From mltsnt Sent Fri, Sep 18th 1998, 02:27
From mltsnt Sent Fri, Sep 18th 1998, 02:27
At 02:46 PM 9/17/98 -0700, eric wrote: >> Hip Hop, with the dj at it's center, will evolve in so many ways, but even >> if you think that turntablism is shit ( which, of course, is an aesthetic/taste >> based right ) the dj and his/her turntable workings, will remain in the >> nucleus. >> >> Educate yourself. Please. > >there used to be a difference between rap and hip-hop, rap being a subset of hip-hop. exactly, but hip hop functions much better as a whole. >there are >three components of hip-hop: rapping/scratching, graffiti, and breakdancing. there are actually FOUR: mc, dj, graf artist, b-boy. (and why is it that the beatbox somehow got pushed out of there? there should be FIVE, dammit, but whatever.) >you can't take the >word of someone who is only familiar with a little piece of the equation and get all bent out of >shape about it. i mean, you CAN, but your time would be better spent revealing the details of >hip-hop beyond i.c.p. Yes, but those involved in ANY of the elements should have at least some respect of the others and the effect. Even nu jack puff daddy skool fans can tell you that the turntable is an essential part of hip hop. And when someone claimes to be 'raised on hip hop', they should have at least a slight bit of knowledge of what they claim to be raised on. The one major complaint I have about so-called 'hip hop headz' is that they have no knowledge of the past. A few years back I had a Busta Rhymes (and the like) fan laugh at me when i named dropped tribe called quest as one of my favorite hip hop acts. Where the fuck would busta be if it wern't for tribe's 'scenerio'?, he definetly wouldn't be on mtv with martha stewart. "Ultramagenetic MCs? Who are they" is another favorite i hear a lot. An artist needs to have a track covered by Puff Daddy or the Def Squad in order to get respect as an 'old-school' artist. Unless, of course, you're run dmc. I mean even most newbie IDMers have a slight knowledge of at least kraftwerk and eno and the like. it just seems to me that if these people truley loved the music that they would do whatever it takes to further their knowledge and expose themselves to as much of thfe scene as possible. to re-quote xxxxx@xxxxxxxx, 'educate yourself'. peeece.mlt.