From Spiral of Evolution Sent Fri, Sep 17th 1999, 22:37
I have to agree with this point of view. I spin a lot or underground, deep, morning house that I feel is just as every bit intelligent as Autechre or B-12. Just depends on how you're listening to it. Derek ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- All times being relative; what time does Munich arrive at this train? --Nietzche On Fri, 17 Sep 1999 17:25:25 -0400 Chris Fahey <xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> writes: >I've heard lots of very sophisticated dance music that probably would >= >repel >most of the people on this list, music which rarely makes it out of >the >clubs. I'm talking about house music with divas. In many ways lots of >= >this >IDM stuff is comparatively much more commercial than some of the best, >= >most >interesting underground house.=20 > >Yes, there's a high-profile brand of house which is unoriginal, = >retarded, >and commercial, but just cuz the "House Explosion vol 9" compilation = >CD's >they sell at tower records are bad doesn't mean that there isn't house >= >out >there that would blow your socks off and make Global Goon look like an >amateur tinkerer (not hard). > >Some Basic Channel or Carl Craig crosses into what I'm talking about = >(in >terms of being, at heart, house music), but is that as far towards = >house >this list will venture. Why? > >It's a monstrous error to say that house/techno/disco/dance club music >= >is >somehow less intelligently created or heard than IDM, and I often = >suspect >that the difference boils down to class/race/sexual preference. One = >could >argue pretty convincingly that IDM =3D dance music for straight white >= >middle >class guys who can't dance. There's an entire world of dance music out >= >there >which is both booty shaking and very experimental in nature, but it's >= >almost >never discussed on the IDM list. It's sad - In fact, I have to rely on >= >my >club-DJ friends to even expose me to this stuff.=20 > >Not that I'm not guilty too - in order to become an aficianado of IDM, >= >all >you need is some money and an email account, but to find out about >interesting underground house you have to be pretty hardcore about >your >nightlife habits and probably have to be a professional DJ. If you = >think >about it, IDM is in a way dance music's latest stab at bringing = >underground >electronic dance music out of the exclusive control of professional >DJs = >and >into our homes and offices, whereas underground house is still an = >arcane >knowledge to which access is extremely difficult. IDM fans buy records >= >and >CDs, while house fans go to clubs, listen, and dance. > >Sometimes I think this list needs to be a little more house-broken, so >= >to >speak.=20 > > > >' - . _ . - ' ^ ' - . _ . - ' ^ ' - . _ . - > > c h r i s t =F8 p h e r f =AA h e y > >. _ . - ' ^ ' - . _ . - ' ^ ' - . _ . - ' ^ > xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx >2 1 2 - 6 3 4 - 6 9 5 0 x 2 5 8 > http://www.raremedium.com >- ' ^ ' - . _ . - ' ^ ' - . _ . - ' ^ ' - .=20 ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj.