Re: [AH] Which overdrive pedal for TB-303?

From Eric Wood
Sent Wed, Mar 20th 2019, 03:07

I used a big muff on a really hard acidy track like 15 years ago sending bot=
h a 909 and 202 through it and I thought it sounded kick ass. There may have=
 been another EH pedal on it as well though like a delay or some such thing,=
 I can=E2=80=99t remember. Anyway, I just bought another one to mess around w=
ith; now I have three, the other two needing repair. I probably wouldn=E2=80=
=99t use it for clean sounding stuff but I think it=E2=80=99s a beast for mo=
re aggressive noise. I just ordered a Boss Rod-10 per Tony=E2=80=99s? Sugges=
tion and am exited to give that a go. I thought Hardfloor used a Boss Metal Z=
one? Don=E2=80=99t know why I think that though; I did see their setup once m=
any years ago in Chicago; perhaps they had one for that, or I could be makin=
g that up.
Eric

> On Mar 19, 2019, at 8:37 PM, David Bivins <xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
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> I had a Sovtek Big Muff Pi and ended up selling it because I didn't
> like it sounded with any of my synths. But I hadn't tried Tomislav's
> approach, which is really smart. I didn't like the ProCo Rat, either.
> I thought they were both too ugly sounding. I'd probably like them
> more, now.
> I like the Boss HM-2 because it can give a big, round boost, like a
> compressor; it has EQ to dial the bass in and keep it in; and it
> wildly accentuates the resonant frequency of the 303, making it sound
> like a nightmare beast on the attack. You can be a little subtle with
> it, but it works best "dimed" - everything up to 10. I always liked
> the sound on the Cluster label (the UK label, not the German band,
> which I like, too), e.g. D.A.V.E. the Drummer and Chris Liberator, and
> I felt the HM-2 got me that powerful sound. I thought it sounded a bit
> like Hardfloor, too, but I think they actually used a Rat.
> No google was used in the making of this post, so I might have my facts wr=
ong :)
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>> On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 9:13 PM Eric Wood <xxxx.xxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
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>> I was wondering if anyone was using the Big Muff
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>> On Mar 19, 2019, at 6:51 PM, Tomislav Babic <xxxxxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> wr=
ote:
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>> yes splitting the signal,  and mixing little bit of dry under the overdri=
ven component.
>> even better if you lowpass the dry with  gentle slope like 12 or 6dB/oct s=
tarting as low as 150 Hz , plus minus.
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>> i use DI box for split; thru goes to the pedal (MXR Dist+ custom shop, Ir=
on Ether Oxide or one of my Big Muffs)
>> and xlr is fed to a mic pre input.  lowpass i do in daw.
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>> that said, i find thi necessary once in a blue moon - it depends on the r=
ole of 303 or similar synth will have in
>> the arrangement.  for low bass i dont like drive, or resonance. however f=
or that hardcore "mid bass" range
>> where it slaps you silly,   sometimes you want that  overdriven bass ligh=
t sound.  specially if another 303,
>> or sh2 or something is doing the low bass beneath.  so they each have bre=
athing space.
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>> its been a while since i sold my 303 but i still use the same wet/dry teh=
nique with sh2, sh101 and sys100.
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>> PS on a related note, i have had a RE303 built recently, and i am sorry t=
o admit it sounds nothing like the 303.
>> we have done direct a/b and  its rather dissapointing.   i am pissed off f=
or time and energy i have spent into
>> this wild goose chase.
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>>> On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 11:13 PM Paco deBongo <xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> wr=
ote:
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>>> BTW--just from casual observation--I'm pretty sure that the devilfish wi=
ll lose the bottom end too w/ its built in overdrive--It is a nice overdrive=
, but none that I have encounter are perfect--I don't think there's anyway a=
round losing the bottom--shy of splitting the signal and mixing it wet/dry--=
or having two acid boxes...Maybe run overdrive thru just the mixer and then c=
ompress the signal back down?
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>>> I was wondering if a bass overdrive might be the ticket?
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>>> Any one here design an overdrive circuit?  How does frequency response c=
ome into play?  Is it even amplitude boost at all frequencies?
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>>>> On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 3:35 PM Computer Controlled <xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx>=
 wrote:
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>>>> That was modeled off the Devilfish OD.
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>>>> I thought this was a Gearslutz thread at first.
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>>>>> On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 9:02 AM negativesaucer <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.x=
om> wrote:
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>>>>> whatever they modeled for the tb-03 dist.
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>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 19, 2019, 9:31 AM Boniforti Flavio <xxxxxxxxx.x@xxxxx.xxx=
> wrote:
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>>>>>> Hi Andy.
>>>>>> I was in fact "complaining" about losing volume with my Dunlop MXR M1=
04 pedal (other thread). So which pedal maintains the levels the same as the=
y are when bypassed?
>>>>>> F.
>>>>>> https://soundcloud.com/bonnyfused
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>>>>>>> Am Di., 19. M=C3=A4rz 2019 um 14:27 Uhr schrieb Andrew Simper <andy@=
cytomic.com>:
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>>>>>>> Out of all the Tube Screamer pedals I recommend the TS9-DX since it'=
s the most versatile in a studio situation, but the levels vary greatly when=
 switching modes. For live use I would go the Boss OS-2 as you get to switch=
 between overdrive and distortion tones and the levels remain pretty constan=
t with the blend.
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>>>>>>> Andy
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>>>>>>>> On Tue, 19 Mar 2019 at 18:41, Boniforti Flavio <xxxxxxxxx.x@xxxxx.x=
om> wrote:
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>>>>>>>> Hi folks.
>>>>>>>> While I'm waiting for the new TS-303, I started looking around for a=
n overdrive pedal for my TS-303.
>>>>>>>> I've read that the Ibanez TS-808 might be the best... and I found t=
his link:
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>>>>>>>> https://www.proaudioland.com/news/differences-between-the-ibanez-ts=
808-ts9-and-ts9dx/
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>>>>>>>> So, which one would you recommend? Not only Ibanez, but in general.=
..
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>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>> F.
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>>>> --
>>>> Sent from The Off World Colonies.
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>>> Jesse
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>> --
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>> Tomislav Babic
>> www.babic.com - studio, mp3, info
>> xxxxxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxx.xxx
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