Re: [AH] Arp Odyssey documentation weirdness

From Andrew Horton
Sent Mon, Mar 26th 2018, 16:34

Which filter is the best Odyssey filter? I have the reissue and can't decid=
e.

On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 11:53 AM, Lorne Hammond <xxxxxxxx@xxxx.xx> wrote:
> ahh well. power supply and the keyboard pcb are about stability and that =
is
> tied to tuning. looking at an old ody the next feature is how worn out th=
e
> scratchy sliders are, because if you want to paly those sliders live flui=
d
> smoothness makes a huge difference in "your" sound.
>
> so I sold off a mark I with sliders in poor condition but with the cool
> filter to finance a mint Mark III with road case. The  xlr output was a h=
uge
> improvement in sound (not tone, wimpy filter) for recording.  No regret a=
nd
> buyer got a good karma deal.
>
>
>
> Counting fixes to design flaws you can have a (4012=3D2600 only), 4023 (1=
2 db
> 2 pole, SEM-ish before the sem), 4035 (moog copy), (4072=3D2600) 4075 lim=
ited
> freq response , then 4075 w/resistor fix.  Then custom low/mid/high.
>
> My mark II whose 4035 died was redone by JL at cantos with a filter from =
a
> solus. Lovely and nasty.
>
>
>
> The VCO boards were upgraded not for tone, but for scaling stability, tha=
t
> matters. But you can replace worn trimmers as needed on any board.
>
> The early keyboard pcb influences tuning (not just solos) and the Mark II=
I
> also included a better power supply.
>
>
>
> But the biggest difference is two things, playability for modulation of t=
he
> sliders (and Pedals!! I am huge on the pedals for arps which so many peop=
le
> ignore).
>
> and the filter absolutely.
>
>
>
> If you want to get real weird then there was the 2 voice kit for the
> minimoog (rare) and the Rivera family of mods.
>
> Again the Moog reissue address a lot of these (useful were extra lfo done
> like the Minimoog reissues and my fave adsr positive or negative into VCO=
 3
> for pitchbends that end in tune (fingers crossed).
>
> The worst mini mods were the many failed attempts at preset tunings.
>
>
>
> Lorne
>
>
>
> From: annika morgan [mailto:xxxxxx.x.xxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx]
> Sent: March-26-18 8:21 AM
> To: Lorne Hammond <xxxxxxxx@xxxx.xx>; analogue <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
> Subject: Re: [AH] Arp Odyssey documentation weirdness
>
>
>
> Do the board versions have much impact on the overall sound or is it most=
ly
> in the different filters?
>
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 8:01 AM Lorne Hammond <xxxxxxxx@xxxx.xx> wrote:
>
> my model two had a 4035 filter and rotary pitch and a Mark II keyboard, a
> real mix of boards. They simply used up old boards from the previous mode=
ls
>
> while assembling till the stock was gone.  Any ARP dealer with a tech cou=
ld
> add cv/gate/trigger jacks with the factory kit. As sequencers became more
> common people had that mod done.
>
>
>
> I have a PPC factory kit picked up at VEMIA to change a model from rotary
> knob to PPC (which I like, lots don't, but the best bends are on the top =
of
> the pads not the middle).
>
> So it was unlike a modern model launch, unveiled with all new boards.
>
>
>
> Then to that add old machines coming in for repairs and getting a new boa=
rd
> or filter. Or having that high end filter flaw fixed.
>
>
>
> Within the Model I and even Billy Currie's Model II the MK 1 keyboard pcb
> has the portamento circuit after the two octave switch,
>
> changed to pre in the Mark II (& changes for pitch stability). Currie mad=
e
> great use of that in his solos.
>
>
>
> It is an easter egg in the reissue (that little pen push hole on the far
> right does either). Very cool and deeply thoughtful luxury design.
>
> Currie also played the sine to vco 1 slider a lot in his solos to get tha=
t
> screaming solo, and used a portamento pedal..
>
>
>
> Lorne
>
>
>
> From: annika morgan [mailto:xxxxxx.x.xxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx]
> Sent: March-25-18 9:01 PM
> To: Analogue Heaven AH <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
> Subject: [AH] Arp Odyssey documentation weirdness
>
>
>
> According to the table on this page:
>
> http://www.vintagesynth.com/arp/odyssey.php
>
>
>
> The 2810 Mk II with a rotary pitch knob with 4035 filter did not come wit=
h
> CV.
>
>
>
> But my Odysssey is a 2810 model with a B1 voice board, a 4035 filter, a
> rotary pitch knob AND CV gate/trig.
>
>
>
> So basically the odysssey I own shouldn=E2=80=99t exist according to this=
 table, yet
> it does indeed exist.
>
>
>
> Maybe someone scavenged the 4035 board into it at some point before I
> received it? Be curious to know what kinds of weird board configurations
> there exists out there amongst Arp Odyssey owners. Whatever the case may =
be,
> mine is a weird one for sure.
>
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