Re: (idm) music/math/architecture/autechre/classical

From Miau-Miau International
Sent Sat, Feb 6th 1999, 22:19

>        First (description aside)-- mathematics is just one way to
>describe something-- the fact that there are mappable mathematical
>relations that ca be found in music does not mean that math has *anything*
>to do with the music-- otherwise *everything* is math including you,
>whoever you may be (whomever you may be=bad grammar joke:) ).  Finding a
>mathematical system that makes good music is generally fleeting and still
>requires personal recognition, which is a matter of feeling, not
>relations... even if feeling is determined by a system of relations, that
>system is not mathematics, I can promise. 

but....musicians have always used math to describe what they do....
from pythagoras to stockhausen

math doesn't generate music, but it's part of what musicians think about

more math doesn't mean better music....
but it doesn't mean worse music, either

eastern european folk musicians count fast elevens and seventeens
all the time, and their stuff is raw and loose

and someone mentioned john coltrane:
he was well versed in slominsky's modal algorithms....
yet none have rocked harder, before or since