Re: beatwife podcast

From Mauro
Sent Sat, Mar 24th 2018, 21:25

On Sat, Mar 24, 2018 at 4:22 PM, J L <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>
> Hi Mauro, my point was that he's not making fun of a certain group=E2=80=
=94yet you keep mentioning it because you're misinterpreting his words. You=
're being hypersensitive.
>
>
> I have no idea what you're talking about here. What does this mean?  "or =
you mean being a 14 y/o rebel who thinks that
> "sticking it to the man" implies being an awful person?"
>
>

nah, i'm good. you should re-read my previous email, what i've wrote
in between parentheses, more precisely.
what i was saying (in direct response to what Eric said about the
breakcore circuit, and i add: the deathgrind scene too.) is that i
find extremely silly the fact that people pick offensive / gimmicky
names in order to be edgier, unless you're a 14 y/o (figure speech, no
offense to the kids reading this thread) with even sillier ideas about
the world, and about being rebelious (in contrast to what autechre did
with that law). that was it. in any case i was critizicing the whole
naming-my-band-something-offensive-because-it-is-funny and not
'beatwife' directly.

*puts tin-foil hat on*
it's conspiracy time:
beatwife has a "cover" [0] or something of Britney Spears' "Baby one
more time", and if you take the time to read the lyrics, it's a bit
weird ("Hit me baby one more time / Oh baby, baby / The reason I
breathe is you / Boy you got me blinded") [1].
and in his cover, he twists the meaning of the word /hit/ ("hit me
acid one more time"), as in he might be talking about tripping on acid
or playing acid. So he might be aware of the _other_ meaning of
Britney's song. And possibly the controversy around his moniker.

[0] https://beatwife.bandcamp.com/track/acid-acid
[1] https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/news/the-real-me=
aning-of-britney-spears-classic-hit-me-baby-one-more-time-a6799116.html

and that's overthinking something.
(just kidding)

PS: Sorry for the offtopic again !

>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Mauro <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx>
> Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2018 3:02 PM
> Cc: xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx
> Subject: Re: beatwife podcast
>
> hi there! (another lurker here)
>
> i see your point, but at the same time: "Much of life is about
> struggle, and overcoming obstacles." such as stop making fun (_not
> saying the artist is doing it_) of violence towards a certain group of
> people, right? or you mean being a 14 y/o rebel who thinks that
> "sticking it to the man" implies being an awful person? either way,
> this discussion belongs to another mailing list i guess.
>
> and yeah, the music is really good. (back to the topic of this list heh)
>
> On Sat, Mar 24, 2018 at 3:24 PM, J L <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> >
> > Hi everyone, long time lurker.
> >
> >
> > I think it seems obvious that his pseudonym has nothing to do with beat=
ing anyone up.
> >
> >
> > It's a slippery slope for the arts. If artists keep catering to fragile=
 safe spaces, and politically mandated speech and correctness, they will ev=
entually be shut down for expressing opinions or even emotions that may dif=
fer from establishment ones. Perhaps music & percussion that's too aggressi=
ve sounding, fast, or doesn't conform to establishment ideology will be cen=
sored, & or shut down?
> >
> > As an example, RDJ has expressed differing opinions from establishment =
ones in various interviews. Also there was John Major's criminal justice bi=
ll which attempted to outlaw repetitive beats.
> >
> >
> > "This artist name, or music makes me feel uncomfortable so lets ban it.=
" Enough with the outrage. Life isn't always about being comfortable. Much =
of life is about struggle, and overcoming obstacles.
> >
> >
> > Never heard of the guy, but this is a cool album btw. Definitely gonna =
pick this up. Thanks for the info Clint!
> >
> >
> >
> > https://beatwife.bandcamp.com/
> Beatwife
> beatwife.bandcamp.com
> Beatwife Earl R=C3=B6gnvald (Wife Trax), released 12 July 2017 1. Badboy =
Fl=C3=B6w 2. Face Daddy 3. Fat B=C3=B6wler 4. Child Of Pappa 5. Planker=C3=
=B6n 6. Acid Acid 7. Export Grabber 8.
>
>
> >
> > Beatwife
> > beatwife.bandcamp.com
> > Beatwife Earl R=C3=B6gnvald (Wife Trax), released 12 July 2017 1. Badbo=
y Fl=C3=B6w 2. Face Daddy 3. Fat B=C3=B6wler 4. Child Of Pappa 5. Planker=
=C3=B6n 6. Acid Acid 7. Export Grabber 8.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Eric Fairbanks <xxxx.x.xxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx>
> > Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2018 12:11 PM
> > To: Mauro
> > Cc: IDM
> > Subject: Re: beatwife podcast
> >
> > Aha hey there Mauro! And yeah, I don't mean to be dismissive. It's not =
something I would choose to do.
> >
> > There's another artist out there who goes by something like "stage 4 ca=
ncer" or something that seems a bit insensitive as well, though not in quit=
e the same way.
> >
> > I get that art doesn't need all it's edges sanded off, but I'd think if=
 you're going to have a name like that, it at least deserves some kind of o=
bvious explanation. Unless (perhaps even if) it's meant to make a statement=
 because you're donating album proceeds to domestic-violence-related groups=
 or something it at best comes off as tasteless and at worst as making ligh=
t of something awful.
> >
> > I think some artists, especially those who make more inaccessible, nois=
y, horror-driven music might see it as bringing attention to ugly things wi=
th the sort of inherent disclaimer that they're not advocating them, but I =
doubt that comes through to the casual listener or someone intimately famil=
iar with the matter. Perhaps I'm overthinking it, but it's not really an ex=
cuse anyway as it doesn't change how it impacts others.
> >
> > On Sat, Mar 24, 2018, 11:45 AM Mauro <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> >
> > "Ah yeah, those are beaten up women but it's ok, it always have been
> > this way. you know, boys will be boys, nothing serious." :)
> >
> > PS: hey eric!
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Mar 24, 2018 at 12:15 PM, Eric Fairbanks
> > <xxxx.x.xxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> > >
> > > Names like that are pretty common in the breakcore circuit. They tend=
 toward deliberately offensive/horrifying/inflammatory. Y'all ever see any =
of VSnare's album artwork or track names?
> > >
> > > Guess it depends on your feelings on being upsetting in (presumably) =
a tongue-in-cheek way.
> > >
> > > I can see it being a turnoff, but I also assume that Aaron Funk isn't=
 actually advocating befriending child killers.
> > >
> > > Music is art blah blah censorship yadda yadda.
> > >
> > > I haven't listened to much beatwife so idk.
> > >
> > > On Sat, Mar 24, 2018, 9:39 AM Laurent Knauth <xxxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxxxx.xx=
m> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Guys, marketing has its reasons that the reason ignores.
> > >>
> > >> On Sat, Mar 24, 2018 at 12:18 PM, nat hawks <xxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> wro=
te:
> > >>>
> > >>> These explanations all make sense, but they don't excuse the name, =
at all.  It's a disgusting name.  If we all agree, we should collectively t=
ell him?
> > >>>
> > >>> Sent from my iPhone
> > >>>
> > >>> On Mar 24, 2018, at 5:26 AM, Laurent Knauth <xxxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxxxx.x=
om> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> As for me, i assumed it was some tribute to the =C2=AB Beat that bi=
tch with a bat =C2=BB track, or some other reference everybody here would g=
et except me !
> > >>>
> > >>> If not , his Max4Live patches names suggest that he has audio under=
 his skin, i mean his =C2=AB wife =C2=BB gets literally sequenced, broken, =
convolved, twiddled, rushed, effected, doctored and... eventually =C2=AB tr=
anz =C2=BB.
> > >>>
> > >>> On Sat, Mar 24, 2018 at 5:27 AM, Clint Anderson <xxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> =
wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> i guess i assumed that it was ironic in the sense that maybe he is=
 the wife and he makes beats
> > >>>> i dunno
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Clint Anderson
> > >>>> Systems Engineer
> > >>>> "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On Fri, Mar 23, 2018 at 11:24 PM, Baptiste Bacot <xxxxxxxx.xxxxx@x=
mail.com> wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> I suggest =C2=AB RapeK!dz =C2=BB for the next moniker, it=E2=80=
=99s way more appropriate.
> > >>>>> Unfortunately, the mix and the production seem good, but I dont w=
ant to spend much time listening to this guy=E2=80=99s music, because of th=
at name.
> > >>>>> The list seems terribly silent on that matter. What do you guys a=
nd girls think about this =C2=AB artist name =C2=BB? I just want to hear fr=
om you : do you find the alias legitimate, and if not, why?
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Best,
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> BB
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Le 23 mars 2018 =C3=A0 15:16, nat hawks <xxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> a =
=C3=A9crit :
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> "beat wife"?!
> > >>>>> Really?
> > >>>>> Dude needs to change his name now.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> ________________________________
> > >>>>> From: Clint Anderson <xxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx>
> > >>>>> Sent: Friday, March 23, 2018 9:06 AM
> > >>>>> To: IDM
> > >>>>> Subject: beatwife podcast
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> http://www.orbmag.com/music/orb-podcast-002-beatwife/
> > >>>>> Orb Podcast 002: Beatwife - Orb Mag
> > >>>>> www.orbmag.com
> > >>>>> Since his debut EP, Ritilin, in 2008, Scottish born, Los Angeles-=
based producer, Richard Wilson, has been creating music under his alias Bea=
twife. His approach towards acid, IDM, and experimental music, combined wit=
h his knowledge of audio technology, including his signature software and m=
odified equipment, has resulted in the creation of Beatwife=E2=80=99s disti=
nctive sound. Beatwife released his =E2=80=A6
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Clint Anderson
> > >>>>> Systems Engineer
> > >>>>> "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>