Re: (idm) sampling thoughts

From Steve81778
Sent Fri, Jun 18th 1999, 18:08

hello everyone...

we live in a post-modern society.  everything you do is referential and/or 
self-referential wether you like it or not.  

luv
steve

In a message dated 99-06-18 10:51:32 EDT, xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx writes:

<< a couple people have recently posted that they're
 not down with sampling/samplers, and i know this 
 debate has been beaten death in every corner of the
 civilized world, (has anyone seen the threads on the
 Akai list about this?  christ almighty!) but i was
 looking for some clarification here...
 is this an across-the-board condemnation of the use
 of a sampler?  i mean, that's what it sounds like 
 when someone says "no sampling allowed."  now i can
 understand (although i dont necessarily agree) when 
 people say 'I think it's bullshit when a sample is
 used instead of the artist actually programming a 
 real live synth' or 'I think it's bullshit when a 
 beat is ripped directly out of a song, sampled, and
 used in a track straight-up, unmodified' and yeah,
 these are uncreative uses of a sampler, but is it 
 against whatever sampling ethics are at work here
 when i take a sample of a kick drum, work it over
 in sound forge for an hour, repeat with a snare,
 hihat, etc, and load them all into my sampler, and
 sequence my own beat with these samples?  or even
 stickier, if i take someone elses drum beat, recycle
 it, extract individual hits, fuck wtith them in 
 sound forge, dsps filters etc, then load this kit
 into my sampler to make new beats with? eh? is there
 beef with this application of the sampler?  
 
 sorry if this is convoluted, overdone, dead horse,
 etc.  >>