Re: (idm) Fwd: (DARKSTEP) get your mp3s off of geocities asap!!! (fwd)

From Darren Keast
Sent Thu, Jul 1st 1999, 06:39

Interesting how fast Yahoo has backed down:
http://www.wired.com/news/news/politics/story/20518.html

they've just changed the contract after an outcry from users.

darren

xxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx wrote:

> I thought I would pass this along to all of you if by chance you have any of
> the following on geocities/yahoo
> In a message dated 7/1/99 3:28:44 AM, xxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx writes:
>
> <<someone sent me the following info,
>
> ultra bad news regarding copyrights and content on
> geocities. bassically anything up there, like mp3s for
> example, become copyrighted property of geocities/yahoo.
>
> take down your mp3s on geocities asap!!!
>
> Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 13:20:50 -0700 Subject: Have you seen
> this? Status: U
>
> I went to yahoo and confirm this, it's hard to swallow. It
> specificaly deals with Yahoo/Geocities's new contract. Take
> a look at Yahoo's "terms
>
> and services" link. http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ One
> more thing to worry about if you haved anykind of
> intellectual property on yahoo, and rest assured the rest of
> them will follow suit.
>
> Begins Here:
>
> 8. CONTENT SUBMITTED TO YAHOO
>  By submitting Content to
> any Yahoo property, you automatically grant, or
>
> warrant that the owner of such Content has expressly
> granted, Yahoo the
>  royalty-free, perpetual, irrevocable,
> non-exclusive and fully sublicensable right and license to
> use, reproduce, modify, adapt, publish, translate, create
> derivative works from, distribute, perform and display such
> Content (in whole or part) worldwide and/or to incorporate
> it in other works in any form, media, or technology now
> known or later developed. You acknowledge
>
> that Yahoo does not pre-screen Content, but that Yahoo and
> its designees
>
> shall have the right (but not the obligation) in their sole
> discretion to refuse, edit, move or remove any Content that
> is publicly available via the Service. Without limiting the
> foregoing, Yahoo and its designees shall have the right to
> remove any Content that violates the TOS or is otherwise
> objectionable. You agree that you must evaluate, and bear
> all risks associated with, the use of any Content, including
> any reliance on the accuracy, completeness, or usefulness of
> such Content. In this regard, you acknowledge that you may
> not rely on any Content created by Yahoo or
>
> submitted to Yahoo, including without limitation information
> in Yahoo!
>  Message Boards, Yahoo! Clubs, and in all other
> parts of the Service.
>
> (This is a direct quote from the Terms of Service page which
> you can find at: Yahoo! Terms of Service)
>
> In short, any content you have on GeoCities or any other of
> Yahoo's
>  properties is theirs to use, ROYALTY-FREE,
> forever. Any images that you've
>  made, any of your own
> copyrighted material you've made available, any
>  pictures
> you've published, etc. belongs to them and they can do
> whatever
>
> they want with it, forever, in any medium "or technology now
> known or later developed."
>
> I bet you weren't aware that any work you've produced and
> shown to others via your GeoCities site now "belongs" to you
> AND Yahoo. Further, if you read closely you see that they
> also gave themselves the "fully sublicensable right and
> license to use" so they can take your property, sell it to
> others(giving you nothing), or even license it to your
> competitor AND NOT PAY YOU A DIME!
>
> What's worse, you can't even take your content off of
> GeoCities WITHOUT AGREEING TO THESE TERMS! If you're there
> already, they've got your material now, lock, stock and
> barrel! It is time to show these corporate clowns that there
> is a large, diverse
>
> internet outside of their "properties" and they can shove
> their various services into whichever oriface they may fit,
> now or in the future! Stop using Yahoo. Boycott them, and
> all of their properties. This includes Yahoo.com,
> GeoCities.com and Broadcast.com. Don't buy products from
> merchants at shopping.Yahoo.com and let them know why!
>
> Let Yahoo know that you won't tolerate this! Email
> xxxxxxxxx@xxxxx-xxx.xxx and demand that they let you remove
> your content AND demand that they remove it from their
> databases AND demand that they won't use it without
>
> your express consent.
>
> Move your site to one of GeoCities' competitors (see list at
> left).
>
> Link to this page from your site (your new site, if you're
> moving from
>  GeoCities) and let your visitors know that
> this issue is important to you as a webmaster, even if you
> don't use GeoCities yourself!
>
> If you're a user and you use a site which is located at
> GeoCities, let the
>  owner of that site know that he or
> she has just signed over his or her entire work to these
> goons and they should leave the service at once!
>
> If you are a graphics professional, design logos which don't
> infringe on
>
> Yahoo's copyrights but will give viewers the message that
> they are under
>
> boycott (think of the ribbon campaign to defeat the CDA last
> year).>
>
> If you are a reporter, or know one, or know how to get in
> touch with one, grab their ear and let them know this is
> going on.>>
>
>   ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: (DARKSTEP) get your mp3s off of geocities asap!!! (fwd)
> Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 23:39:17 -0400 (EDT)
> From: S K I N N E R <xxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx>
> To: Gabber List <xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
> CC: DarkStep Mailing List <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
>
> someone sent me the following info,
>
> ultra bad news regarding copyrights and content on
> geocities. bassically anything up there, like mp3s for
> example, become copyrighted property of geocities/yahoo.
>
> take down your mp3s on geocities asap!!!
>
> Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 13:20:50 -0700 Subject: Have you seen
> this? Status: U
>
> I went to yahoo and confirm this, it's hard to swallow. It
> specificaly deals with Yahoo/Geocities's new contract. Take
> a look at Yahoo's "terms
>
> and services" link. http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ One
> more thing to worry about if you haved anykind of
> intellectual property on yahoo, and rest assured the rest of
> them will follow suit.
>
> Begins Here:
>
> 8. CONTENT SUBMITTED TO YAHOO<BR> By submitting Content to
> any Yahoo property, you automatically grant, or
>
> warrant that the owner of such Content has expressly
> granted, Yahoo the<BR> royalty-free, perpetual, irrevocable,
> non-exclusive and fully sublicensable right and license to
> use, reproduce, modify, adapt, publish, translate, create
> derivative works from, distribute, perform and display such
> Content (in whole or part) worldwide and/or to incorporate
> it in other works in any form, media, or technology now
> known or later developed. You acknowledge
>
> that Yahoo does not pre-screen Content, but that Yahoo and
> its designees
>
> shall have the right (but not the obligation) in their sole
> discretion to refuse, edit, move or remove any Content that
> is publicly available via the Service. Without limiting the
> foregoing, Yahoo and its designees shall have the right to
> remove any Content that violates the TOS or is otherwise
> objectionable. You agree that you must evaluate, and bear
> all risks associated with, the use of any Content, including
> any reliance on the accuracy, completeness, or usefulness of
> such Content. In this regard, you acknowledge that you may
> not rely on any Content created by Yahoo or<BR>
>
> submitted to Yahoo, including without limitation information
> in Yahoo!<BR> Message Boards, Yahoo! Clubs, and in all other
> parts of the Service.<BR>
>
> (This is a direct quote from the Terms of Service page which
> you can find at: Yahoo! Terms of Service)
>
> In short, any content you have on GeoCities or any other of
> Yahoo's<BR> properties is theirs to use, ROYALTY-FREE,
> forever. Any images that you've<BR> made, any of your own
> copyrighted material you've made available, any<BR> pictures
> you've published, etc. belongs to them and they can do
> whatever
>
> they want with it, forever, in any medium "or technology now
> known or later developed."
>
> I bet you weren't aware that any work you've produced and
> shown to others via your GeoCities site now "belongs" to you
> AND Yahoo. Further, if you read closely you see that they
> also gave themselves the "fully sublicensable right and
> license to use" so they can take your property, sell it to
> others(giving you nothing), or even license it to your
> competitor AND NOT PAY YOU A DIME!
>
> What's worse, you can't even take your content off of
> GeoCities WITHOUT AGREEING TO THESE TERMS! If you're there
> already, they've got your material now, lock, stock and
> barrel! It is time to show these corporate clowns that there
> is a large, diverse
>
> internet outside of their "properties" and they can shove
> their various services into whichever oriface they may fit,
> now or in the future! Stop using Yahoo. Boycott them, and
> all of their properties. This includes Yahoo.com,
> GeoCities.com and Broadcast.com. Don't buy products from
> merchants at shopping.Yahoo.com and let them know why!
>
> Let Yahoo know that you won't tolerate this! Email
> xxxxxxxxx@xxxxx-xxx.xxx and demand that they let you remove
> your content AND demand that they remove it from their
> databases AND demand that they won't use it without
>
> your express consent.
>
> Move your site to one of GeoCities' competitors (see list at
> left).
>
> Link to this page from your site (your new site, if you're
> moving from<BR> GeoCities) and let your visitors know that
> this issue is important to you as a webmaster, even if you
> don't use GeoCities yourself!<BR>
>
> If you're a user and you use a site which is located at
> GeoCities, let the<BR> owner of that site know that he or
> she has just signed over his or her entire work to these
> goons and they should leave the service at once!
>
> If you are a graphics professional, design logos which don't
> infringe on
>
> Yahoo's copyrights but will give viewers the message that
> they are under
>
> boycott (think of the ribbon campaign to defeat the CDA last
> year).>
>
> If you are a reporter, or know one, or know how to get in
> touch with one, grab their ear and let them know this is
> going on.

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::::: Darren Keast
::::: Editor
::::: Skinny Intertainment Network
::::: http://www.skinny.com/