Re: (idm) listening to music...

From Matthew Korfhage
Sent Mon, Jun 28th 1999, 20:45

> In a message dated 6/26/99 2:33:08 PM Mountain Daylight Time, 
> xxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx writes:
> 
> I find it assinine to clump music and lyrics together into one catagory and 
> even worse, to call the entire catagory music. Music is music, lyrics are 
> words.. two EXTREMELY different forms of communication. Music convey's 
> emotions, words convey definitions in the listeners mind.. 

I've let this thread go by for a while, perhaps to my credit I dunno, but
I feel like I have to respond here.  The category of "pure" music, meaning
instrumental music, is a myth.  Both lyrical and instrumental music
express emotion, and both convey meaning.  Lyrics are not merely bad
poetry set to music, each constituent being independent.  Even nonverbal
music sets loose or creates associations which have relevance outside of
the individual song, and outside of music as a whole, whether it be
something as banal(but hot damn entertaining) as spy movies of the 1960's
or something as highflown as whatever romantic pretensions you might have
for yourself.  When words are added, the meaning and emotion elicited
often become more fixed, since words are analyzable into other words and
hence definitions, but the overall meaning is also made more complex.
Those who, unfortunately, can't appreciate instrumental music have merely
channeled off a possible source of meaning.  The human voice is an easy
thing to latch onto, and is the most common conveyer of emotion as far as
our experience goes (unless you happen to be a reclusive tech junkie who
interacts only with BleepBloop or relateds).  Lyrics, by the same token,
can't be separated out from "musical aspects"-- most good lyrics make
terrible poems, and most good poems make wretched lyrics.  One of the
better lyricists in our time was Chuck Berry, and I can promise he won't
get anthologized in City Lights.  I'll add in Modest Mouse for the hell of
it, especially because of the aural fixations evident on the first album.  

Generally, I'd like to say that adding lyrics expands the possibilities
for music, though it obviously isn't always a good thing-- finding a good
singer is much more difficult than finding a good electronic artist or a
good guitar player, as vocals are much more difficult to innovate without
appearing contrived.  Finding a new way to speak is a helluva lot harder
than finding a new way to play-- playing doesn't have to appear natural.
Plus, (ohh ohh IDM content) adding song to compositions that are aurally
"busy", such as most IDM, is an extremely touchy proposition which usually
tends toward mantra-like floating (MBV, Bjork remixes), speaksing (Tricky,
Cap'n Beefheart), vocal drumming (some jazz), or calculated weirdness
(Thinking Fellers Union).  Or just plain yelling (most metal).
   
Just some thoughts, hopefully close enough to topic, when obviously not
on, not to piss everybody off.

M.



Verbal 
> communication is a flawed form of commication, and music is not. My favorite 
> is when people refuse to listen to music that does not have words, I love 
> those people and would like to give them flowers.
> 
> -=Aaron
>