence Lessig > Anatomy of Melancholy: Robert Burton > The Middle East: Bernard Lewis > Catalan Cuisine: Coleman Andrews > The Red Queen - Sex and the Evolution of Human Nature: Matt Ridley > > Ryan Whitehead > > -----Original Message----- > From: Kim Cascone [mailto:xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx] > Sent: Monday, June 28, 2004 8:21 AM > To: microsound_list > Subject: [microsound] summer book lists? > > hey, I'm asking once again for a 'last five or so books read' list from > microsounders...they don't have to be 'sound art' related and can be > anything at all...here's mine to start and thanks to Joshua for the > Markson > tip! > > - The Golden Ratio - Mario Livio > - Hey, Nostradamus - Douglas Coupland > - Wittgenstein's Mistress - David Markson > - Music of the Primes - Marcus du Sautoy > - Cosmopolis - Don Delillo > - Vernon Little God - DBC Pierre > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > > > _____ > > > k i m _ c a s c o n e > a n e c h o i c > xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx > current location: San Francisco > iPod: assorted medieval music > reading: 'The Golden Ratio' - Mario Livio > watching: -- > weather: sunny, foggy, cool > > US cell: +1 415 215 5975 > > EU mobile: +32 472 505 273 > > 'It was a complex mathematical shape, > turned into some kind of melody. > Waveforms. A slow, quiet pulse along the spectrum.' > - Jeff Noon - 'Falling Out of Cars' > Andrew Jones 912 Euclid Ave. Birmingham, AL, 35213 407-927-7607 aim: liminal18 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Jun 28 17:23:50 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30867-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.109]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 28 Jun 2004 13:23:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 28 Jun 2004 13:24:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 18624 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 28 Jun 2004 17:24:06 +0000 Received: (qmail 18613 invoked from network); Mon, 28 Jun 2004 17:24:05 +0000 Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 12:22:02 -0500 From: Ryan Whitehead <xxxx.xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: FW: [microsound] summer book lists? To: 'microsound' <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <009f01c45d34$6e2d1f70$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_dbP24ZW9Lm5O1IwxvoTWmw)" Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_dbP24ZW9Lm5O1IwxvoTWmw) Content-Type: text/plain; Charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Law in America - A Short History: Lawrence Friedman Future of Ideas: Lawrence Lessig Anatomy of Melancholy: Robert Burton The Middle East: Bernard Lewis Catalan Cuisine: Coleman Andrews The Red Queen - Sex and the Evolution of Human Nature: Matt Ridley Ryan Whitehead -----Original Message----- From: Kim Cascone [mailto:xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx] Sent: Monday, June 28, 2004 8:21 AM To: microsound_list Subject: [microsound] summer book lists? hey, I'm asking once again for a 'last five or so books read' list from microsounders...they don't have to be 'sound art' related and can be anything at all...here's mine to start and thanks to Joshua for the Markson tip! - The Golden Ratio - Mario Livio - Hey, Nostradamus - Douglas Coupland - Wittgenstein's Mistress - David Markson - Music of the Primes - Marcus du Sautoy - Cosmopolis - Don Delillo - Vernon Little God - DBC Pierre --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org _____ k i m _ c a s c o n e a n e c h o i c xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx current location: San Francisco iPod: assorted medieval music reading: 'The Golden Ratio' - Mario Livio watching: -- weather: sunny, foggy, cool US cell: +1 415 215 5975 EU mobile: +32 472 505 273 'It was a complex mathematical shape, turned into some kind of melody. Waveforms. A slow, quiet pulse along the spectrum.' - Jeff Noon - 'Falling Out of Cars' --Boundary_(ID_dbP24ZW9Lm5O1IwxvoTWmw)-- From ???@??? Mon Jun 28 17:15:34 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30866-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 28 Jun 2004 13:15:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 28 Jun 2004 13:13:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 14282 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 28 Jun 2004 17:15:50 +0000 Received: (qmail 14272 invoked from network); Mon, 28 Jun 2004 17:15:49 +0000 Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 10:15:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Gregory Elliott <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] summer book lists? X-Originating-IP: [67.65.9.101] To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.41 (Entity 5.404) Content-type: text/plain Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Eon-Sig: AQF85gpA4FI8AAwNMgEAAAAB,ce240c17788d74fd1d68e9537c4c8d65 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx - "Philosophy and Freedom: Derrida, Rorty, Habermas, Foucault" by John McCumber - "The Conscious Universe: Part and Whole in Modern Physical Theory" by Menas Kafatos and Robert Nadeau - "Wen Tzu: Understanding The Mysteries" attributed to Lao Tzu, translated by Thomas Cleary - "Book of Lies: The Disinformation Guide to Magick and The Occult" edited by Richard Metzger - "Techgnosis: Myth, Magic, + Mysticism in the age of information" by Erik Davis http://www.soundclick.com/spagirus --- "Burton Thomas" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> wrote: ----- Original Message ----- From: Kim Cascone <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 06:20:31 -0700 To: microsound_list <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] summer book lists? > hey, I'm asking once again for a 'last five or so books read' list from > microsounders...they don't have to be 'sound art' related and can be > anything at all...here's mine to start and thanks to Joshua for the Markson > tip! > Here are mine: The Paris Review #75, Spring 1979 "Construction" John Rajchman "The Deleuze Connections" John Rajchman "Buddhism Without Beliefs" Stephen Batchelor "City of God" E.L. 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Mon Jun 28 16:05:23 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30865-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 28 Jun 2004 12:05:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 28 Jun 2004 12:04:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 84035 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 28 Jun 2004 16:05:38 +0000 Received: (qmail 84024 invoked from network); Mon, 28 Jun 2004 16:05:37 +0000 Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 11:05:34 -0500 From: Burton Thomas <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] summer book lists? X-Originating-IP: 139.127.146.36 To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxx@xxx-x.xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.41 (Entity 5.404) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-OB-Received: from unknown (205.158.62.182) by wfilter.us4.outblaze.com; 28 Jun 2004 16:04:18 -0000 X-Originating-Server: ws3-6.us4.outblaze.com X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx ----- Original Message ----- From: Kim Cascone <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 06:20:31 -0700 To: microsound_list <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] summer book lists? > hey, I'm asking once again for a 'last five or so books read' list from > microsounders...they don't have to be 'sound art' related and can be > anything at all...here's mine to start and thanks to Joshua for the Markson > tip! > Here are mine: The Paris Review #75, Spring 1979 "Construction" John Rajchman "The Deleuze Connections" John Rajchman "Buddhism Without Beliefs" Stephen Batchelor "City of God" E.L. 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Mon Jun 28 14:24:12 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30864-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 28 Jun 2004 10:24:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 28 Jun 2004 10:22:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 55523 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 28 Jun 2004 14:24:28 +0000 Received: (qmail 55513 invoked from network); Mon, 28 Jun 2004 14:24:26 +0000 Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 14:24:10 +0000 (UTC) From: Phil Thomson <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] summer book lists? In-reply-to: <BD05EF89.9290%xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx> X-X-Sender: xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Boundary_(ID_fZcpjwoOR6oeX20zRk26GA)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <BD05EF89.9290%xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_fZcpjwoOR6oeX20zRk26GA) Content-Type: text/plain; Charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Jeremy Cramption - The Political Mapping of Cyberspace Charlie Gere - Digital Culture Manuel De Landa - War in the Age of Intelligent Machines Geert Lovink, ed. - Uncanny Networks: Conversations with the Virtual Intelligentsia Gary Shapiro - Alcyone ( a book on Nietsche, the gift, noise and women ) On Mon, 28 Jun 2004, Marco Messina wrote: > Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 15:53:45 +0200 > From: Marco Messina <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx> > Reply-To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> > To: "microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> > Subject: Re: [microsound] summer book lists? > > that' s mine... > > -Condominium- J. G. Ballard > -Power Politics- Arundhati Roy > -Primitive Rebels: Studies in Archaic Forms of Social Movement- E. Hobsbawm > -Tomorrow Now- B. Sterling > -The air-conditioned nigthmare- Henry Miller > -Trilogy- Agota Kristof > > > marco messina > [] [] [] [] [] [] > http://www.mousikelab.com/ > http://www.novenove.it/ > http://www.folderstudio.com/ > [] [] [] [] [] [] > > > > > >> hey, I'm asking once again for a 'last five or so books read' list from >> microsounders...they don't have to be 'sound art' related and can be >> anything at all...here's mine to start and thanks to Joshua for the Markson >> tip! >> >> - The Golden Ratio - Mario Livio >> - Hey, Nostradamus - Douglas Coupland >> - Wittgenstein's Mistress - David Markson >> - Music of the Primes - Marcus du Sautoy >> - Cosmopolis - Don Delillo >> - Vernon Little God - DBC Pierre >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> website: http://www.microsound.org >> > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > > ========= Phil Thomson home: http://www.sfu.ca/~pthomson label: http://centibel.org/ group: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/databenders/ ========= SDF Public Access UNIX System http://www.freeshell.org/ Geekier than you since 1987. --Boundary_(ID_fZcpjwoOR6oeX20zRk26GA) Content-Type: text/plain; Charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org --Boundary_(ID_fZcpjwoOR6oeX20zRk26GA)-- From ???@??? Mon Jun 28 13:44:28 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30863-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 28 Jun 2004 09:44:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 28 Jun 2004 09:42:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 46378 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 28 Jun 2004 13:44:44 +0000 Received: (qmail 46367 invoked from network); Mon, 28 Jun 2004 13:44:43 +0000 Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 15:53:45 +0200 From: Marco Messina <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] summer book lists? In-reply-to: <BD05692F.20386%xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: "microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BD05EF89.9290%xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.1.2418 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx that' s mine... -Condominium- J. G. Ballard -Power Politics- Arundhati Roy -Primitive Rebels: Studies in Archaic Forms of Social Movement- E. Hobsbawm -Tomorrow Now- B. Sterling -The air-conditioned nigthmare- Henry Miller -Trilogy- Agota Kristof marco messina [] [] [] [] [] [] http://www.mousikelab.com/ http://www.novenove.it/ http://www.folderstudio.com/ [] [] [] [] [] [] > hey, I'm asking once again for a 'last five or so books read' list from > microsounders...they don't have to be 'sound art' related and can be > anything at all...here's mine to start and thanks to Joshua for the Markson > tip! > > - The Golden Ratio - Mario Livio > - Hey, Nostradamus - Douglas Coupland > - Wittgenstein's Mistress - David Markson > - Music of the Primes - Marcus du Sautoy > - Cosmopolis - Don Delillo > - Vernon Little God - DBC Pierre > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Jun 28 13:33:45 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30862-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.86]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 28 Jun 2004 09:33:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 28 Jun 2004 09:33:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 43112 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 28 Jun 2004 13:34:01 +0000 Received: (qmail 43100 invoked from network); Mon, 28 Jun 2004 13:34:01 +0000 Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 14:33:20 +0100 From: xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx Subject: Re: [microsound] summer book lists? In-reply-to: <BD05692F.20386%xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.553) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx can't resist stuff like this. no music books really. funny that. "The Hilbert Challenge" - Jeremy J Gray (OUP, 2000) "The Structure of Evolutionary Theory" - Stephen J. Gould (Harvard, 2002) "Longitude" - Dava Sobel (Harper, 1998) "Non-Places: The Anthroplogy of Supermodernity" - Marc Auge (Verso, 1997) "Media Manifestos" - Regis Debray (Verso, 1996) David (Brighton, UK) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Jun 28 13:20:17 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30861-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.86]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 28 Jun 2004 09:20:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 28 Jun 2004 09:20:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 39867 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 28 Jun 2004 13:20:33 +0000 Received: (qmail 39856 invoked from network); Mon, 28 Jun 2004 13:20:33 +0000 Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 06:20:31 -0700 From: Kim Cascone <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] summer book lists? To: microsound_list <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BD05692F.20386%xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.0.6 X-Loop-Detect: 1 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx hey, I'm asking once again for a 'last five or so books read' list from microsounders...they don't have to be 'sound art' related and can be anything at all...here's mine to start and thanks to Joshua for the Markson tip! - The Golden Ratio - Mario Livio - Hey, Nostradamus - Douglas Coupland - Wittgenstein's Mistress - David Markson - Music of the Primes - Marcus du Sautoy - Cosmopolis - Don Delillo - Vernon Little God - DBC Pierre --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? 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Projects is now online! For your viewing and listening pleasure. We're happy! Go and click on that PROJECTS link, now! Zèppelin Festival de Arte Sonoro, CCCB Barrera de Concreto was presented as part of this sound art festival in Barcelona, Spain. Images of the festival available @ NEWS Yituey interview, Loop.cl, Chile Our latest release: CORNUCOPIA "diámetros" CD [plelo002] Come visit! And don't forget to say hi to our punk rocker on our main page! Greets to you all, Paralelo 18 http://www.paralelo18.org _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? 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Mon Jun 28 09:46:40 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30858-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.113]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 28 Jun 2004 05:46:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 28 Jun 2004 05:46:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 98189 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 28 Jun 2004 09:46:59 +0000 Received: (qmail 98179 invoked from network); Mon, 28 Jun 2004 09:46:59 +0000 Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 05:46:53 -0400 (EDT) From: monotonaut <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] gig search: BROKEN SLEEP europe august-october To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx BROKEN SLEEP dark ambient/noise glitchcomassault looking for european gigs mid/late-august to mid-october...this will be a laptop-based tour (perhaps w. some external/kinetic input) unlike my effects pedal-based sets that i played in paris, strasbourg, and leipzig last year (as "clone") ("clone" and "monotonaut") mp3 links: http://freewebs.com/brokensleep ...including a couple phillip glass remixes: http://freewebs.com/brokensleep/brokensleep-sulch-01.mp3 http://freewebs.com/brokensleep/brokensleep-fd-03.mp3 contact: monotonaut at yahoo dot ca ===== http://freewebs.com/brokensleep ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Jun 28 09:17:47 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30857-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 28 Jun 2004 05:17:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 28 Jun 2004 05:16:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 60285 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 28 Jun 2004 09:18:08 +0000 Received: (qmail 60275 invoked from network); Mon, 28 Jun 2004 09:18:08 +0000 Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 02:17:56 -0700 From: "j.frede" <xxxxxx@xxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] LA sound event - steve roden, j.frede, samon takahashi, bob bellerue and more To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <04ef01c45cf0$cd299f60$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_cEJz68xINDZFZPcFA6oTJw)" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_cEJz68xINDZFZPcFA6oTJw) Content-Type: text/plain; Charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit (pick of the week for the LA WEEkly) 18th Street Art CENTER HOSTS : freeears A micro festival of today's sounds (curated by Samon Takahashi) Monday, 28th of June, 2004 Concerts at HIGHWAYS PERFORMANCE SPACE http://www.highwaysperformance.org/ 1651 18th Street ( north of Olympic bldv ) Santa Monica, CA 90404 Reservation : 310 315 1459 GEORG NUSSBAUMER [at], BOB BELLERUE [us], PETER KOLOVOS [us] / SAMON TAKAHASHI [fr], JOHN WIESE [us] >From 8.30 pm ticket : 10$ + Sound installations and video at 18th STREET 1629 BLDG 1629 18th Street ( north of Olympic blvd ) Santa Monica, CA 90404 J.FREDE [us], JEFF CAIN [us], STEVE RODEN [us], MIRIAM BAJTALA [at], ERIK VESTVILLE [us] >From 7.00 pm ticket : free Freeears would like to thank the 18th Street Art Center, the Association Française d'Action Artistique (AFAA), the French Consulate in Los Angeles, and the Institut für Kulturförderung des Landes Oberösterreich --Boundary_(ID_cEJz68xINDZFZPcFA6oTJw)-- From ???@??? Mon Jun 28 09:16:30 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30856-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.109]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 28 Jun 2004 05:16:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 28 Jun 2004 05:16:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 59315 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 28 Jun 2004 09:16:50 +0000 Received: (qmail 59305 invoked from network); Mon, 28 Jun 2004 09:16:49 +0000 Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 02:16:35 -0700 From: "j.frede" <xxxxxx@xxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] j.frede/scanner CD out now! To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <04dc01c45cf0$9cc0bd40$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_ZQ+rLIgg90zlnh2XRB0cZw)" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_ZQ+rLIgg90zlnh2XRB0cZw) Content-Type: text/plain; Charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit on sale now! Artists: j.frede / Scanner Title: "j.frede rewrites scanner's diary" CD Label: current recordings Catalog number: current.002 www.current-recordings.com In 2000 UK based artist Scanner released a cd titled DIARY on Sulpher Records to accompany a tour he was doing directly related to his diaries. Robin Rimbaud (aka.scanner) has keep a diary since 1976, never missing a single day regardless of his location in the world or the hour of day he was able to do so. The tour in 2000 he incorporated some of these very personal entries into public performances. The Diary CD was a collection of live recordings. In 2001 Robin gave me a copy of the Diary cd while i was visiting him in London, and explained the tour and intention of the tour. I was very intrigued by the personal aspect of him sharing passages from his diaries, electronic music is one of the more impersonal forms of music, often seen as cold due to the synthetic sounds and processes used in creating it. In 2003, Robin and myself were discussing working together, and i suggested this project, and since we both share a sense of humor the titled seemed fitting and funny. j.frede began taking apart his live recordings from the CD, taking care to not mix the sources from track to track, out of my own neurotic conceptual nature, and create new tracks or in this instance "pages" from the recordings. The finished piece is a full length album that explores the textures and sounds created by Scanner, arranged in new compositions. all of the sounds and samples on the rewrite cd are taken from the original CD. the packaging is silk-screened digipaks, with full color inserts. limited to 500 copies CD liner notes: May 28 2004 22.48 A diary is a means of recording our history, moments that are lost each and every day, our passions and ideas, our frustrations and inspirations, people we've seen, places we've visited. I have kept a diary since I was twelve years old, never missing a day since 1976. No matter where I am nor at what hour, I still record each day with a fine black fountain pen. In 2000 I released a series of live recordings, 'Diary,' on CD (Sulphur Records) to accompany a UK tour where I incorporated some of these very personal entries into public performances. Much of my work experiments with diverse media in order to search out, find, reveal, process, distort and re-present elements of our environment, to make the ordinary extraordinary. July 23 2004 21:50 I dreamt that the artist J.Frede had rewritten my diary in sound. He had created a delightfully impressive re-interpretation of the original Diary CD, transforming and expanding the music into a sonic reflection of cloudy elegance. When I woke up I wished it were true. Robin Rimbaud Related weblinks: www.current-recordings.com www.jfrede.com www.scannerdot.com Publicist: Lynn Hasty, Green Galactic xxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx www.greengalactic.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- bio.scanner Battersea-based ambient composer Robin Rimbaud, aka Scanner, takes his curious pseudonym from his compositional tool of choice; the cellphone scanner. Although only recording and releasing music since the early '90s, Rimbaud has already earned a reputation as a boundary pushing experimentalist, wedding scanned vocal samples with sparse electronics and other textural elements that underscore the degree of strain and isolation often associated with modern telecommunications technology. Though working increasingly toward other, more musical compositional devices, his first several releases went heavy on the lifted convo, attracting as often the comment of postgrad pocket theorists interested in the critical implications of Rimbaud's work as the music critics. Although admitting to a certain voyeuristic fixation even in his childhood, Rimbaud's began exploring it through music only recently, acquiring a police scanner from the Brixton Hunt and Saboteurs group (a sort of wargames/survivalist collective) at a surprising discount. He's since recorded a number of albums and completed remixes for Oval, Scorn, and others. Thought not as varied or complex in his approach as some of his peers in the European electronic music avant-garde, Rimbaud's probing experimentalism and developing focus has won him high praise among the more cerebral of the emusic set, resulting in a number of commissioned performance and composition opportunities that have brought him in contact with the likes of David Shea, Bill Laswell, Oval's Markus Popp, and Karlheinz Stockhausen (the latter of which Rimbaud counts among his admirers). He also worked on the score for the film The Garden Is Full of Metal, about late film director Derek Jarman. In 2001 Scanner returned with the album Wave of Light by Wave of Light, using the name Scannerfunk.~ Sean Cooper, All Music Guide -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- j.frede | biographical information (b.1975) Originating from New Mexico, j.frede works as a composer, sound designer and installation artist. Frede has been residing in Los Angeles since 2002, previously living and working out of Colorado from 1996-2001. Traveling abroad consistently since 1998, his work has been presented throughout Europe as well as here in the United States. In 2003 "Blip: the glitch electronica standard reference" loops for acid CDROM was released by Sonic Foundry / SONY. Blip contains over 700 copyright free sounds for composers to use in their music and is part of the extensive "loops for acid" series. Frede created this library along with C. Archuleta and is scheduled to release a second volume in 2004. When performing live, j.frede utilizes a variety of PC based software to write compositions in real time using found sounds and digital manipulations. His installation work is designed to create subtle listening environments in galleries and performance spaces. Each installation follows a conceptual basis and is presented with documentation of the project. The Curatorial work of j.frede includes several events at The Boulder Museum of Contemporary Art as well as The Museum of Contemporary Art Denver. Frede also founded the Denver Atonal Festival that ran for 5 consecutive years and presented over 50 artists. He also owned and operated the Chernobyl Tone Gallery in Denver, Colorado from 1999-2000 showcasing countless touring acts from the United States, Europe and Japan. Chernobyl was dedicated to sound art and a direct relation between visual art and music. A number of infamous performance art pieces were presented during its existence including the "bomb" performance and "vegetarianism" which was reminiscent of the 1960's actionist movement. In 2000 he curated the audio portion of the Telluride International Experimental Cinema Exposition, which provided a continuous flow of sound and music throughout the festival. The most recent event Frede co-produced, along side Green Galactic & ACF/LA, was the west coast launch party for e|i magazine. It featured live performances by Steve Roden, Akira Rabelias, Kit Clayton, Sue Costabile as well as Frede himself. j.frede | artistic overview As a composer, j.frede collects sonic atmospheres of both organic and manmade origin that are natural occurring in regards to the sound's source. Seeking out sounds that could be mistaken for synthetic or electronically created, frede arranges them into composition form and presents the work in both live performances and in the form of sound installations. In the past, frede has created computer or synthesizer based works but primarily works with field recordings. Live, j.frede utilizes a variety of software to create sound banks with real-time control to create soundscapes that range from quiet and minimal to dense surround sound performances. Frede also works with acoustics from both instruments and objects to create subtle compositions. One example would be the "Quiet series" performance in which an Indian banjo was used in a non-traditional manner to create near silent sounds using the keys of the instrument and the resonating strings. The sound was slowly brought into the laptop and mixed subtlety into the sound system. Another other example is the "glass music" performance j.frede presented at the Museum of Contemporary Art Denver. Using various sizes and shapes of water filled wine glasses j.frede and Marleah Tobin performed a drone based work using the resonating sounds of the glasses to create a think sonic environment. The duo was followed by a surround sound piece created by 6 performers and 27 wine glasses. The installation work of j.frede is designed to create subtle listening environments in galleries and performance spaces. Each installation follows a conceptual basis and is achieved using multiple cd players, multiple small speakers, and compositions specific to the installation. The most recent installation, Selected Phonographies, was featured at the Soundvision Gallery in Portland Oregon in May 2003. The installation consisted of 24,1 inch speakers divided into 3 stereo channels. The speakers where hanging from the ceiling of the gallery space at various lengths. The sound for the installation consisted of binaural field recordings from the United States and Europe and was arranged to enhance the binaural properties and to create new spatial properties for the visitors to experience. This piece was sold and is now installed in a private residence in Corvallis, Oregon. Some of the pending projects include a documentation of the American west titled American Gothic. Working with photographer Marleah Tobin, American Gothic will explore the ruins of rural America, taking photographs and recordings of rather insignificant abandoned structures to showcase the beauty of these long since forgotten locations. The other major project that Frede is currently perusing is a process of turning architecture into musical scores or notation. Using a combination of the visual lines and corners and the topographical data of the building itself, Frede will create notation using the vertical, horizontal and depth data. There are plans to present a finished work of this technique by the end of 2004. --Boundary_(ID_ZQ+rLIgg90zlnh2XRB0cZw)-- From ???@??? Mon Jun 28 01:04:56 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30855-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 27 Jun 2004 21:04:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 27 Jun 2004 21:03:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 69119 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 28 Jun 2004 01:05:14 +0000 Received: (qmail 69109 invoked from network); Mon, 28 Jun 2004 01:05:14 +0000 Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2004 18:05:50 -0700 From: Joshua Maremont <xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] [ot] data recovery In-reply-to: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> X-Sender: xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx@mail.boxmanstudies.com To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <f05111b05bd051dbdcef4@[63.198.190.202]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx At 9:07 PM -0700 6/25/04, lim wrote: >before i go digging around on my own i just wanted to ask if anyone knows of >or could recommend (off-list) any reliable data recovery companies in the >us...my laptop.s hard-drive failed yesterday, and i was unable to recover >any of my work before i think it went entirely...right now i.m just really >afraid of losing three months of work since my last full backup. 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Mon Jun 28 00:37:49 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30854-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.109]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 27 Jun 2004 20:37:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 27 Jun 2004 20:38:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 64055 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 28 Jun 2004 00:38:06 +0000 Received: (qmail 64044 invoked from network); Mon, 28 Jun 2004 00:38:06 +0000 Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 01:37:48 +0100 From: ".diogoval=?ISO-8859-1?B?6Q==?=rio" <x@xxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] [ot] data recovery In-reply-to: <000501c45b75$b44182f0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BD0526EC.852%x@xxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_kqPE3aGdcZPPcm67jtZC7A)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.0.0.1309 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Jun 2004 00:38:01.0080 (UTC) FILETIME=[2A846F80:01C45CA8] --Boundary_(ID_kqPE3aGdcZPPcm67jtZC7A) Content-Type: text/plain; Charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit ____ ______________________________________________________ [!] About a month ago while using file vault on OS X (10.3.3), witch I hardly suggest not to use, after a system crash I¹ve lost all data on my computer !?. After a restart I only had access to ³user.sparceimage² file with 30 Gb (all data in this user). Once that the file vault encrypts the ³user² folder, including all pref.s and application support folder, etc. The only way to recover the encrypted data was using DataRescueX . In this case worked perfectly...and You can always try the demo for free in order to know if it solves your problem or not... Cheers. ..d ______________________________________________________ On 6/26/04 13:04, "Joakim Lindén" <xxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> wrote: > Have you tried the software recovery solutions? > > "Easy Recovery" is one and there is another one which I can't remember right > now, but I used it to get back approx. 100Gb of files from a formatted and > partly overwritten drive... > > To ask a company to extract the data physically would probably be VERY VERY > expensive and time consuming. > > > I must say good luck anyway, hope it works out. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "lim" <xxx_xxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> > To: <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> > Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2004 6:07 AM > Subject: [microsound] [ot] data recovery > > >> > before i go digging around on my own i just wanted to ask if anyone knows > of >> > or could recommend (off-list) any reliable data recovery companies in the >> > us...my laptop.s hard-drive failed yesterday, and i was unable to recover >> > any of my work before i think it went entirely...right now i.m just really >> > afraid of losing three months of work since my last full backup. >> > >> > thanks a bunch for your time, >> > lim;. >> > >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> > website: http://www.microsound.org >> > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > --Boundary_(ID_kqPE3aGdcZPPcm67jtZC7A)-- From ???@??? Sun Jun 27 17:52:22 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30853-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 27 Jun 2004 13:52:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 27 Jun 2004 13:51:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 72373 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 27 Jun 2004 17:52:38 +0000 Received: (qmail 72363 invoked from network); Sun, 27 Jun 2004 17:52:38 +0000 Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2004 17:52:14 +0000 From: "Sin: Ned" <xxx_xxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: RE: [microsound] microsound in Hong Kong? X-Originating-IP: [203.218.185.246] X-Sender: xxx_xxx@xxxxxxx.xxx To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Bcc: Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Originating-Email: [xxx_xxx@xxxxxxx.xxx] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Jun 2004 17:52:15.0243 (UTC) FILETIME=[7B4485B0:01C45C6F] >Hello, I'll be going to Hong Kong this summer and I'm wondering if >anyone has any recommendation on where to have a microsound or >experimental music experience while I'm there. Any record shops or >venues that would be good to check out? Any other off the beaten path >recommendation would be appreciated as well. Monitor Records is the best alternative record shop in HK, with the largest collection of CD ranging from HK independent music, Dark Wave, Electronica, Avant-Garde, Experimental, Post-Rock, Japanese Psych-Rock...etc. Unit 5, G/F, Block A, Fortune Terrace, 4-16 Tak Shing Street, Jordan, Kowloon Tel: 2782 3562 There are no specific venues in HK dedicated for microsound/experimental music performance. When exactly are you coming? I can check and let you know if anything interesting is going to happen during your time of visit. Below are some links you might want to take a look: http://www.zuni.org.hk/ http://www.hkfringe.com.hk/ http://www.para-site.org.hk/ http://www.oneaspace.org.hk/ deN:niS http://www.maitreyana.com _________________________________________________________________ Get 10Mb extra storage for MSN Hotmail. 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Sun Jun 27 16:41:43 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30852-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 27 Jun 2004 12:41:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 27 Jun 2004 12:40:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 58015 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 27 Jun 2004 16:41:59 +0000 Received: (qmail 58005 invoked from network); Sun, 27 Jun 2004 16:41:58 +0000 Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2004 12:41:56 -0400 From: Yatra Galaxy <xxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Chicago/August? To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <005e01c45c65$a89732b0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_8i26aqKDvzz2cO8/ugzAvQ)" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_8i26aqKDvzz2cO8/ugzAvQ) Content-Type: text/plain; Charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit great Japanese Psych bands at the Empty Bottle Aug 5 I am making the trip for that ----- Original Message ----- From: jake elliott To: microsound ; xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2004 3:16 AM Subject: Re: [microsound] Chicago/August? fuck, sorry; that was just supposed to go to albert. --- jake elliott <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> wrote: > hey, al; > > how are you? what are you doing in chicago in > august? > if you need a place to stay, i'm happy to offer. > > we should definitely meet up while you're here. > what > are the dates of your visit? > > let me know your dates and i'll get in touch with my > friends who host performances around here. > > best; > jake; > > --- Al C <xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > Does anyone know of any happenings in Chicago for > > the month of August? Also, > > If anyone can recommend any record stores or > > galleries that would be nice > > too. And, I'm always available for any > > performances;-) > > > > best, > > omnid > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > For additional commands, e-mail: > > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > website: http://www.microsound.org > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail is new and improved - Check it out! > http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Take Yahoo! Mail with you! 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Sun Jun 27 08:42:36 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30851-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.81]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 27 Jun 2004 04:42:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 27 Jun 2004 04:42:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 77649 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 27 Jun 2004 08:42:56 +0000 Received: (qmail 77639 invoked from network); Sun, 27 Jun 2004 08:42:55 +0000 Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2004 10:59:03 +0000 From: xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx Subject: Re: [microsound] microsound refrigerators? In-reply-to: <BD02FB24.2024A%xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: Kim Cascone <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>, microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.12a) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Priority: normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Provags-ID: kundenserver.de xxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xx auth:71925b1d09fec6f868aea9cb75dd0fbe X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx wow. maybe - if water is short - we could wash our cloths with sound... On 26 Jun 2004 at 10:06, Kim Cascone wrote: > http://www.popsci.com/popsci/science/article/0,12543,642991,00.html > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Jun 27 07:16:44 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30850-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 27 Jun 2004 03:16:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 27 Jun 2004 03:15:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 62511 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 27 Jun 2004 07:17:04 +0000 Received: (qmail 62498 invoked from network); Sun, 27 Jun 2004 07:17:04 +0000 Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2004 00:16:58 -0700 (PDT) From: jake elliott <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Chicago/August? In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>, xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx fuck, sorry; that was just supposed to go to albert. --- jake elliott <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> wrote: > hey, al; > > how are you? what are you doing in chicago in > august? > if you need a place to stay, i'm happy to offer. > > we should definitely meet up while you're here. > what > are the dates of your visit? > > let me know your dates and i'll get in touch with my > friends who host performances around here. > > best; > jake; > > --- Al C <xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > Does anyone know of any happenings in Chicago for > > the month of August? Also, > > If anyone can recommend any record stores or > > galleries that would be nice > > too. And, I'm always available for any > > performances;-) > > > > best, > > omnid > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > For additional commands, e-mail: > > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > website: http://www.microsound.org > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail is new and improved - Check it out! > http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Get it on your mobile phone. http://mobile.yahoo.com/maildemo --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Jun 27 07:15:17 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30849-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 27 Jun 2004 03:15:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 27 Jun 2004 03:12:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 61553 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 27 Jun 2004 07:15:36 +0000 Received: (qmail 61542 invoked from network); Sun, 27 Jun 2004 07:15:36 +0000 Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2004 00:15:30 -0700 (PDT) From: jake elliott <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Chicago/August? In-reply-to: <BD039BD6.651B%xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx hey, al; how are you? what are you doing in chicago in august? if you need a place to stay, i'm happy to offer. we should definitely meet up while you're here. what are the dates of your visit? let me know your dates and i'll get in touch with my friends who host performances around here. best; jake; --- Al C <xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote: > Hi all, > > Does anyone know of any happenings in Chicago for > the month of August? Also, > If anyone can recommend any record stores or > galleries that would be nice > too. And, I'm always available for any > performances;-) > > best, > omnid > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail is new and improved - Check it out! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Jun 27 05:12:14 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30848-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 27 Jun 2004 01:12:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 27 Jun 2004 01:11:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 41359 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 27 Jun 2004 05:12:32 +0000 Received: (qmail 41349 invoked from network); Sun, 27 Jun 2004 05:12:32 +0000 Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2004 22:12:27 -0700 From: "Rudolph A. Carrera" <xxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] microsound refrigerators? In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx.xx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: xxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> Organization: Carrera-Linn Cultural Exchange MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7 (Windows/20040616) X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx.xx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Simon Hampson wrote: >Wow - that's a nice concept but it got me wondering.. what if the seals >failed?? I mean the amount of noise that would escape.. certainly wouldn't >be microsound anymore :) > >Simon. > >Symbiosis - Experimental Sound Textures and Rhythms >Sunday nights, 12am - 2am >102.7 FM / www.rrr.org.au >Melbourne, Australia > >xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx.xx > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Kim Cascone [mailto:xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx] >Sent: Sunday, 27 June 2004 3:06 AM >To: microsound_list >Subject: [microsound] microsound refrigerators? > > >http://www.popsci.com/popsci/science/article/0,12543,642991,00.html > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >website: http://www.microsound.org > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >website: http://www.microsound.org > > > > Perhaps we should then release the first mega macrosound record, then ; ) ? 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Sun Jun 27 01:28:43 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30847-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 26 Jun 2004 21:28:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 26 Jun 2004 21:27:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 3539 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 27 Jun 2004 01:29:00 +0000 Received: (qmail 3529 invoked from network); Sun, 27 Jun 2004 01:29:00 +0000 Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2004 20:28:38 -0500 From: xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Subject: [microsound] [test] please ignore To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx sure hope this is the last... --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2004 11:24:55 -0400 From: Kurt Ralske <xxxxxxxx@xxxx-xxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Mac vs PC (linux information)[pd readymades] To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BCF5DE87.210A3%xxxxxxxx@xxxx-xxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT > People like Frank Barknecht and myself [from time to time] are busy > building end-user "applications" in PD as educatinal tools, but I really > prefer building things from low-level objects rather than cobbling > together all the ready-made "blackboxes" in Max/MSP. It was a reason I > disliked Reaktor so much: when I wanted to use a granulator, they had > one or two "granulator objects" which you could send parameters to, but > no way of getting inside the object to chnage its basic function. So I > build my own in PD, and know exactly how they work and what I can change > on the most basic levels. This way, I feel that the sound I make is my > own creation, and not that I'm just twiddling someone else's buttons. I agree, and work in the same way, by programming my own tools. But I do think the opposite view is totally valid: tools that have a lot of funtionality out-of-the-box and a good interface, make it easier and faster to finish art. I understand the need for personalized tools. Like many people, I feel that my ideas are not possible with off-the-shelf tools. But I also sort-of resent the time + effort required to make these tools, and sometimes feel the time + effort would be better spent on art-making. I don't mind the left-brain effort of building a tool if it's transparent enough for me to enjoy it thoroughly in right-brain mode. It should be totally intuitive at playtime. In the words of one of America's greatest poets: "I wanna get up + do my thing, I wanna get into it, man, you know...like a, like a sex machine, man...movin', doin' it, you know. Can I count it off? One two three four" Kurt From Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2004 18:29:22 +0200 From: Malte Steiner <xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Mac vs PC (linux information)[pd readymades] To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Kurt Ralske wrote: > > I agree, and work in the same way, by programming my own tools. But I do > think the opposite view is totally valid: tools that have a lot of > funtionality out-of-the-box and a good interface, make it easier and faster > to finish art. > > I understand the need for personalized tools. Like many people, I feel that > my ideas are not possible with off-the-shelf tools. But I also sort-of > resent the time + effort required to make these tools, and sometimes feel > the time + effort would be better spent on art-making. Having that in mind and mentioning Kyma as Tjeerd did is a bit odd for me, maybe there is a wrong idea of it flying around... Kyma can be regarded as a PD or Max/MSP in Hardware. All have a lot examples but you have to create a lot on you own too, that is the feature of the 3 systems. And can meanwhile Kyma be patched in realtime while running like PD and Max or does it still need to be compiled first and then listen/tweaked??? Cheers, Malte -- Malte Steiner media art + development -www.block4.com- next event/ lecture: pure-data workshop 24.-25. july BEK, Bergen, Norway new releases: elektronengehirn softwareart on cdr magazine tinah#2: http://www.thisisnotahomepage.com From Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2004 16:20:29 +0000 (UTC) From: Phil Thomson <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Mac vs PC (linux information) To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT > e.g. I don't know any > linux-tool with which you can morph spectra. This of course could also > very well mean that I'm not that good in browsing the internet. Once, when browsing the internet, I found this: http://www.cerlsoundgroup.org/Loris/ P ========= Phil Thomson home: http://www.sfu.ca/~pthomson label: http://centibel.org/ group: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/databenders/ ========= SDF Public Access UNIX System http://www.freeshell.org/ Geekier than you since 1987. From Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2004 02:19:53 +0000 (UTC) From: Phil Thomson <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Mac vs PC (linux information) To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT >> what I meant was that basic functions are well supported, but many >> advanced functions are absent in programs. e.g. I don't know any >> linux-tool with which you can morph spectra. This of course could also >> very well mean that I'm not that good in browsing the internet. > > - Csound > > does this for me since ages on virtually all platforms How? Do you have some orc's and/or sco's you could post? > - Pure-Data Ditto. P ========= Phil Thomson home: http://www.sfu.ca/~pthomson label: http://centibel.org/ group: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/databenders/ ========= SDF Public Access UNIX System http://www.freeshell.org/ Geekier than you since 1987. From Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2004 11:49:52 +0200 From: Malte Steiner <xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Mac vs PC (linux information) To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Phil Thomson wrote: >>> what I meant was that basic functions are well supported, but many >>> advanced functions are absent in programs. e.g. I don't know any >>> linux-tool with which you can morph spectra. This of course could also >>> very well mean that I'm not that good in browsing the internet. >> >> >> - Csound >> >> does this for me since ages on virtually all platforms > > > How? Do you have some orc's and/or sco's you could post? There are lot of ways to do this in Csound, one would be the usage of phasevocoders and the opcode (module) pvinterp: nchnls = 1 instr 1 ktime1 line 0, p3, 1 ; index A (playposition), change this to reflect the correct lengths ktime2 line 0, p3, 1 ; index B kinterp line 0,p3,1 ; morph index pvbufread ktime1, "A.pvc" apv pvinterp ktime2,1,"B2.pvc",1,1,1,1, kinterp,kinterp ; pvinterp index 2 file, f scale, filename, ; fscale 1 file, fscale 2 file, ; amp scale 1 , amp scale 2 ; freq morph factor, amp morph factor out apv endin don't forget you need to pvoc analyse your input to get the .pvc files and a score file with the right length, which influences p3. Other opcode doing simular but different artefacts: lpinterp for LPC resynthesis. > >> - Pure-Data got less modules, maybe because its decades younger then csound, but the key is fft again, once something is fft'ed you can do a lot with it. For instance convolution, a kind of crosssynthesis, is just done by multiplying fft spectra. So how about crossfade the convolutionspectra between to sounds and multiply it with another fft'ed sound. have fun, Malte -- Malte Steiner media art + development -www.block4.com- next event/ lecture: pure-data workshop 24.-25. july BEK, Bergen, Norway new releases: elektronengehirn softwareart on cdr magazine tinah#2: http://www.thisisnotahomepage.com From Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2004 13:33:20 -0400 From: david turgeon <xx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Fwd: Universe started with hiss, not bang To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Message-id: <x.x.x.xx.x.xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT =================================================== Electromagnetic News & Views -- #118 =================================================== [...] Universe started with hiss, not bang // audio file of the first million years... <http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns99995092> 'The variations in the cosmic background radiation expose the relative clumpiness of the early cosmos at a variety of different scales. These density variations began as quantum fluctuations in the moments after the big bang, and then propagated out as sonic waves. The denser regions became the seeds of galaxies and stars, which is why astronomers are so interested in them.' .. 'Translating the observed frequency spectrum directly to sound yields tones far too low for ears to hear - some 50 octaves below middle A - but transpose the score up all those octaves and you can listen to it.' [...] =================================================== * to subscribe to the electronetwork-list, send an e-mail to xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx with the following command in the body of the message: subscribe electronetwork-l * to unsubscribe: unsubscribe electronetwork-l * for more info contact human @ electronetwork.org --------------------------------------------------- please forward to your friends and colleagues --------------------------------------------------- the electromagnetic internetwork-list electromagnetism / infrastructure / civilization archives.openflows.org/electronetwork-l http://www.electronetwork.org/list/ From Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2004 18:06:26 -0400 From: Patrick Norris <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: RE: [microsound] Fwd: Universe started with hiss, not bang To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Message-id: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT More of a rumble than a hiss (below .0000000003 hz!)....a rumble considerably lower than the "brown noise" (rumored to be approx. 12hz) I guess it's still a bang in the max/msp sense... pats _________________________________________________________________ Looking to buy a house? Get informed with the Home Buying Guide from MSN House & Home. http://coldwellbanker.msn.com/ From Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2004 00:31:13 +0200 From: Arie van Schutterhoef <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> Subject: RE: [microsound] Fwd: Universe started with hiss, not bang To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <l03130303bcf67a35612d@[213.84.105.55]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT >I guess it's still a bang in the max/msp sense... -Probably more of a whimper... AvS . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ...................................................................... ` |Schreck Ensemble . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . + ` |# -laboratory for live electro-acoustic music- # | | http://www.schreck.nl/ | | http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/ | ` *===========================================================++ ` |Compositions http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/compo.html | ` |Samples http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/samp.html | ` |Patches http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/pat.html | ` |Videos http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/video.html | ` |Scores http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/scores.html | *===========================================================++ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ...................................................................... From Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2004 10:34:03 -0700 From: cjw <xxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: microsound in Hong Kong? To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Hello, I'll be going to Hong Kong this summer and I'm wondering if anyone has any recommendation on where to have a microsound or experimental music experience while I'm there. Any record shops or venues that would be good to check out? Any other off the beaten path recommendation would be appreciated as well. Thanks - c +++ +++ +++ +++ +++ +++ http://www.acidplanet.com/itHz http://www.acidplanet.com/neem http://www.employees.org/~cjw +++ +++ +++ +++ +++ +++ From Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2004 17:33:28 +1000 From: jon <xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] microsound in Hong Kong? To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v618) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT i remember asking the same questions a little while ago. as far as i remember, there is a record store on the kowloon side (i think it's in mong kok) called zoo records, which is in a shopping mall down the bottom in some tiny space... probably the best records i managed to find in hong kong. experimental music and post-rock fare as well... however, not much different to what you'd probably find back home. there's also another store in kowloon, the name of which i can't remember right now... it's pretty great and stocks a bunch of local experimental/interesting releases, as well as having the biggest stocked collection of muslimgauze i'd ever seen in one place. as for bands, they tend to float past very sporadically (mostly expat business jerks putting on very sparse little shows)... i met some great kids who made cool stuff on their computers, but hey, who knows where the rest are? good luck, jon. ii / scissors for sparrow / fibonacci users.tpg.com.au/adslalnw > Hello, I'll be going to Hong Kong this summer and I'm wondering if > anyone has any recommendation on where to have a microsound or > experimental music experience while I'm there. Any record shops or > venues that would be good to check out? Any other off the beaten path > recommendation would be appreciated as well. From Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2004 00:09:58 +0300 From: sarah-michelle geller <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: ezra hoffman To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Message-id: <xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT does anyone know where i can get more information about ezara hoffman and hoffman's software which is in-between sound and drawing? googling hasn't helped :-( _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2004 15:49:24 -0600 From: Charlie Fox <xxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxx.xx> Subject: The Art of Immersive Soundscapes To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.x@xxxxx.xxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Dear microsound community, Please note: THE ART OF IMMERSIVE SOUNDSCAPES A Summer Institute at the University of Regina July 5-19, 2004 The Department of Music and the Department of Media Production and Studies, University of Regina, are proud to present The Art of Immersive Soundscapes, an intensive two-week summer institute on the creation of multichannel, spatial audio soundscapes. Interested? Please visit: www.uregina.ca/soundscape Regards, Charles Fox Associate Professor Dept of Media Production and Studies Faculty of Fine Arts University of Regina Regina, Saskatchewan Canada From Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2004 18:25:16 -0400 From: Patrick Norris <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: RE: [microsound] prepared piano well, actually synthesizer. To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Message-id: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT (what could be a prepared synthetizer ?), there are two ways in my opinion to prepare a synth. (just thinking out loud) 1 circuit bending. bridging random pins on the ICs in the synthesizer. 2 preparing the loudspeakers that the synthesizer will play through. although neither of these is technically preparing a synthesizer, both will yeild interesting results. p _________________________________________________________________ Watch the online reality show Mixed Messages with a friend and enter to win a trip to NY http://www.msnmessenger-download.click-url.com/go/onm00200497ave/direct/01/ From Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 23:42:01 +0100 From: murray ward <xx_xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] prepared piano well, actually synthesizer. To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: murray ward <xx_xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patrick Norris" <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> To: <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2004 11:25 PM Subject: RE: [microsound] prepared piano well, actually synthesizer. > (what could be a prepared synthetizer ?), > > there are two ways in my opinion to prepare a synth. (just thinking out > loud) > > 1 circuit bending. bridging random pins on the ICs in the synthesizer. > I was lucky enough to witnes The Modified Toy Orchestra last weekend in Leicester as part of the Sonic Arts Network, Soundcircus event (anyone get to go?). The sounds this guy got out of these toys were fantastic (from glitches and sounscape kind of stuff to full on noise fest and barrage of beats) and the performance of him coaxing and wrenching out those sounds captivated the entire audience. I got the chance for a brief chat with Brian after the show where he explained that basically he traces a wire over the circuitboard causing shorts and if it has an interesting effect he puts a switch in. I found this on a quick search: http://westmidlands.ideasfactory.com/performance/features/feature22.htm it seems similar to the modified speak and spell on the Alien Instruments page graham posted. Also I bought a single on the night called "This Is The Monkey" on Warm Circuit (WWW.WARMCIRCUIT.COM) which isn't as good as the live stuff but still quite good (the other side "Ode To Joy" is better). Best Murray (dj_spleenbaby) From Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2004 23:13:34 -0400 From: graham miller <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] prepared piano well, actually synthesizer/circuit bending To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type=54455854; x-mac-creator=4D4F5353 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT www.alien-devices.com i have an alesis hr16 done by him and i'm sending off my tr-727 shortly to be lovingly butchered. awesome sounds. digital detritus at its best (god i love that word - thanks tobias). great for industrial, drill n' bass, noise and hard techno and all things lullaby-like... g. Patrick Norris wrote: > (what could be a prepared synthetizer ?), > > there are two ways in my opinion to prepare a synth. (just thinking out > loud) > > 1 circuit bending. bridging random pins on the ICs in the synthesizer. > > 2 preparing the loudspeakers that the synthesizer will play through. > > although neither of these is technically preparing a synthesizer, both will > yeild interesting results. > > p > > _________________________________________________________________ > Watch the online reality show Mixed Messages with a friend and enter to win > a trip to NY > http://www.msnmessenger-download.click-url.com/go/onm00200497ave/direct/01/ > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org From Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2004 11:26:22 -0400 From: precursor <xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] prepared piano well, actually synthesizer/circuit bending To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BCF7305E.20E7%xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT on 6/16/04 11:13 PM, graham miller at xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx wrote: > www.alien-devices.com > > i have an alesis hr16 done by him and i'm sending off my tr-727 shortly to be > lovingly butchered. awesome sounds. digital detritus at its best (god i love > that word - thanks tobias). great for industrial, drill n' bass, noise and > hard techno and all things lullaby-like... > > g. > > Patrick Norris wrote: > >> (what could be a prepared synthetizer ?), >> >> there are two ways in my opinion to prepare a synth. (just thinking out >> loud) >> >> 1 circuit bending. bridging random pins on the ICs in the synthesizer. >> >> 2 preparing the loudspeakers that the synthesizer will play through. >> >> although neither of these is technically preparing a synthesizer, both will >> yeild interesting results. >> >> p >> interesting, what do you mean by preparing speakers, can you list a few examples? From Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2004 12:49:51 +0200 From: bastien remion <xxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xx> Subject: Sources sonores!!! To: Forum <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Hello everybody... 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Cheason designs most of the artwork for the plop label -- www.inpartmaint.com/plop/ FM3 (cn), a Beijing-based collective of computer and classical musicians, fm3 focuses on digitally distilling ancient Chinese folk tradition into an organic, meditative, minimalist soundscape -- www.fm3.com.cn GHISLAIN POIRIER (ca), Montreal native Poirier released two critically-acclaimed full-lengths on experimental labels 12K and Intr_version. Recently his work appeared on Chocolate Industries. JANEK SCHAEFER [uk] Janek trained as an architect at the Royal College of Art, emerged as a sound artist and composer, and lives and works in London. He has releases on FatCat, Hot Air, Staalplaat, Sirr, Sub Rosa and runs AudiOh! -- www.audiOh.com BiP_HOp Generation [v.6] [bleep 19] SCANNER (uk) Since 1992, Robin Rimbaud has composed albums, soundtracks for films, performances, radio, and site-specific intermedia installations. www.scannerdot.com ILPO VAISANEN (Fi) 1/2 of renowned duo Pan Sonic, Ilpo goes solo once in a while. Check his records on Mego and Raster:Noton... ANGEL (De/Fi) the collaborative project of Schneider TM and Ilpo Väisänen. First album out on BiP_HOp. BATTERY OPERATED (Ca) trio living in Montreal, and Paris. www.batteryoperated.net ALEJANDRA & AERON (US/Es) Founders of the Lucky Kitchen label and recently prized at Ars Electronica. www.luckykitchen.com BITTONIC (De) improvised glitch-tech performances based around electronically manipulated and digitally warped voice sounds. Iris is co-organiser of London based Sprawl and Field 61. www.dfuse.com/BitTonic BiP_HOp Generation [v.5] [bleep 13] ACCELERA DECK (USA) Active in obscurity for many years he has crossed paths with Neo Ouija, Pitchcadet, Morr, 555 recordings... ANDREW DUKE (Ca) has been recording and performing his own music, producing and remixing others, and hosting his weekly radio show since 1987. Upcoming records on BiP_HOp, Staalplaat, Phtalo... MIKAEL STAVOSTRAND (Se) a key figure in the Swedish experimental music scene releasing on Mille Plateaux TONNE (UK) The last three years have seen Paul Farrington develop and produce controlled systems for sound and image interaction. He has worked with Scanner, Håkan Lidbo and Monolake. RECHENZENTRUM (De) creators of Maladjusted Electronica, who sample sound and image from every possible source - the potential of the raw material, irritation, and questioning the forms of reception are guiding lights... D'IBERVILLE (Fr) A music made of rhythm layers, digital artifacts and more organic sounds : process more than result ! Julien Berthier is the graphic designer of the BiP_HOp website and "generation series" artwork. + enhanced CD "BiP_HOp's soundtoy" created by Tonne. Interactive sound interfaces allow music to be visually produced, samples and tones are triggered by the activity of the graphics. BiP-HOp Generation v. 4 [bleep 08] MIRA CALIX (UK) south african born italian currently working on her second solo album, for Warp. SI-(CUT).DB (UK) is half of Tennis & running the Sprawl Imprint. DATACH'I (USA) comes from New-York, 3 albums on Caipirinha. TWINE (USA) releases on Komplott, Hefty. Vs_PRICE (France) is one of the best French acts, working on a 12" to appear on Adenoide. CRAY (Aus) released recordings with projects such as Eden, Amnesia, 56k and This Digital Ocean. Minimal meets sonic creations, glitch beats, ambient, abstract soundscapes, noise and melody, digital dreams and technology. BiP-HOp Generation v. 3 [bleep 05] NEOTROPIC (UK) aka Riz Maslen records for Ninja Tune BOVINE LIFE (UK) aka Chris Dooks is digital artist, broadcast tv director and musician who has collaborated w/ Third Eye Foundation, Komet, Kohn... First album upcoming on BiP_HOp. PIMMON (Australia) aka Paul Gough who seems to be everywhere... KraaK, Falt, Staalplaat, Meme... ZONK'T (France) aka Laurent Perrier who used to be in Nox and used to run Odd Size, Cape Fear and is now recording under this pseudonym. ATAU TANAKA (Japan) who records for Caipirinha, Fals.ch and does Sensorband. NOVEL 23 (Russia) aka Roman Belousov who has an album on Pitchcadet. BiP_HOp Generation v.2 [bleep 02] BERNARD FLEISCHMANN (Austria) who has records on Morr Music, Charhizma... AROVANE (Germany) has records on Din, Morr, City Centre Offices, Vertical Form WARMDESK (USA) has done records for Fällt, and Static Caravan + a split w. PImmon on A Posterori KÖHN (Belgium) has two albums on (Kraak)3. WANG INC. (Italy) has done a 12" on Sonig. LAURENT PERNICE (France) did 4 albums on PDCD and 2 new one are upcoming on Moloko+ and Organic. BiP_HOp Generation v.1 [bleep 01] : SCHNEIDER TM (Germany) records for City Slang. PHONEM (UK) has records with Morr Music, Jetlag... GOEM (the Netherlands) have done albums with Mego, Staalplaat, Noise MuseuM... MARUMARI (new-york) Latest albums on Carpark. ULTRA MILKMAIDS (France) Albums on Ant Zen, Noise MuseuM, Staalplaat ... MASSIMO (Italy) Albums on Microwave, Fals.ch/Mego and Staalplaat. http://www.bip-hop.com From Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2004 00:50:51 +1000 From: Simon Hampson <xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx.xx> Subject: Symbiosis Playlist - 13/6/04 To: Microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx.xx Message-id: <BGEGLJANJODPJPDMGMDIGEBHCMAA.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_R4Rlu0FeyrdpTM2c8tnd5w)" --Boundary_(ID_R4Rlu0FeyrdpTM2c8tnd5w) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT MessageSymbiosis "Sound Textures" Headphones recommended 12am - 2am Sunday nights (1pm - 3pm Sunday afternoon GMT) Time Zone Converter: http://wwp.greenwichmeantime.com/gmt-converter2.htm (Show broadcasts in GMT +10) 102.7 FM, Melbourne, Australia Listen online: http://www.rrr.org.au Symbiosis c/o Triple R PO Box 304 Fitzroy, VIC 3068 Australia xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx.xx presented by Simon Hampson -------------------------------------------- Hey there, It's been a while since the last Symbiosis email but things have been traveling nicely.. Last week Terre Thaemlitz had a chat to me about his first visit Australia, the 'Lovebomb' multimedia performance and the usual mix of great thought that always infuses his output. For those in Melbourne, the show details are: Friday 18 June, 7pm. Kaleide RMIT Union Theatre 360 Swanston Street, Melbourne The after party is at Safe and Sound.. totally free and best of all it's a birthday celebration! (1 to be exact) Come down and celebrate @ Bourgie, 397 Lt Lonsdale St. b/w Elizabeth & Queen St. This week's show will be pretty chilled - no guests at this stage... Coming Soon: Antiopic Records/Allegorical Power Series feature, Exclusive Sub Rosa mix and feature, all new website with streaming audio/archives! cheers, Simon. np: Vladislav Delay - "demo(n) tracks" / Leaf Sampler - "Delivery Room" Film: 'Supersize Me' Terre Thaemlitz: http://comatonse.com/thaemlitz/ -------------------------------------------- Show From Date: 13/06/04 Artist :: Track :: Album :: Label Terre Thaemlitz :: genrecide ('I wish Tricky'd Die Any Way I Hope') :: Modulation & Transformation 4 :: Mille Plateaux Wolfgang Voigt :: 1 :: 20 to 2000 :: Raster-Noton Vladislav Delay :: kainuu :: Demo(n) Tracks :: Huume - Terre Thaemlitz Interview including: chng yourlove from 'Lovebomb' (Mille Plateaux) welcome (time has left us) from 'Lovebomb' (Mille Plateaux) DT from 'Institutional Collaborative' (with Jane Dowe) (Mille Plateaux) SDII from 'Lovebomb' (Mille Plateaux) (I focused on Lovebomb for this interview but I highly recommend Terre's many past releases - check out www.comatonse.com) Quiet American :: donkey trains leaving marpha, nepal :: Phonography.org 4 :: www.phonography.org Lawrence English :: (excerpt) :: Ghost Towns :: Room40 Stalker :: #1 :: Empire :: Geometrik Scanner :: remix mouse on mars :: Utopian Diaries: Double Articulation :: Sub Rosa Murcof :: una :: Delivery Room :: Leaf Tu'M :: 12:46am :: domenica :: ERS Johan Skugge :: varmland voodoo :: Who Is Your Superhero? (OFFF 03) :: Red Qua :: stranger comforts have slipped by :: Motion :: Preservation ----------------------- To Unsubscribe from future Symbiosis mailings please email: xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx.xx ----------------------- --Boundary_(ID_R4Rlu0FeyrdpTM2c8tnd5w)-- From Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2004 08:18:24 -0700 From: "j.frede" <xxxxxx@xxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: current.array t-shirts by Steve Roden, Janek Schaefer and John Hudak To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>, xxxxxxxxx-xxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx, xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx, xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx Message-id: <002201c4547f$30fa3420$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT current recordings is proud to announce the launch of the new t-shirt line, current.array . current.array was created to bring you prints from composers working in the field of computer, microsound and lowercase music. many of the composers for the series you will be familiar with, some are lesser know, but none the less promising acts working in sound and design. when choosing the artists for the series we considered just that, composers whom also work as designers. each season will bring three new prints, from three different artists. each print will only be available for a short time in a very limited run of 50 pieces. printed on the highest quality t-shirts. each design will be sold in sizes (men's) small - medium - large summer.2004 brings us steve roden http://inbetweennoise.com (trente oiseaux, sirr, line/12k) janek schaefer http://www.audiOh.com (sub rosa, fat cat records, audiOh!) john hudak http://www.johnhudak.net (alluvial Recordings, intransitive recordings, and-oar) on sale June 23rd, 2004 you can reserve your shirt/s now on the website to see the new line of shirts visit... www.current-recordings.com also available June 23rd, the new j.frede/scanner cd titled "j.frede rewrites scanners diary" out on current recordings, preview audio clips can be heard on the site. From Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2004 12:19:39 -0400 From: graham miller <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] current.array t-shirts by Steve Roden, Janek Schaefer and John Hudak To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type=54455854; x-mac-creator=4D4F5353 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT great idea - does anyone know of any other microsound/glitch inspired clothing lines out there? i am in dire new of some new tees... g. "j.frede" wrote: > current recordings is proud to announce the launch of the new t-shirt line, > current.array . From Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2004 13:25:33 -0400 From: precursor <xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] current.array t-shirts by Steve Roden, Janek Schaefer and John Hudak To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BCF74C4D.20F8%xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT on 6/17/04 12:19 PM, graham miller at xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx wrote: > great idea - does anyone know of any other microsound/glitch inspired clothing > lines out there? i am in dire new of some new tees... > > g. > > "j.frede" wrote: > >> current recordings is proud to announce the launch of the new t-shirt line, >> current.array . > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > you should definitely check out www.Dotee.com From Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2004 19:40:32 -0400 From: graham miller <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] current.array t-shirts by Steve Roden,Janek Schaefer and John Hudak To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>, xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type=54455854; x-mac-creator=4D4F5353 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT all i get is the front page... how does one get in? precursor wrote: > on 6/17/04 12:19 PM, graham miller at xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx wrote: > > you should definitely check out www.Dotee.com > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org From Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2004 16:48:17 -0700 (PDT) From: vadim sprikut <xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] current.array t-shirts by Steve Roden,Janek Schaefer and John Hudak To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT the little sidebar/contact button says its being launched 5.1.04 v' --- graham miller <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> wrote: > all i get is the front page... how does one get in? > > precursor wrote: > > > on 6/17/04 12:19 PM, graham miller at > xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx wrote: > > > > you should definitely check out www.Dotee.com > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > For additional commands, e-mail: > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > website: http://www.microsound.org > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail From Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2004 01:53:04 +0100 From: Noisejihad <xxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] current.array t-shirts by Steve Roden,Janek Schaefer and John Hudak To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <007f01c454ce$9db3d0e0$xxxxxxxx@xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT yeah, but however you read it (5th jan or 1st may) this date has long passed... Lars www.waldchengarten.dk www.noisejihad.dk ----- Original Message ----- From: "vadim sprikut" <xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> To: "microsound" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Sent: Friday, June 18, 2004 12:48 AM Subject: Re: [microsound] current.array t-shirts by Steve Roden,Janek Schaefer and John Hudak > the little sidebar/contact button says its being > launched 5.1.04 > > v' > > --- graham miller <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> wrote: > > all i get is the front page... how does one get in? > > > > precursor wrote: > > > > > on 6/17/04 12:19 PM, graham miller at > > xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx wrote: > > > > > > you should definitely check out www.Dotee.com > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > > For additional commands, e-mail: > > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > > website: http://www.microsound.org > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > For additional commands, e-mail: > > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > website: http://www.microsound.org > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard. > http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > From Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2004 00:56:17 -0400 From: Al Ka <xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] current.array t-shirts by Steve Roden,Janek Schaefer and John Hudak To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Message-id: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Thank you for your inquiries. We apologize for the delay; we are currently finalizing the script for the website. In the meantime, if you are interested, we can email our collection in digital form (off-list). As soon as the website is complete, the list will certainly be informed. -- Dotee beings > >yeah, but however you read it (5th jan or 1st may) this date has long >passed... >Lars > > > > the little sidebar/contact button says its being > > launched 5.1.04 > > > > v' > > > > --- graham miller <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> wrote: > > > all i get is the front page... how does one get in? > > > > > > precursor wrote: > > > > > > > on 6/17/04 12:19 PM, graham miller at > > > xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx wrote: > > > > > > > > you should definitely check out www.Dotee.com _________________________________________________________________ Stop worrying about overloading your inbox - get MSN Hotmail Extra Storage! http://join.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200362ave/direct/01/ From Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2004 09:36:51 -0400 From: Eloy Anzola <xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: RE: [microsound] current.array t-shirts by Steve Roden,Janek Schaefer and John Hudak To: 'microsound' <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <000001c45539$51993b30$xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT The mother of t-shirts sites, which happens to be doing a contest: http://www.threadless.com/ I like: http://www.threadless.com/product/48.html http://www.threadless.com/product/114.html http://www.threadless.com/product/109.html http://www.threadless.com/product/100.html etc, etc... cheers, Eloy ----- xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > -----Original Message----- > From: Noisejihad [mailto:xxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xx] > Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2004 8:53 PM > To: microsound > Subject: Re: [microsound] current.array t-shirts by Steve > Roden,Janek Schaefer and John Hudak > > > yeah, but however you read it (5th jan or 1st may) this date has long > passed... > Lars > www.waldchengarten.dk > www.noisejihad.dk > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "vadim sprikut" <xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> > To: "microsound" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> > Sent: Friday, June 18, 2004 12:48 AM > Subject: Re: [microsound] current.array t-shirts by Steve Roden,Janek > Schaefer and John Hudak > > > > the little sidebar/contact button says its being > > launched 5.1.04 > > > > v' > > > > --- graham miller <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> wrote: > > > all i get is the front page... how does one get in? > > > > > > precursor wrote: > > > > > > > on 6/17/04 12:19 PM, graham miller at > > > xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx wrote: > > > > > > > > you should definitely check out www.Dotee.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > > > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: > > > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > > > website: http://www.microsound.org > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > > > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > > For additional commands, e-mail: > > > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > > website: http://www.microsound.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard. > > http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > website: http://www.microsound.org > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > > From Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2004 12:26:48 -0400 From: graham miller <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: force inc? To: Microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type=54455854; x-mac-creator=4D4F5353 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT what happened to the website? the company? From Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2004 18:40:50 +0200 From: The Expert <xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] force inc? To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v618) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Force Inc / Mille Plateaux / Ritornell etc. seems to have gone down the drain due to the EFA crash (big German "Indie" distributor) > what happened to the website? the company? > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > From Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2004 18:59:24 +0200 From: xxxxxxxxxxxx@x-xxxxxx.xx (Christopher Kreiss) Subject: Re: [microsound] force inc? To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <163d01c4548c$71bf8cf0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Didn't Achim Szepanski himself announce the forthcoming release of "Clicks 'n' Cuts 4" and some stuff by Thomas Köner, some weeks ago on this list? As I heard, the situation of the company became more and more chaotic, recently... > > what happened to the website? the company? From Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2004 10:24:04 -0700 (PDT) From: eight fm <xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] force inc? To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT things have changed....but they will be resurfacing soon.....clicks and cuts 4 among other things should be out round august....I think achim posted some upcoming releases here a while back.... --- The Expert <xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote: > Force Inc / Mille Plateaux / Ritornell etc. seems to > have gone down the > drain due to the EFA crash (big German "Indie" > distributor) > > > > what happened to the website? the company? > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > For additional commands, e-mail: > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > website: http://www.microsound.org > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > ===== www.eight-frozen-modules.com __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail From Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2004 18:04:45 -0400 (EDT) From: Neil Wiernik <xxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] force inc? To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT force inc = efa bancruptcy earlier this year... On Thu, 17 Jun 2004, graham miller wrote: > what happened to the website? the company? > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > -------------------------------------- [neil adam wiernik aka naw] xxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx [music available on] http://www.noisefactoryrecords.com http://www.pieheadrecords.com http://www.worthyrecords.com http://www.complot.ca [artist features] http://www.clevermusic.net http://www.newmusiccanada.com http://www.cognitionaudioworks.com -------------------------------------- From Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2004 19:37:34 -0400 From: graham miller <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] force inc? To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_2zmPpmXDZEpD55lncVyVJQ)" --Boundary_(ID_2zmPpmXDZEpD55lncVyVJQ) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type=54455854; x-mac-creator=4D4F5353 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT i think i might have contracted 'bancruptcy' while abroad. no worries though - i've notified the CDC. i'll be placed in isolation with nothing but a circuit bent speak and spell to nurse me back to health. g. Neil Wiernik wrote: > force inc = efa bancruptcy earlier this year... > > On Thu, 17 Jun 2004, graham miller wrote: > > > what happened to the website? the company? > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > website: http://www.microsound.org > > > > > > -------------------------------------- > [neil adam wiernik aka naw] > xxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx > [music available on] > http://www.noisefactoryrecords.com > http://www.pieheadrecords.com > http://www.worthyrecords.com > http://www.complot.ca > [artist features] > http://www.clevermusic.net > http://www.newmusiccanada.com > http://www.cognitionaudioworks.com > > -------------------------------------- > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org --Boundary_(ID_2zmPpmXDZEpD55lncVyVJQ)-- From Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2004 08:26:52 +0200 From: Micard <xxxxxxx@xxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] force inc? To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v543) Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT I just received some new products from the Mille Plateaux galaxy, with "Nuuk" by Thomas Köner, as a CD+DVD, and Bizz Circuits play Intifada Offspring. It seems though that MP switch from EFA to Neuton for distro... Let's wait and see. JF From Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2004 02:46:54 -0400 From: andrew jones <xxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] force inc? To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v553) Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT yeah that and what is it MDM or MGM seem to be the new german distros. - a On Friday, June 18, 2004, at 02:26 AM, Micard wrote: > I just received some new products from the Mille Plateaux galaxy, with > "Nuuk" by Thomas Köner, as a CD+DVD, and Bizz Circuits play Intifada > Offspring. > > It seems though that MP switch from EFA to Neuton for distro... Let's > wait and see. > > JF > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > Andrew Jones 912 Euclid Ave. Birmingham, AL, 35213 407-927-7607 aim: liminal18 From Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2004 09:10:10 +0200 (CEST) From: Daniel Brozek <xxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] force inc? To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxx.xxx.x.xxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxx.xxxxx.xxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT On Fri, 18 Jun 2004, Micard wrote: > I just received some new products from the Mille Plateaux galaxy, with > "Nuuk" by Thomas Köner, as a CD+DVD, and Bizz Circuits play Intifada > Offspring. Are these releases available to buy somewhere on-line? daniel From Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2004 10:51:49 +0200 From: Marco Messina <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] force inc? To: "microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BCF879C5.8F1D%xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT mdm.de http://www.mutualism.de/ marco messina [] [] [] [] [] [] http://www.mousikelab.com/ http://www.novenove.it/ http://www.folderstudio.com/ [] [] [] [] [] [] > yeah that and what is it MDM or MGM seem to be > the new german distros. > > - > a > > > On Friday, June 18, 2004, at 02:26 AM, Micard wrote: > >> I just received some new products from the Mille Plateaux galaxy, with >> "Nuuk" by Thomas Köner, as a CD+DVD, and Bizz Circuits play Intifada >> Offspring. >> >> It seems though that MP switch from EFA to Neuton for distro... Let's >> wait and see. >> >> JF >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> website: http://www.microsound.org >> >> > Andrew Jones > 912 Euclid Ave. > Birmingham, AL, 35213 > 407-927-7607 > aim: liminal18 > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > From Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2004 11:22:28 +0200 From: Kassen <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] force inc? To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <003301c45515$c862aa40$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT JF; > I just received some new products from the Mille Plateaux galaxy, with > "Nuuk" by Thomas Köner, as a CD+DVD, and Bizz Circuits play Intifada > Offspring. Wow! dvd material by köner? that sounds quite interesting. Can I ask what´s on the dvd? Is Nuuk a straight rerelease of the Nuuk cd that was in the "Driftworks" box that was released by Bigcat in ´97 or are there some extras? While I´m at it; does anybody know wether there are some video recordings of Köner´s experiments with Jürgen Reble where they treated film loops with chemicals? I own the "Kaamos" cd but it seems incomplete without the images. Yours, Kas. From Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2004 08:04:09 -0400 (EDT) From: Neil Wiernik <xxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] force inc? To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT I was woundering is MDM the result of efa or was it set up for monolake and imbalance records alone? Im a bit confused by it all... I was under the impression that kompakt took over most of what efa left behind but I really dont know... On Fri, 18 Jun 2004, andrew jones wrote: > yeah that and what is it MDM or MGM seem to be > the new german distros. > > - > a > > > On Friday, June 18, 2004, at 02:26 AM, Micard wrote: > > > I just received some new products from the Mille Plateaux galaxy, with > > "Nuuk" by Thomas Köner, as a CD+DVD, and Bizz Circuits play Intifada > > Offspring. > > > > It seems though that MP switch from EFA to Neuton for distro... Let's > > wait and see. > > > > JF > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > website: http://www.microsound.org > > > > > Andrew Jones > 912 Euclid Ave. > Birmingham, AL, 35213 > 407-927-7607 > aim: liminal18 > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > -------------------------------------- [neil adam wiernik aka naw] xxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx [music available on] http://www.noisefactoryrecords.com http://www.pieheadrecords.com http://www.worthyrecords.com http://www.complot.ca [artist features] http://www.clevermusic.net http://www.newmusiccanada.com http://www.cognitionaudioworks.com -------------------------------------- From Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2004 14:14:38 +0200 From: Marco Messina <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] force inc? To: "microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BCF8A94E.8F4B%xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT our label, mousikelab, is going to be distribuited by mdm..... marco messina [] [] [] [] [] [] http://www.mousikelab.com/ http://www.novenove.it/ http://www.folderstudio.com/ [] [] [] [] [] [] > > I was woundering is MDM the result of efa or was it set up for monolake > and imbalance records alone? Im a bit confused by it all... > I was under the impression that kompakt took over most of what efa left > behind but I really dont know... > > > > On Fri, 18 Jun 2004, andrew jones wrote: > >> yeah that and what is it MDM or MGM seem to be >> the new german distros. >> >> - >> a >> >> >> On Friday, June 18, 2004, at 02:26 AM, Micard wrote: >> >>> I just received some new products from the Mille Plateaux galaxy, with >>> "Nuuk" by Thomas Köner, as a CD+DVD, and Bizz Circuits play Intifada >>> Offspring. >>> >>> It seems though that MP switch from EFA to Neuton for distro... Let's >>> wait and see. >>> >>> JF >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >>> For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >>> website: http://www.microsound.org >>> >>> >> Andrew Jones >> 912 Euclid Ave. >> Birmingham, AL, 35213 >> 407-927-7607 >> aim: liminal18 >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> website: http://www.microsound.org >> >> > > -------------------------------------- > [neil adam wiernik aka naw] > xxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx > [music available on] > http://www.noisefactoryrecords.com > http://www.pieheadrecords.com > http://www.worthyrecords.com > http://www.complot.ca > [artist features] > http://www.clevermusic.net > http://www.newmusiccanada.com > http://www.cognitionaudioworks.com > -------------------------------------- > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > From Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2004 12:09:14 -0700 From: Bill Jarboe <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] audio formats To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BCF73A2D.811E%xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT hi , you were commenting on the limitations(?) of CD audio and i had a few thoughts. from what i have gathered , most of the problems are in the output ( digital to analogue) conversion . if you have a good converter , almost everything sounds better. i find some of the 1-bit converters to be especially good. i have two questions for the list at large. has anyone listed much to SACD? what are the impressions? (that's a two part question actually) is there any single bitstream dsp happening? ---- bill on 6/13/04 4:37 PM, Kim Cascone at xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx wrote: > http://www.anandtech.com/audio/showdoc.html?i=2079 > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > From Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2004 19:35:54 +0000 From: ian stewart <xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] audio formats To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Message-id: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT I haven't heard SACD, but the following comments from Dominique Bassal's paper on mastering in electroacoustic music might be of interest (published on the CEC webpage, in the original French: cec.concordia.ca/ftp/La_pratique_du_Mastering.pdf and in English translation: cec.concordia.ca/ftp/The_Practice_of_Mastering.pdf): "[SACD] consists of an extension of the oversampling technique called DSD, capable of offering, due to a sampling rate of 2.8224 mHz at 1 bit, a frequency response ranging from direct current to 100 kHz and a dynamic range of 120 dB. This said, the lack of timeliness of Super Audio CD is dismaying: -it is based on a technology completely at odds with LPCM, used in all digital systems to this day. No current recording system, program, plug-in, etc can be adapted to it, and the specific sound recording and treatment tools are very rare and exorbitantly expensive; - even if largely considered, from the point of view of sound quality, as equal to or marginally superior to LPCM 24 bit/96 kHz and 24 bit/192 kHz, SACD, like CD-Audio before it- but unlike its high-density LPCM competitors- is a closed format, offering few possibilities of integration with eventual improvements; - unlike DVD-Audio readers, for which a FireWire digital output is foreseen, offering at least the possibility of a D/A conversion by a specialized external device, all SACD readers, with one exception, are equipped only with analog outputs. An aberrant contradiction with the audiophile vocation of the format; - and of course, it is out of the question for an SACD reader to read DVD-A, and vice-versa. As for the possibility of reading an SACD on a CD-Audio player, it is illusory: for a much higher price than CD, we get a performance exactly the same, since all that’s happening is that an entirely separate layer is being read from the SACD, at the Red Book standard! " best, Ian _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself with cool new emoticons http://www.msn.co.uk/specials/myemo From Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2004 12:44:47 -0700 From: "j.frede" <xxxxxx@xxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] audio formats To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <003901c454a3$947c19e0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT funny you should mention SACD, i was just reading about this format on the where i get my CDs made,,, it sounds really amazing! anyone that has not heard of this format can read in brief about it here http://www.cdman.com/store/sacd.html it explains the process and such... its too bad that you have to have a SACD player to experience the surround sound aspects,,we can only hope that all future cd players become equipped with this technology. i havent heard any work in this format you, but from what i have heard about it, im sure the next release i do on my label will be in SACD format... j.frede current location: los angeles | www.jfrede.com | www.lomohomes.com/j.frede out.june.23rd | j.frede/scanner | "j.frede rewrites scanners diary" | CD Digipak | www.current-recordings.com installations | june.28th | surface sculpture | highways artspace | Santa Monica, CA | july.24th | undertow installation | sounds from below | LACMA | Los Angeles, CA | august.21st | undertow installation | "siren song for parthenope" | Soundwalk 2004 | Long Beach, CA > > hi , > > you were commenting on the limitations(?) of CD audio and i had a few > thoughts. from what i have gathered , most of the problems are in the output > ( digital to analogue) conversion . if you have a good converter , almost > everything sounds better. i find some of the 1-bit converters to be > especially good. > > i have two questions for the list at large. > > has anyone listed much to SACD? what are the impressions? > > (that's a two part question actually) > > is there any single bitstream dsp happening? > > > > ---- > > bill > > > > > > on 6/13/04 4:37 PM, Kim Cascone at xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx wrote: > > > http://www.anandtech.com/audio/showdoc.html?i=2079 > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > website: http://www.microsound.org > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > > From Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2004 19:21:53 -0500 From: chris bryan <xx__xx__@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: usb audio devices??? To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Message-id: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Hey, I was looking at the "M-Audio MobilePre USB" that was reviewed in grooves magazine. It looks good, but I have no experience with these things. Does anyone have any recommendations? I need something for my laptop, that has a good in/out on it without spending to much $$$$$. Thanks, chris _________________________________________________________________ MSN Premium includes powerful parental controls and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines From Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2004 12:27:28 +1200 From: Niklas Werner <xxxxxxxxx@xxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] usb audio devices??? To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Message-id: <200406181227.28649.xxxxxxxxx@xxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT On Fri, 18 Jun 2004 12:21, chris bryan wrote: > Hey, > I was looking at the "M-Audio MobilePre USB" that was reviewed in > grooves magazine. It looks good, but I have no experience with these > things. Does anyone have any recommendations? I need something for my > laptop, that has a good in/out on it without spending to much $$$$$. I run this blue baby quite happily: http://www.emagic.de/products/hw/A26/index.php?lang=EN I think it was €350, back when I bought it... pristine sound, easy handling. AND -- most important -- it runs under Linux O:-) Cheers, Niklas -- Computer Music PhD-student University of Waikato Hamilton New Zealand From Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2004 03:12:29 +0200 From: Marco Messina <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] usb audio devices??? To: "microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BCF80E1D.8F08%xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Ciao, I'm using an m-audio 410 (firewire) with my laptop and sounds good for the price (400€) marco messina [] [] [] [] [] [] http://www.mousikelab.com/ http://www.novenove.it/ http://www.folderstudio.com/ [] [] [] [] [] [] > Hey, > I was looking at the "M-Audio MobilePre USB" that was reviewed in grooves > magazine. It looks good, but I have no experience with these things. Does > anyone have any recommendations? I need something for my laptop, that has a > good in/out on it without spending to much $$$$$. > Thanks, > chris > > _________________________________________________________________ > MSN Premium includes powerful parental controls and get 2 months FREE* > http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http: > //hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > From Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2004 09:48:13 +0200 From: xxxxxxxx_xxxxxxx@xxx.xx Subject: Re: [microsound] usb audio devices??? To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx.xxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT hello ut's possible to pay less than 400 $ (in italy cost 415 euro...) but you can check at these adresses http://floridamusicco.com/proddetail.asp?prod=Firewire410 http://shop.pcconnection.com btw ----------> great tool for home recording... cheers gianluca >-- Messaggio originale -- >Reply-To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> > From Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2004 03:12:29 +0200 >From: Marco Messina <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx> >To: "microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> >Subject: Re: [microsound] usb audio devices??? > > >Ciao, >I'm using an m-audio 410 (firewire) with my laptop and sounds good for the >price (400¤) > >marco messina >[] [] [] [] [] [] >http://www.mousikelab.com/ >http://www.novenove.it/ >http://www.folderstudio.com/ >[] [] [] [] [] [] > > >> Hey, >> I was looking at the "M-Audio MobilePre USB" that was reviewed in grooves >> magazine. It looks good, but I have no experience with these things. >Does >> anyone have any recommendations? I need something for my laptop, that >has a >> good in/out on it without spending to much $$$$$. >> Thanks, >> chris >> >> _________________________________________________________________ >> MSN Premium includes powerful parental controls and get 2 months FREE* >> http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http: >> //hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> website: http://www.microsound.org >> > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >website: http://www.microsound.org > From Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2004 10:59:13 +0200 From: The Expert <xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] usb audio devices??? To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v618) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT German dealer THOMANN (http://www.thomann.de) is offering an interesting bundle incl. MAYA USB (4 in, 4 out, 16 Bit), CUBASE SE and MIDIMAN OXYGEN keyboard (incl. REASON adapted), crossplatform (MAC/WIN), at the total price of 222 Euro plus shipping. > Hey, > I was looking at the "M-Audio MobilePre USB" that was reviewed in > grooves magazine. It looks good, but I have no experience with these > things. Does anyone have any recommendations? I need something for > my laptop, that has a good in/out on it without spending to much > $$$$$. > Thanks, > chris > > _________________________________________________________________ > MSN Premium includes powerful parental controls and get 2 months FREE* > > http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/ > prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/ > enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > From Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2004 21:29:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Jorge Blank <xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: re: prepared piano To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT the best prepared piano playing/music I ever heard was Aurie Hsu from San Francisco. 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Juni 2004 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Weitere Informationen / further information: www.podewil.de +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Programm /program Zusatzveranstaltung: 18.06., 20.30 Uhr Klub transmediale.salon in Kooperation mit club transmediale Ultra-Red meets Kanak Attak - work in progress [THE TRANSISTORS TOUR] - Sound Art Activism and Migrant Resistance Soundperformances und Präsentationen von: 1. MANUELA BOJADZIJEV (Kanak Attak) "Trans-It! Migrations" 2. ELLIOT PERKINS (fka Phonem) "Eurodac Express" 3. DONT RHINE (Ultra-red) "Jack Tactic" 19.06., 20.00 GONE WEST Lou Simard, Marie-France Goulet, Ingo Ahmels (Konzeption), Lou Simard (Performance) Mit freundlicher Unterstützung der Botschaft von Kanada Berlin. 21. 06. + 22.06., jeweils 20.00 gmb-H (KAOSS v KAOSS) Deutschlandpremiere Graham Lewis (Wire)(GB), Bruce Gilbert (Wire)(GB), Carl Michael von Hausswolff (S), Rikard Sporrong (Elektronik, Video) (S) Gmb-H wird unterstützt durch den Schwedischen Audio/Visual-Techniker Rikard Sporrong. Eintritt 19./21./22.6. 11/8 Euro tansmediale.salon 5 Euro Programm/program: Elke Moltrecht PODEWIL, Klosterstr. 68-70, 10179-Berlin www.podewil.de Infos: 24749-732, Karten 24749-777 (Mo-Fr, 14-19 Uhr) From Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2004 15:09:30 +0300 (EEST) From: Karri Ojanen <xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] EFA et.c (was: force inc?) To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxx.xx.xxx.xx.x.xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Hausmusik also picked up a couple of labels formerly distributed by EFA. At least Disko B. - Karri O. > I was woundering is MDM the result of efa or was it set up for monolake > and imbalance records alone? Im a bit confused by it all... > I was under the impression that kompakt took over most of what efa left > behind but I really dont know... > > > > On Fri, 18 Jun 2004, andrew jones wrote: > >> yeah that and what is it MDM or MGM seem to be >> the new german distros. >> >> - >> a >> >> >> On Friday, June 18, 2004, at 02:26 AM, Micard wrote: >> >> > I just received some new products from the Mille Plateaux galaxy, with >> > "Nuuk" by Thomas Köner, as a CD+DVD, and Bizz Circuits play Intifada >> > Offspring. >> > >> > It seems though that MP switch from EFA to Neuton for distro... Let's >> > wait and see. >> > >> > JF >> > >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> > website: http://www.microsound.org >> > >> > >> Andrew Jones >> 912 Euclid Ave. >> Birmingham, AL, 35213 >> 407-927-7607 >> aim: liminal18 >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> website: http://www.microsound.org >> >> > > -------------------------------------- > [neil adam wiernik aka naw] > xxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx > [music available on] > http://www.noisefactoryrecords.com > http://www.pieheadrecords.com > http://www.worthyrecords.com > http://www.complot.ca > [artist features] > http://www.clevermusic.net > http://www.newmusiccanada.com > http://www.cognitionaudioworks.com > -------------------------------------- > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > From Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2004 08:24:29 -0500 From: "s. arden hill" <x_xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Arctic Rangers To: xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx, xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx, xxxxxxxxx-xxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx Message-id: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Hello Everyone.. I have a copy of Pan Sonic's Rare boxset Artic Rangers "Self-Assembly Soundscape Set" that I am looking to sell. The condition is really good and all the pieces and decals are still in tack. Also it is signed by the boys. I originally paid 90 Dem for it and it is very wanted. I am looking for American Dollars. Make me an offer. thanks Arden p.s., I also have 12k1008 still for sale. co-editor, Juice Journal http://scholar.uwinnipeg.ca/journals/juice/JUICE.htm s. arden hill | duul_drv http://members.shaw.ca/duul_drv/ | xxxx_xxx@xxxx.xx Voted 1 of 15 DODGY group names in the WIRE - APRIL 2003. _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the MSN Premium and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines From Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2004 13:26:30 +0000 From: scott allison <xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Koner/MP/Ritonel? To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Message-id: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT That is great news to hear that a new koner release is out. Regarding the visual work of koner, I remember seeing a project on his web site that involved footage taken from security cameras of snow covered roads, seemed wonderful, maybe that will make it's way to DVD?. Was it not so that MP was/is slated to release a book concerning sound art? Are they going to scrap this plan??? Also does anyone know if Ritonel will continue to exist? Thanks Scott Allison _________________________________________________________________ Check out the coupons and bargains on MSN Offers! http://youroffers.msn.com From Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2004 12:46:36 -0400 (GMT-04:00) From: sean donovan <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: additive synth question To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: sean donovan <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxxx@xxxxxx.xxx.xxx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT has anyone used the virsyn cube additive softsynth? any thoughts/opinions regarding it or another additive softsynth would be greatly appreciated. sean From Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2004 09:54:44 -0700 From: Richard Zvonar <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] additive synth question To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <p0610050dbcf8ce90deb5@[192.168.0.2]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_5dYhqQTtJ/cIoFtRSMdp/w)" --Boundary_(ID_5dYhqQTtJ/cIoFtRSMdp/w) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT At 12:46 PM -0400 6/18/04, sean donovan wrote: >has anyone used the virsyn cube additive softsynth? any >thoughts/opinions regarding it or another additive softsynth would >be greatly appreciated. See my review at audioMIDI.com: http://www.audiomidi.com/aboutus/reviews/zvonar_cube.cfm -- ______________________________________________________________ Richard Zvonar, PhD (818) 788-2202 http://www.zvonar.com http://RZCybernetics.com --Boundary_(ID_5dYhqQTtJ/cIoFtRSMdp/w)-- From Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2004 22:10:19 +0300 From: visa <xxxx.xxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] additive synth question To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>, sean donovan <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <002d01c45631$10579ce0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT www.kvr-vst.com is a great place to get information on issues like this. Search the forums & read users' reviews. In addition to Virsyn Cube, I'd suggest investigating into Whitenoise Additive, Camel Audio Cameleon 5000 and DiscoDSP Vertigo. Visa ----- Original Message ----- > has anyone used the virsyn cube additive softsynth? any thoughts/opinions regarding it or another additive softsynth would be greatly appreciated. > > sean > From Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2004 15:57:52 -0400 (EDT) From: Neil Wiernik <xxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: phoniq hosts <FM> CD launch July 2 2004 To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT PRESS RELEASE ---------------------------------------------------- friday july 2 2004 phoniq hosts a launch for the ckut benefit cd < modular systems FM > featuring : pheek - live - www.epsilonlab.com naw - live - www.noisefactoryrecords.com zen - live - ms zaandam khanfucius - dj - panospria.com cyan - dj - modular systems ckut fm jose garcia - visuals - fifteen pounds all happening at casa del popolo, 4873 st-laurent montreal, canada for the small amount of $5.00 $10.00 including cd all proceeds go to ckut for more info visit www.phoniq.net On July 2nd 2004, the phoniq collective hosts the launch of the <modular systems FM> compilation. <FM> is a benefit cd for ckut-fm, featuring 7 tracks donated by montreal electronic music artists. All proceeds from the sales of this cd goes towards the operating budget for the radio station. the event will showcase 3 of the <FM> artists: PHEEK, whose second release on epsilonlab records, "les autres promeneurs", broadens his journey in music making into innovative yet dance friendly realms. NAW, noise factory recording artist and phoniq resident, will immerse you in experimental and deep dub influnced techno and house. ZEN, recently embarked from the MS Zaandam, melds together unexpected elements of dub, experimental sounds and electronica. phoniq residents khanfucius and cyan will open and close the night with dj sets, and local projection artist jose garcia will construct a visual environment via various projection sources. BIOS/INFO phoniq ------ www.phoniq.net phoniq is a collective of individuals dedicated to promoting bleeding edge electronic art in interesting variable environments, with an emphasis on exposing aural and visual talent that has not yet been exposed to the electronic arts communities of montreal. We aim to showcase upstart music producers, djs, record labels and emerging visual artists all working in electronic realms. Our foremost goal is to showcase off the wall and raw genres of music and visual electronic arts- not just those that are currently "en vogue" or will be shortly. The concept for phoniq came together through the chance meeting of 2 active members of the montreal/canadian electronic music and digital arts community: ckut-fm dj/host cyan and dub glitch techno producer naw. phoniq has grown out of the combined histories of these 2 individuals. naw brings the clonk legacy that he created 6 years ago in toronto, which hosted such artists as: monolake, kit clayton and sutekh. cyan brings her ongoing involvement in community radio (modular systems), event coordinating and dj talents. ckut 90.3 fm ------------- www.ckut.ca CKUT 90.3 FM McGill Radio Inc. is a non-profit campus community radio station that provides alternative music, news and spoken word programming to the city of Montreal and surrounding areas. We broadcast 24 hours a day, every day. Hear us at 90.3 MHz on your FM dial, or 91.7 by cable, or tune in by Real Audio over the Internet. modular systems is an electronic music magazine show featuring new music and interviews with local and international artists. tune in every second Tuesday at 3pm. pheek ----- www.pheek.com epsilonlab, thinner Born in 1972, Jean-Patrice Rmillard was immediately attracted to music. His parents recall the day when he discovered how to use a turntable and from there on out, he would listen to old rock records endlessly. Perhaps the most important discovery for JP was when his babysitter gave him a Bee-Gees record for his birthday and he was introduced to dance music. JP became interested in acid house in the late 80s and raves in early 90s, inspiring him to DJ his own radio shows in Sherbrooke, Qubec. From his college years to university, he played techno, house and anything exciting to people whose ears werent as close to the ground. Upon moving to Montreal in 1997 to study computer science, JP met Mateo Murphy and found they shared similar musical interests. After performing a show with Gez Varley, Mateo and JP decided to work on a live concept of their own, based on improvising beats on the fly and mixing in other synthesized sonic textures. It was at this point that JP adopted the name of Pheek after a Richie Hawtin/Plastikman performance at Medialounge, a show that would forever change his perspective on music. After further honing their live show together, Pheek and Mateo opened for Chain Reaction at the FCMM in 1999. They were spotted by Hautec and offered to release a 12 inch marking a turning point in their fledgling careers. The few years that followed saw proposed releases on Hybrid Structure and collaborations with Mitchell Akiyama on various projects a creative period that proved a catalyst for JPs later success. The next pivotal point in Pheeks career was meeting Eloi Brunelle and subsequently being invited to join to the Epsilonlab media collective. JP played with them since the very first night of their existence and for almost every show to follow. His first release for Epsilonlab, 2002s Paysages Matriciels, was a critical success and was nominated for Quebecs prestigious ADISQ music awards. Later that year, Pheek and Eloi toured Europe together, playing shows in Paris, Lyon, Switzerland, Cologne and London. This trip opened up new possibilities for the duo and they completed a second European tour the following year. Recently, JP teamed up with Thinner, one of the more recognized MP3 labels. As well as contributing tracks to Thinners compilations and releasing Tabisuru Kokoro in late 2003, he has coordinated many of their live events, including a Thinner vs. Epsilonlab showcase. As a veteran of the Epsilonlab team, Pheek has released his second album with the label. This will mark the beginning of a new era in the Montreal based label as they will launch a mp3 department. naw --- www.noisefactoryrecords.com aka Neil Wiernik (b.1967) Montreal native Neil Wiernik began his explorations in electronic music making as early as 1988. Known to push the boundaries of his musical form from designing new or manipulating existing sound making devices and software to creative uses of production environments and sound sources, naws music is a blend of sound manipulation/design, experimental musics and dub-tech rhythms, which on the surface sound quite simple, but incorporate a number of touches that steer this artist away from being simply another minimal techno or experimental laptop artist. He combines post-house, dubby minimal techno, microsound and thick ambience, to create his own version of deep techno, house and other electronic laptop orineted musics. Neil has released music on various national and international record labels, including releases on Noise Factory, Worthy, Complot, Piehead, A/S Systems, Wabi and Future Rhetoric. As naw, Neil has performed extensively along side a variety of national and international artists both in and outside of Canada. August 2004 naw will release his follow up noise factory records full length record called: "green nights orange days", this record finds Neil at his deepest and dubbiest yet, the release of this record will co inside with a series of North American and European tour dates through out the late summer and fall of 2004. zen --- ms zaandam zen nakamura currently finished a contract aboard a cruise boat as a jazz drummer. While he played all styles of music from the mambo, the cha-cha, swing and other typical ballroom and lounge music, he was composing varied styles of electronic music. Though a dub-reggae/drum'nbass head at heart, his studies in electroacoustics and love of most types of music influenced his infusion of genres all across the board. jose garcia ----------- fifteen pounds Life on the train, or walking in the park or watching the news.....Lying in the grass...that sort of stuff, vultures feeding too. Geronimo's dusty desert brawl in panavision then transfered to super 8. the walls flap, figures sail down a hall with brief cases. It all started in front of the Chateau Laurier, Ottawa. a few years later and something keeps me looking around the corner. khanfucius / scant intone -------------------------- Constantine Katsiris (b. 1980 - Saskatoon, Canada) Constantine has been active in exploring the electronic arts since the early 1990s. He became involved in the BBS scene at a young age, tracking music modules and drawing ascii art. By 1996 he chose the alias Khanfucius and began as a DJ, playing an assortment of strange, abstract and ambient music at local clubs, raves and other events in the prairies. His active involvement in the scene spawned many projects, including the event production company Uninhibited Sound System with his fellow DJs and the artistic collective Panospria. Musical side projects around this time included playing laptop and synths in the improv electronic band Mandelbrot Set and co-producing an album as Break Fluid with Sasafras of the hip hop group Isosceles. His first solo album as Khanfucius, The Phuzzillogikal Basement Tapes 96-98, was compiled and released independently prior to moving to Dublin, Ireland in 1999. This release caught the attention of radio DJ Keith Downey who invited him to co-host his show on Kiss FM called Psychonavigation. Keith would go on to start Psychonavigation Records and release music by Constantine and his Canadian associates. Upon his return to Canada, he took up residence in Ontario and studied in the fields of audio and multimedia. Since 2001, his focus has been fixed on his experimental music and sound-art project as Scant Intone. Currently living in Montreal, he is working on upcoming solo and collaborative works as well as coordinating projects for both Panospria and Psychonavigation Records. cyan ---- www.traktion.com (aka Corina MacDonald) Montreal based DJ, radio host and budding techno producer cyan was born and raised in the western provinces of Canada. In 1994 while living in Scotland she she was introduced to the dj culture associated with electronic dance music and was inspired to begin exploring the art of djing. When she returned to Canada, she decided that Montreal would be an ideal city to set her roots down and start exploring this approach to music. DJ culture was not a foreign concept to her and it was a logical extension of her ongoing work in community radio, which began in 1990 in Calgary and continued in Montreal from 1996 on. She now co-hosts CKUT FM^s Modular Systems: an electronic music magazine program. Her sound can best be described as layered raw & funky, dense & deep techno rhythms, influenced by the techno and house sounds of Detroit. cyan can be found regularly playing at various venues in and around Montreal, and has played alongside such artists as naw, noah pred, grannyark and lynne t. She has recently released her 6th independently produced DJ mix called The Gravity Protocol, which has been received in a very positive light by reviewers and techno fans alike. She is hard at work in the studio concocting her own variation on electronic dance music. cyan is involved in the phoniq collective, where she co-curates and organizes independent electronic music events featuring local producers and visual artists, and can be seen regularly at these events working the wheels of steel. From Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2004 23:04:02 +0200 From: Murat Gunes <xxxxxx@xxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] force inc? // Koner/MP/Ritonel? To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=iso-8859-9 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Here's the mail Szepanski had sent to the list in the midst of the first wave of discussion/rumors about the state of Force Inc. On Wed, 17 Mar 2004 14:16:37 +0100, Achim Szepanski <xx@xxxxx-xxx.xxx> wrote: > hi > > new releases in may/ june > > BIZZ CIRCUITS-play-INTIFADA-OFFSPRING > > CD + DVD + DLP > > > ---------------------------------------------- > > > THOMAS KÖNER NUUK > > CD + DVD > > ------------------------------------------------- > > > THOMAS KÖNER BANLIEUE DU VIDE > > CD + DVD > > ---------------------------------------------------- > > CLICKS & CUTS 4 > > CD& DLP > > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > > > soon > > > SOUNDCULTURES > > book (english translation) m. From Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2004 16:12:43 -0400 From: john hudak <xxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: rocks role | hudak remixes | download To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Message-id: <p06020408bcf8b66d677c@[192.168.0.100]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_4EW3iozTquN1wnWhmnYCAg)" --Boundary_(ID_4EW3iozTquN1wnWhmnYCAg) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT hello folks! two remixes by john hudak, http://homepage.mac.com/johnhudak/FileSharing1.html from Rock's Remix, 15 June 2004, 6-8pm, a program with participating artists of Rock's Role (After Ryoanji) performing their own re-mixes of this unique sound exhibition. The show closes 26 June 2004: http://www.artingeneral.org/aig/exhibitions/main_gallery.html best future, john -- john hudak xxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx http://www.johnhudak.net --Boundary_(ID_4EW3iozTquN1wnWhmnYCAg)-- From Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2004 22:30:52 -0400 From: vze26m98 <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [test] ignore, please To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx@xx.xxx.xxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT ignore me. 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SamForce first album, La Société de l'Esprit is free download on http://www.angstprod.com - 13 electro expriment tracks. - 2 formats available : Ogg (80 Mo) and CD Audio image (550 Mo). http://www.angstprod.com/Label SamForce - La Société de l'Esprit HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA |*\/*| USE TRANSLATOR FOR THE FORUM _________________________________________________________________ Bloquez les fenêtres pop-up, c'est gratuit ! http://toolbar.msn.fr From Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2004 18:37:31 +0000 From: xx cccc <xxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA To: xxxxxxxxxx_xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx, xxx-x@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx, xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx, xxxxxxxxxx_xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx, xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx, xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx, xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx Message-id: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Hi ! 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From Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 02:00:53 +0200 From: derek holzer <xxxxx@x-x.xxx> Subject: umatic.nl weblabel release + news To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxx@x-x.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT UMATIC.NL UPDATE ------ June 21 2004 http://www.umatic.nl/ ---------------------------------------------- Weblabel Release ----UMA01_MOIRA [http://umatic.nl/label.html] ---------------------------------------------- WEBLABEL RELEASE: UMA01_MOIRA ----Live-recordings from ImprovSession [March 5 2004, Moira, NL] ----Featuring: 87Central [US/NL], Bas van Koolwijk [NL], ----Christian Toonk [NL] & Yannick Dauby [FR] The first release from the umatic label are two live performances of improvised music originated from umatic‘s first event in march 2004. The event consisted of several audio-visual performances based on fresh collaborations between umatic members and invited artists. http://umatic.nl/label.html ---------------------------------------------- Other Current Umatic Activities [1] Impakt Event [w/ Lucky Kitchen a.o.] ----BAK, Utrecht, NL - 18 June - 4 July [2] Max/MSP/Jitter Video Workshop ----Umatic studio, Utrecht, NL - 3 - 4 July [3] Garage Festival ----Strahlsund, DE - 23 July - 12 Aug ----Feedback Performance: 5 August ---------------------------------------------- [1] IMPAKT EVENT INSTALLATION + PERFORMANCE ----18 June - 4 July, 2004 ----BAK, basis voor actuele kunst, Lange Nieuwstraat 4, Utrecht, NL Umatic were invited by the Impakt Festival to collaborate with Aeron & Alejandra/Lucky Kitchen for an exhibition in the BAK Gallery in Utrecht on the theme of urbanism. An installation and a performance were the result. ----Performance "Psychonavigators"---- Working with field recordings, instrumental fragments and found maps, Derek Holzer, Christian Toonk and Bas van Koolwijk created a lush audiovisual environment for the opening of the exhibition, 18 June 2004. Samples from this performance can be heard here: http://umatic.nl/mp3/umatic-psychonavigators.mp3 [23min42sec, 27.9Mb] ----Installation "Urban[ism]"---- As people travel through space, points between destination are often neglected. In their multi-channel audio and video installation, Umatic members Ryan Parteka, Bas van Koolwijk and Christian Toonk have transferred this in-between volume of the urban space to the gallery space. Two projectors and a four channel sound system capture and represent urban space for one to consider what lies in-between. http://www.impakt.nl/ ---------------------------------------------- [2] MAX/MSP/JITTER VIDEO WORKSHOP - BAS VAN KOOLWIJK AND RYAN PARTEKA ----3 - 4 July, 2004 ----Umatic studio, Utrecht, NL ----Instructors: Bas van Koolwijk, Ryan Parteka 'An introduction to real time video applications with Max/MSP/Jitter' Bring your own laptop w/ Mac OS 9/X or Windows XP. Contact: xxx@xxxxxx.xx for more details. Fee: € 65 ---------------------------------------------- [3] GARAGE FESTIVAL ----23 July - 12 August, 2004 ----Feedback Performances 5 August, 2004 ----Strahlsund, DE Umatic has been invited to take part in the Garage Festival 2004 'White box - Black Cube'. On the 5th of August, Umatic artists Christian Toonk and Bas van Koolwijk will give live performances based on acoustic and electronic feedback systems. Also during the Garage Festival, Derek Holzer and Sara Kolster will work on the two works in progress, Soundscape_FM [w/ Yannick Dauby] and PANDev [w/ support from STEIM], which will be presented in the beginning of August. http://www.garage-g.de/ http://www.umatic.nl/projects.html ---------------------------------------------- Umatic.nl are: Bas van Koolwijk Christian Toonk Derek Holzer Ryan Parteka Sara Kolster http://www.umatic.nl/ -- derek holzer ::: http://www.umatic.nl ---Oblique Strategy # 181: "What would your closest friend do?" From Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 02:04:55 +0200 From: derek holzer <xxxxx@x-x.xxx> Subject: umatic.nl weblabel release + news .........[apologies if duplicate!] To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@x-x.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT UMATIC.NL UPDATE ------ June 21 2004 http://www.umatic.nl/ ---------------------------------------------- Weblabel Release ----UMA01_MOIRA [http://umatic.nl/label.html] ---------------------------------------------- WEBLABEL RELEASE: UMA01_MOIRA ----Live-recordings from ImprovSession [March 5 2004, Moira, NL] ----Featuring: 87Central [US/NL], Bas van Koolwijk [NL], ----Christian Toonk [NL] & Yannick Dauby [FR] The first release from the umatic label are two live performances of improvised music originated from umatic‘s first event in march 2004. The event consisted of several audio-visual performances based on fresh collaborations between umatic members and invited artists. http://umatic.nl/label.html ---------------------------------------------- Other Current Umatic Activities [1] Impakt Event [w/ Lucky Kitchen a.o.] ----BAK, Utrecht, NL - 18 June - 4 July [2] Max/MSP/Jitter Video Workshop ----Umatic studio, Utrecht, NL - 3 - 4 July [3] Garage Festival ----Strahlsund, DE - 23 July - 12 Aug ----Feedback Performance: 5 August ---------------------------------------------- [1] IMPAKT EVENT INSTALLATION + PERFORMANCE ----18 June - 4 July, 2004 ----BAK, basis voor actuele kunst, Lange Nieuwstraat 4, Utrecht, NL Umatic were invited by the Impakt Festival to collaborate with Aeron & Alejandra/Lucky Kitchen for an exhibition in the BAK Gallery in Utrecht on the theme of urbanism. An installation and a performance were the result. ----Performance "Psychonavigators"---- Working with field recordings, instrumental fragments and found maps, Derek Holzer, Christian Toonk and Bas van Koolwijk created a lush audiovisual environment for the opening of the exhibition, 18 June 2004. Samples from this performance can be heard here: http://umatic.nl/mp3/umatic-psychonavigators.mp3 [23min42sec, 27.9Mb] ----Installation "Urban[ism]"---- As people travel through space, points between destination are often neglected. In their multi-channel audio and video installation, Umatic members Ryan Parteka, Bas van Koolwijk and Christian Toonk have transferred this in-between volume of the urban space to the gallery space. Two projectors and a four channel sound system capture and represent urban space for one to consider what lies in-between. http://www.impakt.nl/ ---------------------------------------------- [2] MAX/MSP/JITTER VIDEO WORKSHOP - BAS VAN KOOLWIJK AND RYAN PARTEKA ----3 - 4 July, 2004 ----Umatic studio, Utrecht, NL ----Instructors: Bas van Koolwijk, Ryan Parteka 'An introduction to real time video applications with Max/MSP/Jitter' Bring your own laptop w/ Mac OS 9/X or Windows XP. Contact: xxx@xxxxxx.xx for more details. Fee: € 65 ---------------------------------------------- [3] GARAGE FESTIVAL ----23 July - 12 August, 2004 ----Feedback Performances 5 August, 2004 ----Strahlsund, DE Umatic has been invited to take part in the Garage Festival 2004 'White box - Black Cube'. On the 5th of August, Umatic artists Christian Toonk and Bas van Koolwijk will give live performances based on acoustic and electronic feedback systems. Also during the Garage Festival, Derek Holzer and Sara Kolster will work on the two works in progress, Soundscape_FM [w/ Yannick Dauby] and PANDev [w/ support from STEIM], which will be presented in the beginning of August. http://www.garage-g.de/ http://www.umatic.nl/projects.html ---------------------------------------------- Umatic.nl are: Bas van Koolwijk Christian Toonk Derek Holzer Ryan Parteka Sara Kolster http://www.umatic.nl/ -- derek holzer ::: http://www.umatic.nl ---Oblique Strategy # 181: "What would your closest friend do?" From Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 05:38:28 -0500 From: john kannenberg <xxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: New release at AUX-IN : john kannenberg To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx, xxxxxxxxx-xxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx Message-id: <p06002000bcfc68d20af9@[209.86.113.221]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Stasisfield announces the latest addition to our live performance sublabel AUX-IN: [ http://www.stasisfield.com/aux-in/ ] ------------------------------------------ SFA-005: Greatest Hits Live: Live on the Streets of Neon Tour / The Tank, NYC / July 17, 1983 john kannenberg ------------------------------------------ Stasisfield founder john kannenberg digs deep into the vaults to present this collection of his so-called "greatest hits", featuring live interpretations of tracks from three recent releases on the Stasisfield, Topscore and Retinascan labels. This set of solo laptop electronics with manipulated shortwave signals was performed at The Tank in New York City's Hell's Kitchen during the Placard Festival 2003 NYC edition. Enjoy the music, as well as the latest in an increasingly absurd series of live album packaging, at: [ http://www.stasisfield.com/aux-in/sfa-005.html ] ------------------------------------------ Also, check out new additions and the 2-for-1 sale in the Stasisfield shop - now until July 15: [ http://www.stasisfield.com/cds/ ] ------------------------------------------ As always, thanks for listening. >> john kannenberg [ http://www.stasisfield.com ] [ http://www.whistlingpariah.com ] -- OUT NOW. -- on Grain of Sound > "indeterminate topography" : 6 new digital image compositions in the premiere issue of Sonic Scope Quarterly, a visual arts magazine [ http://www.grainofsound.com/gos_v3/news.htm ] -- on Retinascan > Gelidus : A sonic interpretation of extreme cold in six parts [ http://www.retinascan.de/compactdiscs/fcd35.htm ] From Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 15:35:38 +0200 From: xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx Subject: [ot] otolab> audiovisual projects 2001-2004 To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BCFCB0CA.533D%xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT otolab audiovisual projects edited by Lucrezia Cippitelli On July 1st, 2004, the Otolab exhibition will open at the MLAC, Laboratory/Museum for Contemporary Art of the "La Sapienza" University in Rome, with Lucrezia Cippitelli as curatrix. In the halls of the Museum/Laboratory, an itinerary which illustrates the A/V projects realized by Otolab over the period 2001-2004 will be on display. Interactive exhibits, made up of tools for the production of sounds and images developed by the Otolab collective and used in the course of its live performances, will host the Millepiani, P.U.L.P. (shown at Contacteurope Milan) and Quartetto.swf; the latter was the winner of the Italian Live Media Contest 2002 as well as Netmage 03. An immersive space will allow visitors to experience recordings of the following live media projects: Duetto.swf, (previously shown at Peam in Pescara, Cartoombria in Perugia, ImproVisual at the Prague Biennial, Carthusia in Siena), Polystatic (Netmage 04), Stare Mesto (ImproVisual, Prague Biennial) and Ten (reelaboration of work presented at the Festival des arts électroniques, Bruxelles) The third section of the exhibition will host the screening of a selection of multimedia clips, some unreleased and others which were previously shown at a number of festivals (Videominuto 2003 in Prato, Batofar in Paris, 2003 Prague Biennial, Moov03 Media Art Festival in New York, Merciless Film Series in New York). Visitors of this section will also be able to see Transizionilente, the audiovisual opus developed for Tantratheta: the installation has been designed for being experienced inside Pathfinder, a sensory deprivation tank commonly used as a complement to relaxation techniques. Finally, the last section will display the most significant graphic exhibits produced by Otolab. For the opening night of the exhibition, Otolab will present a live set of its most recent audiovisual performance Syn3_Africa, which will take place at 7:30 pm in the MLAC area. The exhibition is part of MLAC's Laboratory program, and has been partly financed by Regione Lazio for researching "Application of novel multimedial technologies in contemporary art", as part of the experimental Stage/Master courses in Critical Curating and Museum Installation, promoted by the Museum Director Simonetta Lux and produced by the MLAC curator Domenico Scudero. Opening July 1st 2004, 7:30 pm live media performance: Syn_africa MLAC, Museo Laboratorio di Arte Contemporanea. Università di Roma "La Sapienza" Piazzale Aldo Moro 5, Roma. from July 1st to July 31st, 2004 Mon-Fri 10:00 am - 6:30 pm http://www.luxflux.net/museolab/press.htm Press: Tatiana Giovannetti http://www.otolab.net http://www.otolab.net/tunez/html From Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 11:12:19 -0400 From: Mike Hansen <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: CKLN FM's Whynot Jazz playlist for June 9, 2004 To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v553) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT > > Dear Artist and Label > > Welcome to the radio program Whynot Jazz on Toronto's CKLN FM 88.1. > Heard Every Wednesday Morning from 7am-11am est, 1pm thru most of > Europe and noon in the UK. Available around the world at: > > www.ckln.fm > > Here is the playlist from the last Whynot Jazz Program. Please note > that radio program, hosted by Mike Hansen, takes an outside > examination of new improvised and jazz musics. Whynotjazz is one of > the very few voices for progessive new music heard in Toronto or > around the world. > > Why Not? > 2004/06/09 > > > Artist > Song Title > Album Title > Label > > > > Steve Lacy > solo performance > Guelph Jazz festival > roughidea > > > > Atomic/School Days > Dogdays > Nuclear Assembly Hall > Okka Disc > > > > Trio Derome/Guibeault/Tanguay > Verone > 10 compostions de Jean Derome > Ambience Magnestiques > > > > Steve Dalchinsky/Frederico Ughi > We Play Just LikeDominos > I Thought It Was The End ... > 577 Records > > > > Hasp > Gossip and Rumour > Mix Your Languages > Ramboy > > > > Steve Lacy > Ducks > Trio Live > New Tone > > > > Arnt Jurgensen/Guy Le Blanc > Slide > live at New Works Studio > independent > > > > Ernesto Rodrigues > E UR > Cesura > Creative Sources > > > > Ig Henneman String Quartet > Vivo Son > Piazza Pia > Wig > > > > Wolfgang Mitterer > Radio Fractual/Beat Music pt 3 > Radio Fractual/Beat Music > Hat hut > > > > Mike Hansen > Waltz For Debbie(solo) > The Bill Evans Project > independent > > > > Jason Kuhn > Miramar part 2 > Miramar > Sirrecords > > > > Frode Gjerstad/Lasse Marhaug > Improvisation no.5 > Tou > FMR Records > > > > Jeck/Lang/Lacy > dw 1.2 remix 7.4 > Trio 3 New Jazz Meeting > Hathut > > > > Les Poules > Les Glaneuses > Prairie Orange > Ambiance Magnetiques > > > > Nick fraser/Justin Haynes > Eating Disorders in Action > Are Faking It > independent > > > > Nick Fraser/Justin Haynes > This Statement is False/Beachball Volleyball > Are Faking It > independent > > > > Mats Gustafsson > Retreat > Windows > Blue Chopsticks > > > > Thelonious Monk > Evidence > Big Band and Quartet > CBS > > > > Dalachinsky/Ughi > It's Been Nothing Since ... > I Thought It Was The End Of The > 577 Records > > > > Your support is necessary in keeping this voice for the music current. > Please feel free to forward music to the address below. Thanks again > for your support. Keep Listening > > Thanks > Mike > > > Mike Hansen > CKLN FM 88.1 > Whynot Jazz Program > 79 Benson Ave. > Toronto,On > Canada > M6G 2H7 > xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx > > From Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 14:56:39 -0500 From: Juanjose <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx.xx> Subject: test To: "[microsound]" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <000301c457c9$de55bb60$xxxxxxxx@xxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_CyhDMYg+FSIoz2gLUCtesw)" --Boundary_(ID_CyhDMYg+FSIoz2gLUCtesw) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT ok --Boundary_(ID_CyhDMYg+FSIoz2gLUCtesw)-- From Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 15:01:01 -0500 From: Juanjose <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx.xx> Subject: ::radicaltechgnology:: To: "[microsound]" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <000f01c457ca$7db6d180$xxxxxxxx@xxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_2F1exukJy23NLMgZiE6XLw)" --Boundary_(ID_2F1exukJy23NLMgZiE6XLw) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT RADICALTECHNOLOGY Is an experimental project that it looks for develop an investigation about electronic means and their mechanisms of representation. taking electronic remainders and the errors produced in the Digital System Processing. Click here: http://mx.geocities.com/justburnagain/ Juanjose Rivas Zúñiga Radical technology video || noise || xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx.xx RADICALTECHNOLOGY Es un proyecto experimental que busca desarrollar una investigación dentro de los medios electrónicos y sus mecanismos de representación tomando como materia prima los residuos electrónicos y los errores producidos dentro del sistema de procesamiento digital. Haz clic aquí: http://mx.geocities.com/justburnagain/ Juanjose Rivas Zúñiga Radical technology video || noise || xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx.xx --Boundary_(ID_2F1exukJy23NLMgZiE6XLw)-- From Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2004 03:27:29 +0000 From: twonky yup <xxx_xxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: wobbly To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Message-id: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT From: Boniato <xxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> To: xxx_xxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx Subject: Boniato-004: Wobbly, Blevin Blectum, Sutekh and People Like Us From Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 18:05:28 -0400 Wobbly "Multiple Peady" [Boniato-004] 12-inch EP (45 RPM) Release From Date: June 21, 2004 (USA) A1. "General Peady" (Wobbly) A2. "Chicken Jiggler Peady" (Blevin Blectum) B1. "Clawing Your Eyes Out Down To Your Peady" (Sutekh) B2. "Tremble Peady" (People Like Us) "Multiple Peady", a set of four remixes of two tracks from Wobbly's "Playlist" EP, resulting in a bizarre, but coherent suite of music for the uh dance floor. Wobbly's own "General Peady" is actually the Original Peady, a strict-tempo hop, stitching tunes from angry pieces. Blevin Blectum's "Chicken Jiggler Peady" atomizes the Peady into a writhing, mysterious mass, less Chicken than Snake. Sutekh's "Clawing Your Eyes Out Down To Your Peady" is blazing, full-throttle, swing-time, 12-inch specific, while People Like Us' "Tremble Peady" peels the sound-set away to reveal a bafflingly lovely arrangement of the original, country/gospel tune. The "Multiple Peady" EP is pressed on green vinyl in an edition of 440 and packaged in a generic, bodega-style, center-die-cut, chipboard cover and sealed in a durable, poly-bag. Please refer to your stylus manufacturer's specifications in order to extract the full dynamic range from the grooves. Wobbly is San Francisco resident Lon Leidecker. Wobbly releases include "Wild Why" for Tigerbeat6, "Live 99>00" for Phthalo, "Regards" for Alku, and "Playlist" for Illegal Art. Ongoing studio and live projects involve collaborations with Matmos, People Like Us, Thomas Dimuzio, and, as keyboardist for the audio/video band SAGAN, with fellow members J Lesser, Blevin Blectum, and Ryan Junell. http://boniato.net http://forcedexposure.com/labels/boniato.html _________________________________________________________________ MSN 9 Dial-up Internet Access fights spam and pop-ups – now 3 months FREE! http://join.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200361ave/direct/01/ From Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2004 00:43:12 -0500 From: Juanjose <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx.xx> Subject: test= Ignore me. To: "[microsound]" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <000d01c4581b$cf861a10$xxxxxxxx@xxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_+KyjTFQbZyIyIBFz1LbmZg)" --Boundary_(ID_+KyjTFQbZyIyIBFz1LbmZg) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sorry I have some problems with my mail --Boundary_(ID_+KyjTFQbZyIyIBFz1LbmZg)-- From Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 21:51:24 +0200 From: bastien remion <xxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xx> Subject: Playlist "electrons libres-Futur (re)mix" To: Forum <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Hello everybody all the microsounder's...Como allez-vous??? WELCOME TO THE ELECTRONS LIBRES AND FUTURE (re)<MIX NEWSLETTER -----------------------------------ELECTRONS----------------- ---------------LIBRES------------------------------------ --------------------POWERPLAY ----------------------------------- No Emission!!! See ya In July for the "Summer Complexity party time" :-) -------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------FUTURE (re)MIX------------------ +++++++++-----13h/16h---------------21/06/04******-----+-+-+++- ------------------------------------------- Check it the june playlist very soon @ http://www.radiobeton.com Part1....Is Back In time...It's THE BRAIN #28 All playlist : http://lautre.thebrain.net Part2: MISS KITTIN ON THE WAY 1-Detroit Grand Pubahs feat Miss Kittin: Cash Without working (Jive) -Album "Funk all y'all" 2-Antonelli Electr with Miss Kittin: The Vogue (Italic, La Baleine) -V/A "Dancer" 3-Golden Boy with Miss Kittin: Rippin Kittin [Elle Allien remix] (Ladomat, Labels) -Rippin Kittin ep 4-Miss Kittin & The Hacker: You & Us (Gigolo) -Album "1st album" 5-Miss Kittin: Professional Distorsion [Modelselektor remix] (Nobody'z bizness, Labels) -Professional distorsion ep 6-Max de Warderer: Luster (Accidental, Discograph) -Album "Where I am Today" 7-Rhthm Maker: Cityciticism (Level records 01) -Quartett ep (with Andy Vaz...) http://www.level-records.com 8-Rene Breitbarth:Zaq (Treibstoff records) -Album "Solar" http://www.treibstoff.org 9-Luomo: Vocalcity 1 market (Force Tracks) -Vocalcity 1 market ep 10-Aqua Bassino: Baby C'mon (F.com, Pias) -Beats'n'bobs ep 11-Luke Vibert: Let's dance and freak (Rephlex, La Baleine) -Ep "let's dance and freak" 12-Citizens feat. Girlzklub: Get the fuck out [wegner remix] (Lebensfreude 03) -Get the fuck out & remixes ep http://www.lebensfreude-berlin.de 13-Tomas Andersson: 2002-05-07 (Bpitch control) -Minimal Mama ep 14-Seek & Destroy:Socializing (Lebensfreude records) -V/A "Lebensfreude" 15-Mr Oizo:1$44 (F.com) -Stunt ep 16-Umod [Aka Domu] : Tromboline (Sonar Kollectiv, Discograph) -Album "Enter the Umod" http://www.dom-uniqueproductions.co.uk 17-Marcos Valle:Valeu [4hero remix] (Fabric, Pias) -V/A "FabricLive 15" 18-Marcos Valle: Parabens + Quarteto Em Cy: Tudo que Voce podia ser (Ether records) -V/A "Gilles Peterson In Brazil-Classico & Da hora" 19-Theo Parrish: Sawala Sayala (Sound Signature) -Ep "I can't take it" 20-Throbbing Gristle: hot on the heels of love [Ratcliffe remix] (Novamute, Labels) -Album remix "Mutant TG" 21-Aux 88: Bytes (430 west records) -ep "Bytes" Heee ya.... Happyness all and "see the Sun" Bye!!! ----------------------------***--//---]]]-[------------------- Radio Béton 93.6/electrons libres 17h-18h /The Brain13h-14h /Future (re)Mix monday 14h-15h30 90 avenue Maginot 37100 Tours tèl:0247510383 http://www.radiobeton.com From Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2004 02:39:57 -0700 From: Kim Cascone <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: TWiki site To: microsound_list <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BCFC517E.10D24%xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT does anyone have server space where we can set up a TWiki server for the microsound list? please contact me offline... danke! KIM PS greetings from Mons.BE! From Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2004 11:44:32 +0000 From: Onda Sonora Radio <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Contents Onda Sonora 23-06-04 To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Message-id: <xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT www.ondasonoraradio.com Radio Círculo De Bellas Artes. Miércoles. 15:00-16:00. 100.4 Fm www.circulobellasartes.com Radio Autònoma. Martes-Jueves-Sabado. 18:00-19:00 www.uam.es/radio Radio Enlace. Martes. 19:00-20:00. 107.5 Fm. Madrid Contenidos Onda Sonora (Radio Sesiones Experimentales) 23-06-04 01. MAX EASTLEY / DAVID TOOP Track: Eyelash Turned Inwards Album: Haunted Weather / Doll Creature Label: Staubgold / Bip-hop Corte incluido en el excelente doble cd, editado por Staubgold, que acompaña al ultimo libro de David Toop y proveniente de la tercera colaboracion en disco entre ambos compositores britanicos que acaba de publicar Bip-hop 02. COTI Track: Pluckp Album: Lido / Lato Label: Poeta Negra Nos trasladamos a las oficinas del sello griego Poeta Negra en Salonica con el cuarto disco del productor y compositor griego Coti. Lo que va a sonar es un corte de la primera parte de este doble cd, más aislacionista e inquietante 03. COTI Track: Neige P. Album: Lido / Lato Label: Poeta Negra Uno de los cortes del excelente segundo cd de Coti, Lato, más melódico y compacto que su parte complementaria, Lido 04. APOSTOLOS LOUFOPOULOS Track: Night Pulses Album: Sonicity Label: Sonicity Otro doble disco, documenta la actividad de los estudios de la City Universtity de Londres en los ultimos dos años. El corte que va a sonar corresponde al griego Apostolos Loufopoulos, ganador de varios premios en el campo de la composición electroacustica 05. AMBROSE SEDDON Track: Tambo Album: Sonicity Label: Expanding De el griego Apostolus Loufopoulos al britanico Ambrose Seddon que empezo trabajando en proyectos de rock y electronica y más tarde empezo a dedicarse a la composicon acusmática. Esto es un estudio de la Tamburina incluido tambien en el doble cd Sonicity, editado por la City University de Londres 06. HERVE BOGHOSSIAN Track: Mouvement Aerion Album: Mouvements Label: Raster-noton / Raster Post Ultimo trabajo de este interesante artista que reside y trabaja en Paris. Esto es Mouvement, una obra que publica el sello aleman Raster-noton 07. MINIMALISTIC SWEDEN Track: Standard Klickmusik Album: Standard Klickmusik Label: Mitek Notable colaboracion entre 4 artistas de la ciudad de Hasslehölml, al sur de Suecia, el ya reputado Andreas Tilliander, el más desconocido pero igual de interesante Stefan Tho, aka Folie, y dos miembros de Pfeffenbauer 08. NAUTICAL ALMANAC Track: Exterior Beaten Album: Rooting For The Microbes Label: Load Excelente ultimo trabajo de los americanos Nautical Almanac, en el cual se han rodeado de colaboradores y en el que no han utilizado electiricidad ni ordenadores, trabajando con instrumentos caseros creados por ellos mismos 09. NAUTICAL ALMANAC Track: It`s Better tell Secrets Album: Six Residua Label: Heresee Anterior trabajo de Nautical Almanac, un proyecto que comenzo en Michigan, pero que tuvo que trasladarse a Chicago por problemas con la justicia, y de ahí a Baltimore, donde los componentes de Nautical Almanac han establecido su nueva base que utilizan como sala para sus conciertos y como base para su propio sello Heresee, en donde publicaron Cisum 10. ERGO PHIZMIZ AND HIS ORCHESTRA Track: Come to Debbie Album: ergo phizmiz and his orchestra plays aphex twin Label: Murkow Relecturas de 9 temas clásicos de Aphex Twin que este britanico de 22 años ha editado a traves de su propia plataforma Murkow. Su música, poco definible, tiene influencias de artistas como Pascal Comelade o Los Residents entre otros. El tema que va a sonar es una version del Come To Daddy de Aphex Twin, en este caso Come To Debbie 11. PORN SWORD TOBACCO Track: Riot Control / Charlie Chaplin Album: Porn Sword Tobacco Label: City Centre Offices Esta semana nos despedimos desde el sello aleman City Centre Ofices con uno de los mejores trabajos que han editado hasta la fecha, se trata de Porn Sword Tobacco, proyecto proveniente de Suecia con temas preciosos y con influencias de Harold Budd, Erik Satie o Brian Eno, entre otros English Version Contents Onda Sonora (Experimental Radio Sessions) 23-06-04 01. MAX EASTLEY / DAVID TOOP Track: Eyelash Turned Inwards Album: Haunted Weather / Doll Creature Label: Staubgold / Bip-hop Track from the double cd enclosed in David Toop’s last book “Haunted Weather”. It comes from the recent third collaboration between both British composers, “Doll Creatures” 02. COTI Track: Pluckp Album: Lido / Lato Label: Poeta Negra From Poeta Negra label offices in Thessalonika, the fourth album of Greek composer and music productor Coti. A double cd with two complementary parts: “Lido...” 03. COTI Track: Neige P. Album: Lido / Lato Label: Poeta Negra .... and “Lato”. The first more abstract and this one going deeper into melodies 04. APOSTOLOS LOUFOPOULOS Track: Night Pulses Album: Sonicity Label: Sonicity Sonicity” is another double disc, documenting the activities of the City University studios in London. Apostolos Loufopoulos is a Greek composer awarded in the field of electroacoustic composition 05. AMBROSE SEDDON Track: Tambo Album: Sonicity Label: Expanding From Apostolos Loufopoulos to Ambrose Sedon, who began working with rock and electronica and has become one of the leading promises of acousmatic composition in the United Kingdom, along with Canadian Ian Stewart 06. HERVE BOGHOSSIAN Track: Mouvement Aerion Album: Mouvements Label: Raster-noton / Raster Post Last work by Herve Boghossian, an artist who lives and works from Paris. Guitar composed tracks later re-worked by computer-based effects 07. MINIMALISTIC SWEDEN Track: Standard Klickmusik Album: Standard Klickmusik Label: Mitek Last edition of Swedish Mitek label. A collaboration between four Hasslehölm artists: Andreas Tilliander, Stefan Thor, aka Folie, and the two members of Pfeffenbauer -the Sweddish minimalistic activists 08. NAUTICAL ALMANAC Track: Exterior Beaten Album: Rooting For The Microbes Label: Load Last work by Nautical Almanac in the Load label, surrounded by some collaborators and played without electricity or computers, working with homemade instruments created by themselves speially for the occasion 09. NAUTICAL ALMANAC Track: It`s Better tell Secrets Album: Six Residua Label: Heresee This is Nautical Almanac's previous work, a project that was born in Michigan, moved to Chicago for legal problems and then to Baltimore, Maryland, where they have established themselves, using their attic as a concert room for their live shows and creating their own Heresee label 10. ERGO PHIZMIZ AND HIS ORCHESTRA Track: Come to Debbie Album: ergo phizmiz and his orchestra plays aphex twin Label: Murkow One of the re-workings between the nine classic Aphex Twin tracks that this young British (22), Ergo Phizmiz, has edited through his platform Murkow 11. PORN SWORD TOBACCO Track: Riot Control / Charlie Chaplin Album: Porn Sword Tobacco Label: City Centre Offices Between the best works released in City Centre Offices, the album by this Sweddish project called Porn Sword Tobacco Nota: Este correo no ha sido solicitado, pero hemos considerado que te podría interesar. 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THE MARKETPLACE http://sonomu.net/shops/ Buy directly from our label members! Label members include Hungry Hill, Benbecula, Lo Recordings, Uncharted Audio, Pickled Egg, Radiotone, Peter I'm Flying, Moof, Trace Recordings and loads more (plus more to come). The sonomu marketplace enables small labels to manage their own shops via our secure credit card platform. Go buy! http://sonomu.net/shops/ And if you're a label and interested in joining the sonomu.net network please mail xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx or use the feedback form found on the site. thanks susanna From Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2004 16:02:18 +0200 From: cjitter <xxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx> Subject: KLANGMASCHINE - conexi=?ISO-8859-1?B?8w==?=n Chile @ Morpheus To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BCFE088A.C632%xxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT KLANGMASCHINE - conexión Chile @ Morpheus Club Morpheus Sábado 26 de Junio 2004 - de 22:00 a 3:00 h c / La Palma, 31 (Madrid) - Metro Tribunal Sala The Missión Cleind (Planta de abajo) Entrada 4 € sin consumición Organiza: Asociación CRC y F_ON (p) Colabora: Rotor y Morpheus +ifno: http://www.ccapitalia.net/crc  Uran (Audio Session)  Uran, natural de barcelona actualmente afincada en Madrid, es una apasionada coleccionista de música electrónica desde hace muchos años, y eso se refleja en la fina selección de temas de sus sesiones, un cocktail muy personal y original de "indietrónica", IDM, y las nuevas tendencias vanguardistas de la música digital. Entre sus apariciones como dj cabe destacar sus sesiones en After-Arco 2003, en Oui, Less y en Experimentaclub03.  Receptor (Live)  Jorge Cortés viene de Santiago de Chile, desde donde dirige el sello de música electrónica Ojo de Apolo. Desde 1997 hasta el 2002 trabajó como Cáncer, desarrollando un cruce entre la intimación y sonidos pulsantes, acompañado de paisajes granulares. Destacar su ultimo trabajo, CD compartido con Ok Suitcase, editado en el sello portugués Crónica Electrónica, asà como sus actuaciones en el Goethe Institut (Chile), Hoerbar (Hamburgo) y el Museo de Ciencias Naturales de Buenos Aires.   Daoun | Producciones Nebula - Morpheus (Dj set)  Sus comienzos se remontan en esto de la música a mediados de los 80 cuando se ve influenciado por la electrónica mas pop.... Entre una cosa y otra empezó a maquinar con una MC 505 y un SP 808 [experimentar y componer músicas que sean propias era su objetivo], se reúne con un amigo y músico, Juan Alberto Navazo y llevan a cabo un proyecto llamado Fromm... Hoy dÃa sigue activo con trabajos en los que la mezcla de electro atmosférico con graves atronadores... En el 02-03 llevan a cabo Morpheus y lo enfocan al minimal-minimalhouse y electro... Actualmente Daoun forma parte de Producciones Nebula junto a Javier Olmos, siendo residente viernes y sábados noche en Morpheus [club con entrada gratuita de primera hora en Mission Cleimd].      From Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2004 10:34:19 -0400 From: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx Subject: [ot promotional] upcoming shows northeast usa To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Cc: "will s." <xxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <005501c45866$0181aa80$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx.xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_6thN5e2LZgVPrV65oZEh0A)" --Boundary_(ID_6thN5e2LZgVPrV65oZEh0A) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT ????: ????? ???? 2oo4 upcoming shows will soderberg 26 june 2oo4 saturday nom d'artiste, boston, ma -w/kites, prurient, nmperign, white cocaine 27 june 2oo4 sunday strange maine, portland, me -w/idm theft able 28 june 2oo4 monday as220, providence, ri -w/comorevi butterfly, chaos character, mr. slugg and the legion of doom 29 june 2oo4 tuesday flywheel, easthampton, ma -w/univark, massacre of the dead, king darves 3o june 2oo4 wednesday lucky cat, brooklyn, ny -w/astro-cusion, jeff arnal/daniel carter duo, this spy surfs 1-2 july 2oo4 friday-saturday nyc? [i am open for suggestions] 3 july 2oo4 saturday the red room at normals books and records, baltimore, md -w/(3 drummers) dan breen, bob wagner, and a mystery guest 4 july 2oo4 sunday garfield artworks, pittsburgh, pa -w/x-13, 8cylinder http://white-rose.net/shows.shtml (shows) http://www.existentialista.com/~uforika/ (mp3s) http://white-rose.net/sounds.html (catalog) "an eclectic individual, will soderberg, is part of an ever evolving collective of musicians and sound makers. playing under various guises and making lots of racket, he has been exploring the outer limits of sound and music for over a decade. on this night he will be using a laptop, guitar and various electronics to conjure up bone rattling sounds of ghosts in the rafters." "gnarly, crude-analog-electro, michigan style -- with occasional guitar/laptop entering the fold." the animal snatches the whip from its master and whips itself so as to become master, and does not know that all this is only a fantasy caused by a new knot in the master's whiplash ~kafka --Boundary_(ID_6thN5e2LZgVPrV65oZEh0A)-- From Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2004 15:16:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Aaron Ximm <xxxxx@xxxx.xxx> Subject: [EVENT][Fri June 25] Field Effects 19: Tape Take Two To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx@xxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Hey folks. Per a suggestion on this list, for this announcement, I'm trying a new strategy: the details of the performance can be found at the event's page; I'm not quoting the full release here; The URL is at the bottom of this message -- aaron ----------[ Quiet American presents at 964 Natoma ]-------------------- Field Effects 19: Tape Take Two Friday, June 25th ~ doors 8pm 964 Natoma, San Francisco, CA (USA) $6-10 requested sliding donation, no one turned away for lack of funds. ----> Event Description <---------------------------------------------- The Field Effects series showcase the use of found sound, found materials, and field recordings in media art, presented in a uniquely comfortable environment. For this show, we will listen to contemporary prepared compositions (otherwise known as 'tape music') from four American sound artists and composers. Three of the artists will be on hand to present and discuss their work in person. Field Effects 19 features work from composers: maggi payne http://www.mills.edu/music/mus_maggi.html phillip bimstein http://www.bimstein.com ellen band http://www.ellenband.com jen boyd Seating mostly on futons and our new flock of beanbags, to encourage comfortable deep listening. Drinks will be available on a donation- based honor system. With luck, someone will bake cookies. ----> Additional Info <----------------------------------------------- A full description of the artists and the work they will present: http://www.quietamerican.org/fe19.html About the series: http://www.fieldeffects.org This message is not for print distribution or advertising. This is a private event for friends, family and our community. Questions? Write xxxxx@xxxx.xxx From Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 14:19:46 +0100 From: Thanos Chrysakis <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] [EVENT][Fri June 25] Field Effects 19: Tape Take Two To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BCFF4202.1F1B%xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT on 6/22/04 11:16 PM, Aaron Ximm at xxxxx@xxxx.xxx wrote: > Hey folks. Per a suggestion on this list, for this announcement, I'm > trying a new strategy: the details of the performance can be found at > the event's page; I'm not quoting the full release here; The URL is at > the bottom of this message -- aaron congrats Aaron. We need more and more of these kind of intimate events! best regards Thanos From Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 07:23:18 +0200 From: philippe-petit <xxxxxxxx-xxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx> Subject: in case some of you live in bruxelles and want to listen to some guitar, minimal atmospheres... To: "xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>, ambient <xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>, "xxx_xxxxxxx_xxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx" <xxx_xxxxxxx_xxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>, "xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx" <xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>, idm - moderated <xxx-x@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>, "xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx" <xxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx>, annonces Wire <xxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: xxxxxxxx-xxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type=54455854; x-mac-creator=4D4F5353 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT in case some of you live in bruxelles and want to listen to some guitar, minimal atmospheres... 27. 06. 04 BiP_HOp Generation # 65 Bruxelles- RecyclArt ::: 18:00 to 22:00 Opak -1 + Foern + dj/xx@xxx-xxx.xxx would be nice to meet... all the best philippe http://www.bip-hop.com From Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 03:53:45 -0400 (EDT) From: Abflug <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx> Subject: [review] Karri O. - Kids Used to Dream of... To: xxxxxxxxxxxx_xxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx, xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx, xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx, xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx, xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx, xxx-x@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx, xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx, xxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx, xxxxxx_xx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx, xxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx, xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx, xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx, xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT The Chilean magazine Loop (www.loop.cl) has published its review of Karri O.'s 'Kids Used to Dream of Becoming Astronauts' online. Check out the full review in Spanish and a quick English translation at http://www.loop.cl/comentarios.asp?cod=79321051141149775. Karri O., 'Kids Used to Dream of Becoming Astronauts', Abflug 2004 "Karri Ojanen is the label manager of the Finnnish Abflug imprint which was founded in 2003. His music exposes genres such as electronica, techno and minimal house. His electronic facet drinks of waters of Autechre and the Warp sound which is exemplified in his first cut 'Before'; with its timbres through keyboard notes and fractured rhythm. 'One Finger, Two Feet' shows his minimal house face with a hypnotic groove. 'Subconscious dub' has powerful bassdrums whose rhythmical techno takes us to a trance mood. The final cut 'No more Mondays' has got a gorgeous melody line with its bells like keyboard notes." - Guillermo Escudero / Loop Abflug www.abflugrec.com electronic music and video arts ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca From Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 08:59:35 +0100 From: David Newman <xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx.xx> Subject: Mercedes Benz mp3 Mix Tape To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <008d01c458f8$09874450$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Mercedes Benz have released a free to download mp3 mix tape on their global car site :::: The tape includes tracks poerating across a number of electronic music genres - mostly idm & techno but there are elements & influences from microsound field to be heard :::: http://www.mercedes-benz.com/mixedtape The current selection includes a track from He Can Jog (Erik Schoster) & Terry Ubrien from www.audiobulb.com David Newman Audiobulb Records www.audiobulb.com From Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 13:51:30 +0200 From: The Expert <xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Mercedes Benz mp3 Mix Tape To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v618) Content-type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT great – now it's about time to forget all those worries about global players like Mercedes Benz: how they treat people, environment, and culture! as long as they put your track on a mix tape, the world can't be as sad as it seems ... .... what a laugh. and don't fool yourself with "reaching a different audience": as soon as MB gets feedback, future mixed tapes will be cleared of anything that doesn't appeal to those yuppies in their MB and SMART cars (incl. your own highly interesting releases). do you really think anyone chose those tracks because of their musical quality? it's because they're free (of charge), and that makes them a very cheap marketing tool to blind even the enlightened ones. please alter the creative commons-license a.s.a.p. to exclude those moneymoneymoneyheads from an evergrowing culture. shut the door. brave new world. the expert (worried) > Mercedes Benz have released a free to download mp3 mix tape on their > global > car site :::: > > The tape includes tracks poerating across a number of electronic music > genres - mostly idm & techno but there are elements & influences from > microsound field to be heard :::: > > http://www.mercedes-benz.com/mixedtape > > The current selection includes a track from He Can Jog (Erik Schoster) > & > Terry Ubrien from www.audiobulb.com > > David Newman > Audiobulb Records > www.audiobulb.com > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > From Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 13:02:23 +0100 From: David Newman <xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Mercedes Benz mp3 Mix Tape To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <001601c45919$f2d24ee0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT I was'nt aware that Mercedes Benz had a poor record in terms of people, environment and culture. Do you have any significant examples... or are you dealing in a generalisation? ----- Original Message ----- From: "The Expert" <xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: "microsound" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2004 12:51 PM Subject: Re: [microsound] Mercedes Benz mp3 Mix Tape great – now it's about time to forget all those worries about global players like Mercedes Benz: how they treat people, environment, and culture! as long as they put your track on a mix tape, the world can't be as sad as it seems ... .... what a laugh. and don't fool yourself with "reaching a different audience": as soon as MB gets feedback, future mixed tapes will be cleared of anything that doesn't appeal to those yuppies in their MB and SMART cars (incl. your own highly interesting releases). do you really think anyone chose those tracks because of their musical quality? it's because they're free (of charge), and that makes them a very cheap marketing tool to blind even the enlightened ones. please alter the creative commons-license a.s.a.p. to exclude those moneymoneymoneyheads from an evergrowing culture. shut the door. brave new world. the expert (worried) > Mercedes Benz have released a free to download mp3 mix tape on their > global > car site :::: > > The tape includes tracks poerating across a number of electronic music > genres - mostly idm & techno but there are elements & influences from > microsound field to be heard :::: > > http://www.mercedes-benz.com/mixedtape > > The current selection includes a track from He Can Jog (Erik Schoster) > & > Terry Ubrien from www.audiobulb.com > > David Newman > Audiobulb Records > www.audiobulb.com > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 07:42:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Brian Klein <xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Mercedes Benz mp3 Mix Tape To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT where is the music/mp3 itself? when i looked, there was only a short description and a link that said "start special." when i clicked on it, the page just reloaded. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - Send 10MB messages! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail From Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 15:47:56 +0100 From: "xxxx@xxxxx.xxx" <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Mercedes Benz mp3 Mix Tape To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: xxxx@xxxxx.xxx Message-id: <003d01c45931$12600a10$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT do u have a popup blocker? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.sijis.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spank-moose/canada day july 1st 2004 @ the foundry london > where is the music/mp3 itself? when i looked, there > was only a short description and a link that said > "start special." when i clicked on it, the page just reloaded. From Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 16:03:01 +0100 From: David Newman <xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Mercedes Benz mp3 Mix Tape To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>, xxxx@xxxxx.xxx Message-id: <003001c45933$2efa8270$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Yes pop-up blocker needs to be switched off :::: ----- Original Message ----- From: "xxxx@xxxxx.xxx" <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx.xx> To: "microsound" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2004 3:47 PM Subject: Re: [microsound] Mercedes Benz mp3 Mix Tape > do u have a popup blocker? > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > http://www.sijis.com > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > spank-moose/canada day > july 1st 2004 @ the foundry london > > > > > > where is the music/mp3 itself? when i looked, there > > was only a short description and a link that said > > "start special." when i clicked on it, the page just reloaded. > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > > > From Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 15:53:49 -0400 (EDT) From: Patrick Valiquet <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx> Subject: ottawa venues/contacts? To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT a shot in the dark from pino the frog... i'm going to be in ottawa, on (canada) july 28-august4 and would love to play out there if i get the chance. so i'm looking for performance opportunities/venue contacts in ottawa (or possibly montreal). sorry if i've annoyed anyone. please reply off list. thanks, p ===== Øä PnîáÃ`Ìgx9KlóS•Ìh´9»=œ®_®½ö±ql°<|Pô“ )”ì¹xS@‹ñìðeúë© Çñ=Ž>²åûMsØ›h#Õ×k·#Í6žü:´kB*÷Ú©¶½ö“™Gγü>u4ÖÿžŽ¾Ú÷ç5 À8¡ http://www3.telus.net/pinothefrog/ @ ½ø’ÈWϱïÚU¤IéѼž¹ÑmàÝs è+ý5E“)IÐ ÃBâÅ/²@A€gºžët(‹qÙÄ ¯–mè0%—íDcWïýŸ_Ÿ‰— þ[>¿B±¸ Ÿ_i}¾Ëï³5ý_/çËÿ,¿k—믾C`©rÉ?Ÿ Ä×îõ$2,‚µðÈd7’ ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca --Boundary_(ID_91P4dEZUnQh8JBmE0UdlcQ) Content-Type: message/rfc822; Name="Re: [microsound] ottawa venues/contacts?" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 16:00:33 -0400 (EDT) From: Neil Wiernik <xxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] ottawa venues/contacts? To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=X-UNKNOWN Content-transfer-encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE if you can pass along the info once you got it that would be cool I have been tring to find out the same info for some time my self (living only 2 hrs away I often would like to play ottawa...) but to no luck... :( On Wed, 23 Jun 2004, Patrick Valiquet wrote: > a shot in the dark from pino the frog... > > i'm going to be in ottawa, on (canada) july 28-august4 > and would love to play out there if i get the chance. > so i'm looking for performance opportunities/venue > contacts in ottawa (or possibly montreal). > > sorry if i've annoyed anyone. please reply off list. > > thanks, > > p > > > ===== > Øä PnîáÃ`Ìgx9KlóS•Ìh´9»=œ®_®½ö±ql°<|Pô“ )”ì¹xS@‹ñìðeúë© > Çñ=Ž>²åûMsØ›h#Õ×k·#Í6žü:´kB*÷Ú©¶½ö“™Gγü>u4ÖÿžŽ¾Ú÷ç5 > À8¡ http://www3.telus.net/pinothefrog/ @ ½ø’ÈWϱïÚU¤IéѼž¹ÑmàÝs è+ý5E“)IÐ ÃBâÅ/²@A€gºžët(‹qÙÄ ¯–mè0%—íDcWïýŸ_Ÿ‰— > þ[>¿B±¸ Ÿ_i}¾Ëï³5ý_/çËÿ,¿k—믾C`©rÉ?Ÿ Ä×îõ$2,‚µðÈd7’ > > ______________________________________________________________________ > Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > -------------------------------------- [neil adam wiernik aka naw] xxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx [music available on] http://www.noisefactoryrecords.com http://www.pieheadrecords.com http://www.worthyrecords.com http://www.complot.ca [artist features] http://www.clevermusic.net http://www.newmusiccanada.com http://www.cognitionaudioworks.com -------------------------------------- --Boundary_(ID_91P4dEZUnQh8JBmE0UdlcQ) Content-Type: message/rfc822; Name="RE: [microsound] ottawa venues/contacts?" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 16:44:03 -0400 From: Michael North <xxxxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: RE: [microsound] ottawa venues/contacts? To: 'microsound' <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <000301c45962$d22406e0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Hello I'm in/outside Ottawa and had been looking at setting up some gigs here/there but got sidetracked selling my abode...still sorta sidetracked/still selling the house...anyway I'll forward some addresses that I know of...there are some places to play here...mostly smaller venues.... mike_north //*-----Original Message----- //*From: Neil Wiernik [mailto:xxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx] //*Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2004 3:01 PM //*To: microsound //*Subject: Re: [microsound] ottawa venues/contacts? //* //* //*if you can pass along the info once you got it that would be cool I have //*been tring to find out the same info for some time my self (living only 2 //*hrs away I often would like to play ottawa...) but to no luck... //*:( //* //* //* //* //*On Wed, 23 Jun 2004, Patrick Valiquet wrote: //* //*> a shot in the dark from pino the frog... //*> //*> i'm going to be in ottawa, on (canada) july 28-august4 //*> and would love to play out there if i get the chance. //*> so i'm looking for performance opportunities/venue //*> contacts in ottawa (or possibly montreal). //*> //*> sorry if i've annoyed anyone. please reply off list. //*> //*> thanks, //*> //*> p //*> //*> //*> ===== //*> Øä //* //*PnîÂáÃ`ÃŒgx9KlóS•Ìh´9»=Ϩ_®½ö±ql°<|Pô“ )â€Ã¬Â¹xS@‹ñìðeúë© //*> Çñ=Ž>²åûMsØ›h#ÂÕ×k·#Ã6žü:´kB*÷Ú©¶½ö“™Gγü>u4ÖÿžŽ¾Ú÷ç5 //*> À8¡ http://www3.telus.net/pinothefrog/ @ ½ø’ÈWñïÚU¤IéѼž¹Ñmà Ãs //*è+ý5ÂE“)Ià ÃBâÅ/²@A€gºÂžët(‹qÙÄ Â¯–mÂè0%—ÃDcWïýŸ_Ÿ‰— //*> þ[>¿B±¸ Ÿ_i}¾Ëï³5ý_/çËÿ,¿k—믾 C`©rÉ?Ÿ Ä×îõ$2,‚µðÈd7’ //*> //*> ______________________________________________________________________ //*> Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca //*> //*> --------------------------------------------------------------------- //*> To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx //*> For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx //*> website: http://www.microsound.org //*> //*> //* //*-------------------------------------- //*[neil adam wiernik aka naw] //* xxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx //*[music available on] //* http://www.noisefactoryrecords.com //* http://www.pieheadrecords.com //* http://www.worthyrecords.com //* http://www.complot.ca //*[artist features] //* http://www.clevermusic.net //* http://www.newmusiccanada.com //* http://www.cognitionaudioworks.com //*-------------------------------------- //* //*--------------------------------------------------------------------- //*To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx //*For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx //*website: http://www.microsound.org --Boundary_(ID_91P4dEZUnQh8JBmE0UdlcQ) Content-Type: message/rfc822; Name="RE: [microsound] ottawa venues/contacts?" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 16:53:55 -0400 (EDT) From: Neil Wiernik <xxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: RE: [microsound] ottawa venues/contacts? To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=utf-8 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT that would be super cool michael... Im in montreal so small venues are always nice to me... neil.. On Wed, 23 Jun 2004, Michael North wrote: > Hello I'm in/outside Ottawa and had been looking at setting up some gigs here/there but got sidetracked selling my abode...still sorta sidetracked/still selling the house...anyway I'll forward some addresses that I know of...there are some places to play here...mostly smaller venues.... > > mike_north > > //*-----Original Message----- > //*From: Neil Wiernik [mailto:xxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx] > //*Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2004 3:01 PM > //*To: microsound > //*Subject: Re: [microsound] ottawa venues/contacts? > //* > //* > //*if you can pass along the info once you got it that would be cool I have > //*been tring to find out the same info for some time my self (living only 2 > //*hrs away I often would like to play ottawa...) but to no luck... > //*:( > //* > //* > //* > //* > //*On Wed, 23 Jun 2004, Patrick Valiquet wrote: > //* > //*> a shot in the dark from pino the frog... > //*> > //*> i'm going to be in ottawa, on (canada) july 28-august4 > //*> and would love to play out there if i get the chance. > //*> so i'm looking for performance opportunities/venue > //*> contacts in ottawa (or possibly montreal). > //*> > //*> sorry if i've annoyed anyone. please reply off list. > //*> > //*> thanks, > //*> > //*> p > //*> > //*> > //*> ===== > //*> Øä > //* > //*PnîÂáÃ`ÃŒgx9KlóS•Ìh´9»=Ϩ_®½ö±ql°<|Pô“ )â€Ã¬Â¹xS@‹ñìðeúë© > //*> Çñ=Ž>²åûMsØ›h#ÂÕ×k·#Ã6žü:´kB*÷Ú©¶½ö“™Gγü>u4ÖÿžŽ¾Ú÷ç5 > //*> À8¡ http://www3.telus.net/pinothefrog/ @ ½ø’ÈWñïÚU¤IéѼž¹Ñmà Ãs > //*è+ý5ÂE“)Ià ÃBâÅ/²@A€gºÂžët(‹qÙÄ Â¯–mÂè0%—ÃDcWïýŸ_Ÿ‰— > //*> þ[>¿B±¸ Ÿ_i}¾Ëï³5ý_/çËÿ,¿k—믾 > C`©rÉ?Ÿ Ä×îõ$2,‚µðÈd7’ > //*> > //*> ______________________________________________________________________ > //*> Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca > //*> > //*> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > //*> To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > //*> For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > //*> website: http://www.microsound.org > //*> > //*> > //* > //*-------------------------------------- > //*[neil adam wiernik aka naw] > //* xxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx > //*[music available on] > //* http://www.noisefactoryrecords.com > //* http://www.pieheadrecords.com > //* http://www.worthyrecords.com > //* http://www.complot.ca > //*[artist features] > //* http://www.clevermusic.net > //* http://www.newmusiccanada.com > //* http://www.cognitionaudioworks.com > //*-------------------------------------- > //* > //*--------------------------------------------------------------------- > //*To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > //*For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > //*website: http://www.microsound.org > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > -------------------------------------- [neil adam wiernik aka naw] xxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx [music available on] http://www.noisefactoryrecords.com http://www.pieheadrecords.com http://www.worthyrecords.com http://www.complot.ca [artist features] http://www.clevermusic.net http://www.newmusiccanada.com http://www.cognitionaudioworks.com -------------------------------------- --Boundary_(ID_91P4dEZUnQh8JBmE0UdlcQ) Content-Type: message/rfc822; Name="RE: [microsound] ottawa venues/contacts?" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 08:32:55 -0500 From: "s. arden hill" <x_xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: RE: [microsound] ottawa venues/contacts? To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Message-id: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT When I played in Ottawa it was at the SAW Gallery. Small venue but sounded pretty good. The people were amazing and had a nice turn out. I have heard that other people have played there as well. It might be worth a shot contacting them xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx good luck, Arden From Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 16:53:55 -0400 (EDT) To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> From: Neil Wiernik <xxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: RE: [microsound] ottawa venues/contacts? Message-ID: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> that would be super cool michael... Im in montreal so small venues are always nice to me... neil.. On Wed, 23 Jun 2004, Michael North wrote: >Hello I'm in/outside Ottawa and had been looking at setting up some gigs = here/there but got sidetracked selling my abode...still sorta sidetracked/s= till selling the house...anyway I'll forward some addresses that I know of.= =2E.there are some places to play here...mostly smaller venues.... > >mike_north > >//*-----Original Message----- >//*From: Neil Wiernik [mailto:xxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx] >//*Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2004 3:01 PM >//*To: microsound >//*Subject: Re: [microsound] ottawa venues/contacts? >//* >//* >//*if you can pass along the info once you got it that would be cool I ha= ve >//*been tring to find out the same info for some time my self (living onl= y 2 >//*hrs away I often would like to play ottawa...) but to no luck... >//*:( >//* >//* >//* >//* >//*On Wed, 23 Jun 2004, Patrick Valiquet wrote: >//* >//*> a shot in the dark from pino the frog... >//*> >//*> i'm going to be in ottawa, on (canada) july 28-august4 >//*> and would love to play out there if i get the chance. >//*> so i'm looking for performance opportunities/venue >//*> contacts in ottawa (or possibly montreal). >//*> >//*> sorry if i've annoyed anyone. please reply off list. >//*> >//*> thanks, >//*> >//*> p _________________________________________________________________ http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines --Boundary_(ID_91P4dEZUnQh8JBmE0UdlcQ) Content-Type: message/rfc822; Name="Re: [microsound] Mac vs PC (linux information)[pd readymades]" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 19:05:06 -0400 From: Michal Seta <xxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Mac vs PC (linux information)[pd readymades] To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxx.xxx.xx-x-xxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT "Tjeerd Sietsma" <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx> writes: > You're right, that's a main argument to choose for PD. But next to that, > PD should also provide it's user with top-level building blocks. The links I sent in my previous mail in this thread are such building blocks and they even have a GUI. If there aren't enough it's only because 1) there aren't many users who actually develop for the good of the community, 2) not enough people asked for such things. Keep in mind that many users share their work (not enough perhaps) so you can always dig in and adapt to your own needs. > This > would help a lot of developers gain programming speed and reduce > efforts. Developers or users? > I guess this is exactly what Miller Puckette doesn't want. I don't think so. In fact Miller has started an effort of porting some pieces from the IRCAM interactive computer music literature (Boulez, Saariaho, Manoury) and examples of using pd for such things like collage a la Tenney, spectral resynthesis a la Harvey, phase a la Reich but IRCAM pulled the plug due to licensing. Some of the components (if not most) were ready to reuse. Blame IRCAM for not allowing access to such great resource. OTOH, I doubt David Z., the cycler74, spends time making user-friendly high-level modules. Other people do that. But then, I don't know jack... i might be wrong. The upside is that there is more interest for high-level blocks and some users started providing some goodies. Stay tuned. -- _ __ __ (_)___ Michal Seta / \/ \ _/^ _| / V |_ \ @creazone.32k.org (___/V\___|_|___/ http://www.[creazone]|[noonereceiving].32k.org --Boundary_(ID_91P4dEZUnQh8JBmE0UdlcQ) Content-Type: message/rfc822; Name="Re: [microsound] sound programming" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 19:10:52 -0400 From: Michal Seta <xxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] sound programming To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxx.xxx.xx-x-xxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT derek holzer <xxxxx@x-x.xxx> writes: > alexey [eggnot] grishenko wrote: > > im interesting in such kind of environment, or maybe program > > language, there posible to operate with sound like usual > > programming. where samples and effects can be used like a functions. > > Look at SuperCollider [linux,mac], CSound [linux,mac,pc], Pure Data > [linux,mac,pc] or MAX/MSP [mac,pc]. SuperCollider and CSound will most > resemble a "traditional" programming environment, as they are > text-only and commandline-operated at the core. Pure Data, MAX/MSP and > the various GUIs written for SuperCollider [mac only] and CSound give > a more graphical approach to programming and use. Also, worth checking out: Common Lisp Music, snd (sound editor which can be scripted with scheme or ruby and and then the user has all CLM power at his disposal) and Nyquist. They're all multiplatform to some extent. -- _ __ __ (_)___ Michal Seta / \/ \ _/^ _| / V |_ \ @creazone.32k.org (___/V\___|_|___/ http://www.[creazone]|[noonereceiving].32k.org --Boundary_(ID_91P4dEZUnQh8JBmE0UdlcQ) Content-Type: message/rfc822; Name="Visiting Vancouver" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 16:40:09 -0700 From: Biagio Azzarelli <xxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Visiting Vancouver To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Message-id: <000201c4597b$6da8e050$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT hello listites, I'm out in Vancouver from June 30th - July 7th and hoping to catch some live music. Haven't visited before and want to see what the city has to offer. Anyone know of any shows or experimental music spaces? Any thing else of interest would be great to know about as well (eg. museums, bldgs, bridges). thanks, Biagio Azzarelli xxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_91P4dEZUnQh8JBmE0UdlcQ) Content-Type: message/rfc822; Name="MOTHER2 online now!" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 01:55:16 +0200 From: "ma_hovina : : :" <xx_xxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: MOTHER2 online now! To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BCFFE504.353%xx_xxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_3YNke8qaeBOjeWDoeeTztg)" --Boundary_(ID_3YNke8qaeBOjeWDoeeTztg) Content-Type: text/plain; Charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit i'm soooooo proud to announce: MOTHER2 (macos adios!) is online now! it took quite long to release it, with some small and some bigger problems, but it's here now ready for you to download and enjoy! i asked atom one year ago to contribute the 2nd mother-list compilation again, this time totaly different from the 1st MOTHER. the story goes like this: atom sent me his track, based on several samples only, and he sent me these samples too. the mother-list members got the samples only and made their own track out of them, without listening to the atom's track before. and the deal was to use only these samples and nothing else. well, what came out is amazing! it's so great to listen to the different styles made of very few and very thiny samples, some of mother-members didn't make anything because it was too thiny for them (miguel ruiz, i'm sorry you didn't try it!) but the ones who did it, did a really great job. thank you guys!! you can find MOTHER @ http://atom-heart.com/mother i have updated the 1st compilation too, so please if you have linked it on your site change that! use the address above, this is the only one that will not change. and one more thing: until 1st of july you'll find zip files of the hi quality versions of both of compilations. 192kbps AAC files inside (which sounds something like 224kbps mp3 compression) (you'll need iTunes or QuickTime to listen to it.) tracklisting MOTHER2 01 PERNOW vorspann 5:35 02 ATOM align alyn 2:50 03 THE SCHMIDTS bahnweg 1.0 4:06 04 PHONAUT atomaticomposition #2 3:17 05 HELEMANU get out destroy 1:37 06 CONCAV:MBB wechselwirkungen subatomarer teilchen 3:25 07 JET JAGUAR creta 3:53 08 DEVNULL "ab"* 3:35 09 JIM PASCOE tone garden 2:16 10 PELAX [12]bit plot 4:35 11 BAD LAND FARMERS mor mi 3:25 12 MA_HOVINA ma_dre 1:40 13 HELEMANU don helemanu 4:00 14 SF engine.cxt 5:18 15 JON McMILLION demo2 5:18 tracklisting MOTHER1 01 CODEC echoface 5:21 02 ECM coward 5:51 03 [AMB] monofluor (version pharmacoustique) 4:03 04 CONCAV:MBB das baukastenprinzip 5:35 05 SF reduktase 2:47 06 ~CTENE atomdoorstop 3:17 07 MIGUEL A. RUIZ corporal ticket 4:24 08 PHONAUT spacemaker (beatbox edit) 3:58 09 JON McMILLION true blue 3:21 10 MA_HOVINA g. s. u p. materinu 0:58 11 ATOMdigital listening (edit 2001) 4:06 12 FINGERPRINCE + BHANG krassimir's digital breakfast 4:30 13 CRE-8unanswered prayers 3:55 14 NE9LECT du sable sur ta peau 3:40 : : : enjoy but safely =: : : : http://atom-heart.com --Boundary_(ID_3YNke8qaeBOjeWDoeeTztg)-- --Boundary_(ID_91P4dEZUnQh8JBmE0UdlcQ) Content-Type: message/rfc822; Name="dalai lama / vancouver" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 19:29:29 -0700 (PDT) From: xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx Subject: dalai lama / vancouver To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxx.xx.x.xxx.xxx.xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xx.x.xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Hi all, A while ago a message was sent to this list concerning a sound installation honoring the Dalai Lama's visit to Vancouver. I'm wondering if anyone knows if this installation actually came together-- I sent in some material to be used for it, but I emailed the address to inquire about it and got no response. Thanks, Mike Hallenbeck http://www.juniorbirdman.com/archive --Boundary_(ID_91P4dEZUnQh8JBmE0UdlcQ) Content-Type: message/rfc822; Name="Re: [microsound] dalai lama / vancouver" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 13:48:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Mark Hannesson <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] dalai lama / vancouver To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT I was at the show/installation (helped out as well). It went great, awesome venue, cool sounds. There were a few who braved the cold and rainy weather, but all seemed to enjoy the experience. I will pass your email on to the organizer. Mark Hannesson --- xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx wrote: > Hi all, > > A while ago a message was sent to this list > concerning a sound > installation honoring the Dalai Lama's visit to > Vancouver. I'm wondering > if anyone knows if this installation actually came > together-- I sent in > some material to be used for it, but I emailed the > address to inquire > about it and got no response. > > Thanks, > Mike Hallenbeck > http://www.juniorbirdman.com/archive > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! 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Taking electronic remainders and the errors produced in DSP Click here: http://mx.geocites.com/justburagain JUANJOSERIVASZUÑIGA [Radical Technology] <mailto:xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx.xx> < --Boundary_(ID_xd6hvr4vVZejH7dWirMq/A)-- --Boundary_(ID_91P4dEZUnQh8JBmE0UdlcQ) Content-Type: message/rfc822; Name="spycasts and wilco" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 23:09:28 -0700 From: Kim Cascone <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: spycasts and wilco To: microsound_list <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BCFFBE28.10FAD%xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT http://www.wired.com/news/digiwood/0,1412,63952,00.html?tw=wn_tophead_7 --Boundary_(ID_91P4dEZUnQh8JBmE0UdlcQ) Content-Type: message/rfc822; Name="Re: [microsound] spycasts and wilco" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 05:46:28 -0700 (PDT) From: m mouth <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] spycasts and wilco To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_KJwn4/rJW0Owf/PufgUTtA)" --Boundary_(ID_KJwn4/rJW0Owf/PufgUTtA) Content-Type: text/plain; Charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit talking of which..... http://www.sijis.com http://www.sijis.com/radioarchive.php Kim Cascone <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote: http://www.wired.com/news/digiwood/0,1412,63952,00.html?tw=wn_tophead_7 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? 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To: xxxxxxxxx-xxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx, microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>, xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx, xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx Message-id: <011501c459bd$5555bdb0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_Y5uabdqeT1oSIair75LEcw)" --Boundary_(ID_Y5uabdqeT1oSIair75LEcw) Content-Type: text/plain; Charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit this is a notice to all that are interested, you can now purchase the currentarray t-shirt line on the current recordings website. www.current-recordings.com (on the catalog page) anyone that purchases the entire line (one of each design) will receive the new j.frede/scanner CD free of charge. for anyone that didnt catch the last post about the line,, heres the details. currentarray was created to bring you prints from composers working in the field of computer, microsound and lowercase music. many of the composers for the series you will be familiar with, some are lesser know, but none the less promising acts working in sound and design. when choosing the artists for the series we considered just that, composers whom also work as designers. each season will bring three new prints, from three different artists. each print will only be available for a short time in a very limited run of 50 pieces. printed on the highest quality t-shirts. each design will be sold in sizes (men's) small - medium - large summer.2004 brings us steve roden http://inbetweennoise.com (trente oiseaux, sirr, line/12k) janek schaefer http://www.audiOh.com (sub rosa, fat cat records, audiOh!) john hudak http://www.johnhudak.net (alluvial Recordings, intransitive recordings, and-oar) www.current-recordings.com also available June 30th, the new j.frede/scanner cd titled "j.frede rewrites scanners diary" out on current recordings, preview audio clips can be heard on the site. --Boundary_(ID_Y5uabdqeT1oSIair75LEcw)-- --Boundary_(ID_91P4dEZUnQh8JBmE0UdlcQ) Content-Type: message/rfc822; Name="Algorithmic sound" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 09:34:27 -0400 From: marc lafia <xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Algorithmic sound To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BD0050A3.9B1%xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT http://www.r4nd.org/info.html I would be curious to hear thoughts about this work on the list. I have been listening for several hours. A brief description below. I have been working on something similar for image and hope to get it up soon. ml June 23, 2004 Movin' with rand()% Every night, I dream of a vast machine. It eternally shuffles quantum states; it churns all the integers of a complex equilibrium. It's sound that is at the same time landscape; pure extension and span. This condition has persisted for weeks, and I blame it on artists Tom Betts and Joe Gilmore, whose rand()% project seems to have commandeered my RealOne Player. Commissioned by Huddersfield England's Media Centre Network, this internet radio station devotes itself entirely to generative and algorithmically mediated music. Every program rand()% plays is composed afresh in real time; in essence, it's a soundbot. With talents like Itialian digital artist Lia and late German composer Karlheinz Stockhausen in the mix, I'm finding it very hard to sleep. - Lewis LaCook --Boundary_(ID_91P4dEZUnQh8JBmE0UdlcQ) Content-Type: message/rfc822; Name="Generative Sounds" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 09:44:15 -0400 From: marc lafia <xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Generative Sounds To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BD0052EF.9B7%xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT http://www.r4nd.org/info.html I would be curious to hear thoughts about this work on the list. I have been listening for several hours. A brief description below. I have been working on something similar for image and hope to get it up soon. ml June 23, 2004 Movin' with rand()% Every night, I dream of a vast machine. It eternally shuffles quantum states; it churns all the integers of a complex equilibrium. It's sound that is at the same time landscape; pure extension and span. This condition has persisted for weeks, and I blame it on artists Tom Betts and Joe Gilmore, whose rand()% project seems to have commandeered my RealOne Player. Commissioned by Huddersfield England's Media Centre Network, this internet radio station devotes itself entirely to generative and algorithmically mediated music. Every program rand()% plays is composed afresh in real time; in essence, it's a soundbot. With talents like Itialian digital artist Lia and late German composer Karlheinz Stockhausen in the mix, I'm finding it very hard to sleep. - Lewis LaCook --Boundary_(ID_91P4dEZUnQh8JBmE0UdlcQ) Content-Type: message/rfc822; Name="Symbiosis Playlist - 20/6/04" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 23:56:16 +1000 From: Simon Hampson <xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx.xx> Subject: Symbiosis Playlist - 20/6/04 To: Microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx.xx Message-id: <BGEGLJANJODPJPDMGMDICEHCCMAA.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_PdBFsMd+0pArp4biVA/R7g)" --Boundary_(ID_PdBFsMd+0pArp4biVA/R7g) Content-Type: text/plain; Charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MessageSymbiosis Experimental Sound Textures and Rhythms Headphones recommended 12am - 2am Sunday nights (1pm - 3pm Sunday afternoon GMT) Time Zone Converter: http://wwp.greenwichmeantime.com/gmt-converter2.htm (Show broadcasts in GMT +10) 102.7 FM, Melbourne, Australia Listen online: http://www.rrr.org.au Symbiosis c/o Triple R PO Box 304 Fitzroy, VIC 3068 Australia xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx.xx presented by Simon Hampson -------------------------------------------- Hi everyone, I hope this week's email finds you all well... things are finally coming together again after a busy start to the year. This Sunday 27th I will be joined by: - Michael Graeve (http://www.abc.net.au/arts/adlib/stories/s855925.htm) to chat about his performance piece at Australian Culture Now (http://www.ngv.vic.gov.au/whatson/whatson_eventlist.jsp?locationID=3&eventI D=206). - Brendan Palmer to chat about Environ, held monthly on the first Sunday at Loop (http://www.environline.net/) (second one coming up on 4th). Coming Soon: 4th July: J.Frede joins me on the phone from Los Angeles to talk about his new collaboration with Scanner, j.frede rewrites scanner's diary (see: www.current-recordings.com and www.jfrede.com) In the pipeline: Monthly label features, exclusive Sub Rosa mix, Liquid Architecture 5 features Until next week... Simon. -------------------------------------------- Show From Date: 20/6/04 Artist :: Track :: Album :: Label Loscil :: argonaut :: Submers :: Kranky Vs_Price :: dither :: <calin>minette_ :: Expanding Records B. Fleischmann :: chad f :: Pop Loops For Breakfast :: Morr Music Ultra-Red :: N30 :: Below Code :: Comatonse Ga-Ne-Tli-Yv-S-Di :: solar diazinon (drone mix) :: I-Celestial-Insect :: Doctsect Mika Vainio :: motel :: In The Land Of The Blind One-Eyed Is King :: Touch Gabrielle Proy :: lagom :: Hearing Place :: Move Christopher Willits :: stomata :: Pollen :: Fallt Full Swing :: autopoieses. c[ ] edit :: edits :: Orthlorng Musork C.Rosenau / J.Schoenecker / J.Warchol :: history erased :: Allegorical Power Dec 03 :: Antiopic Kid606 :: powerbookfiend :: Kill Sound Before Sound Kills You :: Ipecac Aoki Takamasa :: who's next? mr. bill will come and kill you to look out for no. 1 :: 60 Sound Artists Protest The War :: Atak Kenneth Kirschner :: june 18 2002 :: January 2, 1999 et al :: Conv Net.Lab Anthony Pateras :: transmutations iv :: Mutant Theatre :: Tsadik Super_Collider :: bug trackin :: Raw Digits :: Rise Robots Rise F.Duck :: dither :: CDR from artist Joel Stern :: saltwort :: Overland :: Naturestrip Mugen :: 25 october live @ fabrica Pt. 1 :: Term 10 :: 12k Oval :: store check :: 94diskont :: Thrill Jockey Takagi Masakatsu :: re pia 1 :: Opus Pia :: Carpark The Phonographers Union :: 7 :: Live On Sonarchy Radio :: Accretions ----------------------- To Unsubscribe from future Symbiosis mailings please email: xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx.xx ----------------------- --Boundary_(ID_PdBFsMd+0pArp4biVA/R7g)-- --Boundary_(ID_91P4dEZUnQh8JBmE0UdlcQ) Content-Type: message/rfc822; Name="german headphone festival update" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 20:42:27 +0200 From: triPhaze <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: german headphone festival update To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Message-id: <002101c45a1b$010d9260$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_1srgnkyXXz1fEtg1JvQ8uA)" --Boundary_(ID_1srgnkyXXz1fEtg1JvQ8uA) Content-Type: text/plain; Charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ PRIVATELEKTRO Headphone Festival II - 2004 JULY 23rd + 24th to keep anyone informed about the forthcoming event of the year - privatelektro´s two day headphone streaming festival in july - we launched a special website: ***************** http://www.headphone-festival.de ******************** there will be a lot of new stuff in the next weeks (technical description so you can easily receive the stream, news about the schedule etc), so check for updates regularly to keep informed. besides all facts about this year´s concert and all technical aspects we included a VERY HUGE AMOUNT OF DOWNLOADS as a documentation of what happened last year at the same place.: THE DOWNLOADS: VIDEO "headphone festival 2003 - the movie" a 25 minute documentation film by ALIAS (www.1-sein.de), featuring excerpts from the live concerts, impressions from the receiving spot at GFZK Leipzig and lots of behind the scenes - footage (chatting, drinking beer and playing with knobs. you´ll love it!). download .wma (low-res): http://www.headphone-festival.de/download/03_video/03_headphone_wmv_001.wmv download .avi (divX, hi-res): http://www.headphone-festival.de/download/03_video/03_headphone_avi_001.avi THE DOWNLOADS: MUSIC http://www.headphone-festival.de/download/03_mp3/03_headphone_set02_deadfishaudio.mp3 ARTIST: Dead Fish Audio TITEL: Electro Dub FILE-SIZE: 75.407 KB ------------------ http://www.headphone-festival.de/download/03_mp3/03_headphone_set03_parachute.mp3 ARTIST: Parachute TITEL: Drone Cliczzz Ambient FILE-SIZE: 70.762 KB ------------------ http://www.headphone-festival.de/download/03_mp3/03_headphone_set08_triphaze.mp3 ARTIST: triPhaze TITEL: Kleines Glück im Grünen FILE-SIZE: 89.563 KB ---------------------- http://www.headphone-festival.de/download/03_mp3/03_headphone_set11_tichy.mp3 ARTIST: Tichy TITEL: Licht FILE-SIZE: 47.350 KB ------------------ http://www.headphone-festival.de/download/03_mp3/03_headphone_set12_elektroschmidt.mp3 ARTIST: Elektroschmidt TITEL: The Great Elektronic Review FILE-SIZE: 131.718 KB ---------------- http://www.headphone-festival.de/download/03_mp3/03_headphone_setbonus_elektroschmidt_alias_c_drive.mp3 ARTIST: Elektroschmidt vs Alias vs C:\ TITEL: N.A. FILE-SIZE: 17.855 KB +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ OTHER INFO: * triPhaze is doing well on his big tour through Europe (making music for animals). There will be first pics @ www.privatelektro.de soon. * Still hot: our brand new compilation cd "a monumental struggle of good vs. evil". Get your copy @ www.dust-dbugger.de. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ greetz from germany and elsewhere! stay strong and love! cabels and sounds.. ............................................................................................................................................................... :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::cd compilation: pe_cd 06::: out ::NOW::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: .......::::::::::::::::::::::....... a monumental struggle of good vs. evil .......................................................... :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::.::::: http://www.privatelektro.de :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: ................................................................................................................................................................ ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::together:::::we::::are:::::strong!:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: --Boundary_(ID_1srgnkyXXz1fEtg1JvQ8uA)-- --Boundary_(ID_91P4dEZUnQh8JBmE0UdlcQ) Content-Type: message/rfc822; Name="4 JUILLET 2004 \"POUR LES OISEAUX \"" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 21:01:37 +0200 From: uzekt <xxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx> Subject: 4 JUILLET 2004 "POUR LES OISEAUX " To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <021d01c45a1d$ad6e3990$xxxxxxxx@xxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_p1CUjuR/Muofa0IcW2P9dA)" --Boundary_(ID_p1CUjuR/Muofa0IcW2P9dA) Content-Type: text/plain; Charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit - www.postair.net - english version below -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- RENDEZ VOUS RENDEZ VOUS DIMANCHE 4 JUILLET 2004 POUR LES OISEAUX PALAIS DES BEAUX ARTS - TERRASSE LILLE - FRANCE DE 15H00 A 22H00 ENTREE GRATUITE LIVE : POLE [SCAPE (All.) - BERLIN] SI-CUT.DB [BIP-HOP (F.) - LONDRES] PHILIPPE CAM [TRAUM (All.) - LE HAVRE] JONAS BERING [KOMPAKT (All.) - LILLE] BERN [TRAUM (All.) - LILLE] TEZ [POSTAIR (F.) - LILLE] POSTAIR vous invite à la terrasse du Palais des Beaux-Arts de Lille pour un parcours des sens avec 6 concerts de musique électronique ambiante et une installation architecturale imaginée par STEL. La MISE EN SON est garantie de très haute définition grâce à un dispositif d'enceintes acoustiques modulaires. En métro : ligne 1 - station République/Beaux-Arts. En voiture : suivre direction « Lille centre », Parking sous-terrain Place de la République. Personnes à mobilité réduite : accès par le boulevard de la Liberté En cas de mauvaises conditions météorologiques, les concerts se dérouleront à l'intérieur du Palais des Beaux-Arts de Lille (Auditorium). L'accès à la terrasse s'effectue par l'intérieur du Palais des Beaux-Arts. Ce jour là, la visite du musée est gratuite pour tous. + d'infos sur : www.postair.net -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- RENDEZ VOUS RENDEZ VOUS SUNDAY, 4th JULY 2004 POUR LES OISEAUX PALAIS DES BEAUX ARTS - TERRASSE (OPEN AIR) LILLE - FRANCE from 3PM to 10PM FREE ENTRANCE LIVE : POLE [SCAPE (All.) - BERLIN] SI-CUT.DB [BIP-HOP (F.) - LONDRES] PHILIPPE CAM [TRAUM (All.) - LE HAVRE] JONAS BERING [KOMPAKT (All.) - LILLE] BERN [TRAUM (All.) - LILLE] TEZ [POSTAIR (F.) - LILLE] POSTAIR invites you to la terrasse du Palais des Beaux-Arts in Lille for a sensitive summer afternoon with 6 electronic ambient gigs and a special architectural structure concepted by STEL. Very high quality of sound is guaranted by an advanced modular acoustic system. Subway : ligne 1 - station République/Beaux-Arts. By car : follow « Lille centre ». Underground parking : Place de la République. Handicapped people : accessibility at Boulevard de la Liberté entrance In case of bad weather, gigs will happen inside the museum at the auditorium. Access to the venue is through the main entrance of the museum. This day, entrance is free also for visiting the museum. more infos : www.postair.net --Boundary_(ID_p1CUjuR/Muofa0IcW2P9dA)-- --Boundary_(ID_91P4dEZUnQh8JBmE0UdlcQ) Content-Type: message/rfc822; Name="just testing" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 20:07:35 +0100 From: murray <xx_xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: just testing To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT please ignore, this just a test 'cause my mail keeps bouncing. best murray ----- Original Message ----- From: "Simon Hampson" <xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx.xx> To: "Microsound" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 2:56 PM Subject: [microsound] Symbiosis Playlist - 20/6/04 > MessageSymbiosis > > Experimental Sound Textures and Rhythms > Headphones recommended > > 12am - 2am Sunday nights > (1pm - 3pm Sunday afternoon GMT) > > > Time Zone Converter: http://wwp.greenwichmeantime.com/gmt-converter2.htm > (Show broadcasts in GMT +10) > > 102.7 FM, Melbourne, Australia > Listen online: http://www.rrr.org.au > > Symbiosis > c/o Triple R > PO Box 304 > Fitzroy, VIC 3068 > Australia > > xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx.xx > > presented by Simon Hampson > > -------------------------------------------- > > Hi everyone, > > I hope this week's email finds you all well... things are finally coming > together again after a busy start to the year. > > This Sunday 27th I will be joined by: > - Michael Graeve (http://www.abc.net.au/arts/adlib/stories/s855925.htm) to > chat about his performance piece at Australian Culture Now > (http://www.ngv.vic.gov.au/whatson/whatson_eventlist.jsp?locationID=3&eventI > D=206). > > - Brendan Palmer to chat about Environ, held monthly on the first Sunday at > Loop (http://www.environline.net/) (second one coming up on 4th). > > Coming Soon: > > 4th July: J.Frede joins me on the phone from Los Angeles to talk about his > new collaboration with Scanner, j.frede rewrites scanner's diary (see: > www.current-recordings.com and www.jfrede.com) > > In the pipeline: Monthly label features, exclusive Sub Rosa mix, Liquid > Architecture 5 features > > Until next week... > > Simon. > -------------------------------------------- > > Show From Date: 20/6/04 > > Artist :: Track :: Album :: Label > > > Loscil :: argonaut :: Submers :: Kranky > > Vs_Price :: dither :: <calin>minette_ :: Expanding Records > > B. Fleischmann :: chad f :: Pop Loops For Breakfast :: Morr Music > > Ultra-Red :: N30 :: Below Code :: Comatonse > > Ga-Ne-Tli-Yv-S-Di :: solar diazinon (drone mix) :: I-Celestial-Insect :: > Doctsect > > Mika Vainio :: motel :: In The Land Of The Blind One-Eyed Is King :: Touch > > Gabrielle Proy :: lagom :: Hearing Place :: Move > > Christopher Willits :: stomata :: Pollen :: Fallt > > Full Swing :: autopoieses. c[ ] edit :: edits :: Orthlorng Musork > > C.Rosenau / J.Schoenecker / J.Warchol :: history erased :: Allegorical Power > Dec 03 :: Antiopic > > Kid606 :: powerbookfiend :: Kill Sound Before Sound Kills You :: Ipecac > > Aoki Takamasa :: who's next? mr. bill will come and kill you to look out for > no. 1 :: 60 Sound Artists Protest The War :: Atak > > Kenneth Kirschner :: june 18 2002 :: January 2, 1999 et al :: Conv Net.Lab > > Anthony Pateras :: transmutations iv :: Mutant Theatre :: Tsadik > > Super_Collider :: bug trackin :: Raw Digits :: Rise Robots Rise > > F.Duck :: dither :: CDR from artist > > Joel Stern :: saltwort :: Overland :: Naturestrip > > Mugen :: 25 october live @ fabrica Pt. 1 :: Term 10 :: 12k > > Oval :: store check :: 94diskont :: Thrill Jockey > > Takagi Masakatsu :: re pia 1 :: Opus Pia :: Carpark > > The Phonographers Union :: 7 :: Live On Sonarchy Radio :: Accretions > > ----------------------- > To Unsubscribe from future Symbiosis mailings please email: > xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx.xx > ----------------------- > --Boundary_(ID_91P4dEZUnQh8JBmE0UdlcQ) Content-Type: message/rfc822; Name="[test] ignore this msg..." Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 16:29:54 -0400 From: vze26m98 <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [test] ignore this msg... To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx@xx.xxx.xxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT sorry for the interference. --Boundary_(ID_91P4dEZUnQh8JBmE0UdlcQ) Content-Type: message/rfc822; Name="WDET Mutek Satellite program www.wdetfm.org" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 16:35:38 -0400 From: sr_ thinkbox <xx_xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: WDET Mutek Satellite program www.wdetfm.org To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: xx@xxxxxxxx.xx Message-id: <xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT THINKBOX ON WDET We are proud to be participating in radio presenter/DJ Liz Copeland's Mutek Satellite program. Mutek Satellite is an exclusive, weekly dose of on-the-spot interviews with Liz Copeland and Montreal's Mutek festival performers Thinkbox, Isolée, Andrew Weatherall, Aeroc and Matthew Herbert. Interviews take place every Thursday night/Friday morning in the 0100 hour EST for the duration of the five-week mini-series, as follows: Thursday night/Friday morning, June 25th: Thinkbox (Canada/USA) Thursday night/Friday morning, July 2nd: Isolée (Germany) Thursday night/Friday morning, July 9th: Andrew Weatherall (Sabres of Paradise/Two Lone Swordsmen) (UK) Thursday night/Friday morning, July 16th: Aeroc (AKA Geoff White) (USA/Spain) Thursday night/Friday morning, July 23rd: Matthew Herbert (UK) You can listen to the program streaming live on the web at WDET's web site www.wdetfm.org. _________________________________________________________________ MSN Premium includes powerful parental controls and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines --Boundary_(ID_91P4dEZUnQh8JBmE0UdlcQ) Content-Type: message/rfc822; Name="[ot/tech] monitor placement" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2004 20:47:27 +1000 From: jon <xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx.xx> Subject: [ot/tech] monitor placement To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v618) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT i was wondering if anyone can help: - what's the best placement for nearfield monitor speakers? - is there any issue with placing a speaker right on top of a (hi-fi) amp? will it cause problems? does this depend on shielding? thank you so much. reqards. by the way, if anyone knows of an available studio space in melbourne, australia.. please blip me off-list. same for anyone who thinks the above topic deserves to be offlist replied. users.tpg.com.au/adslalnw --Boundary_(ID_91P4dEZUnQh8JBmE0UdlcQ) Content-Type: message/rfc822; Name="Re: [microsound] [ot/tech] monitor placement" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2004 14:37:56 +0300 From: visa <xxxx.xxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] [ot/tech] monitor placement To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <001301c45aa8$dc29d0b0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT You might find this useful: http://snipurl.com/7btr Visa ----- Original Message ----- From: "jon" <xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx.xx> To: "microsound" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Sent: Friday, June 25, 2004 1:47 PM Subject: [microsound] [ot/tech] monitor placement > i was wondering if anyone can help: > > - what's the best placement for nearfield monitor speakers? > - is there any issue with placing a speaker right on top of a (hi-fi) > amp? will it cause problems? does this depend on shielding? > > thank you so much. > --Boundary_(ID_91P4dEZUnQh8JBmE0UdlcQ) Content-Type: message/rfc822; Name="Re: [microsound] [ot/tech] monitor placement" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2004 12:53:55 +0100 From: Owen Green <x.x.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] [ot/tech] monitor placement To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT jon wrote: > i was wondering if anyone can help: > > - what's the best placement for nearfield monitor speakers? That's a huge question :) Broadly (assuming a stereo setup): - Your listening position should form an equilateral triangle with your monitors, with 1-2m between you and them. - Your montiors should be aiming straight at your ears, preferably on the same plane, but you can angle them from above. - The monitors should be some distance from the wall behind them (>1m), or completely flush with it. - Small (i.e. most) rooms will have problems with standing waves at some low frequencies, creating peaks and troughs in the frequency response. This can be helped with some absorption on the walls behind the montiors and behind you (a sofa behind you is quite good at absorbsing LF). Stereo imaging can be helped with absorption on the side walls. YMMV, natch. There's a bundle of stuff on the web :) > - is there any issue with placing a speaker right on top of a (hi-fi) > amp? will it cause problems? does this depend on shielding? Quite possibly, try it and see. It's also quite possible, depending on what bits of the amp jut out where, that you will experience reflections from the amp that will affect your listening experince (mastering engineer Bob Katz argues against the common practice of placing nearfilds on the top of the console for this reason, reccomending instead that, if needed, one sets the speakers up at right angles to the console and puts up with indignity of turning round to listen / tweak in return for letting the monitors do their job). hth Owen --Boundary_(ID_91P4dEZUnQh8JBmE0UdlcQ) Content-Type: message/rfc822; Name="RE: [microsound] [ot/tech] monitor placement" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2004 13:57:27 +0200 From: xxxxxxxx_xxxxxxx@xxx.xx Subject: RE: [microsound] [ot/tech] monitor placement To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx.xxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT hello i suggest easi near 5 studio monitor field referrenced - low budget perfect for home recording.... cheers gianluca >-- Messaggio originale -- >Reply-To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> >From: jon <xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx.xx> > From Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2004 20:47:27 +1000 >To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> >Subject: [microsound] [ot/tech] monitor placement > > >i was wondering if anyone can help: > >- what's the best placement for nearfield monitor speakers? >- is there any issue with placing a speaker right on top of a (hi-fi) >amp? will it cause problems? does this depend on shielding? > >thank you so much. > >reqards. > >by the way, if anyone knows of an available studio space in melbourne, >australia.. please blip me off-list. >same for anyone who thinks the above topic deserves to be offlist >replied. > > >users.tpg.com.au/adslalnw > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >website: http://www.microsound.org > --Boundary_(ID_91P4dEZUnQh8JBmE0UdlcQ) Content-Type: message/rfc822; Name="mainstream microsounders/samplers?" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2004 18:23:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Adverbialsensationalist <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: mainstream microsounders/samplers? To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_MsRCU5imk4p2IFnLGgx3DA)" --Boundary_(ID_MsRCU5imk4p2IFnLGgx3DA) Content-Type: text/plain; Charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit hello all, i am rather new to list, and found microsound just a short yr ago approximately, but love every aspect of it completely. i guess once you are consumed by a passion such as sound, all else in life begins to suffer somewhat, as i have found myself constantly yearning to experiment in any way i possibly can. anyway, i appreciate the conversations that come from this list. i may be a little off asking this but i am just curious of what you all think concerning artists such as geoff white (edit, perlon ?, force inc), or dino felipe (schematics) for instance? now these artists to my understanding produce a more commercialised form of microsound/sampling if i may state my opinion. i guess what i am really trying to ask is, if these artists are considered microsounders due to the production methods they use and the result they get, by this list rather than just by the media? or are the methods they utilise and the result achieved, not acceptable by microsounders? and if so or if not, explain your opinion please. and if you have better things to do than waste time asnwering my petty question, i understand completely, just ignore this post then please. thanks... dom --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - 100MB free storage! --Boundary_(ID_MsRCU5imk4p2IFnLGgx3DA)-- --Boundary_(ID_91P4dEZUnQh8JBmE0UdlcQ) Content-Type: message/rfc822; Name="[ot] data recovery" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2004 21:07:52 -0700 From: lim <xxx_xxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [ot] data recovery To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Message-id: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT before i go digging around on my own i just wanted to ask if anyone knows of or could recommend (off-list) any reliable data recovery companies in the us...my laptop.s hard-drive failed yesterday, and i was unable to recover any of my work before i think it went entirely...right now i.m just really afraid of losing three months of work since my last full backup. thanks a bunch for your time, lim;. --Boundary_(ID_91P4dEZUnQh8JBmE0UdlcQ) Content-Type: message/rfc822; Name="Re: [microsound] [ot] data recovery" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2004 14:04:15 +0200 From: =?Windows-1252?Q?Joakim_Lind=E9n?= <xxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] [ot] data recovery To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <000501c45b75$b44182f0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Have you tried the software recovery solutions? "Easy Recovery" is one and there is another one which I can't remember right now, but I used it to get back approx. 100Gb of files from a formatted and partly overwritten drive... To ask a company to extract the data physically would probably be VERY VERY expensive and time consuming. I must say good luck anyway, hope it works out. ----- Original Message ----- From: "lim" <xxx_xxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> To: <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2004 6:07 AM Subject: [microsound] [ot] data recovery > before i go digging around on my own i just wanted to ask if anyone knows of > or could recommend (off-list) any reliable data recovery companies in the > us...my laptop.s hard-drive failed yesterday, and i was unable to recover > any of my work before i think it went entirely...right now i.m just really > afraid of losing three months of work since my last full backup. > > thanks a bunch for your time, > lim;. > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > --Boundary_(ID_91P4dEZUnQh8JBmE0UdlcQ) Content-Type: message/rfc822; Name="Re: [microsound] [ot] data recovery" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2004 14:38:12 +0200 From: derek holzer <xxxxx@x-x.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] [ot] data recovery To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxx@x-x.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Joakim Lindén wrote: > To ask a company to extract the data physically would probably be VERY VERY > expensive and time consuming. If the drive still works, you might be able to use some commercial recovery software, some kind of forensics program, or even to mount the drive READONLY with a Linux live CD and recover data that way. Look for a Unix utility called "dd" and read the docs. If the drive is kaput, then most of these companies start over a grand and work up from there, depending on how much data. Is your data worth a grand? I called one of these places up here in Holland once, and after choking when I heard the price tag, asked for some advice. The guy told me that what they usually do is simply get an identical model of harddrive and transplant the drive controller chip from the new one to the broken one. 90% of the time, that will get the drive running so that the data can be extracted. Requires some skill in soldering, of course, as well as a throw-away drive, and doesn't deal with any physical damage to the disk clusters themselves you might have, but it's how the pros do it. good luck, d. -- derek holzer ::: http://www.umatic.nl ---Oblique Strategy # 168: "Use fewer notes" --Boundary_(ID_91P4dEZUnQh8JBmE0UdlcQ) Content-Type: message/rfc822; Name="Re: [microsound] [ot] data recovery" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2004 21:29:31 +0200 From: Marco Messina <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] [ot] data recovery To: "microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BD039B3B.920E%xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT A friend of mine has paid 1000€ for recovering an hard disk, if you want I can check the name of the company to prevent this situation I suggest you to have an external hard disk where you can make daily back up > before i go digging around on my own i just wanted to ask if anyone knows of > or could recommend (off-list) any reliable data recovery companies in the > us...my laptop.s hard-drive failed yesterday, and i was unable to recover > any of my work before i think it went entirely...right now i.m just really > afraid of losing three months of work since my last full backup. > > thanks a bunch for your time, > lim;. > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > --Boundary_(ID_91P4dEZUnQh8JBmE0UdlcQ) Content-Type: message/rfc822; Name="microsound refrigerators?" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2004 10:06:28 -0700 From: Kim Cascone <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: microsound refrigerators? To: microsound_list <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BD02FB24.2024A%xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT http://www.popsci.com/popsci/science/article/0,12543,642991,00.html --Boundary_(ID_91P4dEZUnQh8JBmE0UdlcQ) Content-Type: message/rfc822; Name="Re: [microsound] microsound refrigerators?" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2004 11:55:41 -0700 From: "j.frede" <xxxxxx@xxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] microsound refrigerators? To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <032c01c45baf$311969d0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT i just read this article this morning as well,, so crazy. j.frede ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kim Cascone" <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: "microsound_list" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2004 10:06 AM Subject: [microsound] microsound refrigerators? > http://www.popsci.com/popsci/science/article/0,12543,642991,00.html > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > > --Boundary_(ID_91P4dEZUnQh8JBmE0UdlcQ) Content-Type: message/rfc822; Name="Re: [microsound] microsound refrigerators?" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2004 12:07:52 -0700 From: "Rudolph A. Carrera" <xxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] microsound refrigerators? To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: xxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT j.frede wrote: >i just read this article this morning as well,, so crazy. > >j.frede > > > > > >>http://www.popsci.com/popsci/science/article/0,12543,642991,00.html >> >> >> >> > > > If they can actually get this thing marketed, I've a feeling it'll be a success. I'd be delighted to buy one of those! Best, Rudy --Boundary_(ID_91P4dEZUnQh8JBmE0UdlcQ) Content-Type: message/rfc822; Name="Re: [microsound] microsound refrigerators?" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2004 21:10:32 +0200 From: heribert friedl <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] microsound refrigerators? To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <000801c45bb1$416fee10$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT hi, just nice fridge tracks http://www.mego.at/mego001.html lg, heri ----------------------------------- HERIBERT FRIEDL LANGACKERGASSE 37 A-1190 WIEN www.nonvisualobjects.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "j.frede" <xxxxxx@xxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: "microsound" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2004 8:55 PM Subject: Re: [microsound] microsound refrigerators? > i just read this article this morning as well,, so crazy. > > j.frede > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kim Cascone" <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> > To: "microsound_list" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> > Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2004 10:06 AM > Subject: [microsound] microsound refrigerators? > > > > http://www.popsci.com/popsci/science/article/0,12543,642991,00.html > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > website: http://www.microsound.org > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > > --Boundary_(ID_91P4dEZUnQh8JBmE0UdlcQ) Content-Type: message/rfc822; Name="RE: [microsound] microsound refrigerators?" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2004 09:53:43 +1000 From: Simon Hampson <xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx.xx> Subject: RE: [microsound] microsound refrigerators? To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx.xx Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Wow - that's a nice concept but it got me wondering.. what if the seals failed?? I mean the amount of noise that would escape.. certainly wouldn't be microsound anymore :) Simon. Symbiosis - Experimental Sound Textures and Rhythms Sunday nights, 12am - 2am 102.7 FM / www.rrr.org.au Melbourne, Australia xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx.xx -----Original Message----- From: Kim Cascone [mailto:xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx] Sent: Sunday, 27 June 2004 3:06 AM To: microsound_list Subject: [microsound] microsound refrigerators? http://www.popsci.com/popsci/science/article/0,12543,642991,00.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org --Boundary_(ID_91P4dEZUnQh8JBmE0UdlcQ) Content-Type: message/rfc822; Name="prayer field recordings" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2004 16:14:13 -0700 From: kathy kennedy <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: prayer field recordings To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v553) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Hello, I've been on this list for quite a while. And finally I'm posting with a request. I'm looking for 60 sec. max mp3 or aiff format audio recordings of people of any faith praying, but only in whispers. I realize the philosophical implications of using this kind of field recording are deep and complex. I'm using it for a composition made entirely of unvocalized utterances. Feel free to contact me off list about it. thanks, Kathy http://www.kathykennedy.ca --Boundary_(ID_91P4dEZUnQh8JBmE0UdlcQ) Content-Type: message/rfc822; Name="Chicago/August?" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2004 21:32:06 -0400 From: Al C <xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Chicago/August? To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx, xxxxxxxxx-xxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx Message-id: <BD039BD6.651B%xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Hi all, Does anyone know of any happenings in Chicago for the month of August? Also, If anyone can recommend any record stores or galleries that would be nice too. And, I'm always available for any performances;-) best, omnid --Boundary_(ID_91P4dEZUnQh8JBmE0UdlcQ)-- From ???@??? Wed Jun 16 13:07:10 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30705-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.42]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 16 Jun 2004 09:07:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 16 Jun 2004 09:07:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 61569 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 16 Jun 2004 13:07:08 +0000 Received: (qmail 61559 invoked from network); Wed, 16 Jun 2004 13:07:07 +0000 Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2004 09:03:44 -0400 From: Michal Seta <xxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Mac vs PC (linux information) In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxx.xxx.xx-x-xxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.2.93 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Lines: 94 References: <xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxx.xxx.xx-x-xxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx "Tjeerd Sietsma" <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx> writes: > Oops.. with developers I meant people developing patches with PureData. > PureData itself is already in beta stage, if not a finished product. No it's not a finished product. And Miller Puckette insists that it's 'experimental sofwtare'. That also means that many things may change in the design... for better or for worse... > It's the 'recommended' Windows installer that installs all those > sometimes pre-alpha libraries that can make your system instable. It is true that some externs can cause crashes and headakes. But this was the case with MaxMSP as well. In fact, when MSP layer was added it was it that cased the most havoc. People still bought it and were happy. I don't understand why most people are happy with buggy software if they pay for it while they whine when it's free... Don't take it personally, I'm just generalizing and thinking out ASCII. On the other hand I'm not even sure if what I'm saying applies to today's MaxMSP. I haven't used it in years (but I did have seen it crash in some life performances....). > Compared to Max/MSP you do spend more time patching your patches, > because Max/MSP contains many prefabricated objects. Ah. That's whole different story. A lot of patches have been provided by the community over the years. Keep in mind that pd has a smaller user community and hasn't been around for so long. Some users have started making some abstractions to make the whole thing more user-friendly for the newcommers: frank Barknecht's RRadical project: http://puredata.info/community/projects/rradical/RRADicalWiki David McCullum's abstractions: http://mentalfloss.ca/sintheta/html/downloads.html and here you will find pdjimmies (jimmies port) by Zack Settel: http://tot.sat.qc.ca/fra/nslam.html There are probably others around. But these should get you started. On the other hand, I think that the point of using pd is to roll your own, but I do agree that having a collection of patches around is good so that you don't reeinvent the wheel. > > > BTW, what do you mean by incomplete functionnality in PD? > Lack of prefabricated objects that allow faster development. Naturally > you can make them yourself with PureData and/or C++, but that'll take > longer. as I said above... but i don't think that lack of patches = incomplete functionnality. PD is fully functionnal and its function is to allow you to program your own patches and offer you the tools and fexibility to do it. There maybe some flaws with some solutions but it is a very capable system. > Costs are irrelevant. I like the b/w interface though, and prefer > PureData instead of Max/MSP. Also Max/MSP doesn't run on Linux *yet* :) I, too I'm waiting for the port :).... GPL'd :-) > I agree, but opensource software is often well documented as all > software should be. I didn't know the toggle in PureData could also > remember numbers, if I only knew many of such details earlier it would > have saved me days. ok, well, the documentation lacks certain details. But it is fairly complete. You can learn a lot about programming with pd if you read the manual and study the examples and help files. this is, btw, the way one learns MaxMSP (if one does not want to simply dive into ready-made solutions provided with the package). > I totally agree. But as you've said yourself, programs like Rosegarden > are years behind, and this was exactly my point, the reason why most > people choose to use Windows and/or MacOS instead. Yeah. The thing is that I started using Linux because I wanted to get away from the mainstream apps :) I'm sorry but sometimes I assume that everyone else wants to do just that, although I know I'm wrong. cheers -- _ __ __ (_)___ Michal Seta / \/ \ _/^ _| / V |_ \ @creazone.32k.org (___/V\___|_|___/ http://www.[creazone]|[noonereceiving].32k.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Jun 16 12:43:53 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30704-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.78]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 16 Jun 2004 08:43:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 16 Jun 2004 08:44:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 57057 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 16 Jun 2004 12:43:56 +0000 Received: (qmail 57047 invoked from network); Wed, 16 Jun 2004 12:43:55 +0000 Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2004 14:43:55 +0200 From: Malte Steiner <xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Mac vs PC (linux information) In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> Organization: block 4 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040514 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxx.xxx.xx-x-xxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx Tjeerd Sietsma wrote: >>>Too bad there is no professional audio tool for linux yet, afaik. >> >>What is a professional audio tool? Are you talking about sound >>quality? Or eye candy? Or the aboundance of ready made solutions? > > what I meant was that basic functions are well supported, but many > advanced functions are absent in programs. e.g. I don't know any > linux-tool with which you can morph spectra. This of course could also > very well mean that I'm not that good in browsing the internet. - Csound does this for me since ages on virtually all platforms - Pure-Data - SMS There was once this package but it seems to be morphed into a library called Clam, got to dig it myself. The lack of instrument editors are obvious but on the other hand and according to the sales of the instrumentmanufacturer I like to ask, if they still needed. People starting now from the ground prefer using software and should get themself decent controling hardware. The only point I dislike frankly in Linux is the lack of many drivers but as said before its not the Linux comunity to be blamed, its the manifacturers with their close-source-no-documentation-paranoia mentality. Just to add some aspects and thoughts, Malte -- Malte Steiner media art + development -www.block4.com- next event/ lecture: pure-data workshop 24.-25. july BEK, Bergen, Norway new releases: elektronengehirn softwareart on cdr magazine tinah#2: http://www.thisisnotahomepage.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Jun 16 12:38:03 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30702-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.70]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 16 Jun 2004 08:38:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 16 Jun 2004 08:38:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 53829 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 16 Jun 2004 12:38:05 +0000 Received: (qmail 53816 invoked from network); Wed, 16 Jun 2004 12:38:05 +0000 Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2004 14:41:17 +0200 From: derek holzer <xxxxx@x-x.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Mac vs PC (linux information)[pd readymades] In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxx@x-x.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.6 (X11/20040502) X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxx.xxx.xx-x-xxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx Tjeerd Sietsma wrote: > Oops.. with developers I meant people developing patches with PureData. > PureData itself is already in beta stage, if not a finished product. > It's the 'recommended' Windows installer that installs all those > sometimes pre-alpha libraries that can make your system instable. > Compared to Max/MSP you do spend more time patching your patches, > because Max/MSP contains many prefabricated objects. > > >>BTW, what do you mean by incomplete functionnality in PD? > > Lack of prefabricated objects that allow faster development. Naturally > you can make them yourself with PureData and/or C++, but that'll take > longer. People like Frank Barknecht and myself [from time to time] are busy building end-user "applications" in PD as educatinal tools, but I really prefer building things from low-level objects rather than cobbling together all the ready-made "blackboxes" in Max/MSP. It was a reason I disliked Reaktor so much: when I wanted to use a granulator, they had one or two "granulator objects" which you could send parameters to, but no way of getting inside the object to chnage its basic function. So I build my own in PD, and know exactly how they work and what I can change on the most basic levels. This way, I feel that the sound I make is my own creation, and not that I'm just twiddling someone else's buttons. d. -- derek holzer ::: http://www.umatic.nl ---Oblique Strategy # 36: "Consult other sources -promising -unpromising" --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Jun 16 12:38:28 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30703-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.75]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 16 Jun 2004 08:38:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 16 Jun 2004 08:38:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 54695 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 16 Jun 2004 12:38:30 +0000 Received: (qmail 54685 invoked from network); Wed, 16 Jun 2004 12:38:30 +0000 Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2004 13:38:28 +0100 From: Tjeerd Sietsma <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Mac vs PC (linux information)[nord modular + roland] In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@x-x.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME::Lite 1.4 (F2.72; T1.001; A1.62; B3.01; Q3.01) Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Sasl-Enc: om1645dGZlCGG7NQ8DO0Cg 1087389508 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@x-x.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx > As someone who is switching to Linux, I > am sure you'll appreciate it as well... You too are right :) I guess I wasn't informed well enough. Looks like microsound is actually paying me off ;) > > Welcome to nmEdit. This project attempts to create a open/free editor for the Clavia Nord Modular and Micro Modular synthesizers. Please note that this site and the whole project is still in developing stage. I'll sure give it a try. If anything else fails I can always use Windows on a worn-out P2, but this solution will be even better. Now I have to find a way to get everyting working with USB. Last time I tried for two weeks and didn't get the RME Multiface to work properly, but that has changed too. (some people from the nord modular mailing list) decided to create and free/open source editor. >sdasdasd > http://nmedit.sourceforge.net/ That sounds cool but on the other hand (playing the devils advocate now) they already have a finished editor for windows and mac that works fine. But I'm encouraging this initiative for everybody switches to Linux someday, if governments like the European one don't do nasty things with software patents. > > Notemidi is a device driver for MIDI output via the RS-232 serial port on notebook/laptop computers. Notemidi can be used with the MIDIator MS-124W interface, Roland Sound Canvas sound modules, or Yamaha MU-x series sound modules. > > http://www.michaelminn.com/linux/notemidi Nice, but most modern PC notebooks exchanged a serial port for USB ports.. perhaps someone should buy the developers a pizza and a beer. > The Nord example is interesting because it is a team of open source > developers *taking over* when a company decides not to develop software This company already did everything they could to serve their target area. They just didn't include the Linux community. Nor did they include BeOS or SGI users. If you want it, you have to make it yourself. And that is just what people do, because they can and for love for a product. The only thing you can hope for is that there will be enough volunteers to continue a project. But commercial companies also bring riscs. It's a matter of taste eventually. > for its products anymore. I see this as an extremely interesting > development/intervention into the commercial music software & hardware > market. But the bottom line is that you really can't look us in the eye > and tell us that it is not possible to use "professional" gear or > software under Linux. That is simply a myth born of ignorance. Let me adjust my statement.. not _all_ professional hardware can be used under Linux. Hm... it's getting kinda lame with your text before mine.. So when will there be a Linux variant of Kyma for the Capybara? :) Greets, Tjeerd Sietsma electronic music student @ HKU Utrecht School of Arts, the Netherlands -- Tjeerd Sietsma xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Jun 16 12:26:05 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30701-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.69]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 16 Jun 2004 08:26:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 16 Jun 2004 08:26:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 49736 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 16 Jun 2004 12:26:07 +0000 Received: (qmail 49726 invoked from network); Wed, 16 Jun 2004 12:26:06 +0000 Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2004 14:28:53 +0200 From: derek holzer <xxxxx@x-x.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Mac vs PC (linux information)[spectral morphing] In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@x-x.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.6 (X11/20040502) X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxx.xxx.xx-x-xxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx Tjeerd Sietsma wrote: > what I meant was that basic functions are well supported, but many > advanced functions are absent in programs. e.g. I don't know any > linux-tool with which you can morph spectra. This of course could also > very well mean that I'm not that good in browsing the internet. FREQTWEAK FreqTweak is a tool for FFT-based realtime audio spectral manipulation and display. It provides several algorithms for processing audio data in the frequency domain and a highly interactive GUI to manipulate the associated filters for each. It also provides high-resolution spectral displays in the form of scrolling-raster spectrograms and energy vs frequency plots displaying both pre- and post-processed spectra. [Think: NI SPectral Delay!!!] http://freqtweak.sourceforge.net/ CERES3 Ceres3 is a cut-and-paste spectral editor with musically enhanced graphic control over spectral activity of a sound file. http://www.music.columbia.edu/~stanko/About_Ceres3.html SND Snd is a sound editor modelled loosely after Emacs and an old, sorely-missed PDP-10 sound editor named Dpysnd. It can accommodate any number of sounds each with any number of channels, and can be customized and extended using either Guile or Ruby. [Snd has some basic FFT operations that could be customized into user-defined spectral operations.] http://ccrma.stanford.edu/software/snd/snd/snd.html and there are others.... d. ps...Tjeerd, I have written to several instructors at the HKU about doing an open source audio workshop there, all without reply. I live in Utrecht, just right around the corner so to speak. Why doesn't anybody @ HKU answer my emails, if there are students like you interested in Linux audio? -- derek holzer ::: http://www.umatic.nl ---Oblique Strategy # 202: "Back up a few steps. What else could you have done?" --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Jun 16 12:09:28 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30700-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.78]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 16 Jun 2004 08:09:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 16 Jun 2004 08:09:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 45884 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 16 Jun 2004 12:09:25 +0000 Received: (qmail 45874 invoked from network); Wed, 16 Jun 2004 12:09:25 +0000 Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2004 13:09:23 +0100 From: Tjeerd Sietsma <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Mac vs PC (linux information) In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxx.xxx.xx-x-xxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME::Lite 1.4 (F2.72; T1.001; A1.62; B3.01; Q3.01) Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Sasl-Enc: 4Kk8iOtIe8cpUqsAtx6F/w 1087387763 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxx.xxx.xx-x-xxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > Too bad there is no professional audio tool for linux yet, afaik. > What is a professional audio tool? Are you talking about sound > quality? Or eye candy? Or the aboundance of ready made solutions? what I meant was that basic functions are well supported, but many advanced functions are absent in programs. e.g. I don't know any linux-tool with which you can morph spectra. This of course could also very well mean that I'm not that good in browsing the internet. > > Rezound looks > > pretty neat, just like Audacity, but it just doesn't provide the needs > > of pro's. > > About 10 years ago I started using Sound Designer. It was caonsidered > a professional level sample editor. I think the 2 above mentioned > apps provide more functionnality. I don't think, however, that the > notion of professionalism changed radically in the past 10 years. Within a year or so I'll step into thesame profession as you do. Naturally the basic principles of our profession don't change, bus as technology evolves it gets extended all the time. > > E.g. you don't want to use it in a studio. > I have been in studios running Windoes. You don't want to you use it > in the studio. I could never understand how people were able to keep > PCs with windoes in the studio for other purposes than running > WordPerfect. I know only one Windows user who claims to have a stable > system and is able to manage an audio latency at around 10ms. > However, he lives much to far for me to actually go and check it out > because I find it hard to believe. My own experience with windows (I > tried the free version of ProTools and cakewalk 9.1, I believe) was > very disappointing. You're right when you say that win98 with crappy protools free doens't work well in a studio. Perhaps that's why digidesign quit with it. Today, Windows 2000 is stable enough for studio-use. Combined with an RME Hammerfall audio system I achieved a latency of 2x 1.5 ms (hardware) + 2ms latency (PureData) = 5 msec. latency from microphone to speaker. I've used this settings several times live. And in such a case it surely helps that you do not use your configuration for any other purpose than audio. > > Just like lovable PD it can > > do a lot > > but it isn't ready yet, PD's documentation is incomplete just like it's > > functio- > > nality. Developers spend most of the time getting it just to work. > Please, get in touch with reality. The developers are constantly > working on improving it. Yes, pd has flaws. So does commercial > software. The only difference is that if you find a bug or a flaw in > an open source software there is a very strong chance that there will > be a fix within days. In case of commercial sofwtare you usually have > to wait to the next update or upgrade and sometimes you have to pay > extra just to have a vital bug squished (or a few plus a new feature > thrown in to soap your eyes). But there are herds of musicians/artists > using pd in > production. Oops.. with developers I meant people developing patches with PureData. PureData itself is already in beta stage, if not a finished product. It's the 'recommended' Windows installer that installs all those sometimes pre-alpha libraries that can make your system instable. Compared to Max/MSP you do spend more time patching your patches, because Max/MSP contains many prefabricated objects. > BTW, what do you mean by incomplete functionnality in PD? Lack of prefabricated objects that allow faster development. Naturally you can make them yourself with PureData and/or C++, but that'll take longer. > > > In > > contrast > > to commercial applications like Max/MSP. > > I started usig Max/MSP in the MacOS8.x days. But the time of MacOS9 > but well before MacOSX I found MaxMSP rather unstable for live > performance. Everyone at my school was using it and everyone was > struggling to make the thing survive a performance. Everyone had the > unpleasant experience of MaxMSP hanging the whole system during a > performance. Perhaps that is what you think is related to > professionalism but I quickly found that I could run an audio patch on > my linux box with pd for _days_ without shutting off the audio and I'd > have no crash, no glitch. For me, the choice was obvious. You're right of course, stability is _the_ #1 requirement for live performance. In this case PureData is a winner. Today even under Windows. I'm not very familiar with the overall stability of Max/MSP these days, I hear it crashes a bit too often under Windows.. I assume it runs stable under MacOSX. > I am not saying that pd is perfect. It in fact needs a major overhaul > of some code but none of the developers claims it to be a professional > grade sofwtare, either. It's still in alpha, experimental release. > But it costs you nothing. Costs are irrelevant. I like the b/w interface though, and prefer PureData instead of Max/MSP. Also Max/MSP doesn't run on Linux *yet* :) > > This is why serious musicians > > and audio- > > philes still use Windows and/or MacOS. > Because those have been around for a long time and spend a lot of > money for marketing campaigns. And one of those comes pre-installed > when you buy a computer at your favorite store. And you are not given > a choice! If you want linux, you have to install it yourself or ask > specifically for linux at the retail store (and not all of them > provide linux systems). True. When you buy a laptop like I did.. well.. I still had to pay for Windows, couldn't get the device without it. Some harddisk manufacturers sell harddisks with Linspire (Commercial Linux distro) pre-installed. Another example is my previous motherboard from abit, it came with a linux distro with all the modules already in the kernel. So when you search the market a bit I'm sure alternatives can be found. > It is true that serious sofwtare > companies provide well packaged products with aboundant > documentation. They have the cash for it. Those musicians who just > want to plug and p[l][r]ay will naturally choose the mainstream OS > with mainstream applications. But that does not make them any more > serious than those who want to venture into the OS and apps that give > them freedom and a DIY environment for setting up their virtual gear > the way they want. I agree, but opensource software is often well documented as all software should be. I didn't know the toggle in PureData could also remember numbers, if I only knew many of such details earlier it would have saved me days. > > Another reason is that most hardware manufacturers provide drivers for > > Windows > > and Macintosh only. > > This means that with only linux you can't program > > e.g. your > > Roland synth or Nord Modular. > derek covered that in his post. Thanks for the tip, I'll search for his posts. I still have to get my XV, Midisport and Modular working under Linux. Finally I'm giving it another try :-) > > In this perspecive linux is like a decennium behind commercial > > alternatives. > Not linux. Linux is in fact a very stable and efficient OS. Some > audio applications are behind. Rosegarden is what Cubase was about 5-6 > years > ago. Ardour has a feature-set more attractive than Nuendo (minus the > MIDI sequencing) and soon it will be stable enough to actually use it > in production. Lilypond beats the socks off any notation package > currently available if you can stand the text based input (although > Rosegarden and NoteEdit are good frontends). And is well documented, > too. There are many other examples. When you say that this or that > sofwtare is so&so many years behind the commercial alternative keep in > mind that usually it's only a handful of developers working on it who > don't have the budget. I think this is impressive and merits some > kind of user support. I totally agree. But as you've said yourself, programs like Rosegarden are years behind, and this was exactly my point, the reason why most people choose to use Windows and/or MacOS instead. > > I myself am thinking of switching from Windows to linux permanently now > Good luck! Currently installing Gentoo Linux.. compiling KDE 3.2.2 for P4.. I just *love* it! Greetings, Tjeerd Sietsma electronic music student @ HKU Utrecht School of Arts, the Netherlands -- Tjeerd Sietsma xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Jun 16 11:42:28 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30699-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.78]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 16 Jun 2004 07:42:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 16 Jun 2004 07:42:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 41622 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 16 Jun 2004 11:42:30 +0000 Received: (qmail 41611 invoked from network); Wed, 16 Jun 2004 11:42:29 +0000 Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2004 13:45:38 +0200 From: derek holzer <xxxxx@x-x.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Mac vs PC (linux information)[nord modular + roland] In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@x-x.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.6 (X11/20040502) X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx Tjeerd, I'm not picking on you, I promise! ;-) It's just there was a lot of uninformed opinion in your post, and I'd like to set the record straight. As someone who is switching to Linux, I am sure you'll appreciate it as well... Tjeerd Sietsma wrote: > This means that with only linux you can't program > e.g. your > Roland synth or Nord Modular. > In this perspecive linux is like a decennium behind commercial > alternatives. Think again: > Welcome to nmEdit. This project attempts to create a open/free editor for the Clavia Nord Modular and Micro Modular synthesizers. Please note that this site and the whole project is still in developing stage. > > On 2 December Clavia announced the following: > Despite earlier information, Clavia has today decided to stop the work of the software upgrade for the Nord Modular system. Instead, Clavia will focus its development resources on new projects. > > And thus we (some people from the nord modular mailing list) decided to create and free/open source editor. > http://nmedit.sourceforge.net/ Coming soon to a Nord near you. Or what about this: > nordqt is a open source editor for Clavia Nord Modular synthesizers. The development language is C++ and chosen UI toolkit is Qt. nordqt is being developed under Linux with Qt/X11 free. The license is GPL. > http://www.iti.fi/kate/nordqt.php Or this? > Notemidi is a device driver for MIDI output via the RS-232 serial port on notebook/laptop computers. Notemidi can be used with the MIDIator MS-124W interface, Roland Sound Canvas sound modules, or Yamaha MU-x series sound modules. > http://www.michaelminn.com/linux/notemidi The Nord example is interesting because it is a team of open source developers *taking over* when a company decides not to develop software for its products anymore. I see this as an extremely interesting development/intervention into the commercial music software & hardware market. But the bottom line is that you really can't look us in the eye and tell us that it is not possible to use "professional" gear or software under Linux. That is simply a myth born of ignorance. d. -- derek holzer ::: http://www.umatic.nl ---Oblique Strategy # 182: "What wouldn't you do?" --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Jun 16 11:21:45 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30698-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.42]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 16 Jun 2004 07:21:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 16 Jun 2004 07:21:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 36970 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 16 Jun 2004 11:21:46 +0000 Received: (qmail 36946 invoked from network); Wed, 16 Jun 2004 11:21:45 +0000 Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2004 13:21:41 +0200 From: Malte Steiner <xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] PD / Microcontroller Workshop at BEK To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> Organization: block 4 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040514 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx Physical Computing Workshop with Eva Sjuve at BEK, Bergen, Norway, July 19-23, 2004 Pure Data Workshop with Malte Steiner at BEK, Bergen, Norway, July 24-25 * * * * * Physical Computing Workshop with Eva Sjuve The workshop is aimed at artists and musicians who are interested in physical interaction with the computer, a way to interact, by not using the keyboard and the mouse. In the workshop we use a microcontroller, BasicX-24, programming it using Basic language, and use it as a tool for interaction with various kinds of sensors. The workshop is basic, no programming or knowledge in electronics is necessary, but preferred. To attend the workshop is free, the participant has to pay for their own travel and lodging to Bergen, Norway. The participants will be able to keep their project from the workshop. To participate or for more info send an email to: xxx@xxx.xx And include a motivation to participate in the workshop. The workshop is limited to 7 participants. Eva Sjuve has been working with computer-based projects since the 80's, and is building and performing with physical interfaces. She has been exhibiting in Europe, US, South America, Asia and Australia, since mid –80's. Eva Sjuve studied microcontrollers at The Physics Department at Lund University, Sweden, and later at The Interactive Telecommunications Program at New York University. She holds a MA in Art Theory and Master's studies in Drama/Theatre/Film, Lund University, Sweden and a MPS at ITP, New York University. She also studied at The School of Visual Arts in New York, and at Centre de Creation Musicale Iannis Xenakis (CCMIX), Paris, France For more info: http://www.bek.no/~eva http://moomonkey.com * * * * * Pure Data Workshop with Malte Steiner Pure Data (PD) is a real-time graphical programming environment for audio, video, and graphical processing, originally developed by Miller Puckette. This workshop is aimed at beginners and will include installation of PD/GEM, serial control from a microcontroller, building of a basic sound patch and introduction to GEM (an OpenGL and video extension for Pd) Pure Data is a free software and can be used on Mac OSX, Linux, Windows 32 http://pure-data.iem.at/about/ http://www-crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/software.html Malte Steiner (Hamburg), media artist, programmer and developer. He has been developing interactive art installations using PD, MAX/MSP as well as projects for theater, web and mobile phones in Europe and in Asia. Steiner is also an electronic musician with performances in South America and Europe with his Elektronengehirn project. He has been holding workshops and lectures in Germany, US and in the UK. http://block4.com/ more info: xxx@xxx.xx * * * * * Bergen Center for Electronic Arts C.Sundtgt.55 5004 Bergen, Norway phone: +47-55233080 http://www.bek.no The workshops are supported by PNEK, (Production Network for Electronic Arts, Norway) http://pnek.no/ * * * * * --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Jun 15 20:00:54 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30697-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.69]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 15 Jun 2004 16:00:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 15 Jun 2004 16:00:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 97433 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 15 Jun 2004 20:00:57 +0000 Received: (qmail 97423 invoked from network); Tue, 15 Jun 2004 20:00:56 +0000 Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 23:06:38 +0300 From: christos carras <xxx@xxxxxx.xx> Subject: RE: [microsound] prepared piano In-reply-to: <xx.xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> To: 'microsound' <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Thread-index: AcRSqySXVIT8eH/cQTebXpKsidX69AAaQkKA Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx I think he recorded with Leo Records. -----Original Message----- From: xxxxxxx@xxx.xxx [mailto:xxxxxxx@xxx.xxx] Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2004 10:32 AM To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Subject: Re: [microsound] prepared piano In a message dated 6/14/04 8:32:15 PM, xxx@xxxxxx.xx writes: << Try and find recordings by Sakis Papadimitriou (Greece). He produced some excellent work with prepared piano (improvisation) in the 80s. >> That's right, I forgot about that guy. New Albion label was it? Here's another name from the past (apologies if he's still around): Stephen Scott. Admittedly, *bowed* piano's not the same as *prepared* piano, but in either case we're not in Kansas anymore, piano-wise, which may have been the original poster's interest.... D. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? 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Tue Jun 15 13:58:28 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30694-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.75]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 15 Jun 2004 09:58:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 15 Jun 2004 09:58:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 2141 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 15 Jun 2004 13:58:30 +0000 Received: (qmail 2131 invoked from network); Tue, 15 Jun 2004 13:58:29 +0000 Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 16:06:56 +0200 From: Marco Messina <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] mousikelab To: "microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BCF4CF20.8E1A%xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.1.2418 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx Hello everybody, you are invited to see the exposure of Sébastien Hayez on our artgallery http://www.mousikelab.it/artgallery/ndex.htm http://www.mousikelab.com/ all the best marco messina p.s. 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Tue Jun 15 13:12:24 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30692-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.74]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 15 Jun 2004 09:12:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 15 Jun 2004 09:12:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 85730 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 15 Jun 2004 13:12:25 +0000 Received: (qmail 85718 invoked from network); Tue, 15 Jun 2004 13:12:25 +0000 Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 09:11:23 -0400 From: Michal Seta <xxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Mac vs PC (linux information) In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxx.xxx.xx-x-xxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.2.93 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Lines: 127 References: <xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx "Tjeerd Sietsma" <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx> writes: > Too bad there is no professional audio tool for linux yet, afaik. What is a professional audio tool? Are you talking about sound quality? Or eye candy? Or the aboundance of ready made solutions? > Rezound looks > pretty neat, just like Audacity, but it just doesn't provide the needs > of pro's. About 10 years ago I started using Sound Designer. It was caonsidered a professional level sample editor. I think the 2 above mentioned apps provide more functionnality. I don't think, however, that the notion of professionalism changed radically in the past 10 years. > E.g. you don't want to use it in a studio. I have been in studios running Windoes. You don't want to you use it in the studio. I could never understand how people were able to keep PCs with windoes in the studio for other purposes than running WordPerfect. I know only one Windows user who claims to have a stable system and is able to manage an audio latency at around 10ms. However, he lives much to far for me to actually go and check it out because I find it hard to believe. My own experience with windows (I tried the free version of ProTools and cakewalk 9.1, I believe) was very disappointing. > Just like lovable PD it can > do a lot > but it isn't ready yet, PD's documentation is incomplete just like it's > functio- > nality. Developers spend most of the time getting it just to work. Please, get in touch with reality. The developers are constantly working on improving it. Yes, pd has flaws. So does commercial software. The only difference is that if you find a bug or a flaw in an open source software there is a very strong chance that there will be a fix within days. In case of commercial sofwtare you usually have to wait to the next update or upgrade and sometimes you have to pay extra just to have a vital bug squished (or a few plus a new feature thrown in to soap your eyes). But there are herds of musicians/artists using pd in production. BTW, what do you mean by incomplete functionnality in PD? > In > contrast > to commercial applications like Max/MSP. I started usig Max/MSP in the MacOS8.x days. But the time of MacOS9 but well before MacOSX I found MaxMSP rather unstable for live performance. Everyone at my school was using it and everyone was struggling to make the thing survive a performance. Everyone had the unpleasant experience of MaxMSP hanging the whole system during a performance. Perhaps that is what you think is related to professionalism but I quickly found that I could run an audio patch on my linux box with pd for _days_ without shutting off the audio and I'd have no crash, no glitch. For me, the choice was obvious. I am not saying that pd is perfect. It in fact needs a major overhaul of some code but none of the developers claims it to be a professional grade sofwtare, either. It's still in alpha, experimental release. But it costs you nothing. > This is why serious musicians > and audio- > philes still use Windows and/or MacOS. Because those have been around for a long time and spend a lot of money for marketing campaigns. And one of those comes pre-installed when you buy a computer at your favorite store. And you are not given a choice! If you want linux, you have to install it yourself or ask specifically for linux at the retail store (and not all of them provide linux systems). It is true that serious sofwtare companies provide well packaged products with aboundant documentation. They have the cash for it. Those musicians who just want to plug and p[l][r]ay will naturally choose the mainstream OS with mainstream applications. But that does not make them any more serious than those who want to venture into the OS and apps that give them freedom and a DIY environment for setting up their virtual gear the way they want. > Another reason is that most hardware manufacturers provide drivers for > Windows > and Macintosh only. > This means that with only linux you can't program > e.g. your > Roland synth or Nord Modular. derek covered that in his post. > In this perspecive linux is like a decennium behind commercial > alternatives. Not linux. Linux is in fact a very stable and efficient OS. Some audio applications are behind. Rosegarden is what Cubase was about 5-6 years ago. Ardour has a feature-set more attractive than Nuendo (minus the MIDI sequencing) and soon it will be stable enough to actually use it in production. Lilypond beats the socks off any notation package currently available if you can stand the text based input (although Rosegarden and NoteEdit are good frontends). And is well documented, too. There are many other examples. When you say that this or that sofwtare is so&so many years behind the commercial alternative keep in mind that usually it's only a handful of developers working on it who don't have the budget. I think this is impressive and merits some kind of user support. > > I myself am thinking of switching from Windows to linux permanently now Good luck! > but this > is a choice everyone should make him/herself. That is correct. -- _ __ __ (_)___ Michal Seta / \/ \ _/^ _| / V |_ \ @creazone.32k.org (___/V\___|_|___/ http://www.[creazone]|[noonereceiving].32k.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? 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Miércoles. 15:00-16:00. 100.4 Fm www.circulobellasartes.com Radio Autònoma. Martes-Jueves-Sabado. 18:00-19:00 www.uam.es/radio Radio Enlace. Martes. 19:00-20:00. 107.5 Fm. Madrid Contenidos Onda Sonora (Radio Sesiones Experimentales) 16-06-04 01. @C Track: 20 Album: V3 Label: Cronica Comenzamos la sesion de esta semana desde el vecino Portugal que por unas u otras razones se encuentra en este año 2004 en el centro del candelero, arrancamos con las ultimas novedades del sello crónica electronica, tercer trabajo de un notable duo llamado @c, que incluye un cd con pista de video que documenta sus actividades a lo largo del pasado 2003 con material procedente de 3 de sus actuaciones y una pista de video a cargo de la artista visual Lia, asociada al proyecto 02. RAN SLAVIN Track: Dirty Needles Album: Tropical Agent Label: Cronica Segunda novedad del sello portugues crónica para esta semana, el segundo volumen de su serie Product, basada en la confrontación de dos trabajos diferentes de un mismo artista, en este caso Ran Slavin y su Tropical Agent 03. JASON KAHN AND JON MUELLER Track: 1 Album: Papercuts Label: Crouton Colaboracion entre dos grandes percusionistas de la escena experimental internacional, el neoyorquino residente en Suiza Jason Kahn con su integracion entre electronica y percusion, y Jon Mueller, tambien percusionista en muchos y variados generos musicales pero a la vez compositor para cine y danza y así mismo director del sello Crouton music, encargado de editar este trabajo 04. JON MUELLER / BHOB RAINEY / JIM SCHOENECKER Track: Shredded Paper, But Album: - Label: Crouton De nuevo Jon Mueller de Crouton Music, en este caso con nuevos compañeros de reparto, Bhob Rainey, de Nmperign y el musico electronico Jim Schoenecker. Esta grabacion proviene de una sesion conjunta de los 3 musicos registrada en una sala a 40 grados de temperatura, despues de un viaje de 17 horas hasta Boston el verano pasado, el resultado de la explosiva mezcla entre el calor, el cansancio, la cafeina y el aburrimiento 05. STENDEC Track: Black State Special Album: A Study Of 'And' Label: Expanding Desde el sello britanico Expanding Records nos llega el album de debut de Stendec, nombre bajo el cual se esconden los dos directores de Expanding, Paul Merritt y Ben Edwards (Benge) 06. CATARINA PRATTER Track: 3 Album: Maybe You Don’t Exist Label: SueMi Gracias a nuestros amigos de Dense Promotion en Berlin nos llega el primer trabajo de la artista vienesa Catarina Pratter para el sello Suemi, también Berlinés 07. THE GASMAN Track: Imodium Album: Children Of Mu Label: Planet Mu Ultima compilacion del sello de Mike Paradinas Uziq, publicada este mismo lunes en formato doble con el titulo Children Of Mu, Children, chicos en los que se encuentra artistas como Joseph Nothing, Datachi, Ambulance, Guilty Connector, Hrvatski, Luke Vibert, Venetian Snares o quien va a sonar, el britanico Christopher Reeves , aka The Gasman, que debutaba en largo el pasado año en Planet Mu y que aparece aquí con un excelente tema basado en la manipulacion de voces 08. MARTIN SIEWERT Track: No Nedd To Be Lonesome Album: No Need To Be Lonesome Label: Mosz Artista aleman residente en Viena con su primer trabajo en solitario tras varios años de colaboraciones con multitud de artistas de la escena electroacustica internacional. Sin embargo este disco contrasta con todo su trabajo anterior por el renovado interes del artista en las melodias y los ritmos 09. O.LAMM REMIXING SUTEKH Track: Privacy, Story Of The Bulb Suite, Pt II/III + Tape Coda Album: Six Residua Label: Active Suspension Colaboracion entre el parisino Olivier Lamm y el artista de San Francisco Sutekh, dos artistas electronicos que por primera vez introducen instrumentación organica para este Six Residua 10. HYPO Track: Relax Max Msp Album: Random Veneziano Label: Active Suspension Musica de otro artista electronico parisino, Anthony Keyeux, aka Hypo, que retorna tras dos años de silencio con Random Veneziano 11. PITA Track: HBR 64507 Album: Opera Remixes Label: Cubicfabric Disco de remezclas plagado de grandes nombres, los remezclados son el trio electroacustico sueco Tape, que la verdad nos parece que de electroacustico tiene poco, y su primer disco Opera, que editaba el sello suizo Hapna el año pasado.Entre los remezcladores se encuentran artistas como David Grubbs. Hazard, Oren Ambarchi, Josh Abrams, Stephan Mathieu o, el que va a sonar, el inquietante Peter Rehberg, aka Pita 12. RYOKO KUWAJIMA REMIXING BIDNER / MARTINEK Track: Bonus Track Album: An American Band Friendly Fire Label: Taliban El duo de electropop austriaco llamado Bidner / Martinek incluye en su ultimo album un excelente bonus track en clave ruidista de la artista japonesa Ryoko Kuwajima , colaboradora habitual de Kaffe Matthews y Antye Greie-Fuchs, aka Agf 13. SCHWARZ Track: Beauty Must Die Album: Arty party Label: Astro Esta semana nos despedimos con el trio murciano Schwarz, que la semana pasada presentaba en Madrid nuevo disco, el cuarto de su carrera, llamado Arty Party, publicado a través de Astro Discos English Version Contents Onda Sonora (Experimental Radio Sessions) 16-06-04 01. @C Track: 20 Album: V3 Label: Cronica New from Portuguese label Cronica Electronica: Third work by a duo called @c, a cd with video track documenting their activities in 2003, with material from three different live performances including some guest collaborations and Lia’s visuals 02. RAN SLAVIN Track: Dirty Needles Album: Tropical Agent Label: Cronica Second volume of Cronica’s Product series, based in the confrontation of two different works by a single artist, in this case Ran Slavin’s “Tropical Agent/Ears in Water” 03. JASON KAHN AND JON MUELLER Track: 1 Album: Papercuts Label: Croutonerc Papercuts” is a collaboration between two great percussionists in the international experimental scene: Jason Kahn integrating electronics in percussion and Jon Mueller, who has worked in different genres and composed music for films and dance performances. In the meantime, he runs the Crouton Music label 04. JON MUELLER / BHOB RAINEY / JIM SCHOENECKER Track: Shredded Paper, But Album: - Label: Crouton Again percussionist Jon Mueller in this case with new partners in the cast: Bhob Rainey of Nmperign and the electronic musician Jim Schoenecker. This recording comes from a session of the trio last summer in Boston, result of a long journey and a hot season 05. STENDEC Track: Black State Special Album: A Study Of 'And' Label: Expanding From the British label Expanding Records comes the debut of Stendec, name under which the directors of the label work together: Paul Merritt and Ben Edwards (Benge) 06. CATARINA PRATTER Track: 3 Album: Maybe You Don’t Exist Label: SueMi Thanks to our friends of Dense Promotion in Berlin, this is the first work of the Vienesse artist Catarina Pratter, released by the also Berlinese label SueMi 07. THE GASMAN Track: Imodium Album: Children Of Mu Label: Planet Mu Last compilation of Planet Mu, released this week in double format and titled “Children of Mu”. Between them, Joseph Nothing, Datach’i, Ambulance, Guilty Connector, Hrvatski, Luke Vibert, Venetian Snares... or The Gasman, Christopher Reeves, who debuted last year in Planet Mu 08. MARTIN SIEWERT Track: No Nedd To Be Lonesome Album: No Need To Be Lonesome Label: Mosz First solo work by Martin Siewert, after some years of collaborations with a number of artists in the international electroacoustic scene. “No Need To Be Lonesome”, however, contrasts with his previous material for the artist’s renewed interest in melodies and grooves 09. O.LAMM REMIXING SUTEKH Track: Privacy, Story Of The Bulb Suite, Pt II/III + Tape Coda Album: Six Residua Label: Active Suspension The new releases by Active Suspension; first, the collaboration between Paris’ Olivier Lamm and San Francisco’s Sutekh, two electronic artists introducing organic instrumentation for the first time together 10. HYPO Track: Relax Max Msp Album: Random Veneziano Label: Active Suspension Still in Active Suspension, this is the music of another electronic artist coming from Paris, Anthony Keyeux aka Hypo, who returns after two years of silence 11. PITA Track: HBR 64507 Album: Opera Remixes Label: Cubicfabric From CubicFabric offices in Tokyo, we stop in this remix album full of celebrated names. The remixed are the Swedish electroacoustic trio Tape and their first cd “Opera”(Häpna). Between the remixers: Hazard, David Grubbs, Oren Ambarchi, Josh Abrams, Stephan Mathieu and Peter Rehberg, Pita 12. RYOKO KUWAJIMA REMIXING BIDNER / MARTINEK Track: Bonus Track Album: An American Band Friendly Fire Label: Taliban Another remix. In this case, Austrian electro-pop duo Bidner/Martinek, whose last album includes a bonus track remixed by Ryoko Kuwajima, collaborator of Kaffe Matthews and Antye Greie-Fuchs 13. SCHWARZ Track: Beauty Must Die Album: Arty party Label: Astro This week we close Onda Sonora with the Spanish psychedelic pop band Schwarz, presenting their new album last week in Madrid, ”Arty Party” (Astro Discos). Different cover art depending on the version: Economic, Digipack or 10’ Nota: Este correo no ha sido solicitado, pero hemos considerado que te podría interesar. Si no quieres volver a recibir mensajes de nuestro programa, devuélvelo poniendo "Bórrame" en el asunto. Inmediatamente te borraremos del mailing. 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Tue Jun 15 11:14:07 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30690-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.69]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 15 Jun 2004 07:14:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 15 Jun 2004 07:14:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 57616 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 15 Jun 2004 11:14:06 +0000 Received: (qmail 57606 invoked from network); Tue, 15 Jun 2004 11:14:06 +0000 Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 13:17:10 +0200 From: derek holzer <xxxxx@x-x.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Mac vs PC (linux information) In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@x-x.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.6 (X11/20040502) X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx Tjeerd Sietsma wrote: > Too bad there is no professional audio tool for linux yet, afaik. When Ardour hits 1.0 release, you may think again. > Rezound looks > pretty neat, just like Audacity, but it just doesn't provide the needs > of pro's. Which are? > E.g. you don't want to use it in a studio. Just like lovable PD it can > do a lot > but it isn't ready yet, PD's documentation is incomplete just like it's > functio- > nality. Developers spend most of the time getting it just to work. In > contrast > to commercial applications like Max/MSP. This is why serious musicians > and audio- > philes still use Windows and/or MacOS. I think once you understand how digital audio works, PD is almost identical in functionality to Max/MSP. What it lacks are only the high-level abstractions for people who just want to plug-and-play with other people's sliders instead of design their own sounds, and the in-depth documentation for newbies. Beyond that, they are the same thing. Except that one costs $500, of course. I consider that $500 the price you *should* pay for somebody else to write your patches for you and explain the documentation to you on a mailing list so that you don't even have to read it yourself ;-) I guess that's why "serious musicians and audiophiles" still have to have well-paying day jobs. > Another reason is that most hardware manufacturers provide drivers for > Windows > and Macintosh only. This means that with only linux you can't program > e.g. your > Roland synth or Nord Modular. > In this perspecive linux is like a decennium behind commercial > alternatives. The fault of this, of course, is not with the Linux developers, who would love to support every piece of hardware, but with the hardware manufacturers, who refuse to provide documentation for their gear in a public way. Funny how, back in the tubes and resistors era, *every* piece of hardware was "open hardware". They all came with a manual and a detailed schematic, so that if something broke, you or the TV repairman next door could fix it. Nowadays, these companies are so paranoid about their "trade secrets" that many pieces of hardware will never be supported without some hacker having to reverse-engineer the entire thing and build drivers from scratch [as was the case with NVidia chipsets, video and ethernet cards, or the famous XBox and Playstation hacks]. I know that the policy of a company towards releasing information about its products is a *big* factor in my decisions as a consumer. And I buy a lot of hardware each year for different projects, and make hardware recommendations to even more people, so I'd like to think my view matters. OTOH, I am suprised daily by what people code in Linux for free, and what you *can* actually get working. I've been able to plug-and-play quite a few of my friends' silly little consumer gadgets [cameras, mp3 players, etc], largely because there is also an interest on the side of some programmer somewhere to get it working for themselves. If there were enough interest, and by this I mean enough electronic musicians using Linux together with certain pieces of hardware, you would see support for things like your Roland or Nord happening in no time at all. > I myself am thinking of switching from Windows to linux permanently now > but this > is a choice everyone should make him/herself. Of course. Enlightenment comes from within. [nyuck nyuck!] d. -- derek holzer ::: http://www.umatic.nl ---Oblique Strategy # 68: "Faced with a choice, do both" --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Jun 15 09:59:31 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30689-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.69]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 15 Jun 2004 05:59:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 15 Jun 2004 05:59:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 38936 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 15 Jun 2004 09:59:37 +0000 Received: (qmail 38926 invoked from network); Tue, 15 Jun 2004 09:59:37 +0000 Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 10:59:31 +0100 From: Tjeerd Sietsma <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Music on Ataris In-reply-to: <BCEA487C.62D1%xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME::Lite 1.4 (F2.72; T1.001; A1.62; B3.01; Q3.01) Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Sasl-Enc: h0HXSiYG4W2ymeeZBleu6w 1087293571 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <BCEA487C.62D1%xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx Great links!! I own an old Atari 2600, already made my own cartridge with 100 games together with Sprite, even a gameboy tracker for PC + Gameboy, perhaps I can make my own Atari 2600 tracker *smile* greetz, Tjeerd On Mon, 07 Jun 2004 16:29:49 -0400, "Al C" <xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> said: > on 6/7/04 4:51 AM, Matthew at xxxxxxxx@xxx.xx.xxx wrote: > > > Does anyone have any experience with music or sound on the old atari > > computers (particularly the 800xl, and the console-ish 2600). I heard about > > it somewhere, but I haven't had any luck finding programs or resources for > > it. > > > > -matt > > ahh... > you just reminded me of where it all started for me. here is a link to a > vast resource of atari hard/software. they should be able to sort you out > with all of your atari needs. > > omnid > > http://www.myatari.com/b&ctest/history.htm > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > -- Tjeerd Sietsma xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Jun 15 09:36:36 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30688-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.72]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 15 Jun 2004 05:36:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 15 Jun 2004 05:36:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 34207 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 15 Jun 2004 09:36:41 +0000 Received: (qmail 34197 invoked from network); Tue, 15 Jun 2004 09:36:41 +0000 Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 10:36:34 +0100 From: Tjeerd Sietsma <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Mac vs PC (linux information) In-reply-to: <xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME::Lite 1.4 (F2.72; T1.001; A1.62; B3.01; Q3.01) Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Sasl-Enc: 9DTM1YEl8j3IcAadBluYuw 1087292194 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx > >>But, unfortunately, I still make music using windows since most of my work > >>is made in a wave-editor, SoundForge, and I couldn't really find anything > >>good as SF on Linux. > >>I think the best I found is Rezound: http://rezound.sourceforge.net/ > >>But this is more a problem connected to my composition approach. > > > >Depending on your needs, and how much a slick-looking GUI is important to > >you, > > Relative importance... > I'd like to find something with a wide number of effects and processings > like soundforge, that supports previewing and with a practical > copy/cut/paste tool. Too bad there is no professional audio tool for linux yet, afaik. Rezound looks pretty neat, just like Audacity, but it just doesn't provide the needs of pro's. E.g. you don't want to use it in a studio. Just like lovable PD it can do a lot but it isn't ready yet, PD's documentation is incomplete just like it's functio- nality. Developers spend most of the time getting it just to work. In contrast to commercial applications like Max/MSP. This is why serious musicians and audio- philes still use Windows and/or MacOS. Another reason is that most hardware manufacturers provide drivers for Windows and Macintosh only. This means that with only linux you can't program e.g. your Roland synth or Nord Modular. In this perspecive linux is like a decennium behind commercial alternatives. I myself am thinking of switching from Windows to linux permanently now but this is a choice everyone should make him/herself. greetz, Tjeerd -- Tjeerd Sietsma xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Jun 15 08:32:07 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30687-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.67]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 15 Jun 2004 04:32:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 15 Jun 2004 04:32:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 22841 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 15 Jun 2004 08:32:12 +0000 Received: (qmail 22831 invoked from network); Tue, 15 Jun 2004 08:32:11 +0000 Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 08:32:06 +0000 From: stephane CANCEL <xxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: RE: [microsound] prepared piano X-Originating-IP: [195.101.118.14] X-Sender: xxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Bcc: Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Originating-Email: [xxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Jun 2004 08:32:06.0600 (UTC) FILETIME=[3DFF9480:01C452B3] Hello Benoit Delbecq "piano book" with Steve Arguelles is a mixture between prepared piano and electro acoustic treatment. Also some tracks by Bojan Z on his piano solo recording (beautiful) >From: "W.C.Schrimshaw" <x.x.xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx.xx> >Reply-To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> >To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >Subject: RE: [microsound] prepared piano >Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 12:33:30 +0100 > >Agusti Fernandez plays prepared piano as part of the Evan Parker Electro >Acoustic ensemble. > >http://www.altho.org >arts community > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >website: http://www.microsound.org > _________________________________________________________________ Recevez par e-mail des émoticônes pour MSN Messenger http://g.msn.fr/FR1001/2275?url=http://www.msn.fr/ilovemessenger/premium/Default.asp?Ath=f --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Jun 15 07:32:32 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30686-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.78]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 15 Jun 2004 03:32:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 15 Jun 2004 03:32:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 11158 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 15 Jun 2004 07:32:37 +0000 Received: (qmail 11142 invoked from network); Tue, 15 Jun 2004 07:32:36 +0000 Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 03:32:25 -0400 (EDT) From: xxxxxxx@xxx.xxx Subject: Re: [microsound] prepared piano To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xx.xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx In a message dated 6/14/04 8:32:15 PM, xxx@xxxxxx.xx writes: << Try and find recordings by Sakis Papadimitriou (Greece). He produced some excellent work with prepared piano (improvisation) in the 80s. >> That's right, I forgot about that guy. New Albion label was it? Here's another name from the past (apologies if he's still around): Stephen Scott. Admittedly, *bowed* piano's not the same as *prepared* piano, but in either case we're not in Kansas anymore, piano-wise, which may have been the original poster's interest.... D. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Jun 15 01:00:39 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30684-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta10.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta10.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.85]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 21:00:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta10.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 14 Jun 2004 21:00:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 19855 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 15 Jun 2004 01:00:41 +0000 Received: (qmail 19845 invoked from network); Tue, 15 Jun 2004 01:00:40 +0000 Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 21:00:49 -0400 From: vze26m98 <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Timetravel, was: insts for digital treatment In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx@xx.xxx.xxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mailsmith 1.1.6 (Bluto) Content-type: text/plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx On 6/13/04 at 9:24 PM, Malte Steiner <xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> wrote: > oops timetravel, answering a post from 1904 :) Wouldn't have been looking at the nabratu for the last 20 minutes without the tear in the tissue... 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Mon Jun 14 22:28:20 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30683-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.75]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 18:28:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 14 Jun 2004 18:28:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 69457 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 14 Jun 2004 22:28:21 +0000 Received: (qmail 69447 invoked from network); Mon, 14 Jun 2004 22:28:21 +0000 Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 18:32:33 -0400 From: Al C <xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] prepared piano In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxxx.xx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BCF39FC1.63A9%xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx > hello everybody > I'm looking for music with prepared pianos (or other instruments if it has > been done). > ___________________________________ > | Théophraste Peeble | Not to toot my own horn but try "New Forms for Piano & Prepared Guitar" by Albert Casais & Hal McGee on the HalTapes label. You can find the disc here: http://hometown.aol.com/haltapes1/page8.html best, albert --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Jun 14 22:05:57 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30682-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.75]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 18:05:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 14 Jun 2004 18:05:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 60711 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 14 Jun 2004 22:05:50 +0000 Received: (qmail 60698 invoked from network); Mon, 14 Jun 2004 22:05:49 +0000 Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 23:05:47 +0100 From: ". m u r m e r ." <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] [playlist] framework - 11.06.04 To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <006f01c4525b$bf840b60$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_gH2IinpEuCTQu4/VSZiXbA)" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_gH2IinpEuCTQu4/VSZiXbA) Content-Type: text/plain; Charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit framework broadcasts live alternate fridays on resonance104.4fm in london (uk) or worldwide on http://www.resonancefm.com between 8:30 and 9:30pm bst, and repeated the following wednesday between 11:00am and 12:00 noon bst next live broadcast: 25.06.04 ~ time zone converter: http://www.worldtimeserver.com/?h=8&mn=30&ap=pm&mo=6&d=25&y=2004&f=GB RESONANCE FM'S PROGRAMMING IS PRODUCED ENTIRELY BY VOLUNTEERS; PLEASE HELP US TO CONTINUE BY MAKING A DONATION. 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THANK YOU! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- framework - phonography/field recording; contextual and decontextualized sound activity presented by patrick mcginley this edition was held together by a skeleton of recordings by new artist part of me: apparatus. he sent us a cd half full of field recordings from his home in the mountains of north carolina, and half full of composed material. these were intertwined with several tracks from two exquisite new releases from the italian label bowindo, one by 3/4HadBeenEliminated, the other by the duo of giuseppe ielasi and renato rinaldi, oreledigneur. rarely do i hear composition of mixed instrumental and concrete source that works as smoothly as these two - check them out! the show began and ended with individual long pieces of particular note, both by artists we've featured before: new unreleased work by cria cuervos, and another track from the dropp ensemble album, the empire builders. in our next edition, the 25th of june, framework will be participating in a week of events here in london (including concerts, films, installations, lectures, meals and radio broadcasts) by the great hafler trio. the show (and others that week on resonancefm) will be dedicated entirely to specially produced material, tying in with all the other events. please see the h3o website for more info: http://www.brainwashed.com/h3o/Live/horsey-horsey/ again, we are always looking for material for the show, whether raw field recordings, field recording based composition or introduction submissions. send material, released or not, on any format, to the address below. we are also hoping to have live performances as often as possible, so if you are in or passing through london please get in touch! framework 31 nevill road london n16 8sl uk xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 28.05.04 this edition will be rebroadcast this wednesday, 16.06.04, at 11:00am bst ~ time zone converter: http://www.worldtimeserver.com/?h=11&mn=00&ap=am&mo=6&d=16&y=2004&f=GB (artist / title / album / label) part of me: apparatus / framework intro introduction recorded in the rainy mountains of north carolina by richard linville, aka part of me: apparatus xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx, http://www.tibprod.com/poma cria cuervos / foret, foret, des yeux fourmillent / l'ombilic des limbes / - as yet unreleased material composed from the sounds of insects and decaying vinyl xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx, http://www.criacuervos.4t.com part of me: apparatus / rainy day rhythm / - / - first of a series of contrasting rain recordings, this one slow and hard onto metal mixed with the more veiled tones of cria cuervos xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx, http://www.tibprod.com/poma part of me: apparatus / rain compare edit / - / - moving on to a steadier downpour which led us out of the mists of cria cuervos into the warmer territory or impossible rain... xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx, http://www.tibprod.com/poma 3/4HadBeenEliminated / getsemany fields under impossible rain / 3Quarters HadBeenEliminated / bowindo rhythmic machines and sounds reminiscent of trains and stations mix with glass harmonicas and string drones in the albums opening track http://www.bowindorecordings.com giuseppe ielasi & renato rinaldi / - / oreledigneur / bowindo the most minimal track from this cd, quiet ticks and scratches contrast the warm tones of 3Quarters http://www.bowindorecordings.com 3/4HadBeenEliminated / bench/frozen & bedrock / 3Quarters HadBeenEliminated / bowindo the closing section from this album leads us through buzzing fields to unidentified textures and back into warm drones http://www.bowindorecordings.com part of me: apparatus / ice storm 1-25-04 / - / - another example of north carolinian precipitation, this one accompanied by insects, birds, and the occasional cat and passing car xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx, http://www.tibprod.com/poma giuseppe ielasi & renato rinaldi / - / oreledigneur / bowindo carolinian rain gives way to italian rain, metal objects, and clear tones on the opener of this album http://www.bowindorecordings.com part of me: apparatus / field 2 mixed / - / - after many raw recordings we finally sample a composition: untreated buzzes and hums carefully constructed and layered xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx, http://www.tibprod.com/poma the dropp ensemble / the empire builders / dessutom / longbox recordings a series of deep metallic pulses gives way for the evenings last rain storm, this time provided by the collaboration of eric la casa http://www.longboxrecordings.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- framework intro submissions: 1) take yourself and an audio recording device to a location of your choice 2) record for AT LEAST 1 minute before you - 3) read the following text: welcome to framework. framework is a show consecrated to field recording, and it's use in composition. field recording, phonography, the art of sound-hunting; open your ears and listen! 4) continue your recording for AT LEAST 2 minutes after you've finish speaking 5) send the recording on any format to the address above, or as an mp3 via email thanks! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- the framework 2003 cd is now available directly from the resonancefm online shop, along with a selection of other benefit cds, t-shirts, and general paraphernalia. drop in here to have a look: http://www.resonancefm.com/shop.php framework 2003 resonancefm benefit cd featuring highlights from the year's broadcasting rob grant & melanie clifford / framework intro thomas dimuzio / unearth & lift and spear / sonicism / rrrecords chris watson / river mara at night / stepping into the dark / touch johannes helden / - / sketchbook / trente oiseaux toy bizarre / - / kdi dctb 116 / absurd murmer / liquid solid / definition / absurd jgrzinich & seth nehil / the distant edge / confluence / intransitive seth nehil & jgrzinich / the mirrored corner / stria / erewhon annette lissauer / framework intro toby paddock / air, surface and magnetic vibrations / - / - steve roden / - / resonant cities / trente oiseaux francisco lopez / untitled #101 / untitled (2000) / ignis projekt mnortham / ancient sewer pipe, valletta, malta / phonography.org 5 / phonography.org the quiet american / donkey trains leaving marpha, nepal / phonography.org 4 / phonography.org steve barsotti / trainyard presence / phonography.org 5 / phonography.org k. m. krebs / jericho sailing center (nautical gamelan) / phonography.org 4 / phonography.org david daniell / highway 371, forty miles south of farmington, january 19, 1998, 2:25 pm / sem / antiopic joyce hinterding / - / spectral / antiopic/sigma editions david daniell / dixon lake road, july 31, 1999, 5:45 am / sem / antiopic tacet ncv / live on framework jean-luc guionnet & bertrand denzler / live on framework dallas simpson / framework intro -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- --Boundary_(ID_gH2IinpEuCTQu4/VSZiXbA)-- From ???@??? Mon Jun 14 21:39:29 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30681-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.75]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 17:39:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 14 Jun 2004 17:35:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 46179 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 14 Jun 2004 21:35:08 +0000 Received: (qmail 46153 invoked from network); Mon, 14 Jun 2004 21:35:07 +0000 Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 00:40:44 +0300 From: christos carras <xxx@xxxxxx.xx> Subject: RE: [microsound] prepared piano In-reply-to: <002001c451a1$625f1700$xxxxxxxx@xxxx.xx> To: 'microsound' <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>, =?iso-8859-1?Q?'Th=E9ophraste_Peeble'?= <xxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Thread-index: AcRRoVftVsN8cn65TwqZT4WdHavpJQAtsWsg Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx Try and find recordings by Sakis Papadimitriou (Greece). He produced some excellent work with prepared piano (improvisation) in the 80s. -----Original Message----- From: Théophraste Peeble [mailto:xxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xx] Sent: Monday, June 14, 2004 2:52 AM To: microsound Subject: [microsound] prepared piano hello everybody I'm looking for music with prepared pianos (or other instruments if it has been done). I only know John Cage's work... I think Aphex Twin too uses prepared pianos on his Druqks albums - but he don't play they're controlled by computer. So if you know some other musicians who play with prepared instruments (what could be a prepared synthetizer ?), please let me know about it. Thanks ___________________________________ | Théophraste Peeble | | http://mapage.noos.fr/verchonfourgu | |__________________________________ | --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Jun 14 23:08:42 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30680-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.78]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 19:08:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 14 Jun 2004 15:35:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 4202 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 14 Jun 2004 19:35:05 +0000 Received: (qmail 4192 invoked from network); Mon, 14 Jun 2004 19:35:05 +0000 Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 14:47:11 -0500 From: jfrede <xxxxxx@xxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Baltimore / DC contacts? To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: xxxxxx@xxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxx.xxx Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: <IMail v8.05> Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx im going to be in Maryland mid july and would love to set up a show while im in the area,,, anyone on the list that books in Baltimore or DC or if you have contacts you could pass my way that would be great,, off list please xxxxxx@xxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxx.xxx than ks.. j.frede current loction:los angeles http://www.jfrede.com http://www.lomohomes.com/j.frede out.june.23 | j.frede/scanner | "j.frede rewrites scanners diary" | CD Digipak | http://www.current-recordings.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Jun 14 23:22:17 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30679-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta10.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta10.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.85]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 19:22:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta10.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 14 Jun 2004 15:07:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 94735 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 14 Jun 2004 19:07:55 +0000 Received: (qmail 94725 invoked from network); Mon, 14 Jun 2004 19:07:55 +0000 Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 04:07:48 +0900 From: vokoi kazunovsky <xxxxxxx@xxxx-xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] s.w.o are looking for the venue In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BCF42689.42ED%xxxxxxx@xxxx-xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.0.6 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx hello, to all. The SINE WAVE ORCHESTRA got a Honorary Mention of Digital Musics in Prix Ars Electronica 2004. and now, they are looking for the venue that it can play in Holland. date will be after Ars Electronica was completed. about swo http://swo.jp/ if you interested in this project, please contact me offlist. thanks, vokoi --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Jun 15 06:05:55 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30685-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.42]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 15 Jun 2004 02:05:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 15 Jun 2004 02:05:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 92216 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 15 Jun 2004 06:05:59 +0000 Received: (qmail 92206 invoked from network); Tue, 15 Jun 2004 06:05:58 +0000 Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 20:56:52 +0200 From: bastien remion <xxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] Playlist "electrons libres-Futur (re)mix" To: Forum <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: YAM 2.4p1 [020] AmigaOS E-mail Client (c) 2000-2003 by YAM Open Source Team - http://www.yam.ch/ Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx Hello everybody all the microsounder's...Como allez-vous??? WELCOME TO THE ELECTRONS LIBRES AND FUTURE (re)<MIX NEWSLETTER -----------------------------------ELECTRONS----------------- ---------------LIBRES------------------------------------ --------------------POWERPLAY ----------------------------------- No Emission!!! See ya In July for the "Summer Complexity party time" :-) -------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------FUTURE (re)MIX------------------ +++++++++-----13h/15h30---------------01/05/04******-----+-+-+++- ------------------------------------------- Check it the june playlist very soon @ http://www.radiobeton.com Part1....Is Back In time...It's THE BRAIN #52 All playlist : http://lautre.thebrain.net Intro by Yotoko (Delsin records, Rushhour) 1-Yotoko: Heaven & Earth (Delsin records) -Lp "Wet Ink" 2-Cinematic Orchestra: Man with the movie camera[Domu mix] (Ninja Tune) -V/A "Zen remix" 3-Trevor Loveys: Planetary Vibes (Freerange records) -Lp "Intastella" 4-Riton: Bad Monkey (Grand Central, Pias) -Ep "Bad Monkey" Live @ Batofar the 21/06 for 12euros!!! 5-Wagon Christ: Sorry I make you lush (Ninja Tune) -Lp "Sorry I make you lush" 6-Cesar Mariano & Cia: Futebol de Bar [Original+ Heavy Usker mix] (Ether records) -V/A "Gilles Peterson in Brazil-Da Hora" 7-Lump: -Ep " 8-Daniel Bell: Squirrel Bait (Logistic) -Lp "Blip,Blurp,Bleep..." 9-Matthew Herbert: On your Feet (Accidental records) -Ep "on your feet" 10-Mr Oizo: Stunt (F.Com, Pias) -Ep "Stunt" 11-Tomas Jirku (Audio.Nl 022) -Ep "022" 12-James Thomasson:Rub (Textone 09) -V/A "Designated Drivers 2004" Download @ http://textone.org 13-Spasm:Cyra M (Telegraph, Logistic) -V/A "Post Office 2" 14-Apparat: Wooden [Anders Ilar remix] (Shitkatapult, la baleine) -Ep "Duplex remixes" 15-Huhta & Mascher: By the auguries of rookshaskovitch (Lebensfreude records Germany) -V/A Lebensfreude http://www.lebensfreude-berlin.de 16-Mr Magic: Rapattack 1980 (Stones Throw) -V/A "The Third Undheard-Connecticut Hip-hop 79-83" For your feet on fire: 15/06 man¹s best friend (sole) / bleubird 16/06 michael gendreau, tore honoré boe (handmade laptop), eric cordier (no output laptop) (voutes) 17/06 dj vadim (batofar) 17/06 tobias bernstrup live / daniel pflumm & kotaï live & dj set (nouveau casino) 17/06 john duncan / zbigniew karkowski / kouhei / rudolfeb.er / matsunaga (voutes) 17/06 detroit grand pubah (rex club) 17/06 goodiepal + jab mica och el / maider fortune (menagerie de verre) http://www.infamouslabels.com 18/06 sylvain chauveau frédéric nogray et cocoon (voutes) 19/06 Hallucinator(Basic Channel) + Javdiga (Rx-Tx records) + Philippe Petit (Bip-Hop records)...@ le Petit Faucheux in Tours (37) 20/06 rjd2 / meteorites / dictaphone / double u / hypo (parc andre citroen) free *21/06 un bon conseil : restez chez vous*, la merguez paty c'est pas du bon!!! Festival a ne pas louper: 16/06 -19/06 algorhythm (barcelone) http://www.absorb.org/algorhythm 17/06 -19/06 narso (barcelone) http://sonar.es 20/06 - 19/09 festival souslaplage (paris) http://www.souslaplage.com 1/07 - 3/07 offf (valencia) http://www.offf.ws 2/07 et 11/07 siestes electroniques (toulouse) http://www.les-siestes-electroniques.com 28 & 29/08 feed back 2 (paris) Heee ya.... Happyness all and "see the Sun" Bye!!! ----------------------------***--//---]]]-[------------------- Radio Béton 93.6/electrons libres 17h-18h /The Brain13h-14h /Future (re)Mix monday 14h-15h30 90 avenue Maginot 37100 Tours tèl:0247510383 http://www.radiobeton.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Jun 14 23:35:51 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30678-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.69]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 19:35:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 14 Jun 2004 14:03:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 76038 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 14 Jun 2004 18:03:29 +0000 Received: (qmail 76028 invoked from network); Mon, 14 Jun 2004 18:03:28 +0000 Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 11:03:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Praemedia <xxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Praemedia News for June 2004 To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx Praemedia News for June, 2004 Ye Olde Shoppe Well, we’ve finally gone and done it. After a few months of collecting some great CDs, and a few more months of Lance struggling desperately with his limited HTML skills to come up with something reasonable, we have completed building a brand new WEBSHOP. Not only do we carry our own Praemedia releases, but also releases from independent labels all over the world which currently fascinate us, including Flyrec, Improvised Music from Japan, Post-Concrete, Cycling 74, Accretions, Headz, Cubic Music and many, many more. Check it out at http://shop.praemedia.com Magic Maple, all and sundry Blevin Blectum’s ‘Magic Maple’ is going....well, like maple syrup. Weddings,computer crashes, volcanoes and other natural disasters have delayed its release, but we’re coming close folks. We’ll let you know when it is all ready. The new disc and dvd by Sagan is coming along fabulously as well, and should be released sometime before the year is out by Vague Terrain. Speaking (vaguely) of friends and family, cruise on over to http://brainwashed.com/matmos/news.html for some beautiful MP3s of Matmos in collaboration with Sagan, Wobbly, Thomas Dimuzio and many more. Jiffy Scuttler JIFFY SCUTTLER, the new monthly music series in San Francisco curated by Blevin Blectum, Lesser, Sean Rooney and Lance Grabmiller is going strong. The last Friday of every month at the RX gallery....oh hell, just go here - http://jiffyscuttler.praemedia.com for all the ever changing information. So far we’ve welcomed Carl Stone, Pepito, The Dick Slessig Combo, The Blithe Sons, Wobbly and Tim Perkis, with so much more to come! On June 25th, we’ll host William Winnant, Skizmatic and Circuit73 and coming up on July 30th will be Hrvatski, Kendra Juul and Philip Sherburne. Watch the JiffyScuttler website for all the latest news. Stars Like Fleas The new Stars Like Fleas website is looking fabulous! Check it out at http://slf.praemedia.com. Also, be sure to check out the crazy interview in Splendidzine (http://www.splendidezine.com/features/slf/) and Shannon Fields’ amazing ‘vision’ for the Diagram sound issue (http://thediagram.com/3_6/) which was recently mentioned in the Wire. Somewhere in the bowels of Brooklyn a new Stars Like Fleas album is taking shape. In the meantime, never pass up an opportunity to see Shannon Fields in rock-star guise as the guitarist for The Silent League (http://www.thesilentleague.com/). Tim Perkis Over the last few months, Tim has been playing fascinating duets all over the bay area with our good friend Wobbly. Rumor has it that some of this material will see the light of day as part of an expanded re-release of Tim’s “Perkolator” (originally released as a limited edition CDR in 1999 by Limited Sedition - http://www.limitedsedition.com/). Enjoy! Lance Grabmiller www.praemedia.com shop.praemedia.com __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Yahoo! 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Mon Jun 14 23:23:03 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30677-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.42]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 19:23:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 14 Jun 2004 14:00:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 73894 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 14 Jun 2004 18:00:15 +0000 Received: (qmail 73880 invoked from network); Mon, 14 Jun 2004 18:00:14 +0000 Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 14:00:08 -0400 (EDT) From: xxxxxxx@xxx.xxx Subject: Re: [microsound] prepared piano To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx In a message dated 6/14/04 9:29:30 AM, xxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx writes: << You might also check out Terry Riley. >> And in that vein, Peter Michael Hamel (on _Transition_ for example). For prepared guitar, Fred Frith et al (check out Frith's Guitar Solos series; there are others featured on GS 3, including Keith Rowe, who of course has a lot out under his own name as well as with AMM). D. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Jun 14 22:25:51 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30676-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.42]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 18:25:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 14 Jun 2004 12:08:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 40410 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 14 Jun 2004 16:08:55 +0000 Received: (qmail 40400 invoked from network); Mon, 14 Jun 2004 16:08:54 +0000 Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 18:08:52 +0200 From: Elke Moltrecht <xxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx REMINDER To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx-xxx.xxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6487.1 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Thread-topic: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx REMINDER Thread-index: AcRSKRAqKNu17L4JEdie+gBAlUVd4A== Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx SPRING INNOVATIONS Konzerte + Performaces + Filme Concerts + performances + film 27.Mai - 22. Juni 2004 mit / with: Ensemble UnitedBerlin + zeitkratzer + Ensemble Zwischentöne + Peter Ablinger + Stephen Clarke + Marc Sabat + Motria Sabat + Hans-Peter Schulz + Tomas Tranströmer + Sven Åke Johansson + Junko Wada + Michael Hirsch + Sophie Bansac + James Bush + Blood Oath + Ulrich Krieger + Thomas Koener + Kasper T. Toeplitz + Ulrich Maiss + Lou Simard + Graham Lewis (Wire) + Bruce Gilbert (Wire) + Carl Michael von Hausswolff + Rikard Sporrong + Manuela Bojadzijev (Kanak Attak) + Elliot Perkins (fka Phonem) + Dont Rhine (Ultra-red) Kompositionen von /compositions by: Yunkyung Lee + Armin Pommeranz + Stephan Winkler + Rainer Rubbert + Sergej Newski + C. P. First + Lutz Glandien + Reinhold Friedl + Maria de Alvear + Walter Zimmermann + Ernstalbrecht Stiebler + Kasper T. Toeplitz + Ulrich Krieger + Thomas Koener + Ulrich Maiss + Giancinto Scelsi + Steve Reich + Iannis Xenakis + Helmut Lachenmann + Lou Simard + Ingo Ahmels +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Weitere Informationen / further information: www.podewil.de +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Programm /program So 13.06. + 14.06, jeweils 20.00 BLOOD OATH - experimental music meets NoiseMetal 14.06. 01. Intro (Pötke) 02. Do you trust this man ? (Krieger, Maiß, Toeplitz, Pötke) 03. Black Hole (Krieger, Maiß, Toeplitz, Pötke) 04. Maknongan (Scelsi) 05. Bourgeoise Scum (Krieger, Maiß, Toeplitz, Pötke) 06. Music in Fifths (Glass) 07. Solo for Cello (Cage) 08. Brain Burner (Krieger, Maiß, Toeplitz, Pötke) 09. Black Noise (Toeplitz, Maiß, Krieger) 10. Who am I ? (Krieger, Maiß, Toeplitz, Pötke) 11. (Don't want) Your Values (Krieger, Maiß, Toeplitz, Pötke) Blood Oath: Ulrich Krieger (Stimme, elektrisches Saxophon),Ulrich Maiß (elektrisches Cello) Kasper T. Toeplitz (Bass, Computer), Uwe Pötke (Schlagzeug), Marcus Waibel (Sound) !!! Thomas Koener ist aus krankheitsbedingten Gründen kurzfristig ausgefallen Blood Oath - Experimental Music meets NoiseMetal ist ein Projekt von Ulrich Krieger. Gefördert durch die Initiative Neue Musik Berlin e.V. Zusatzveranstaltung: 18.06., 20.30 Uhr Klub transmediale.salon in Kooperation mit club transmediale Ultra-Red meets Kanak Attak - work in progress [THE TRANSISTORS TOUR] - Sound Art Activism and Migrant Resistance Soundperformances und Präsentationen von: 1. MANUELA BOJADZIJEV (Kanak Attak) "Trans-It! Migrations" 2. ELLIOT PERKINS (fka Phonem) "Eurodac Express" 3. DONT RHINE (Ultra-red) "Jack Tactic" 19.06., 20.00 GONE WEST Lou Simard, Marie-France Goulet, Ingo Ahmels (Konzeption), Lou Simard (Performance) Mit freundlicher Unterstützung der Botschaft von Kanada Berlin. 21. 06. + 22.06., jeweils 20.00 gmb-H (KAOSS v KAOSS) Deutschlandpremiere Graham Lewis (Wire)(GB), Bruce Gilbert (Wire)(GB), Carl Michael von Hausswolff (S), Rikard Sporrong (Elektronik, Video) (S) Gmb-H wird unterstützt durch den Schwedischen Audio/Visual-Techniker Rikard Sporrong. Eintritt 10./13./14.6. 10/7 Euro 27.5.,19./21./22.6. 11/8 Euro Orgelkonzert 12.6./ tansmediale.salon 5 Euro Abendkonzert 12.6. 10/7 Euro Kombiticket 12.6. 10 Euro Porträtgespräch 8.6. Eintritt frei Programm/program: Elke Moltrecht PODEWIL, Klosterstr. 68-70, 10179-Berlin www.podewil.de Infos: 24749-732, Karten 24749-777 (Mo-Fr, 14-19 Uhr) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Jun 14 14:07:39 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30675-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.69]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 10:07:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 14 Jun 2004 09:29:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 7240 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 14 Jun 2004 13:29:09 +0000 Received: (qmail 7226 invoked from network); Mon, 14 Jun 2004 13:29:08 +0000 Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 09:27:33 -0400 From: Chris <xxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] prepared piano To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77C-CCK-MCD {C-UDP; EBM-APPLE} (Macintosh; U; PPC) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; x-mac-type=54455854; x-mac-creator=4D4F5353 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-Accept-Language: en Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <002001c451a1$625f1700$xxxxxxxx@xxxx.xx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx You might also check out Terry Riley. Théophraste Peeble wrote: > hello everybody > I'm looking for music with prepared pianos (or other instruments if it has been done). I only know John Cage's work... I think Aphex Twin too uses prepared pianos on his Druqks albums - but he don't play they're controlled by computer. So if you know some other musicians who play with prepared instruments (what could be a prepared synthetizer ?), please let me know about it. > Thanks > ___________________________________ > | Théophraste Peeble | > | http://mapage.noos.fr/verchonfourgu | > |__________________________________ | --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Jun 14 12:30:14 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30674-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.70]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 08:30:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 14 Jun 2004 07:33:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 88777 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 14 Jun 2004 11:33:41 +0000 Received: (qmail 88767 invoked from network); Mon, 14 Jun 2004 11:33:41 +0000 Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 12:33:30 +0100 From: "W.C.Schrimshaw" <x.x.xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx.xx> Subject: RE: [microsound] prepared piano Sender: "W.C.Schrimshaw" <x.x.xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx.xx> To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx.xx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: InterChange (Hydra) SMTP v3.62 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-WebMail-UserId: n2090490 Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Newcastle-MailScanner-Information: Please contact xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx.xx for more information X-Newcastle-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-From: xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx.xx.xx X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes X-EXP32-SerialNo: 00104934 Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx Agusti Fernandez plays prepared piano as part of the Evan Parker Electro Acoustic ensemble. http://www.altho.org arts community --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? 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Mon Jun 14 09:00:15 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30672-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.75]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 05:00:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 14 Jun 2004 04:59:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 30756 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 14 Jun 2004 08:59:30 +0000 Received: (qmail 30745 invoked from network); Mon, 14 Jun 2004 08:59:29 +0000 Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 11:59:12 +0300 From: Andrey Savitsky <x.xxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] prepared piano To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>, =?iso-8859-1?Q?Th=E9ophraste_Peeble?= <xxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <19b901c451ed$e2c1b0a0$xxxxxxxx@xxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <002001c451a1$625f1700$xxxxxxxx@xxxx.xx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx the fragment of The Suite for a prepared piano, a laptop and VST plugins [26-29.07.2002] prepared piano -- Dmitry Gelfand www.portablepalace.com digital sound -- Andrey Savitsky www.hhtp.org live effect processing -- Kirill Domnitch http://minsk-off-air.com/hhtp/gsd.mp3 best regards, Andrey Savitsky www.hhtp.org ----- Original Message ----- From: "Théophraste Peeble" <xxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xx> To: "microsound" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Sent: Monday, June 14, 2004 2:51 AM Subject: [microsound] prepared piano hello everybody I'm looking for music with prepared pianos (or other instruments if it has been done). I only know John Cage's work... I think Aphex Twin too uses prepared pianos on his Druqks albums - but he don't play they're controlled by computer. So if you know some other musicians who play with prepared instruments (what could be a prepared synthetizer ?), please let me know about it. Thanks ___________________________________ | Théophraste Peeble | | http://mapage.noos.fr/verchonfourgu | |__________________________________ | --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Jun 14 09:02:40 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30671-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.72]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 05:02:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 14 Jun 2004 04:42:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 26861 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 14 Jun 2004 08:42:02 +0000 Received: (qmail 26851 invoked from network); Mon, 14 Jun 2004 08:42:01 +0000 Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 17:41:55 +0900 From: Bill Ashline <xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] prepared piano In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxx.xxx.xx-x-xxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <002001c451a1$625f1700$xxxxxxxx@xxxx.xx> <xxxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxx.xxx.xx-x-xxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx > Théophraste Peeble <xxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xx> writes: > > > hello everybody > > I'm looking for music with prepared pianos (or other instruments if it has been done). Paik Nam-june also worked with prepared pianos. On the Erstwhile release, "Hands of Carravaggio," Cor Fuhler made and used preparations for the piano used by John Tilbury. Also Andrea Neumann. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Jun 14 09:25:01 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30670-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.68]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 05:25:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 13 Jun 2004 22:53:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 61304 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 14 Jun 2004 02:53:35 +0000 Received: (qmail 61293 invoked from network); Mon, 14 Jun 2004 02:53:35 +0000 Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 22:51:21 -0400 From: Michal Seta <xxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] prepared piano In-reply-to: <002001c451a1$625f1700$xxxxxxxx@xxxx.xx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>, =?iso-8859-1?q??= =?iso-8859-1?q? =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Th=E9ophraste?= Peeble?= <xxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxx.xxx.xx-x-xxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.2.93 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Lines: 24 References: <002001c451a1$625f1700$xxxxxxxx@xxxx.xx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx head on to www.creazone.32k.org Follow these: ../MiS - prepared guitar + computer No One Receiving - prepared guitar + computer, computer and viola da gamba (can't recall if in those recordings gamba was actually prepared but it definitely is processed). Théophraste Peeble <xxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xx> writes: > hello everybody > I'm looking for music with prepared pianos (or other instruments if it has been done). I only know John Cage's work... I think Aphex Twin too uses prepared pianos on his Druqks albums - but he don't play they're controlled by computer. So if you know some other musicians who play with prepared instruments (what could be a prepared synthetizer ?), please let me know about it. > Thanks > ___________________________________ > | Théophraste Peeble | > | http://mapage.noos.fr/verchonfourgu | > |__________________________________ | -- _ __ __ (_)___ Michal Seta / \/ \ _/^ _| / V |_ \ @creazone.32k.org (___/V\___|_|___/ http://www.[creazone]|[noonereceiving].32k.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Jun 14 00:36:28 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30669-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.70]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 20:36:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 13 Jun 2004 20:29:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 22695 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 14 Jun 2004 00:29:51 +0000 Received: (qmail 22682 invoked from network); Mon, 14 Jun 2004 00:29:51 +0000 Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 20:33:24 -0400 (EDT) From: Neil Wiernik <xxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] NEW OM FESTIVAL LOCATION!! PLEASE READ THIS ONE ... (fwd) To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> Organization: The Dreaming Electronic Community Network Inc. MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=X-UNKNOWN Content-transfer-encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at dreaming.org X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx Hey ... Please help circulate! Your help would be greatly appreciated in this time of craziness!! Peace and thank you! Aspa _________ Hey there everyone ... So ... Take a seat folks, cause there's some NEW and IMPORTANT information. The OM Festival 2004 has now officially moved locations! Due to circumstances beyond our control as of 6:00 pm yesterday evening - we have been forced to move ... Within hours, we were contacted by a wonderful woman who has asked us to bring OM to her land ... This new site is wonderful ... Rolling fields, wooded forests and a swimable river that runs around it. It's a dream come true that we've managed to find a new site within hours ... Must be meant to be. There is plenty of room for on-site parking, sound villages and all the rest. WE are continuing with our membership system, as the Om circle is now officially a member-based ³club². Here's the clincher (cause you know there's got to be one ...) The new site is located in between Guelph and Owen Sound (Ontario), NOT in the Ottawa valley as previously announced! This means that we¹re MUCH closer to Toronto, Guelph, Kitchener, London, Hamilton, Windsor and Detroit ... Everyone say YAY! BUT ... We are much further way from Ottawa, Montreal, and Peterborough ... Everyone say BOO! We will be officially announcing the new location on the website and in Mo-inf-Om on Sunday night! Please spread the word and let people know the change in plans. We feel this is the best choice for us given the circumstances, and there's still plenty of time to make this happen right! Thank you all for being so dedicated and patient with all of this. Peace all and see you at OM Aspa -- June 18-21 2004 www.omfestival.ca Spread the sound ... -- SUMKIDZ RE: OM SUMMER SOLSTICE FESTIVAL 2 Bloor Street West - unit 100 - box 310 Toronto, Ontario The Canada M4W 3E2 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Jun 13 23:50:54 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30668-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.74]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 19:50:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 13 Jun 2004 19:49:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 11090 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 13 Jun 2004 23:49:56 +0000 Received: (qmail 11080 invoked from network); Sun, 13 Jun 2004 23:49:56 +0000 Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 01:51:37 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Th=E9ophraste_Peeble?= <xxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] prepared piano To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Th=E9ophraste_Peeble?= <xxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xx> Message-id: <002001c451a1$625f1700$xxxxxxxx@xxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_9AfZ+DbToGIBqY+mRkVTEA)" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Mailbox-Line: From xxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xx Mon Jun 14 01:49:50 2004 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_9AfZ+DbToGIBqY+mRkVTEA) Content-Type: text/plain; Charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit hello everybody I'm looking for music with prepared pianos (or other instruments if it has been done). I only know John Cage's work... I think Aphex Twin too uses prepared pianos on his Druqks albums - but he don't play they're controlled by computer. So if you know some other musicians who play with prepared instruments (what could be a prepared synthetizer ?), please let me know about it. Thanks ___________________________________ | Théophraste Peeble | | http://mapage.noos.fr/verchonfourgu | |__________________________________ | --Boundary_(ID_9AfZ+DbToGIBqY+mRkVTEA)-- From ???@??? Mon Jun 14 05:46:12 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30667-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.78]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 01:46:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 13 Jun 2004 19:37:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 7395 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 13 Jun 2004 23:37:13 +0000 Received: (qmail 7384 invoked from network); Sun, 13 Jun 2004 23:37:13 +0000 Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 16:37:07 -0700 From: Kim Cascone <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] audio formats To: microsound_list <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BCF23333.20028%xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.0.6 X-Loop-Detect: 1 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx http://www.anandtech.com/audio/showdoc.html?i=2079 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Jun 14 03:21:02 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30666-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.78]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 23:21:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 13 Jun 2004 18:26:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 90948 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 13 Jun 2004 22:26:36 +0000 Received: (qmail 90926 invoked from network); Sun, 13 Jun 2004 22:26:36 +0000 Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 00:10:52 +0200 From: michael hohendorf <xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] MAIN & MARCHETTI/NOETINGER in Germany To: "'xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx'" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxxx.x-xxxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Provags-ID: kundenserver.de xxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xx auth:566c5579726788d5ea2b36f30760e8af X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx Knieschussclub & REM present: MAIN (england) LIONEL MARCHETTI & JEROME NOETINGER (france) 17.06.04, 20:00h Neues Museum Weserburg Teerhof 20, BREMEN, Germany www.nmwb.de for more info contact: knieschussclub at twistedknister.de soon: 26.06. 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Tue Jun 15 00:43:33 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30665-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.69]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 20:43:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 13 Jun 2004 15:24:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 52376 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 13 Jun 2004 19:24:41 +0000 Received: (qmail 52366 invoked from network); Sun, 13 Jun 2004 19:24:41 +0000 Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 21:24:39 +0200 From: Malte Steiner <xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Timetravel, was: insts for digital treatment In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> Organization: block 4 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040514 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx oops timetravel, answering a post from 1904 :) got to cleanup my microsound archive... -- Malte Steiner media art + development -www.block4.com- next event/ lecture: pure-data workshop 24.-25. july BEK, Bergen, Norway --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Jun 13 19:37:41 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30664-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.68]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 15:37:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 13 Jun 2004 15:19:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 50562 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 13 Jun 2004 19:19:57 +0000 Received: (qmail 50552 invoked from network); Sun, 13 Jun 2004 19:19:56 +0000 Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 21:19:55 +0200 From: Malte Steiner <xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] insts for digital treatment In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> Organization: block 4 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040514 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx peter b wrote: > > Also, there is documentation of a project I did under the Daniel > Langlois Foundation on my site- I just got back from a tour of the > states playing > shinths- simply touchable, breakable, deconstructable circuit boards: > http://www.rainbowrandom.net/shinths I am really interested into your instruments. But first I am curious how you get through the controls at the airport and into USA? I got always in (minor) trouble with my laptops and yamaha windcontroller. I really would like to know the reaction on your amazing manteau de l'amiral but you said already to not take it to the airport :) Cheers, Malte -- Malte Steiner media art + development -www.block4.com- next event/ lecture: pure-data workshop 24.-25. july BEK, Bergen, Norway --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Jun 14 22:05:02 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30663-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta10.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta10.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.85]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 18:05:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta10.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 13 Jun 2004 15:14:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 48389 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 13 Jun 2004 19:12:23 +0000 Received: (qmail 48379 invoked from network); Sun, 13 Jun 2004 19:12:23 +0000 Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 21:12:21 +0200 From: Malte Steiner <xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] July Germany In-reply-to: <xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> Organization: block 4 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040514 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx j l wrote: > > Hi to all, > I am Jose Ignacio from EL LAZO INVISIBLE (Peru) > > I'll be traveling to Germany (Bremen) the last three weeks of July, I > was wandering if anybody can help me find out places to play my > microsoundish clickish set in Germany or northern Switzerland during > that time. > > Thanx :) > > El Lazo Invisible > Discos Invisibles > I would like but can't promise something in that short time because venues are booked much in advance. Can something be heard on the web? Cheers, Malte -- Malte Steiner media art + development -www.block4.com- next event/ lecture: pure-data workshop 24.-25. july BEK, Bergen, Norway --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Jun 13 22:14:24 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30662-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.68]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 18:14:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 13 Jun 2004 14:20:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 32105 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 13 Jun 2004 18:20:28 +0000 Received: (qmail 32094 invoked from network); Sun, 13 Jun 2004 18:20:28 +0000 Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 18:20:26 +0000 From: j l <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] July Germany X-Originating-IP: [200.77.192.201] X-Sender: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Bcc: Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Originating-Email: [xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Jun 2004 18:20:26.0600 (UTC) FILETIME=[199C9E80:01C45173] Hi to all, I am Jose Ignacio from EL LAZO INVISIBLE (Peru) I'll be traveling to Germany (Bremen) the last three weeks of July, I was wandering if anybody can help me find out places to play my microsoundish clickish set in Germany or northern Switzerland during that time. Thanx :) El Lazo Invisible Discos Invisibles _________________________________________________________________ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar – get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Jun 13 13:48:25 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30661-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.72]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 09:48:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 13 Jun 2004 09:46:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 71947 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 13 Jun 2004 13:46:19 +0000 Received: (qmail 71934 invoked from network); Sun, 13 Jun 2004 13:46:18 +0000 Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 15:46:16 +0200 From: Massimiliano Viel <xxxx@xxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] spectralist CD? In-reply-to: <l03130300bcf1fe0650c2@[213.84.105.55]> X-Sender: mail%xxxxxxx.xx@xxxx.xxxxxx.xx To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <a05200f01bcf20954dc12@[1.255.244.143]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <l03130304bcf133d3404b@[213.84.105.55]> <l03130301bcf0da802702@[213.84.105.55]> <03e701c4501a$0e211f40$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> <l03130301bcf0da802702@[213.84.105.55]> <l03130304bcf133d3404b@[213.84.105.55]> <l03130300bcf1fe0650c2@[213.84.105.55]> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx > >the application to the big form of the micro segmentation of sound, >-I think that that idea moves beyond human perception, if you > want to succeed with that intention you can not do that > without taking human limitations in to account. I think you are right, but before "taking human limitations in to account", you need to know them! What I contest to original "spectral school",among others, is to base on a psychological science that at that age was already old! > >but was not supported by adeguated reflections on >>form perception (or even perceptive segmentation >-Which in a sense is quite strange, because I seem > to remember that Stephen McAdams was doing all kinds > of research on these matters at IRCAM at that time > and was often quoted, in this regard. that's true, nevertheless pattern recognition or segment perception were out of the research of the (starting) spectral school... > >resulted (always imho) not much more than a technical gadget. >-Which is probably also the biggest I have always had > with it. > But like you mentioned it also resulted in some good music > and intriguing ideas and musical software. Of course! I have also studied with Murail (who was very rigid at that time on textural thinking of musical composition!!!) and appreciate a lot (among others) some of Grisey's (orchestral) work! m -- http://www.otolab.net/projects/sn/index.htm >> http://www.otolab.net << --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Jun 13 13:03:12 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30660-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.70]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 09:03:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 13 Jun 2004 09:03:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 63816 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 13 Jun 2004 13:03:02 +0000 Received: (qmail 63805 invoked from network); Sun, 13 Jun 2004 13:03:01 +0000 Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 15:03:00 +0200 From: Arie van Schutterhoef <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] spectralist CD? In-reply-to: <a05200f00bcf1dd4287ca@[1.255.244.142]> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <l03130300bcf1fe0650c2@[213.84.105.55]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <l03130304bcf133d3404b@[213.84.105.55]> <l03130301bcf0da802702@[213.84.105.55]> <03e701c4501a$0e211f40$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> <l03130301bcf0da802702@[213.84.105.55]> <l03130304bcf133d3404b@[213.84.105.55]> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx >the application to the big form of the micro segmentation of sound, -I think that that idea moves beyond human perception, if you want to succeed with that intention you can not do that without taking human limitations in to account. >but was not supported by adeguated reflections on >form perception (or even perceptive segmentation -Which in a sense is quite strange, because I seem to remember that Stephen McAdams was doing all kinds of research on these matters at IRCAM at that time and was often quoted, in this regard. >resulted (always imho) not much more than a technical gadget. -Which is probably also the biggest I have always had with it. But like you mentioned it also resulted in some good music and intriguing ideas and musical software. 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Sun Jun 13 10:35:06 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30659-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.68]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 06:35:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 13 Jun 2004 06:35:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 37700 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 13 Jun 2004 10:35:02 +0000 Received: (qmail 37689 invoked from network); Sun, 13 Jun 2004 10:35:01 +0000 Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 12:34:57 +0200 From: Massimiliano Viel <xxxx@xxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] spectralist CD? In-reply-to: <l03130304bcf133d3404b@[213.84.105.55]> X-Sender: mail%xxxxxxx.xx@xxxx.xxxxxx.xx To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <a05200f00bcf1dd4287ca@[1.255.244.142]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <l03130301bcf0da802702@[213.84.105.55]> <03e701c4501a$0e211f40$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> <l03130301bcf0da802702@[213.84.105.55]> <l03130304bcf133d3404b@[213.84.105.55]> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx > >with some (i.m.h.o., of course) overestimated thinking about form >-In what sense? In the sense, that their major conquest, the application to the big form of the micro segmentation of sound, was indeed an original and even funny idea, but was not supported by adeguated reflections on form perception (or even perceptive segmentation, if you want) and resulted (always imho) not much more than a technical gadget. -- http://www.otolab.net/projects/sn/index.htm >> http://www.otolab.net << --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Jun 13 08:21:47 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30658-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.78]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 04:21:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 13 Jun 2004 04:21:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 18473 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 13 Jun 2004 08:21:51 +0000 Received: (qmail 18463 invoked from network); Sun, 13 Jun 2004 08:21:50 +0000 Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 10:22:53 +0200 From: Andrea Valle <xxxxx_xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] spectralist CD? In-reply-to: <BCF1101B.1CA6%xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx.xx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.553) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx > Even if you leave some very subtle parameters of the sound outside > Anycase, the notion of timbre is absolutely confuse, as Schaeffer pointed out about 40 years ago, individutaing at least two main acceptions. For what is concerning the qualitative aspects of sounds, old Pierre started with seven criteria, one of which is timbre armonique. "Grain" et "rugosité", of which Grisey speaks a lot, could not be easily grasped through frequency domain representation, but better (as Xenakis pointed out) through time domain representation. Best -a- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Jun 13 02:34:11 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30657-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.70]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 12 Jun 2004 22:34:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 12 Jun 2004 22:34:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 57693 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 13 Jun 2004 02:34:12 +0000 Received: (qmail 57682 invoked from network); Sun, 13 Jun 2004 02:34:11 +0000 Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2004 22:37:31 -0400 From: doug van nort <xxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] data -> sound examples In-reply-to: <l03130300bcef726244ba@[213.84.105.55]> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.612) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <l03130303bcee715dd285@[213.84.105.55]> <l03130300bcef726244ba@[213.84.105.55]> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx hi mcrsnd list, i don't believe it has been mentioned yet within this thread (apologies if it has...) but there is a group devoted to this very subject --- International Community for Auditory Display: http://www.icad.org/ This past January there was a workshop on interactive sonification in Bielefeld, Germany organized by Andy Hunt and Thomas Hermann: http://www.sonification.de/WS-ISon2004.html i enjoy this topic very much. sonifically yours,, doug --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Jun 12 23:30:34 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30656-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.67]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 12 Jun 2004 19:30:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 12 Jun 2004 19:30:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 9578 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 12 Jun 2004 23:30:30 +0000 Received: (qmail 9566 invoked from network); Sat, 12 Jun 2004 23:30:29 +0000 Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2004 16:30:25 -0700 From: "Rudolph A. Carrera" <xxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] OT: Seeking reliable ISP to host my site In-reply-to: <BCF0DF5E.1FF8D%xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: 'microsound' <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <002901c450d5$404c87f0$xxxxxxxx@xxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6626 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx Hello; Rare for me to ask of something from the list, but I'm seeking a bit of advice on who you all recommend as an affordable and reliable ISP provider for a non-profit company I'm about to launch. 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Sat Jun 12 22:29:11 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30654-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.69]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 12 Jun 2004 18:29:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 12 Jun 2004 18:28:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 94544 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 12 Jun 2004 22:28:35 +0000 Received: (qmail 94534 invoked from network); Sat, 12 Jun 2004 22:28:35 +0000 Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 00:28:31 +0200 From: Arie van Schutterhoef <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] spectralist CD? In-reply-to: <a05200f02bcf0f04f8d66@[1.255.244.142]> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <l03130304bcf133d3404b@[213.84.105.55]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <l03130301bcf0da802702@[213.84.105.55]> <03e701c4501a$0e211f40$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> <l03130301bcf0da802702@[213.84.105.55]> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx >with some (i.m.h.o., of course) overestimated thinking about form -In what sense? AvS . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ...................................................................... ` |Schreck Ensemble . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . + ` |# -laboratory for live electro-acoustic music- # | | http://www.schreck.nl/ | | http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/ | ` *===========================================================++ ` |Compositions http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/compo.html | ` |Samples http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/samp.html | ` |Patches http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/pat.html | ` |Videos http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/video.html | ` |Scores http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/scores.html | *===========================================================++ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ...................................................................... --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Jun 12 23:21:44 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30653-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.42]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 12 Jun 2004 19:21:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 12 Jun 2004 18:04:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 88039 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 12 Jun 2004 22:04:04 +0000 Received: (qmail 88029 invoked from network); Sat, 12 Jun 2004 22:04:04 +0000 Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 00:03:59 +0200 From: Arie van Schutterhoef <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] spectralist CD? In-reply-to: <BCF1101B.1CA6%xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx.xx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <l03130302bcf12d7ec35a@[213.84.105.55]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <l03130301bcf0da802702@[213.84.105.55]> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx >I do not listen-perceive >pitches even if they are there, but timbres. -Which is something both Scelsi and Nono are emphasizing, be it under their own notion of suono or ascolta. AvS . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ...................................................................... ` |Schreck Ensemble . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . + ` |# -laboratory for live electro-acoustic music- # | | http://www.schreck.nl/ | | http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/ | ` *===========================================================++ ` |Compositions http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/compo.html | ` |Samples http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/samp.html | ` |Patches http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/pat.html | ` |Videos http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/video.html | ` |Scores http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/scores.html | *===========================================================++ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ...................................................................... --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Jun 12 18:58:12 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30652-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.69]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 12 Jun 2004 14:58:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 12 Jun 2004 14:58:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 39815 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 12 Jun 2004 18:58:05 +0000 Received: (qmail 39803 invoked from network); Sat, 12 Jun 2004 18:58:05 +0000 Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2004 19:55:07 +0100 From: Thanos Chrysakis <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] spectralist CD? In-reply-to: <l03130301bcf0da802702@[213.84.105.55]> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BCF1101B.1CA6%xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.0.3 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx on 6/12/04 5:06 PM, Arie van Schutterhoef at xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx wrote: >> it is timbre-based music > -I think that this not correct: > timbre contains more elements than Fourier Analysis > shows, there is the general amplitude curvature, but > also the grouping of overtones, the amount of noise > and quit important: the attack and decay. Fourier Analysis (as well other analysis/synthesis techniques) relate to the harmonic structure of the sound..... thus timbre. Even if you leave some very subtle parameters of the sound outside the acoustic result is one that relates mostly to the timbre than pitch. I said timbre from the point of the acoustic result. In this kind of music personally I do not listen-perceive pitches even if they are there, but timbres. regards Thanos --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Jun 12 17:54:29 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30651-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.78]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 12 Jun 2004 13:54:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 12 Jun 2004 13:54:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 25609 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 12 Jun 2004 17:54:19 +0000 Received: (qmail 25598 invoked from network); Sat, 12 Jun 2004 17:54:19 +0000 Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2004 19:54:15 +0200 From: Massimiliano Viel <xxxx@xxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] spectralist CD? In-reply-to: <l03130301bcf0da802702@[213.84.105.55]> X-Sender: mail%xxxxxxx.xx@xxxx.xxxxxx.xx To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <a05200f02bcf0f04f8d66@[1.255.244.142]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <03e701c4501a$0e211f40$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> <l03130301bcf0da802702@[213.84.105.55]> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx I would actually generalise it more, by considering the "spectral technique" as a tendency to use electronic synthesis/analysis techniques to write music for (mainly) acoustic instruments. In fact other synthesis besides the additive are used, even without a Fourier analysis... ring modulation or FM, for example, or Open Music/Patchwork data. In my opinion, "spectral technique" is no (much) more than a very very well refined technique of instrumentation, with some (i.m.h.o., of course) overestimated thinking about form. It was more important to exit the (cultural/economical) impasse left by Boulez and put in career some other way of thinking music (and some people too) in France... Of course that period left also some excellent music! m > >the music that is based > >on the harmonic spectrum of the sounds. >>in other words... they construct their pieces >>after analyzing particular spectra from concrete sounds or >>acoustic instruments....and then they >>apply them into their orchestration. >-Well actually, they transcribe the frequencies > appearing in their analysis (through the Fourier Series) > to notes available on the instruments in the classical > orchestra. Resulting in microtonal pitched music. > >>it is timbre-based music >-I think that this not correct: > timbre contains more elements than Fourier Analysis > shows, there is the general amplitude curvature, but > also the grouping of overtones, the amount of noise > and quit important: the attack and decay. > >AvS -- http://www.otolab.net/projects/sn/index.htm >> http://www.otolab.net << --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Jun 12 16:07:04 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30650-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.78]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 12 Jun 2004 12:07:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 12 Jun 2004 12:06:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 99598 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 12 Jun 2004 16:06:49 +0000 Received: (qmail 99586 invoked from network); Sat, 12 Jun 2004 16:06:48 +0000 Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2004 18:06:44 +0200 From: Arie van Schutterhoef <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] spectralist CD? In-reply-to: <BCF01988.1C7A%xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx.xx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <l03130301bcf0da802702@[213.84.105.55]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <03e701c4501a$0e211f40$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx >the music that is based >on the harmonic spectrum of the sounds. >in other words... they construct their pieces >after analyzing particular spectra from concrete sounds or >acoustic instruments....and then they >apply them into their orchestration. -Well actually, they transcribe the frequencies appearing in their analysis (through the Fourier Series) to notes available on the instruments in the classical orchestra. Resulting in microtonal pitched music. >it is timbre-based music -I think that this not correct: timbre contains more elements than Fourier Analysis shows, there is the general amplitude curvature, but also the grouping of overtones, the amount of noise and quit important: the attack and decay. 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Sat Jun 12 01:26:06 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30648-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.42]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 11 Jun 2004 21:26:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 11 Jun 2004 21:26:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 33738 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 12 Jun 2004 01:26:06 +0000 Received: (qmail 33727 invoked from network); Sat, 12 Jun 2004 01:26:06 +0000 Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2004 02:23:04 +0100 From: Thanos Chrysakis <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] spectralist CD? In-reply-to: <03e701c4501a$0e211f40$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BCF01988.1C7A%xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.0.3 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx on 6/12/04 2:10 AM, Glenn Folkvord (Hyperion Media) at xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx wrote: > What is spectralist music? from what I know and as a quick response.... the music that is based on the harmonic spectrum of the sounds. in other words... they construct their pieces after analyzing particular spectra from concrete sounds or acoustic instruments....and then they apply them into their orchestration. it is timbre-based music actually that's why it has a close relationship with electronic music. hope this helps regards Thanos --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Jun 12 01:10:34 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30647-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.72]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 11 Jun 2004 21:10:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 11 Jun 2004 21:10:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 29905 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 12 Jun 2004 01:10:34 +0000 Received: (qmail 29895 invoked from network); Sat, 12 Jun 2004 01:10:34 +0000 Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2004 03:10:28 +0200 From: "Glenn Folkvord (Hyperion Media)" <xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] spectralist CD? To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <03e701c4501a$0e211f40$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <BCEFCC81.7D2F%xxxxxxx.x@xxxxxxxxx.xx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx What is spectralist music? 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Sat Jun 12 00:54:34 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30646-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.70]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 11 Jun 2004 20:54:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 11 Jun 2004 20:54:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 25389 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 12 Jun 2004 00:54:31 +0000 Received: (qmail 25379 invoked from network); Sat, 12 Jun 2004 00:54:31 +0000 Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2004 20:54:25 -0400 From: Guillaume Grenier <xxxxxxx.x@xxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] spectralist CD? In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xx-xx-xxxxx.xx.xxxxxxxxx.xx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BCEFCC81.7D2F%xxxxxxx.x@xxxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.0.0.040405 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx On 11/06/04 20:14, Paulo Mouat said in living color: >> I would add to this very good (snipped) list another work by >> Murail which I love (and which I might play in the near >> future!): "Territoires de l'oubli" >> (for piano). Try to get Roger Muraro's recording of it if you >> somehow manage to come upon it. > > I have the Dominique My recording. Any notable details that differ between > the two? I have the My recording, too. I actually don't own the Muraro recording but I have heard it. I can only tell you that my remembrance of the Muraro performance was that miraculous things were happening. Was it because it was my first contact with the piece? You bet. But I don't think that was the only reason. So: the performance by Dominique My seemed very fine to me... [I have to get the score and begin learning it... Then, I will have a very definite and implacable judgment about the piece and The Way it's supposed to be played ;)] BUT Muraro left an even stronger impression on me. g. -- Guillaume Grenier - xxxxxxx.x@xxxxxxxxx.xx "Things are more like they are now than they ever were before." 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Sat Jun 12 00:15:18 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30645-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.72]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 11 Jun 2004 20:15:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 11 Jun 2004 20:15:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 15002 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 12 Jun 2004 00:15:18 +0000 Received: (qmail 14992 invoked from network); Sat, 12 Jun 2004 00:15:18 +0000 Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2004 20:14:59 -0400 From: Paulo Mouat <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: RE: [microsound] spectralist CD? In-reply-to: <BCEFBF58.7D16%xxxxxxx.x@xxxxxxxxx.xx> To: 'microsound' <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Thread-index: AcRQD/p24iVYCiptTGKxaH3LlJZp2AAANr/g Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-MailScanner-Information: Please contact CWIHosting.com for more information X-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - t8.cwihosting.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - hyperreal.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 99] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - dmethods.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx > I would add to this very good (snipped) list another work by > Murail which I love (and which I might play in the near > future!): "Territoires de l'oubli" > (for piano). Try to get Roger Muraro's recording of it if you > somehow manage to come upon it. I have the Dominique My recording. Any notable details that differ between the two? > Also, an exploration of the romanian spectralists would be > time well invested. Radulescu has already been mentioned by > another poster. Also, Dumitrescu, Avram. Never came across any recordings of Radulescu using his 'sound icon' (know of any?). I have his 'Inner Time II' which I find outstanding because it is for 7 clarinets each in a very specific microtonal tuning defining a scordatura. Cheers, //P --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Jun 12 00:13:51 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30644-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.75]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 11 Jun 2004 20:13:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 11 Jun 2004 20:13:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 14017 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 12 Jun 2004 00:13:51 +0000 Received: (qmail 14002 invoked from network); Sat, 12 Jun 2004 00:13:51 +0000 Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2004 01:10:49 +0100 From: Thanos Chrysakis <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] spectralist CD? In-reply-to: <BCEFBF58.7D16%xxxxxxx.x@xxxxxxxxx.xx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BCF00899.1C73%xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.0.3 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx on 6/12/04 12:58 AM, Guillaume Grenier at xxxxxxx.x@xxxxxxxxx.xx wrote: > I would add to this very good (snipped) list another work by Murail which I > love (and which I might play in the near future!): "Territoires de l'oubli" > (for piano). fantastic music! >Try to get Roger Muraro's recording of it if you somehow manage > to come upon it. > > One of the most impressive and successful pieces written for the piano in > "recent" history, I think.I'd describe it as exploded Messiaen, frozen in > time. Maybe. I like your saying about this piece.....and I agree wholehearted! regards Thanos --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Jun 11 23:58:22 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30643-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.68]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 11 Jun 2004 19:58:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 11 Jun 2004 19:58:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 8395 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 11 Jun 2004 23:58:21 +0000 Received: (qmail 8385 invoked from network); Fri, 11 Jun 2004 23:58:21 +0000 Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2004 19:58:16 -0400 From: Guillaume Grenier <xxxxxxx.x@xxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] spectralist CD? In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xx-xx-xxxxx.xx.xxxxxxxxx.xx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BCEFBF58.7D16%xxxxxxx.x@xxxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.0.0.040405 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx On 11/06/04 10:34, Paulo Mouat said in living color: >> can anyone recommend a good Spectralist CD comp? have done some >> reading on the genre and wanted to check out some of the work... >> ??? <snip> > There's also the already mentioned Tristan Murail, of whom I very much > like: I would add to this very good (snipped) list another work by Murail which I love (and which I might play in the near future!): "Territoires de l'oubli" (for piano). Try to get Roger Muraro's recording of it if you somehow manage to come upon it. One of the most impressive and successful pieces written for the piano in "recent" history, I think. I'd describe it as exploded Messiaen, frozen in time. Maybe. Also, an exploration of the romanian spectralists would be time well invested. Radulescu has already been mentioned by another poster. Also, Dumitrescu, Avram. g. -- Guillaume Grenier - xxxxxxx.x@xxxxxxxxx.xx "Things are more like they are now than they ever were before." (Dwight Eisenhower) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Jun 11 20:29:55 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30642-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.67]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 11 Jun 2004 16:29:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 11 Jun 2004 16:30:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 30483 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 11 Jun 2004 20:29:52 +0000 Received: (qmail 30473 invoked from network); Fri, 11 Jun 2004 20:29:52 +0000 Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2004 22:29:35 +0200 From: Roland Hausheer <xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] tokyo: thanks! In-reply-to: <01f401c44f37$c841af40$xxxxxxxx@xxxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.606) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx@xxxx.xxxxxx.xx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xx> <01f401c44f37$c841af40$xxxxxxxx@xxxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx hi there thanks to everybody for the useful links for tokyo! damnd, got a lot of work now..! sayonara roland --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Jun 11 18:57:39 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30641-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.42]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 11 Jun 2004 14:57:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 11 Jun 2004 14:57:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 4891 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 11 Jun 2004 18:57:37 +0000 Received: (qmail 4879 invoked from network); Fri, 11 Jun 2004 18:57:37 +0000 Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2004 12:08:39 -0700 From: Thom Blum <xxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] microsound in buenos aires? To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.6b) Gecko/20031205 Thunderbird/0.4 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx i'll be in buenos aires in mid july. does anyone know of microsound-related events, venues, etc. in that region? thanks, ...thom blum http://www.thomblum.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Jun 11 17:57:16 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30640-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.70]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 11 Jun 2004 13:57:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 11 Jun 2004 13:57:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 77507 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 11 Jun 2004 17:57:14 +0000 Received: (qmail 77497 invoked from network); Fri, 11 Jun 2004 17:57:14 +0000 Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2004 13:57:17 -0400 From: vze26m98 <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] spectralist CD? In-reply-to: <BCEF00CD.1FE18%xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx@xx.xxx.xxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mailsmith 1.1.6 (Bluto) Content-type: text/plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx On 6/11/04 at 6:25 AM, Kim Cascone <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote: > can anyone recommend a good Spectralist CD comp? have done some > reading on the genre and wanted to check out some of the work... Kim- The 2000 isues of your favorite music mag, _Contemporary Music Review_ were devoted to Spectralist music: 19/2 2000 Spectral Music: Techniques Joshua Fineberg 19/3 2000 Spectral Music: Aesthetics and Music Joshua Fineberg I do believe there was a CD produced. I'll have to check... Best, Tad .. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Charles Turner 917-699-9513 72 Hickory Hill Lane Tappan, NY 10983 xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? 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Fri Jun 11 14:34:29 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30637-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.74]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 11 Jun 2004 10:34:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 11 Jun 2004 10:34:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 90815 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 11 Jun 2004 14:34:27 +0000 Received: (qmail 90803 invoked from network); Fri, 11 Jun 2004 14:34:27 +0000 Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2004 10:34:08 -0400 From: Paulo Mouat <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: RE: [microsound] spectralist CD? In-reply-to: <BCEF00CD.1FE18%xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: 'microsound' <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Thread-index: AcRPt0sNm9J0cijHTU+einJtUtMJ5wACaimg Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-MailScanner-Information: Please contact CWIHosting.com for more information X-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - t8.cwihosting.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - hyperreal.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 99] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - dmethods.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx > can anyone recommend a good Spectralist CD comp? have done some > reading on the genre and wanted to check out some of the work... > ??? Gerard Grisey, "Les Espaces Acoustiques" (double, Accord 465 396-2), contains all the major and influential works of this composer in the genre: - Prologue, pour alto et resonateurs - Periodes, pour 7 musiciens - Partiels, pour 18 musiciens - Modulations, pour 33 musiciens - Transitoires, pour orchestre - Epilogue, pour 4 cors solo et orchestre Prologue is said to be like a compendium of spectral composition. I'm sure you'll be able to find more info on the net. I could check my book collection for more data if you are interested on any of the above or the below. For fun, try this out: http://www.ac-grenoble.fr/Partiels/ My favourites by Grisey also include: - Jour Contre Jour, pour ensemble (in Accord 201952) - Vortex Temporum, pour flûte, clarinette, piano, violon, alto et violoncelle (in Accord 464 292-2) There's also the already mentioned Tristan Murail, of whom I very much like: - Memoire/Erosion, pour cor et ensemble instrumental (in Accord 465 900- 2) - Treize couleurs du soleil couchant, pour 5 instruments (in Accord 465 901-2) - Les courants de l'espace, pour Ondes Martenot et orchestre (in Accord 465 900-2) - Desintegrations, pour ensemble et bande (in Adès/IRCAM 205 212) One of my early and all-time favourites of the genre is Jonathan Harvey's Mortuos Plango, Vivos Voco (in Wergo WER 2025-2). And there's also the grand-father of the genre Giacinto Scelsi, of whom I would recommend: - Uaxuctum, pour orchestre, choeur et Ondes Martenot - Quattro Pezzi per Orchestra ....both in Accord 200612. Contact me privately if you (or anyone on the list) have difficulty finding any of the above, or if you would like to peruse my catalogue. Cheers, //Paulo --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Jun 11 14:33:08 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30636-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.69]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 11 Jun 2004 10:33:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 11 Jun 2004 10:33:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 89857 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 11 Jun 2004 14:33:02 +0000 Received: (qmail 89847 invoked from network); Fri, 11 Jun 2004 14:33:02 +0000 Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2004 16:33:01 +0200 From: Arie van Schutterhoef <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] data -> sound examples In-reply-to: <BCEE91A8.20CBA%xxxxxxxx@xxxx-xxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <l03130300bcef726244ba@[213.84.105.55]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <l03130303bcee715dd285@[213.84.105.55]> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx >>-Thereby reducing the inherent quality? >More subjective process always equals better art? -Might be possible, if that's included with a well developed sense of judgement... 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Fri Jun 11 14:22:04 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30635-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.74]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 11 Jun 2004 10:22:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 11 Jun 2004 10:22:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 85868 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 11 Jun 2004 14:22:01 +0000 Received: (qmail 85858 invoked from network); Fri, 11 Jun 2004 14:22:01 +0000 Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2004 15:19:01 +0100 From: Thanos Chrysakis <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] spectralist CD? In-reply-to: <BCEF00CD.1FE18%xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BCEF7DE5.1C33%xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1254 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.0.3 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx on 6/11/04 2:25 PM, Kim Cascone at xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx wrote: > can anyone recommend a good Spectralist CD comp? have done some reading on > the genre and wanted to check out some of the work... > ??? no comp but I found these titles among my CDs:: A comp of Murail's first "spectral" works Tristan Murail::Mémoire/Erosion-Ethers-C'est un jardin secret, ma soeur, ma fiancée-Les courants de l'espace. Label::Musidisc France 1992. Jonathan Harvey's work for acoustic instruments and electronics BHAKTI. Label::NMC 1989 Also two very nice pieces for solo piano by Murail on the CD Musique Francaise d' Aujourd'hui with works by Messian -Murail.Label::Radio France-1996 also, Giacinto Scelsi is worth mentioning in this kind of attitude to the sound. regards Thanos > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? 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In-reply-to: <BCEF00CD.1FE18%xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Sender: xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxx.xx To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: Tommi Keranen <xxxxxx@xxx.xx> Message-id: <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxx.xxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <BCEF00CD.1FE18%xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-Authentication-warning: sirppi.helsinki.fi: trkerane owned process doing -bs List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx > can anyone recommend a good Spectralist CD comp? have done some reading on > the genre and wanted to check out some of the work... > ??? Are you talking about music composed by composers considered as spectralists? Recently there was The Primer article in The Wire about spectatist recordings, cannot remember the issue sorry... And cannot recommend any compilations but Horatio Radulescu has done some absolutely fantastic music. TK --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? 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Alku: Formatissimo I + II +. Steinbrüchel / Brusa: -00:dedaih +. pix: tabfight2k-r4nd1 +. Renox: rand2DLsND8, rwalk, abstractB +. Tom Davis: Music on Hold check the schedule at: http://www.r4nd.org/schedule.html info: Artist: Alku Title: Formatissimo I + II Software: Pure Data An audio blueprint of the classic chicken / egg dilemma. A PD program generates a text file filled with random numbers which is then converted into audio data. The resulting audio is then analysed and dumped into the same text file which is then re-converted again... and again... and again.... Formatissimo deals with the issues of creation, iteration and endless recycling. http://www.r4nd.org/alku.html Artist: Steinbrüchel / Brusa Title: -00:dedaih Software: Director -00:dedaih is a computer generated audiovisual piece utilising pristine tones and clean sharp microtextures. It was created for the Migros Museum of Contemporary Art in Zürich and recently released as a 3" CD on synchron. http://www.r4nd.org/steinbruchel.html Artist: pix Title: tabfight2k-r4nd1 Software: Pure Data pix is a developer and part-time collaborator with Farmersmanual. His work is often based on the capture and transformation of data streams to control sound and video. tabfight2k-r4nd1 is inspired by the act of rendering kernel (operating system) data directly to the computers soundcard. http://www.r4nd.org/pix.html Artist: Renox Title[s]: microsounds2004 - rand2DLsND8, rwalk, abstractB Software: Director / Shockwave Renox uses classic structural algorithms like Pythagoras and Fourier to control and grow audio fractal patterns. 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To: microsound_list <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BCEF00CD.1FE18%xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.0.6 X-Loop-Detect: 1 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx can anyone recommend a good Spectralist CD comp? have done some reading on the genre and wanted to check out some of the work... ??? --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Jun 11 12:55:48 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30630-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.78]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 11 Jun 2004 08:55:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 11 Jun 2004 08:55:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 64686 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 11 Jun 2004 12:55:39 +0000 Received: (qmail 64675 invoked from network); Fri, 11 Jun 2004 12:55:38 +0000 Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2004 08:58:57 -0400 (EDT) From: Neil Wiernik <xxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] om 2004 june 18-24 full details To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> Organization: The Dreaming Electronic Community Network Inc. MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at dreaming.org X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx OM Summer Solstice Festival 2004, June 18-21, Ontario, CANADA The OM Summer Solstice Festival is an annually anticipated gathering of global and local networks in rural Ontario, Canada. It is the opportunity to unite as one movement in celebration of music, art, activism and forward thinking. Its a place to create and inspire, a space to educate and empower and most importantly, a chance to unite and celebrate the strength of our community. We invite you to join us for 4 days together under the sun and stars while the midsummer night and longest day of the year converge. This year, OM will include diverse sights and sounds. Eight sound villages will feature a cross-section of live musical and visual performances, djs, and workshops - all presented in a comprehensive edutainment environment. In addition to the creativity YOU bring, we will host inspiring talks, art installations, theme villages, a healing annex, a freeskool, a film festival, an art gallery, and a free community kitchen all entwined amidst the magical Canadian wilderness. The OM Festival was born 7 years ago and as each year passes, it continues to organically develop into a thriving and radiant entity of free expression. Spread the sound Yes! Om has a NEW location for this year! One we have never used before. The amazing site features lots of shade for camping, a spectacular pine forest, gently rolling green hills and open fields, and of course, water for swimming. We realize many of you want to know where Om is. However, we will not be disclosing the location of Om until closer to the solstice. The location of the festival is accessible by foot, bike, BUS or car. It is located in the Ottawa Valley corridor conveniently between Toronto Ottawa and Montreal. It is a 3.5 hour drive from Toronto. 2.5 hours from Ottawa and 4 hours from Montreal. For planning sake, aim in the direction of Bancroft, Ontario, and imagine a 30 minute to 40 minute drive along back roads from there. keep checking www.omfestival.ca for the location details closer to the festival date. In the sprit of the non-spectator, participant economy that we try to cultivate at OM, while attempting to build some sort of year round sustainable member based community, weve really tried to keep prices fair this year, by offering the following annual membership options: OMERS - $90 advance These are Memberships for general participants of the festival. VILLAGERS - $80 (limited supply - SOLD OUT!) To encourage community involvement, these Memberships are reserved for those groups who organize and participate as part of a Theme Village. These Memberships are in limited supply. **Unfortunately the deadline for Theme Villages has passed for 2004. Hope to hear from you next year!** OMIES - $30 (limited supply - SOLD OUT!) To further encourage community involvement, these Memberships are reserved for those participants who wish to take on volunteer shifts at this years festival. We offer these Memberships in exchange for 8 hours of work (2 4 hour shifts). These Memberships are also in limited supply. **The deadline to register was June 3 and we have filled all volunteer positions. For more information on volunteer memberships click here and look under participate > volunteer.** **This year there will be a car tax for every vehicle. If you dont plan to share costs and carpool, take the bus and save your pennies. Each year OM hosts a multitude of Sound Villages each very different in theme and vibe. A Sound Village is more than just a sound system; these areas are multi-sensory sound spheres - an explosion of art, community and performance. OM 2004 Participating Sound Villages: Sumkidz Sound System Alchemist Arena BLA Galactic Boogieman Electronic Playground West Side Connection Causmo Effect Sound System Illage Village Funk n' Bass Sumkidz Sound System Stage Linup: eccodek Freeworm BLUETECH - (West Coast, US) SOLAR FIELDS - (Sweden) ADHAM SHAIKH - http://www.sonicturtle.com THIRD EYE TRIBE (Vancouver, BC.) Tribal Harmonix, LION-S - Vitamin Tribe Imports, Shambhala LEXIFER (Legion of Green Men, Post Contemporary) www.postcontemporary.net CELL DIVISION - http://www.celldivisioncrew.com ZIRCO CIRCUS SURGERY www.zircocircus.com GABOR international bucket surgeon sumkidz! Toronto DJ SENNES - Federal Sound/Gnome, Toronto SLEUTH - Gnome/Federal Sound, Toronto DMS - Guelph, On www.baselinestudios.com navi - Gnome/jabba control naw Montreal, Quebec (noise factory records, complot, piehead records, worthy records, phoniq) www.noisefactoryrecords.com mister andy schnerg Bermuda www.calisthenics.org ABERRATION - San Francisco, sumkidz! utena1 (a.k.a. strangeangel23) Toronto, www.sosf.stuffyrabbit.com DJ NEERAV - Montreal, Quebec RESINATORS Toronto, Maximum DUB experience, www.resinators.com Deeno - bloom! studios Guelph, ON - http://www.guelphcrew.org/djs TASK FoundationMusic, wabi - Toronto www.wabi.org MESSY JESSE - acoustic bliss, sumkidz! Toronto RHYTHMICRU Toronto - www.rhythmicru.ca YOSHI & CHIE Japan/Toronto CPI - www.thetastates.com ROLAND CASH sumkidz! Toronto MARACATU NUNCA ANTES - Brazil to Toronto TELEFUNK SOUND SYSTEM LIVE - sumkidz! Toronto JONAH K Gnome, sumkidz! Toronto SOURFLY LIVE sumkidz! Toronto JAH REVEREND - Toronto CHOCOLATE scratch free sumkidz! Toronto Splee3KeeBo BC/Toronto connection, sumkidz! INTERGALACTIC FAERIE FUNK LIVE DICKARD & BOBBERT sumkidz! on 4 turntables - Toronto Mike Lambert sumkidz! Toronto Leelee Mishi sumkidz! Toronto Francis Wax Windsor, ON electronic music progression SIREN sumkidz! Toronto Down Tempo Grooviness VIOLET Toronto make dub not war come to the brew ha ha for one love one mug! ARIA sumkidz! Toronto www.semiotik.com ZUMBA sumkidz! - Toronto Sircut Breaker....and then some - sumkidz, Toronto Kinder Atom - LIVE - Nice + Smooth, Toronto, www.kinderatom.com Visuals by: Blankfoto Peter Mettler Project 3 Media And the night sky! Installations by: Earth-Art Ian Newton - Zero to One Fire crew Sumkidz and a gnome Alchemist Arena beyond the expected, amid more electronic siblings exists a space where we transmute earthly elements in to the divine. built from the basics, the alchemist arena offers an eclectic mix of positive vibes, organic sounds, and soulful blends. come when you need to share. absorb as much as you dare. let your imagination run free. a place to chill and intoxicate your spirit with [ song :: word :: movement :: magick ] all in the name of [ one love ]. calling all alchemists...poets, emcees, dancers, musicians, wordsmiths, performers of all vibes. if you resonate with [ one love ] and want to participate in our open mic - check the schedule for times. Alize Andrea Thompson Bounce & Friends Breathing Seeds Collective Charlie LittleFingers Cosima DJ Nana & The Love Movement DJ Ef Sharp enlight (aka the ronin) Evren friend of phi Fury echo sound system Gabor Jazz Jaggi Singh Jorgie Porgie Kalmplex LAL lisa luscious tai The NOW Project Oaxerai (aka the philasoph) Other skills Plum dragoness Pojo Randal Fox Slim So-Be-it-Union Telefunk Violet Wakefield Brewster - aka lyrical pitbull Wandering Gypsy Tour Wasabi Collective zAyla weedz -=remember your magick=- Black Light Activists We welcome the opportunity to bring back the sound, light and fury of psychedelic awareness to the Om festival this year. This will be our third time participating and they just keep getting better. This year we will be creating a tighter enviornment, surrounding the participant in a orgasmic sensory stimulation. * Yeb:BLA/ColdGroove * Quivering Virgin:BLA * Jarek:BLA * Sense:BLA/Eloko * Sketi:BLA * Pantha: Detroit * Reptilian:EyeInThe Pyramid * +more TBA Psychedelic Atmospheres by * Invokvyata * Neil Gibson * Jeremy Zuch * vj Guy The Galactic Boogiemen The Ottawa Collective has developed from the passionate underground music and cultural scene in and around the Ottawa region. From the beginning the collective has been like family and the atmosphere is generated from that vibe, there is a unified love of the music that transcends daily life and provides energy. This collective vibe is real. The meshing of different kinds of people through music is something you can feel. We are proud to feature local talent grown from a scene that has generated its own heroes throughout the years. We will provide the sounds, the soul and the life that possess it. Join the Galactic Boogieman to experience music, live art, group hypnosis, friendly competitive games, and environmental awareness. We will also host a costume show and a clothing exchange so If you like dressing up and wearing costumes this is your time to shine!!! Dj Listing * Jaxpratt aka Jeffrey Deep fried House Music * Trevor Walker Afro-beat / Fossilfuel.ca * Rise Ashen Nujazz / Fossilfuel.ca * DJ Odyssey www.sinzproductions.com/juchi.htm * Pedro Dias Magical Music Journey * DJ Rayaz One Unity Records * DJ Muisik Deep House * secretninja Drum n Bass * Adam L & JLarge Chuggin House * Jeremy Deep Funky House * Mike D Deep Tech Funk * DJ Paulo Deepspaced House * DJ Colin Hargreaves Good Vibes Music * CPI Chill Down Tempo * DJ Kore Sneaky Beats * Scotty James Classic House The Electronic Playground Where art meets technology; form meets function. A celebration of technology in music, art and life. Here we pay tribute to our changed lives with music, dancing and interactive art. Become a part of the festivities; dance the night away around the sandbox <ETH> a multimedia stage featuring the most modern and revolutionary electronic music. Witness as dozens of DJs and live electronic artists coax sweet synthetic sound from stacks of synthesizers, computers and turntables. Intense projected visual effects and environmental lighting enhance infectious robot melodies and massive rhythms. Come and play or chill under the monkey bars (in the yurt), where a variety of interactive toys and installations can educate and intrigue you. From interactive video art collages to fun old video games with comfy seats, this is a place to lounge and recharge! Join us where every morning is Saturday morning, as we screen classic cartoons and world-renowned animation, one of the many wonderful art forms afforded to us in recent centuries. Daytime in the playground will feature workshops, improvs and jams at both the sandbox and the monkey bars. Immerse yourself in modern art and science. Learn, interact, integrate enjoy. The Electronic Playground is a collaboration effort brought to you by Afterglow Productions (Toronto), The Electronic Music Progression (Windsor) and the Freespace Collective (Toronto). We have combined all our resources to bring you the best of our art, performers and environments as we try to create a whole, which is greater than the mere sum of its parts. Join us as we journey through the present. Our Musical Talent: * Afxgrin (A.D.M.S, St. Catherine's) - 8 bit nostalgia * Azakite (afterglow, Toronto) - Drum&Bass * Batman (subtransit, Toronto) - Techhaus * Shamus Coghlan (Foundation Music, Toronto) - Minimal Techno * Dharma Lab (dharmalab.com, Buffalo) - Techno / Trance live PA * Divell (Freespace, Toronto) - Techno * Derek Michael [DM] (Hor-zu, Detroit Underground, Windsor) - Techno * DNME (Rugged, BCJ, Windsor) - Jungle * engine (subtransit, Toronto) - Techhaus * evolve (emp-productions.com, Windsor) - Funky / Hard Techno * DJ Forta (Fortics Mgmt, Buffalo) - Sexy Electro / Techno * Fractal Equinox (A.D.M.S, Burlington) - Goa / Acid * francis wAX (EMP, Windsor) - deep techno * Halcyon 23 (Toronto) - Techno Live PA * Jackson 2bears (Foundation Music, Victoria, BC) - Experimental DnB * Jane Shorthand (Freespace, Toronto) - electro * Kero (BPitch, Ghostly Int'l, Detroit Underground, Windsor) - IDM / Techno Live PA * Matt Clarke (Rugged, BCJ, Detroit, MI) - Jungle * MC Flow (Rugged, BCJ, Windsor) * Nebula (Afterglow, Toronto) - Techno / Electro Live PA * Oddmyth (Deep Forest Grooves, Toronto) - Minimal Techno * Psy-clone (R351570R, Toronto) - Warm-up / Dub * Rare Zoo Babies (Toronto) - Psy-techno, ambient * Randy Twigg (clutch, Toronto) - Toronto * Raw B Rob (Rugged, BCJ, Windsor) - Windsor * Ray Vincent (Freespace, Toronto) - Psytrance Live PA * DJ Ruckus (NEC, 905ive, EMP, narcdjs.com, djruckus.com, Windsor) - Funky House / Turntablism * Slipstream (EMP, WTF, Toronto) - Breaks * Stikka (EMP, logixhouse, Windsor) - Funky House * Synapse (afterglow, Toronto) - Breaks, Chillout * Task aka Tom Kuo (Foundation Music, Wabi, Toronto) - Minimal Techno * Tekno Tim (Toronto) - Techno Visual Environments * Kero * PinK:Sox * Dave Marks * Dam * Wunderfly West Side Connection Collaboration between several BC party production crus is bringing a dream to life. We are Omward Bound, travelling in a Biodiesel schoolbus, ready with equipment, anytime, anywhere to throw down. Showcasing our talent and culture, our space will provide a taste of how we like to get a groove on out West. Be it deep throbbing breaks, hoola hoopin madness, or organic bliss treats, we will entice you! Be prepared to share in our joy of the opportunity to OM with yall! The Illage Village Illage Village - Broken beats, electro bleeps, and breakbeats. ill verb -Syn: to chill, relax, party, good-vibe ill adj -Syn: sick, disordered, bad We live in an age of much illness: physical, environmental, social and cultural. The Illage Village will exist to create balance with these negative aspects of the modern 'ill age' as an opposing force of positivity. The Village will be loud with laughter and good-vibes, but most of all: ill beats!! DJs/Performers - Jelo (djjelo.com, 2wars.com) - Robb G (robbg.ca, promorecords.ca, 2wars.com) - Kick (djkick.ca, 2thebeat.com) - The Phat Conductor (thephatconductor.com, 2wars.com) - Lucy Lytes (Destiny, 2wars.com) - Scientifik - Smiles & Chuckles - Gunark - Projection screen with visuals at night, movies and documentaries during the day - Live graff art by Montreal's Kops crew - 802.11 wireless network - bring your laptop to share images, music, download live sets & mp3 lectures - Workshops: Basic Meditation Instruction by Jack Kornfield/Dalai Lama ( videos ) - Ethnobotanical plants and altered states of consciousness: a range of legal substances on site and basic safety information for the curious - Powered by green energy For more information, please visit http://www.omfestival.ca To visit our online community, please visit http://www.omfestival.ca/ommb --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Jun 11 10:14:29 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30629-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.78]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 11 Jun 2004 06:14:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 11 Jun 2004 06:14:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 27424 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 11 Jun 2004 10:14:30 +0000 Received: (qmail 27411 invoked from network); Fri, 11 Jun 2004 10:14:30 +0000 Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2004 12:16:55 +0200 From: derek holzer <xxxxx@x-x.xxx> Subject: [microsound] [OT] Steve Kurtz/Critical Art Ensemble defense protest [NewYork] To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@x-x.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.6 (X11/20040502) X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx OT, but *extremely* important for free speech and the freedom of artists working in the field of technology and politics! See bottom for details about a planned bus from NYC to Buffalo if you are a resident of the Big Apple. On a side note, to the guy who would be "nervous if Steve Kurtz lived next door to him": I have been involved with two events in Holland where CAE set up their small laboratory. And I haven't contracted Anthrax or E.Coli poisoning yet. One was at the travelling World-Information.org exhibition, where CAE set up a greenhouse to grow their reverse-engineered Monsanto linseed-oil plants. These plants were developed with the same technology which Monsanto uses to produce plants which are immune to their "Round-Up"[tm] herbicide, allowing farmers to spray their field with even more poisons than usual. CAE's version was extremely sensitive to "Round-Up"[tm], and if allowed to cross-pollinate with their cousins, would contaminate the strain and render the Monsanto plants useless for their intended purpose. The point of the exhibit was not necessarily to do so, but rather to show that a bunch of artists with no scientific training can educate themselves to become "bio-hackers" and use the same technology as the major corperations against them. Demystification and discussion was the focus, and not biological blackmail. The second event was at Next 5 Minutes 4 in Amsterdam. Steve Kurtz and others brought their portable laboratory which tested foodstuffs for contamination by transgenic materials. In Holland, using genetically modified foodstuffs is not legal. However, there is no agency to regulate this, so it is unknown how widespread the practice actually is. The aim here was to create dialog about genetically modified crops in a public and accessible way. Visitors were supposed to bring food from the McDonald's or Albert Hein accross the square for testing, and return the following day for results. The "laboratory" itself, as has been noted many times by now, was hardly more than my high school chemistry class had [I daresay my high schoool was much better equipped than CAE!]. d. *********************************** PRESS RELEASE: June 8, 2004 Contact: xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx PROTECT US--DONT PROSECUTE US! SECURE LIBERTY--CRITICAL ART ENSEMBLE IS INNOCENT! CALL FOR DEMONSTRATION AT GRAND JURY HEARINGS IN BUFFALO. SUPPORT CRITICAL ART ENSEMBLE, FREE SPEECH RIGHTS, AND FREEDOM OF KNOWLEDGE. The committee to organize CAE Defense is calling for a peaceful demonstration of support outside the Grand Jury hearings on the case of Steve Kurtz (CAE), on June 15th. WHERE: Mahoney Federal Court House, Court St. Buffalo, NY (See map at: www.visitbuffaloniagara.com) WHEN: 9 AM, June 15, 2004 Critical Art Ensemble (CAE) is a collective of internationally recognized artists who work in public, educational, academic and art contexts. Most recently their work has been directed towards providing the general public with awareness and understanding about biological research. The aim of their work is not alarmist or sensational. Through participatory performance experiences CAE provides information and knowledge. It brings people into contact with the reality of scientific research often not accessible to the general public. The work is always undertaken in a safe and considered way, using materials commonly available in scientific education and research practices. The FBI in its efforts to protect the public is now overreaching its mandate by using an overwhelming amount of pressure against a group of artists making their work for the peaceful purpose of vital public discussions. Artists like CAE stimulate public debate necessary to a healthy democracy. Our constitution guarantees the right to freedom of speech and our government is charged with securing that right. The job of democracy is to protect the minority from the tyranny of the majority. In the United States we are not governed by mob rule, nor should government exploit its responsibilities to the public by persecuting innocent people. We too, as citizens must stand up now to affirm our rights and defend our liberty. This is a peaceful demonstration. Please bring signs and banners. Check the website for PDFs of signs and slogans you can print out. CIRCULATE THIS CALL AS WIDELY AS YOU CAN PLEASE BE SURE TO CHECK THE WEBSITE FREQUENTLY FOR UPDATES ON THE DEMO. www.caedefensefund.org A Word About Demonstrations. As with all demonstrations it is advisable to bring personal identification (drivers license, passports, student ids, proof of address, etc.) Let someone know where you are going to be. Stick with a buddy. If you can't join the crew on the bus but want to drive yourself. Driving directions: From Interstate 90 take 33W into downtown all the way to the end. It will put you onto Oak St. Continue on Oak for 2 long blocks to Broadway. Go right on Broadway which runs right into Court St. The first square is Lafayette and then comes Niagara Square. There are paid parking lots all around this downtown area. Information on possible housing will soon be available on website also. BRIEF BACKGROUND STORY: To date Steven Barnes and Dorian Burr, founding members of CAE, as well as Beatriz da Costa and Paul Vanouse, artists who have collaborated with CAE, and artists Adele Henderson and Andrew Johnson, have been served with subpoenas to appear before the federal Grand Jury that will consider bioterrorism charges against University professor Steve Kurtz whose art involves the use of simple biology equipment. The subpoenas are the latest installment in a bizarre investigation in which members of the Joint Terrorism Task Force have mistaken an art project for a biological weapons laboratory (see first press release on www.caedefensefund.org). The artists involved are at a loss to explain the increasingly bizarre case that shows how vulnerable the PATRIOT Act and other post-9/11 security measures have made freedom of speech in this country. According to the subpoenas, the FBI is seeking charges under Section 175 of the US Biological Weapons Anti-Terrorism Act of 1989, which has been expanded by the USA PATRIOT Act to prohibit the possession of "any biological agent, toxin, or delivery system" without the justification of "prophylactic, protective, bona fide research, or other peaceful purpose." (See http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/18/175.html for the 1989 law and http://www.ehrs.upenn.edu/protocols/patriot/sec817.html for its USA PATRIOT Act expansion.) For more detailed information on the nature of CAEs projects and the biological agents they were working with please see the website: www.caedefensefund.org **************************************** SHARON HAYES xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx VALERIE TEVERE xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx BUS FROM NYC TO BUFFALO for PROTEST JUNE 15th Calling for an IMMEDIATE END TO THE INVESTIGATION OF STEVE KURTZ and the CRITICAL ART ENSEMBLE PLEASE CIRCULATE WIDELY TO ANY INTERESTED NYC folks. Sorry for the cross posting. A group of artists in NYC are organizing a bus to go to Buffalo in support of Steve Kurtz from the Critical Art Ensemble (CAE) who is scheduled to appear in front of a Grand Jury in Buffalo on Tuesday June 15th, 9 AM at the Mahoney Federal Court House, Court St. Buffalo, NY. Thus far seven subpoenas have been issued to: Adele Henderson, Chair of the Art Department at UB; Andrew Johnson, Professor of Art at UB; Paul Vanouse, Professor of Art at UB; Beatriz da Costa, Professor of Art at UCI; Steven Barnes, FSU; Dorian Burr and Beverly Schlee. Please see the information about the CAE, the case and the peaceful demonstration attached below or visit www.caedefensefund.org. The plan for the bus from NYC is to leave on the evening of the 14th, drive overnight to be there for the 9am hearing and return that same day to arrive back in New York City on the 15th at night. EXACT DETAILS TO FOLLOW. We are currently researching commercial bus rentals and the type of bus and would like to gauge how many people will be interesting in traveling from the NYC area to Buffalo. The cost could run anywhere from $45 - $70 each based on the amount of travelers and the bus size. If we can get 47 people, we can keep the cost at $45 and make a strong showing in Buffalo. If you are interested and would like to take the bus contact us ASAP as reservations must be made soon and we have to asses the amount of people joining the protest from New York City. SHARON HAYES xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx VALERIE TEVERE xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx Please pass this request on to your mailing lists as we'd like to bring as many people as possible up to Buffalo. It is crucial to have a large presence of supporters for Steve Kurtz and the Critical Art Ensemble. best, Valerie Tevere and Sharon Hayes -- derek holzer ::: http://www.umatic.nl ---Oblique Strategy # 83: "How would someone else do it?" --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Jun 11 06:53:48 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30628-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.42]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 11 Jun 2004 02:53:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 11 Jun 2004 02:53:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 90542 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 11 Jun 2004 06:53:49 +0000 Received: (qmail 90530 invoked from network); Fri, 11 Jun 2004 06:53:48 +0000 Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2004 02:54:43 -0400 From: ben owen <xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] tokyo/offsite In-reply-to: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> X-Originating-IP: [141.149.47.113] X-Sender: xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BCEECF73.D5%xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.4.030702.0 X-Originating-Email: [xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Jun 2004 06:53:40.0991 (UTC) FILETIME=[D45428F0:01C44F80] On 6/10/04 4:18 PM, "scott allison" <xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote: > In a recent and/oar update, Sawako has a list of good bye dates set, > (Japan?) before she moves to NYC, I dont have those dates on hand, From asuna'a webpage : http://fox.zero.ad.jp/cocoa/asuna_04.html 2004.06.12 (sat) , Œã?XØOFF SITE , "Joel Stern + Anyhony Guerra Japan Tour" * Joel Stern & sawako / Anyhony Guerra & asuna --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Jun 11 06:48:51 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30627-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.75]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 11 Jun 2004 02:48:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 11 Jun 2004 02:48:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 88747 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 11 Jun 2004 06:48:51 +0000 Received: (qmail 88736 invoked from network); Fri, 11 Jun 2004 06:48:51 +0000 Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2004 09:48:35 +0300 (EEST) From: Karri Ojanen <xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] koneisto (microsound in riga, latvia and tallinn, estonia) In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@x-x.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxx.xx.xxx.xx.x.xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.2 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx-xxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@x-x.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx > Of course, in Tallin there is events around the ISEA festival: > http://www.isea2004.net > including the Koneisto festival: > http://www.koneisto.com > and a Mutek showcase featuring Skoltz_Kolgen: > http://www.skoltzkolgen.com Koneisto is actually across the Gulf of Finland, in Helsinki, Finland, not in Tallinn. Check out www.koneisto.com for more. And the Mutek showcase is at Koneisto in Helsinki (Akufen+Crackhaus), and on board the ISEA cruise which leaves Helsinki for Stockholm on Sunday, August 15 and gets to Tallinn on Tuesday, August 17. www.isea2004.net for more info. Cheers, Karri O. ------------------------- www.monorecords.com www.abflugrec.com - !!!Abflug lounge at ISEA 2004!!! --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Jun 11 05:42:12 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30626-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.78]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 11 Jun 2004 01:42:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 11 Jun 2004 01:42:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 72661 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 11 Jun 2004 05:42:11 +0000 Received: (qmail 72651 invoked from network); Fri, 11 Jun 2004 05:42:11 +0000 Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2004 22:42:11 -0700 From: Thad Biggerstaff <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] data -> sound examples; subjectivity; pattern; rawness To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <000f01c44f76$d8290a40$xxxxxxxx@xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 0424-2, 06/09/2004), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <BCEE91A8.20CBA%xxxxxxxx@xxxx-xxxx.xxx> <000901c44f5e$792e3cd0$xxxxxxxx@xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx > >>>> forgetting (at least) > >>>> the subjective and relational dimensions that are involved. > >>> -Thereby reducing the inherent quality? > >> More subjective process always equals better art? > > better art strives or points towards the objective > > Now we're getting somewhere :) To continue the pattern I will say > "subjective." Or at least, this tendency strives towards the objective > but the direction it's travelling reflects where it's coming from (the > subject). i couldnt have said it better myself ;) > > It maybe that this urge to > > find unmediated sound structures ... is a > > very contemporary form of reification > > Could it also (or instead) be idealism, an interest in "pure" pattern > or form, with a consciousness of the arbitrary / limited nature of any > realisation? Once again we're getting into Western Art Music territory > here. In microsound/etc I think any such urge tends to be balanced by > the sensory pleasures of _feeling_ data, wherever it may come from. > > On the possibility or not of "raw data", maybe "pattern" is a concept > that would help - so pattern could be opposed to format - it's the > abstract content of the data. Question is, does the data contain one or > many patterns? If the answer is many, then any mapping, any format, any > ordering or scanning, will produce _a_ pattern, and are they all > equally valid (or raw)? If the data contains _one_ pattern, then how do > we find the format / mapping that reveals it? Or do we have to listen > to all possible formats/mappings, and get a kind of Gestalt pattern? I > think again you end up with subjectivity, as in use value or > applicaton. The pattern you're seeking depends on what you want to do > with it, on what you're listening for... as well as the pattern(s) that are there to be percieved. as I am understanding it, "use value or application" is ultimately a factor of whats there to work with and ones capacity to work with it. "A shadow is cast by something- therefore somewhere, there is an original shape or form. A reflection in a looking glass, in a stream or in a bowl of water is a reflection of something, so it is true, something must be there. But we should be concerned with what has cast the shadow, what light or what image caused the shadow, or what image caused the relection in that looking glass, stream, or bowl of water. If we continue- as some philospophers have- to concern ourselves with the nature of the shadow or the reflection, rather than looking at what caused or gave its nature to the shadow, then we divert ourselves away from the mainstream activity." -Omar Ali Shah He's speaking specifically about superstition, magic and ritual, but it seems to at least somewhat apply here as well. -thad Thad Biggerstaff xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx "Not to forget, I 'museumize' myself; so that then I pay myself a visit and find me again in all the relics, to hand down memories from one to the other, like a genealogical tree, as if it were morning!" - Massimo Toniutti --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Jun 11 05:19:56 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30625-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.70]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 11 Jun 2004 01:19:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 11 Jun 2004 01:19:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 66049 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 11 Jun 2004 05:19:56 +0000 Received: (qmail 66037 invoked from network); Fri, 11 Jun 2004 05:19:56 +0000 Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2004 01:19:50 -0400 From: billy <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] detailed plastikman review @ mutek In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.618) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx snap! On Jun 10, 2004, at 9:07 PM, graham miller wrote: > i didn't realize it was still 1993. > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Jun 11 05:08:50 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30624-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.42]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 11 Jun 2004 01:08:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 11 Jun 2004 01:08:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 61466 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 11 Jun 2004 05:08:46 +0000 Received: (qmail 61456 invoked from network); Fri, 11 Jun 2004 05:08:46 +0000 Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2004 15:08:34 +1000 From: Mitchell Whitelaw <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] data -> sound examples; subjectivity; pattern; rawness In-reply-to: <000901c44f5e$792e3cd0$xxxxxxxx@xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.618) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <BCEE91A8.20CBA%xxxxxxxx@xxxx-xxxx.xxx> <000901c44f5e$792e3cd0$xxxxxxxx@xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx > on a tangent, i wonder if anybody here works with > using something like soundhack to gather data for > instrumental composition... Gavin Stevens has posted on the databenders group about some piano pieces made by going bitmap -> WAV -> MIDI -> score... >>>> forgetting (at least) >>>> the subjective and relational dimensions that are involved. >>> -Thereby reducing the inherent quality? >> More subjective process always equals better art? > better art strives or points towards the objective Now we're getting somewhere :) To continue the pattern I will say "subjective." Or at least, this tendency strives towards the objective but the direction it's travelling reflects where it's coming from (the subject). > It maybe that this urge to > find unmediated sound structures ... is a > very contemporary form of reification Could it also (or instead) be idealism, an interest in "pure" pattern or form, with a consciousness of the arbitrary / limited nature of any realisation? Once again we're getting into Western Art Music territory here. In microsound/etc I think any such urge tends to be balanced by the sensory pleasures of _feeling_ data, wherever it may come from. On the possibility or not of "raw data", maybe "pattern" is a concept that would help - so pattern could be opposed to format - it's the abstract content of the data. Question is, does the data contain one or many patterns? If the answer is many, then any mapping, any format, any ordering or scanning, will produce _a_ pattern, and are they all equally valid (or raw)? If the data contains _one_ pattern, then how do we find the format / mapping that reveals it? Or do we have to listen to all possible formats/mappings, and get a kind of Gestalt pattern? I think again you end up with subjectivity, as in use value or applicaton. The pattern you're seeking depends on what you want to do with it, on what you're listening for... In the Listening to the Mind Listening project it was amazing how may reviewers were impressed that sonifiers had successfully turned 36 channels of EEG/body trace into "music". Eureka! The brain, listening to music, sounds like music! It all depends what you're listening for. Mitchell Mitchell Whitelaw Visiting Advanced Audio Interfaces, CSIRO ICT Centre http://www.ce.canberra.edu.au/staff/mitchellwhitelaw --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? 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(VPS 0424-2, 06/09/2004), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <BCEE91A8.20CBA%xxxxxxxx@xxxx-xxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > >> forgetting (at least) > >> the subjective and relational dimensions that are involved. > > > -Thereby reducing the inherent quality? > > More subjective process always equals better art? better art strives or points towards the objective -thad Thad Biggerstaff xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx "Not to forget, I 'museumize' myself; so that then I pay myself a visit and find me again in all the relics, to hand down memories from one to the other, like a genealogical tree, as if it were morning!" - Massimo Toniutti --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Jun 11 02:31:17 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30622-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.72]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 10 Jun 2004 22:31:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 10 Jun 2004 22:31:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 18381 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 11 Jun 2004 02:31:17 +0000 Received: (qmail 18371 invoked from network); Fri, 11 Jun 2004 02:31:17 +0000 Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2004 22:31:04 -0400 From: Kurt Ralske <xxxxxxxx@xxxx-xxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] data -> sound examples In-reply-to: <l03130303bcee715dd285@[213.84.105.55]> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BCEE91A8.20CBA%xxxxxxxx@xxxx-xxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.0.2006 X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> forgetting (at least) >> the subjective and relational dimensions that are involved. > -Thereby reducing the inherent quality? More subjective process always equals better art? --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Jun 11 02:25:54 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30621-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.78]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 10 Jun 2004 22:25:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 10 Jun 2004 22:25:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 15032 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 11 Jun 2004 02:25:54 +0000 Received: (qmail 15022 invoked from network); Fri, 11 Jun 2004 02:25:54 +0000 Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2004 22:27:37 -0400 From: graham miller <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] detailed plastikman review @ mutek To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73C-SYMPA (Macintosh; U; PPC) Content-type: text/plain; x-mac-creator=4D4F5353; x-mac-type=54455854; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en,fr-CA Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> <005a01c44f52$2d4adcd0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx no where near as good as last year. the rest of mutek, however, was superb as usual. highlights for me included steve roy ( i must bring him to toronto), the entire raster-norton showcase (awesome visuals - i'm sold on gebnerative graphics - where do i sign up?), jason forrest (the t. raumschmiere of this year), and crackhaus (great fun - great guys). poor richie... all that shiny expensive gear gone wonky and all he had to do was just ask to borrow my 808... it would have sounded the same. g. Yatra Galaxy wrote: > heard it was a disappointment > ----- Original Message ----- > From: graham miller > To: Microsound > Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 9:07 PM > Subject: [microsound] detailed plastikman review @ mutek > > i didn't realize it was still 1993. > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Jun 11 02:07:38 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30620-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.69]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 10 Jun 2004 22:07:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 10 Jun 2004 22:07:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 6494 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 11 Jun 2004 02:07:38 +0000 Received: (qmail 6476 invoked from network); Fri, 11 Jun 2004 02:07:37 +0000 Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2004 12:07:30 +1000 From: Ian Andrews <x.xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] data -> sound examples In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BCEF5102.EB02%x.xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.4.030702.0 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx Hi Dennis, No unfortunately not. I've been meaning to do something with them for ages but just haven't got around to it. ian Dennis McNultywrote: > Hi Ian, > > both of these sound great. Do you have any recordings of them(online)?? > > d. > >> From: Ian Andrews <x.xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx.xx> > >> My own efforts: > >> Instead I went about pulling EPROMs >> out of discarded computers and other equipment that I'd find in skips or by >> the side of the road........... From >> some I got quite interesting results. From others I'd just get white noise. > >> A few years ago I did a performance with a SW radio and a Roland EF-303 >> effects processor & step sequencer. The radio picked up the raw data from >> the unearthed EF-303 and the output of the radio was fed back into the >> EF-303. This feedback loop could be "played" like a Theremin by moving the >> radio around in the air. > ______________________________ > http://dennismcnulty.com > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Jun 11 02:03:11 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30619-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.75]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 10 Jun 2004 22:03:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 10 Jun 2004 22:02:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 4528 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 11 Jun 2004 02:03:10 +0000 Received: (qmail 4518 invoked from network); Fri, 11 Jun 2004 02:03:09 +0000 Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2004 12:03:02 +1000 From: Ian Andrews <x.xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] data -> sound examples In-reply-to: <000901c44f1b$ad337b00$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BCEF4FF6.EB00%x.xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.4.030702.0 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx Christopher Sorgwrote: >>> The shift thats happening isn't as direct as, for example, >> playing a >>> bitmap as a raw sound file (and I think there are a few different >>> problems with this kind of format shifting, too). >> >> I agree... you're mainly hearing 'format', not data > > I disagree. Yes, a bitmap (BMP format) is a specifically-formatted > image, with a header, pixel data, and a bottom-to-top approach to it's > pixel list. JPEGs are compressed, so the data is not raw, so you are > also hearing "format". However, if you took a digital camera that > produced raw data files (which many do), it does not have any particular > formating per se; merely the output from the CCDs listed in a linear > fashion, typically from left to right, top to bottom. Of course, this > is a convention/format, to read the pixel values in this way, but so is > reading music from left to right, and notating the lengths of sounds > with solid or open circles. > "raw data," however, is not really very interesting sonically. Its just a series of 1s & 0s (as it is stored) and as a high frequency chain of square waves (as it is read out). If it is heard in its "native" form it it is usually a series of clicks plus a whole lot of stuff up in the MHz region that cannot be heard. It needs to be translated to something audible. The found data-cassette is not really raw-data, it is modulated data, of a certain scheme (AM, FM, SSB) on a certain frequency carrier. The found eprom is not "raw data" either, its format shifting, where the raw data is translated in a way which is different from the intended format. I don't see this as a problem. What I do see as a problem, is when an artist insists on an ontological connection between the source (via/or its data) and the sound. Eg. Between image and musical result. This is often described by the artist as "this is what that picture sounds like." rather that "this is one interpretation/translation (among many) of this image (which is a particular format - number of pixels(resolution), bit depth, etc). Not only do I find this kind of synaesthetic justification uninteresting, I also think that its loaded with problems. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Jun 11 01:27:44 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30618-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.74]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 10 Jun 2004 21:27:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 10 Jun 2004 21:27:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 92600 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 11 Jun 2004 01:27:43 +0000 Received: (qmail 92590 invoked from network); Fri, 11 Jun 2004 01:27:43 +0000 Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2004 21:27:26 -0400 From: Paulo Mouat <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: RE: [microsound] data -> sound examples (spectralism) In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: 'microsound' <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Thread-index: AcRPGep8DivbOWn6S1WgfmPFCtgy0gANlVYQ Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-MailScanner-Information: Please contact CWIHosting.com for more information X-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - t8.cwihosting.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - hyperreal.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 99] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - dmethods.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx > on a tangent, i wonder if anybody here works with using > something like soundhack to gather data for instrumental > composition... spectralist or otherwise... i've been > experimenting myself with composing for instruments in lisp > using miscellaneous data-sources gathered using pure-data or > soundhack... > > just wondering how much the microsound and other academic > new-music communities cross... Absolutely, although due to the usual constraints of actually having instrumentalists play the music I have been lately doing the reverse: Create music by electronic means whose events and criteria are completely based in the (mostly microscopic) acoustic phenomena generated by regular classical orchestra instruments. To achieve that I recorded and/or analyzed the sound of acoustic instruments and phrases done with them. It certainly doesn't sound like Grisey or Murail (for one, they don't use electronic/processed sound that often), but then I don't have the backing of a professional ensemble or orchestra to render the works. Some late works: http://www.interdisciplina.org/00.0/ //Paulo --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Jun 11 01:19:50 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30617-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.69]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 10 Jun 2004 21:19:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 10 Jun 2004 21:19:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 90229 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 11 Jun 2004 01:19:49 +0000 Received: (qmail 90219 invoked from network); Fri, 11 Jun 2004 01:19:48 +0000 Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2004 21:19:43 -0400 From: Yatra Galaxy <xxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] detailed plastikman review @ mutek To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <005a01c44f52$2d4adcd0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_Nb0F9MeNFO4UhQdU0KltRQ)" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_Nb0F9MeNFO4UhQdU0KltRQ) Content-Type: text/plain; Charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit heard it was a disappointment ----- Original Message ----- From: graham miller To: Microsound Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 9:07 PM Subject: [microsound] detailed plastikman review @ mutek i didn't realize it was still 1993. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org --Boundary_(ID_Nb0F9MeNFO4UhQdU0KltRQ)-- From ???@??? Fri Jun 11 01:06:12 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30616-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.75]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 10 Jun 2004 21:06:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 10 Jun 2004 21:05:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 83774 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 11 Jun 2004 01:06:10 +0000 Received: (qmail 83764 invoked from network); Fri, 11 Jun 2004 01:06:10 +0000 Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2004 21:07:53 -0400 From: graham miller <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] detailed plastikman review @ mutek To: Microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73C-SYMPA (Macintosh; U; PPC) Content-type: text/plain; x-mac-creator=4D4F5353; x-mac-type=54455854; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en,fr-CA Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx i didn't realize it was still 1993. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Jun 10 23:11:25 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30615-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta10.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta10.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.85]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 10 Jun 2004 19:11:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta10.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 10 Jun 2004 19:11:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 50430 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 10 Jun 2004 23:11:23 +0000 Received: (qmail 50420 invoked from network); Thu, 10 Jun 2004 23:11:23 +0000 Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2004 19:11:06 -0400 From: Paulo Mouat <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: RE: [microsound] Mathematician Claims Proof For Riemann Hypothesis In-reply-to: <BCEDCCAB.1FD27%xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: 'microsound' <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Thread-index: AcRPAMZgkdqjIsl+QVmesqj/dUjOtQAPnc2g Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-MailScanner-Information: Please contact CWIHosting.com for more information X-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - t8.cwihosting.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - hyperreal.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 99] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - dmethods.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx There's a demo notebook in Mathematica that does exactly that. I have extended it to generate an arbitrarily large timespan without any memory restrictions. It's not fantastically interesting, though... Sounds like several parallel tones in a slow upward glissando that tends to an asymptote. Can provide an mp3 if anyone is interested. //Paulo > -----Original Message----- > From: Kim Cascone [mailto:xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx] > Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 11:31 AM > To: microsound_list > Subject: [microsound] Mathematician Claims Proof For Riemann > Hypothesis > > http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2004/06/040609070717.htm > > this is very interesting as I just finished a book while in > Greece titled: > 'The Music of the Primes : Searching to Solve the Greatest > Mystery in Mathematics' by Marcus du Sautoy...highly recommended BTW! > in the book the author makes mention of how a scientist > sonified the zeros along the critical line at 0.5 in the zeta > function...does anyone know if there is an mp3 of this online > somewhere? > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Jun 10 22:10:51 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30614-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.69]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 10 Jun 2004 18:10:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 10 Jun 2004 18:10:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 27271 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 10 Jun 2004 22:10:49 +0000 Received: (qmail 27261 invoked from network); Thu, 10 Jun 2004 22:10:48 +0000 Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2004 00:10:45 +0200 From: ale*** <xxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] tokyo To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <01f401c44f37$c841af40$xxxxxxxx@xxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx@xxxx.xxxxxx.xx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roland Hausheer" <xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xx> To: "microsound" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> > i go to tokyo next week and i'm just courios if some of you > have a recommendation for a club or art gallery (ICC i know...) to > check. > hints for other places in japan are also welcome... I suggest you to check the Loop Line, it's a small art cafe, they regulary held experimental sound performances. It's a nice place run by nice people, highly recommended. http://www.loop-line.jp/ The Spiral Hall is another place I'd check out. Best, ale*** --- http://www.12k.com/term/term10.htm --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Jun 10 21:05:35 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30613-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.70]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 10 Jun 2004 17:05:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 10 Jun 2004 17:05:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 1624 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 10 Jun 2004 21:05:31 +0000 Received: (qmail 1614 invoked from network); Thu, 10 Jun 2004 21:05:30 +0000 Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2004 17:05:10 -0400 From: "tobias c. van Veen" <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] microsound in riga, latvia and tallinn, estonia In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx-xxxxxx.xxx> To: Microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>, artificial eye <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx.xx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BCEE4546.131E7%xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.4.030702.0 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx > hi all, > i'm planning a trip to riga in latvia and tallinn in estonia august JULY : > > *** FIRST ANNOUNCEMENT *** > > > .......................................................... > > ACOUSTIC SPACE: RT32 > > ORCHESTRATING THE SOLAR SYSTEM > > an event celebrating the 10th Anniversary > of the Ventspils International Radio Astronomy Centre [ VIRAC ] > a collaboration RIXC, VIRAC & r a d i o q u a l i a > > .......................................................... > > > RIXC, VIRAC & r a d i o q u a l i a invite local and international guests > to join us for a unique event: > > ACOUSTIC SPACE: RT32 > > Date: 22.07.04 > Time: 1000 - 2100 > Location: Riga & Irbene, Latvia > > > INTRODUCTION > > On 22 July 1994 a very special event in recent Latvian history transpired. > The Soviet military returned a previously clandestine radio antenna, which > had been concealed in the forests of Western Latvia, back to the Latvian > people. The 32 metre wide radio antenna, christened RT32, turned out to be > one of the most significant technical facilities for listening to high > frequency radio communication in Northern Europe. > > Ten years later, RT32 has been converted from military to scientific use, > and is being managed by the Ventspils International Radio Astronomy Centre > (VIRAC) <http://www.virac.lv>. Now, rather than listening to earth-bound > data, as it did during its espionage days, RT32 turns it's face toward the > sun, listening to planets, stars and the moon. > > Acoustic Space: RT32 will be a very special event to celebrate the first 10 > years of VIRAC's work. It will highlight VIRAC's scientific achievements, > and also address VIRAC's important role in bringing cultural concerns, > tactical media and art into the sphere of astronomical operations. > > Acoustic Space: RT32 will feature an excursion from Riga to the site of the > telescopes at Irbene, a press conference by VIRAC scientists, a panel > discussion with astronomers and artists, a reception, a preview of the > project Radio Astronomy by r a d i o q u a l i a and performances by sound > artists, including a special appearance by the Solar System Orchestra > Ensemble. > > > BACKGROUND > > In 1994 the existence of RT32, plus two smaller dishes, and a > communications centre was revealed to the Latvian people. The facilities > formed the communication and command centre, 'Zveolsdoshka' - Russian for > Little Star. Zveolsdoshka was built by the Soviet military and was used by > the KGB to spy on data transmissions between Europe and North-America > during the Cold War. Zveolsdoshka was kept secret for most of its > existence. Normal citizens of Latvia had no idea it existed and the whole > area around it was closed to the public. > > When the occupying forces of the Soviet military withdrew from Latvia in > 1993, they abandoned Zveolsdoshka. The military were reluctant to give > these technical resources to the Latvian Government, and entertained the > idea of blowing up the satellite dishes. Pressure from the scientific > community dissuaded them, but RT32 was sabotaged by the retreating forces. > Acid was poured into its motors; nails were driven through the electrical > wires, and all the technical plans and schematics explaining how the dish > worked were removed. The dish was effectively ruined. > Since this point, a small group of Latvian scientists have dedicated > themselves to the restoration of RT32. Working without any technical > specifications, and with minimal financial support, they have managed the > remarkable feat of restoring the dish back to working order. > > Acoustic Space: RT32 will celebrate their achievements and give the > scientists at VIRAC an opportunity to discuss their work to a local and > international audience. > > > ABOUT Acoustic Space: RT32 > > - Press Conference > VIRAC will deliver a press conference to invited local and international > journalists highlighting their past ten years' activities. The press > conference will be an opportunity for local print and broadcast journalists > to report on VIRAC's valuable contribution to science research in Latvia, > and for international journalists to report on the significance of VIRAC's > facilities. > > - Panel Discussion > A panel discussion with invited guests would contextualise the work VIRAC > have undertaken using RT32 and the other antennae, within international > radio astronomical practice. Special consideration will be paid to VIRAC's > pioneering role in bringing science and art closer together, through its > collaborations with the RIXC Cultural Centre <http://www.rixc.lv> on the > production of the Acoustic Space Lab > <http://acoustic.space.re-lab.net/lab/>, and other activities. The panel > will feature local speakers alongside international guests, who have > special experience of working with radio astronomy in research, education > and cultural contexts. Invited international speakers include: > > - RT32/Acoustic Space Lab DVD Installation > RIXC's DVD production, RT32 charts the history of the RT32 antenna and the > other facilities at Irbene, as well as summarising the activities of the > Acoustic Space Lab event. The DVD has been screened at museums, festivals, > and universities internationally. Acoustic Space: RT32 will host a > reception to celebrate the installation of the RT32 DVD as a permanent > display at VIRAC. > > - Preview of Radio Astronomy Project > Radio Astronomy <http://www.radioqualia-astronomy.net> is an art/science > project by r a d i o q u a l i a developed in collaboration with NASA's > Radio Jove Network (USA), the Windward Community College Radio Observatory > (USA) and VIRAC. It will enable listeners to tune into to different > celestial frequencies, hearing planets, stars, and the constant hiss of > cosmic noise. It will reveal the sonic character of objects in our galaxy, > and in the process perhaps make these phenomena more tangible and > comprehensible. The project is indeed radio astronomy in the literal sense > - a radio station devoted to broadcasting sounds from space. > > - Sound art and music performances > Radiation received by radio telescopes can be made audible using radio > technologies. Acoustic Space: RT32 will feature performances of > soundscapes, electronic music and sound art created using audio captured > from the VIRAC radio telescope by Clausthome (LV), r a d i o q u a l i a > (NZ/LV) and the Solar System Orchestra Ensemble (MW). > > > PROVISIONAL TIMETABLE > > 1000 - 1300 Excursion from Riga to Irbene > > 1300 - 1400 Welcome & lunch > > 1400 - 1430 Press Conference > > 1430 - 1545 Presentations and panel discussion, contextualising the > role of VIRAC within the international radio astronomy community > > 1545 - 1630 Reception to unveil the Acoustic Space Lab DVD display & > preview the Radio Astronomy project > > 16:30 - 18:30 Sound performances by the Solar System Orchestra Ensemble > and other artists > > 1830 - 2130 Excursion from Irbene to Riga > > > PARTICIPATE > > You are cordially invited to join RIXC and VIRAC for this unique event. A > limited number of tickets will be made available to local and international > guests for a nominal fee. The ticket will cover the cost of the excursion > from Riga to Irbene, the discussions, performances, reception & fine > Latvian fare on site at Irbene. > > If you wish to attend please contact: > > Signe Pucena > Ph: +371 7228478 > Email: xxxxx@xxxx.xx > > OR > > Honor Harger > Email: xxxxx@xx.xxx.xx > > > Riga Centre for New Media Culture RIXC > 11 Novembra Krastmala 35 - 201 > LV 1050 Riga > Latvia > http://www.rixc.lv > > > END tobias c. van Veen ----------- http://www.quadrantcrossing.org http://www.thisistheonlyart.com ---McGill Communications------ ICQ: 18766209 | AIM: thesaibot --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Jun 10 20:53:05 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30612-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.74]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 10 Jun 2004 16:53:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 10 Jun 2004 16:53:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 97255 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 10 Jun 2004 20:53:01 +0000 Received: (qmail 97223 invoked from network); Thu, 10 Jun 2004 20:53:01 +0000 Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2004 16:52:42 -0400 From: "tobias c. van Veen" <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] sonar 2004 + coldcreation gallery, 16 june To: Microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BCEE425A.131DA%xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.4.030702.0 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx dear List, I will be at Sonar this year. Drop me a line if you will be kicking around. For those in town, I will be doing a gallery performance (turntables) on the 16th of June as well: Miercoles 16 Junio - 21 h Game¹s Addiction (Sound Live Act) tobias c. van Veen (Performance Sonoro) Coldcreation Gallery C/ Aragón 379, Barcelona 08013, España +34 93 457 97 53 http://www.coldcreation.com a+ tobias tobias c. van Veen ----------- http://www.quadrantcrossing.org http://www.thisistheonlyart.com ---McGill Communications------ ICQ: 18766209 | AIM: thesaibot --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Jun 10 20:44:46 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30611-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.78]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 10 Jun 2004 16:44:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 10 Jun 2004 16:44:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 91864 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 10 Jun 2004 20:44:41 +0000 Received: (qmail 91854 invoked from network); Thu, 10 Jun 2004 20:44:41 +0000 Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2004 22:47:10 +0200 From: derek holzer <xxxxx@x-x.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] microsound in riga, latvia and tallinn, estonia In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx-xxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@x-x.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.6 (X11/20040502) X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx-xxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx artificial eye wrote: > i'm planning a trip to riga in latvia and tallinn in estonia august / september time this year. does anyone know of > any clubs, bars galleries museums that be of worth visiting by someone with a wide interest in the art / sound > world of microsound? That's funny, Sara Kolster and I are planning a tour through Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia from August to October ;-) Details to come soon on this list, I promise... First place in Riga to contact would be the Audiot label. They are pretty much the focal point of interesting music in Latvia, and can turn you on to a lot of interesting artists form the Baltic region. Kiryll Lomunov is the head of the project, and half of the group Oloolo, along with Rodion Zolotarev [who speaks far better English than Kiryll... how is your Russian, BTW? ;-)]. Max Shentelev [aka My-ym] is also one very interesting artist and downright nice guy on this label. http://www.audiot.lv/ The RIXC is an arts center who host a lot of events to do with electronic communications, open source, new media, webstreaming, networked society, etc. Although not entirely related music, they are very nice people! Rasa and Raitis Smits are the directors, and Ieva Auzina or Signe Pucina are two lovely ladies to chat with [if they aren't too busy!]. http://www.rixc.lv/ If you are up for a real trek into the bush, look up John Grzinich at the MOKS center in Mooste, Estonia. Sara and I will be participating in the PostsovkhoZ 4 event there from 6-16 August. http://mooste.ee/mogs/arhiiv/PostsovkhoZ/PS4/story.html Of course, in Tallin there is events around the ISEA festival: http://www.isea2004.net including the Koneisto festival: http://www.koneisto.com and a Mutek showcase featuring Skoltz_Kolgen: http://www.skoltzkolgen.com enjoy! d. -- derek holzer ::: http://www.umatic.nl ---Oblique Strategy # 44: "Discard an axiom" --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Jun 10 20:18:14 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30610-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.42]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 10 Jun 2004 16:18:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 10 Jun 2004 16:18:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 82698 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 10 Jun 2004 20:18:11 +0000 Received: (qmail 82687 invoked from network); Thu, 10 Jun 2004 20:18:11 +0000 Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2004 20:18:09 +0000 From: scott allison <xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] tokyo/offsite X-Originating-IP: [68.165.209.33] X-Sender: xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Bcc: Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Originating-Email: [xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Jun 2004 20:18:09.0271 (UTC) FILETIME=[0C0D7070:01C44F28] In a recent and/oar update, Sawako has a list of good bye dates set, (Japan?) before she moves to NYC, I dont have those dates on hand, but I think she is loosely part of the off-site community, I could and mostly likely am totally wrong on that though. Dale? -Scott Allison _________________________________________________________________ Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee® Security. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Jun 10 20:14:41 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30609-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.78]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 10 Jun 2004 16:14:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 10 Jun 2004 16:14:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 79967 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 10 Jun 2004 20:14:38 +0000 Received: (qmail 79957 invoked from network); Thu, 10 Jun 2004 20:14:38 +0000 Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2004 22:14:33 +0200 From: Arie van Schutterhoef <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> Subject: RE: [microsound] data -> sound examples In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxxx.xx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <l03130303bcee715dd285@[213.84.105.55]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx >forgetting (at least) >the subjective and relational dimensions that are involved. -Thereby reducing the inherent quality? AvS . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ...................................................................... ` |Schreck Ensemble . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . + ` |# -laboratory for live electro-acoustic music- # | | http://www.schreck.nl/ | | http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/ | ` *===========================================================++ ` |Compositions http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/compo.html | ` |Samples http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/samp.html | ` |Patches http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/pat.html | ` |Videos http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/video.html | ` |Scores http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/scores.html | *===========================================================++ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ...................................................................... --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Jun 10 20:02:31 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30608-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.70]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 10 Jun 2004 16:02:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 10 Jun 2004 16:02:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 72406 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 10 Jun 2004 20:02:29 +0000 Received: (qmail 72339 invoked from network); Thu, 10 Jun 2004 20:02:29 +0000 Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2004 23:07:58 +0300 From: christos carras <xxx@xxxxxx.xx> Subject: RE: [microsound] data -> sound examples In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: 'microsound' <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Thread-index: AcRO2VJeyCYmMS7nQ8anWPuSZcYYpgATBgsA Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx "I think (in many cases) it's got more to do with data per se - or at least, a cultural idea about data as a stuff or substance, or as a sphere of activity." MW this is a core issue in my opinion: the perception of data as somehow being unmediated by subjective preference, at least at the level of the sonic result. This desire to circumvent the subject has been at the heart of many avant-garde processes (including extreme forms of serialism). However it seems clear that - as human constructs - all forms of data are bearers of a rationality that is not transparent. It maybe that this urge to find unmediated sound structures and identifying data sets, streams, bases (in whatever form) with such an "essential" structure in the process, is a very contemporary form of reification, in other words forgetting (at least) the subjective and relational dimensions that are involved. christos --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Jun 10 19:55:11 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30607-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.78]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 10 Jun 2004 15:55:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 10 Jun 2004 15:55:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 67286 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 10 Jun 2004 19:55:06 +0000 Received: (qmail 67275 invoked from network); Thu, 10 Jun 2004 19:55:06 +0000 Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2004 12:54:58 -0700 (PDT) From: xxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx Subject: Re: [microsound] tokyo In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxx.xx.xxx.xxx.x.xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.2 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <BCEDE5EF.3BFF%xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx sound check the star pine's cafe in kichijyoji, tokyo http://www.mandala.gr.jp/spc.html galeries: http://www.scaithebathhouse.com/main/01news/news/en.html http://www.shugoarts.com/jp/index.html http://www.takaishiigallery.com/ paz J21 justino aka jorge bachmann sculpture-photography-sound P.O.Box 15953 San Francisco, CA 94115-0953 M-415-706-9629 W-415-750-3517 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Jun 10 19:40:38 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30606-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.75]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 10 Jun 2004 15:40:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 10 Jun 2004 15:40:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 59386 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 10 Jun 2004 19:40:36 +0000 Received: (qmail 59376 invoked from network); Thu, 10 Jun 2004 19:40:36 +0000 Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2004 12:40:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Praemedia <xxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] tokyo/offsite In-reply-to: <BCEE069E.3C17%xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx Actually, I may be wrong. See http://www.japanimprov.com/baraoyama/index.html (including map). Anyone know for sure if this series is still going? cheers. lance grabmiller www.praemedia.com --- Kendra Juul <xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote: > > Really? That's too bad! When did it close down? > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Yahoo! Messenger. http://messenger.yahoo.com/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Jun 10 19:34:42 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30605-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.72]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 10 Jun 2004 15:34:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 10 Jun 2004 15:34:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 55148 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 10 Jun 2004 19:34:38 +0000 Received: (qmail 55137 invoked from network); Thu, 10 Jun 2004 19:34:37 +0000 Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2004 12:37:50 -0700 From: Kendra Juul <xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] tokyo/offsite In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BCEE069E.3C17%xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.4.030702.0 X-imss-version: 2.0 X-imss-result: Passed X-imss-scores: Clean:55.34341 C:20 M:1 S:5 R:5 X-imss-settings: Baseline:1 C:1 M:1 S:1 R:1 (0.0000 0.0000) X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Jun 2004 19:34:34.0831 (UTC) FILETIME=[F5B98DF0:01 C44F21] Really? That's too bad! When did it close down? > From: Praemedia <xxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> > Reply-To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> > Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2004 10:19:29 -0700 (PDT) > To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> > Subject: Re: [microsound] tokyo > > Coorect me if I'm wrong, but I believe Offsite is no > longer. > > though fader sometimes puts on some interesting events > - see www.faderbyheadz.com and there is also an > excellent show being put on by cubicmusic sometime in > June - see www.cubicmusic.com (and also > www.christopherwillits.com for the rest of his > Japanese tour, which might point you to some > interesting venues). > > cheers. > > lance grabmiller > www.praemedia.com > > --- Kendra Juul <xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote: >> There is a venue called "Offsite" that is fantastic! >> Check it out! > > > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Yahoo! 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Thu Jun 10 19:22:27 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30604-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.68]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 10 Jun 2004 15:22:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 10 Jun 2004 15:22:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 47850 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 10 Jun 2004 19:22:25 +0000 Received: (qmail 47839 invoked from network); Thu, 10 Jun 2004 19:22:24 +0000 Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2004 04:22:23 +0900 From: vokoi kazunovsky <xxxxxxx@xxxx-xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] tokyo In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BCEEE3F3.418F%xxxxxxx@xxxx-xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.0.6 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx ProgressiveForm regular event in Friday of next week. foma... http://www.bul-lets.com/schedule/2004_6/index.html#2004_6_18 map http://www.bul-lets.com/map.html ProgressiveForm http://www.dropcontrol.com/%7Ep_form/ and, if you go to ICC, you should go on the 19th. 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Thu Jun 10 19:07:46 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30603-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.75]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 10 Jun 2004 15:07:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 10 Jun 2004 15:07:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 35487 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 10 Jun 2004 19:07:43 +0000 Received: (qmail 35477 invoked from network); Thu, 10 Jun 2004 19:07:43 +0000 Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2004 19:07:39 +0000 (GMT) From: artificial eye <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx.xx> Subject: [microsound] microsound in riga, latvia and tallinn, estonia X-Originating-IP: [81.154.69.99] To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx-xxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: LycosMail Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Boundary_(ID_JhCcHdEtAbzkRsEouIHw7w)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at spray.net X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_JhCcHdEtAbzkRsEouIHw7w) Content-Type: text/plain; Charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit hi all, i'm planning a trip to riga in latvia and tallinn in estonia august / september time this year. does anyone know of any clubs, bars galleries museums that be of worth visiting by someone with a wide interest in the art / sound world of microsound? thanks, m Capital One Classic Mastercard 60 second response online. http://mocda.com/1/c/681064/117934/307081/307081 AOL users go here http://mocda.com/1/c/681064/117934/307081/307081 --Boundary_(ID_JhCcHdEtAbzkRsEouIHw7w) Content-Type: text/plain; Charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org --Boundary_(ID_JhCcHdEtAbzkRsEouIHw7w)-- From ???@??? Thu Jun 10 18:48:29 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30602-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.42]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 10 Jun 2004 14:48:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 10 Jun 2004 14:48:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 25096 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 10 Jun 2004 18:48:24 +0000 Received: (qmail 25085 invoked from network); Thu, 10 Jun 2004 18:48:24 +0000 Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2004 13:49:35 -0500 From: Christopher Sorg <xxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: RE: [microsound] data -> sound examples In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: 'microsound' <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <000901c44f1b$ad337b00$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.3416 Content-type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx > On 10/06/2004, at 9:22 AM, Scott Carver wrote: > > In a loose sense, weren't serialists doing this? > > In that case though the 'data' was always musical (chromatic note > numbers, or other parameters for integral serialism). Right. And, technically, at least with Western music, the result comes from the manipulation of some kind of numerical system. In the case of the serialists, the division of the scale and the circle of fifths explored, earlier chord combinations based on "imperfect" intervals and there perfect resolution, and the scale itself divided and subdivided until tonal differences were no longer deemed perceptable. I agree, however, that there is a less direct correlation between chromatic note numbers (or names--labels) and the bits that represent a voltage level which, over time, creates a note. I can name a chromatic scale starting with 27 instead of 1, or Q instead of C, and wouldn't change the sound itself, just the nomenclature surrounding it. Of course, nomenclatures/symbols/languages surrounding musical discourse likely affect our conceptualizing sound in profound ways... > > The shift thats happening isn't as direct as, for example, > playing a > > bitmap as a raw sound file (and I think there are a few different > > problems with this kind of format shifting, too). > > I agree... you're mainly hearing 'format', not data I disagree. Yes, a bitmap (BMP format) is a specifically-formatted image, with a header, pixel data, and a bottom-to-top approach to it's pixel list. JPEGs are compressed, so the data is not raw, so you are also hearing "format". However, if you took a digital camera that produced raw data files (which many do), it does not have any particular formating per se; merely the output from the CCDs listed in a linear fashion, typically from left to right, top to bottom. Of course, this is a convention/format, to read the pixel values in this way, but so is reading music from left to right, and notating the lengths of sounds with solid or open circles. > > Nonetheless, it seems to be about converting the output of an > > interesting process, interesting sets of numbers, into > sound. Anyone > > else see this connection, or am I way off? > > I think (in many cases) it's got more to do with data per se - or at least, a cultural > idea about data as a stuff or substance, or as a sphere of activity. This is especially > clear in the case of network sonifications. Re serialism, there is both a quantitative > and qualitative shift: a dataset several Mb in size is a different beast to a 12-tone row > and its permutations. The qualitative shift is partly to do with the challenge of > rendering that much data into some perceptually meaningful form. Manovich (in the paper I > mentioned in my last post) raises the idea of the sublime - getting a (limited) sense of > something unimaginably large. I disagree with his conclusions but I think there's > something to that point... cheers, > > Mitchell > http://www.ce.canberra.edu.au/staff/mitchellwhitelaw We are (typically, consistently, traditionally) dealing with streams of data in a linear, time-based sense. File systems, while stored non-sequentially, contain links in their headers that lead us, sequentially from one data packet to another. Bitmaps and audio files, at their core, are even simpler. If one has the data stream, "01010100100101000101", and you place that data in a computer's display memory, it because visible. If we output it to the computer's DAC, then it becomes audible. But the data is the same, regardless. Manovich discusses this process (transcoding) as well, albeit briefly, in his book "The Language of New Media". Manovich seems to suggest that transcoding "preempts" format. Format is something that we (humans) apply, in software, to the raw data in order to perceive it in a certain way. So bitmap, JPEG, WAV and AIFF headers, all describe the data in order to achieve a specific interpretation. Strip out that layer, the human layer, and listen to the machine data itself, as raw as possible. Attempting to do as you suggested, "rendering that much data into some perceptually meaningful form" offers some interesting possibilities. Layering meaning to form meaning, such as data formats or interpretive software like Coagula, is an arbitrary process placed on top of a mathematical concept, the Goedelization of numbers. Christopher ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Christopher Sorg Multimedia Artist/Instructor The School of the Art Institute of Chicago Columbia College Chicago http://www.csorg.org xxxxx@xxxxx.xxx ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.693 / Virus Database: 454 - Release Date: 5/31/2004 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Jun 10 18:38:38 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30601-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.67]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 10 Jun 2004 14:38:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 10 Jun 2004 14:38:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 20963 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 10 Jun 2004 18:38:34 +0000 Received: (qmail 20947 invoked from network); Thu, 10 Jun 2004 18:38:33 +0000 Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2004 14:38:30 -0400 (EDT) From: Patrick Valiquet <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] data -> sound examples (spectralism) To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx >>On 10/06/2004, at 9:22 AM, Scott Carver wrote: >> In a loose sense, weren't serialists doing this? >In that case though the 'data' was always musical(chromatic note >numbers, or other parameters for integral serialism). not the serialists, but perhaps the spectralists... the whole m/o of tristan murail et al involves a kind of sonification of data (and a general romanticism about an idealized 'purity' of sound -- a trait that is often shared by composers who work mainly with math like the serialists). on a tangent, i wonder if anybody here works with using something like soundhack to gather data for instrumental composition... spectralist or otherwise... i've been experimenting myself with composing for instruments in lisp using miscellaneous data-sources gathered using pure-data or soundhack... just wondering how much the microsound and other academic new-music communities cross... my two cents, patrick ===== Øä PnîáÃ`Ìgx9KlóS•Ìh´9»=œ®_®½ö±ql°<|Pô“ )”ì¹xS@‹ñìðeúë© Çñ=Ž>²åûMsØ›h#Õ×k·#Í6žü:´kB*÷Ú©¶½ö“™Gγü>u4ÖÿžŽ¾Ú÷ç5 À8¡ http://www3.telus.net/pinothefrog/ @ ½ø’ÈWϱïÚU¤IéѼž¹ÑmàÝs è+ý5E“)IÐ ÃBâÅ/²@A€gºžët(‹qÙÄ ¯–mè0%—íDcWïýŸ_Ÿ‰— þ[>¿B±¸ Ÿ_i}¾Ëï³5ý_/çËÿ,¿k—믾C`©rÉ?Ÿ Ä×îõ$2,‚µðÈd7’ ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Jun 10 17:57:04 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30600-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.42]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 10 Jun 2004 13:57:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 10 Jun 2004 13:56:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 95991 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 10 Jun 2004 17:57:00 +0000 Received: (qmail 95980 invoked from network); Thu, 10 Jun 2004 17:57:00 +0000 Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2004 10:56:57 -0700 (PDT) From: vadim sprikut <xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] AC.16 - Chicago 6/13/04 To: xxx-xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx, xxxxxxxxx-xxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx, xxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx, xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx crossposted... AC.16 Please join us for the last installment of AC for the spring. These performances feature improvised electroacoustic music (mostly on the minimal end of things) in a comfortable, intimate setting, designed to encourage active listening. We are relocating at the end of the month. Once that is taken care of, we will resume for a second series of fall shows, with details to be announced this summer. Thanks for your patronage. 6/13/04, Sunday, 7pm: _Rotten Milk _Neil Jendon Since this is a private residence, you *must* RSVP to attend. Show starts at 7pm. Free, donations welcome. Refreshments provided. 2227 N. Kimball Ave #1E Chicago, IL 60647 (ring bottom buzzer) Please e-mail xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx or call 773.394.2906 for an RSVP or for more information. also check www.oblast.net for performance info. v' __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Yahoo! 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Thu Jun 10 17:19:36 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30599-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.75]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 10 Jun 2004 13:19:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 10 Jun 2004 13:19:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 73177 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 10 Jun 2004 17:19:32 +0000 Received: (qmail 73163 invoked from network); Thu, 10 Jun 2004 17:19:31 +0000 Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2004 10:19:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Praemedia <xxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] tokyo In-reply-to: <BCEDE5EF.3BFF%xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx Coorect me if I'm wrong, but I believe Offsite is no longer. though fader sometimes puts on some interesting events - see www.faderbyheadz.com and there is also an excellent show being put on by cubicmusic sometime in June - see www.cubicmusic.com (and also www.christopherwillits.com for the rest of his Japanese tour, which might point you to some interesting venues). cheers. lance grabmiller www.praemedia.com --- Kendra Juul <xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote: > There is a venue called "Offsite" that is fantastic! > Check it out! __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 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Thu Jun 10 17:15:18 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30598-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.72]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 10 Jun 2004 13:15:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 10 Jun 2004 13:15:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 70231 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 10 Jun 2004 17:15:14 +0000 Received: (qmail 70221 invoked from network); Thu, 10 Jun 2004 17:15:14 +0000 Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2004 10:18:23 -0700 From: Kendra Juul <xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] tokyo In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BCEDE5EF.3BFF%xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.4.030702.0 X-imss-version: 2.0 X-imss-result: Passed X-imss-scores: Clean:44.52296 C:20 M:1 S:5 R:5 X-imss-settings: Baseline:1 C:1 M:1 S:1 R:1 (0.0000 0.0000) X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Jun 2004 17:15:09.0029 (UTC) FILETIME=[7B517950:01 C44F0E] There is a venue called "Offsite" that is fantastic! Check it out! > From: Roland Hausheer <xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xx> > Reply-To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> > Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2004 09:24:20 +0200 > To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> > Subject: [microsound] tokyo > > hi everybody > > i go to tokyo next week and i'm just courios if some of you > have a recommendation for a club or art gallery (ICC i know...) to > check. > hints for other places in japan are also welcome... > > thanks! > roland > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Jun 10 15:59:23 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30597-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.42]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 10 Jun 2004 11:59:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 10 Jun 2004 11:59:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 40824 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 10 Jun 2004 15:59:20 +0000 Received: (qmail 40814 invoked from network); Thu, 10 Jun 2004 15:59:20 +0000 Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2004 15:59:19 +0000 From: Paul Pavlovich <xxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: RE: [microsound] Mathematician Claims Proof For Riemann Hypothesis X-Originating-IP: [24.227.103.156] X-Sender: xxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Bcc: Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Originating-Email: [xxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Jun 2004 15:59:20.0131 (UTC) FILETIME=[E3F6B930:01C44F03] >From: Kim Cascone <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> >Reply-To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> >To: microsound_list <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> >Subject: [microsound] Mathematician Claims Proof For Riemann Hypothesis >Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2004 08:30:36 -0700 > >http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2004/06/040609070717.htm > >this is very interesting as I just finished a book while in Greece titled: >'The Music of the Primes : Searching to Solve the Greatest Mystery in >Mathematics' by Marcus du Sautoy...highly recommended BTW! >in the book the author makes mention of how a scientist sonified the zeros >along the critical line at 0.5 in the zeta function...does anyone know if >there is an mp3 of this online somewhere? > Kim, Check this MP3 http://www.math.ucsb.edu/~stopple/explicit.html The Music of the Primes... Pavlovich > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >website: http://www.microsound.org > _________________________________________________________________ Stop worrying about overloading your inbox - get MSN Hotmail Extra Storage! http://join.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200362ave/direct/01/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Jun 10 15:38:42 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30596-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.69]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 10 Jun 2004 11:38:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 10 Jun 2004 11:38:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 35069 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 10 Jun 2004 15:38:32 +0000 Received: (qmail 35059 invoked from network); Thu, 10 Jun 2004 15:38:32 +0000 Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2004 08:30:36 -0700 From: Kim Cascone <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Mathematician Claims Proof For Riemann Hypothesis To: microsound_list <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BCEDCCAB.1FD27%xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.0.6 X-Loop-Detect: 1 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2004/06/040609070717.htm this is very interesting as I just finished a book while in Greece titled: 'The Music of the Primes : Searching to Solve the Greatest Mystery in Mathematics' by Marcus du Sautoy...highly recommended BTW! in the book the author makes mention of how a scientist sonified the zeros along the critical line at 0.5 in the zeta function...does anyone know if there is an mp3 of this online somewhere? --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Jun 10 15:26:32 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30595-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.75]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 10 Jun 2004 11:26:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 10 Jun 2004 11:26:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 28634 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 10 Jun 2004 15:26:27 +0000 Received: (qmail 28619 invoked from network); Thu, 10 Jun 2004 15:26:27 +0000 Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2004 15:26:26 +0000 From: scott allison <xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] [OT] - USA voter registration form X-Originating-IP: [68.165.209.33] X-Sender: xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Bcc: Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Originating-Email: [xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Jun 2004 15:26:26.0179 (UTC) FILETIME=[4B658D30:01C44EFF] Hello list, Just wanted to post this link to a PDF of the voter registration form for the up-coming United States presidential election. http://www.fec.gov/votregis/pdf/nvra.pdf The form specifies requirements for each state, most vary, but generally you will need to return the form 30 days before the election. Thanks, Scott Allison _________________________________________________________________ Watch the online reality show Mixed Messages with a friend and enter to win a trip to NY http://www.msnmessenger-download.click-url.com/go/onm00200497ave/direct/01/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Jun 10 10:53:15 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30594-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.70]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 10 Jun 2004 06:53:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 10 Jun 2004 06:53:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 57530 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 10 Jun 2004 10:53:02 +0000 Received: (qmail 57520 invoked from network); Thu, 10 Jun 2004 10:53:02 +0000 Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2004 20:36:42 +1000 From: Mitchell Whitelaw <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] data -> sound examples In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@x.xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.618) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@x.xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx On 10/06/2004, at 9:22 AM, Scott Carver wrote: > In a loose sense, weren't serialists doing this? In that case though the 'data' was always musical (chromatic note numbers, or other parameters for integral serialism). > The shift thats happening isn't as direct as, for example, playing a > bitmap as a raw sound file (and I think there are a few different > problems with this kind of format shifting, too). I agree... you're mainly hearing 'format', not data > Nonetheless, it seems to be about converting the output of an > interesting process, interesting sets of numbers, into sound. Anyone > else see this connection, or am I way off? I think (in many cases) it's got more to do with data per se - or at least, a cultural idea about data as a stuff or substance, or as a sphere of activity. This is especially clear in the case of network sonifications. Re serialism, there is both a quantitative and qualitative shift: a dataset several Mb in size is a different beast to a 12-tone row and its permutations. The qualitative shift is partly to do with the challenge of rendering that much data into some perceptually meaningful form. Manovich (in the paper I mentioned in my last post) raises the idea of the sublime - getting a (limited) sense of something unimaginably large. I disagree with his conclusions but I think there's something to that point... cheers, Mitchell http://www.ce.canberra.edu.au/staff/mitchellwhitelaw Mitchell Whitelaw Visiting Advanced Audio Interfaces, CSIRO ICT Centre http://www.ce.canberra.edu.au/staff/mitchellwhitelaw --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Jun 10 10:35:46 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30593-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.68]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 10 Jun 2004 06:35:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 10 Jun 2004 06:35:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 52844 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 10 Jun 2004 10:35:40 +0000 Received: (qmail 52834 invoked from network); Thu, 10 Jun 2004 10:35:39 +0000 Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2004 19:32:16 +0900 From: shinjiro yamaguchi <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] Re:[microsound] tokyo To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx@xxxx.xxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Webmail-inter7 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx hello >hi everybody > >i go to tokyo next week and i'm just courios if some of you >have a recommendation for a club or art gallery (ICC i know...) to >check. >hints for other places in japan are also welcome... > >thanks! >roland +art Hara Museum, http://www.haramuseum.or.jp/ Mori Art Museum in roppongi hills, http://www.mori.art.museum/ Tokyo Metropolitan Museum of Photography, http://www.syabi.com/english/index_eng.html and National Museum of Emerging Science and Innovation (science meets art) http://www.miraikan.jst.go.jp/ and you may meet good small galleries at Harajuku, NakaMeguro and so on. (if you are lucky) +club ebisu milk, aoyama cay, sangenjaya grape fruits moon and so on. all the best from japan shinjiro --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Jun 10 07:22:36 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30592-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.69]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 10 Jun 2004 03:22:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 10 Jun 2004 03:22:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 13800 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 10 Jun 2004 07:22:34 +0000 Received: (qmail 13790 invoked from network); Thu, 10 Jun 2004 07:22:34 +0000 Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2004 09:24:20 +0200 From: Roland Hausheer <xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] tokyo In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx@xxxx.xxxxxx.xx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.606) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx@xxxx.xxxxxx.xx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx hi everybody i go to tokyo next week and i'm just courios if some of you have a recommendation for a club or art gallery (ICC i know...) to check. hints for other places in japan are also welcome... thanks! roland --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? 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Wed Jun 9 23:20:37 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30589-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.70]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 09 Jun 2004 19:20:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 09 Jun 2004 19:22:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 71265 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 09 Jun 2004 23:22:31 +0000 Received: (qmail 71249 invoked from network); Wed, 09 Jun 2004 23:22:30 +0000 Date: Wed, 09 Jun 2004 16:22:26 -0700 From: Scott Carver <xxxxxxx@x.xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] data -> sound examples In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@x.xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.618) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx In a loose sense, weren't serialists doing this? The shift thats happening isn't as direct as, for example, playing a bitmap as a raw sound file (and I think there are a few different problems with this kind of format shifting, too). Nonetheless, it seems to be about converting the output of an interesting process, interesting sets of numbers, into sound. Anyone else see this connection, or am I way off? - Scott Carver --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Jun 9 22:23:33 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30588-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.72]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 09 Jun 2004 18:23:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 09 Jun 2004 18:25:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 39777 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 09 Jun 2004 22:25:27 +0000 Received: (qmail 39761 invoked from network); Wed, 09 Jun 2004 22:25:26 +0000 Date: Wed, 09 Jun 2004 18:28:30 -0400 (EDT) From: Neil Wiernik <xxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] om festival 2004 To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> Organization: The Dreaming Electronic Community Network Inc. 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Wed Jun 9 19:03:05 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30587-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.72]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 09 Jun 2004 15:03:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 09 Jun 2004 15:05:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 42428 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 09 Jun 2004 19:04:58 +0000 Received: (qmail 42418 invoked from network); Wed, 09 Jun 2004 19:04:58 +0000 Date: Wed, 09 Jun 2004 15:05:28 -0400 From: "tobias c. van Veen" <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] [from Randall Packer] In Defense of Steve Kurtz and the Role of the Artist In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: Microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BCECD7B8.13122%xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.4.030702.0 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx FYI. tV tobias c. van Veen ----------- http://www.quadrantcrossing.org http://www.thisistheonlyart.com ---McGill Communications------ ICQ: 18766209 | AIM: thesaibot ------ Forwarded Message From: Randall Packer <xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> Reply-To: Randall Packer <xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2004 10:04:27 -0400 To: Nettime <xxxxxxx-x@xxx.xxxxx.xxx> Subject: <nettime> In Defense of Steve Kurtz and the Role of the Artist A Letter in Defense of Steve Kurtz and the Role of the Artist in Society: As with many in the arts community, particularly those engaged in acts of artistic mediation, I am shocked and outraged that one of our own has become a recent victim of oppressive policies coming down from the Bush administration. I met Steve and Critical Art Ensemble partner Claire Pentecost a few years ago here in Washington, DC, during their residency at the Corcoran College of Art. Steve's commitment to social inquiry, particularly in the area of bio-technologies, is internationally renowned. Steve is an artist and scholar of extraordinary depth of knowledge and perspective. Behind the actions and projects of CAE is a profound understanding of 20th century avant-garde practice and its impact on contemporary thought. If in fact it is the role of the artist to shed new light and vision on the issues that confront us today, Steve is the classic model, the real deal. For Steve Kurtz to now be facing criminal charges, shows the deep chasm that exists in our society between the artist's role as a social and political critic, and the society at large. Steve has shown how the artist-as-citizen might stand up for justice in the most thoughtful and imaginative way possible. It is my hope that the case of Steve Kurtz and other CAE collaborators now under investigation can inspire other artists to better articulate their vital role in society. Without artistic freedom, there is no freedom in the world. The artist is constantly examining, redefining and expanding our notions of freedom. How hypocritical for the US Government to claim it is bringing freedom and democracy to oppressive regions of the world, when here at home, it is condemning one of the great artists of our generation who speaks out for truth and justice. In George Orwell's 1984, the motto of Big Brother is: WAR IS PEACE FREEDOM IS SLAVERY IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH The words resonate all too well in the current social and political climate. The crisis facing us is much larger than the charges that may face Steve Kurtz and Critical Art Ensemble. The crisis is that this madness may soon be staring us all in the face, particularly those of us fighting for the ideals we thought our nation was all about. Steve is being victimized by the Patriot Act and the extremist ideologies behind it. We must not allow this to occur. We must defend the principles we believe in, and we must defend the role of the artist as a critical voice to help counter the rising tide of injustice that has spread since 9-11. The defense of Steve Kurtz is vital to the defense of the artist, whose role is to function as a mediator between our strange hostile world and the human spirit. Randall Packer June 8, 2004 Washington, DC --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Jun 9 18:45:02 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30586-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.68]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 09 Jun 2004 14:45:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 09 Jun 2004 14:46:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 33324 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 09 Jun 2004 18:46:55 +0000 Received: (qmail 33311 invoked from network); Wed, 09 Jun 2004 18:46:55 +0000 Date: Wed, 09 Jun 2004 20:44:22 +0200 From: "Glenn Folkvord (Hyperion Media)" <xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] about copying cd To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>, Theophraste Peeble <xxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <11b301c44e52$26449490$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx@xxxx.xxxxxx.xx> <000c01c44e47$ef6d9fc0$xxxxxxxx@xxxx.xx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx ----- Original Message ----- From: "Theophraste Peeble" xxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xx > I think there are 3 important points about this : > > 1)Records are generally speaking very expensive, and if you don't have > enough money to buy the records you want, you won't be able to listen to > them when you want if you don't copy them. Records cost more relatively speaking 20 years ago than now. Beside that, is poverty a good reason to steal something? Cars are generally speaking very expensive, and if I cant afford one, should I go out and steal one? When exactly are you poor enough to justify music stealing? It's tough luck if you are so poor you cant buy music, but it doesnt justify stealing. > 2)Labels which release artists generally (I say GENERALLY) earn more money > than their artists on a record sold. Is this normal ? Do you prefer giving > more money to a label than to the musicians you love ? As long as the artist himself is not willing to take the risk of investing in a CD, the record company should be rewarded with profit. The bigger the risk the bigger the reward should be. "Earning more money" (in terms of "getting the income from a release") doesnt necessarily mean they make a huge profit. Most CD releases in the world, if you look at all music that is released, either looses money or breaks even. Some artists are not even aware of how expensive it is to properly release a CD, let alone market it, so they think record companies and lables screw them over when keeping a portion of the income. > 3) About downloading tracks : it help to dicover less known artists, and > people who dicover them in this way often buy their records later. There is no evidence out there that says than one download more often than not results in one purchase of the same music. In some cases it happens, yes, and with some types of music it happens more often than with others, but people who sample music through MP3s are more inclined to be happy with more or less legal MP3s if they can save money buy getting things from Kazaa or other services. Regards from Glenn Folkvord Hyperion Media - arts and media development xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Jun 9 17:30:12 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30585-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.69]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 09 Jun 2004 13:30:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 09 Jun 2004 13:32:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 98575 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 09 Jun 2004 17:32:04 +0000 Received: (qmail 98564 invoked from network); Wed, 09 Jun 2004 17:32:04 +0000 Date: Wed, 09 Jun 2004 19:33:53 +0200 From: Theophraste Peeble <xxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] about copying cd To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: Theophraste Peeble <xxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xx> Message-id: <000c01c44e47$ef6d9fc0$xxxxxxxx@xxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Mailbox-Line: From xxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xx Wed Jun 09 19:32:01 2004 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx@xxxx.xxxxxx.xx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx I think there are 3 important points about this : 1)Records are generally speaking very expensive, and if you don't have enough money to buy the records you want, you won't be able to listen to them when you want if you don't copy them. 2)Labels which release artists generally (I say GENERALLY) earn more money than their artists on a record sold. Is this normal ? Do you prefer giving more money to a label than to the musicians you love ? 3) About downloading tracks : it help to dicover less known artists, and people who dicover them in this way often buy their records later. sorry for my bad english too Theophraste Peeble http://mapage.noos.fr/verchonfourgu ----- Original Message ----- From: "shinjiro yamaguchi" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> To: <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>; <xxxxxxxxxx_xxxx_xxxxx_xxxxxxx@.xxxxxx-xxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2004 6:43 PM Subject: [microsound] about copying cd > hello list, > this might have been discussed about :) > > > do you copy cd ? > i do. > it is useful, i think. > actually, i have bought many cds thanks to the cd-r given from friends. > but it may not be comfortable of artists. > a japanese artist mentioned it. > http://www.dropcontrol.com/~s_i_l_i_c_o_m/blog/archives/003414.html > how are you thinking about it ? > i'm glad if anyone tell opinion. > > if you like... > > sorry for my bad english > thanks > shinjiro yamaguchi > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Jun 9 16:41:53 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30584-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.69]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 09 Jun 2004 12:41:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 09 Jun 2004 12:43:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 65094 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 09 Jun 2004 16:43:45 +0000 Received: (qmail 65084 invoked from network); Wed, 09 Jun 2004 16:43:45 +0000 Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2004 01:43:42 +0900 From: shinjiro yamaguchi <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] about copying cd To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx@xxxx.xxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Webmail-inter7 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx hello list, this might have been discussed about :) do you copy cd ? i do. it is useful, i think. actually, i have bought many cds thanks to the cd-r given from friends. but it may not be comfortable of artists. a japanese artist mentioned it. http://www.dropcontrol.com/~s_i_l_i_c_o_m/blog/archives/003414.html how are you thinking about it ? i'm glad if anyone tell opinion. if you like... sorry for my bad english thanks shinjiro yamaguchi --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Jun 9 16:29:23 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30583-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.69]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 09 Jun 2004 12:29:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 09 Jun 2004 12:31:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 56440 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 09 Jun 2004 16:31:16 +0000 Received: (qmail 56430 invoked from network); Wed, 09 Jun 2004 16:31:15 +0000 Date: Wed, 09 Jun 2004 12:33:44 -0400 From: Mike Hansen <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] CKLN FM's Whynot Jazz playlist for June 2, 2004 To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.553) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > Dear Artist and Label > > Welcome to the radio program Whynot Jazz on Toronto's CKLN FM 88.1. > Heard Every Wednesday Morning from 7am-11am est, 1pm thru most of > Europe and noon in the UK. Available around the world at: > > www.ckln.fm > > Here is the playlist from the last Whynot Jazz Program. Please note > that radio program, hosted by Mike Hansen, takes an outside > examination of new improvised and jazz musics. Whynotjazz is one of > the very few voices for progessive new music heard in Toronto or > around the world. > > DUE TO COMPUTER PROBLEMS i AM UNABLE TO FORWARD YOU A PLAYLIST FOR > jUNE 2 2004.SORRY FOR ANY IN CONVIENCE, PLAYLIST WILL RESUME NEXT > WEEK. PLEASE KEEP LISTENING AND SUPPORTING THE "WHYNOT JAZZ PROGRAM" > > > > Your support is necessary in keeping this voice for the music current. > Please feel free to forward music to the address below. Thanks again > for your support. Keep Listening > > Thanks > Mike > > > Mike Hansen > CKLN FM 88.1 > Whynot Jazz Program > 79 Benson Ave. > Toronto,On > Canada > M6G 2H7 > xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Jun 9 16:09:27 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30582-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.78]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 09 Jun 2004 12:09:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 09 Jun 2004 12:11:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 45943 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 09 Jun 2004 16:11:18 +0000 Received: (qmail 45924 invoked from network); Wed, 09 Jun 2004 16:11:17 +0000 Date: Wed, 09 Jun 2004 18:11:17 +0200 From: uzekt <xxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] SUNDAY, 4th JULY 2004 To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <006701c44e3c$6595b1d0$xxxxxxxx@xxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_cOe+cTMbzC2+TLjbtp4DBQ)" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_cOe+cTMbzC2+TLjbtp4DBQ) Content-Type: text/plain; Charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit RENDEZ VOUS RENDEZ VOUS SUNDAY, 4th JULY 2004 POUR LES OISEAUX PALAIS DES BEAUX ARTS - TERRASSE (OPEN AIR) LILLE - FRANCE from 3PM to 10PM FREE ENTRANCE LIVE : POLE [SCAPE (All.) - BERLIN] SI-CUT.DB [BIP-HOP (F.) - LONDRES] PHILIPPE CAM [TRAUM (All.) - LE HAVRE] JONAS BERING [KOMPAKT (All.) - LILLE] BERN [TRAUM (All.) - LILLE] TEZ [POSTAIR (F.) - LILLE] POSTAIR invites you to la terrasse du Palais des Beaux-Arts in Lille for a sensitive summer afternoon with 6 electronic ambient gigs and a special architectural structure concepted by STEL. Very high quality of sound is guaranted by an advanced modular acoustic system. Subway : ligne 1 - station République/Beaux-Arts. By car : follow « Lille centre ». Underground parking : Place de la République. Handicapped people : accessibility at Boulevard de la Liberté entrance In case of bad weather, gigs will happen inside the museum at the auditorium. Access to the venue is through the main entrance of the museum. This day, entrance is free also for visiting the museum. more infos : www.postair.net Thanks to our partners : LE PALAIS DES BEAUX ARTS DE LILLE, LA VILLE DE LILLE, http://www.mairie-lille.fr/ DOMAINE MUSIQUES, http://www.domaine-musiques.com LA SACEM, http://www.sacem.fr/ NULOOP, http://www.nuloop.com/ BIG BAND PROJEKT, Sélection Coup de coeur du Festival Dix Vagues de Lille http://www.mairie- lille.fr/ --Boundary_(ID_cOe+cTMbzC2+TLjbtp4DBQ)-- From ???@??? Wed Jun 9 13:18:49 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30581-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.74]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 09 Jun 2004 09:18:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 09 Jun 2004 09:20:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 70706 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 09 Jun 2004 13:20:40 +0000 Received: (qmail 70696 invoked from network); Wed, 09 Jun 2004 13:20:40 +0000 Date: Wed, 09 Jun 2004 14:20:36 +0100 From: Steve Goodman <x.xxxxxxx@xxx.xx.xx> Subject: [microsound] MA Cybernetic Culture / MA Sonic Culture: New MA programmes at the University of East London To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xx-xxxxx.xxx.xx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.6944.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_zniWzbzYJy5fmoxSUW9iqw)" Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Importance: high Priority: Urgent X-Priority: 1 Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Thread-topic: MA Cybernetic Culture / MA Sonic Culture: New MA programmes at the University of East London Thread-index: AcROJI1EsXMmk6JLQKSE/0RpoRzr/g== Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_zniWzbzYJy5fmoxSUW9iqw) Content-Type: text/plain; Charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Apologies for repeat posting. . . New MA programmes in the School of Cultural & Innovation Studies University of East London MA Sonic Culture: Sound, Arts and Media in the Digital Age MA Cybernetic Culture: Media, Digital Arts, and the Body-machine MA Sonic Culture: Sound, Arts and Media in the Digital Age Dr. Steve Goodman - x.xxxxxxx@xxx.xx.xx This new and unique theory/practice MA programme attempts to compensate for the deep rooted visual bias of Western culture, and by implication, the lack of rigorous theoretical analysis of the field of Sonic Culture, the intersection between the soundscape and cybernetic society. With increasing online bandwidth, sound is attaining a more central role in the multimedia environment of contemporary culture. This MA deliberately focuses on the broad theme of Sonic Culture and away from the more limited concerns of the cultural study of music, in order to more insightfully delineate, and provide context to, the profound and unpredictable technological transformations which global music culture is currently undergoing. Digital media have generated an acoustic cyberspace and opened up previously unexplored microsonic dimensions of the audiosphere. A specific range of conceptual tools are required to critically engage and produce in this context. The core courses of the MA programme, are the theoretically oriented Sonic Culture(Semester A), and Audio-Vision which has a theory/practice option (Semester B). The MA Sonic Culture takes an interdisciplinary approach, and aims to develop a critical understanding of the role of sound in digital culture providing a framework and production skills for digital sound design and analysis across a range of traditional and emergent media. Theoretically, the MA explores the emergent space and time of this acoustic cyberspace, and the relevance of concepts such as microsound, sonic affect, the audio-visual contract, the virtual, simulation, synesthesia, afrofuturism, remixology and digital accidents in relation to Sonic Culture in digital capitalism. To do this, we draw material from the histories of recorded sound in 20th century electronic music, theories of film sound, and frameworks from fiction, cultural theory, critical musicology, philosophy, digital aesthetics, cybernetics, acoustics, physiology, psychoacoustics, sciences of complexity and theories of power, gender and diaspora, in order to provide students with a conceptual basis for critical and creative sound analysis and production. Students following a theory/practice route through the MA in Sonic Culture attain a grounding in recording, sampling, editing, manipulating, sequencing and synthesising sound using various digital audio software packages, encouraging specialisation in any of the following fields of sonic culture, including Electronic Music Production, Film & Video, Radio, the Internet, CD-ROMs, Computer Games and Sound Installations. Such students will get the opportunity to develop sound projects and media content in relation to any the key concepts explored in the course. More Details <http://www.uel.ac.uk/cultural-innovation/teaching/postgrad/sonic_cult.htm> MA Cybernetic Culture: Media, Digital Arts, and the Body-machine Dr. Luciana Parisi - x.xxxxxx@xxx.xx.xx This MA critically embraces debates about the relationship between culture and science, the body and the machine, the virtual and real, the natural and the artificial, control and power in the cybernetic era. The relevance of these relationships has become crucial to debates in both human and social sciences, in physics and philosophy, in biology and critical theory. It has had enormous resonance in the critical analysis of contemporary culture (Donna Haraway's Cyborg) by providing new conceptual tools to study the cybernetic reconfiguration of the body in information science, digital arts and media. This MA draws on these debates to map the socio-cultural, desiring, economic and political changes that define the historical emergence and diffusion of cybernetics across disciplines - philosophy and physics, sociology and biology, economics and science, the arts and technologies of communication (from analogue to digital media) and reproduction (from prosthetics to cloning and artificial life). The MA applies an interdisciplinary method to engage with the themes of non linear time and space, simulation, affect and virtuality, viral culture and politics, the kinaesthetic body and digital perception, digital capitalism, artificial nature, collective intelligence, cybersex and prosthetic skin. The MA brings together critical insights from Critical Theory, Cybernetic Theory, Cultural and Media Studies, Philosophy, Theory of Complexity, Human Computer Interaction, Feminist Theory, Film Theory, Theories of Evolution, Theories of Diaspora, Aesthetics, Theories of perception and memory. The MA also provides an option for students to combine this material with the development of critical skills for the production of digital video and sound, digital photography and film, CD-ROMs and Web sites. More Details <http://www.uel.ac.uk/cultural-innovation/teaching/postgrad/cybernetic_cult.h tm> Please circulate --Boundary_(ID_zniWzbzYJy5fmoxSUW9iqw)-- From ???@??? Wed Jun 9 12:02:02 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30580-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.72]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 09 Jun 2004 08:02:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 09 Jun 2004 08:04:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 42611 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 09 Jun 2004 12:03:52 +0000 Received: (qmail 42601 invoked from network); Wed, 09 Jun 2004 12:03:51 +0000 Date: Wed, 09 Jun 2004 08:03:45 -0400 From: xxxxxxx@xxx.xxx Subject: [microsound] Fwd: [h3o-o3h] news. doubleplus good. in fact, rejoicing indicated. 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I have many miles to go; that is, I have to undergo treatment, and I have to deal with the many consequences of that. not to be taken lightly, or with biscuits. but the 'hell', and this is not to use the term lightly, that has been my place of residence for the last 3 years looks as if it may be going to take a running jump. there are many, many people who I would like to thank, and do. effusively. compassionately. inordinately. hopefully not *for ever*. but darn near that. every single person that ever sent even an email, never mind money or stuffed toys or bits of cardboard, I will never forget. I am trying to think of something to repay those people with a bit of my essence that I can chop off and hand to them. no less is required. more on that later. but I have to single out some people. step forward: douglas wolf, julie thielen, ian fenton, wayne carlsen, andrew jacques, andrei bakhmin, brian hundley, jochen schwarz in particular. your chair in the consort of angels has been assured. but they don't give green stamps. sorry. all the record labels that supported me. even if they didn't quite know what they were doing =) all the Icelanders that put up a fight. you may have been small in number, but you *did* something. we'll have you stuffed and mounted =) all the people that came out of the woodwork just to even ask if they could do something. therein lies a particular form of salvation. and basically, everyone. even those that acted maliciously, unconsciously, harmfully, stupidly and disgracefully. hoping this doesn't make me less interesting, or that you think my love for you is diminished. *storm the citadel of enlightenment* ../a reykjavík 7th june 2004 N.B - no decapitations, spiritual or otherwise were involved in the construction of this message. ----------------------- Julie Thielen, Cannibal Rose International: "Apathy is the most insidious monster that exists. It infects with no warning and no outward symptoms. It kills -- and nearly did kill Andrew. Far too often the word 'impossible' is used as a crutch for people simply don't want to try in the first place. Loyalty and consciousness are lost virtues. There is no fulfillment in a self-absorbed life." ------------------------ Andrei Bakhmin: "I've supported you before and during your illness and am now happy to hear this message. Your works have always represented for me a man who is trying to be conscious any given moment whatever hard it could be. It is rare and precious. Just as their feature to help people to be awake which has only strengthened over the last years. I believe that who sees goes on and that whatever else might happen you will not stop your work once you've started it and while you are here. Thank you for it deeply." ------------------------ Ian Fenton, Simply Superior(R): "it's been lovely to witness activists in action, and sickening to hear of back-turning frauds that really should have acted otherwise. i'm glad that they didn't have their way in the end, and don't now have the= death of someone really rather pleasant on their microscopic consciences. champagne! glenmorangie! banana frappucinos! icelandic water!"= ------------------------- Douglas Wolf, iMunnin inc.: "18 months ago I would not have believed that what has come about, could. Then, all that it seemed possible to do was to tread water. Now, looking just at the surface, the reversal of the situation seems incre= dibly accidental. In reality, below the surface there was a mass of efforts and sacrifices by several people, to sustain in the short-term, and to secure for the long-term. These people in turn were supported by others, who are owed a debt of gratitude for patience and understanding. In addition I want to thank anyone who purchased an item from the help h3o auctions, or from the labels, or who helped with any tour, attempted or successful, or sent a concerned email, or provided things for auction." -------------------------- Jochen Schwarz, Die Stadt: "From time to time you look at the world - and often its authorities - and find there's little or no justice, no matter how hard you strive for it. That's pretty much the way I also felt about Andrew's situation all this time. Well I'm not ashamed to say that I was proven wrong in the end and that I'm really grateful for this. I guess the lesson to be learned from this is to Not Give Up. So my deep respect goes to everyone wh= o's helped in any way to make this a victory, and foremost Andrew himself because he's never given up on himself - which means he'll be able to furth= er tickle our minds and hearts with his music for many years to come !" -------------------------- Wayne Carlsen, Phonometrography "those that could, did. those that could not, did not. there were more that could, but did not. from the most unlikely places came more that could, and did. petty small mindedness and lack of social conscience renders thought and feeling numb. Transfiguration of numbness can now occur. It will weigh approximately 10-15 kilos on the phonometer. Top hats off, please." ---------------------------- Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/h3o-o3h/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: xxx-xxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! 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Wed Jun 9 11:03:22 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30579-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.69]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 09 Jun 2004 07:03:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 09 Jun 2004 07:05:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 28349 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 09 Jun 2004 11:05:13 +0000 Received: (qmail 28338 invoked from network); Wed, 09 Jun 2004 11:05:13 +0000 Date: Wed, 09 Jun 2004 14:05:10 +0300 From: Vesa <xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Avanto Festival News In-reply-to: <007901c44df3$101c2c50$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; en-US; rv:1.5.1) Gecko/20031120 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <007901c44df3$101c2c50$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx Hello all, The submission deadline of Avanto Helsinki Media Art Festival (18.-21.11.2004) is approaching! For short film and videos it is July 1 (postmarked). Proposals for live performances are welcome as well. Please see our submission guidelines at http://www.avantofestival.com/submissions.html And don't forget to check the Event Photos With Praise Quotes from last year's festival at www.avantofestival.com! Best wishes Team Avanto -------------------------------------- Seuraavaan Avantoon (18.-21.11.2004) tarkoitettujen ehdotusten deadline lähestyy! Lyhyiden video- ja elokuvatöiden Avantoscope-sarjoihin voi lähettää esikatselunauhoja 1.7. asti, postileima riittää. Ehdotukset live-ohjelmaamme ovat myös tervetulleita. Tarkempia ohjeita osoitteessa http://www.avantofestival.com/submissions.html Samalla voit katsastaa viime vuoden Avannon kuvagallerian, www.avantofestival.com ja siellä "Event photos". Parhain terveisin Team Avanto --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Jun 9 09:51:53 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30578-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.68]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 09 Jun 2004 05:51:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 09 Jun 2004 05:53:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 9580 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 09 Jun 2004 09:53:49 +0000 Received: (qmail 9570 invoked from network); Wed, 09 Jun 2004 09:53:48 +0000 Date: Wed, 09 Jun 2004 09:54:00 +0000 From: Dennis McNulty <x@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] data -> sound examples In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-Originating-IP: 193.1.209.254 To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.2 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx Hi Ian, both of these sound great. Do you have any recordings of them(online)?? d. > From: Ian Andrews <x.xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx.xx> > My own efforts: > Instead I went about pulling EPROMs > out of discarded computers and other equipment that I'd find in skips or by > the side of the road........... From > some I got quite interesting results. From others I'd just get white noise. > A few years ago I did a performance with a SW radio and a Roland EF-303 > effects processor & step sequencer. The radio picked up the raw data from > the unearthed EF-303 and the output of the radio was fed back into the > EF-303. This feedback loop could be "played" like a Theremin by moving the > radio around in the air. ______________________________ http://dennismcnulty.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Jun 9 07:24:33 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30577-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.78]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 09 Jun 2004 03:24:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 09 Jun 2004 03:26:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 77748 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 09 Jun 2004 07:26:28 +0000 Received: (qmail 77736 invoked from network); Wed, 09 Jun 2004 07:26:28 +0000 Date: Wed, 09 Jun 2004 03:26:20 -0400 From: "n.kra" <xxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Hello again from slapart.com (3 new mp3 releases) To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <007901c44df3$101c2c50$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_0x88yyS/AKBNZKEFl/TMuQ)" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-ELNK-Trace: e1b52dea980924414d2b10475b571120327af223dd71838b7921749b30ed977c3954a057d8380015350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_0x88yyS/AKBNZKEFl/TMuQ) Content-Type: text/plain; Charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Welcome to a revitalised Slapart. Data sound - you got it. Other aesthetics as well - all electronic - all experimental. It's almost like a pool. Choose a sound and dip it in your ideology, remove it, step back and let it shine. data sound is one thing you can let drip, tinges of guitar another, field recordings,etc. You'll find at all at slapart.com! As we piece together our website, enjoy these new free downloads from our little corner of this electronic life. ---------------------- slapmp3_o17 ---------------------- v.stevenson "FROMWAYS" ---------------------- Music is a type of travel. And as you travel, the soundscape always exist in constant flux. A bird, a tree, a truck, the changing distance of objects from a car window play their symphony and the driver and passenger(s) slip in and out of awareness of their melody. Objects and buildings and people and views one only peripherally notices for a very short time, never to encounter again. v.stevenson's "fromways" is influenced by this wrenching experience of "passing through," but its as if each perceptible turn of the head is recorded and examined. It's a ten-minute piece separated into five sections each titled after towns the author "passed through" on a summer drive. <a href="http://www.archive.org/audio/audio-details-db.php?collection=slapart&collectionid=slap017">Listen at Internet Archive</a> ------------------------------------------- slapmp3_o18 ------------------------------------------- Guignol Dangereux "Light Sound Distraction" ------------------------------------------- With the references so obvious, I shouldn't have to say more. But don't be scared off, these tracks are two treasures of psychedelic ambient listening from Italian Dj Guignol Dangereux. Beautiful, melodious, reverb-based tracks for late night listening. <a href="http://www.archive.org/audio/audio-details-db.php?collection=slapart&collectionid=slap018">Listen at Internet Archive</a> ------------------------ slapmp3_o19 ------------------------ Jon Vaughn "Anthem Brut" ------------------------ Like a monkey that dances for his master at the fair. The old man perpetually cranks a magical box, which due to the slight variations in force of the master's turning hand always emits rhythmic melodies slightly in and out of phase with one another. A new territory in Vaughn's work based more on samples and drone-like, forever changing rhythms than his prior release [slapmp3_009]. If IDM can be non-idiomatic, this is it. Good ol homegrown funk from the vaste Canadian land of Saskatchewan. <a href="http://www.archive.org/audio/audio-details-db.php?collection=slapart&collectionid=slap019">Listen at Internet Archive</a> Look out for the new Hafler Trio on Slapart, almost available now! Order one from our <a href="http://www.slapart.com/shop/forsale.html">online paypal shop</a> at a reduced pre-order rate of $14 plus shipping now. --Boundary_(ID_0x88yyS/AKBNZKEFl/TMuQ)-- From ???@??? 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Miércoles. 15:00-16:00. 100.4 Fm www.circulobellasartes.com Radio Autònoma. Martes-Jueves-Sabado. 18:00-19:00 www.uam.es/radio Radio Enlace. Martes. 19:00-20:00. 107.5 Fm. Madrid Contenidos Onda Sonora (Radio Sesiones Experimentales) 09-06-04 01. EVAPORI Track: Gestaltung Des Zerfalls Album: Uebergangsfassaden Label: Antiinformation Novedad desde un sello aleman con base en Hamburgo llamado Antiinformation. Se trata de su segunda referencia, un cd-r de edicion limitada a cargo de un proyecto hasta ahora desconocido para nosotros, Evapori, el nombre de este trabajo post-industrial proximo a la musica concreta es fachadas temporales 02. ANDREW LILES Track: Strain Album: All Closed Doors Label: Infraction Nos trasladamos al estado americano de Ohio, donde se encuentra la sede de otro sello experimental llamado Infraction records, que recientemente publicaba este interesante disco del excentrico compositor britanico Andrew Liles, All Closed Doors 03. MOMUS AND ANNE LAPLANTINE Track: First Song Album: summerisle Label: Cherry Red Colaboracion entre el cantante de origen escoces Momus y la guitarrista y artista digital francesa Anne Laplantine, ambos residiendo actualmente en Berlin, este disco, corto pero intenso entre el folk y la electronica ha sido editado por un historico sello britanico con más de 25 años de existencia, Cherry Red, a través de su division Analog Baroque, que dirige el propio Momus 04. THE HAFLER TRIO Track: 1 Album: The Sea Org Label: Korm Plastics Hace ya unos meses te presentabamos la primera de las reediciones del sello Korm plastics sobre material esencial y hasta ahora inaccesebible del Hafler Trio, un trio formado por Andrew Mackenzie, principal responsable de este nuevo impulso al combo, Chris Watson, que actualmente trabaja en solitario, y el fallecido Edward Molenbeek. Las dos primeras reediciones son Kill The King, que ya sonó, y este trabajo que vio la luz en formato vinilo en 1987 a través del excelente sello Touch, The Sea Org 05. PRURIENT Track: Andshinand Album: Shipwrecker's Diary Label: Ground Fault Tres semanas atras te hablabamos de Dominick Fernow y de sus ultimos proyectos bajo el sobrenombre Prurient, esto que va a sonar es probablemente su trabajo más ruidoso y agresivo hasta la fecha 06. LORENZO BRUTTI Track: Why Album: Why Everything Ended Here? Label: Panospria Otra novedad desde el sello Panospria, que desde principios de año lleva trabajando como Net-label, colgando obras durante un tiempo determinado para su descarga gratuita, obras como la que va a sonar, a cargo del compositor italiano Lorenzo Brutti 07. AMUTE Track: From Where Album: A Hundred Dry Trees Label: Intr_version Novedad del sello canadiense Intr_version, inmerso en un proceso de internacionalizacion que lo ha llevado hasta Belgica, país de origen del artista Jérome Deuson, más conocido como Amute, especialmente desde su aparicion en el recopilatorio Saturday Morning Empires, que editaba Intr_version hace unos meses. Esta es una muestra de su debut, A Hundred Dry Trees 08. THE SONIC CATERING BAND Track: Covert Feeding Album: Seven Transdanubian Recipes Label: Peripheral Conserve The Sonic Catering Band es un combo de 9 miembros fijos más un números variable de colaboradores, en este caso 6, provenientes de Hungria y Eslovaquia, coordinados por Colin Potter de Nurse With Wound y Current 93. Su metodo consiste en reunirse para preparar cocinar y consumir una serie de comidas, normalmente vegetarianas, aunque segun especifican no es el caso de este disco, grabando todo el proceso y lo sonidos que se derivan de el. El resultado es denso pero dinamico. Seven Transdanubian Recipes, Siete Recetas Transdanubianas 09. THROBBING GRISTLE Track: Industrial Introduction Album: The Taste of TG: A Beginner's Guide to the Music of Throbbing Gristle Label: Mute El pasado mes de mayo debio ser un mes de celebraciones para una de las bandas fundamentales de la música industrial, Throbbing Gristle, en activo entre 1975 y 1981 aunque actualmente andaban organizando un festival centrado en la musica industrial del siglo 21 previsto para el pasado 14 de mayo en el sur de inglaterra, un festival que no llego a celebrarse y que además ha sido pospuesto un año entero. Esto debería haber coincidido con la publicacion por parte del sello Mute de un recopilatorio de clasicos del grupo titulado The Taste Of Tg, una guia para principiantes de Throbbing Gristle 10. PAN SONIC Track: Diminsher Album: Kesto Label: Mute Duo electronico finlandes afincado en Barcelona y que son uno de los cabezas de cartel del festival organizado por Throbbing Gristle y tambien de la edicion de este año del sonar barcelonés. Este corte forma parte de su nuevo cuadruple cd, un trabajo epico que se desarrolla a lo largo de casi cuatro horas 11. OLOOLO / DEREK HOLZER Track: Self Excitation Album: Kosta Label: Nexsound Fruto de la colaboracion entre el diseñador de sonido holandes Derek Holzer y los computer-kids letones Oloolo. El primero captando sonidos con diversos micrófonos y los segundos manipulando y procesando esas muestras en tiempo real. El disco fue grabado en vivo en Letonia en enero del año pasado. Por fin se puede acceder a esta grabacion y además se puede descargar gratuitamente gracias al sello ucraniano www.nexsound.com 12. LUNT Track: Lydia Album: an half of you Label: Nexsound Otro trabajo que se puede descargar gratuitamente desde www.nexsound.com es este trabajo de Lunt, escultor sonoro que trabaja en el campo de la composicion narrativa pero que principalmente se dedica a la improvisacion como en este An Half Of You 13. AUTISTICI Track: Invisible Switches Placed On a Hidden Wall Album: A Moment Of Incidentals Label: Kikapu Otro interesante sello que se mueve por internet es Kikapu, que además de ofrecer sus mp3 también contiene alguna referencia en cd-r. Lo que va a sonar es unas de las ultimas novedades de este sello, Autistici, perfecto para escuchar con auriculares, una obra masiva que mezcla el glitch con el drone en densos paisajes oscuros 14. NOTO Track: Mm Album: Raster-noton_Archiv 1 Label: Raster-noton Esta semana nos despedimos con Carsten Nicolai, aka Alva Noto, que actua este jueves en la casa encendida junto a Byetone y también este viernes junto a Byetone y Komet como parte de Signal, el proyecto que los une a los tres. Gira, por tanto, publicitaria de Raster-noton, que fue resultado de la fusion en 1999 de la compañía Raster-music fundada por Olaf Bender (Byetone) y Frank Bretschneider (Komet), con el sello Noton de Carsten Nicolai English Version Contents Onda Sonora (Experimental Radio Sessions) 09-06-04 01. EVAPORI Track: Gestaltung Des Zerfalls Album: Uebergangsfassaden Label: Antiinformation Anti-Information is a new German label based in Hamburg. Its second reference is this limited edition CD-R from Evapori, a post-industrial work next to concrete music 02. ANDREW LILES Track: Strain Album: All Closed Doors Label: Infraction Recent release of excentric English composer Andrew Liles from Massilion, in the North American state of Ohio, where a little experimental label called Infraction records has its headquarters 03. MOMUS AND ANNE LAPLANTINE Track: First Song Album: summerisle Label: Cherry Red Collaboration between Scottish singer Momus –known for his works in labels such as Creation and 4AD and for his hits in the japanese pop of the nineties- and French guitarrist and digital artist Anne Laplantine, both residing in Berlin. This record, not too long but an intense effort with a folk touch, has been released by Analog Baroque, division curated by Momus of a historic British label with 25+ years of existence, Cherry Red 04. THE HAFLER TRIO Track: 1 Album: The Sea Org Label: Korm Plastics Some months ago we introduced the first of the re-releases of the Korm Plastics company over essential and until now inaccessible material of the Hafler Trio (Andrew McKenzie, Chris Watson, Edward Molenbeek). The first two issues are “Kill the King” and this work originally published as an only vinyl version in 1987 through the Touch label, “The Sea Org 05. PRURIENT Track: Andshinand Album: Shipwrecker's Diary Label: Ground Fault Three weeks ago we spoke about Dominick Fernow and his latest projects under the moniker Prurient. This is his “Shipwrecker’s Diary” in the US label Ground Fault, possibly his most noisy and aggressive work to date 06. LORENZO BRUTTI Track: Why Album: Why Everything Ended Here? Label: Panospria A recent release from the Panospria label, working also as a net label from early this year. This is their last downloadable work published, by Italian composer Lorenzo Brutti 07. AMUTE Track: From Where Album: A Hundred Dry Trees Label: Intr_version A new record from Canadian label Intr_version, inmerse in an internacionalization process that has taken it to Belgium, country of origin for this artist, Jerome Deuson, known as Amute specially since his appearance in the compilation “Saturday Morning Empires”, another recent Intr_version release. This is at last Amute’s debut album 08. THE SONIC CATERING BAND Track: Covert Feeding Album: Seven Transdanubian Recipes Label: Peripheral Conserve The Sonic Catering Band is a curious ensemble of nine habitual members plus some guest collaborators, coordinated by Colin Potter of Nurse With Wound and Current 93. Their method consists on gathering together to prepare, cook and consume diverse meals recording all the process and understanding it as the main sound source for their works 09. THROBBING GRISTLE Track: Industrial Introduction Album: The Taste of TG: A Beginner's Guide to the Music of Throbbing Gristle Label: Mute Last May should have been a month of celebrations for one of the fundamental bands in industrial music, Throbbing Gristle, originally active between 1975 and 1981, though they were currently curating a festival centered in 21th Century industrial music, foreseen for last May 14th in the Camber Sands center, in southern England, that finally hasn’t been celebrated as it’s been postponed for next year. This should have been coincident with Mute’s release of a compilation of classics from the band called “The Taste of TG: A Beginners Guide to the Music of Throbbng Gristle 10. PAN SONIC Track: Diminsher Album: Kesto Label: Mute The Finnish electronic duo Mika Vainio / Ilpo Vaisanen is currently residing in Barcelona, where they will play this weekend in the Sonar festival. So they would have done in Throbbing Gristle’s festival if it had succeed at last. According with this active life, they are releasing a new 4CD called “Kempo”, an epic work developing thourgh almost four hours 11. OLOOLO / DEREK HOLZER Track: Self Excitation Album: Kosta Label: Nexsound The album “Kosta” is the fruit of a collaboration between Dutch sound designer Derek Holzer and Latvian computer kids Oloolo, Holzer capturing sounds with diverse microphones and Oloolo handling and processing those sounds in real time. The album was recorded live in Latvia on January 2003 and now it is at last available for download at www.nexsound.com 12. LUNT Track: Lydia Album: an half of you Label: Nexsound Another work that can be found on Nexsound’s site, interesting Ukranian label releasing its material for free via internet. Lunt is a sound sculptor working on narrative compositions but mainly centerd on improvised pieces like this one 13. AUTISTICI Track: Invisible Switches Placed On a Hidden Wall Album: A Moment Of Incidentals Label: Kikapu Another interesting label working around the internet is Kikapu, offering mp3 but also CD-R releases. This is the new EP “A moment of incidentals” by Autistici, a massive work that combines drone with glitch in dense dark soundscapes 14. NOTO Track: Mm Album: Raster-noton_Archiv 1 Label: Raster-noton We close today’s session with Carsten Nicolai, Alva Noto, live this Thursday at La Casa Encendida with Byetone (Olaf Bender), and Friday with Komet (Frank Bretschneider) as a part of Signal, the project in which they join together as a trio. Promotional tour of the Raster-Noton label managers Nota: Este correo no ha sido solicitado, pero hemos considerado que te podría interesar. Si no quieres volver a recibir mensajes de nuestro programa, devuélvelo poniendo "Bórrame" en el asunto. Inmediatamente te borraremos del mailing. 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Tue Jun 8 20:45:13 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30575-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.42]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 08 Jun 2004 16:45:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 08 Jun 2004 16:47:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 82831 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 08 Jun 2004 20:47:03 +0000 Received: (qmail 82816 invoked from network); Tue, 08 Jun 2004 20:47:03 +0000 Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2004 16:47:00 -0400 (EDT) From: Abflug <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] Abflug news To: xxxxxxxxxxxx_xxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx, xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx, xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx, xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx, xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx, xxx-x@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx, xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx, xxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx, xxxxxx_xx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx, xxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx // Upcoming gigs Karri O. plays at Mbar in Helsinki, Finland with Machine (Ghetto System, Canada) on Thursday, June 10. Lake Lustre plays with Peta Morris at Palmenhaus in Vienna, Austria on Thursday, June 17 and Friday, June 18. Karri O. plays a deejay set at this year's Koneisto festival in Helsinki on August 14. Check out the full line up, featuring Richie Hawtin, Matthew Herbert, Akufen, Crackhaus, Jimi Tenor and Ellen Allien, at www.koneisto.com. Right after Koneisto we will set up a special Abflug lounge at ISEA (International Symposium on Electronic Art) in Helsinki. More info at www.isea2004.net and at www.abflugrec.com a bit later. // Reviews "... it maintains a timeless quality, not bending to current trends, and indeed being more akin to art than most modern music ... " Check out a review of Lake Lustre's Indecipherabilia at http://www.inthemix.com.au/p/np/viewnews.php?id=15739. Thank you for flying with us Abflug www.abflugrec.com Helsinki, Finland ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Jun 8 14:34:02 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30573-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.75]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 08 Jun 2004 10:34:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 08 Jun 2004 10:35:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 96149 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 08 Jun 2004 14:35:53 +0000 Received: (qmail 96139 invoked from network); Tue, 08 Jun 2004 14:35:53 +0000 Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2004 16:34:36 +0200 From: thost <xxxxxx@xxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Vienna- tomoroh hidari performance tonight To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <001701c44d65$b993e6d0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx> Organization: miscatonic acoustics MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4910.0300 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_HExv4hO27hwhHcmHo1ZKaA)" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Authenticated: #3048294 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> <001401c44c85$ecd28f00$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_HExv4hO27hwhHcmHo1ZKaA) Content-Type: text/plain; Charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit hi list, excuse the promotional abuse, don't know if anybody on this list is in vienna or will be here tonight, but guess its worth a try... my tomoroh hidari personality will do a live performance at a vernissage of a friend's exhibition at one of our city's public libraries this evening. ALPHABETT< opening: 8th of june 2004, 19.30 GMT --location: Bücherei Wieden; Favoritenstraße 4, 1040 Wien http://www.akbild.ac.at/index.php?l=de&a=742 based on my friend miriam jessacher's artwork ALPHABETT - graphic collages depicting indivduals reading (a) book(s) their living-environments, the performance will be based on recordings of five people silently reading in their "usual" reading situation (i.e. the chair, couch, bed they are used to read on/in most of the time) these will be processed to focus on the byproducts of our reading, sounds we usually blend out while reading, focussing on "empirical" - topics, such as the sounds produced by turning pages, patterns of regularity in these sounds, the passing of time and the parallels of these in the recordings of different persons. as well as metaphorical thoughts, such as niklas luhman's theory of communication as producing "resonance" between autonomous systems (humans) rather than the transfer of information. literature, lanuage, music are all able to create a consensual space between individuals and are therefore important in the develoment of the social and cultural systems they originate from. (very drafty thoughts, but my english ain't good enough to translate my concept) best, th_ost \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ th_ost: tomoroh hidari_oliver stummer alter & ego >>...this is an anagram of shit<< http://www.tomoroh.com/ http://www.stiege44.com/ http://www.skug.at/ --Boundary_(ID_HExv4hO27hwhHcmHo1ZKaA)-- From ???@??? Tue Jun 8 13:48:49 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30572-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta10.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta10.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.85]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 08 Jun 2004 09:48:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta10.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 08 Jun 2004 09:50:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 74883 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 08 Jun 2004 13:50:32 +0000 Received: (qmail 74863 invoked from network); Tue, 08 Jun 2004 13:50:31 +0000 Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2004 09:50:28 -0400 From: microbio records <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Microbio News To: xxx-x@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx, xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx, xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.613) Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_xyYYOXiMLQYKv1ohHwesuA)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Matched-Lists: [] X-Virus-Scanned: clamd / ClamAV version 0.70, clamav-milter version 0.70j X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_xyYYOXiMLQYKv1ohHwesuA) Content-Type: text/plain; Charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello all, this is our "mounthlly news letter" 1-Release June 2004. 2-Thanks Peru ------------------------------ 1- Microbio#17: PROTOV: We Were Young Pioneers EP (Medellin, Colombia) I meet [neuna] and low-low in Coyhaique, Chile; [neuna] was complaining about every dust particle that was nearing us, then I became clear to me that I'm not the only one complaining about particles and that there is more people in the region doing similar things. Maybe a lot of people, indeed, is doing great stuff in South America. No one of us is a pioneer, no one of us is really original; we are the mix of several cultures, but we never take the time to listen to our own rich environment and reality. "Probably the amount of sampling tape used in the making of this EP may cover my entire house, but is this work worth of it? It is something worth to make more music in a world full of nonsense and terrible projects that explore well known and common paths. Projects of people who consider themselves pioneers because of an excessive lack of knowledge? We are not pioneers. Besides, we'll never produce something new, and that's the way we are and that's the way we're going to be" [neuma] <<http://www.microbiorecords.net/>> check out the microbio series for download 2-Thanks to Peru I just came back from Lima, Peru. I really have to thank all the people from Peru because they showed me a different reality and a different approach to electronic music. I really went impressed by the number of people doing EM in Peru. If you don't know, Peru has the higher electoronic music festival on earth (4.100 metter over sea level). Peru really surprice me, I got invited to the first Iberoamerican Electronic Music Festival "CONTACTO" in the Centro de Cultura Español. I have no words to thanks Juan Carlos Barandarian for puting together this event. Juan Carlos became a great source of inspiration. Also I have to thank Ricardo for the CCE in Lima, Cristian Galarreta head of Aloardi Records, Jose Lopez (El Lazo Invisible) for being a great "tourist tourman", and all the people who attended our concerts and conferences (yeah, we talk about the Netaudio and Netlabels comunities). Thanks to all the musicians who were part of this festival: Edgar Valcarcel, Fernando Corona "Murcof", Juan Reyes, Flo Meneses, Jorge Haro, Felix Lazo, El Lazo (again) Visible ;-), Jaime Oliver, Christian Galarreta, Jadin y Nilo Velarde. ________________________ ________________________ www.microbiorecords.net xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx Merida, Venezuela. ________________________ "If the audience wants perfectly played music, let them listen to angels. Human music should stumble along most pitifully. [The mistakes of the performers] will continually offer unimaginable variations" N. Senada http://www.residents.com/collab/n-senada.html --Boundary_(ID_xyYYOXiMLQYKv1ohHwesuA)-- From ???@??? Tue Jun 8 03:28:38 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30570-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta10.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta10.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.85]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 07 Jun 2004 23:28:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta10.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 07 Jun 2004 23:30:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 17554 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 08 Jun 2004 03:30:28 +0000 Received: (qmail 17544 invoked from network); Tue, 08 Jun 2004 03:30:28 +0000 Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2004 23:30:16 -0400 From: "tobias c. van Veen" <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] CAE artist arrested [OT] In-reply-to: <000e01c44ce1$36ce0340$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxx> To: Microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>, Christopher Sorg <xxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BCEAAB08.13056%xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.4.030702.0 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx dear Christopher and others, I'd recommend reading the latest CAE book, "Molecular Invasion," available through Autonomedia [http://www.autonomedia.org] or online, for free, through CAE's website: http://www.critical-art.net/ direct: http://www.critical-art.net/books/molecular/index.html It should explain some of the issues that Christopher is worried about here. In fact Christopher's worries worry me, as it shows the lack of context and information people perhaps have of or should be aware of concerning CAE. CAE's work is especially useful in the US, as opposed to the EU, where the Europeans are far more weary about the weirdness they put into their bodies and require marking of all crops. In the US, the work to identify and understand what the corporations are up to is in part being left to artists who consider the most important task the flow of global life. Of course CAE are serious. They, like countless artist collectives before them throughout history, are political on a level which exceeds party representation. Their work is inherently about the freedom of exploration of life and ways to resist contemporary corporate control of our very basics -- not only abstract ideas like 'freedom,' but things like food and genetics. FYI, CAE, before their work on genetic property and modification, were at the forefront of the calls for digital resistance, hacktivism, and so on. At an earlier stage, Ricardo Dominguez was tangentically involved [ http://www.thing.net / http://rdom.thing.net/ ]. Dominguez was instrumental in breaking the Zapatistas online [ see his essays at http://www.ctheory.com ]. Again, check through the site above for CAE's work. Their text "Electronic Civil Disobediance" was instrumental and essential for sites like [ http://www.rtmark.com ] and things like the eToy war [ http://www.etoy.com vs. http://www.etoys.com]. Information here is key. The fact that CAE are being charged under the Patriot Act is not, for me, surprising. It is something that I have been discussing for several years in a few venues (such as earlier Panarticon columns in Discorder magazine). It is however perhaps a wake-up call (or a long, clanging clarion at this point) to my many friends across the US. The charges against CAE are unfair and dangerous. And far, far more dangerous than the unique and, if I can use a word far too abused today, courageous work CAE has decided to undertake of their own risk. That this risk has been exponentially raised due to an administration and law (Patriot Act) that has reversed more than a few US Constitutional Amendments under dubious circumstances should be taken into serious consideration. // + fragments: At MUTEK, a frequent topic of discussion among a few American artists (and more than one) was finding ways to seek refugee status in Canada. I am sure all of you know that the Draft will be (unless something happens) reinstated in 2005. best, tobias ps. For the record, I signed a letter of support for CAE and although I am critical of their work I support their freedom to continue to explore their work. Their approach is tactical and necessary. Why should we leave such work only in the hands of corporations? > I just wanted to sound off a bit on this issue, seeing as it has popped > up in a number of places, including this group and wired. Mr. Kurtz was > on the same panel I was involved with (The Jackal Project) at the > Version>02 festival two years ago, and frankly, he made me very nervous. > As I recall, he was placing an emphasis on creating genetic material to > infiltrate and counter GMO from Monsanto and other companies. This, to > me, sounded like a very serious and dangerous proposition. Mr. Kurtz > sounded very serious about the subject material. I don't want to come > off as an expert on Kurtz's efforts, but it did not read to me as > performance art, but as a call to action. Of course, GMO goods should > be heavily regulated, monitored and tested, and even then I'm not > confident that it can stop some serious problems from arising. But to > suggest that individuals should go and create virulent genetic strains > of their own to fend off other potentially risky genetics is, in > essence, biological and economical warfare. Basically, a really, really > bad idea. > > I would not go as far as to suggest that his wife had passed away as a > result of the work he is engaged in, but it might make me nervous living > next door. I remember being pretty pissed off that someone would even > suggest such a stupid idea as to "reseed" crops in order to infect GMO > strains. Who knows what disasterous effects could occur? Just last > week, Wired ran an article discussing the dangers of allowing seeds and > spores of GMOs modified for producing pharmaceuticals out into the open > air. I'm all for advances in technology, but we need to proceed with > patience and caution on both sides. > > Christopher > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Christopher Sorg > Multimedia Artist/Instructor > The School of the Art Institute of Chicago > Columbia College Chicago > http://www.csorg.org > xxxxx@xxxxx.xxx > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: tasty radish [mailto:xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx] >> Sent: Sunday, May 30, 2004 2:09 PM >> To: microsound >> Subject: [microsound] CAE artist arrested >> >> >> FBI ABDUCTS ARTIST, SEIZES ART >> Feds Unable to Distinguish Art from Bioterrorism >> Grieving Artist Denied Access to Deceased Wife's Body >> >> Critical Art Ensemble (CAE) collective member Steve >> Kurtz was already >> suffering from one tragedy when he called 911 early in >> >> the morning to tell >> them his wife had suffered a cardiac arrest and died >> in >> her sleep. The >> police arrived and, cranked up on the rhetoric of the >> "War >> on Terror," >> decided Kurtz's art supplies were actually >> bioterrorism >> weapons. >> >> Thus began an Orwellian stream of events in which FBI >> agents abducted Kurtz >> without charges, sealed off his entire block, and >> confiscated his >> computers, manuscripts, art supplies... and even his >> wife's body. >> >> Like the case of Brandon Mayfield, the Muslim lawyer >> from Portland >> imprisoned for two weeks on the flimsiest of false >> evidence, Kurtz's case >> amply demonstrates the dangers posed by the USA >> PATRIOT Act coupled with >> government-nurtured terrorism hysteria. >> >> Kurtz's case is ongoing, and, on top of everything >> else, >> Kurtz is facing a >> mountain of legal fees. Donations to his legal defense >> >> can be made at >> http://www.rtmark.com/CAEdefense/ >> >> >> >> Fear Run Amok >> Steve Kurtz is Associate Professor in the Department >> of >> Art at the State >> University of New York's University at Buffalo, and a >> member of the >> internationally-acclaimed Critical Art Ensemble. >> >> Kurtz's wife, Hope Kurtz, died in her sleep of cardiac >> >> arrest in the early >> morning hours of May 11. Police arrived, became >> suspicious of Kurtz's art >> supplies and called the FBI. >> >> Within hours, FBI agents had "detained" Kurtz as a >> suspected bioterrorist >> and cordoned off the entire block around his house. >> (Kurtz walked away the >> next day on the advice of a lawyer, his "detention" >> having >> proved to be >> illegal.) Over the next few days, dozens of agents in >> hazmat suits, from a >> number of law enforcement agencies, sifted through >> Kurtz's work, analyzing >> it on-site and impounding computers, manuscripts, >> books, equipment, and >> even his wife's body for further analysis. Meanwhile, >> the >> Buffalo Health >> Department condemned his house as a health risk. >> >> Kurtz, a member of the Critical Art Ensemble, makes >> art >> which addresses the >> politics of biotechnology. "Free Range Grains," CAE's >> latest project, >> included a mobile DNA extraction laboratory for >> testing >> food products for >> possible transgenic contamination. It was this >> equipment which triggered >> the Kafkaesque chain of events. >> >> FBI field and laboratory tests have shown that Kurtz's >> >> equipment was not >> used for any illegal purpose. In fact, it is not even >> possible to use this >> equipment for the production or weaponization of >> dangerous germs. >> Furthermore, any person in the US may legally obtain >> and possess such >> equipment. >> >> "Today, there is no legal way to stop huge >> corporations >> from putting >> genetically altered material in our food," said >> Defense >> Fund spokeswoman >> Carla Mendes. "Yet owning the equipment required to >> test for the presence >> of 'Frankenfood' will get you accused of 'terrorism.' >> You >> can be illegally >> detained by shadowy government agents, lose access to >> your home, work, and >> belongings, and find that your recently deceased >> spouse's body has been >> taken away for 'analysis.'" >> >> Though Kurtz has finally been able to return to his >> home >> and recover his >> wife's body, the FBI has still not returned any of his >> >> equipment, computers >> or manuscripts, nor given any indication of when they >> will. >> The case >> remains open. >> >> Help Urgently Needed >> A small fortune has already been spent on lawyers for >> Kurtz and other >> Critical Art Ensemble members. A defense fund has >> been established at >> CAEdefense to help defray the legal costs which will >> continue to mount so >> long as the investigation continues. Donations go >> directly >> to the legal >> defense of Kurtz and other Critical Art Ensemble >> members. Should the funds >> raised exceed the cost of the legal defense, any >> remaining money will be >> used to help other artists in need. >> >> To make a donation, please visit >> http://www.rtmark.com/ >> >> CAEdefense/ >> >> For more information on the Critical Art Ensemble, >> please visit >> http://www.critical-art.net/ >> >> >> Articles about the case: >> http://www.rtmark.com/CAEdefense/news-WKBW-> 2.html >> >> > http://www.rtmark.com/CAEdefense/news-WKBW.html > > > On > advice of counsel, Steve Kurtz is unable to answer > questions regarding > his case. Please direct questions or comments to Carla > > Mendes > xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx. > > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Yahoo! 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Tue Jun 8 01:46:59 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30569-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.75]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 07 Jun 2004 21:46:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 07 Jun 2004 21:48:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 89400 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 08 Jun 2004 01:48:50 +0000 Received: (qmail 89390 invoked from network); Tue, 08 Jun 2004 01:48:50 +0000 Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2004 21:49:48 -0400 From: richard chartier / LINE <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] RICHARD CHARTIER > 06.2004 > new releases > upcoming events > CHESSMACHINE CD OUT NOW To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>, xxxxxxxxx-xxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.613) Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_XrC/s2jJAUz5DPp/dyJkHA)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-ELNK-Trace: da01c0b8c04c08e3465474834dc8382a40683398e744b8a4042425ee635176d3707e7bedacb865e1350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_XrC/s2jJAUz5DPp/dyJkHA) Content-Type: text/plain; Charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit hello to all of you, this is the ( albeit a bit late) JUNE installment of the RICHARD CHARTIER update.... just back from the always wonderful MUTEK festival where Ivan Pavlov and I presented the world premiere performance of our collaborative work CHESSMACHINE with video by Dmitry Gelfand & Evelina Domnitch the performance went quite well and got many people to raise their eyebrows in confusion and surprise, especially at me being quite LOUD and NOISEY....(can you believe it!) a video excerpt of early part of the performance can be seen online: http://zed.cbc.ca/go.ZeD? POS=6&CONTENT_ID=140005&mediaSize=double&FILTER_KEY%0A=45325&page=media- viewer currently arranging CHESSMACHINE to be continued in YOUR city : ) summer of love? summer of loath? r > NEW/RECENT RELEASES > CD OUT NOW . William Basinski + Richard Chartier [ Spekk, Japan ] > mini CDROM OUT NOW!. 00:dedaih [ Synchron, Switzerland ] with Steinbruchel, Stephan Mathieu, Frank Bretschnieder, Richard Chartier a very limited number of signed copies of these releases are now available through via the 3particles pay pal shop: http://www.3particles.com/paypal > CD OUT NOW . CHESSMACHINE [ Mutek_rec, Canada ] http://www.mutek.ca i have 10 copies of this cd for sale. the first 5 buyers will receive one of the limited edition CHESSMACHINE pins made for the live performance. because of the limited quantity please contact me directly about purchasing: xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx $16US / $18 WORLD (including shipping) > UPCOMING EVENTS >LIVE . Austin Museum of Digital Art AMODA [ Austin, Texas ] June 11, 2004 > LIVE . Los Angeles Museum of Contemporary Art [ LA, California ] June 24, 2004 in conjunction with the exhibit "A MINIMAL FUTURE? ART AS OBJECT 1958-1968" > LIVE . Recombinant Labs Compound ( with MATMOS (US) FRANCIS DHOMONT (France) JEAN FRANÇOIS DENIS (Canada) ) [ San Francisco, California ] June 25, 26. (short set: approx 25 minutes) http://www.asphodel.com/doc/news.live.html > LIVE . Festival Garage [ Straslund, Germany ] date in late july august to be confirmed. > UPCOMING RELEASES, ETC > 2x12" . 1.8 compilation. The compilation will be 2x12" records with 4 tracks, 8 artists on each. Each artist has contributed a 1.8 second sound file to be a lock groove. Each work ends with another artists' lockgroove. Includes tracks by Richard Chartier, Tim Hecker, Mitchell Akiyama, Duul_Drv, Taylor Deupree, Kim Cascone, 3x3is9, Roel Meelkop. June/July 2004. (1.8)sec.records is an electronic label based out of Canada. (1.8)sec.records LP releases utilize the physical properties of the medium within each release. http://www.1pt8.tk > CD . Placode [ n160, Japan ] August 2004. http://www.n160.com . This elaborately aluminum packaged cd compilation curated by Nibo [ LINE/Raster-Noton] will contain the piece "retrieval#3(for placodes). artists on this compilation: carsten nicolai, christophe charles, frank bretschneider, nibo, byetone, richard chartier, sachiko.m, sogar, steve roden, taylor deupree, and otomo yoshihide > LP . Retrieval [ ERS, The Netherlands ] 2004. my first solo vinyl release. > CD . Performance [ Trente Oiseaux ] Fall 2004. Live performance recording from 2003/2004. > CD . SPEC.2 / Specification.fifteen with Taylor Deupree [ TBA ] 2004/5. initial work has begun on this collaboration. It will be based on our collaborative performances in Rome and Madrid in March. > PRINT . "L-NExtraction" limited edition of 50 signed/numbered edition 4 color process iris graphic print on archival rives BFK. more details to come. > BOOK . "On the surface of silence: reticence in the music of Richard Chartier" by Will Montgomery in BLOCKS OF CONSCIOUSNESS AND THE UNBROKEN CONTINUUM. Publisher: Sound 323. Editors: Brian Marley+Mark Wastell. Fall 2004 >>>>>> CHARTIER ONLINE SHOP: http://www.3particles.com/paypal <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< --Boundary_(ID_XrC/s2jJAUz5DPp/dyJkHA)-- From ???@??? Tue Jun 8 01:34:57 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30568-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.70]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 07 Jun 2004 21:34:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 07 Jun 2004 21:36:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 84202 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 08 Jun 2004 01:36:45 +0000 Received: (qmail 84192 invoked from network); Tue, 08 Jun 2004 01:36:45 +0000 Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2004 11:36:39 +1000 From: Mitchell Whitelaw <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] data -> sound examples In-reply-to: <000001c44c64$50549ea0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.618) Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_u4PZJxoDcn/GWu3KZ/VwsQ)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <000001c44c64$50549ea0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Jun 2004 01:37:21.0855 (UTC) FILETIME=[24A494F0:01C44CF9] --Boundary_(ID_u4PZJxoDcn/GWu3KZ/VwsQ) Content-Type: text/plain; Charset=WINDOWS-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Thanks all for the excellent examples... Maybe I can do some comparative analysis on the fly as a way to tease this out some more. Seems that a popular approach is the "data as found object" - the data readymade, as in, plugging in the found EPROM, reading back whatever is in the Amiga memory (I too was a child of the A1000), reading in the ..exe as sound. Databending seems to be all in this category, using found data as starting points for subsequent processing. All this in turn is good old sound expansion, a technique which has brought joy to the avant garde since, I dunno, orchestral music with cannons in it. Not that there's anything wrong with that, but the core of my interest is, where do you go from there, if you're going to actually engage with the properties of digital data, either 'in itself', or as a symbol or trace of something else. One answer is 'straight' data sonification, where you work hard at parsing, analysing and interpreting data in order to turn it into sound in some perceptually 'significant' or 'useful' way (depends on what you mean by useful of course). But I'm sure there are other answers too: Christopher Sorg's post suggests an interest in learning a whole new set of perceptual processes (internalising and unconsciously modelling the sound/image/data mapping). The parallel with a kind of hacked, synaesthetic nervous system is interesting; is data.aesethetics partly about altering perception? If so, then maybe by focusing on 'raw data' we are learning to hear and see like a (pre-existing) digital machine - for example I might be able, with training, to distinguish a TIFF format file from a JPEG format file just by listening to it... but so? Using analytical processes and different mappings seems to be a way to re-structure that machine, and correspondingly re-structure our perceptual experience. Hearing 'the data itself' seems to be a common interest... but this is an impossible desire! We can only hear sound... and so the question comes back to mapping. A quote to finish this rave: "This is the new politics of mapping of computer culture. Who has the power to decide what kind of mapping to use? Which dimensions are selected? What kind of interface is provided for the user? These new questions about data mapping are now as important as more traditional questions about the politics of media representation.” Lev Manovich - The Anti-Sublime Ideal in New Media - http://www.chairetmetal.com/cm07/manovich-complet.htm There's lots more interesting stuff in this paper if you're so inclined. Thanks again all, for the good stuff... Mitchell http://www.ce.canberra.edu.au/staff/mitchellwhitelaw --Boundary_(ID_u4PZJxoDcn/GWu3KZ/VwsQ)-- From ???@??? Tue Jun 8 00:48:26 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30567-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.78]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 07 Jun 2004 20:48:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 07 Jun 2004 20:50:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 69249 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 08 Jun 2004 00:50:16 +0000 Received: (qmail 69239 invoked from network); Tue, 08 Jun 2004 00:50:16 +0000 Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2004 20:50:15 -0400 From: tad <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] death of steve lacy In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx.xxxx.x@xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>, xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx@xx.xxx.xxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mailsmith 1.1.6 (Bluto) Content-type: text/plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx WKCR is having a major retrospective of his work. It's been on since Saturday and I think will continue for another day at least... wkcr.org Tad <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Jun 8 00:13:53 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30566-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.69]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 07 Jun 2004 20:13:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 07 Jun 2004 20:15:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 58567 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 08 Jun 2004 00:15:44 +0000 Received: (qmail 58557 invoked from network); Tue, 08 Jun 2004 00:15:43 +0000 Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2004 10:15:36 +1000 From: Ian Andrews <x.xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] data -> sound examples In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BCEB4248.E9AD%x.xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.4.030702.0 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx Hi Mitchell, Some historical examples: Alvin Lucier I think did some work with data as a sound source in the 70s (I'm not certain on this one but I think its worth checking up) Throbbing Gristle used a found data cassette as a sound source on the track "IBM" on the album D.O.A... In 79? Tom Ellard wrote a program in Basic (on either a Commodore 64, or TRS80) which looped a subroutine in different ways to create a rhythm when transferred to data cassette and played in an audio cassette deck (I think this is how it was done). The track is (I think) "acid fur" from the 1st severed heads album "ear bitten" 1979 or 80 My own efforts: Several years ago I bought an old Sequential Circuits drum machine (can't remember the model number). This particular machine has removable EPROMs so that you can change the way it sounds by installing different EPROM chips. You could buy different kick drums, snares and high hats, on seperate EPROM chips or you could burn your own sounds with an EPROM burner. Since the same result could be much more easily achieved with a sampler, this kind of thing was of little interest to me. Instead I went about pulling EPROMs out of discarded computers and other equipment that I'd find in skips or by the side of the road. The drum machine accepted the standard size EPROM chips which are used in most computers and microprocessor controlled equipment. It was just a matter of plugging these chips in and listening to the sounds that the drum machine would interpret from the random data. From some I got quite interesting results. From others I'd just get white noise. A few years ago I did a performance with a SW radio and a Roland EF-303 effects processor & step sequencer. The radio picked up the raw data from the unearthed EF-303 and the output of the radio was fed back into the EF-303. This feedback loop could be "played" like a Theremin by moving the radio around in the air. Mitchell Whitelawwrote: > Some blatant brain-picking to go with the OS discussions... > > I'm doing some research on music and sound that (consciously or not) > does "data sonification", turning non-sound data from whatever source, > into sound/music. The recent microsound RNDTXT project is a great > example; other people have posted about using unix to pipe data > straight to the audio device... and there are a number of artists doing > this kind of work (not all microsoundish), including Douglas Repetto, > Andrea Polli, Bob Sturm, Mark Hansen / Ben Rubin (Listening Post), > Jason Freeman (NAG - Gnutella Auraliser), and Andi Freeman's old > Headbanger browser. > > Can you think of any more? I'm especially interested in works coming > from a more microsound / experimental electronica angle... I recall > hearing something about Aphex Twin using an image -> sound processor at > some point? Who else has travelled the "pure data" route? > > "Data art" has been fashionable in net.art circles for a while now... > and Lev Manovich has started writing his "info-aesthetics" project... > but nobody much seems to be talking about the aesthetics of data.sound > (correct me if I'm wrong)... > > Thanks, > > Mitchell > http://www.ce.canberra.edu.au/staff/mitchellwhitelaw > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Jun 8 09:27:00 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30571-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.69]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 08 Jun 2004 05:27:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 08 Jun 2004 05:28:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 99536 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 08 Jun 2004 09:28:55 +0000 Received: (qmail 99526 invoked from network); Tue, 08 Jun 2004 09:28:55 +0000 Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2004 01:11:39 +0200 From: bastien remion <xxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] Playlist "electrons libres-Futur (re)mix" To: Forum <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: YAM 2.4p1 [020] AmigaOS E-mail Client (c) 2000-2003 by YAM Open Source Team - http://www.yam.ch/ Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx Hello everybody all the microsounder's...Como allez-vous??? WELCOME TO THE ELECTRONS LIBRES AND FUTURE (re)<MIX NEWSLETTER -----------------------------------ELECTRONS----------------- ---------------LIBRES------------------------------------ --------------------POWERPLAY ----------------------------------- ---------------------06/06/04-------"2 live for all time"------------------------------ First Live: 1-Four Tet: As Serious as your life[Live] (Domino, Pias) time:23min -12" As serious as your life 2-ErrorSmith: Live @ Berlin in 2001 (SoundHack records, Hardwax) more infos: http://www.errorsmith.com -------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------FUTURE (re)MIX------------------ +++++++++-----13h/16h---------------01/05/04******-----+-+-+++- ------------------------------------------- Check it the may playlist @ http://www.radiobeton.com Part1....Is Back In time...It's THE BRAIN #51 All playlist : http://lautre.thebrain.net Intro by Yotoko (Delsin records, Rushhour) 1-Benny Blanko: Groove 01 (Playhouse) -Homestyle 4 ep 2-Theo Parrish: Blue Moon (Sound Signature) -Blue Moon ep 3-Iz & Diz: What we need [Pepe Bradock remix] (Classic) -What we need ep 4-Metro Area: Orange Alert (Environ records) -Album "Metro Area" 5-Smith'n'Hack: Footstomping smoker (SoundHack, Hardwax) -A Tribute ep 6-Matthew Dear:But For you (Spectral Sound) -Album "Leave Luck to Heaven" 7-Lucas Rodenbush: Motivate (Affected music) -Kinetic progressions ep 8-Riton:Initial Problems (Grand Central) -ALbum "Beats du jour" 9-Thomas Brinkmann:Max E.3 (Max.E, La Baleine) -Album "Row" 10-Lusine:Slapback (Ghostly int) -Slapback ep 11-Wishmountain [Aka Matthew Herbert] (Antiphon records-1997) -Album "Wishmountain" FOCUS ON SENSIBLE FESTIVAL 11/06 sensible festival : lives : daniel bell / dandy jack / pantytec / cabanne (nouveau casino) With extract of V/A Post Office 1 [Daniel Bell], V/A Post Office2 [Pantytec] and V/A Superlongevity 2 [Dandy Jack] 12/06 sensible festival live : akufen / krikor / rip off artist / baby ford (dj) (nouveau casino) With Extract of Akufen: Wet Floors [My way], Rip-Off Artist [Pet sounds] And Baby Ford 13/06 sensible festival (after 6h-12h) dj : zip / daniel bell (nouveau casino) 2/parcours de nuit dans paris : 7/06 the 4 gentlemen of the guitar = oren ambarchi / christian fennesz / toshimaru nakamura / keith rowe (instants chavires) 7/06 pixies (zenith) 8/06 ash in the rainbow (haco + sakamoto hiromichi) / juicy panic (mami chan + norman bambi) / bimbo mix (dirty dancing = bal forain du cirque electrique) http://dragibus.jp 9/06 mahayoni mudra / circle (instants chavires) 9/06 peter kruder 22h (favela beurk chic) 0h00 (pulp) 9/06 soiree fiasco system : knifeandchop (tigerbeat6) / group gris (ile enchantee) free 10/06 aki onda / dust breeders + junko (instants chavires) 10/06 cylob (batofar) 10/06 crack:war / the fucking machine (guinguette pirate) http://www.infamouslabels.com 10/06 metal urbain punk party (nouveau casino) 10/06 jean-jacques perrey (batofar) 10/06 fcom 10 ans deja ! (rex club) free 11/06 fabrice lig (triptyque) 11/06 dj stress (project 101) 11/06 sensible festival : lives : daniel bell / dandy jack / pantytec / cabanne (nouveau casino) 11/06 joey beltram (batofar) 12/06 komsomolsk (project 101) 12/06 andrew weatherall (batofar) 12/06 sensible festival live : akufen / krikor / rip off artist / baby ford (dj) (nouveau casino) 12/06 feadz /alex katapult (batofar) 12/06 sebastien roux (bretigny) 13/06 sensible festival (after 6h-12h) dj : zip / daniel bell (nouveau casino) 13/06 goth trad + miho + alexandre bellenger (voutes) 15/06 man¹s best friend (sole) / bleubird 16/06 michael gendreau, tore honoré boe (handmade laptop), eric cordier (no output laptop) (voutes) 17/06 dj vadim (batofar) 17/06 tobias bernstrup live / daniel pflumm & kotaï live & dj set (nouveau casino) 17/06 john duncan / zbigniew karkowski / kouhei / rudolfeb.er / matsunaga (voutes) 17/06 detroit grand pubah (rex club) 17/06 goodiepal + jab mica och el / maider fortune (menagerie de verre) http://www.infamouslabels.com 18/06 sylvain chauveau frédéric nogray et cocoon (voutes) 20/06 rjd2 / meteorites / dictaphone / double u / hypo (parc andre citroen) free *21/06 un bon conseil : restez chez vousŠ* 3/festivals a ne pas rater : 11/06 13/06 sensible festival (paris) http://www.logisticrecords.com/fr/project.php?id=9 16/06 -19/06 algorhythm (barcelone) http://www.absorb.org/algorhythm 17/06 -19/06 narso (barcelone) http://sonar.es 20/06 - 19/09 festival souslaplage (paris) http://www.souslaplage.com 1/07 - 3/07 offf (valencia) http://www.offf.ws 2/07 et 11/07 siestes electroniques (toulouse) http://www.les-siestes-electroniques.com 28 & 29/08 feed back 2 (paris) Heee ya.... Happyness all and "see the Sun" Bye!!! ----------------------------***--//---]]]-[------------------- Radio Béton 93.6/electrons libres 17h-18h /The Brain13h-14h /Future (re)Mix monday 14h-15h30 90 avenue Maginot 37100 Tours tèl:0247510383 http://www.radiobeton.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Jun 7 22:43:27 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30565-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.70]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 07 Jun 2004 18:43:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 07 Jun 2004 18:45:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 20824 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 07 Jun 2004 22:45:16 +0000 Received: (qmail 20814 invoked from network); Mon, 07 Jun 2004 22:45:16 +0000 Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2004 17:46:03 -0500 From: Christopher Sorg <xxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: RE: [microsound] CAE artist arrested [OT] In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: 'microsound' <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <000e01c44ce1$36ce0340$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.3416 Content-type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx I just wanted to sound off a bit on this issue, seeing as it has popped up in a number of places, including this group and wired. Mr. Kurtz was on the same panel I was involved with (The Jackal Project) at the Version>02 festival two years ago, and frankly, he made me very nervous. As I recall, he was placing an emphasis on creating genetic material to infiltrate and counter GMO from Monsanto and other companies. This, to me, sounded like a very serious and dangerous proposition. Mr. Kurtz sounded very serious about the subject material. I don't want to come off as an expert on Kurtz's efforts, but it did not read to me as performance art, but as a call to action. Of course, GMO goods should be heavily regulated, monitored and tested, and even then I'm not confident that it can stop some serious problems from arising. But to suggest that individuals should go and create virulent genetic strains of their own to fend off other potentially risky genetics is, in essence, biological and economical warfare. Basically, a really, really bad idea. I would not go as far as to suggest that his wife had passed away as a result of the work he is engaged in, but it might make me nervous living next door. I remember being pretty pissed off that someone would even suggest such a stupid idea as to "reseed" crops in order to infect GMO strains. Who knows what disasterous effects could occur? Just last week, Wired ran an article discussing the dangers of allowing seeds and spores of GMOs modified for producing pharmaceuticals out into the open air. I'm all for advances in technology, but we need to proceed with patience and caution on both sides. Christopher ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Christopher Sorg Multimedia Artist/Instructor The School of the Art Institute of Chicago Columbia College Chicago http://www.csorg.org xxxxx@xxxxx.xxx ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > -----Original Message----- > From: tasty radish [mailto:xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx] > Sent: Sunday, May 30, 2004 2:09 PM > To: microsound > Subject: [microsound] CAE artist arrested > > > FBI ABDUCTS ARTIST, SEIZES ART > Feds Unable to Distinguish Art from Bioterrorism > Grieving Artist Denied Access to Deceased Wife's Body > > Critical Art Ensemble (CAE) collective member Steve > Kurtz was already > suffering from one tragedy when he called 911 early in > > the morning to tell > them his wife had suffered a cardiac arrest and died > in > her sleep. The > police arrived and, cranked up on the rhetoric of the > "War > on Terror," > decided Kurtz's art supplies were actually > bioterrorism > weapons. > > Thus began an Orwellian stream of events in which FBI > agents abducted Kurtz > without charges, sealed off his entire block, and > confiscated his > computers, manuscripts, art supplies... and even his > wife's body. > > Like the case of Brandon Mayfield, the Muslim lawyer > from Portland > imprisoned for two weeks on the flimsiest of false > evidence, Kurtz's case > amply demonstrates the dangers posed by the USA > PATRIOT Act coupled with > government-nurtured terrorism hysteria. > > Kurtz's case is ongoing, and, on top of everything > else, > Kurtz is facing a > mountain of legal fees. Donations to his legal defense > > can be made at > http://www.rtmark.com/CAEdefense/ > > > > Fear Run Amok > Steve Kurtz is Associate Professor in the Department > of > Art at the State > University of New York's University at Buffalo, and a > member of the > internationally-acclaimed Critical Art Ensemble. > > Kurtz's wife, Hope Kurtz, died in her sleep of cardiac > > arrest in the early > morning hours of May 11. Police arrived, became > suspicious of Kurtz's art > supplies and called the FBI. > > Within hours, FBI agents had "detained" Kurtz as a > suspected bioterrorist > and cordoned off the entire block around his house. > (Kurtz walked away the > next day on the advice of a lawyer, his "detention" > having > proved to be > illegal.) Over the next few days, dozens of agents in > hazmat suits, from a > number of law enforcement agencies, sifted through > Kurtz's work, analyzing > it on-site and impounding computers, manuscripts, > books, equipment, and > even his wife's body for further analysis. Meanwhile, > the > Buffalo Health > Department condemned his house as a health risk. > > Kurtz, a member of the Critical Art Ensemble, makes > art > which addresses the > politics of biotechnology. "Free Range Grains," CAE's > latest project, > included a mobile DNA extraction laboratory for > testing > food products for > possible transgenic contamination. It was this > equipment which triggered > the Kafkaesque chain of events. > > FBI field and laboratory tests have shown that Kurtz's > > equipment was not > used for any illegal purpose. In fact, it is not even > possible to use this > equipment for the production or weaponization of > dangerous germs. > Furthermore, any person in the US may legally obtain > and possess such > equipment. > > "Today, there is no legal way to stop huge > corporations > from putting > genetically altered material in our food," said > Defense > Fund spokeswoman > Carla Mendes. "Yet owning the equipment required to > test for the presence > of 'Frankenfood' will get you accused of 'terrorism.' > You > can be illegally > detained by shadowy government agents, lose access to > your home, work, and > belongings, and find that your recently deceased > spouse's body has been > taken away for 'analysis.'" > > Though Kurtz has finally been able to return to his > home > and recover his > wife's body, the FBI has still not returned any of his > > equipment, computers > or manuscripts, nor given any indication of when they > will. > The case > remains open. > > Help Urgently Needed > A small fortune has already been spent on lawyers for > Kurtz and other > Critical Art Ensemble members. A defense fund has > been established at > CAEdefense to help defray the legal costs which will > continue to mount so > long as the investigation continues. Donations go > directly > to the legal > defense of Kurtz and other Critical Art Ensemble > members. Should the funds > raised exceed the cost of the legal defense, any > remaining money will be > used to help other artists in need. > > To make a donation, please visit > http://www.rtmark.com/ > > CAEdefense/ > > For more information on the Critical Art Ensemble, > please visit > http://www.critical-art.net/ > > > Articles about the case: > http://www.rtmark.com/CAEdefense/news-WKBW-> 2.html > > http://www.rtmark.com/CAEdefense/news-WKBW.html On advice of counsel, Steve Kurtz is unable to answer questions regarding his case. Please direct questions or comments to Carla Mendes xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Yahoo! 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Mon Jun 7 20:46:30 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30564-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.69]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 07 Jun 2004 16:46:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 07 Jun 2004 16:48:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 68657 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 07 Jun 2004 20:48:21 +0000 Received: (qmail 68638 invoked from network); Mon, 07 Jun 2004 20:48:20 +0000 Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2004 16:51:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Neil Wiernik <xxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] photography In-reply-to: <xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> Organization: The Dreaming Electronic Community Network Inc. MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at dreaming.org X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx auto illistrator have great plug ins/filter for manipulating image... On Mon, 7 Jun 2004, sarah-michelle geller wrote: > as this list appears to be full of people who don't create only music, i was > wondering if anyone out there uses photoshop or any of its various clones > and can tell me the names of some interesting 8bf plugin filters. > by interesting, i mean unconventional, etc. > > thanks for any help. > > _________________________________________________________________ > Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > -------------------------------------- [neil adam wiernik aka naw] xxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx [music available on] http://www.noisefactoryrecords.com http://www.pieheadrecords.com http://www.worthyrecords.com http://www.complot.ca [artist features] http://www.clevermusic.net http://www.newmusiccanada.com http://www.cognitionaudioworks.com -------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Jun 7 20:36:29 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30563-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.42]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 07 Jun 2004 16:36:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 07 Jun 2004 16:38:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 64835 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 07 Jun 2004 20:38:20 +0000 Received: (qmail 64824 invoked from network); Mon, 07 Jun 2004 20:38:20 +0000 Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2004 23:38:16 +0300 From: sarah-michelle geller <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] photography X-Originating-IP: [80.225.86.103] X-Sender: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Bcc: Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Originating-Email: [xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Jun 2004 20:38:17.0927 (UTC) FILETIME=[5D3A7570:01C44CCF] as this list appears to be full of people who don't create only music, i was wondering if anyone out there uses photoshop or any of its various clones and can tell me the names of some interesting 8bf plugin filters. by interesting, i mean unconventional, etc. thanks for any help. _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Jun 7 20:33:43 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30562-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.42]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 07 Jun 2004 16:33:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 07 Jun 2004 16:35:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 56433 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 07 Jun 2004 20:34:30 +0000 Received: (qmail 22423 invoked from network); Mon, 07 Jun 2004 20:25:45 +0000 Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2004 16:29:49 -0400 From: Al C <xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Music on Ataris In-reply-to: <BCE9A4DB.16E%xxxxxxxx@xxx.xx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BCEA487C.62D1%xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx on 6/7/04 4:51 AM, Matthew at xxxxxxxx@xxx.xx.xxx wrote: > Does anyone have any experience with music or sound on the old atari > computers (particularly the 800xl, and the console-ish 2600). I heard about > it somewhere, but I haven't had any luck finding programs or resources for > it. > > -matt ahh... you just reminded me of where it all started for me. here is a link to a vast resource of atari hard/software. they should be able to sort you out with all of your atari needs. omnid http://www.myatari.com/b&ctest/history.htm --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Jun 7 19:29:14 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30561-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.72]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 07 Jun 2004 15:29:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 07 Jun 2004 15:31:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 97189 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 07 Jun 2004 19:29:39 +0000 Received: (qmail 93771 invoked from network); Mon, 07 Jun 2004 19:28:43 +0000 Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2004 14:29:30 -0500 From: Christopher Sorg <xxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: RE: [microsound] Re: Music on Ataris In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: 'microsound' <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <000901c44cc5$c1a30090$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.3416 Content-type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx A couple of apropos links: An excellent article on O'Reilly... http://www.oreillynet.com/cs/user/print/a/4849 ....including the venerable SynthCart.... http://qotile.net/synth.html ....or, DIY... http://www.atariage.com/forums/viewforum.php?f=31 Now the scene will blow up like circuit-bending and GameBoy music, everyone buying a SynthCart. Don't ruin it for everyone; use sparingly, like salt ;) Christopher ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Christopher Sorg Multimedia Artist/Instructor The School of the Art Institute of Chicago Columbia College Chicago http://www.csorg.org xxxxx@xxxxx.xxx ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.693 / Virus Database: 454 - Release Date: 5/31/2004 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? 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Mon Jun 7 17:07:33 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30559-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta10.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta10.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.85]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 07 Jun 2004 13:07:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta10.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 07 Jun 2004 13:09:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 92001 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 07 Jun 2004 17:09:23 +0000 Received: (qmail 91991 invoked from network); Mon, 07 Jun 2004 17:09:22 +0000 Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2004 10:09:20 -0700 (PDT) From: jorge castro <xxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Re: Music on Ataris In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx http://www.atari-noise.com/ Game as an art object. by arcangel constantini (mexico city). > Does anyone have any experience with music or sound > on the old atari > computers (particularly the 800xl, and the > console-ish 2600). I heard about > it somewhere, but I haven't had any luck finding > programs or resources for > it. > > -matt > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Yahoo! Messenger. http://messenger.yahoo.com/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Jun 7 16:49:58 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30558-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.42]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 07 Jun 2004 12:49:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 07 Jun 2004 12:51:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 84307 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 07 Jun 2004 16:51:46 +0000 Received: (qmail 84297 invoked from network); Mon, 07 Jun 2004 16:51:46 +0000 Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2004 12:44:33 -0400 From: stephen hastings-king <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] death of steve lacy Sender: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxx.x@xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-User-Info: 68.163.23.89 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx don't know if you have heard about this: http://senators.free.fr/ such a shame...... ----------------------------------------------------- http://eo.yifan.net Free POP3/Web Email, File Manager, Calendar and Address Book --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Jun 7 16:09:58 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30557-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.74]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 07 Jun 2004 12:09:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 07 Jun 2004 12:11:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 61558 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 07 Jun 2004 16:11:49 +0000 Received: (qmail 61541 invoked from network); Mon, 07 Jun 2004 16:11:48 +0000 Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2004 16:11:44 +0000 (UTC) From: Phil Thomson <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] data -> sound examples In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-X-Sender: xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx There's the databenders group, of course. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/databenders/ There's someone I know who is doing an alternative kind of network auralization; I will ask him to send out a statement or similar if he has one. I've done some stuff with data -> sound. Check out, for example, acoasma at my webpage: http://ww.sfu.ca/~pthomson/ There was other stuff I was going to mention. I will re-post if I remember it. P On Mon, 7 Jun 2004, Mitchell Whitelaw wrote: > Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2004 16:03:31 +1000 > From: Mitchell Whitelaw <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> > Reply-To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> > To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > Subject: [microsound] data -> sound examples > > Some blatant brain-picking to go with the OS discussions... > > I'm doing some research on music and sound that (consciously or not) does > "data sonification", turning non-sound data from whatever source, into > sound/music. The recent microsound RNDTXT project is a great example; other > people have posted about using unix to pipe data straight to the audio > device... and there are a number of artists doing this kind of work (not all > microsoundish), including Douglas Repetto, Andrea Polli, Bob Sturm, Mark > Hansen / Ben Rubin (Listening Post), Jason Freeman (NAG - Gnutella > Auraliser), and Andi Freeman's old Headbanger browser. > > Can you think of any more? I'm especially interested in works coming from a > more microsound / experimental electronica angle... I recall hearing > something about Aphex Twin using an image -> sound processor at some point? > Who else has travelled the "pure data" route? > > "Data art" has been fashionable in net.art circles for a while now... and Lev > Manovich has started writing his "info-aesthetics" project... but nobody much > seems to be talking about the aesthetics of data.sound (correct me if I'm > wrong)... > > Thanks, > > Mitchell > http://www.ce.canberra.edu.au/staff/mitchellwhitelaw ========= Phil Thomson home: http://www.sfu.ca/~pthomson label: http://centibel.org/ group: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/databenders/ ========= SDF Public Access UNIX System http://www.freeshell.org/ Geekier than you since 1987. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Jun 7 16:06:45 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30556-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.68]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 07 Jun 2004 12:06:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 07 Jun 2004 12:08:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 58511 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 07 Jun 2004 16:08:33 +0000 Received: (qmail 58500 invoked from network); Mon, 07 Jun 2004 16:08:33 +0000 Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2004 18:10:23 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Th=E9ophraste_Peeble?= <xxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] data -> sound examples To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Th=E9ophraste_Peeble?= <xxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xx> Message-id: <000901c44ca9$f031dc40$xxxxxxxx@xxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Mailbox-Line: From xxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xx Mon Jun 07 18:08:30 2004 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <001401c44c85$ecd28f00$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx> <l03130300bcea381e47bf@[213.84.105.55]> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx That's a long time that I wanted to make something musical using other materials than sound, so your discussion made me really curious. I tried to use "Bitmaps and Waves" and I made five wavefiles with five pictures of eyes. If you want - and if you've got time - you could help me making some samples with these files and sending them to me, or making an entire track, I will be really pleased. The aim is making a kind of synaesthesia, showing how vision could be linked to audition. http://mapage.noos.fr/verchonfourgu/oeil --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Jun 7 15:19:30 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30555-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.74]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 07 Jun 2004 11:19:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 07 Jun 2004 11:21:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 45201 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 07 Jun 2004 15:21:19 +0000 Received: (qmail 45188 invoked from network); Mon, 07 Jun 2004 15:21:19 +0000 Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2004 17:21:16 +0200 From: Arie van Schutterhoef <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] data -> sound examples In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <l03130300bcea381e47bf@[213.84.105.55]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <001401c44c85$ecd28f00$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx >its nice that this discussion is getting more in depth >than in the past. -That's because we all have become much older and wiser... 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Mon Jun 7 14:50:35 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30554-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.42]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 07 Jun 2004 10:50:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 07 Jun 2004 10:52:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 31798 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 07 Jun 2004 14:52:24 +0000 Received: (qmail 31788 invoked from network); Mon, 07 Jun 2004 14:52:24 +0000 Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2004 07:52:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Brian Klein <xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] data -> sound examples In-reply-to: <001401c44c85$ecd28f00$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx thanks for those links. i had no idea they had updated bitmap player. also, that waveform drawing program looks especially cool. its nice that this discussion is getting more in depth than in the past. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Jun 7 14:00:32 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30553-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.68]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 07 Jun 2004 10:00:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 07 Jun 2004 10:02:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 20788 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 07 Jun 2004 14:02:22 +0000 Received: (qmail 20769 invoked from network); Mon, 07 Jun 2004 14:02:21 +0000 Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2004 11:01:55 -0300 From: N0-Age <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] remixers wanted ! In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040113 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <BCD95ADD.12A72%xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx hi, i got interested on the remix project. may i upload my track to a server so you can download it? do you want wav or mp3? best, zusa The Expert wrote: > Dear list, > > a friend of mine, German guitar player Dennis Schütze, has a project > online at > > http://www.picturesinmymind.com/ > > where he's presenting source material and results of de- or > re-constructing one of his songs. > > Yes, it's really a song, so those of you who think this is too naive > should skip right now. > All the other people who have some spare time and see the challenge in > participating and messing up a simple song are heartly welcome to do > so. The source material consists of two tracks incl. vocals and guitar. > The first bunch of remixes has already been released on CD, but was > aimed more towards "accessibility". The second wave of remixes is > expected to go far more into experimental, electro-acoustic, glitch or > abstract realms, so please don't take the examples presented at the > moment as a guideline. > There's no commercial aspect to the project, so all you get is the > chance to reach a new audience more familiar with popular music. You > also get full credit and, in case of a release, some CDs to spread. > > I really hope that some of you get into it (and show the 1-2-3-4 > people what deconstruction really means ...). > > Adress any further questions off-list to xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Jun 7 11:52:09 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30552-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta10.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta10.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.85]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 07 Jun 2004 07:52:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta10.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 07 Jun 2004 07:53:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 86705 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 07 Jun 2004 11:53:47 +0000 Received: (qmail 86694 invoked from network); Mon, 07 Jun 2004 11:53:47 +0000 Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2004 13:52:29 +0200 From: thost <xxxxxx@xxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] data -> sound examples To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <001401c44c85$ecd28f00$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx> Organization: miscatonic acoustics MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4910.0300 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_dNBCCl2nUBqIzepcuWeQHw)" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Authenticated: #3048294 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_dNBCCl2nUBqIzepcuWeQHw) Content-Type: text/plain; Charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit allow me to chime in, even if i'm not very well-versed on the subject! sonification does indeed interest me, i didn't however find the time to investigate it more thouroughly so far. hope this discussion helps to get me started digging deeper...(it allready did, i guess) a few tidbits i'd still like to mention.... even if only for entertainment value >>... I recall >>hearing something about Aphex Twin using an image -> sound processor at >>some point? he reportedly used an image of himself transformed to sound with metasynth. metasynth (and on a less advanced level coagula) use fft resynthesis to turn bitmaps to sound there is also a cool small program (for pc) called bitmap & waves which has some different functions to coagula http://www.webcenter.ru/~vsoft/BitmapPlayer.htm not sure if you do not allready know this, but there is a "sonification report" at below link, think i got it from this list actually... >>The purpose of this paper is to provide an overview of sonification research, including the current status of the field and a >>proposed research agenda. This paper was prepared by an interdisciplinary group of researchers gathered at the request >>of the National Science Foundation in the fall of 1997 in association with the International Conference on Auditory Display (ICAD). http://www.icad.org/websiteV2.0/References/nsf.html concerning turning "raw" data into sound directly... back when i began making music with just a computer, without a lot of samples yet and not many softsynths around (vaz* 1.0 - those were the days) and me not yet into csound or pd (which i am a very newbie at still) i used to create a lot of sounds by opening any documents i found on my pc as .raw files in my soundetior. i found .exe files to be especially interesting... (turn down volume when trying, though!) only recently i found out that smartelectronix (www.smartelectronix.com) are running a competition where they ask to create tracks with the .dll files of their plugins converted to sound are the only source sounds allowed.... *actually one of the coolest sounding .exe's i ever abused that way, besides being a great noizebench.... a while back i tried this approach again and discovered that turning peak file information files, such as the *.gpk files wavelab writes or sonic foundry's *.sfk fomat give very interesting results, as their result often "mirrors" the sound it was created for... i do suppose that quite a few people in the microsound/electronica field have tried/are using this approach, and i'd be very interested if people have any ideas how to push this "lo-fi" approach further... personally i would think it might be very interesting to bring the "feedback-approach" into it... there have been experiments with sonifying people's brainwaves, playing the result back to them... i think this could be expanded to other fields (and probably has been)... an idea would be to analyse the movement of people dancing in a club/venue on various parametes (floor vibration, detectors that analyse the movement of different colours of the cloth, temperature, etc.) and have this modulate/trigger/musical events, so kindoff "the more people dance the wilder the music gets"... i guess i lot more has been answered by christopher's interesting post allready, so i shut up... peace, th_ost \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ th_ost: tomoroh hidari_oliver stummer alter & ego >>...this is an anagram of shit<< http://www.tomoroh.com/ http://www.stiege44.com/ http://www.skug.at/ --Boundary_(ID_dNBCCl2nUBqIzepcuWeQHw)-- From ???@??? Mon Jun 7 11:48:57 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30551-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.70]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 07 Jun 2004 07:48:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 07 Jun 2004 07:50:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 85408 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 07 Jun 2004 11:50:45 +0000 Received: (qmail 85395 invoked from network); Mon, 07 Jun 2004 11:50:44 +0000 Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2004 13:52:07 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Th=E9ophraste_Peeble?= <xxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Music on Ataris To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Th=E9ophraste_Peeble?= <xxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xx> Message-id: <002601c44c85$dbe07c20$xxxxxxxx@xxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Mailbox-Line: From xxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xx Mon Jun 07 13:50:14 2004 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <BCE9A4DB.16E%xxxxxxxx@xxx.xx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx No I don't... But did you hear about the Gameboyzz Orchestra project ? Check it : http://gameboyzz.terra.pl/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Jun 7 08:55:22 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30550-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.75]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 07 Jun 2004 04:55:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 07 Jun 2004 04:57:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 23151 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 07 Jun 2004 08:57:13 +0000 Received: (qmail 23141 invoked from network); Mon, 07 Jun 2004 08:57:13 +0000 Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2004 09:56:48 +0100 From: Alex Young <xxxx@xxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] data -> sound examples In-reply-to: <000001c44c64$50549ea0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.618) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <000001c44c64$50549ea0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx On 7 Jun 2004, at 08:51, Christopher Sorg wrote: > I'd be interested in continuing this discussion. I'd also like to hear > what people think about the notion of "sequential", "left-to-right", > "in-to-out", and how it affects our perceptions regarding this process. Whenever I consider these kind of techniques I often end up trying to work out how to convert moving images into sound in more abstract ways than merely converting pixel values. I remembered when I read this post that a friend of a friend is actually doing research on this. His research involves generating film scores automatically from the footage itself: http://www.mikesroom.org/index.php?proj=cbs&page=projectinfo This java applet and discussion are very useful and demonstrative of image to sound conversion in case anyone hasn't tried it before: http://www.visualprosthesis.com/javoice.htm -- homepage: http://alex.bash.sh music: http://noise.me.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Jun 7 08:50:14 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30549-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.75]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 07 Jun 2004 04:50:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 07 Jun 2004 04:51:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 21508 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 07 Jun 2004 08:52:03 +0000 Received: (qmail 21498 invoked from network); Mon, 07 Jun 2004 08:52:03 +0000 Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2004 04:51:39 -0400 From: Matthew <xxxxxxxx@xxx.xx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Music on Ataris In-reply-to: <000001c44c64$50549ea0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BCE9A4DB.16E%xxxxxxxx@xxx.xx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.0.0.040405 X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx Does anyone have any experience with music or sound on the old atari computers (particularly the 800xl, and the console-ish 2600). I heard about it somewhere, but I haven't had any luck finding programs or resources for it. -matt --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Jun 7 07:49:27 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30548-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta10.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta10.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.85]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 07 Jun 2004 03:49:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta10.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 07 Jun 2004 03:51:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 9715 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 07 Jun 2004 07:51:20 +0000 Received: (qmail 9702 invoked from network); Mon, 07 Jun 2004 07:51:19 +0000 Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2004 02:51:59 -0500 From: Christopher Sorg <xxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: RE: [microsound] data -> sound examples In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: 'microsound' <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <000001c44c64$50549ea0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.3416 Content-type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx > some point? Who else has traveled the "pure data" route? In the mid-90s, I worked on a few projects using NetPBM, which allows for the translation of bitmaps into raw, sequential text files. It's a fairly straightforward Unix program that uses pipes to go from format to format. At that time I primarily used it for image manipulation, i.e. pinhole camera photos->bitmaps->10'x10' ASCII images. At the same time, I was tooling around with a program for the Amiga call AudioMaster II (by Aegis), which has a neat feature that allows you to scan the entirety of the Amiga's memory and play it back as sound. I created one track with this technique, using the raw sound to create a feedback noise piece, aptly named "Digital Noise" (Two Man Psycho Jam, 1995). For the sake of this conversation, I've posted an mp3 of this up at http://www.csorg.org/audio.html. I started investigating this idea again in 1998-99, translating raw text and bitmaps into sound and vice versa using custom A/D hardware and software, and NetPBM, Photoshop and SoundForge. Programs like MetaSynth and Coagula tend to interpret or map images into "sensible" sound data, which isn't, IMHO, very much different from color organs in the late 19th and early 20th century. While the arbitrary assignation of color/image->sound can be a neat trick, the process isn't unique to a computer. What I have been particularly interested in is the idea that all data inside the computer is essentially the same, and that it just takes someone to "peel the skin", and peer inside, either with ears or eyes, or whatever senses we care to translate the switching of 1s and 0s into. I relate this activity to the descriptions of synesthetics in "The Man Who Tasted Shapes" by Richard Cytowic. Synesthetics seem to somehow be "listening in" on their limbic systems, cutting through the cerebral cortex for some genetic cross-modal associations. This cross-modal association is quite consistent for the individual, although there do not seem to be any consistencies from synesthete to synesthete. It appears to me that we pile on logical, interpretive interfaces to the raw data stream of the computer, drawing loose analogies to the limbic<->cerebral cortex relationship, as Cytowic describes it. To me, the most interesting thing about "data-bending" (as some have dubbed it) is letting the data speak for itself, trying to listen to the data stream with as little interference as possible. > "Data art" has been fashionable in net.art circles for a while now... > and Lev Manovich has started writing his "info-aesthetics" project... > but nobody much seems to be talking about the aesthetics of > data.sound > (correct me if I'm wrong)... I've found some interesting things about shape and form when translating between images and sound, and from there I can extrapolate some other ideas about data-bending. If you're used to working with raw data, it's a very logical process (but still sometimes difficult to predict). For instance, taking a raw, 16-bit, unsigned, 48kHz, -6db sine (or square) wave and converting it into an image will result in some sort of dark/light grey striped image (depending on how you format the pixels). Every two bytes (for 16-bit audio) is read in as a value, sequentially, creating the peaks and valleys of the sine or square wave. The louder the sound, the brighter and darker the values (greater dynamics = greater value range). Sines, ramps, and triangle waves produce gradients, while square waves produce more "posterized" images. Tighter striped images and grids tend to produce higher frequency sounds, while broad stripes result in lower frequencies. Rotating images 90 degrees changes sound drastically, as the data is read in sequentially, always from left to right, top to bottom. Of course, BMPs and some other image formats reverse this image reading process, so that may be another area to explore. In my work, sounds should be in separate channels to produce color images (sound1->R, sound2->G, sound3->B). Interpreting sound->image and image->sound in this way makes creating moving images quite sticky. Sound has a much lower data rate than video, so, at 16-bits and 48kHz, 3200 bytes of sound will translate into a 40x40 frame video image (if my math is correct this late at night). Let's see: 1 second of audio = 48000 samples 48000/30FPS = 1600 pixels (40x40, 16-bit) OR 3200 bytes Looks alright, I guess. Of course, reading an image or file from left to right seems a bit Western-biased and arbitrary as well, so I'm interested in that kind of thinking, which seems to dive into the core of how we have developed computers. We still read in images and sound sequentially, and sound data is still played back sequentially at the hardware level, regardless of how many Twerks, Herberts and Prefuses rearrange it internally. Most of my time in the past few years has been spent guiding and reinterpreting data streams in a variety of ways, trying to figure out the aesthetics of a pure, sequential data stream, what it will look like if it starts as sound, what it will sound like if it begins as image. Most data headers are noisy clicks, as are most data files that are non-repetitive in nature. I anticipate that text files are largely uninteresting because we use so little of the "dynamic range" of bits and bytes (ASCII typically runs from 32-123, and usually narrower than that), but I haven't thoroughly explored that. Of course, repeating (very) small chunks of data result in all sorts of interesting sounds that can be fruitful and rewarding both aurally and visually. I'd be interested in continuing this discussion. I'd also like to hear what people think about the notion of "sequential", "left-to-right", "in-to-out", and how it affects our perceptions regarding this process. > Thanks, > > Mitchell > http://www.ce.canberra.edu.au/staff/mitchellwhitelaw Great topic. Christopher ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Christopher Sorg Multimedia Artist/Instructor The School of the Art Institute of Chicago Columbia College Chicago http://www.csorg.org xxxxx@xxxxx.xxx ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.693 / Virus Database: 454 - Release Date: 5/31/2004 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Jun 7 06:01:46 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30547-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.67]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 07 Jun 2004 02:01:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 07 Jun 2004 02:03:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 88432 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 07 Jun 2004 06:03:38 +0000 Received: (qmail 88419 invoked from network); Mon, 07 Jun 2004 06:03:37 +0000 Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2004 16:03:31 +1000 From: Mitchell Whitelaw <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] data -> sound examples To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.618) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Jun 2004 06:04:12.0756 (UTC) FILETIME=[41787140:01C44C55] Some blatant brain-picking to go with the OS discussions... I'm doing some research on music and sound that (consciously or not) does "data sonification", turning non-sound data from whatever source, into sound/music. The recent microsound RNDTXT project is a great example; other people have posted about using unix to pipe data straight to the audio device... and there are a number of artists doing this kind of work (not all microsoundish), including Douglas Repetto, Andrea Polli, Bob Sturm, Mark Hansen / Ben Rubin (Listening Post), Jason Freeman (NAG - Gnutella Auraliser), and Andi Freeman's old Headbanger browser. Can you think of any more? I'm especially interested in works coming from a more microsound / experimental electronica angle... I recall hearing something about Aphex Twin using an image -> sound processor at some point? Who else has travelled the "pure data" route? "Data art" has been fashionable in net.art circles for a while now... and Lev Manovich has started writing his "info-aesthetics" project... but nobody much seems to be talking about the aesthetics of data.sound (correct me if I'm wrong)... Thanks, Mitchell http://www.ce.canberra.edu.au/staff/mitchellwhitelaw --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Jun 7 01:16:51 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30546-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.68]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 06 Jun 2004 21:16:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 06 Jun 2004 21:18:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 20664 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 07 Jun 2004 01:18:42 +0000 Received: (qmail 20654 invoked from network); Mon, 07 Jun 2004 01:18:42 +0000 Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2004 21:15:07 -0400 From: "tobias c. van Veen" <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] mutek moment/s [4]: recycled plastik In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> To: Microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Cc: xxxxxxx@xxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BCE939DB.12FC3%xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.4.030702.0 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx http://skylined.org/microsound/2004-06/msg00023.html Also: http://zed.cbc.ca/go.ZeD?POS=6&CONTENT_ID=140005&mediaSize=double&FILTER_KEY =45325&page=media-viewer - interview up soon at: http://www.zed.cbc.ca/mutek I'm writing this live from Mutek kids. I'll post a pic. best, tobias > what I want to know is, what is the COH/Chartier chess piece like ? > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > tobias c. van Veen ----------- http://www.quadrantcrossing.org http://www.thisistheonlyart.com ---McGill Communications------ ICQ: 18766209 | AIM: thesaibot --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Jun 7 01:06:34 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30545-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.72]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 06 Jun 2004 21:06:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 06 Jun 2004 21:08:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 17068 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 07 Jun 2004 01:08:25 +0000 Received: (qmail 17058 invoked from network); Mon, 07 Jun 2004 01:08:24 +0000 Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2004 21:08:16 -0400 From: xxxxxxx@xxx.xxx Subject: Re: [microsound] mutek moment/s [4]: recycled plastik To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (microsound) Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Atlas Mailer 2.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-AOL-IP: 212.30.6.10 X-AOL-Language: english X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx what I want to know is, what is the COH/Chartier chess piece like ? --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Jun 7 01:03:01 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30544-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.67]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 06 Jun 2004 21:03:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 06 Jun 2004 21:05:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 15644 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 07 Jun 2004 01:04:49 +0000 Received: (qmail 15634 invoked from network); Mon, 07 Jun 2004 01:04:49 +0000 Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2004 21:03:47 -0400 From: "tobias c. van Veen" <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] mutek moment/s [4]: recycled plastik To: Microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BCE93733.12FBC%xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.4.030702.0 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx [4] Recycled Plastik Rewind nine years, to a different time and era, a different location, when the event moved through monikers of a social mode. Plastikman Live, 1995, Transcendance. http://www.hyperreal.org/raves/spirit/technoshamanism/Plastikman_Live-Transc endance.html Date: Fri, 17 Nov 1995 08:16:12 -0500 (EST) From: Graydon Hoare <xxxxxxxx@xx.xxx> plastikman live: Been dancing up a storm all evening, trippin like crazy, looking into the eyes of everyone and seeing outrageous things, suddenly the music grows more intense, more intense, like these thick syrupy thuds and smacks growing faster and faster, it's the sound of the insides of a body making love, it's the sounds of a heartbeat roaring in my chest as I am jerked about by powers beyond my control, a gut feeling of all living things all over the world that only we humans have forgotten, it's strong, pounding, incredible with this slowly rising roaring howling sound, getting louder and louder and we stare into the lights which flash at us, seeing their intent, it ovewhelms us, there is only the deafening sound and energy now, every centimeter of skin in my body electrocuted in a state of insane radiant LIVING, each cell screaming at the top of it's lungs I DON'T WANT TO DIE I AM ALIVE and the roar grows louder and louder, I look at her face and say "WHAT IS HAPPENING?" and tears are running down my cheeks and hers too, we're holding on to one another for dear life, the music isn't even recognizable anymore and our bodies are buzzing too strong and loose to know what we're doing, suddenly we realize there is a jet aircraft in the room flying over us! it is here, pointing in our faces, it is the head of a monster dragon roaring at us how DARE we forget what we are? We are all, thousands of us, howling with it in recognition and our insides are coming out and everyone sees. The passion is so intense there is no room for identity or time or memory, it lasts forever and in all directions in an indescribable manner! everything is so visceral it's horrifying and ecstatic at the same time. And then the jet washes past and the noise screeches forwards and the crowd of all of us tear after it as the fastest drums the world have ever seen come back to kick us back into action, all holding hands and locking eyes now, all dancing and crying and smiling smiles which never occur in the normal world - smiles so alive and hungry that we know then it is all just beginning forever! It is so draining that occasionally our legs give way and we have to hold on to one another to stay up, catch our breaths a little or go to a room where water can be got, hard to find our way in the electric emotion of the place but we do. We are lighter than air, energy radiated from thehidden reactors modern life keeps on chill-mode all day. Hours later I am finding myself on a floor still awake with all of them lying down now and what world are we in? The sun is coming up, a fresh new day and my muscles are tingling, my head buzzing, my body draped over hers and hers over mine.... richie is such a fuckin' good musician. xoxograydon ++ 9 years past,=: On the right hand side, in front of the black speaker mass, a crew dropping the tabs for the 9 year reunion. They were there last time, in 1995, in a warehouse of sound, that Transcendance moment. Where were they now? (Trying to raise the dead memories of a time long passed into oblivion‹the specter that perhaps should be nailed shut in the coffin, as one ex-raver from Ottawa put it). Space return a year, to a DJ set of Richie Hawtin at Mutek that caught us all by surprise. I wrote of the return of Plastikman with the fervour of the religious follower who so desires to believe. Enthused by the energy that Mutek has managed to coalesce, Hawtin jumped to the fray of the performance scene a year later by setting the expectations as high as he could: Plastikman Live. As expectations were astronomical it follows that disappointment became impossible to defer in this tensile situation if not inevitable. For the record, Hawtin had two technical difficulties‹his earphones kept bugging out (which were fixed), and his visuals were not operating properly (or absent). Yet one felt that this new technological beast he had created, this jet plane of gear surrounding his wireframe identity on three sides, was not the agile bird of grace he so desired. A jumbo jet perhaps‹and one that could crash or land. Talking with Hawtin later, he mused on the metaphor of the experience of flying the music, a hand on the new controls of something almost foreign yet sounding so near, so close. It must be understood that Hawtin was playing an entirely new instrument, not only for the world¹s air traffic control, but for him. No autopilot in this [CTRL]. And taken into consideration, the task which Hawtin set himself‹of using a completely new system of technological devices, and of learning to pilot these devices in a live situation‹was nigh destined to encounter its own limitations. And it did. While the minimalist intensity of Hawtin¹s compositions were as strict as to be expected, the flightplan was unclear. Where were we going in this stratosphere of rumbled bass? Where had we been? And why? Beginning with a cut from Sheet One, moving through Concept material and Consumed, ³Are Friends Electric?² from Artifakts (BC), and a good dose of the tightness of kickdrum and percussion that began with DE9 and Closer to the Edit and that recently peaked in the Closer album, Hawtin served a sampling of in-flight snacks that never quite added up to a full meal. The kicker never kicked in on the Spastik close-out. It was close, closer, but not close enough. But was this not because we had already flown with stomachs expecting a 5 course repast past the burning twin towers of memory and loss? I have waited before writing on Plastikman¹s performance. For many it was the centrepiece of this year¹s Mutek if not a travel destination for entire contingents from the MidWest, the West Coast, Central Canada, the world at large.... And although originally left feeling empty‹and confirming this sense of loss with others around me who were relieved to find a sympathy of opinion‹I now feel that Hawtin¹s performance was an attempt, or as Philip Sherburne puts it in the Mutek catalogue, a ³proposition.² What Hawtin put forth was a vision of live performance that encompassed total art. While it did not approach the social context and element of fear and danger that were sustained with the series of events he aided in organising 10 years ago (Jak, Sickness/Recovery, etc.), it opened a vision of something to-come. It might not be continued by Hawtin, but it will be sampled and programmed, in another mode or moment, to reoccur with a new force‹and by necessity, through the rediscovery of anamolous context. For Hawtin¹s moment was tied to a historical force that has left the building, leaving only its echoes. Hawtin to the machine. His identity as the recast of the Thin White Duke leads to the question: Is Hawtin the new Bowie with his identity sequences or a cult of personality? Does the look speak louder than the sound? Either way, it is only with the deepest of bows and respect that any questions are posed, and it is only in light of the proposition set forth by Hawtin that we join him on his aerial journeys, head bent forward in the crash position, speaker-worshipping until the wheels touch on planets alien. - tobbias c. van Veen tobias c. van Veen ----------- http://www.quadrantcrossing.org http://www.thisistheonlyart.com ---McGill Communications------ ICQ: 18766209 | AIM: thesaibot --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Jun 6 23:05:52 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30543-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.69]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 06 Jun 2004 19:05:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 06 Jun 2004 19:07:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 90890 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 06 Jun 2004 23:07:40 +0000 Received: (qmail 90880 invoked from network); Sun, 06 Jun 2004 23:07:40 +0000 Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2004 19:07:36 -0400 From: precursor <xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Cyclin 74' radial (OT) In-reply-to: <001201c44bfe$f304a200$xxxxxxxx@xxxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BCE91BF8.1F32%xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.0.6 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx if anyone is interested in buying my copy of Radial please email me off-list.. thanks. xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Jun 6 19:44:23 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30542-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.75]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 06 Jun 2004 15:44:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 06 Jun 2004 15:46:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 40262 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 06 Jun 2004 19:46:13 +0000 Received: (qmail 40252 invoked from network); Sun, 06 Jun 2004 19:46:12 +0000 Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2004 21:46:23 +0200 From: uzekt <xxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] < Pour les oiseaux > Palais des Beaux-Arts de Lille To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <001201c44bfe$f304a200$xxxxxxxx@xxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_y5SxOfowXv1pF+s7GId6rQ)" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_y5SxOfowXv1pF+s7GId6rQ) Content-Type: text/plain; Charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit < Pour les oiseaux > Palais des Beaux-Arts de Lille 4 juillet 2004 DIMANCHE 4 JUILLET 2004 POUR LES OISEAUX Palais des Beaux-Arts - TERRASSE LILLE - FRANCE DE 15H00 A 22H00 ENTREE GRATUITE LIVE : POLE, SI-CUT.DB, JONAS BERING, PHILIPPE CAM, BERN, TEZ MISE EN SON : très haute défi nition garantie par un dispositif d'enceintes acoustiques modulaires. POSTAIR vous invite à la terrasse du Palais des Beaux-Arts pour un parcours des sens avec 6 concerts de musique électronique ambiante et une installation architecturale imaginée par STEL, jeune architecte en devenir. ACCÈS AU Palais des Beaux-Arts : En métro : ligne 1 - station République/Beaux-Arts. En voiture : suivre direction « Lille centre », Parking sous-terrain Place de la République. Personnes à mobilité réduite : accès par le boulevard de la Liberté En cas de mauvaises conditions météorologiques, les concerts se dérouleront à l'intérieur du Palais des Beaux-Arts de Lille (Auditorium). L'accès à la terrasse s'effectue par l'intérieur du Palais des Beaux-Arts. Ce jour là, la visite du musée est gratuite pour tous. + d'infos sur : www.postair.net --Boundary_(ID_y5SxOfowXv1pF+s7GId6rQ)-- From ???@??? Sun Jun 6 19:21:46 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30541-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.67]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 06 Jun 2004 15:21:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 06 Jun 2004 15:23:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 33048 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 06 Jun 2004 19:23:34 +0000 Received: (qmail 33037 invoked from network); Sun, 06 Jun 2004 19:23:33 +0000 Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2004 15:23:25 -0400 From: precursor <xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Cyclin'74 Radial (OT) In-reply-to: <001801c44bd8$c1195ae0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx.xxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BCE8E76D.1F24%xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.0.6 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx hi folks , sorry for the off-topic post, but im selling my copy of Radial..fully transferable license.if anyone's interested give me a shout.. thanks --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Jun 6 16:27:36 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30540-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.69]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 06 Jun 2004 12:27:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 06 Jun 2004 12:29:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 91210 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 06 Jun 2004 16:29:24 +0000 Received: (qmail 91200 invoked from network); Sun, 06 Jun 2004 16:29:24 +0000 Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2004 17:35:17 +0100 From: B <x@xxxxxx-xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] FUTURE REMIX GETS MESSED-UP AND BROKEN In-reply-to: <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx-xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.618) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx-xxxxx.xxx> <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx Dear Phil I'm sorry about that. Lesson learnt. B On Jun 6, 2004, at 5:26 PM, Phil Thomson wrote: > [snip] > >> http://www.centibel.org >> >> Messed-up and Broken (2003) is an album-length project and is >> available for free MP3 download from the Toronto-based net label >> Centibel. > > [snip] > > I'm Vancouver-based, actually. There *are* cities in Canada aside from > Toronto, ya know! ;0) Most of them don't even have igloos anymore! :-) > > Canuckically Yours, > > Phil > > > > ========= > Phil Thomson > home: http://www.sfu.ca/~pthomson > label: http://centibel.org/ > group: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/databenders/ > ========= > > SDF Public Access UNIX System > http://www.freeshell.org/ > Geekier than you since 1987. > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Jun 6 16:25:03 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30539-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.67]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 06 Jun 2004 12:25:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 06 Jun 2004 12:27:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 89958 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 06 Jun 2004 16:26:51 +0000 Received: (qmail 89948 invoked from network); Sun, 06 Jun 2004 16:26:50 +0000 Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2004 16:26:45 +0000 (UTC) From: Phil Thomson <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] FUTURE REMIX GETS MESSED-UP AND BROKEN In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx-xxxxx.xxx> X-X-Sender: xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx-xxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx [snip] > http://www.centibel.org > > Messed-up and Broken (2003) is an album-length project and is available for > free MP3 download from the Toronto-based net label Centibel. [snip] I'm Vancouver-based, actually. There *are* cities in Canada aside from Toronto, ya know! ;0) Most of them don't even have igloos anymore! :-) Canuckically Yours, Phil ========= Phil Thomson home: http://www.sfu.ca/~pthomson label: http://centibel.org/ group: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/databenders/ ========= SDF Public Access UNIX System http://www.freeshell.org/ Geekier than you since 1987. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Jun 6 15:35:46 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30538-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta10.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta10.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.85]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 06 Jun 2004 11:35:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta10.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 06 Jun 2004 11:37:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 76099 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 06 Jun 2004 15:37:34 +0000 Received: (qmail 76088 invoked from network); Sun, 06 Jun 2004 15:37:34 +0000 Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2004 15:37:32 +0000 From: xx cccc <xxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] info : ANGSTPROD LP02 Samforce- La Societe de l'esprit free release X-Originating-IP: [62.147.128.17] X-Sender: xxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Bcc: Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Originating-Email: [xxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Jun 2004 15:37:32.0811 (UTC) FILETIME=[2F1685B0:01C44BDC] Hi, SamForce first album, La Société de l'Esprit is free download on http://www.angstprod.com - 13 electro exprimental tracks. - 2 formats available : Ogg (80 Mo) and CD Audio image (550 Mo). http://www.angstprod.com/Label _________________________________________________________________ MSN Messenger http://g.msn.fr/FR1001/866 : dialoguez en direct et gratuitement avec vos amis ! --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Jun 6 15:14:14 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30537-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.69]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 06 Jun 2004 11:14:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 06 Jun 2004 11:16:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 71734 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 06 Jun 2004 15:16:02 +0000 Received: (qmail 71724 invoked from network); Sun, 06 Jun 2004 15:16:02 +0000 Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2004 11:12:59 -0400 From: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx Subject: [microsound] never pet a burning radio... To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <001801c44bd8$c1195ae0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx.xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx-xxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx ADVERTISEMENT [delete] [sssssrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrreeeeeeeeeeeeeeee bot the xpostng] will soderberg whfr live radio appearance this sunday (today) 6 june 2oo4 somewhere during the 2-4 pm (eastern) show "brain ticket death" whfr.fm 89.3 dearborn, mi -to listen online http://www.whfr.fm sexploring ther icians and soukers. plllecaying uer vaer a he friourafters. gnarlcrudes guisndes mieen lichigan lap, guog-stitar anious cectrod maknics tptoo conwill nt jure up boll be une rad varttly, ing souut nds of ghont i sodl guiterberg aning lotf rackee ohas bmits of soighund anic for ovld.aeldecade. oishn the wising a elecd mustro, pars ot of er evolvn theing, eclend mactic cotive of mu -analyle -- wian evth ocsionastsar/laptop eering toet, h ===== http://www.existentialista.com/~uforika/ (mp3s) http://white-rose.net/sounds.html (discography/real media) http://white-rose.net/shows.shtml (recent & upcoming shows) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Jun 6 14:38:50 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30536-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.70]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 06 Jun 2004 10:38:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 06 Jun 2004 10:40:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 62175 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 06 Jun 2004 14:40:37 +0000 Received: (qmail 62165 invoked from network); Sun, 06 Jun 2004 14:40:37 +0000 Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2004 14:40:36 +0000 From: ian stewart <xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] London concert X-Originating-IP: [194.82.116.4] X-Sender: xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Bcc: Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Originating-Email: [xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Jun 2004 14:40:36.0918 (UTC) FILETIME=[3B0E9D60:01C44BD4] An electroacoustic concert in London- Denis Smalley- Resounding (London premiere) Denis Smalley- Ringing Down the Sun Apostolis Loufopoulos- Night Pulses Thursday June 10, 6pm, and repeated at 7pm City U Music Dept, Performance Area College Building (St John St, just south of Spencer) EC1V £5/£2.50 It will sell out, so you'll need to reserve tickets by phone in advance: 020 7040 8284 / 8097 If anyone on-list is planning to come, drop me a line and we can meet up- we'll be going to a pub after the concert. best, Ian _________________________________________________________________ It's fast, it's easy and it's free. 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Sun Jun 6 14:18:57 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30535-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.70]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 06 Jun 2004 10:18:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 06 Jun 2004 10:20:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 57908 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 06 Jun 2004 14:20:44 +0000 Received: (qmail 57898 invoked from network); Sun, 06 Jun 2004 14:20:44 +0000 Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2004 10:20:42 -0400 From: Michal Seta <xxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Mac vs PC (linux information) In-reply-to: <xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxx.xx-x-xxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.2.93 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Lines: 18 References: <xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx "Tirriddiliu ." <xxxx_xxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> writes: > Relative importance... > I'd like to find something with a wide number of effects and > processings like soundforge, that supports previewing and with a > practical copy/cut/paste tool. Perhaps this one? http://www.metadecks.org/software/sweep/index.html -- _ __ __ (_)___ Michal Seta / \/ \ _/^ _| / V |_ \ @creazone.32k.org (___/V\___|_|___/ http://www.[creazone]|[noonereceiving].32k.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Jun 6 13:34:30 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30534-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.69]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 06 Jun 2004 09:34:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 06 Jun 2004 09:36:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 50894 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 06 Jun 2004 13:36:18 +0000 Received: (qmail 50884 invoked from network); Sun, 06 Jun 2004 13:36:17 +0000 Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2004 14:42:14 +0100 From: B <x@xxxxxx-xxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] FUTURE REMIX GETS MESSED-UP AND BROKEN To: Microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx-xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.618) Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_Hd+IjWxRKhUzO1VkwFq3Bw)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_Hd+IjWxRKhUzO1VkwFq3Bw) Content-Type: text/plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit FUTURE REMIX GETS MESSED-UP AND BROKEN Download the new release by Future Remix at the Centibel net label: http://www.centibel.org Messed-up and Broken (2003) is an album-length project and is available for free MP3 download from the Toronto-based net label Centibel. All the cuts for Messed-up and Broken are based on sounds of Berlin skateboarders who I found one night doing tricks near the zoo. I also got some samples in a Berlin skateboard park - mostly of my ex-girlfriend's brother doing tricks in a half-pipe. It was a fucking awesome sound. Special thanx to Phil Thomson of Centibel for his support. Get it nailed - and then anything goes when you're skating through noise. Pushed to the edge of industrial grindcore. It's noise wreckage with a hardmix connection. Loud and hard - then broken and mixed. Keep it real - and don't lose sight of what needs to be done. 01 Trick One - Ghost Skaters (10.01) 02 Trick Two - Edge Wreckage (10.00) 03 Trick Three - Half Pipe (09.56) 04 Trick Four - Grind Core (10.00) 05 Trick Five- Noise Scratch (15.00) Future Remix http://www.future-remix.com/messed-up.and.broken.html Check out these other Future Remix releases: Everything Goes Empty Retinascan http://www.retinascan.de/ Underground Sub Mix Neverkink http://structuredsound.net/neverkink/ Future Remix is mutant techno mantra and urban industrial noise merge. Everything's getting very mixed up. http://www.future-remix.com xxxx@xxxxxx-xxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_Hd+IjWxRKhUzO1VkwFq3Bw)-- From ???@??? Sun Jun 6 12:11:14 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30533-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.78]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 06 Jun 2004 08:11:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 06 Jun 2004 08:13:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 35939 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 06 Jun 2004 12:13:02 +0000 Received: (qmail 35929 invoked from network); Sun, 06 Jun 2004 12:13:02 +0000 Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2004 22:12:56 +1000 From: shannon o'neill <xxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] [Sydney] Terre Thaemlitz Lecture at UTS, Wednesday June 9 To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <x.x.x.x.x.xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.1.0.6 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx TERRE THAEMLITZ LECTURE AT UTS 2pm, Wednesday June 9 Lecture Theatre 3.510 Level 5, Building 3 ('Bon Marche', cnr Harris St & Broadway) University of Technology, Sydney Free - All welcome! Terre Thaemlitz (USA/Japan) is an award winning multi-media producer, writer, public speaker, educator, audio remixer, DJ and owner of the Comatonse Recordings record label. For the better part of a decade, Terre Thaemlitz has been at the beating heart of electro-acoustic and computer based musics, completing a role as one of the central figures of the ambient scene of the mid-nineties. His work critically combines themes of identity politics - including gender, sexuality, class, linguistics, ethnicity and race - with an ongoing critique of the socio-economics of commercial media production. This diversity of themes is matched by Thaemlitz' wide range of production styles, which include electroacoustic computer music, club oriented deep house, digital jazz, ambient, and computer composed neo-expressionist piano solos. As a speaker and educator on issues of non-essentialist transgenderism and Queer theory, Thaemlitz has participated in panel discussions throughout Europe and Japan, as well as held numerous cross-cultural sensitivity workshops at Tokyo's Uplink Factory, near his current residence in Kawasaki, Japan. At UTS, Terre Thaemlitz will be speaking on the subject of gender and sexuality in contemporary electronic music: The concern of how to increase the number of women and transgendered people producing electronic music is like the question of how to increase women-produced pornography... there are some cultural spheres in which 'equal representation' will never exist on a material level, and acknowledging this is not conceding to defeat. Within such a tangential and specialized field as Computer Music, is there a cultural need for more women and transgendered producers? Does academia and the music marketplace's liberal-minded need to 'include' and 'represent' such producers inspire or tokenize our activities? What practices have we developed outside of academia and the music marketplace? Given that most gender discussions are dominated by 'women's issues,' and that strategies of gender representation vastly differ between women and transgendered people, what aliances and frictions exist between women and transgendered producers? How is Computer Music a suitable medium for discussing any of these questions in the first place? Presented by Media Arts and Production, Faculty of Humanities & Social Sciences, UTS. Terre Thaemlitz is in Australia to present his Lovebomb performance. Tour Dates: Thursday June 10 - Disorientation - Sydney Saturday June 12 - Fabrique, Brisbane Powerhouse - Brisbane Friday June 18 - Kaleide Theatre, RMIT Melbourne Award winning multi-media producer, theorist, public speaker, educator and DJ Terre Thaemlitz will debut Lovebomb - his latest multimedia performance work and released on Mille Plateaux in Australia this month. Starting with an introductory explanation of the main theme, the Lovebomb audio/video performance will conclude with audience questions and discussion. Sydney show: LOVEBOMB Thursday 10 June, 8pm. $10 donation. Lanfranchi's Memorial Discotheque 2/144 Cleveland St Chippendale, Sydney Supports: Pimmon, Donna Hewitt & Julian Knowles, Team Australia http://aliasfrequencies.org/disorientation/ Brisbane show: LOVEBOMB Saturday 12 June, 9.30pm Fabrique Spark Bar Brisbane Powerhouse Centre for the Live Arts 119 Lamington Street New Farm, Queensland http://www.room40.org/events Melbourne show: LOVEBOMB Friday 18 June, 7pm. Kaleide RMIT Union Theatre 360 Swanston Street, Melbourne Tickets: $15/$12 + bf. Pre-sales available from Synaesthesia. t. 03 9663 3551 A limited number of tickets will be available on the night. Supports: Antediluvian Rocking Horse with visuals by Emile Zile. http://www.liquidarchitecture.org.au --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Jun 6 06:54:47 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30532-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.70]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 06 Jun 2004 02:54:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 06 Jun 2004 02:56:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 81793 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 06 Jun 2004 06:56:40 +0000 Received: (qmail 81783 invoked from network); Sun, 06 Jun 2004 06:56:40 +0000 Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2004 15:56:32 +0900 (JST) From: midory_h <xxxxxx_x@xxxxx.xx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] re: Higher Tech ...? In-reply-to: <004301c44b51$7c0a23d0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-2022-jp Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx > http://kids.gakken.co.jp/kit/otona/vol09.html hi, i just got this "berliner-style" disk player a month ago. and what i can tell you now that this player needs very careful controlling technique. (especially for needle angle) so if you can't buld it delicately, the sound what you can record/play is full of noises as i did... but anyway, i think this player could be useful at least to see the relationship between the sound and vibration which is the real beginning of analog recording even though its sound level couldn't get at 8cm record like this<http://8-ban.com/whats_player/index.html> well,sorry this post is far from microsound... best, midori __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? http://bb.yahoo.co.jp/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Jun 6 05:13:45 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30531-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.75]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 06 Jun 2004 01:13:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 06 Jun 2004 01:15:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 64004 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 06 Jun 2004 05:15:37 +0000 Received: (qmail 63992 invoked from network); Sun, 06 Jun 2004 05:15:37 +0000 Date: Sat, 05 Jun 2004 22:15:36 -0700 From: Thad Biggerstaff <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] books (again) To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <002201c44b85$4d8b60d0$xxxxxxxx@xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 0423-2, 06/04/2004), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <R02010100-1034-C91914E0B71A11D8A6A8000A95DFA98C@[84.128.209.77]> <004301c44b51$7c0a23d0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> <001001c44b79$4ea1d050$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx> <000c01c44b80$3b1bef00$xxxxxxxx@xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx thanks for the suggestions, but from my hazey memory thats not clicking with what I thought I heard discussed. it was a couple books that have just been released, and were more artist/style/genre focussed. hmm. maybe i saw it on another list im on. oh well, if anyone else has suggestions id be obliged. -Thad ----- Original Message ----- From: "Noah Fields" <xxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxx> To: "microsound" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Sent: Saturday, June 05, 2004 9:54 PM Subject: Re: [microsound] books (again) > Thad, > > I am sure you have all of Curtis Roads stuff. If not, thats a big one. > Also perhaps Cook "Music Cognition and Comperized Sound", "Listening" > by Handel, and "The CSOUND BOOK" by Boulanger. > > Cheers, > > - noah > > > On Jun 6, 2004, at 12:39 AM, Thad Biggerstaff wrote: > > > i was a deep lurker and didnt pay enough attention at the time. what > > are > > some of the titles/authors of recent books that have been brought up > > and > > recommended on the list regarding experimental/microsound/electronic > > music. > > im filling a cart at Amazon and want to throw something interesting > > in... > > > > -Thad > > > > Thad Biggerstaff xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx > > > > "Not to forget, I 'museumize' myself; so that then I pay myself a visit > > and find me again in all the relics, to hand down memories from one > > to the other, like a genealogical tree, as if it were morning!" - > > Massimo > > Toniutti > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > website: http://www.microsound.org > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Jun 6 04:54:21 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30530-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.74]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 06 Jun 2004 00:54:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 06 Jun 2004 00:56:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 57121 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 06 Jun 2004 04:56:12 +0000 Received: (qmail 57111 invoked from network); Sun, 06 Jun 2004 04:56:11 +0000 Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2004 00:54:19 -0400 From: Noah Fields <xxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] books (again) In-reply-to: <000c01c44b80$3b1bef00$xxxxxxxx@xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.613) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <R02010100-1034-C91914E0B71A11D8A6A8000A95DFA98C@[84.128.209.77]> <004301c44b51$7c0a23d0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> <001001c44b79$4ea1d050$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx> <000c01c44b80$3b1bef00$xxxxxxxx@xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx Thad, I am sure you have all of Curtis Roads stuff. If not, thats a big one. Also perhaps Cook "Music Cognition and Comperized Sound", "Listening" by Handel, and "The CSOUND BOOK" by Boulanger. Cheers, - noah On Jun 6, 2004, at 12:39 AM, Thad Biggerstaff wrote: > i was a deep lurker and didnt pay enough attention at the time. what > are > some of the titles/authors of recent books that have been brought up > and > recommended on the list regarding experimental/microsound/electronic > music. > im filling a cart at Amazon and want to throw something interesting > in... > > -Thad > > Thad Biggerstaff xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx > > "Not to forget, I 'museumize' myself; so that then I pay myself a visit > and find me again in all the relics, to hand down memories from one > to the other, like a genealogical tree, as if it were morning!" - > Massimo > Toniutti > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Jun 6 04:37:27 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30529-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.69]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 06 Jun 2004 00:37:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 06 Jun 2004 00:39:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 53626 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 06 Jun 2004 04:39:19 +0000 Received: (qmail 53615 invoked from network); Sun, 06 Jun 2004 04:39:18 +0000 Date: Sat, 05 Jun 2004 21:39:17 -0700 From: Thad Biggerstaff <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] books (again) To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <000c01c44b80$3b1bef00$xxxxxxxx@xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 0423-2, 06/04/2004), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <R02010100-1034-C91914E0B71A11D8A6A8000A95DFA98C@[84.128.209.77]> <004301c44b51$7c0a23d0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> <001001c44b79$4ea1d050$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx i was a deep lurker and didnt pay enough attention at the time. what are some of the titles/authors of recent books that have been brought up and recommended on the list regarding experimental/microsound/electronic music. im filling a cart at Amazon and want to throw something interesting in... -Thad Thad Biggerstaff xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx "Not to forget, I 'museumize' myself; so that then I pay myself a visit and find me again in all the relics, to hand down memories from one to the other, like a genealogical tree, as if it were morning!" - Massimo Toniutti --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Jun 6 03:49:11 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30528-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.78]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 05 Jun 2004 23:49:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 05 Jun 2004 23:51:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 42903 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 06 Jun 2004 03:50:59 +0000 Received: (qmail 42892 invoked from network); Sun, 06 Jun 2004 03:50:59 +0000 Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2004 05:49:44 +0200 From: thost <xxxxxx@xxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] re: Higher Tech ...? To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <001001c44b79$4ea1d050$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx> Organization: miscatonic acoustics MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4910.0300 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_rpfVfqv8uRrHexrjtf73qQ)" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Authenticated: #3048294 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <R02010100-1034-C91914E0B71A11D8A6A8000A95DFA98C@[84.128.209.77]> <004301c44b51$7c0a23d0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_rpfVfqv8uRrHexrjtf73qQ) Content-Type: text/plain; Charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > moving backwards into the future. !!!!!!!!!!!!! >>No please reply to the list. I am curious too >>Sune yes, me three! thanx, hidari ''' >>...this is an anagram of shit<< http://www.tomoroh.com/ --Boundary_(ID_rpfVfqv8uRrHexrjtf73qQ)-- From ???@??? Sun Jun 6 00:39:07 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30527-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.69]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 05 Jun 2004 20:39:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 05 Jun 2004 20:40:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 1445 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 06 Jun 2004 00:40:53 +0000 Received: (qmail 1413 invoked from network); Sun, 06 Jun 2004 00:40:53 +0000 Date: Sat, 05 Jun 2004 17:40:49 -0700 (PDT) From: svin <xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] any recomedations for tonight at Washington DC? In-reply-to: <006a01c44b5b$c661c5a0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx> To: xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx, xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx, xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx RESPECT TO ALL thanks __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Yahoo! 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Sat Jun 5 23:02:59 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30526-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.42]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 05 Jun 2004 19:02:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 05 Jun 2004 19:04:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 82327 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 05 Jun 2004 23:04:49 +0000 Received: (qmail 82316 invoked from network); Sat, 05 Jun 2004 23:04:48 +0000 Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2004 01:04:33 +0200 From: "Sune T. B. Nielsen" <xxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] re: Higher Tech ...? To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <004301c44b51$7c0a23d0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <R02010100-1034-C91914E0B71A11D8A6A8000A95DFA98C@[84.128.209.77]> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx ----- Original Message ----- From: "stephan mathieu" <xxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> To: "microsound" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Sent: Saturday, June 05, 2004 8:04 PM Subject: [microsound] re: Higher Tech ...? -- > a Berliner style phonograph that records on CD-R blanks, > using a paper cup as a horn... > http://kids.gakken.co.jp/kit/otona/vol09.html > and > .... an Edison style that records onto plastic cups like a cylinder! > http://kids.gakken.co.jp/kit/otona/vol01.html > moving backwards into the future. -- >hi phil >thanks for posting that! >i'm currently having my lessons in wax cylinder recordings but these machines look very interessting, >too. >maybe a japanese list member could give me some more details? >if so, please reply to mathieu[at]bitsteam.de No please reply to the list. I am curious too Sune --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Jun 5 18:21:49 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30525-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.70]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 05 Jun 2004 14:21:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 05 Jun 2004 14:23:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 13364 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 05 Jun 2004 18:23:38 +0000 Received: (qmail 13350 invoked from network); Sat, 05 Jun 2004 18:23:37 +0000 Date: Sat, 05 Jun 2004 11:23:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Dale Lloyd <xxxxx@xxx-xxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Regarding future and/OAR updates To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_RJ3KrtwKfq8ZYHMS1KXXkQ)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_RJ3KrtwKfq8ZYHMS1KXXkQ) Content-Type: text/plain; Charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello everyone. I just wanted to mention that instead of posting regular updates to this and other list groups, I will try to send regular subscription newsletters to anyone who would be interested in recieving them, as well as to customers, label artists, and other friends. Some of you here already have been receiving them, so there's no need to confirm your subscription. However, I do plan to continue to occasionally post very brief notices about new releases that are pertinent to each particular list group. But this won't happen very often. The newsletter will include all and/OAR release updates, distribution catalog updates (which currently includes an ever changing array of releases from labels like Fringes, softl music, s'agita recordings, Korm Plastics, Bake Records, Ground Fault, Mystery Sea, etc, with many more to come), and/OAR artist event information (so people will know when an artist is coming to a particular area), plus other various assorted information. And I'm open to suggestions as to what else to include in the newsletter, as long as it pertains directly to the label and its roster of artists. To subscribe, reply to this e-mail (OFFLIST) ;-) with "subscribe" in the subject header. To unsubscribe, just send one with "unsubscribe" or "remove" in the subject header. Thanks very much for your time, Dale Dale Lloyd: http://www.and-oar.org/dalelloyd.html and/OAR: http://www.and-oar.org/ --Boundary_(ID_RJ3KrtwKfq8ZYHMS1KXXkQ)-- From ???@??? Sat Jun 5 18:02:38 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30524-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.67]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 05 Jun 2004 14:02:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 05 Jun 2004 14:04:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 8054 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 05 Jun 2004 18:04:27 +0000 Received: (qmail 8044 invoked from network); Sat, 05 Jun 2004 18:04:27 +0000 Date: Sat, 05 Jun 2004 20:04:27 +0200 From: stephan mathieu <xxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] re: Higher Tech ...? In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <R02010100-1034-C91914E0B71A11D8A6A8000A95DFA98C@[84.128.209.77]> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mailsmith 2.1.1 (Blindsider) Demo Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx -- > a Berliner style phonograph that records on CD-R blanks, > using a paper cup as a horn... > http://kids.gakken.co.jp/kit/otona/vol09.html > and > .... an Edison style that records onto plastic cups like a cylinder! > http://kids.gakken.co.jp/kit/otona/vol01.html > moving backwards into the future. -- hi phil thanks for posting that! i'm currently having my lessons in wax cylinder recordings but these machines look very interessting, too. maybe a japanese list member could give me some more details? if so, please reply to mathieu[at]bitsteam.de best wishes - stephan |--- -- | --- | - -| || bitsteam. www.bitsteam.de --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Jun 5 13:47:56 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30523-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.72]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 05 Jun 2004 09:47:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 05 Jun 2004 09:49:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 45736 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 05 Jun 2004 13:49:44 +0000 Received: (qmail 45726 invoked from network); Sat, 05 Jun 2004 13:49:44 +0000 Date: Sat, 05 Jun 2004 15:49:43 +0200 From: "Tirriddiliu ." <xxxx_xxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Mac vs PC (linux information) X-Originating-IP: [81.211.248.18] X-Sender: xxxx_xxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Bcc: Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Originating-Email: [xxxx_xxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Jun 2004 13:49:44.0043 (UTC) FILETIME=[F4FD1BB0:01C44B03] Sorry... I thought my signature would have been put at the end of the message. >From: "Tirriddiliu ." <xxxx_xxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> >Reply-To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> >To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >Subject: Re: [microsound] Mac vs PC (linux information) >Date: Sat, 05 Jun 2004 15:46:40 +0200 > > > >Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not >sure about the former. >Albert Einstein. > >http://tirriddiliu.net > _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Jun 5 13:44:55 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30522-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.42]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 05 Jun 2004 09:44:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 05 Jun 2004 09:46:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 43656 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 05 Jun 2004 13:46:41 +0000 Received: (qmail 43646 invoked from network); Sat, 05 Jun 2004 13:46:41 +0000 Date: Sat, 05 Jun 2004 15:46:40 +0200 From: "Tirriddiliu ." <xxxx_xxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Mac vs PC (linux information) X-Originating-IP: [81.211.248.18] X-Sender: xxxx_xxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Bcc: Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Originating-Email: [xxxx_xxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Jun 2004 13:46:40.0578 (UTC) FILETIME=[87A29220:01C44B03] Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. Albert Einstein. http://tirriddiliu.net >From: derek holzer <xxxxx@x-x.xxx> >Reply-To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> >To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> >Subject: Re: [microsound] Mac vs PC (linux information) >Date: Sat, 05 Jun 2004 14:41:43 +0200 > >Tirriddiliu . wrote: > >>I'd say my Linux knowledge is somewhat minimal, really... >>Can I rely on your help if I'll find any problem ? > >There's me, and then there's the Linux Audio Users' list, which operates >24-7. I can't claim to keep those kinds of hours ;-) > >http://www.linuxdj.com/audio/lad/subscribelau.php3 > >d. Thanks! : ) > >-- >derek holzer ::: http://www.umatic.nl >---Oblique Strategy # 47: >"Discover the recipes you are using and abandon them" > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >website: http://www.microsound.org > _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Jun 5 12:38:05 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30521-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta10.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta10.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.85]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 05 Jun 2004 08:38:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta10.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 05 Jun 2004 08:39:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 34455 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 05 Jun 2004 12:39:54 +0000 Received: (qmail 34443 invoked from network); Sat, 05 Jun 2004 12:39:53 +0000 Date: Sat, 05 Jun 2004 14:41:43 +0200 From: derek holzer <xxxxx@x-x.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Mac vs PC (linux information) In-reply-to: <xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxx@x-x.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040127 X-Enigmail-Version: 0.83.0.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx Tirriddiliu . wrote: > I'd say my Linux knowledge is somewhat minimal, really... > Can I rely on your help if I'll find any problem ? There's me, and then there's the Linux Audio Users' list, which operates 24-7. I can't claim to keep those kinds of hours ;-) http://www.linuxdj.com/audio/lad/subscribelau.php3 d. -- derek holzer ::: http://www.umatic.nl ---Oblique Strategy # 47: "Discover the recipes you are using and abandon them" --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Jun 5 12:21:49 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30520-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.42]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 05 Jun 2004 08:21:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 05 Jun 2004 08:23:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 31794 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 05 Jun 2004 12:23:37 +0000 Received: (qmail 31784 invoked from network); Sat, 05 Jun 2004 12:23:37 +0000 Date: Sat, 05 Jun 2004 05:23:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Curtis Cousins <xxxxxx_xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] remixers wanted ! In-reply-to: <002a01c44ae5$f0c19080$xxxxxxxx@xxxx.xx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>, =?UNKNOWN?Q?Th=E9ophraste=5FPeeble?= <xxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_OfcJaCG9WcJP7LGzHUxASA)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_OfcJaCG9WcJP7LGzHUxASA) Content-Type: text/plain; Charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit i checked out the website last night. I will submit a remix soon. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Yahoo! Messenger --Boundary_(ID_OfcJaCG9WcJP7LGzHUxASA)-- From ???@??? Sat Jun 5 12:19:22 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30519-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.69]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 05 Jun 2004 08:19:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 05 Jun 2004 08:21:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 30741 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 05 Jun 2004 12:21:09 +0000 Received: (qmail 30731 invoked from network); Sat, 05 Jun 2004 12:21:09 +0000 Date: Sat, 05 Jun 2004 14:21:08 +0200 From: "Tirriddiliu ." <xxxx_xxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Mac vs PC (linux information) X-Originating-IP: [81.211.252.153] X-Sender: xxxx_xxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Bcc: Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Originating-Email: [xxxx_xxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Jun 2004 12:21:09.0278 (UTC) FILETIME=[952453E0:01C44AF7] >From: derek holzer <xxxxx@x-x.xxx> >Reply-To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> >To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> >Subject: Re: [microsound] Mac vs PC (linux information) >Date: Sat, 05 Jun 2004 13:37:15 +0200 > >Tirriddiliu . wrote: > >>But, unfortunately, I still make music using windows since most of my work >>is made in a wave-editor, SoundForge, and I couldn't really find anything >>good as SF on Linux. >>I think the best I found is Rezound: http://rezound.sourceforge.net/ >>But this is more a problem connected to my composition approach. > >Depending on your needs, and how much a slick-looking GUI is important to >you, Relative importance... I'd like to find something with a wide number of effects and processings like soundforge, that supports previewing and with a practical copy/cut/paste tool. >Snd might be interesting to check out. It is something like the "Emacs of >sound editors", and has lots of configuration customizations for everything >from appearence to functionality. A bit like a roll-your-own-editor, >actually. > >http://ccrma.stanford.edu/software/snd/snd/snd.html Thanks, I'll check it out. > >Linux audio author Dave Phillips has a two-part article comparing Snd and >CoolEdit here, for more info: > >http://www.linuxdevcenter.com/pub/a/linux/2001/10/05/snd_partone.html > >But if you don't want to spend the time to learn something new, and an app >which "looks like" SoundForge is what you are after, then probably Rezound >is your best bet. > >http://rezound.sourceforge.net/ To learn something new is always good. I tried Rezound, but I remember i felt better with soundforge. I'll check for new versions and I'll try it again though. > >Only problem is that the LADSPA effects aren't previewable in this app! You >have to render the effect first and then listen to it. I dislike this, so I >tend to run things in realtime through JackRack, which is a virtual effects >rack for LADSPA plugins, so I can hear what I am doing. > >http://arb.bash.sh/~rah/software/jack-rack/ That's good. I'll try to install this one and make it work. I hope it's simple because I'm everything but an expert. I'd say my Linux knowledge is somewhat minimal, really... Can I rely on your help if I'll find any problem ? Thanks again. Dario. > >best, >d. > > > >-- >derek holzer ::: http://www.umatic.nl >---Oblique Strategy # 95: >"Is something missing?" > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >website: http://www.microsound.org > _________________________________________________________________ Looking to buy a house? Get informed with the Home Buying Guide from MSN House & Home. http://coldwellbanker.msn.com/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Jun 5 11:33:38 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30518-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.67]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 05 Jun 2004 07:33:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 05 Jun 2004 07:35:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 23059 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 05 Jun 2004 11:35:26 +0000 Received: (qmail 23048 invoked from network); Sat, 05 Jun 2004 11:35:26 +0000 Date: Sat, 05 Jun 2004 13:37:15 +0200 From: derek holzer <xxxxx@x-x.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Mac vs PC (linux information) In-reply-to: <xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@x-x.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040127 X-Enigmail-Version: 0.83.0.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx Tirriddiliu . wrote: > But, unfortunately, I still make music using windows since most of my > work is made in a wave-editor, SoundForge, and I couldn't really find > anything good as SF on Linux. > I think the best I found is Rezound: http://rezound.sourceforge.net/ > But this is more a problem connected to my composition approach. Depending on your needs, and how much a slick-looking GUI is important to you, Snd might be interesting to check out. It is something like the "Emacs of sound editors", and has lots of configuration customizations for everything from appearence to functionality. A bit like a roll-your-own-editor, actually. http://ccrma.stanford.edu/software/snd/snd/snd.html Linux audio author Dave Phillips has a two-part article comparing Snd and CoolEdit here, for more info: http://www.linuxdevcenter.com/pub/a/linux/2001/10/05/snd_partone.html But if you don't want to spend the time to learn something new, and an app which "looks like" SoundForge is what you are after, then probably Rezound is your best bet. http://rezound.sourceforge.net/ Only problem is that the LADSPA effects aren't previewable in this app! You have to render the effect first and then listen to it. I dislike this, so I tend to run things in realtime through JackRack, which is a virtual effects rack for LADSPA plugins, so I can hear what I am doing. http://arb.bash.sh/~rah/software/jack-rack/ best, d. -- derek holzer ::: http://www.umatic.nl ---Oblique Strategy # 95: "Is something missing?" --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Jun 5 10:54:29 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30517-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.69]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 05 Jun 2004 06:54:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 05 Jun 2004 06:56:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 16267 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 05 Jun 2004 10:56:16 +0000 Received: (qmail 16257 invoked from network); Sat, 05 Jun 2004 10:56:16 +0000 Date: Sat, 05 Jun 2004 12:56:15 +0200 From: "Tirriddiliu ." <xxxx_xxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Mac vs PC (linux information) X-Originating-IP: [81.211.252.153] X-Sender: xxxx_xxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Bcc: Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Originating-Email: [xxxx_xxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Jun 2004 10:56:16.0098 (UTC) FILETIME=[B95EBC20:01C44AEB] >From: nathan d <xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> >Reply-To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> >To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> >Subject: Re: [microsound] Mac vs PC (linux information) >Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2004 19:59:09 -0700 > I'm a basic Debian user and I like this OS. But, unfortunately, I still make music using windows since most of my work is made in a wave-editor, SoundForge, and I couldn't really find anything good as SF on Linux. I think the best I found is Rezound: http://rezound.sourceforge.net/ But this is more a problem connected to my composition approach. I heard/knew about most of the projects/programs you mentioned below and I believe that other musicians, with different techniques, might find them good. Have you heard about LADSPA - Linux Audio Developer's Simple Plugin API ? http://www.ladspa.org/ Bye, Dario >i've been around for a few years, but don't often post. i had to say >something because there wasn't much mention of linux. since this is a "Vs" >thread, i was compelled to post something :) > >i thought i'd share abit of information, since it has grown to become my >favorite platform. > >linux is good. it runs on powerpc(mac hardware) and pc hardware. i can't >really recommend linux for audio to non programmers (unless ofcourse you >wish to become one). i guess im really writing to people who have an >interest in audio development and experimentation under linux, and are >looking for a place to start. > >i recommend to start with a standard distribution (slackware/debian) and do >some customization. > >http://www.slackware.org/ >http://www.debian.org/ > >i personally like to have multiple kernels bootable--for audio work try >linux 2.4.25 kernel with the low latency patch (i dont beleive the latency >patch is available for 2.4.26 at the moment). > >http://kernel.org/ >http://www.djcj.org/LAU/guide/Low_latency-Mini-HOWTO.php3 >http://www.gardena.net/benno/linux/audio/ > >as far as a sound system, get alsa. this is the standard for linux audio >these days, but there are still some kernels floating around that support >the older oss. alsa has oss compatibility so don't worry about old programs >written for oss not working. > >http://www.alsa-project.org/ > >apparently "jack" is neat as well, which provides a framework for >interconnection all audio applications that implement it--but i can't say >much since i have yet to play with it. jack is an audio server, which runs >on top of alsa. you program using the jack api rather then the alsa api, >and gain the benefits of jack. > >http://jackit.sourceforge.net/ >http://www.djcj.org/LAU/jack/ > >for a desktop windowing system, i prefer kde with the sound server turned >off and the gtk libraries install to support gtk applications. > >http://www.kde.org >http://www.gtk.org > >qt, kde's native windows library is free to use and develop for under >linux, but not free for commercial applications; therefor i can not >recommend kde for any development, as i beleive if you work hard on >something, you should be entitled to compensation for your work if you >desire it. qt is cross platform, but it is only free to use under linux and >bsd. > >gtk, the gnome desktop native libraries are not as elegant as qt, and are >abit rough imho. it is under the gpl license, which is a definite benefit >however; some people swear by gtk. > >for any interface development you undertake under linux, i recommend >wxwindows/wxwidget. > >http://www.wxwindows.org/ > >this framework is also designed to be cross platform, which means if you >plan your application right, and abstract the audio functions, you can >simply write your program, and implement a custom audio layer for linux, >mac, and windows, to have your application run on all operating systems. >wxwindows also is fast, unlike java, so you can do serious cross platform >audio work with it. its also under the gpl license. > >as far as audio software goes, your first stop is: >http://www.linux-sound.org/ > >you'll find alot that you'll need as far as software here. i recommend xmms >as an audio player (its like winamp). > >most of the programs here distributed as source code. i recommend audicity, >which is linux audio standard issue for editing. grab a copy of csound as >well for synthesis. this'll get you going for playing around with sound. >you just need to find a program to assemble and/or sequence your audio >things. i'm currently assembling in a tracker, then exporting each channel >for external audio processing and mixing. > >i bet someone can recommend some more interesting programs :) > >but there you have it. > >learn the alsa api, the c standard library, abit of c++, and the wxwindows >api, and you have a powerful platform for experimenting with and developing >sound applications. > >oh wait, if your doing on this fun stuff with linux, you might as well >setup your computer to broadcast internet radio streams eh? :) > >check out icecast! > >http://icecast.linuxpower.org <http://www.icecast.org/> >http://quasi.ksl.com/icecast/book1.html > >Well if you check this out, you should be setup for some powerful audio >work under linux for a total cost of hardware and simply your time to learn >all this software. > >And Linux does support decent hardware, the only things you need to watch >is your videocard (I recommend nvidia cards, as they provide linux >drivers). Alsa has support for alot of soundcards, including usb soundcards >and midi controllers! > >i have been working over the past few weeks putting together some software >utilizing a evolution/m-audio x-session (usb midi controller with 16 knobs, >a cross fader, and 10 buttons.). m-audio/evolution usb controllers work >under linux no problem. I don't know about the usb soundcards tho, check >the alsa page for more information on what cards are supported. > >just thought id share some information, because i don't think i could go >back to windows based pc, or even mac o/s 10. > >im trying to get a linux laptop based setup for live use in 2005. > >nathand > >> >>Linux is a good operating system. >>Developers are working on a distribution devoted to audio applications and >>multimedia development. >>The project is called AGNULA, acronym for «A GNU/Linux Audio >>distribution». >>Completely based on Free Software. >> >>Website: http://www.agnula.org/ >> >>Bye, >>Dario. >> >>_________________________________________________________________ >>MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* >>http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus >> >> >>--------------------------------------------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >>For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >>website: http://www.microsound.org >> >> > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >website: http://www.microsound.org > _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Jun 5 10:27:33 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30516-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.70]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 05 Jun 2004 06:27:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 05 Jun 2004 06:29:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 11470 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 05 Jun 2004 10:29:26 +0000 Received: (qmail 11460 invoked from network); Sat, 05 Jun 2004 10:29:25 +0000 Date: Sat, 05 Jun 2004 12:31:09 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Th=E9ophraste_Peeble?= <xxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] remixers wanted ! 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Sat Jun 5 10:11:18 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30515-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.75]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 05 Jun 2004 06:11:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 05 Jun 2004 06:12:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 8093 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 05 Jun 2004 10:13:10 +0000 Received: (qmail 8074 invoked from network); Sat, 05 Jun 2004 10:13:10 +0000 Date: Sat, 05 Jun 2004 12:14:51 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Th=E9ophraste_Peeble?= <xxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] remixers wanted ! To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Th=E9ophraste_Peeble?= <xxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xx> Message-id: <002a01c44ae5$f0c19080$xxxxxxxx@xxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Mailbox-Line: From xxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xx Sat Jun 05 12:13:00 2004 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <BCD95ADD.12A72%xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx I'm interested I'll try to send you a remix soon --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Jun 5 09:56:51 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30514-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta10.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta10.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.85]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 05 Jun 2004 05:56:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta10.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 05 Jun 2004 05:58:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 3796 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 05 Jun 2004 09:58:41 +0000 Received: (qmail 3786 invoked from network); Sat, 05 Jun 2004 09:58:41 +0000 Date: Sat, 05 Jun 2004 11:58:31 +0200 From: Malte Steiner <xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Mac vs PC (linux information) In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> Organization: block 4 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040514 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx Thanks Nathan for the information. Just to add: Debian installation might be tough for newbies so I recommand the Kanotix destribution (http://kanotix.com), a Knoppix based live system, which let you install a Debian system on harddisk if you like, easier then Knoppix. But anyway, if it comes to destributions we could really have flamewars like xx vs yy vs zz ... :) Cheers, Malte -- Malte Steiner media art + development -www.block4.com- unrequested news: new online release: http://www.stasisfield.com/releases/sf-3003.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Jun 5 06:18:33 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30513-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.67]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 05 Jun 2004 02:18:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 05 Jun 2004 02:20:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 66947 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 05 Jun 2004 06:20:24 +0000 Received: (qmail 66937 invoked from network); Sat, 05 Jun 2004 06:20:24 +0000 Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2004 23:24:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Wayne Jackson <xxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Electron Salon 8 To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx-xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx ELectron SAlon 8 on Friday, June 11, 8 p.m. Music and video artists perform in Santa Cruz Rio Theatre, 1205 Soquel Ave, Santa Cruz www.elsaproductions.com This music performance is a four-fold spectacle mixing Theatre, Songs, and Electronics. Visiting French artists Benjamin Hamon (composer) and Franck Mas (stage director and scenographer) will premiere excerpts of the multimedia pocket-opera 'The Empty Lot.' Matthew Embry presents his original vocal and piano compositions with a new blend of dark hilarity, emotive social commentary, and a Zappa-esque smart absurdity. Previously performing at Woodstockhausen 2003 and the 2004 Big Sur Experimental Music Festival, Nathan Levine and his theatre improvisation company "Purée" perform what might best be described as 'neo-Vaudevillian-Futurist-Dada', a series of short compositions both hilarious and musically pleasing. After her appearance at the Other Minds festival in 2003, and a series of performances in New York City, Amy X Neuburg comes back to Santa Cruz with her latest ^Ówildly tuneful compositions,^Ô for which she skilfully wields a set of electronic drums to loop and process her voice in real time, and accompany herself with multilayered rhythm and vocal tracks. DJ Vanick, from KZSC's Tuesday evening show 'French Connection', provides the SAlon's atmosphere. The ELectron SAlon #8 is supported by a grant of the Cultural Council of Santa Cruz County, by the SACD Beaumarchais, KZSC, La kitchen (Paris) and Cycling 74. Tickets info at http://www.elsaproductions.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Jun 5 06:10:40 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30512-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.74]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 05 Jun 2004 02:10:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 05 Jun 2004 02:12:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 65223 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 05 Jun 2004 06:12:29 +0000 Received: (qmail 65212 invoked from network); Sat, 05 Jun 2004 06:12:29 +0000 Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2004 22:15:41 -0700 From: nathan d <xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Mac vs PC In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@x-x.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.6b) Gecko/20031205 Thunderbird/0.4 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@x-x.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx hey, i didn't see this post. i'll have to check out some of that software. thx derek holzer wrote: > Malte Steiner wrote: > >> Installing Linux is a task on a laptop, it sometimes refuses several >> features like wifi or sleep mode. But anyway, the intel world getting >> better with the Centrinos so it will be different in a year, perhaps. > > > Linux plus an Athlon processor laptop is my recommendation. You get > more speed for the buck, and Athlons don't have this silly denormal > numbers problem [i.e. CPU useage skyrockets whan it has to process > floating point numbers which are extremely small, such as the values > of samples at the tail of a revrb... this is a problem for all P4 and > newer processors, also under windoze!] > http://www.agnula.org/ > I'd say that Mac laptops are alright, but I know too much about the > funny "hardware optimizations" which Mac does... things like putting > the exact same video card in the season's release of Powerbook and the > I-book, but crippling the firmware of the one in the Powerbook so that > you have to buy an I-book to get a second video out or accelerated > graphics or things like that. This kind of trickery doesn't really > make me too fond of a company's business strategy. > > Another distro I would recommend is Planet CCRMA [based on > http://www.agnula.org/Fedora, which is the new incarnation of Red > Hat]. Super fast installation and a very helpful user list. > > http://ccrma.stanford.edu/planetccrma/software/ > > If you are curious if the PC laptop you are about to buy is > Linux-compatible, you can always take a live CD such as Knoppix or > Dyne:bolic to the shop and try it out: > > http://www.dynebolic.org/ > >> Software: Pure Data / gem, free and available for several OS > > > Don't forget about PDP for video! Getting better all the time. > >> How far is Ardour, the opensource DAW? Anyone tested the current >> version yet? > > > I use Ardour quite a bit. In fact, I'm mixing a track in it right now. > I have to admit it still has some instability issues [noting that they > released an 0.9beta14 a few weeks ago, then almost immediately after > told everyone to downgrade back to beta11!] They are really working > their ass off to get to 1.0 status, so I am willing to accept some > bugs [sometimes!] and look forward to the release of the first totally > free alternative to ProTools this summer or fall. > > There's also FreqTweak, a Spectral Delay clone, and all the work > people have been doing with VSTserver to get all those VST plugins and > Native Instruments softsynths running under Linux as well! There's a > picture from the last Linux Audio conference of a guy from NI with > Kontakt running under Linux with VSTserver and Jack projected on the > wall behind him. Kontakt, Battery or Absynth ain't free or open source > by any stretch of the imagination, but if you already spent money on > the apps, and/or are too lazy to build them yourself in PD [doesn't > take that long once you get the hang of PD as a language] then it is > probably worthwhile to check out. > > Speaking of Jack, this has to be the real killer Linux sound app out > ther. Jack allows you to connect and route all the sound apps on your > system. Last but certainbly not least there's Jamin, which is a truely > sweet mastering tool. > > I have to admit my own personal bias towards Linux, simply because I > dropped windoze a year ago and spent all the time since learning, > using and teaching only free + open source software. So nothing could > get me to go back to m$. Although OSX looks interesting enough [I > would rather wear my mother's underpants than mess around with OS 9!], > and is in fact based on another free, Unix-type operating system > [FreeBSD], it just doesn't quite have everything in the right place > yet in order to be fully Unix compatible. In my experience, running a > lot of this free, Linux-world software on OSX takes more time and > trouble often than just running Linux ;-) But to each their own... > > best, > d. > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Jun 5 03:54:06 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30511-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.67]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 04 Jun 2004 23:54:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 04 Jun 2004 23:56:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 41126 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 05 Jun 2004 03:55:56 +0000 Received: (qmail 41116 invoked from network); Sat, 05 Jun 2004 03:55:56 +0000 Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2004 19:59:09 -0700 From: nathan d <xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Mac vs PC (linux information) In-reply-to: <xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.6b) Gecko/20031205 Thunderbird/0.4 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx i've been around for a few years, but don't often post. i had to say something because there wasn't much mention of linux. since this is a "Vs" thread, i was compelled to post something :) i thought i'd share abit of information, since it has grown to become my favorite platform. linux is good. it runs on powerpc(mac hardware) and pc hardware. i can't really recommend linux for audio to non programmers (unless ofcourse you wish to become one). i guess im really writing to people who have an interest in audio development and experimentation under linux, and are looking for a place to start. i recommend to start with a standard distribution (slackware/debian) and do some customization. http://www.slackware.org/ http://www.debian.org/ i personally like to have multiple kernels bootable--for audio work try linux 2.4.25 kernel with the low latency patch (i dont beleive the latency patch is available for 2.4.26 at the moment). http://kernel.org/ http://www.djcj.org/LAU/guide/Low_latency-Mini-HOWTO.php3 http://www.gardena.net/benno/linux/audio/ as far as a sound system, get alsa. this is the standard for linux audio these days, but there are still some kernels floating around that support the older oss. alsa has oss compatibility so don't worry about old programs written for oss not working. http://www.alsa-project.org/ apparently "jack" is neat as well, which provides a framework for interconnection all audio applications that implement it--but i can't say much since i have yet to play with it. jack is an audio server, which runs on top of alsa. you program using the jack api rather then the alsa api, and gain the benefits of jack. http://jackit.sourceforge.net/ http://www.djcj.org/LAU/jack/ for a desktop windowing system, i prefer kde with the sound server turned off and the gtk libraries install to support gtk applications. http://www.kde.org http://www.gtk.org qt, kde's native windows library is free to use and develop for under linux, but not free for commercial applications; therefor i can not recommend kde for any development, as i beleive if you work hard on something, you should be entitled to compensation for your work if you desire it. qt is cross platform, but it is only free to use under linux and bsd. gtk, the gnome desktop native libraries are not as elegant as qt, and are abit rough imho. it is under the gpl license, which is a definite benefit however; some people swear by gtk. for any interface development you undertake under linux, i recommend wxwindows/wxwidget. http://www.wxwindows.org/ this framework is also designed to be cross platform, which means if you plan your application right, and abstract the audio functions, you can simply write your program, and implement a custom audio layer for linux, mac, and windows, to have your application run on all operating systems. wxwindows also is fast, unlike java, so you can do serious cross platform audio work with it. its also under the gpl license. as far as audio software goes, your first stop is: http://www.linux-sound.org/ you'll find alot that you'll need as far as software here. i recommend xmms as an audio player (its like winamp). most of the programs here distributed as source code. i recommend audicity, which is linux audio standard issue for editing. grab a copy of csound as well for synthesis. this'll get you going for playing around with sound. you just need to find a program to assemble and/or sequence your audio things. i'm currently assembling in a tracker, then exporting each channel for external audio processing and mixing. i bet someone can recommend some more interesting programs :) but there you have it. learn the alsa api, the c standard library, abit of c++, and the wxwindows api, and you have a powerful platform for experimenting with and developing sound applications. oh wait, if your doing on this fun stuff with linux, you might as well setup your computer to broadcast internet radio streams eh? :) check out icecast! http://icecast.linuxpower.org <http://www.icecast.org/> http://quasi.ksl.com/icecast/book1.html Well if you check this out, you should be setup for some powerful audio work under linux for a total cost of hardware and simply your time to learn all this software. And Linux does support decent hardware, the only things you need to watch is your videocard (I recommend nvidia cards, as they provide linux drivers). Alsa has support for alot of soundcards, including usb soundcards and midi controllers! i have been working over the past few weeks putting together some software utilizing a evolution/m-audio x-session (usb midi controller with 16 knobs, a cross fader, and 10 buttons.). m-audio/evolution usb controllers work under linux no problem. I don't know about the usb soundcards tho, check the alsa page for more information on what cards are supported. just thought id share some information, because i don't think i could go back to windows based pc, or even mac o/s 10. im trying to get a linux laptop based setup for live use in 2005. nathand > > Linux is a good operating system. > Developers are working on a distribution devoted to audio applications > and multimedia development. > The project is called AGNULA, acronym for «A GNU/Linux Audio > distribution». > Completely based on Free Software. > > Website: http://www.agnula.org/ > > Bye, > Dario. > > _________________________________________________________________ > MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Jun 5 02:24:08 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30510-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.67]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 04 Jun 2004 22:24:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 04 Jun 2004 22:26:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 21929 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 05 Jun 2004 02:25:58 +0000 Received: (qmail 21919 invoked from network); Sat, 05 Jun 2004 02:25:58 +0000 Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2004 22:24:21 -0400 From: "tobias c. van Veen" <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] [3] Mutek Moments: End to End, Techno Again To: Microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BCE6A715.12F3D%xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.4.030702.0 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx [3] Mutek Moments: End to End, Techno Again ³... the creativity of the lawyers is stifling the creativity of the artists ... the world is turning upside down... ² Mark Quail, lawyer, Toronto . ³... this ugly lawyer bullshit is fucking boring..² Jason Forrest, aka Donna Summer. ³So let¹s talk about something else.² John Oswald ³Yah, like Œ70s rock!² Jason Forrest, aka Donna Summer. That was the end of the sampling panel. From here the usual amounts of sleep deprivation that stick to Mutek like vinyl to a hot ass begin to strip everyone of their mental capacity to comprehend basic logic. Set theory diminished with a rapid advance in all areas as passes ran amok in Burger Kings rampant with disjointed, singing men... what the fuck am I rambling about... here before Plastikman.., ears ringing still from the pounding hard techno. I must tell you of this: this pounding hard techno. Just yesterday I was saying: Mutek needs some pounding hard techno as well as pop. And they did it. The division was apparent and the response was immediate at this free cinq-a-sept. Lead on, brother, into the world of Mike Shannon and Jay Hunsberger, and the reappearance of Montreal¹s oldskool Marc Dumais. But also the incredibly energetic house of Daniel Gardner, aka Frivolous, who in a chef hat, rocked the piano chords‹live‹in a set that damn deserves the title‹live. Yah, people playing music, all over again, here at SAT. And people outside, well one at least, dressed in an orange Guantanamo jumpsuit, with the noiz-kart, playing the protest beats. Shopping cart, laptop and metal loudspeaker, why not? None other than Greyg Filastine of Post-World Industries and ex-!Tchkung! bandmate. Good to see some spontaneous noise, art and political force arriving in the staid Mutek crowd (and the response was good from all quarters). Tonight is Plastikman in this moderate weather and the expectations are high for the sound to eclipse our past deafness and to enter the sublime world of the meltdown. I desire it, I want it, I beg for it‹and if we don¹t get it, it will be a disappointed moment. But no doubt we will enjoy it. We will love it. It¹s all about losing it all over again. A few might be already tired of the acieed revival‹as the Editor of De:Bug tells me‹but here it hasn¹t hit yet and we are all seeking it. Why? Because no other genre has the alien 303. Bring it on. These notes should not be considered verbatim... there¹s more than one of us writing them now... falling apart at the seams... tobias c. van Veen ----------- http://www.quadrantcrossing.org http://www.thisistheonlyart.com ---McGill Communications------ ICQ: 18766209 | AIM: thesaibot --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? 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(fwd) X-X-Sender: xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2004 18:55:49 -0400 From: Kevin Austin Reply-To: cec-conference To: cec-conference Subject: Higher Tech ...? a Berliner style phonograph that records on CD-R blanks, using a paper cup as a horn... http://kids.gakken.co.jp/kit/otona/vol09.html and .... an Edison style that records onto plastic cups like a cylinder! http://kids.gakken.co.jp/kit/otona/vol01.html moving backwards into the future. 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Sat Jun 5 01:20:39 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30508-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.42]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 04 Jun 2004 21:20:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 04 Jun 2004 21:22:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 7537 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 05 Jun 2004 01:22:30 +0000 Received: (qmail 7527 invoked from network); Sat, 05 Jun 2004 01:22:29 +0000 Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2004 21:22:12 -0400 From: vze26m98 <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] [re: microsound list archive] In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx@xx.xxx.xxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mailsmith 1.1.6 (Bluto) Content-type: text/plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx On 6/5/04 at 2:23 AM, Luka Princic <xxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote: > maybe this comes handy to someone: > http://skylined.org/microsound/ > freshly built, expect google result in about four weeks. Nicely done, Luka! <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Jun 5 01:16:17 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30507-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.74]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 04 Jun 2004 21:16:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 04 Jun 2004 21:18:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 5185 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 05 Jun 2004 01:18:07 +0000 Received: (qmail 5175 invoked from network); Sat, 05 Jun 2004 01:18:06 +0000 Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2004 21:18:40 -0400 From: vze26m98 <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Archives In-reply-to: <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx@xx.xxx.xxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mailsmith 1.1.6 (Bluto) Content-type: text/plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx On 6/4/04 at 9:47 PM, Phil Thomson <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote: > Sorry to be an idiot. Please reply off-list, but can someone > tell me where the new archives are so I can bookmark them? TIA. Well, I guess you have your choice: http://skylined.org/microsound/ http://www.propheticdesire.com/microsound.htm Best, Tad <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Jun 5 00:21:24 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30506-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.72]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 04 Jun 2004 20:21:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 04 Jun 2004 20:23:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 87556 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 05 Jun 2004 00:23:14 +0000 Received: (qmail 87544 invoked from network); Sat, 05 Jun 2004 00:23:13 +0000 Date: Sat, 05 Jun 2004 02:23:15 +0200 From: Luka Princic <xxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] [re: microsound list archive] To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.5 (X11/20040322) X-Enigmail-Version: 0.83.2.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p7 (Debian) at skylined.org X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx maybe this comes handy to someone: http://skylined.org/microsound/ freshly built, expect google result in about four weeks. obviously, i have too much time on my hands. ah, and it's refreshed daily. should work 95%. *grin* love. -- luka princic < nova at skylined.org > sonic artitecture gpg: 8E52 EBF8 D143 3C8B 4353 DA79 96EE 0CD0 28F1 A432 If we don't change direction soon, we'll end up where we're going. -- Professor Irwin Corey --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Jun 4 21:45:28 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30505-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.72]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 04 Jun 2004 17:45:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 04 Jun 2004 17:47:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 41741 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 04 Jun 2004 21:47:17 +0000 Received: (qmail 41731 invoked from network); Fri, 04 Jun 2004 21:47:16 +0000 Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2004 21:47:06 +0000 (UTC) From: Phil Thomson <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Archives X-X-Sender: xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx Hi all, Sorry to be an idiot. Please reply off-list, but can someone tell me where the new archives are so I can bookmark them? TIA. P ========= Phil Thomson home: http://www.sfu.ca/~pthomson label: http://centibel.org/ group: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/databenders/ ========= SDF Public Access UNIX System http://www.freeshell.org/ Geekier than you since 1987. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Jun 4 20:15:20 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30504-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.78]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 04 Jun 2004 16:15:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 04 Jun 2004 16:17:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 89388 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 04 Jun 2004 20:17:07 +0000 Received: (qmail 89329 invoked from network); Fri, 04 Jun 2004 20:17:07 +0000 Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2004 16:19:25 -0400 From: Mike Hansen <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] CKLN FM's Whynot Jazz playlist for May 26, 2004 To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.553) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > Dear Artist and Label > > Welcome to the radio program Whynot Jazz on Toronto's CKLN FM 88.1. > Heard Every Wednesday Morning from 7am-11am est, 1pm thru most of > Europe and noon in the UK. Available around the world at: > > www.ckln.fm > > Here is the playlist from the last Whynot Jazz Program. Please note > that radio program, hosted by Mike Hansen, takes an outside > examination of new improvised and jazz musics. Whynotjazz is one of > the very few voices for progessive new music heard in Toronto or > around the world. > > > Why Not? > 2004/05/26 > > > Artist > Song Title > Album Title > Label > > > > Akio Suzuki/David Toop > Breath-Taking > Breath-Taking > Con Front > > > > Charlotte Hug > No Land > Neuland > Emanem > > > > Adian Baker > Cipher > Cicatrice > Dreamland Recordings > > > > Frank Gratkowski Quartet > Facio pt 6 (Interference) > Facio > Leo records > > > > Zu and Spaceways > Canicula > Radiale > Atavistic > > > > Matthias Von Imhoff > Blanc > Re+Rea+ > independent > > > > Howard Stelzer > w/Vic Rawlings > demo > independent > > > > Norbert Moslang > c15 > Lat_Nc > For4Ears Records > > > > Chantle Laplante/Charlotte Hug > Zone of Zest > Brilliant Days > For 4Ears Records > > > > Efzeg > Mindel Dwa > Wurm > Charhizma > > > > JazzKammer > Sound of Music > demo > independent > > > > Limbo > The Dark Bar > Limbo > Astral Recordings > > > > Pau Torres > Underground Coffee > My Wrong Mood > Testing Ground > > > > Smash and Teeny w/John Butcher > Crunchy Hands > Gathering > Spool > > > > Brutt Luddite > Oasis > demo > independent > > > > The Bop Ants > #5 > Demo > Independent > > > > Chantle LaPlante/Charlotte Hug > Brilliant Arch > Brilliant Days > For4Ears > > > > Chantle LaPlante/Charlotte Hug > matieres agitees > Brilliant Days > For 4 Ears > > > > Chantle LaPlante/Charlotte Hug > Ciel (excerpt) > Brilliant Days > For 4 Ears > > > > > > Your support is necessary in keeping this voice for the music current. > Please feel free to forward music to the address below. Thanks again > for your support. Keep Listening > > Thanks > Mike > > > Mike Hansen > CKLN FM 88.1 > Whynot Jazz Program > 79 Benson Ave. > Toronto,On > Canada > M6G 2H7 > xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Jun 4 19:58:33 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30503-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.72]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 04 Jun 2004 15:58:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 04 Jun 2004 16:00:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 78637 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 04 Jun 2004 20:00:20 +0000 Received: (qmail 78620 invoked from network); Fri, 04 Jun 2004 20:00:20 +0000 Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2004 15:59:38 -0400 From: "tobias c. van Veen" <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] Mutek Moments [2] - RASTER-NOTON SOUND-SYSTEM : SAMPLING THE SAMPLERS To: Microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BCE64CEA.12F19%xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.4.030702.0 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx RASTER-NOTON SOUND-SYSTEM : SAMPLING THE SAMPLERS How many times have you gone out to a Œshow¹ only to find it¹s a masochistic bow-down to the ancient gods of sonus? Roll that again, Œcause we¹re trying to find words for what passed last night with Byetone, Frank Bretschneider and Carsten Nicolai on a sound-system. A sound-system: a black skycraper, a speaker grilled to the target of immolation. Where sound becomes physical input to genetic remixing (move the body in impossible formats). When the hairs on your arms stand on end, when the sound destroys all that remains of your head, your heart, your body. When the muscles flutter involuntarily. When sine waves coarse direct the techno conduit opens the bodymind. Unfortunately, it¹s too bad most of the crowd could only view it as a spectacle, mouths agape, arms crossed. As the saying goes, stunned like sheep, knee-deep. But there were a few getting freaky. Moving arms and legs to the static, the bleep, the bass drop. Those cold Germans... what is it that unravelled the sharp ice that cuts from silence to submission.... It¹s hot here now. The heat is out in the sun. Crammed into the SAT yesterday, for the Thinkbox Collective from Windsor/Detroit, unwinding to the melodic loops of techno in the breaking afternoon. From thunder to sun. Ah, techno. Forget pop‹all that pop has to offer is exciting only insofar as its horizon is clear. The direction of pop offers all the possibilities we can imagine within the sphere of pop. And pop will and can mutate. But pop¹s strain is a horizon that says: here I am, singing that same ol¹ song. ³It¹s that what people in the Civil Rights movement died for.. to dance around in malls..?² Herbert on Fat Boy Slim¹s sampling of a Civil Rights song, with the accompanying ³humourous² video from Spike Jonze, @ MUTEK¹s packed sampling panel. ³The Bush administration will go down as the worst in history.² Rob Theakston, powerpoint-style visual presentation during his ThinkBox performance, SAT Ah the debates are stirring here on the sampling panel. John Oswald, of Plunderphonics, throwing down the history and correcting Tomas Palermo¹s narrative of sampling (Palermo‹Editor of XLR8R). Jason Forrest, aka Donna Summer, with the straight-up take-no-prisoners aesthetic, but moving through the perspective of semiotics‹the symbol of sound, the sampling of the emotive force in a personal context. Herbert, arguing for the sampling-of-the-world, with a political edge that slices into sampling the works of others‹why sample other music when we can sample anything? Mark Quail, sound lawyer, instructing all on how it works (and offering the free advice‹laying down the law, and isn¹t it good to know that there is a sympathetic ear on this side of the fence). Stefan Betke (aka Pole), with the European mood: let the artist do what the artist does‹and let the industry and the world worry about the rest. And really, the question is: are aesthetics and ethics inseparable? (Jason Forrest thinks the two can be distinct‹Herbert doesn¹t). It¹s all about, as one member of the audience asserts, the marginalization of the few in favour of the name of the one. ³Jesus was basically telling these old stories, and putting a nasty twist on the end of it... he was punished a little more than we are now² a certain member of the Canadian Music Centre, on the historically infinite of ³sampling² ³The records are made to be used in a context... some people don¹t get their piece along the way... those who fight for it are going to be able to get paid² Mark Quail But what about those who can¹t afford it? [paraphrase] ³But there are lawyers who work for free...² Mark [a lawyer who probably is better than most, pro bono] ³...we wouldn¹t be having this discussion if we didn¹t have people pushing the envelope...² Tomas Palermo, XLR8R ³tobias c. van Veen² tobias c. van Veen ----------- http://www.quadrantcrossing.org http://www.thisistheonlyart.com ---McGill Communications------ ICQ: 18766209 | AIM: thesaibot --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Jun 4 19:45:58 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30502-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.78]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 04 Jun 2004 15:45:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 04 Jun 2004 15:47:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 73208 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 04 Jun 2004 19:47:46 +0000 Received: (qmail 73194 invoked from network); Fri, 04 Jun 2004 19:47:46 +0000 Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2004 21:47:39 +0200 From: Malte Steiner <xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Mac vs PC In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@x-x.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> Organization: block 4 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040514 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@x-x.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx derek holzer wrote: > Linux plus an Athlon processor laptop is my recommendation. You get more how is a mobile athlon? I don't like the idea to stuff a desktop cpu in a laptop and call 1 or 2 hours battery duration mobile computing. > graphics or things like that. This kind of trickery doesn't really make > me too fond of a company's business strategy. Trickery is all around, x86 laptops are almost built for windows, sad but true. Installing Linux is pain on them > > If you are curious if the PC laptop you are about to buy is > Linux-compatible, you can always take a live CD such as Knoppix or > Dyne:bolic to the shop and try it out: > > http://www.dynebolic.org/ or go to http://www.linuxlaptops.org/ I was in fact in shopping mood for a x86 Linux laptop and did a lot of research but then hesitated. > > Don't forget about PDP for video! Getting better all the time. yeah, got to check out, maybe good for my next project. > There's a picture > from the last Linux Audio conference of a guy from NI with Kontakt I got a piece played there. I love Jack and the way to route a signal out from Ardour, going through PD and back. ReWire in perfection, audiowise. Build your own 'plugins' and change them on the fly. But Ardour had a lot of problems with the automationdata in that time, dont ask me for the version #. > > [I would rather > wear my mother's underpants than mess around with OS 9!], Yeah, skip both :) Amiga was more multitasking then that! Cheers, Malte -- Malte Steiner media art + development -www.block4.com- unrequested news: new online release: http://www.stasisfield.com/releases/sf-3003.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Jun 4 19:16:39 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30501-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.68]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 04 Jun 2004 15:16:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 04 Jun 2004 15:18:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 60567 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 04 Jun 2004 19:18:24 +0000 Received: (qmail 60556 invoked from network); Fri, 04 Jun 2004 19:18:24 +0000 Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2004 21:20:04 +0200 From: derek holzer <xxxxx@x-x.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Mac vs PC In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@x-x.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040127 X-Enigmail-Version: 0.83.0.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx Malte Steiner wrote: > Installing Linux is a task on a laptop, it sometimes refuses several > features like wifi or sleep mode. But anyway, the intel world getting > better with the Centrinos so it will be different in a year, perhaps. Linux plus an Athlon processor laptop is my recommendation. You get more speed for the buck, and Athlons don't have this silly denormal numbers problem [i.e. CPU useage skyrockets whan it has to process floating point numbers which are extremely small, such as the values of samples at the tail of a revrb... this is a problem for all P4 and newer processors, also under windoze!] I'd say that Mac laptops are alright, but I know too much about the funny "hardware optimizations" which Mac does... things like putting the exact same video card in the season's release of Powerbook and the I-book, but crippling the firmware of the one in the Powerbook so that you have to buy an I-book to get a second video out or accelerated graphics or things like that. This kind of trickery doesn't really make me too fond of a company's business strategy. Another distro I would recommend is Planet CCRMA [based on Fedora, which is the new incarnation of Red Hat]. Super fast installation and a very helpful user list. http://ccrma.stanford.edu/planetccrma/software/ If you are curious if the PC laptop you are about to buy is Linux-compatible, you can always take a live CD such as Knoppix or Dyne:bolic to the shop and try it out: http://www.dynebolic.org/ > Software: Pure Data / gem, free and available for several OS Don't forget about PDP for video! Getting better all the time. > How far is Ardour, the opensource DAW? Anyone tested the current version > yet? I use Ardour quite a bit. In fact, I'm mixing a track in it right now. I have to admit it still has some instability issues [noting that they released an 0.9beta14 a few weeks ago, then almost immediately after told everyone to downgrade back to beta11!] They are really working their ass off to get to 1.0 status, so I am willing to accept some bugs [sometimes!] and look forward to the release of the first totally free alternative to ProTools this summer or fall. There's also FreqTweak, a Spectral Delay clone, and all the work people have been doing with VSTserver to get all those VST plugins and Native Instruments softsynths running under Linux as well! There's a picture from the last Linux Audio conference of a guy from NI with Kontakt running under Linux with VSTserver and Jack projected on the wall behind him. Kontakt, Battery or Absynth ain't free or open source by any stretch of the imagination, but if you already spent money on the apps, and/or are too lazy to build them yourself in PD [doesn't take that long once you get the hang of PD as a language] then it is probably worthwhile to check out. Speaking of Jack, this has to be the real killer Linux sound app out ther. Jack allows you to connect and route all the sound apps on your system. Last but certainbly not least there's Jamin, which is a truely sweet mastering tool. I have to admit my own personal bias towards Linux, simply because I dropped windoze a year ago and spent all the time since learning, using and teaching only free + open source software. So nothing could get me to go back to m$. Although OSX looks interesting enough [I would rather wear my mother's underpants than mess around with OS 9!], and is in fact based on another free, Unix-type operating system [FreeBSD], it just doesn't quite have everything in the right place yet in order to be fully Unix compatible. In my experience, running a lot of this free, Linux-world software on OSX takes more time and trouble often than just running Linux ;-) But to each their own... best, d. -- derek holzer ::: http://www.umatic.nl ---Oblique Strategy # 8: "Accretion" --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Jun 4 18:21:47 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30500-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.70]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 04 Jun 2004 14:21:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 04 Jun 2004 14:23:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 26761 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 04 Jun 2004 18:23:34 +0000 Received: (qmail 26751 invoked from network); Fri, 04 Jun 2004 18:23:34 +0000 Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2004 20:23:10 +0200 From: Malte Steiner <xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Mac vs PC In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> Organization: block 4 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040514 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx Chuck Benesh wrote: > I'm preparing to buy a new computer system and would > like some suggestions regarding Mac vs PC. What are > some good sound processing/recording, etc. programs > for each? Thanks. > If you go Desktop, a PC with Linux like mentionend is a way, going laptop go Apple, its even comparable pricewise. Its heavy to find a x86 laptop which compares to a powerbook in all features including displayquality, vga outputquality (maybe you want sometime to show interactive video on a concert), battery etc. Installing Linux is a task on a laptop, it sometimes refuses several features like wifi or sleep mode. But anyway, the intel world getting better with the Centrinos so it will be different in a year, perhaps. Software: Pure Data / gem, free and available for several OS Audacity, see above How far is Ardour, the opensource DAW? Anyone tested the current version yet? Cheers, Malte -- Malte Steiner media art + development -www.block4.com- unrequested news: new online release: http://www.stasisfield.com/releases/sf-3003.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Jun 4 18:17:57 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30499-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.42]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 04 Jun 2004 14:17:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 04 Jun 2004 14:19:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 25187 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 04 Jun 2004 18:19:44 +0000 Received: (qmail 25177 invoked from network); Fri, 04 Jun 2004 18:19:44 +0000 Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2004 20:19:41 +0200 From: "Tirriddiliu ." <xxxx_xxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Mac vs PC X-Originating-IP: [81.211.241.93] X-Sender: xxxx_xxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Bcc: Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Originating-Email: [xxxx_xxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Jun 2004 18:19:42.0039 (UTC) FILETIME=[81556670:01C44A60] >From: Neil Wiernik <xxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> >Reply-To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> >To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> >Subject: Re: [microsound] Mac vs PC >Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2004 13:41:12 -0400 (EDT) > > >try this one for agnula >http://www.agnula.org/index2_html >the other one is confusing to get to this one... I posted the main page right to not hide their protest against software patents. Dario. > > > >On Fri, 4 Jun 2004, pino barbara wrote: > > > > > > > > > >From: "Tjeerd Sietsma" <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx> > > >Reply-To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> > > >To: "microsound" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> > > >Subject: Re: [microsound] Mac vs PC > > >Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2004 15:33:14 +0200 > > > > >- PC's usually come with Windows. Windows demands your attention all >the > > >time. > > > > Linux is a good operating system. > > Developers are working on a distribution devoted to audio applications >and > > multimedia development. > > The project is called AGNULA, acronym for «A GNU/Linux Audio >distribution». > > Completely based on Free Software. > > > > Website: http://www.agnula.org/ > > > > Bye, > > Dario. > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* > > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > website: http://www.microsound.org > > > > > >-------------------------------------- >[neil adam wiernik aka naw] > xxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx >[music available on] > http://www.noisefactoryrecords.com > http://www.pieheadrecords.com > http://www.worthyrecords.com > http://www.complot.ca >[artist features] > http://www.clevermusic.net > http://www.newmusiccanada.com > http://www.cognitionaudioworks.com >-------------------------------------- > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >website: http://www.microsound.org > _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Jun 4 17:36:58 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30498-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.78]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 04 Jun 2004 13:36:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 04 Jun 2004 13:38:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 99002 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 04 Jun 2004 17:38:45 +0000 Received: (qmail 98992 invoked from network); Fri, 04 Jun 2004 17:38:45 +0000 Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2004 13:41:12 -0400 (EDT) From: Neil Wiernik <xxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Mac vs PC In-reply-to: <xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> Organization: The Dreaming Electronic Community Network Inc. MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=X-UNKNOWN Content-transfer-encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at dreaming.org X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx try this one for agnula http://www.agnula.org/index2_html the other one is confusing to get to this one... On Fri, 4 Jun 2004, pino barbara wrote: > > > > >From: "Tjeerd Sietsma" <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx> > >Reply-To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> > >To: "microsound" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> > >Subject: Re: [microsound] Mac vs PC > >Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2004 15:33:14 +0200 > > >- PC's usually come with Windows. Windows demands your attention all the > >time. > > Linux is a good operating system. > Developers are working on a distribution devoted to audio applications and > multimedia development. > The project is called AGNULA, acronym for «A GNU/Linux Audio distribution». > Completely based on Free Software. > > Website: http://www.agnula.org/ > > Bye, > Dario. > > _________________________________________________________________ > MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > -------------------------------------- [neil adam wiernik aka naw] xxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx [music available on] http://www.noisefactoryrecords.com http://www.pieheadrecords.com http://www.worthyrecords.com http://www.complot.ca [artist features] http://www.clevermusic.net http://www.newmusiccanada.com http://www.cognitionaudioworks.com -------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Jun 4 17:03:06 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30497-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.42]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 04 Jun 2004 13:03:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 04 Jun 2004 13:04:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 76447 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 04 Jun 2004 17:04:54 +0000 Received: (qmail 76437 invoked from network); Fri, 04 Jun 2004 17:04:53 +0000 Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2004 17:04:52 +0000 From: pino barbara <xxxx_xxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Mac vs PC X-Originating-IP: [81.211.241.93] X-Sender: xxxx_xxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Bcc: Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Originating-Email: [xxxx_xxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Jun 2004 17:04:52.0229 (UTC) FILETIME=[0D32C350:01C44A56] >From: "Tjeerd Sietsma" <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx> >Reply-To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> >To: "microsound" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> >Subject: Re: [microsound] Mac vs PC >Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2004 15:33:14 +0200 >- PC's usually come with Windows. Windows demands your attention all the >time. Linux is a good operating system. Developers are working on a distribution devoted to audio applications and multimedia development. The project is called AGNULA, acronym for «A GNU/Linux Audio distribution». Completely based on Free Software. Website: http://www.agnula.org/ Bye, Dario. _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Jun 4 16:44:59 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30496-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.72]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 04 Jun 2004 12:44:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 04 Jun 2004 12:46:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 68444 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 04 Jun 2004 16:46:43 +0000 Received: (qmail 68329 invoked from network); Fri, 04 Jun 2004 16:46:42 +0000 Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2004 16:46:39 +0000 From: "Resonic Lunatic Studios, inc." <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Nice to meet all :) & Re: [microsound] Mac vs PC X-Originating-IP: [62.37.23.29] X-Sender: xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Bcc: Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Originating-Email: [xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Jun 2004 16:46:40.0590 (UTC) FILETIME=[8287DEE0:01C44A53] (sorry about my english :P) Hi all, I'm new here :) My name is Nico Arianoutsos (from Madrid/Spain), I'm a c#, java, ... programer & electronic musician (resonic). If you are now in Madrid, come this Sunday (6/6) at Radar bar (resonic live act). Salutes goes to Dario Moratilla & Richard Chartier (very nice live act!!! at 'El hombre moderno' with Taylor Deupree). About Mac vs PC: I've got both systems & I've got these conclusions: - If the soft you need/want it's only for mac .. buy mac. =D - If you have no idea about computers .. buy mac. - Mac is tooooo slow, (my powerbook titanium runs like my old P3 - 550 mHz.) - Osx is slow too & has big bugs, ( Last month I tried to convert a fat32 partition on a firewire hd & all others partitions had formated. not my error! ). xp is better than osx. - If you want to try soft before buy, buy PC. - If you have to work with a considerable number of vst/vsti plugins at the same time, buy pc. - If you come from the 'pc world', don't buy mac. - If you want to buy a laptop, don't buy mac ( or wait until g5 version Zzzz!). anybody knows when they arrive ? Hi Tjeerd Sietsma, you wrote: >- PC's usually come with Windows. Windows demands your attention all the >time. My windows never demands my attention. >From: Dale Lloyd <xxxxx@xxx-xxx.xxx> Reply-To: microsound ><xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> >Subject: Re: [microsound] Mac vs PC Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2004 07:29:39 -0700 >(PDT) > >Tjeerd Sietsma <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx> wrote: > >The main differences between a PC and a Mac are (from a sound designer's >point of view): - PC is cheaper than a Mac to buy, but a Mac keeps it's >value - PC's usually come with Windows. Windows demands your attention all >the time. _________________________________________________________________ Descarga gratis la Barra de Herramientas de MSN http://www.msn.es/usuario/busqueda/barra?XAPID=2031&DI=1055&SU=http%3A//www.hotmail.com&HL=LINKTAG1OPENINGTEXT_MSNBH --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Jun 4 15:37:20 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30495-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.42]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 04 Jun 2004 11:37:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 04 Jun 2004 11:39:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 32523 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 04 Jun 2004 15:39:07 +0000 Received: (qmail 32511 invoked from network); Fri, 04 Jun 2004 15:39:06 +0000 Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2004 17:37:24 +0200 From: Michael Nisi <_@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Public Beta, Release of 6 pieces in mp3 format In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Organization: MN MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.5 (Windows/20040207) X-Provags-ID: kundenserver.de xxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xx auth:75017dfabe70c4b1743bb5dad3b05885 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx Promotional Email, 2004-06-04 Subject Release of 6 pieces in mp3 format exclusively available on MichaelNisi.Com Public Beta by Michael Nisi Note Usually the testing-state of application-development is divided in two phases: alpha (internal) and beta (external). 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Fri Jun 4 14:27:53 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30494-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.67]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 04 Jun 2004 10:27:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 04 Jun 2004 10:29:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 98446 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 04 Jun 2004 14:29:40 +0000 Received: (qmail 98432 invoked from network); Fri, 04 Jun 2004 14:29:40 +0000 Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2004 07:29:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Dale Lloyd <xxxxx@xxx-xxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Mac vs PC In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_sks45erN5agFRxHWuZuhOQ)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_sks45erN5agFRxHWuZuhOQ) Content-Type: text/plain; Charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Tjeerd Sietsma <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx> wrote: The main differences between a PC and a Mac are (from a sound designer's point of view): - PC is cheaper than a Mac to buy, but a Mac keeps it's value - PC's usually come with Windows. Windows demands your attention all the time. In what way do you mean that Windows "demands your attention all the time"? I work on both PC and Mac and don't find either one to demand more of my time than the other. From what I've seen, both operating systems have thier own particular issues. And all the talk about how Macs are "more intuitive" are based on subjective opinions rather than objective ones because when I first started using PCs, I didn't have much problem getting around on them (without a manual), but when I started working with Macs, I had to spend too much time searching for certain basic functions and system settings. But this was just my personal experience (again, a subjective one). And if you're working with sound, Macs and programs made for Macs are (yes, needlessly) overpriced, and there are still way more sound oriented programs available that are made for Windows and cost less money or are available for free on the internet. And I still think many people in the sound world partially use Macs because they are viewed as some sort of status symbol ! ;-) I'm sorry people, but it doesn't make the music any better just because it was made on a Mac. Best, Dale --Boundary_(ID_sks45erN5agFRxHWuZuhOQ)-- From ???@??? Fri Jun 4 13:31:30 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30493-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.67]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 04 Jun 2004 09:31:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 04 Jun 2004 09:33:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 76677 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 04 Jun 2004 13:33:17 +0000 Received: (qmail 76662 invoked from network); Fri, 04 Jun 2004 13:33:17 +0000 Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2004 15:33:14 +0200 From: Tjeerd Sietsma <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Mac vs PC In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME::Lite 1.3 (F2.72; T1.001; A1.62; B3.01; Q3.01) Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Sasl-Enc: 4CHVguUkE9fwhGGrDYfV0Q 1086355994 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx It's the question that makes answering hard.. For what purpose do you want to buy a computer? Will you use it for live audio, studiowork, recording, editing, sounddesign etc.? Is money important in this matter? Do you mind thinking of an operating system half the time you are using your computer? What audio hardware will you be using with your computer? Do you need a portable computer or a desktop computer? Do you want to connect the device to the internet? The main differences between a PC and a Mac are (from a sound designer's point of view): - PC is cheaper than a Mac to buy, but a Mac keeps it's value - PC's usually come with Windows. Windows demands your attention all the time. There are a lot of things you should consider before buying a computer. Price/performance ratio, dealer location, service, hardware and software compatability (PCI/PCMCIA slots etc.), the en- vironment in which it will be used (laptop/desktop, noisy/noiseless), endurance. Tjeerd Sietsma electronic music student @ HKU - Utrecht School of Arts On Sun, 30 May 2004 15:15:01 -0700 (PDT), "Adverbialsensationalist" <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> said: > > > Chuck Benesh <xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> wrote: > I'm preparing to buy a new computer system and would > like some suggestions regarding Mac vs PC. What are > some good sound processing/recording, etc. programs > for each? Thanks. > > sound sythesis for any platform which i find good? in relative order for > price aswell: reaktor from native instruments or max/msp from cycling74 > (pluggo aswell if ya go mac), and ultimately kyma w/ capybara sound > computation engine. good luck. > > -dot > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > > > > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > Friends. Fun. 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Fri Jun 4 12:20:38 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30492-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta10.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta10.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.85]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 04 Jun 2004 08:20:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta10.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 04 Jun 2004 08:22:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 49907 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 04 Jun 2004 12:22:22 +0000 Received: (qmail 49897 invoked from network); Fri, 04 Jun 2004 12:22:21 +0000 Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2004 14:22:16 +0200 From: Edge Radio <xxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] playlist #82 To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.618) Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_NNpJTyjtWEQSBEkBWgSTgA)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-AtHome-MailScanner-Information: Neem contact op met xxxxxxx@xxxx.xx voor meer informatie X-AtHome-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_NNpJTyjtWEQSBEkBWgSTgA) Content-Type: text/plain; Charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Edge Radio #82, May 11 2004: walter - drumm - lonberg holm II Excrement album: Eruption (Grob) AGF Leaving With Hope Letsgo album: Westernization Completed (Orthlong Musork) Christoph Kurzmann Sinnphonie Aporique album: Turning Dreams and Shifting Harbours (www.kidnappingeurope.net) MEV untitled 1/Rome Concert 1967 album: Pieces (IRML) Tim Koh / Kohei Nakagawa / Koji Tano / John Wiese / Yasutoshi Yoshida track 09 Koh / Wiese / Yoshida album: Frankenstein and Dracula Girls Tokyo Headlock (Helicopter) Helge Schneider Arbeitsambt ii album: Eiersalat In Rock (EMI) Kurt Schwitters/Jaap Blonk Ursonate erster teil (live January 28, 2003 in the Chapel of Akademie St. Joost, Breda, Netherlands) album: Ursonate (Basta) Asmus Tietchens Zwingburgern des Hedonismus album: Zwingburgern des Hedonismus (Multimood) Fennesz City of Light album: Venice (Touch) Brion Gysin Stop Smoking album: Self-Portrait Jumping (Crammed Discs) John Shiurba Adobe album: Triplicate (Spool) Perry Friedmann Wir singen heute die Lieder von Morgen album: Unser Zeichen Ist die Sonne (Hansa Amig) Beijing Sound Unit Minibus Pimps album: China, The Sonic Avant-Garde (Post -Concrete) Jacques Tati Ambiances retour vacances album: Les vacances de monsieur Hulot (Travelling) Zhang Jüngang national anthem in school Minibus Pimps album: China, The Sonic Avant-Garde (Post -Concrete) Jacques Tati Ambiances restaurant & musique album: Les vacances de monsieur Hulot (Travelling) Thanks to De Platenworm ------------------------------ Edge Radio show for experimental music Radijsstraat 51a 9741BL Groningen The Netherlands xxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xx Blog Livestream 22.00-00.00 GMT / 23.00-01.00 CET ------------------------------ --Boundary_(ID_NNpJTyjtWEQSBEkBWgSTgA)-- From ???@??? Fri Jun 4 10:08:30 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30491-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.74]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 04 Jun 2004 06:08:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 04 Jun 2004 06:10:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 27682 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 04 Jun 2004 10:10:06 +0000 Received: (qmail 27670 invoked from network); Fri, 04 Jun 2004 10:10:03 +0000 Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2004 12:09:47 +0200 From: The Expert <xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] remixers wanted ! In-reply-to: <BCD95ADD.12A72%xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.618) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <BCD95ADD.12A72%xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx Dear list, a friend of mine, German guitar player Dennis Schütze, has a project online at http://www.picturesinmymind.com/ where he's presenting source material and results of de- or re-constructing one of his songs. Yes, it's really a song, so those of you who think this is too naive should skip right now. All the other people who have some spare time and see the challenge in participating and messing up a simple song are heartly welcome to do so. The source material consists of two tracks incl. vocals and guitar. The first bunch of remixes has already been released on CD, but was aimed more towards "accessibility". The second wave of remixes is expected to go far more into experimental, electro-acoustic, glitch or abstract realms, so please don't take the examples presented at the moment as a guideline. There's no commercial aspect to the project, so all you get is the chance to reach a new audience more familiar with popular music. You also get full credit and, in case of a release, some CDs to spread. I really hope that some of you get into it (and show the 1-2-3-4 people what deconstruction really means ...). 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Fri Jun 4 09:05:29 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30490-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.67]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 04 Jun 2004 05:05:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 04 Jun 2004 05:07:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 16168 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 04 Jun 2004 09:07:18 +0000 Received: (qmail 16158 invoked from network); Fri, 04 Jun 2004 09:07:18 +0000 Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2004 11:07:18 +0200 From: uzekt <xxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] < Pour les oiseaux > Palais des Beaux-Arts de Lille _ 4 juillet 2004 To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <002701c44a13$56cbfe20$xxxxxxxx@xxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_iz/NYuV08P1QeZs8HRm5cA)" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_iz/NYuV08P1QeZs8HRm5cA) Content-Type: text/plain; Charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit < Pour les oiseaux > Palais des Beaux-Arts de Lille 4 juillet 2004 DIMANCHE 4 JUILLET 2004 POUR LES OISEAUX Palais des Beaux-Arts - TERRASSE LILLE - FRANCE DE 15H00 A 22H00 ENTREE GRATUITE LIVE : POLE, SI-CUT.DB, JONAS BERING, PHILIPPE CAM, BERN, TEZ MISE EN SON : très haute défi nition garantie par un dispositif d'enceintes acoustiques modulaires. POSTAIR vous invite à la terrasse du Palais des Beaux-Arts pour un parcours des sens avec 6 concerts de musique électronique ambiante et une installation architecturale imaginée par STEL, jeune architecte en devenir. ACCÈS AU Palais des Beaux-Arts : En métro : ligne 1 - station République/Beaux-Arts. En voiture : suivre direction « Lille centre », Parking sous-terrain Place de la République. Personnes à mobilité réduite : accès par le boulevard de la Liberté En cas de mauvaises conditions météorologiques, les concerts se dérouleront à l'intérieur du Palais des Beaux-Arts de Lille (Auditorium). L'accès à la terrasse s'effectue par l'intérieur du Palais des Beaux-Arts. Ce jour là, la visite du musée est gratuite pour tous. + d'infos sur : www.postair.net --Boundary_(ID_iz/NYuV08P1QeZs8HRm5cA)-- From ???@??? Fri Jun 4 08:28:25 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30489-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.67]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 04 Jun 2004 04:28:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 04 Jun 2004 04:30:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 7100 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 04 Jun 2004 08:30:13 +0000 Received: (qmail 7089 invoked from network); Fri, 04 Jun 2004 08:30:12 +0000 Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2004 10:31:18 +0200 From: kristof lauwers <xxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] call for works: Electro-acoustic pieces with video X-Sender: xxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <x.x.x.x.x.xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx +++CALL FOR WORKS+++ Electro-acoustic pieces with video In the past the Logos Foundation in Belgium has organised several electro-acoustic concerts. The Logos Foundation is a centre for new experimental music and audio arts and we wish to give our audience the opportunity to hear the latest electronic music. In the following year we would like to organize several concerts with electro-acoustical pieces & video because we have noticed that recently more and more composers of electronic and electro-acoustic music have been collaborating with video artists. Composers from all over the world are invited to send recent works. Works must be for SOUND AND VIDEO WITHOUT LIVE PERFORMERS or musicians. The works may be on DVD, Hi8 (8mm video) or any other video format playable on a PC. The duration of the separate pieces may not exceed 30 minutes. You may send as many works as you like. First deadline (for a concert in september 2004): 15 july 2004 second deadline (for a concert in the beginning of 2005): 15 november 2004 address: Logos Foundation ("call for works") Kongostraat 35, B-9000 Gent, Belgium contact: xxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx http://www.logosfoundation.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Jun 4 03:58:43 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30488-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.42]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 03 Jun 2004 23:58:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 04 Jun 2004 00:00:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 43768 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 04 Jun 2004 04:00:29 +0000 Received: (qmail 43758 invoked from network); Fri, 04 Jun 2004 04:00:28 +0000 Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2004 14:01:10 +1000 From: Brendan Palmer <xx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Melb : Australia : Sunday : gig To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BCE63126.6F84%xx@xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx Attn: All Melbourne based subscribers this event is on Sunday and will feature minimalist electronic sounds as a vital ingredient (even though it's intention is for different music and art forms to collide in unique ways) read on if your interested... (and make contact if you live in melb or are touring the city coz there are many opportunities in future) ENViRON First Sundays at LOOP 23 Meyers Place Melb city OPENING NIGHT : SUNDAY JUNE 6 : 7PM TIL LATE : $5 a monthly event presenting a moody salad bowl of unpredictable aesthetics. a potentially dangerous and mind-altering experiment mixes together the many talents of the melbourne music and visual art movements. inter-state and international guests add their own elements to the exchange, bridging different territorial and cultural traditions. and woven withinŠ talula - a new performance concept - defies tradition by taking cues from installation arts, AV manipulation, jazz, dub and electronic music methodologiesŠ through talula, artists get to know each other thru the forging of unlikely and unpredictable collaborations, in which the individual roles of each participant merge into oneŠ the selector creates the sonic foundation, the freestyler reacts accordingly, the mixer treats Œdub style¹ the overall sonic concoction, and the media median generates visual life forms that inspire the whole process all over againŠ a feedback cycle of creativity, confrontation of ideas and complimentary collisionŠ "The game show of sound clashes, the thunderdome of musical jamsŠTalula may change the way late night entertainment consumption is perceived from here onŠ" Bernard Tindall *Talula #1 (9pm) Mik laVage IdioSync, Thereminbass Andy Williams Melbourne, avant-sax maestro Paul Rodgers Loophole cinema UK, Wax film screened at Tate Britain, Lecturer at Swinburn Unviversity Melbourne Viktor Markov Channel Comm Bulgaria, SBS Radio *Talula #2 (11pm) Brendan Palmer Clan Analogue, EAR, Zonar, Alchemy Frost School of Emotional Engineering Layla Vardo IdioSync Damien Charles NZ, Red Eyes alongside: Zaibatsu (DJ) Dubwise (DJ) Jean P00le (VJ) John Aslanidis (projection) more info on the artists can be found at http://www.environline.net also look at Loop's site for other events at that special venue http://www.looponline.com.au --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Jun 3 22:47:44 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30487-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.68]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 03 Jun 2004 18:47:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 03 Jun 2004 18:49:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 36034 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 03 Jun 2004 22:49:26 +0000 Received: (qmail 35432 invoked from network); Thu, 03 Jun 2004 22:49:22 +0000 Date: Thu, 03 Jun 2004 23:42:43 +0100 From: douglas benford <xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxxxx.xx.xx> Subject: [microsound] SPRAWL, London nxt wk w. Mask/Digital Intervention/T. Sideb0ard X-Sender: xxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xx.xx To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <v04003a53bce3907cda97@[217.44.178.248]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ S P R A W L June 2004 bulletin ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ SPRAWL at the Lifthouse, next week. NB ** last sprawl of the summer! WEDS June 9th live line up DIGITAL INTERVENTION Paul Kendall, Mute label producer, and Olivia Louvel http://www.parallelseries.com MASK Marvyn Ayres (Mille Plateaux) & Sonja Kristina (Ex-Curved Air) http://www.mask.uk.net BELA EMERSON Radio 3 Mixing It/John Peel -aired cello experiments "Excellent: the music always seems to move when you want it too - the sounds are many and varied." Mark Russell, Mixing it. guest dj THORSTEN SIDEBOARD of legendary 8bitrec and http://www.highpointlowlife.com resident djs/curators: SI-CUT.DB (bip hop/fallt/highpointlowlife) Iris Garrelfs (Germany/BitTonic) venue: SECOND FLOOR, THE LIFTHOUSE address: 85 CHARTERHOUSE ST, LONDON EC1M 6HJ tube: Farringdon tel: 020 7251 8787 xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx.xx, http://www.lifthouse.co.uk ADMISSION 4, concs 3 7.30pm - midnight ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ** Sprawls will be back in September ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ [] some related artist activities ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ si-cut.db, Iris Garrelfs - live ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ JUNE 4 IRIS GARRELFS Truman Brewery, Brick Lane, London, England JUNE 5 SI-CUT.DB w. dj xx@xxx-xxx.xxx, Jan Jelenik, Vladislav Delay, Felix Kubin, Senor Coconut, Francisc lopez, T. Brinkmann & others. Synch Festival, Athens, Greece http://www.synch.gr JUNE 11-14 IRIS GARRELFS - film presentation at **SOUND CIRCUS** Sonic Arts Network conference, inc works and performances by Adaadat, BEAST, Codec/X, Peter Cusack, John Levack Drever, Iris Garrelfs, Jonty Harrison, Modified Toy Orchestra, Adrian Moore, Pippa Murphy, Seed Records, Daniel Schachter, Volcano the Bear, David Zicarelli, Kaffe Matthews and Pete Batchelor Leicester, England Free (except Saturday at the Phoenix - Saturday/Phoenix Day Pass: £8/6 concessions), Free to SAN members http://www.sonicartsnetwork.org/ JULY 4 SI-CUT.DB w. Pole, Philippe Cam, Jonas Bering, Tez, Bern & others. Le Palais des Beaux Arts, Lille, France http://www.postair.net AUG 27 SI-CUT.DB + Frank Bretschneider aka Komet + dj/xx@xxx-xxx.xxx + Pan/tone BiP_HOp Generation night, RECLY'ART, Bruxelles, 1000 BELGIUM http://www.recyclart.be [] related artist recordings/misc ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ si-cut.db / iris garrelfs - releases ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ JUST OUT: si-cut.db 'Offices at Night Vol 1 - Originals' recordings from 1999-2001 on Fallt. mastered by Benge. Part 1 of a 3 CD set to be continued...CD 2 to include remixes by Mapstation, Mitchell Akiyama, Sebastien Roux, Stephan Mathieu, Motion & others http://www.fallt.com CURRENT: Exclusive track: 'Donna' a version of an Art of Noise track by si-cut.db & BitTonic (I. Garrelfs) on compilation 'The Seduction of The Art of Noise' next to AON verisons by Benge, Chi2, Hexstatic & others. http://www.karvavena.com CURRENT: si-cut.db album 'find some shade' on Highpointlowlife, CD (hpll 006) mastered by Twerk. http://www.highpointlowlife.com downloads: http://www.invisible-sound.com/ si-cut.db & full swing [und.and] stephan mathieu und douglas benford. reciprocess +/vs.vol 2 (bip hop/fallt). cd (bleep 22) http://www.bip-hop.com + http://www.fallt.com/+/vs/2/ si-cut.db back catalogue & rarities can now be paid via paypal write to <xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxxxx.xx.xx> for full list. future: new si-cut.db album on bip-hop, later in 2004 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ TENNIS (si-cut.db + benge) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ CURRENT: Exclusive Tenns track 'Redmur' (1min), In aid of Resonance FM on "Flat Pack Antenna" Various Artists inc Jem Finer, Benge, Illuminati. 500 only numbered edition vinyl LP Hearing Aid records (YAH 001) http://www.resonancefm.com available Rough Trade etc. and also http://www.posteverything.com/ CURRENT: 'FURLINES' double CD including remixes http://www.bip-hop.com/ ALSO: original 1st Tennis album Wooden Sweets still available, info <xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxxxx.xx.xx> Tennis live broadcasts archives: BBC Radio 3 & Tate Modern http://www.tate.org.uk/audiovideo/delay.htm http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio3/world/mixingitnov01.shtml THE SPRAWL WEBSITE ++ hosted by DFUSE ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ++ sprawl events plus EXCLUSIVELY thru' our website only release mail order of SPRAWL IMPRINT, SUBURBS OF HELL & PANTUNES (see 'vaults') classic 'retronica' catalogue. Paypal available. http://www.dfuse.com/sprawl/ best wishes ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Iris Garrelfs [BitTonic] http://www.dfuse.com/BitTonic http://www.dfuse.com/iris si-cut.db [d.benford] http://home.earthlink.net/~efrans/benford http://www.bip-hop.com/ http://www.highpointlowlife.com http://www.fallt.com http://www.background-records.de SPRAWL http://www.dfuse.com/sprawl/ website hosted by d-fuse.com E-MAIL <xxxxxx@xxxxx.xxxxx.xx.xx> --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Jun 3 21:52:22 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30486-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.72]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 03 Jun 2004 17:52:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 03 Jun 2004 17:54:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 21335 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 03 Jun 2004 21:54:08 +0000 Received: (qmail 21316 invoked from network); Thu, 03 Jun 2004 21:54:07 +0000 Date: Thu, 03 Jun 2004 17:53:04 -0400 From: "tobias c. van Veen" <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] link for mutek moment/s To: Microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BCE51600.12EB2%xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.4.030702.0 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx http://www.zed.cbc.ca/go.ZeD?POS=1&CONTENT_ID=139383&FILTER_KEY=92045&page=c ontent [ take off the user=saibot reference - afaik you don't need a ZeD login] sorry, tV tobias c. van Veen ----------- http://www.quadrantcrossing.org http://www.thisistheonlyart.com ---McGill Communications------ ICQ: 18766209 | AIM: thesaibot --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Jun 3 21:48:45 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30485-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.68]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 03 Jun 2004 17:48:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 03 Jun 2004 17:50:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 19268 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 03 Jun 2004 21:50:31 +0000 Received: (qmail 19258 invoked from network); Thu, 03 Jun 2004 21:50:31 +0000 Date: Thu, 03 Jun 2004 17:48:51 -0400 From: "tobias c. van Veen" <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] moments of mutek .01 To: Microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BCE51503.12EAD%xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.4.030702.0 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx [ moments of mutek .01 ] http://www.zed.cbc.ca/go.ZeD?POS=1&CONTENT_ID=139383&FILTER_KEY=92045&page=c ontent&user=saibot Mutek always hits with the heat, but this year it has dropped with thunder and drizzled the downpour. It's been a slow creep into a week that has snuck up with more punch than expected. What would Mutek be like this year? How many corps into the 'esprit Mutek'? With the late line-up announcement, where are we at with digeratti, the mountain of avant-garde electronic music and culture at 4 dots into the 21c? (At the panel, Philip Sherburne, XLR8R journalist, is questioning .. 'does anyone read? I don't even read music magazines .. I just pick up and flip through ...') Last night @ SAT, tripping over bodies. Schneider TM rocks out the floor in three suits of white, lab-rats in a cage. Singin', sputterin', shootin' from the hip and chanting songs about the soundman: "The LEFT SPEAKER IS NOT WORKING!" -- in a mass fucked up vocoder, the drummer slammin' down the MIDI pads, squelch and squelch. The Germans know how to rock the techno-pop. (And to send out the cliche: non-stop). Earlier, Junior Boys on the geek-tip: is this the incoming of vocal emo techno? (All the reasons we fled indie so many years ago - and here the journalists, hear them now, singing the popification of techno. Hail the song genre, the loop of the moment has faded. But is it really pop? What is pop when sent to the genetic strain of techno?). Another fragment of the night, the very end of the night, 3am-- and then there was Smith 'n Hack: boing beats slammin' down but without sticking to the 4. Interesting? No, just undanceable skipping samplers. Played song style. Is Smith n' Hack brilliant or just goofing off with gear, stripping work that any other producer would name the beta and not the final release? All these questions that are more or less aimlessly circling the question of aesthetic judgement. But also something else: a stench of death in numbers. So forget the numbers. Follow the eyes to the trip-out of Fluux. Ah, Fluux, at the new salle in Ex-Centris. No longer do we cramp on the cement floor. Mutek has gone upscale, to the theatre (and sweet surround theatre sound of precisely alienating frequencies). And to the beautiful world of Fluux, the incredible and sustained animation, of gravity and wireframe models swimming in pools of physics. Hands-down, Fluux's performance constituted the most spectacular moment in visual and music production that has graced Mutek's stage (and yes that includes Bola). Chessmachine: Richard Chartier and COH (Ivan Pavlov). The game: pink vs. blue. Sonic chess. Microscopic to noise. Moves and parries. At this point, sound has become conceptual: the entirety of the performance mimes Duchamp's chess game in New York, on the arch above the park. http://www.chessgames.com/player/marcel_duchamp.html 'Chess is a sport. A violent sport. This detracts from its artistic connections. One intriguing aspect of the game that does imply artistic connotations is the geometrical patterns and variations of the actual set up of the pieces in the combinative, tactical, strategical and positional sense. It is a sad means of expression though - somewhat like religious art- it is not very gay. If anything, it is a struggle.' -- Marcel Duchamp ++ And a struggle it was, producing through its conflict of moves an intricate back-and-forth. Low rumbles and hard hits from Pavlov; complex rhythms and strategies from Chartier. Increasing frustration as Pavlov gets up from his chair. Deadpan, in his blue. Chartier, in his pink. Each with a coloured flag, hitting the chess timer with a mark of combat and a gentleman's agreement. Again, another move in electronic music's development: toward the larger concept of the generation (Beyond laptop, the laptop as a piece in a much larger structure. The homology of the laptop to the chess game; the binary moves of the dot and the dash, retreat, encapture, en passant.) [ fragments arriving // ] tobias c. van Veen ----------- http://www.quadrantcrossing.org http://www.thisistheonlyart.com ---McGill Communications------ ICQ: 18766209 | AIM: thesaibot --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Jun 3 21:20:41 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30484-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.42]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 03 Jun 2004 17:20:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 03 Jun 2004 17:22:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 11005 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 03 Jun 2004 21:22:26 +0000 Received: (qmail 10994 invoked from network); Thu, 03 Jun 2004 21:22:26 +0000 Date: Thu, 03 Jun 2004 23:21:51 +0200 From: "Glenn Folkvord (Hyperion Media)" <xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Mutek report, anyone? To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <07ca01c449b0$db814390$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 Content-type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxxxx.xx.xx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx Hey, I am interested in publishing a comprehensive report from the Mutek festival on my website, so anyone who feels inclined to write a report (from the eye of a visitor) feel free to contact me at xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx Regards from Glenn Folkvord Hyperion Media - arts and media development xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Jun 3 18:55:36 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30483-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.68]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 03 Jun 2004 14:55:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 03 Jun 2004 14:57:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 55215 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 03 Jun 2004 18:57:20 +0000 Received: (qmail 55205 invoked from network); Thu, 03 Jun 2004 18:57:20 +0000 Date: Thu, 03 Jun 2004 19:58:23 +0100 From: Benjamin Green <x@xxxxxxx.xxxxx.xx.xx> Subject: [microsound] [as] june 2004/ 2CD To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx, lowercase-sound <xxxxxxxxx-xxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>, resonancefm <xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>, xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxxxx.xx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; en-US; rv:1.6b) Gecko/20031208 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx ......... :on cd:: ......... ....as... 2 cd set, limited edition of 200 copies. 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Ellen Fullman: www.deepmedia.org/ellenfullman/ recorded by Jonathan Poliart: Brussells, September 2003 2. trio: Manu Holterbach, Sophie Durand [finger bowed singing glasses designed by Manu Holterbach], Pierre Berthet [extended loudspeaker installation]. recorded by Manu Holterbach: Geule, June 2003 3. solo: Pierre Berthet [extended loudspeakers installation] Four extended loudspeakers without membranes connected to 16 thin can resonators, being sent sine waves and feedback. Sinewaves are modulated by a max/msp program designed by Patrick Delges. recorded: Benoit Declerck, Jean Marc Sullon and Patrick Delges: Z33 gallery, Hasselt, Belgium 2002 mix: Patrick Delges this is a short extract of a forthcoming C.D. on the label erehwon: http://www.radiantslab.com/erewhon/news.html ......... 19.06.04 Tom Marioni: one hour as 1969 - 2004 First piece is "The Yellow Sound for Kandinsky" an edited collection of my sound works performed in galleries and museums in Europe, America, and Japan from 1969 to 1990. Second piece: "Beer Drinking Sonata (for 13 Players)" and Part I of "Unity Without Uniformity" performed by my Art Orchestra in 1997 at the California Palace of the Legion of Honor Museum, San Francisco. Third piece: "Breathing Exercise" performed by my Buddhist Band, made up of 5 sculptors who designed low frequency sound instruments that imitate a chant. The performance was in 2004 at the Yerba Buena Center for the Arts, San Francisco. Tom Marioni. Founder and director of the Museum of Conceptual Art (MOCA) 1970-1984. Organized "Sound Sculpture As" 1970. Created "The Act of Drinking Beer with Friends is the Highest Form of Art" Oakland Museum, California, 1970. Author of "Beer, Art and Philosophy" 2003, Crown Point Press, San Francisco, CA. tmarioni[at]earthlink.net ......... 26.06.04 [no show] ......... cheers, b. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Jun 3 16:03:16 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30482-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.69]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 03 Jun 2004 12:03:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 03 Jun 2004 12:05:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 80430 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 03 Jun 2004 16:05:01 +0000 Received: (qmail 80420 invoked from network); Thu, 03 Jun 2004 16:05:00 +0000 Date: Thu, 03 Jun 2004 18:06:42 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Th=E9ophraste_Peeble?= <xxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] hello To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Th=E9ophraste_Peeble?= <xxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xx> Message-id: <002601c44984$c2c4bac0$xxxxxxxx@xxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_yG/1zyUo9UExYHHUMo4YaA)" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Mailbox-Line: From xxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xx Thu Jun 03 18:04:50 2004 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_yG/1zyUo9UExYHHUMo4YaA) Content-Type: text/plain; Charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit hi, I'm new on the microsound list I'm french, so excuse my bad english You can find some of my tracks on http://mapage.noos.fr/verchonfourgu Is the Pi project over ? Some artists quite interesting : http://perso.wanadoo.fr/minisub/ http://gameboyzz.terra.pl/ http://www.autresdirections.net/ --Boundary_(ID_yG/1zyUo9UExYHHUMo4YaA)-- From ???@??? Thu Jun 3 15:30:37 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30481-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.70]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 03 Jun 2004 11:30:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 03 Jun 2004 11:32:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 64200 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 03 Jun 2004 15:32:22 +0000 Received: (qmail 64185 invoked from network); Thu, 03 Jun 2004 15:32:22 +0000 Date: Thu, 03 Jun 2004 11:32:37 -0400 From: "tobias c. van Veen" <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] MUTEK webcast In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> To: Microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BCE4BCD5.12E86%xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.4.030702.0 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx http://www.zed.cbc.ca/mutek http://www.bandeapart.fm/mutek > hi > > does anyone know where to find the webcast mentioned in the popup at > mutek.ca > > couldn´t find anything... (not even on piratetv.net) > > > cheerz > mark > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > tobias c. van Veen ----------- http://www.quadrantcrossing.org http://www.thisistheonlyart.com ---McGill Communications------ ICQ: 18766209 | AIM: thesaibot --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Jun 3 15:04:23 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30480-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.42]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 03 Jun 2004 11:04:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 03 Jun 2004 11:06:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 47344 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 03 Jun 2004 15:06:04 +0000 Received: (qmail 47298 invoked from network); Thu, 03 Jun 2004 15:06:04 +0000 Date: Thu, 03 Jun 2004 15:06:02 +0000 From: scott allison <xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Event: Richmond VA, tonight. X-Originating-IP: [68.165.209.33] X-Sender: xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Bcc: Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Originating-Email: [xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Jun 2004 15:06:02.0853 (UTC) FILETIME=[49589150:01C4497C] Quick note for those in the United States, on the east coast, in central Virginia... Broadcastatic Presents : Thursday June 03, 2004 7:00pm SHARP $3 - $5 Howard Stelzer [http://www.howardstelzer.com/] Jazzkammer (Their first US tour!) [http://www.jazzkammer.com/] Ting ing Jahe + sc.all [http://www.broadcastatic.com/tingtingjahe] [http://scarcelight.com/slr/sa.html] Art Works 320 Hull Street Richmond, VA (804)291-1400 Thanks for your time... Scott Allison _________________________________________________________________ Watch the online reality show Mixed Messages with a friend and enter to win a trip to NY http://www.msnmessenger-download.click-url.com/go/onm00200497ave/direct/01/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Jun 3 13:59:41 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30476-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.74]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 03 Jun 2004 09:59:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 03 Jun 2004 10:01:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 6219 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 03 Jun 2004 14:01:25 +0000 Received: (qmail 6207 invoked from network); Thu, 03 Jun 2004 14:01:25 +0000 Date: Thu, 03 Jun 2004 10:33:59 -0400 From: john saylor <xx@xxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] + Speak and Spell/ CapitalMUTEK/Interactive 04 In-reply-to: <BCE414D7.12E54%xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> <BCE414D7.12E54%xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx hi ( 04.06.02 23:35 -0400 ) tobias c. van Veen: > http:://www.zed.cbc.ca/mutek this gets redirected to www.microsoft.com [and i don't see any upload links on the page ...]. hacked? mis-configured? conceptual parody? -- \js $ [|$ ~&`]+ ~@ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Jun 3 14:02:46 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30477-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.67]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 03 Jun 2004 10:02:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 03 Jun 2004 10:04:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 8812 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 03 Jun 2004 14:04:31 +0000 Received: (qmail 8792 invoked from network); Thu, 03 Jun 2004 14:04:30 +0000 Date: Thu, 03 Jun 2004 10:06:48 -0400 From: sander-martijn <xxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] + Speak and Spell/ CapitalMUTEK/Interactive 04 In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_8x5svsv+/xVwhh5AQpxZiw)" X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; en-US; rv:1.7b) Gecko/20040316 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> <BCE414D7.12E54%xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_8x5svsv+/xVwhh5AQpxZiw) Content-Type: text/plain; Charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit nothing as exciting as that - just a typo. try it without the extra colon: http://www.zed.cbc.ca/mutek john saylor wrote: >hi > >( 04.06.02 23:35 -0400 ) tobias c. van Veen: > > >> http:://www.zed.cbc.ca/mutek >> >> > >this gets redirected to www.microsoft.com [and i don't see any upload >links on the page ...]. > >hacked? >mis-configured? >conceptual parody? > > > --Boundary_(ID_8x5svsv+/xVwhh5AQpxZiw)-- From ???@??? Thu Jun 3 14:04:10 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30479-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.42]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 03 Jun 2004 10:04:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 03 Jun 2004 10:05:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 10805 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 03 Jun 2004 14:05:55 +0000 Received: (qmail 10795 invoked from network); Thu, 03 Jun 2004 14:05:55 +0000 Date: Thu, 03 Jun 2004 16:05:52 +0200 From: Arie van Schutterhoef <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] + Speak and Spell/ CapitalMUTEK/Interactive 04 In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <l03130301bce4e0436853@[213.84.105.55]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <BCE414D7.12E54%xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> <BCE414D7.12E54%xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> http:://www.zed.cbc.ca/mutek >this gets redirected to www.microsoft.com [and i don't see any upload >links on the page ...]. >hacked? >mis-configured? >conceptual parody? -Just a 'typo', one ':' too much after the 'http', before the '/'. More succesfully: http://www.zed.cbc.ca/mutek Avs . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ...................................................................... ` |Schreck Ensemble . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . + ` |# -laboratory for live electro-acoustic music- # | | http://www.schreck.nl/ | | http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/ | ` *===========================================================++ ` |Compositions http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/compo.html | ` |Samples http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/samp.html | ` |Patches http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/pat.html | ` |Videos http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/video.html | ` |Scores http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/scores.html | *===========================================================++ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ...................................................................... --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Jun 3 14:03:17 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30478-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.42]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 03 Jun 2004 10:03:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 03 Jun 2004 10:05:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 9678 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 03 Jun 2004 14:05:01 +0000 Received: (qmail 9648 invoked from network); Thu, 03 Jun 2004 14:05:00 +0000 Date: Thu, 03 Jun 2004 07:04:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Phil Thomson <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] + Speak and Spell/ CapitalMUTEK/Interactive 04 In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Message-id: <xxxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxx.xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.2 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> <BCE414D7.12E54%xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx try here: http://www.zed.cbc.ca/mutek One too many ":" in the original URL (see below). P > hi > > ( 04.06.02 23:35 -0400 ) tobias c. van Veen: >> http:://www.zed.cbc.ca/mutek > > this gets redirected to www.microsoft.com [and i don't see any upload > links on the page ...]. > > hacked? > mis-configured? > conceptual parody? > > -- > \js $ [|$ ~&`]+ ~@ > =========== Phil Thomson home: http://www.sfu.ca/~pthomson/ label: http://www.centibel.org/ =========== --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Jun 3 09:07:46 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30475-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.70]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 03 Jun 2004 05:07:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 03 Jun 2004 05:09:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 33041 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 03 Jun 2004 09:09:35 +0000 Received: (qmail 33031 invoked from network); Thu, 03 Jun 2004 09:09:35 +0000 Date: Thu, 03 Jun 2004 11:10:19 +0200 From: underscan <xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] MUTEK webcast To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>, xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.618) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Provags-ID: kundenserver.de xxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xx auth:4a4b2770435051328542809f1368b6ea X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx hi does anyone know where to find the webcast mentioned in the popup at mutek.ca couldn´t find anything... (not even on piratetv.net) cheerz mark --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Jun 3 03:35:52 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30474-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.72]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 02 Jun 2004 23:35:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 02 Jun 2004 23:37:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 52028 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 03 Jun 2004 03:37:40 +0000 Received: (qmail 52018 invoked from network); Thu, 03 Jun 2004 03:37:40 +0000 Date: Wed, 02 Jun 2004 23:35:51 -0400 From: "tobias c. van Veen" <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] + Speak and Spell/ CapitalMUTEK/Interactive 04 In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: Microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BCE414D7.12E54%xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.4.030702.0 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx ========= +++++++++++ CapitalMUTEK : SPEAK 'N SPELL +++ ================ What? - upload your input: http:://www.zed.cbc.ca/mutek - when? RIGHT NOW. - where? FROM ANYWHERE . we are also @ the festival.. look out for the freaks w/ DV cams + the ZeD table - why? SPEAK AND SPELL. - who? brought to you by Capital Interactive and ZeD TV of the CBC http://www.capitalmag.com http://www.zed.cbc.ca ++ the detailz: So over the past month or so there has been a lot of discussion and planning for the first Capital/MUTEK Interactive this year at MUTEK. Speak and Spell will be a platform for ideas, exchange and documentation of a number of different aspects of the performances, panels, workshops, artists, audience and concepts being brought to the forefront through the Festival. Those around the world are encouraged to get online and check out the festival, the interviews, the shows, and give back their feedback on our online digital web log through ZEDTV at www.zed.cbc.ca/mutek to get involved. As well as commentary, we encourage those online to upload content to this ongoing dialogue, which will all work towards a final creation during the final stages of the festival. As well, on the weekend we will be showing the entire compiled installation as it surfaces on the mutek site at www.mutek.ca. Below is the overall synopsis of the presentation we are doing, and we look forward to everyone out there contributing to the project. Concept Presentation: ŒSpeak and Spell¹ : CapitalMUTEK Interactive: 04. Capital TV, in cooperation with Mutek, NewForms and ZED TV, will set up a local broadcasting network to provide extensive sampling of events, commentary, soundbites and visuals taking place within Ex-Centris the SAT, and Metropolis during the festival. Others filming and recording will be encouraged to participate in this real time installation, that will be uploaded for viewing on zed.cbc.ca and capitalmag.com as soon as each section is finished. Footage shot and produced in the Mutek Workspace and other festival locations will be edited and post-produced in a mobile mini television studio. The stories and reports will be broadcasted online on capitalmag.com, and zed.ca, as well as shown locally on a screen at the Mutek partnering venues once a day if this is a possibility. Capital wants to invite a group of independent producers to come and shoot a series of short video reports and interviews for the Internet. These people can come both from the Capital and NewForms crew as well as local artists interested in participating in the project. Another element of this piece will be a live booth at the S.A.T. where people can email, interact and discuss issues live by uploading these thoughts directly to the zed site. People will be able to come and raise issues, concerns and information about MUTEK, electronic music, culture and politics today and how this effect¹s the art and culture being displayed in the festival. Writings, photos, and any other mediums are encouraged and may be brought forward and converged into the online pieces. At the conclusion of the festival, a video will be cut and available showing the final creations of ŒSpeak and Spell¹ : CapitalMUTEK Interactive: 04. Topics to be discussed: - 'Digital Cultures in the 21C: Music, Video and Beyond' the rise of digital cutlture and media as the present art form it has taken - 'Remixing, Sampling and Stealing -- Stirring Shit Up in Future Media' the effect of electronic ideology on the future of media - POST RAVE self-organization and non-hierarchical forms of public presence - '5 Years of Mutek: Reflections, Refractions, Retractions' group as an event / media in independent modes -production of common - ŒCommons¹ Group Commons, IP Commons, Wireless Commons. - Digging into the Heart of Laptop Performance. dancing to a laptop show, what sitting on the floor at Ex-Centris is like, why people come, how people deal with and interact with this kind of so-called 'faceless' performance: dispelling the myths and showing the warmth found within the scene. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Jun 3 01:20:10 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30473-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.69]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 02 Jun 2004 21:20:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 02 Jun 2004 21:21:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 12299 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 03 Jun 2004 01:21:56 +0000 Received: (qmail 12283 invoked from network); Thu, 03 Jun 2004 01:21:55 +0000 Date: Thu, 03 Jun 2004 03:27:03 +0100 From: jerome joy <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] ARTISTS SUBPOENAED IN USA PATRIOT ACT CASE In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-Sender: xxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxxxx.xxx (Unverified) To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <v04003a06bce43ce11f8f@[81.49.112.141]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx June 2, 2004 FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE Contact: Beatriz da Costa, mailto:xxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx ARTISTS SUBPOENAED IN USA PATRIOT ACT CASE Feds STILL unable to distinguish art from bioterrorism Grand jury to convene June 15 HELP URGENTLY NEEDED - SEE BELOW Three artists have been served subpoenas to appear before a federal grand jury that will consider bioterrorism charges against a university professor whose art involves the use of simple biology equipment. The subpoenas are the latest installment in a bizarre investigation in which members of the Joint Terrorism Task Force have mistaken an art project for a biological weapons laboratory (see end for background). While most observers have assumed that the Task Force would realize the absurd error of its initial investigation of Steve Kurtz, the subpoenas indicate that the feds have instead chosen to press their "case" against the baffled professor. Two of the subpoenaed artists--Beatriz da Costa and Steve Barnes--are, like Kurtz, members of the internationally-acclaimed Critical Art Ensemble (CAE), an artists' collective that produces artwork to educate the public about the politics of biotechnology. They were served the subpoenas by federal agents who tailed them to an art show at the Massachusetts Museum of Contemporary Art. The third artist, Paul Vanouse, is, like Kurtz, an art professor at the University at Buffalo. He has worked with CAE in the past. The artists involved are at a loss to explain the increasingly bizarre case. "I have no idea why they're continuing (to investigate)," said Beatriz da Costa, one of those subpoenaed. "It was shocking that this investigation was ever launched. That it is continuing is positively frightening, and shows how vulnerable the PATRIOT Act has made freedom of speech in this country." Da Costa is an art professor at the University of California at Irvine. According to the subpoenas, the FBI is seeking charges under Section 175 of the US Biological Weapons Anti-Terrorism Act of 1989, which has been expanded by the USA PATRIOT Act. As expanded, this law prohibits the possession of "any biological agent, toxin, or delivery system" without the justification of "prophylactic, protective, bona fide research, or other peaceful purpose." (See http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/18/175.html for the 1989 law and http://www.ehrs.upenn.edu/protocols/patriot/sec817.html for its USA PATRIOT Act expansion.) Even under the expanded powers of the USA PATRIOT Act, it is difficult to understand how anyone could view CAE's art as anything other than a "peaceful purpose." The equipment seized by the FBI consisted mainly of CAE's most recent project, a mobile DNA extraction laboratory to test store-bought food for possible contamination by genetically modified grains and organisms; such equipment can be found in any university's basic biology lab and even in many high schools (see "Lab Tour" at http://www.critical-art.net/biotech/free/ for more details). The grand jury in the case is scheduled to convene June 15 in Buffalo, New York. Here, the jury will decide whether or not to indict Steve Kurtz on the charges brought by the FBI. A protest is being planned at 9 a.m. on June 15 outside the courthouse at 138 Delaware Ave. in Buffalo. HELP NEEDED Financial donations: The CAE Defense Fund has so far received over 200 donations in amounts ranging from $5 to $400. This is a wonderful outpouring of sympathy, but a drop in the bucket compared to the potential costs of the case. To make a donation, please visit http://www.caedefensefund.org/ Letters of support: Letters and petitions of support from biologists, artists, and others, especially those in positions of responsibility at prominent institutions or companies, could be very useful. See http://www.caedefensefund.org/ for a sample letter of support. Legal offers and letters of support: If you are a lawyer, offers of pro bono support or offers to write amicus briefs would be very helpful. BACKGROUND Early morning of May 11, Steve Kurtz awoke to find his wife, Hope, dead of a cardiac arrest. Kurtz called 911. The police arrived and, after stumbling across test tubes and petri dishes Kurtz was using in a current artwork, called in the Joint Terrorism Task Force. Soon agents from the Task Force and FBI detained Kurtz, cordoned off the entire block around his house, and later impounded Kurtz's computers, manuscripts, books, equipment, and even his wife's body for further analysis. The Buffalo Health Department condemned the house as a health risk. Only after the Commissioner of Public Health for New York State had tested samples from the home and announced there was no public safety threat was Kurtz able to return home and recover his wife's body. Yet the FBI would not release the impounded materials, which included artwork for an upcoming exhibition at the Massachusetts Museum of Contemporary Art. While most observers assumed the Task Force would realize that its initial investigation of Steve Kurtz was a terrible mistake, the subpoenas indicate that the feds have instead chosen to press their "case" against Kurtz and possibly others. To donate to the CAE Defense Fund, and for up-to-date information on the case, please visit http://www.caedefensefund.org/ For more information on the Critical Art Ensemble, please visit http://www.critical-art.net/ To join a list about the case, please visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CAE_Defense Articles and television stories about the case: http://www.appliedautonomy.com/cae/ http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A8278-2004Jun1.html http://www.newsday.com/news/local/wire/ny-bc-ny--materialsremoved0601jun01,0,353 9235.story?coll=ny-ap-regional-wire http://www.buffalonews.com/editorial/20040602/1048042.asp On advice of counsel, Steve Kurtz is unable to answer questions regarding his case. 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Miércoles. 15:00-16:00. 100.4 Fm www.circulobellasartes.com Radio Autònoma. Martes-Jueves-Sabado. 18:00-19:00 www.uam.es/radio Radio Enlace. Martes. 19:00-20:00. 107.5 Fm. Madrid Contenidos Onda Sonora (Radio Sesiones Experimentales) 02-06-04 01. SUNBURNED HAND OF THE MAN Track: Easy Wind Album: Rare Wood Label: Spirit Of Orr Primer cd del colectivo norteamericano Sunburned Hand Of The Man, procedente de las cercanías de Boston, un colectivo numeroso de hasta 13 miembros que lleva más de ocho años publicando sus trabajos en vinilo y cd-r. Este nuevo disco, al contrario que la opinion de la mayoría de la prensa especializada, nos ha parecido mejor que sus discos más aclamados y contiene 5 cortes, 2 de ellos grabados en directo y 3 en estudio 02. SUNBURNED HAND OF THE MAN Track: Plague Pipe Album: Hoof Trip / Plague Pipe Album: Riot Season Continuaremos escuchando a Sunburned Hand Of The Man, principales representantes del movimiento que la prensa especializada ha bautizado como Free-folk, una concepcion del folklore en sentido amplio que no se basa tanto en el resultado final como en las variadas influencias que conforman el horizonte para creaciones como este single en vinilo en el sello Riot Season 03. DEAD MACHINES Track: 1 Album: Abyss Catastrophes Label: American Tapes Tambien desde norteamericana nos llega lo nuevo del duo ruidista Dead Machines, formado por John Olson de Wolf Eyes y su mujer Tovah O’Rourke 04. DEAD MACHINES Track: Mystery Of The Fall Off Island Part One Album: Mystery Of The Fall Off Island Part One Label: American Tapes Otra novedad de Dead Machines tambien desde American Tapes. Estas dos novedades del duo sonarán mezcladas 05. WOLF EYES Track: Rat Floods Album: Stabbed In The Face Label: Sub Pop Escultores de ruido desde Michigan, otro de los clásicos de American Tapes, aunque este mismo verano lanzarán un album sorprendentemente en el sello Sub-pop. Este es uno de los tres cortes incluidos en el single de adelanto de Burned Mind 06. MITCHELL AKIYAMA Track: Try To Conceal Album: If Night Is A Weed And Day Grows Less Label: Sub Rosa Nuevo album desde Montreal de uno de los principales artistas digitales de nuestros dias, el canadiense Mitchell Akiyama que retorna con su cuarto album en solitario para el sello belga Sub Rosa 07. MITCHELL AKIYAMA Track: Wonder Coma Album: Many Things Worth Living For Label: Thinner / Autoplate Otro tema de Mitchell Akiyama, pero en este caso con un corte incluido en el recopilatorio Many Things Worth Living For, un disco editado por Autoplate, division del sello aleman Thinner dedicada a la publicacion gratuita via internet de electronica experimental. Junto al propio Akiyama el album se completa con artistas como Osso Bucco o Flim, entre otros 08. ICARUS Track: Antz Nez Album: Tweet The Birdy Electric Label: Leaf Nuevo trabajo de los londinenses Icarus en el sello Leaf, abandonando la parte más predecible de su música una vez encontrado el camino que supera su devoción por Autechre 09. LOSCIL Track: Sickbay Album: First Narrows Label: Kranky Despues de su ultima contribucion a la ultima compilacion de electronica experimental canadiense que publicaba hace unos meses Intr_version, Scott Morgan, aka Loscil, retorna con un nuevo album, el tercero en su carrera y el primero para el que utiliza insrumentos reales junto a los habituales procesos de sintesis por ordenador 10. BRENT GUTZEIT Track: Piano Motor Skills Album: Drug Money Label: Kranky Otra novedad del sello de Chicago, Kranky. Ultimo trabajo en solitario de Brent Gutzeit despues de su colaboracion con James Plotkin de 1997, sin embargo aunque este disco ha llegado a nuestras manos a traves de Kranky llevaba ya algun tiempo publicado en cd-r a través del sello del propio Brent Gutzeit, Box Media, un disco cuyos sonidos fueron creados colocando motores electricos en las cuerdas de un piano English Version Contents Onda Sonora (Experimental Radio Sessions) 02-06-04 01. SUNBURNED HAND OF THE MAN Track: Easy Wind Album: Rare Wood Label: Spirit Of Orr In our imaginary cover, American collective Sunburned Hand of the Man, coming from Boston boundaries. The numerous collective (thirteen members) has been releasing their works in vinyl and CD-R for almost eight years. This is the first CD release in their history: Rare Wood, a consolidation of their ideas about music in five tracks 02. SUNBURNED HAND OF THE MAN Track: Plague Pipe Album: Hoof Trip / Plague Pipe Album: Riot Season Sunburned Hand of the Man are the main representatives of a movement named free-folk by the specialized press, a wide conception not so based in the final folkloric result as in the diverse ideas and chosen influences that conform the horizon for creations such as this vinyl single in the Riot Season label 03. DEAD MACHINES Track: 1 Album: Abyss Catastrophes Label: American Tapes Still in North America, where we will stay for almost the whole session. From Michigan state, Dead Machines is the side-project of Wolf Eyes’ John Olson and his wife Tovah O’Rourke 04. DEAD MACHINES Track: Mystery Of The Fall Off Island Part One Album: Mystery Of The Fall Off Island Part One Label: American Tapes We will listen to both Dead Machines CD-Rs together, mixed into one, thanks to one of the limited copies of the American Tapes’ new releases 05. WOLF EYES Track: Rat Floods Album: Stabbed In The Face Label: Sub Pop Another classics in American Tapes: Michigan noise sculptors Wolf Eyes, with an advance of what will be their new album on Sub Pop this summer 06. MITCHELL AKIYAMA Track: Try To Conceal Album: If Night Is A Weed And Day Grows Less Label: Sub Rosa We cross the lakes to listen, from Montreal, to one of the most important artists in contemporary digital electronica, Mitchell Akiyama, returning with his fourth solo album, this time for Belgian label Sub Rosa 07. MITCHELL AKIYAMA Track: Wonder Coma Album: Many Things Worth Living Label: Thinner This track by Mitchell Akiyama is included in a compilation by Autoplate, a division of the German net-label Thinner, dedicated to the free distribution of electronic music. Besides Mitchell Akiyama, the album is completed with tracks by Osso Bucco, Flim and some more musicians, more or less involved in the label’s activities 08. ICARUS Track: Antz Nez Album: Tweet The Birdy Electric Label: Leaf New work of London duo Icarus in the Leaf label, definitely abandoned the most predictable part of their music after overcoming their devotion for Autechre 09. LOSCIL Track: Sickbay Album: First Narrows Label: Kranky After his contribution to the last compilation of Canadian experimental electronica on Intr_version, Scott Morgan returns with a new album for Kranky, the third in his career but the first using real instrumentation along with the habitual computer-synthesis processes 10. BRENT GUTZEIT Track: Piano Motor Skills Album: Drug Money Label: Kranky Another release on Kranky to close today’s session, after last week’s Keith Fullerton Whitman and Strategy releases. This album was created placing electric motors on piano strings and was originally released on Brent Gutzeit’s own label Boxmedia Nota: Este correo no ha sido solicitado, pero hemos considerado que te podría interesar. 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Wed Jun 2 21:36:48 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30470-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.68]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 02 Jun 2004 17:36:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 02 Jun 2004 17:38:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 48960 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 02 Jun 2004 21:38:31 +0000 Received: (qmail 48949 invoked from network); Wed, 02 Jun 2004 21:38:31 +0000 Date: Wed, 02 Jun 2004 22:37:00 +0100 From: David Newman <xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx.xx> Subject: [microsound] Audiobulb > June News > 4 microsound To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <008801c448e9$f0404460$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_ION+FvoCtZuIGztGIo8s7w)" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_ION+FvoCtZuIGztGIo8s7w) Content-Type: text/plain; Charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit M>I>C>R>O>S>O>U>N>D> June 2004: News & happenings from the Audiobulb Crew :: New Audiobulb Artists: We extremely pleased to welcome two new artists into our fold :::: Taavi Tulev :: An artist from Estonia - Europe. Taavi brings a refined sonic palette to audiobulb - capable of moving expertly between serene ambience, sub-beat glitch, and heart straining melodies. Another Electronic Musician :: Known to many as 'aem' this US artist is already known within the electronic music scene for his vibrant live shows and net-audio mp3 releases. AEM brings solid exploratory IDM beat structure and melodic play - compliments and contrasting with our artists Bllix, Prhizzm & Diagram of Suburban Chaos. Look out for new random releases on the audiobulb site from these two artist in the coming months. Switches is Reviewed: Switches has received more excellent reviews - to read the critics opinion visit: THE MILK FACTORY http://www.themilkfactory.co.uk/reviews_express/0406.htm#4 ELECTROMEDA http://www.electromeda.net/audio/reviews/abulb_switches.html ELECTRONIC MUSIC http://www.electronicmusic.com/review/5539.html STYLUS MAGAZINE http://www.stylusmagazine.com/feature.php?ID=1013 WAKING LIMB http://www.wakinglimb.com/music/albumsa4.htm SONOMU http://sonomu.net/release/~switches/#switchescd COUNTER CULTURE http://www.counterculture.co.uk/album-review/various-switches.html ELECTRONIC BRASIL http://www.eletronicbrasil.com.br/ Switches on the Radio: Tracks from switches have been picked up by a number of pioneering radio stations including: KUCI 2004 :: AUDIO ARCHIVE MP3 + STREAM: http://digitalnimbus.net/archive http://digitalnimbus.net/archive/may_2004/digitalnimbus_99.mp3 The Sonic Equivalent :: WRCT Pittsburgh 88.3FM http://wrct.org Chicago on 89.3fm WNUR: HeadTheater http://orion.it.luc.edu/~njurcin/hed.htm Static Beats radio http://www.staticbeats.com/modules.php?name=Webcast_Update&sop=printpage&artid=29 Market Research: many thanks to those of you who partcipated in our market research > telling us what you think about the label, the music and the demand for future albums. Diagram of Suburban Chaos seems to be a popular choice for many of you in term sof a single album release > there were also many calls for He Can Jog, Autistici and Build. Ultimately all the artists were endorsed illustrating that the breadth of talent here satisfies different people atdifferent times. What next ::::? Audiobulb is working on the next compilation CD > 1 Audiobulb is planning to release installation #2 onsite > 2 Audiobulb is expecting reviews of switches in some of the major paper magazines > 3 Audiobulb is working with cargorecords to distribute cd's to shops > 4 Audiobulb is expecting to release new VSTs & VSTi's in the coming months > 5 Until next Time: Keep spreading the word about us and all good electronic music :: Support your independent electronic music labels > Shop @ audiobulb http://www.audiobulb.com/shop.htm Audiobulb Records www.audiobulb.com --Boundary_(ID_ION+FvoCtZuIGztGIo8s7w)-- From ???@??? Wed Jun 2 18:21:25 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30469-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.75]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 02 Jun 2004 14:21:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 02 Jun 2004 14:23:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 83409 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 02 Jun 2004 18:23:11 +0000 Received: (qmail 83399 invoked from network); Wed, 02 Jun 2004 18:23:10 +0000 Date: Wed, 02 Jun 2004 11:23:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Matt Davignon <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Joe Colley & Michael Gendreau at Luggage Store Gallery To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx Thursday, Jun 3 2004 8:00 PM Luggage Store Gallery New Music Series 1007 Market St. @ 6th Street San Francisco $6-10 Joe Colley + Michael Gendreau Joe Colley (b.1972 Ft. Lauderdale) is a self taught artist concerned primarily with the phenomena of sound and it's unique ability to activate a consciousness set apart from rational understanding in a way very different from visual or verbal means. This consuming interest has led to extensive experimentation with results occasionally made public through performances, installations, and commercially available recordings. These experiments have encompassed abstract electronic composition, amplification of natural phenomena, investigations into phase, and creation of complex mass from layers of simplistic sound material. Growing up in California's central valley, Colley has travelled widely making field recordings and researching various cultures with a focus on ritual musics and the art of the insane. Michael GENDREAU was born en Californie (1961). A musician since age 6, Gendreau went along to work with several group organizations, culminating in Crawling With Tarts (1983 – 1998), and using this group as a medium (along with the various uses made of it by co-founder Suzanne Dycus) for work in elementalism, attention to temporal and environmental persistence, and eventually, applications of parataxis. These final studies included the use of small motors and turntable mechanisms, mostly performing with one-off transcription discs cast by others in the middle of the last century, or cut in Gendreau’s studio using a decrepit lathe. More recently, in composition and performance, Gendreau has sought to enlarge these later studies, adding physical parameters of performance spaces (as a point of reference, based on studies in physics completed in 1989 and current work as an acoustician—primarily working on low-vibration design in buildings and noise impact to optical research apparatus in the infrasonic to audible frequency range) as a language within the paratactic structures that form his compositions. Every Thursday, Outsound and Detritus.net present unusual, experimental and improvised music at the Luggage Store Gallery in San Francisco. Located downtown, it's the longest running series of its kind in the Bay Area. Indoor bicycle parking is available, and we don't mind if you bring in outside food and non-alcoholic drink. (Taqueria Cancun is next door!) 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Wed Jun 2 17:02:36 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30468-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.42]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 02 Jun 2004 13:02:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 02 Jun 2004 13:04:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 50640 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 02 Jun 2004 17:04:21 +0000 Received: (qmail 50630 invoked from network); Wed, 02 Jun 2004 17:04:21 +0000 Date: Wed, 02 Jun 2004 10:04:19 -0700 From: D Jean Hester <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] 6/11 - INTERCHANGE 2: An Evening of Interactive Performance & Installation X-Originating-IP: [137.78.69.48] X-Sender: xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Bcc: Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Originating-Email: [xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Jun 2004 17:04:19.0509 (UTC) FILETIME=[A4DE9650:01C448C3] "INTERCHANGE 2": An Evening of Interactive Music/Sound/Video Performance & Installation Friday, June 11, 2003 Los Angeles, CA Music ~ Sound ~ Video ~ Installation ~ Featuring Audience Interactivity http://www.divestudio.org/interchange2/index.php // Who: // Southern California established and emerging sound artists, musicians, installation and video artists. Curated by D. Jean Hester. Performances & Installations by: __Akira Rabelais - http://www.akirarabelais.com __Rise Industries (Jeremy Quinn & Michele Jaquis) - http://www.rise-ind.com/ __Adam Overton - http://www.calarts.edu/~aoverton __Civyiu Kkliu __David Kendall - http://www.calarts.edu/~dkendall/home.html __Liam Mooney - http://www.liammooney.com __Robert Drummond - http://www.robertdrummond.com/ __D. Jean Hester - http://www.divestudio.org __Ever Lovely Lightning Heart (Faith Coloccia, Chris Badger, Kate Stewart) Hosted by Gallery 825/LAAA // What: // An evening of interactive music/sound/video performances and installations. This is the second “Interchange” event in what promises to become a recurring series. “Interchange 2” is something very different from the usual music performance or art show, challenging the notion that art and performance are things to be merely watched by an audience. Instead, the audience plays a vital role in the event. Each work engages the audience to interact, participate or contribute to the creation and experience of the art. // When: // Friday, June 11, 2003 Doors open at 7:30 Performances begin at 8:00 Installations can be viewed before and after the performances, and during intermission. // Tickets: // $5 for 825 Members and Students with valid Student ID / $10 General Admission Tickets available at the door. // Where:// Gallery 825 825 La Cienega Blvd, Los Angeles Street Parking - Valet Parking also available http://www.laaa.org/ // For More Info: // Contact the Curator: D. Jean Hester xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx http://www.divestudio.org/interchange2/index.php -- D. Jean Hester UPCOMING 6/11/04: Interchange 2 - an evening of interactive performance & installation http://www.divestudio.org/interchange2/index.php Interviewer: "Must an artist be a programmer to make truly original online art?" John Simon: "Truly original? You Modernist! Whether you make art or not, understanding programming is an amazing understanding." from "Code as Creative Writing: An Interview with John Simon" --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Jun 2 15:27:36 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30466-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.42]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 02 Jun 2004 11:27:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 02 Jun 2004 11:29:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 20004 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 02 Jun 2004 15:29:20 +0000 Received: (qmail 19994 invoked from network); Wed, 02 Jun 2004 15:29:20 +0000 Date: Wed, 02 Jun 2004 08:28:54 -0700 From: "j.frede" <xxxxxx@xxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] sound of the Big Bang To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>, xxxxxxxxx-xxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx, xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <008e01c448b6$54262410$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 Content-type: multipart/related; type="text/plain"; boundary="Boundary_(ID_9ibMoI6OqwLqnzfqzqtERg)" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxx-xxxxxx-xx@xxxxxxx.xxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_9ibMoI6OqwLqnzfqzqtERg) Content-Type: text/plain; Charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit http://www.cnn.com/2004/TECH/space/06/02/primal.scream/index.html DENVER, Colorado (SPACE.com) -- An astronomer has turned observations of the early universe into a sound clip that represents a primal scream from the first million years after the Big Bang. --Boundary_(ID_9ibMoI6OqwLqnzfqzqtERg)-- From ???@??? Wed Jun 2 12:18:13 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30465-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.75]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 02 Jun 2004 08:18:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 02 Jun 2004 08:19:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 69811 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 02 Jun 2004 12:19:54 +0000 Received: (qmail 69060 invoked from network); Wed, 02 Jun 2004 12:19:25 +0000 Date: Wed, 02 Jun 2004 15:19:21 +0300 From: Andrey Kiritchenko <xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] [spam] new mp3 release on Nexsound In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-Originating-IP: unknown via proxy unknown.teleportsv.net [80.249.229.86] X-Scanner: exiscan for exim4 (http://duncanthrax.net/exiscan/) *1BVUiH-000OVT-00*BdvwAVgzwVo* To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: Andrey Kiritchenko <xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxx-xxxxxx-xx@xxxxxxx.xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: mPOP Web-Mail 2.19 Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Boundary_(ID_RexvqnAksnb1eyC82qNr9A)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_RexvqnAksnb1eyC82qNr9A) Content-Type: text/plain; Charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi - Tirriddiliu - deliranti in circostanze astratte - [mp3] "Tirriddiliu" is a word in a sicilian dialect for a very bad, hyper-active child, which destroys everything (a little bastard). This name is quite appropriate for a project of Dario Sanfilippo, a young Italian experimental artist. Actually this thing is not meant to be the music to sleep by, more likely you may need to set this on your alarm clock to fresh yourself up in the early morning. But be aware, this album probably couldn't tune you in the right way to work okay in your office. "Deliranti in circostanze astratte" by Tirriddiliu is maybe, in some way, a follower of plunderphonic music or even free jazz in digital means - nobody knows... No repetitions, no loops, not even one obvious turn of the composition. Only massive flow of pure splintered, sliced and then glued in a crazy way sound. Album title means "raving in abstract circumstances". http://www.nexsound.org/ns25.html - .. - + , , .. +++> - environmental music : http://www.nexsound.org --Boundary_(ID_RexvqnAksnb1eyC82qNr9A) Content-Type: text/plain; Charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org --Boundary_(ID_RexvqnAksnb1eyC82qNr9A)-- From ???@??? Wed Jun 2 04:13:16 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30464-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.69]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 02 Jun 2004 00:13:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 02 Jun 2004 00:15:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 63329 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 02 Jun 2004 04:15:03 +0000 Received: (qmail 63319 invoked from network); Wed, 02 Jun 2004 04:15:02 +0000 Date: Wed, 02 Jun 2004 00:10:42 -0400 From: michael trommer <xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] mutek/paypal? In-reply-to: <l03130304bce2afef74b0@[213.84.105.55]> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BCE2CB82.1F45%xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx ??????????????? >> what gives? i bought two tix earlier this week using paypal and now it >> looks like that option is no longer available? also, is it just me, or >> the new mutek website the most poorly organized disasterous site ever, >> especially considering how great the design of programs and posters are? >> it can't possibly be the same company that does both of their design >> work, can it? > -Perhaps: > "$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ > $$ > $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ > $$ > $" > > AvS --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Jun 2 01:40:50 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30463-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.72]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 01 Jun 2004 21:40:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 01 Jun 2004 21:42:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 8922 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 02 Jun 2004 01:42:35 +0000 Received: (qmail 8910 invoked from network); Wed, 02 Jun 2004 01:42:34 +0000 Date: Wed, 02 Jun 2004 02:19:19 +0100 From: sirr <xxxx-xxxxxx@xxxx-xxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Performance by: O.BLAAT [KEIKO UENISHI] + PAULO RAPOSO + VITOR JOAQUIM To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>, list <xxxx-xxxxxx@xxxx-xxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BCE2E9A7.AB0E%xxxx-xxxxxx@xxxx-xxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.0.0.1309 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx ..........[ .........[e n t r E M E S # 4 .........[ .........[June 2, Wednesday, 21:30 .........[ .........[FORUM LUISA TODI . black-box, Avenue Luisa Todi.Setúbal.pt .........[ .........[O.blaat [KEIKO UENISHI] - PAULO RAPOSO - VITOR JOAQUIM .........[ .........[ live performances ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.pinknoises.com/oblaat.shtml http://www.sirr-ecords.com/pauloraposo http://joaquim.emf.org/EME/EME.entrEMES_04.htm ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- .........[ www.sirr-ecords.com ] [www.granular.fm] .........[ .........[next events .........[ .........[03.06 o.blaat / Ok.Suitcase, ZDB, Lisboa.pt .........[04.06 o.blaat / Beat_Map hdj, Aniki Bóbó, Porto.pt .........[05.06 André Gonçalves & Paulo Raposo, CEM, Lisboa.pt .........[06.06 Pedro Tudela, Miguel Carvalhais, Return, Vitor Joaquim, Paulo Raposo, O.Blaat, Lia Birthday Party, Casa de Serralves, Porto.pt .........[12.06 @c (visuals by Lia) + Paulo Raposo, Casa dos Dias d'Água, Lisboa.pt ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://lia.sil.at http://www.cronicaelectronica.org/ http://virose.pt/tudela/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Jun 1 23:08:03 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30462-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.69]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 01 Jun 2004 19:08:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 01 Jun 2004 19:09:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 59859 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 01 Jun 2004 23:09:48 +0000 Received: (qmail 59849 invoked from network); Tue, 01 Jun 2004 23:09:48 +0000 Date: Wed, 02 Jun 2004 01:09:42 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22e=2Eg=2E=F8=22?= <xxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Powerplay "electrons libres" In-reply-to: <xxxxxxx.xxx.xxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxx.xx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxx.xxx.xxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxx.xx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx I adore playlists and I found them very useful... but... could you please add the word playlist in the subject of these kind of posts? So my email filters will start to work a bit... :) hugs e. bastien remion wrote: > Hello everybody all the microsounder's...Como allez-vous??? > -- ...: e.g.ø Enrico Glerean ..:. http://www.egzero.org ________________________________ ..:: tel: +39 338 2343691 (Italy) :.. e-mail: xx@xxxxxx.xxx --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Jun 1 23:01:32 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30461-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.78]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 01 Jun 2004 19:01:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 01 Jun 2004 19:03:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 57656 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 01 Jun 2004 23:03:17 +0000 Received: (qmail 57645 invoked from network); Tue, 01 Jun 2004 23:03:17 +0000 Date: Tue, 01 Jun 2004 19:00:05 -0400 From: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx Subject: Re: [microsound] Percussion Lab To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <005101c4482c$2dff8d60$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx.xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxx.xxx.xxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxx.xx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx hello... i'd be interested in doing something... i will be in nyc wednesday june 3o & thursday july 1... i have a show at the lucky cat in williamsburg 7-1o pm on wednesday, june 3oth... but so far thursday is open... here are some links about my work... thanx... ~will soderberg http://white-rose.net/shows.shtml upcoming & recent shows http://white-rose.net/sounds.html catalog, real media samples http://www.existentialista.com/~uforika/ mp3s p.s. i also have tracks on most of the microsound.org projects... ~w ----- Original Message ----- From: "Praveen Sharma" <xxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> To: "microsound" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 5:43 PM Subject: [microsound] Percussion Lab > Hello everyone! My name is praveen, i have releases out and due out on > expanding records, neo ouija and ai records- I also run a radio show > here in NY called "Percussion Lab". > > The live show is on friday nights, but at all other times, we are > streaming 24/7 via http://www.percussionlab.com > > We play a mixture of glitch, ambient, electronic, idm and hip hop and > everything in between. > > If any artists on this list are interested in doing a featured set for > the show or even just submitting tracks to be added to the 24/7 > streaming playlist, please let me know! > > best, > praveen > http://www.percussionlab.com > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Jun 1 22:12:34 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30460-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.70]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 01 Jun 2004 18:12:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 01 Jun 2004 18:14:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 39906 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 01 Jun 2004 22:14:19 +0000 Received: (qmail 39896 invoked from network); Tue, 01 Jun 2004 22:14:18 +0000 Date: Wed, 02 Jun 2004 00:14:14 +0200 From: Arie van Schutterhoef <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] mutek/paypal? In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <l03130304bce2afef74b0@[213.84.105.55]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx >what gives? i bought two tix earlier this week using paypal and now it >looks like that option is no longer available? also, is it just me, or >the new mutek website the most poorly organized disasterous site ever, >especially considering how great the design of programs and posters are? >it can't possibly be the same company that does both of their design >work, can it? -Perhaps: "$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ $" AvS . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ...................................................................... ` |Schreck Ensemble . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . + ` |# -laboratory for live electro-acoustic music- # | | http://www.schreck.nl/ | | http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/ | ` *===========================================================++ ` |Compositions http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/compo.html | ` |Samples http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/samp.html | ` |Patches http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/pat.html | ` |Videos http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/video.html | ` |Scores http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/scores.html | *===========================================================++ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ...................................................................... --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Jun 1 22:10:20 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30459-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.42]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 01 Jun 2004 18:10:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 01 Jun 2004 18:12:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 38413 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 01 Jun 2004 22:12:05 +0000 Received: (qmail 38403 invoked from network); Tue, 01 Jun 2004 22:12:05 +0000 Date: Tue, 01 Jun 2004 18:13:42 -0400 From: graham miller <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] mutek/paypal? To: Microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73C-SYMPA (Macintosh; U; PPC) Content-type: text/plain; x-mac-creator=4D4F5353; x-mac-type=54455854; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en,fr-CA Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx what gives? i bought two tix earlier this week using paypal and now it looks like that option is no longer available? also, is it just me, or the new mutek website the most poorly organized disasterous site ever, especially considering how great the design of programs and posters are? it can't possibly be the same company that does both of their design work, can it? anyway, looking forward to mutek!!! plastik g. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Jun 1 21:41:58 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30458-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.67]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 01 Jun 2004 17:41:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 01 Jun 2004 17:43:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 28172 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 01 Jun 2004 21:43:42 +0000 Received: (qmail 28153 invoked from network); Tue, 01 Jun 2004 21:43:42 +0000 Date: Tue, 01 Jun 2004 17:43:36 -0400 From: Praveen Sharma <xxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Percussion Lab In-reply-to: <xxxxxxx.xxx.xxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxx.xx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.618) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxx.xxx.xxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxx.xx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx Hello everyone! My name is praveen, i have releases out and due out on expanding records, neo ouija and ai records- I also run a radio show here in NY called "Percussion Lab". The live show is on friday nights, but at all other times, we are streaming 24/7 via http://www.percussionlab.com We play a mixture of glitch, ambient, electronic, idm and hip hop and everything in between. If any artists on this list are interested in doing a featured set for the show or even just submitting tracks to be added to the 24/7 streaming playlist, please let me know! best, praveen http://www.percussionlab.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Jun 1 20:53:04 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30457-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.69]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 01 Jun 2004 16:53:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 01 Jun 2004 16:54:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 11314 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 01 Jun 2004 20:54:43 +0000 Received: (qmail 11303 invoked from network); Tue, 01 Jun 2004 20:54:42 +0000 Date: Tue, 01 Jun 2004 22:50:12 +0200 From: bastien remion <xxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] Powerplay "electrons libres" To: Forum <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxx.xxx.xxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: YAM 2.4p1 [020] AmigaOS E-mail Client (c) 2000-2003 by YAM Open Source Team - http://www.yam.ch/ Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx Hello everybody all the microsounder's...Como allez-vous??? WELCOME TO THE ELECTRONS LIBRES AND FUTURE (re)<MIX NEWSLETTER -----------------------------------ELECTRONS----------------- ---------------LIBRES------------------------------------ --------------------POWERPLAY ----------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------- ELECTRONS LIBRES IS BACK FOR ALL THE SUMMER DAY... ALL JULY/AUGUST SUNDAY!!! Thanks!!! -------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------FUTURE (re)MIX------------------ +++++++++-----13h/16h---------------01/05/04******-----+-+-+++- ------------------------------------------- Check it the may playlist @ http://www.radiobeton.com With ARNO N'JOY in da mix!!! Intro by Yotoko (Delsin records, Rushhour) 1-Clouddead: Dead Dogs two (Mush, Big Dada) -"Dead dogs two" ep 2-Bogdan Raczynski: They are many things I don't understand (Rephlex, La Baleine) -V/A "Rephlexions" 3-Wagon Christ:Bend over (Ninja Tune, Pias) -V/A "Zen retro" 4-Dabrye feat Phat Kat: Game Over (Ghostly) -Game Over ep 5-Slum Village:Do you feat MC Breed (Barak records, Capitol) -Album "Detroit Deli" 6-Mr Magic [1981] (Stones Throw, Pias) -V/A "Connecticut Hip-Hop 79-83" 7-Mocky:Mickey Mouse Motherfucka (Four Music, V2) -Album "Are+be" 8-Gangpol Und Mit: Le cowboy Kidult (Autoprod, Mange Disque) -Album "Disque compact..." 9-Theo Parrish: Walking Throught the sky (Sound Signature-98) -Roots revisited ep 10-New century Soul (Low pressings 04-1997) -Solo Moments ep 11-Marl Mingus:6 mouth earlier (F.Com) -6 Mouth Earlier ep 12-Jori Hulkkonen: Fermi Paradox (F.Com) -Ep "a letter from cardassia" 13-Mathew Jonson:Magic Thought music (Itiswhatitis records) -Typerope ep 14-Olivier Hacke:Get Down (Trapez 12) 15-Scape One:Platonic (Affected music) -The 1st Diversion ep 16-Smath TV:Intruder (B.Pitch control) -Album "Bits for Breakfast" 17-Richard Bartz:Keep on (Gigolo) -Album "Midnight man" 18-Recon:Va/Lov+ (Hightpointlowlife) -Album "White label" 19-Mr OIZo: 1$44 (F.Com) -ep "Stunt" release le 14 juin ARNO N'JOY IN DA MIX WORLWIDE!!! Pt1: 1-Antonelli Elect. : Waiting for you (Italic, La Baleine) -Lp "Love and other solutions" 2-BGp: Wha...Kiddin (Dessous 43) 3-Luke Vibert: I love Acid (Warp) 4-James Brown:Funky Drummer 5-Liquid Liquid:Cavern (Sony Japan-1981) 6-Spektrum:Country lips (Playhouse) -Album "Enter the Spektrum" 7-Miguel Migs:Come On (Bump deluxe mix-Om record) 8-Inverse Cinematics:Shoot the pianist (Fluid Ounce) 9-John Shananigans:Charlie's on the Dancefloor (Cynosure 09) Pt2: 1-Four Tet: My angel Rock backs and forth (Domino, Pias) -Lp "Rounds" 2-Carl Craig: At les (Planet E-1997) -Lp "More songs about food and revolutionnary art" 3-Souichiro Masutomi:Swing (M.A Citysport 06) 4-The Rip-Off Artist: Sizzle Spot (Vertical Form, La Baleine) -Album "Pet Sounds" 5-Misc:The Magic Number (Sender 034) 6-Luciano & Phil Quenum:Orange Mistake (Candenza) 7-Maurizio:M6 (Basic Channel-1995) 8-ADJD:Getting Closer (Poker Flat 42) 9-Carl Finlow:Anomaly (Device records) -Lp "Electrilogy" For your Mind & your feet: 2/06 ddamage / language computer / la veuve electro / bias (batofar) 4/06 luke slater / al ferox (rex club) 4/06 gangpol und mit / wet (iym) / kap bambino & khima france / feadz (nouveau casino) 4/06 marcus schmickler (voutes) 6/06 miniboum (after maximal) 6h00-12h princess lea, dinah bird, fj look, dark farmer (swayzak), alex et laetitia (katapult) dans le chill out festivals a ne pas rater : 28/05-31/05 le placard 7 est maintenant ouvert - premiere session parisiene de 72h se deroulera a point p avant les travaux http://placard7.ath.cx 2/06-6/06 mutek montreal : http://www.mutek.ca 3/06-5/06 synch athenes http://www.synch.gr 17/06-19/06 narso barcelone http://sonar.es 1/07-3/07 offf http://www.offf.ws 2/07 et 11/07 siestes electroniques (toulouse) http://www.les-siestes-electroniques.com Heee ya.... 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Tue Jun 1 18:24:09 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30456-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.70]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 01 Jun 2004 14:24:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 01 Jun 2004 14:25:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 60081 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 01 Jun 2004 18:25:49 +0000 Received: (qmail 60051 invoked from network); Tue, 01 Jun 2004 18:25:49 +0000 Date: Tue, 01 Jun 2004 14:25:18 -0400 From: Richard Linville <xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Gallery of Computation To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxx.xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_ifYqD3WJW+3AeYdRLST3lg)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_ifYqD3WJW+3AeYdRLST3lg) Content-Type: text/plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I believe that this might be of interest to all http://www.complexification.net/gallery/ peace, Part of Me:Apparatus www.tibprod.com/poma --Boundary_(ID_ifYqD3WJW+3AeYdRLST3lg)-- From ???@??? Tue Jun 1 17:04:57 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30455-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.42]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 01 Jun 2004 13:04:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 01 Jun 2004 13:06:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 14728 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 01 Jun 2004 17:06:40 +0000 Received: (qmail 14718 invoked from network); Tue, 01 Jun 2004 17:06:40 +0000 Date: Tue, 01 Jun 2004 18:06:46 +0100 From: "eric.namour" <xxxx@xxxxxxx.xx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] book In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.618) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Score: -100.0 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx > High praise for: Electronic and Experimental Music, second edition, by > Thom > Holmes. i would surely second that, especially the new edition. You will find many bibliographic resources as well so it can surely be a first go. best e/n http://nosignal.slab.org > -----Original Message----- > From: Andrea Valle [mailto:xxxxx_xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx] > Sent: Saturday, May 29, 2004 2:54 AM > To: microsound > Subject: Re: [microsound] book > > > Electric sound by Joel Chadabe, Prentice Hall (it stops a little before > laptop generation but its really the book if you need infos) > > ciao > -a- > > > On Sabato, mag 29, 2004, at 10:16 Europe/Rome, mic wrote: > >> hi to all, >> i'm looking for a book about electronic music, >> from theremin to laptop generation. >> anyone have some advice? >> thanks - bye >> >> mic >> > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? 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