Re: [AH] Behringer - Vocoder and String Ensemble VC340

From John Emond
Sent Tue, Jan 9th 2018, 15:00

Hi Tony,

Thanks for sharing your knowledge. Do you know more about the RS202? I recal=
l these sounding quite good and being very popular at one time.=20

Also, how about the Opus3? The chorus seems more subtle than the PolySix.

Cheers,

John

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> On Jan 9, 2018, at 5:38 AM, Oakley Sound <xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrot=
e:
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> For Kenny :-)
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> In my mind there are two basic string ensemble topologies, which I simply s=
um up as the Solina and the Roland.
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> The Solina method uses three sound sources all modulated with a common LFO=
 (or LFOs) but with each sound source frequency modulated +/-120 degrees out=
 of phase with the other. It's almost always mono, but I think the later Sol=
inas were designed for stereo output. The three sound sources are typically f=
ed with a simple sawtooth from the keyboard electronics and then each sound s=
ource is created with its own BBD and it associating clock driver. Examples;=
 ARP Solina, Korg Polysix ensemble mode, Yamaha SK20 et al. However, I think=
 the best sounding example of this genre is the Logan String Melody II.
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> The Roland method uses four sound sources each one modulated by either one=
 LFO or a combination of two LFOs; one low frequency triangle wave, and anot=
her faster sine wave. Roland used four delay lines with a pair for each side=
 of the stereo channel. Examples: VP-330, RS-09, RS-505. Note their two earl=
ier stringers, RS-101 & RS-202, used different systems.
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> The Korg Lambda and PE2000 use a variation on the Solina method, but unlik=
e the Solina and Korg's own Polysix, they use three sets of high frequency V=
COs (and the usual organ divide down technology) with each chain modulated w=
ith two LFOs with the usual 120 degrees phase shift between them. This works=
 out to be the most complex of all but generates the least amount of unwante=
d hiss and noise. Unfortunately, the Lambda's VCOs were placed so close to e=
ach other on the circuit board they lock together and the rich ensemble effe=
ct can only be heard if you use a large amount of detune or introduce vibrat=
o.
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> The later Roland method tends to produce thinner sounding strings but they=
 do seem to sound better, perhaps more realistic, to my ears at least, when p=
laying monophonic lines.
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> Roland did also use a single LFO in one case, the RS-101, which was then s=
ent to a divider chain to produce half, quarter and an eighth frequencies to=
 drive each of the four BBD lines. It has a mono output but sounds closer to=
 the Solina rather than the later Rolands.
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> The ARP Omni falls into its own category I think. This is simply three sep=
arate BBD lines each modulated with its own LFO. The actual ensemble circuit=
 board module allows for the dry signal to be mixed in with the effected sig=
nal but this has been left unused in all the production versions I have seen=
.
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> There are also some very effective string machines that use just two BBDs w=
ith the Elka Rhapsody surely being the finest example.
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> Then, of course, there is the daddy of them all, the Freeman. It's probabl=
y closer to the Korg Lambda with it's three (or two) divide down chains. As t=
o what modulates them I have no idea. But from the pictures online of the in=
sides of the two channel version it seems to suggest that they have no top o=
ctave generator (TOG) but individual high frequency VCOs like the PS3100 and=
 other older organs. That should make it sound marvellous.
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> Tony