Re: [AH] Capturing / Digitizing Video Synthesizers (PAL/NTSC)

From mssngr
Sent Tue, Jun 18th 2019, 01:58

I don't think there's anything available that doesn't at least compress 
to MPEG.

On 6/17/2019 7:15 PM, Alexander Smith wrote:
> Both look great- but does anything record in a format other than h264? Be great to have something uncompressed.
>
>> On 18 Jun 2019, at 11:05, David Messenger <xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>>
>> I think the Hauppage stuff should work:
>>
>> https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/925432-REG/hauppauge_1512_hd_pvr_2_video.html
>>
>> D/
>>
>>> On 6/17/2019 6:50 PM, Kenny Balys wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Ben,
>>>
>>> I had plenty of feedback offline.
>>>
>>> Basically, most of the cheapo converters available now take both
>>> PAL and NTSC down to 640x480 which is rubbish.
>>>
>>> All of the BlackMagic boxes require a very sync'd and stable video
>>> feed so useless for most people, wonderful for a few. You need
>>> something called a "Time Base Corrector" rack to generate the
>>> stable video feed. This, in my mind, is rather silly. We are living
>>> in the future now and a decent piece of code should be able to
>>> handle what ever crufty video is thrown at their stuff. But no.
>>>
>>> If you are using NTSC you can use a Sony Digital-8 camera as a video
>>> input/digitizer and then output via FireWire to the 2003 iMac that
>>> just everyone has kicking around.
>>>
>>> For PAL video, none of the Euro released cameras will act as a video
>>> input. This was for copyright reasons if I understand correctly.
>>> The excitement and frenzy around the very few PAL Digital-8 recorder
>>> decks that come up for sale fully illustrates this.
>>>
>>> A really fine solution suggested to me was a dedicated solid state
>>> video recorder box from Japan: (thanks to Suit&Tie)
>>>
>>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/HDMI-Video-Game-Capture-Recorder-1080p-60fps-Live-Streaming-Device-TMREC-FHD-F-S/202704704583
>>>
>>> This seemed a little rich for me so I ordered an El-Cheapo clone
>>> from China: (not confirmed to work yet)
>>>
>>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/VHS-Camcorder-Hi8-Tape-Converter-Audio-Video-Capture-8G-MP3-Player-AV-Recorder/202678960641?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649
>>>
>>> It claims to support full resolution NTSC and PAL. I guess I will see.
>>> If not, then I will have to step and get the Japanese unit.
>>>
>>> In the event that this thing works, then I will have a little solid state
>>> recorder that I can hang off my modular rack.
>>>
>>> Fingers crossed, will report back here if its good.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 18.06.19 24:19 , Ben Bridges wrote:
>>>> I am also keen on some kind of converter to get analogue video into my computer
>>>> from the RCA out on my VHS or video sytnths.
>>>>
>>>> I bought a USB capture device under the name EasyCap but it didn't work at all.
>>>> If there is a solution available I would like to know.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>>
>>>> Ben
>>>>
>>>>> On 15/6/2019 10:37 AM, Kenny Balys wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> What are you using to capture PAL video synth sessions?
>>>>>
>>>>> Many of us here are now using Eurorack and other format video synthesizers.
>>>>>
>>>>> I would like to see how people are capturing this video.
>>>>>
>>>>> Currently I have two different systems. One is PAL video. The other NTSC.
>>>>>
>>>>> For NTSC, capturing is easy. I have a Sony Mini-DV camera that can act
>>>>> as a capture / digitizer. This then can be sent to a computer with
>>>>> a FireWire link.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sadly, because of European copyright rules, all DV cameras in Europe have
>>>>> the video capture / digitize function disabled. So no such solution for PAL.
>>>>>
>>>>> I purchased a BlackMagic "Intensity Shuttle" to capture PAL video but
>>>>> it is utter rubbish. This device (and all BlackMagic devices I am told)
>>>>> will not capture anything but the most perfect and conditioned TBC'd
>>>>> video. Nowhere on the box does it mention this.
>>>>>
>>>>> The entire point of analogue video synthesis is to push the envelope and
>>>>> boundaries of video. This will never equal time base corrected video.
>>>>>
>>>>> So the BlackMagic Intensity Shuttle is a useless brick.
>>>>>
>>>>> If anyone on the list is capturing PAL video synth sessions, I would love
>>>>> to hear what you are using.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> PS: Hope this is not too OT.
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