(idm) re: amen break...or sampling vs synthesis

From David Hodgson
Sent Wed, Jun 9th 1999, 20:18

you can extend this argument quite easily to invalidate most music if you
feel like it ... don't you find it lazy that yr still using the traditional
even tempered diatonic scale ... or any kind of synthesizer .. yr just using
other peoples hard work rather than inventing everything from scratch

what is wrong with doing something the easy way ... if the end result was
going to be identical i think i'd always take the easy path

went to see Aphrodite last night .. he tore the place up .. made a great
change from all the techstep stuff i've been hearing out recently .. or
whatever all that stuff is called these days. And the relevance to this
discussion ... samples all the way and it sounds great



        Date: Wed, 09 Jun 1999 12:08:34 -0400
        From: Joshua Reuven <xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx>
        Subject: (idm) re: amen break...or sampling vs synthesis

        i'm sure this is going to create some friction...but here goes
        anyways...

        i've noticed all this discussion regarding the sampling of this
certain
        break...people are complaining about the over abuse of this specific
        break...

        this leads to a fairly obivious question...

        why sample someone else's break? why not do it yourself or
synthesize
        it? hrvatski was commenting that he has a live drummer record
tracks,
        which is excellent...

        as someone who creates music myself...i hate sampling...i feel no
sense
        of accomplishment by stealing someone elses beat or sound and
inserting
        it into my own work. i even have problems with taking someone else's
        sound and mutilating it beyond recognition...it's still not my
sound...

        and i've noticed that some of the best (imho) music being created
today
        has a similiar approach...panasonic, ryoji ikeda, oval, etc...

        of course one can argue that they sample, which they do, however
it's a
        different case...oval is sampling a cd skipping...he's not sampling
the
        music or a piano melody, or a drum line...panasonic uses a sampler
only
        to help in live situations...add an extra pair of hands...

        then there's stock, hausen and walkman...and that's a different case
        altogether...

        i guess what it comes down i'm expressing my dislike for using other
        peoples  breaks and sounds because you don't know how to get that
sound,
        or because it's the easiest way of achieving that sound...